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Message started by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:38am

Title: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 9:38am
Mal recognizes Bull S.'s corrupt Commo unions are destroying industry in Australia with their extortion and sabotage as revealed in CAPITAL LETTERS by the TURC and so he is tightening the vice jaws on them.

Brilliant tactics by Mal has seen Bull S. cornered by the SSM with the GAYs glowering at him because Bull S. could have given the GAYS their desecration of the Holy Institution of Marriage.

When the SSM postal vote returns a resounding NO the GAYS will move in on Bull S. armed with pointed sticks!!!!



To Hell with the workers, unions have to look after themselves first, with only 10% membership and falling.




Turnbull targets 'super union' mergers
Australian Associated Press  9:11AM August 11, 2017
   
Malcolm Turnbull will introduce new laws aimed at blocking the merger of a CFMEU-MUA super union.

After lobbying from the mining, oil and gas industries, the coalition will seek next week to apply a public-interest test for union mergers.

"I think there are very real concerns about these two unions," the prime minister told 3AW radio on Friday.

The Fair Work Commission would oversee the new test for amalgamations, weighing mergers based on a union's history of compliance with industrial law.

"Both of them (the CFMEU and MUA) have shown a long term disregard for the law; they've been essentially lawless," Mr Turnbull said.

"One of the reasons they feel they've been able to get away with it is because of their size, so why would you want two already lawless unions who are big to become even bigger?"

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/latest-news/govts-bid-to-block-super-union-merger/news-story/f3c6cefa9e71275113474845c0f2d847

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:18am
Only cowards hide behind pretend 'laws' that permit them and their mates to bully other people....

This'll be good.... work to regulations and up go the costs on all the bully-boy's building sites... dopey wop neo-fascists will learn one day... this is AUSTRALIA, myte - not your turd factory old country.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:21am
The grappler is grappling with the ungrappable.

Prime Minister Turnbull claimed the Opposition leader could have ended up in the clink for his actions as a union boss under the new anti union corruption rules.

How times have changed with Bull S. now running scared of the very angry GAYS over his SSM blunders.






Turnbull: Bill Shorten’s AWU union deals would have been criminal under new laws
Claire Bickers News Corp Australia Network AUGUST 10, 20171:21PM

MALCOLM Turnbull has been accused of “grubby” politics over claims Bill Shorten’s acts as a union boss would be criminal under new laws on ‘sweetheart deals’ between unions and employers.

The new laws to ban corrupting benefits between unions and employers passed the senate last night.

Prime Minister Turnbull claimed the Opposition leader could have been charged for his actions as a union boss under the new rules while hailing the laws as a win for workers and transparency this morning.
“The conduct of Mr Shorten, if it were repeated under these laws would attract criminal sanctions,” Mr Turnbull said.

RELATED: Unions pay deal under Shorten leaves workers worse off


Prime Minister Turnbull claimed the Opposition leader could have been charged for his actions as a union boss under the new rules. Picture: AAPSource:AAP

“If you take benefits from an employer of that kind ... undisclosed in the course of ... enterprise agreement negotiations, that is made unlawful.
“The vast majority of Australians would say ‘Why hasn’t that been the law for years?”

Shadow Treasurer Chris Bowen later slammed the Prime Minister’s comments as a “grubby and desperate attempt to divert attention from the government’s failing agenda”.
Mr Shorten was cleared of any wrongdoing in his time as the Australian Worker’s Union chief under the 2015 Heydon Royal Commission into trade union conduct.

But Employment Minister Michaelia Cash said today his conduct presiding over a deal with the owners of cleaning company Cleanevent would have been banned under the new laws.

The 2004 deal saw the AWU allow enterprise agreements where workers worse off by $10 per hour.

Senator Cash also took aim at a trip taken by Mr Shorten to Cuba on billionaire Richard Pratt’s jet while he was a union boss.


Employment Minister Michaelia Cash said Mr Shorten would ‘potentially’ be found a criminal and might have been jailed under the laws if they had been in place while he was a union boss. Picture: AAPSource:AAP

“One of the deals that is now banned under this legislation, and could potentially face time in jail, is of course a union official who gets onto an employer’s private jet, enjoys a holiday in Cuba while sipping Cristal champagne, but at the same time is negotiating an enterprise agreement with that employer,” she said.

“Yes, you’re right, it was Bill Shorten.

“Another corrupting benefit that is now banned under this legislation is an employer, Cleanevent, handing over to the AWU $75,000 to ensure that the union did not agitate for higher wages for the workers that is represented.”

Senator Cash said Mr Shorten would “potentially” be found a criminal and might have been jailed under the laws if they had been in place then.
Labor and senator Jaqcui Lambie voted against the legislation last night but it passed 32 votes to 27 with support from the rest of the crossbench senators.

http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/turnbull-bill-shortens-awu-union-deals-would-have-been-criminal-under-new-laws/news-story/a73dd1ef8b1e8868b1e3a917c8919f72

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:36am
The lying hypocrisy of Bull S. knows no limits - bit like Labor's vast cesspool of corruption!!!

Bull S. rips off workers penalty rates with out a care so long as the money comes into the union.

It is the Shorten policy.  Penalty rate cut with union donation in exchange - Good!   Penalty rate cut with no union donation - Bad!




Union’s deals cut workers’ penalties
Anthony Klan Journalist Sydney The Australian 12:00AM March 3, 2017


The analysis shines the light on large disparities in weekend pay rates enjoyed by non-unionised workers in smaller shops

Union-brokered enterprise bargaining agreements have seen weekend penalty rates for workers at many of the nation’s biggest fast food chains slashed by up to double the amount of the current controversial changes recommended by the Fair Work Commission.

Casual employees of KFC, Red Rooster, Domino’s and McDonald’s have all seen their weekend pay rates slump well below the ­legislated award, on the back of ­enterprise bargaining agreements brokered between their employers and the national retail union.

Under the latest EBA, brokered in 2010, casual employees of KFC saw their Sunday hourly pay rate set at $20.90 — despite the federal award at that time being $28.82.

Under the latest EBA for Domino’s, also struck in 2010, the Shop Distributive and Allied Employees Association (SDA) agreed to a Sunday pay rate of $20.68 for workers, also well below the $28.82 at the time.

The Fair Work Commission has announced plans to cut some weekend rates under the award, including reducing the amount casual fast food employees earn on Sundays from 1.75 times the “base rate” to 1.5 times.

That move has been vocally ­opposed by the federal opposition and unions.

However, analysis shows many workers are not only paid well below the current awards for weekend work because of deals struck by the union, but that those union-backed cuts were far worse than the ones flagged by the Fair Work Commission.

For example, while the award calls for fast food workers to be paid 1.75 times the base rate on Sundays, the KFC and Domino’s agreements slash that premium to just 1.27 times and 1.26 times ­respectively.



The analysis shines the light on large disparities in weekend pay rates enjoyed by non-unionised workers in smaller shops — who are currently paid 1.75 times the base rate, but the rate will drop to 1.5 times — compared to workers for many of the major chains who already are paid as little as 1.26 times base rates for Sunday work.

Employers can pay their workers less than the legislated award if they enter an enterprise bargaining agreement with their relevant union and the new rates decided upon are approved by Fair Work.

The legislation states any new wage rates decided upon must not leave the worker worse off “over all” than they would be under the award.

Critics of the system claim this clause is often not properly enforced, because unions and employers both come to the table with rates and simply ask the commission to rubber stamp the agreed-on rates.

The SDA defended its EBAs and said the union had “always retained the value of penalty rates in worker’s total take-home pay”.

“The practice of ‘rolling up’ penalty rates, that is, moving their value into a higher base rate of pay or improved conditions, has been a longstanding practice used by many unions since the 1980s and approved by the ACTU,” SDA ­national secretary Gerard Dwyer said yesterday.

“Enterprise bargaining in this manner has consistently delivered strong rights and working conditions as evidenced by the fact that Australia’s fast food workers are among the highest paid in the world.”

In the case of KFC’s 2010 award, along with cutting weekend penalty rates, casual workers received a small lift in the rate for ordinary hours worked to $20.90 an hour, slightly above the $20.59 award. Domino’s casual workers saw their ordinary pay rate set at $20.68, 9c above the award.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/industrial-relations/unions-deals-cut-workers-penalties/news-story/f00bf01f746da0f43d25b713a2570e81

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:54am
That hard core Socialist sheila from the CPSU is bunging it on big time with the usual warped Socialism of take from the rich and give to the unions.




McManus attacks ‘greedy’ mining companies
EWIN HANNAN The Australian12:44PM August 8, 2017


Sally McManus takes aim at 'greedy' mining companies. Picture: Supplied.

ACTU secretary Sally McManus has attacked “greedy, tax dodging” mining companies after they joined Martin Ferguson to call for new legal restrictions on unions and greater scope for employers to offer individual workplace contracts to workers.

Ms McManus today condemned a renewed push by the Minerals Council of Australia for pro-employer changes to the Fair Work Act claiming its “workplace reform fantasy will destroy the lives of working people.

Mr Ferguson, the former ACTU president and Labor Minister turned resources sector lobbyist, will tonight back the industry proposals, urging the Coalition to take workplace law changes “out of the deep freezer”.

While not naming Mr Ferguson, Ms McManus said the “rewarmed” proposals by the Minerals Council would drive down wages and make it easier for big corporations to casualise their workforces.

Ms McManus said the council had “dusted off the WorkChoices agenda of individual workplace contracts, alongside proposals to drastically reduce working people’s power at work”.

“The council, a Coalition ally which spent millions electing former Prime Minister Tony Abbott and campaigned against the mining tax which would have benefited Australian schools and hospitals, represents the interests of multinational mining companies, many of which pay zero tax,’’ she said.

“The mining companies are the most powerful multinationals on our planet. Their greed knows no limits. If we were all working for $4 an hour with no job security whilst they paid no tax, it would still not be enough for them.”

She said companies, including BHP, Adani and Rio Tinto made billions of dollars in profits but “now they want to cut their workers’ wages and curtail workplace safety”.

“This plan is just an attempt to rebrand parts of their wish list that has already been rejected by the Australian people,’’ she said.

“The only people who can put limits on their greed are the Australian people. We need stronger workplace rights to ensure this occurs”

She said the companies had a license to print money during the mining boom yet fought against paying tax, while they extracted our resources.

“The legacy of the boom for working people is a budget deficit, hollowed out job prospects and companies so powerful they keep demanding more and more,’’ she said

“We have seen the normalisation of tax avoidance by massive corporations. Every Australian suffers as a result of the greed of tax dodging big business.”

In a speech tonight, Mr Ferguson will say the Fair Work Act had swung the pendulum in some areas back too far in favour of unions.

Mr Ferguson has been working with the council to produce the package of proposed changes that also includes limiting the content of enterprise agreements to restrict the bargaining capacity of unions.

He says the Coalition should remove the ability for legal industrial action over business decisions and restrict clauses in agreements to direct employment matters.

He said the right of entry rules were rigid, allowed entry even where a union was not party to an award or agreement applying to employees at a premises, and had resulted in significant operational disruption in the mining industry.

He called for a narrowing of provisions prohibiting adverse action against employees for exercising their workplace rights or engaging in industrial activity, and a rewriting of the current framework for negotiating employment arrangements for planned new sites and projects.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/sally-mcmanus-attacks-greedy-tax-dodging-mining-companies/news-story/147a08a9d8bbe59f2365a5768398d53a


COMMENTS

Adam 2 DAYS AGO
The majority of workers who work on mining sites earn well over 100k a year I wouldn't call that chicken feed and a lot of them are on individual contracts get your facts right Sally Mcmannus for you come out with your scaremongering rubbish !!!

David 2 DAYS AGO
McManus fails to mention that the mining boom brought Australia back into surplus, where Howards Liberal government was able to repay all of Australia's debts and invested further surplus funds for times when Australia needed it.

McManus further fails to mention that it was the extremely poor (some say criminal) governance of Labors Rudd and Gillard and their failed policies which left the Australian government with huge debts, -all of which were acquired during the mining boom.This type of financial mismanagement and waste is almost unheard of.

If this type of financial mismanagement were to occur in the private sector, the management who oversaw the loss of such finances would be out of a job, sued by investors and thrown into prison. This is the extent of the level of mismanagement that Rudd and Gillard displayed during the two terms of Labor governance. It was pathetic!

For McManus to fail to mention these facts amounts to the intentional misleading of the Australian public. This is the type of danger that she brings for Australia and its people.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:54am
And a few more informed relevant COMMENTS to try to show the Lefties how to do it. But they prefer their dog's breakfasts.

Andrew 2 DAYS AGO
Pretty rich coming from corrupt, greedy, destructive and unaccountable unions.
If people want to exercise their individual right and not have unions involved in their employment contracts then they should be allowed to otherwise it is no more than a Marxist state.

Linda 3 DAYS AGO
How greedy will the miners be, ms. Macmanus, when they're all gone from Australia?

David 2 DAYS AGO
@Linda Closely followed by the rest of the businesses in Australia. The anti business rhetoric which has now been used by the union movement must be getting old now. They anti business rhetoric were lies when the unions first started their campaign against businesses in the 1940's. They are even more untrue now, as businesses now realise that their employees are a very valuable  asset, but because there are so many fewer large employers in Australia now, the damage the unions can do will be be so much more damaging.
I think that it is up to the people of Australia to learn the real facts of just how damaging the unions are to Australia's prosperity.

Dennis 3 DAYS AGO
I think the Union leaders may actually be worse for Australia than the mining companies!  Many of them including Ms McManus have little respect for the law and will break it if it suits them.

David 2 DAYS AGO
@Dennis Mining companies actually look forward to contributing to people and their communities where as unions only care about looking after themselves and the senior people who pull the strings within them.

Bill 3 DAYS AGO
Your class warfare is about to backfire. The public sector unions are Parasites 101. Enjoying wealth and privilege far above most Australians. They are meant to serve the public but seemingly they have become the public served. This privilege is way out of sync with how most of the rest of us live. It's inequality on steroids. Time for a big clean out. It's the only fair sustainable way to go.

Bill 3 DAYS AGO
What about greedy tax dodging unions Sally McManus. The greed of you people really has no bounds. Mines pay a whole range of taxes including royalties, stamp duty, excise and income tax not to mention the thousands they employ. What do you do?you blackmail employers and destroy jobs for many others. You are an abomination.

MikeT (WA) 3 DAYS AGO
This lady will either ruin the Unions or Australia

Alan 3 DAYS AGO
I worry when I read of the major multinationals making "inappropriate payments" to overseas government officials and I wonder why Australia is giving away our resources.  We are not going to see any return on our LNG exports from Gorgon and Wheatstone for the next 30 years.  BHP and RIO are making $50 a tonne profit but both companies are having their accounts audited by the Australian Tax Office for alleged profit shifting to their "Singapore Marketing Hubs".( So far the two multinationals have been billed $1.9 Billion by the Australian Tax Office)

Andrew 2 DAYS AGO
@Alan Alan, you worry too much.  The LNG exports are the result of more than $80 billion dollars worth of capital investment.  The transfer price is linked to the international price.  Tax is paid.  Royalty is paid.  And the 30 years is the take or pay period, so if the market falls, Australia still earns the royalty and the tax.  The clear and irrefutable point is that without the international take-or-pay agreement, the projects would not have been financed.  And gas in the ground is certainly not contributing to Australia's economy. 

Andrew 2 DAYS AGO
@Alan Best to worry about something you know something about, the mining industry has paid over 40% tax on average over the last ten years (Deloitte did the study),  if you want to read what drivel is written in the media and base your worries on that then that is a worry.

I wont go in to how much tax resource companies pay, how much capital they spend to get a return, the time it takes before they get a return and the risk that they take. There are plenty of groups like the unions and get-up to name a couple who cherry pick data and generally just leach off society while others are out there are creating value.

If you want to worry about something, worry about the unions not paying tax, they are a multi-billion dollar group of organisations accountable to no one and run by corrupt stand-over merchants, you should also worry about the undue influence they have on the country's political agenda and the hundreds of millions they spend disrupting democratic processes and not to mention the creeping control on peoples savings thru Industry super funds.

So there are plenty more things to worry about than mining companies paying tax when there are plenty of laws to ensure they do and they are paying more than their fair share already unlike the unions, banks, activists etc etc. Perhaps you should look at what the biggest sources of export income are for Australia.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Redmond Neck on Aug 11th, 2017 at 10:58am
More nonsense from the Ju Liar!   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:04am
He is panicking just like turdfull and his government.

Yesterday’s hysterical blaming of Labor in QT showed clearly that the govt is rattled and panicking. Internal polling perhaps?

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:06am
Now the ferals appear from the Dark Side to try to turn it all into another one of their dog's breakfasts.

But too late the damage is already done and can't be changed now.

Up the Lefty ferals from the dark Side.


And Martin Place is being cleared by the coppers following new lego passed by the NSW Lib govt.

Greenie Clover must be distraught and no doubt lodging complaints with the UN, HRC, GetUp!, Kim Jong, etc



Home Sweet Clover

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Redmond Neck on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:21am
6 replies by the Ju Liar to its own topic!

Why dont you use one of your other socks to making seem like a discussion!

Bloody Fool!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:34am
YouLiar isn’t too bright.

Seems the homeless camping in Martins Place have been offered accommodation and more money for services to the homeless has been made available.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:38am
Now that the Dark Side ferals are here it is time to go.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:28pm

juliar wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:38am:
Now that the Dark Side ferals are here it is time to go.

Juliar didn't see the conservative on the drum yesterday defending the right to unionise!

,.... Or is juliar just pretending she didn't see it: because we all did and she knows it!

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 11th, 2017 at 1:30pm

Jovial Monk wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 11:34am:
YouLiar isn’t too bright.

Seems the homeless camping in Martins Place have been offered accommodation and more money for services to the homeless has been made available.

More than a 28 days Damocles dagger ?

::)

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 11th, 2017 at 6:18pm
Does he stop business from merging .???? Why is it on the on hand they boast union membership is insignificant , then try to tell people that the unions are too powerful.???

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Captain Cavman on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm
Unions have done a lot for the average joe worker. Thats why there here to stay. Gov are currupt at all levels. They in themselves are a "union" as such. They vote themselves for the benifit of themselves.
One thing ive learnt is that the gov doesnt like competition. Labor has similar views to the unions. Thats why they get along.

Libs are rich wanks for the rich wanks. They dont like workers standing up for themselves. They want to dictate and control. The ABCC is a joke. Ill forfiet my benifits when the gov forfiet theirs. Untill then ill stand and fight.

Bring on the super union. 

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:54pm

Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 11th, 2017 at 7:49pm:
Unions have done a lot for the average joe worker. Thats why there here to stay. Gov are currupt at all levels. They in themselves are a "union" as such. They vote themselves for the benifit of themselves.
One thing ive learnt is that the gov doesnt like competition. Labor has similar views to the unions. Thats why they get along.

Libs are rich wanks for the rich wanks. They dont like workers standing up for themselves. They want to dictate and control. The ABCC is a joke. Ill forfiet my benifits when the gov forfiet theirs. Untill then ill stand and fight.

Bring on the super union. 


Well said

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 13th, 2017 at 4:59pm
Get realistic - unions are a hangover from the dark days of the Tariff Walls when they ruled the roost and could bring the hole country to a screeching halt.

Once the Tariff Walls came down with Senator Button's help the unions went into a steady decline because now if they monstered a business it would simply close down and leave Australia and then Australia would import inferior copies of the same stuff. Think Ford and Holden.

now the Tariff Walls are gone Australians have a choice of buying here or importing much cheaper goods from overseas and so all the unions succeed in doing with their unsustainable wage pushes is making the local business uncompetitive wrt their overseas competitors and so the local business is forced by the sabotage and extortion of the unions to close down.

So the corrupt evil unions are now the enemy of local industry and employment and must be CRUSHED for Australia to survive.

Union membership is now just a tiny 10% and falling but the unions have developed clout thru corrupt manipulation of legal systems and corrupt sourcing of funds from industry super funds and blatant coercion of funds from local industry under threat of sabotage.

The TURC revealed only a tiny amount of the fowl corruption the equally fowl unions are involved in but now Australia is going to get even with the fowl unions and CRUSH them forever.

To plaintively say the unions make work places safe is nonsense as the Fair Work is responsible for this.

The rapacious grasping of the unions is artificially increasing the cost of living here in Australia as our cost of production is artificially increased to levels uncompetitive with our Asian competitors.

With their tiny membership of only 10% the unions are now interested ONLY in looking after themselves and care very little about the actual workers.

Bull S.'s abuse of CleanEvent and Chiquito Mushrooms clearly shows this
.


Now stand by for the ferals to come hurtling out of the Dark Side.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by John Smith on Aug 13th, 2017 at 5:07pm

juliar wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 4:59pm:
Get realistic - unions are a hangover from the dark days of the Tariff Walls when they ruled the roost and could bring the hole country to a screeching halt.

Once the Tariff Walls came down with Senator Button's help the unions went into a steady decline because now if they monstered a business it would simply close down and leave Australia and then Australia would import inferior copies of the same stuff. Think Ford and Holden.

now the Tariff Walls are gone Australians have a choice of buying here or importing much cheaper goods from overseas and so all the unions succeed in doing with their unsustainable wage pushes is making the local business uncompetitive wrt their overseas competitors and so the local business is forced by the sabotage and extortion of the unions to close down.

So the corrupt evil unions are now the enemy of local industry and employment and must be CRUSHED for Australia to survive.

Union membership is now just a tiny 10% and falling but the unions have developed clout thru corrupt manipulation of legal systems and corrupt sourcing of funds from industry super funds and blatant coercion of funds from local industry under threat of sabotage.

The TURC revealed only a tiny amount of the fowl corruption the equally fowl unions are involved in but now Australia is going to get even with the fowl unions and CRUSH them forever.

To plaintively say the unions make work places safe is nonsense as the Fair Work is responsible for this.

The rapacious grasping of the unions is artificially increasing the cost of living here in Australia as our cost of production is artificially increased to levels uncompetitive with our Asian competitors.

With their tiny membership of only 10% the unions are now interested ONLY in looking after themselves and care very little about the actual workers.

Bull S.'s abuse of CleanEvent and Chiquito Mushrooms clearly shows this
.


Now stand by for the ferals to come hurtling out of the Dark Side.


Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 13th, 2017 at 5:40pm
Geez the ferals from the Dark Side are out in force denying and lying as they always do and Mr Smith shows how childish he really is with his silly copying and xing out ineffective shambles.

but Malcolm is undeterred as he has might and right on his side.

Another election winner for Malcolm.

Just wait till the election looms when the Fair Go will unleash an unprecedented awareness campaign for the Australian people after which nobody would even think of voting Labor.




Malcolm Turnbull vows to curb ‘lawless’ unions
GREG BROWN Journalist Canberra The Australian 12:09PM August 11, 2017


Bill Shorten has described Malcolm Turnbull as “desperate” for claiming the Labor leader could be in jail under the government’s new building code. Picture: AAP

Malcolm Turnbull has vowed to block the merger of two “lawless” unions as the government plans introduce legislation to parliament that would force the industrial umpire to apply a public interest test for any union mergers.

The Australian revealed this morning the the federal government would move to block the creation of a CFMEU and Maritime Union of Australia “super union” trying to pass legislation that would require further scrutiny on union mergers from the Fair Work Commission.

Mr Turnbull said this morning his government would “stand up for the rule of law” in the workplace.

“There are very real concerns about these two unions. Both of them have shown a long-term disregard for the law, they’ve been essentially lawless,” Mr Tunrbull told Melbourne radio station 3AW.

“One of the reasons they feel they’ve been able to get away with it is because of their size, so why would you want two already lawless unions who are big, to become even bigger?

“We’ll give the Fair Work Commission the power to assess whether it’s in the public interest for any mergers of unions to take place. It’s not dissimilar to the way the ACCC can approve mergers between companies or not. I think it’s manifestly in the public interest that we stand up for the rule of law.”

Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said the public-interest test would work similar to the scrutiny companies were given before proposed mergers were approved by the competition watchdog.

“We consider that a merger between the CFMEU and the Maritime Union of Australia, both unions with a bullying and militant and intimidating culture, is a real threat to our economy,” Mr Cormann said.

“It is a threat to productivity, it is a threat to jobs and what is proposed is that there should be a public interest test for the Commission that is making judgments on whether or not such a merger is in a public interest.”

Earlier this morning, Bill Shorten described Mr Turnbull as “desperate” for claiming the Labor leader could be in jail under the government’s new building code.

Mr Shorten hit back at the Prime Minister’s attack after legislation passed through the Senate on Wednesday night which banned secret payments from business to unions.

“I think that latest outburst is a lot more about him than me; these are the comments of a man under great pressure and he is desperate,” Mr Shorten told ABC radio.

“Don’t you think its remarkable that this government is so obsessed that they want to pass laws which just go after unions or particular individuals? I am very proud of my record of standing up for workers.”

Mr Shorten said that under the “bad laws” a business would not be able to compensate the widow of a builder who died at work.

“A worker dies on a building site or a work site, the union asks the company to pay something towards the widow, that would be illegal under this new law,” Mr Shorten said.

Yesterday, Mr Turnbull said the Labor leader’s opposition to the laws showed he defended union corruption.

“Here is a wholly owned subsidiary, a union that has no regard for the law, that is flagrantly breaching the law,” Mr Turnbull said yesterday.

“Bill Shorten has been defending, tooth and nail, corruption and secrecy, defending big unions and union officials doing dodgy deals with employers at the expense of the workers.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/turnbull-union-attack-is-desperate-shorten/news-story/af828cdc2942d450d33214732f93d590


And what always warms the cockles of the Lefties' hearts a few actual informed relevant COMMENTS


arlys 2 DAYS AGO
Two years, too late, Malcolm. Abbott presented you, on a plate, the results of the RC. You did nothing, even though the Unions and Shorten came out of it, smelling like dead eels. You simply let it go. And now, with your job looking increasingly shaky all of a sudden, you are going to do something, about these burglars. One can but wonder, what drives you, other the thought of losing your job.


Nancy 1 DAY AGO
Army's,I have thought from day one, only one thing drives Malcom, and that is his wife.


Kevin 2 DAYS AGO
I stand up for the workers says BS BUT DON'T ASK ME TO GET YOU A PAY RISE.


banjo 2 DAYS AGO
Shortens getting  very worried - he wiped the floor with Sabra Lane this morning , he constantly talked over her ,would not answer her questions , went of on a complete tangent - Arrogant ,nasty little Union owned man!



Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 13th, 2017 at 5:40pm
Some more thrilling COMMENTS.

A fish rots from the head down - how appropriate a description for Bull S. and the Labor Party!!!!




MikeT (WA) 2 DAYS AGO
Shorten looks really at home when he gets all personal and ugly    just like a Unlon Official

John 2 DAYS AGO
Keep it coming Malcolm. Every hour, every day. Shorten has to be exposed as the threat to Australia he is.

Peter 2 DAYS AGO
Time to curb union power.

David 2 DAYS AGO
Ah Silly Billy like all unionist if all else fails fall back on OHS, a well worn union tactic.

keith 2 DAYS AGO
Did Bill Shorten stand up for the workers employed by CleanEvent Chauquita Mushrooms&Unibuilt by pocketing their Penalty rates for his move into Parliment   I dont think so.

James 2 DAYS AGO
@keith Couldn't stand up .. his trousers where full of coins !

Rohan B 2 DAYS AGO
MT needs to massacre Labor on this issue. Bill Shorten has nowhere to hide on this issue, because he is a creature of the unions.

Daren 2 DAYS AGO
The CFMEU should be de-registered as a union and let them come back run properly and using their members funds for them, not shoring up parties to support their antics.  isn't that like developers giving money to politicians, seems the same principle.

Rohan B 2 DAYS AGO
@Daren Im surprised the CFMEU even exists after that damning RC, and so much of the judgements were reserved. Despicable.

MikeT (WA) 2 DAYS AGO
@Rohan B @Daren Turnbull ran as far away from the RC Findings that he could     his heart is for the Left

veronica 2 DAYS AGO
The conceited backstabber did not utter a wrong about Shorten and his union mates.
IN HIS ELECTION CAMPAIGN
He should have hammered home the findings of TURC.
The BOATS LABOR could not stop1
The DEBT they left.
He said zilch!

ross 2 DAYS AGO
If shorten goes , someone will take his place .He's a puppet . 

marc 2 DAYS AGO
Without the Unions you would all be living in Shanti towns with MT as your landlord..

ross 2 DAYS AGO
@marc  Nonsense .

Daren 2 DAYS AGO
@marc That's garbage, what we would have is more jobs that the unions caused to lose in the country. ie meatworks etc.

David 2 DAYS AGO
Rubbish.

Brad 2 DAYS AGO
@marc I'd be all right Marc....and that's all that matters.
I'm capable of thinking for myself unlike union members.

Alan 2 DAYS AGO
@Brad @marc  how many fights have you had in getting your respective wage.The hard work was done by the union movement as seen by the national wage cases.Until you can prove otherwise your opinion is baseless.

Paul 2 DAYS AGO
The union presence at dangerous workplaces such as construction or mine sites may be irritating for management but for the workers it is a matter of life and death.

Charles 2 DAYS AGO
@Paul Crap, my experience with Union reps is most of them could not spell  Safety.
These wise guys turn up after the event with "We knew this would happen"

Graeme 2 DAYS AGO
When a unionist does something stupid on a worksite, it suddenly becomes the employer's fault.

Paul 2 DAYS AGO
@Charles @Paul Your extensive experience of industrial accidents has led you to believe that unions have no place in dangerous workplaces and it would seem that the finance and real estate spivs that inhabit this commentary agree with you.

Rob 379 2 DAYS AGO
@Paul @Charles I guess there spivs because they don't agree with you.

Alan 2 DAYS AGO
@Charles @Paul  Care to name your experiences,ie w/sites,companies and the accidents that you haven't stated.In other words Innuendo.

santo 2 DAYS AGO
Kevin I'm not defending how the unions were acting
but the royal commission did not find it illegal.
I can't stand the meanness of the PM,that after using
his status to change the low, he tells him he should be
in jail

Gregory 2 DAYS AGO
CFMEU, ETA, MUA and a few more might evolve into an anagram for capital punishment for repeat serious offenders?

Andrew 2 DAYS AGO
BS must think the electorate has amnesia! He has form when a union leader that was revealed during the RC. He has declared he wants to run the country like a union leader. What a shocking prospect!


Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by thecuriousmail on Aug 13th, 2017 at 6:05pm
Juliar, you are endlessly repetitive and dull!
Dull dull dill dull.

Title: Re: It's on Mal vs Bull S. and the unions
Post by juliar on Aug 13th, 2017 at 6:08pm
The StickSnail,

you have nothing to offer but HATE Male. The pour soal is overwhelmed by all the discussion of Bull S. and Labor being like a fish rotting from the head down.

Typical armchair arm waving uninformed Lefty taking pot shots at the passing parade.

Which Centrelink do you go to ?


The law has changed & Bull S. does not like it!  He wants to run the country like he ran the the AWU - god help us if that ever happens.

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