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Title: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Leftwinger on Aug 12th, 2017 at 10:51am |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 10:55am
His fault for thinking Australians were compassionate.
We're teach the world how nasty we are. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by cods on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:30am
gosh lefty I do hope you have put your hand up to rent them your spare room..it would be the right thing to do you know...well of course you do how many homeless tent people are you putting up?now the scourge has been moved from Martin Place.. ::) ::) ::)
they have to go somewhere...your place will be fine. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:41am
You lefties really need to buy yourselves a dictionary. Alcatraz was a federal prison. Let me spell that for you P-R-I-S-O-N. That's a place where people are locked into cells and not allowed to leave and their every movement and every moment of their day is strictly controlled by armed prison guards. Honestly, I think you all ought to go ask for a refund from your schools, because clearly you've learned nothing whatsoever from your education.
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by bwood1946 on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:47am Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:41am:
Poor leftwinger the $#@@ sucker Alcatraz CLOSED IN 1963 :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:50am
Using Auschwitz in the title unsettles the hard righties too much.
Too close to the truth for them. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by lee on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:20pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:50am:
Oh, another place where there were armed guards. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D And gas chambers. ::) |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Captain Cavman on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:25pm
Your from iran. Why travel half way across the world, past plenty of other countries to try and seek asylum. Seems theyre very picky as to where they "want" to live as opposed to escaping from wartorn areas.
I would rather see my tax $$$$$ spent on the elderly of this country rather than worrying about people from another country. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Rhino on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:26pm
People die. It happens. I dont see any evidence that the death rate amongst refugees on manus is any higher than it would be in the general community. And comparing to Alcatraz is just plain stupid hysterical over reaction. A very feminine attribute.
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm lee wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:20pm:
Putting it out there ... for the next step? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by lee on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:28pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
You have a next step above overblown rhetoric? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Rhino on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:28pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:27pm:
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Gordon on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:03pm
Yes the Auschwitz comparison is spot on apart from the zyclonb, gas ovens, 1 million deaths in 5 years.
Maybe it would be a better comparison if the Jews sent to Auschwitz were actually fleeing their home country TO Germany :) Apart from that, just about the same. ![]() |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Gordon on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:05pm
Yup good call
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:20pm rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:28pm:
Everyone gets an opinion. Job or Not. So take you outdated hierarchical view and outdate it up your rear end ... then spin on it. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Frank on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:23pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:50am:
Don't be daft. The people on Manus and Nauru self-selected to be there. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:27pm Frank wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:23pm:
Did they? And your source ... let me guess ... a case of whiskey? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Secret Wars on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:06pm
Which side of politics sent the kiddies to Auschwitz?
Which if you think is a moronic statement then think about what you have done, compared Manus Island to Auschwitz. It is that sort of hysterical hyperbole that sees people write off clowns like you as moronic and irrelevant with no sense of perspective, proportion or history. In short a warrior of the left. :) :) :) |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Valkie on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:27pm Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 12:25pm:
Exactly. I have no problem with i migrants. As long as they work, intergrate, commit no crime and support themselves. These 4 small requirements are never met by these ILLEGAL imigrants. They dont work They dont intergrate They are over represented in crime And they do not support themselves. Better they stop these parastes from coming and support Australians FIRST |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Rhino on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:32pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:20pm:
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Gordon on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:32pm
Read about the terrible repression in Iran ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
http://www.dearcoffeeiloveyou.com/the-repressed-coffee-culture-of-iran/ |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:46pm rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:32pm:
Not reacting to your bait ~ the non issue of employment, means I've a more mature outlook than you. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by salad in on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:06pm
How many of these deaths could have been prevented:
Local Spotlight David WHEELER WHEELER David Ernest Edward of Noosaville formerly Sydney, passed away peacefully on the 5th Read Notice| Share Condolences Gerard Joseph KELLY KELLY, Gerard Joseph. 27.8.1943 - 5.8.2017 Family and friends are invited to attend a Mass of Read Notice| Share Condolences Louise Lenka KELL KELL Louise Lenka (Lulu) 7.10.1930 - 5.8.2017 Beloved wife of Leslie (dec). Cherished partner of Read Notice| Share Condolences Eileen Joan McNAMARA McNAMARA, Eileen Joan "Joan" Family and friends are warmly invited to attend JOAN's Funeral Read Notice| Share Condolences Francis TOOHEY TOOHEY Francis (Frank) Aged 73 years old Passed away peacefully on Sunday, 6th August 2017. Read Notice| Share Condolences Robert KELL KELL Robert and Kathleen Formerly of Baulkham Hills and Cabrini Aged Care, Westmead Much loved Read Notice| Share Condolences Francis Joseph OAM GLOVER GLOVER Francis Joseph OAM 21.7.1917 - 5/8/2017 Aged 100 years Beloved husband of Yvonne Read Notice| Share Condolences Keith WALLIS WALLIS Keith Robert Livestock Agent Moss Vale NSW 10.04.1928 – 07.08.2017 Loved husband of the Read Notice| Share Condolences http://tributes.smh.com.au/obituaries/smh-au/ Who knows. A better funded health system could have helped save a few of them. Instead money goes to fund the food and lodgings of these illegal country shoppers. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Rhino on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:13pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 2:46pm:
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by ___ on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:43pm rhino wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
Yet it's you who have been attacking the messenger. Due to a lack of argument on the topic on your part. I accept your surrender. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Rhino on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:01pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 3:43pm:
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:01pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:50am:
No, just makes you look like a lunatic with the intelligence of a slug. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by issuevoter on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:09pm
Correction: Another illegal alien dead. But if you want them, and anyone else to jump the que, vote Labor or Green. No problem. Except that you will be encouraging a human avalanche.
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by cods on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:15pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 11:50am:
you are despicable.....that is more than offensive to anyone who lived or had a loved one die in Auschwitz.. so typical of lowlifes that would use that as a comparison....I happen to be reading a book brought back from me from Auschwitz by my 19 year old grandson who has just been there and was very very moved by what he saw.....you sir have no idea the level you have taken yourself to try to win a miserable point.. your desperation is vile. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:16pm issuevoter wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:09pm:
They're not illegal aliens. And, there's no queue. You're having quite a bad day. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by cods on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:23pm
so you are one of the lefties we are reading about that has put his hand up to take in a prisoner of manus????
wow thats news.... how many lefties is that we have now?... they are not all words and puff and wind after all.. ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:26pm cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:15pm:
I was moved when I visited Auschwitz, as were many others on that day. I see no problem with the comparison, though. We're detaining a certain group of people in concentration camps, and some are dying. Sure, it might not be murder, but they're still being treated inhumanely. We need to learn from our mistakes and bringing up things like Auschwitz, in order to prove a point, is a valid tactic. If left to their own devices, who knows what our government would be capable of. We don't want another Auschwitz, and governments need to be reminded of this. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by salad in on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:16pm:
Look who else is having a bad day. An immigration advocate says the way Canada has dealt with the Syrian refugee crisis means refugees from elsewhere are being bumped down the list after waiting years to rebuild their lives. https://ca.news.yahoo.com/syrian-refugee-crisis-leaving-other-144005752.html salad in has shown up gp AGAIN. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:30pm cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:23pm:
Why should tax payers be housing asylum seekers in their own homes? I'm not sure what argument you're trying to put forward there. Do we house prisoners, the homeless, the sick, the dying, the mentally ill, the armed forces, etc.? Why do you single out asylum seekers? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:31pm salad in wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:27pm:
No mention of a queue there. Perhaps you'd like to try again? :-/ One does not join a queue to become an asylum seeker. This is an indisputable fact. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by miketrees on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:32pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wz_DNrKVrQ8
People die on holidays all the time |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by cods on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:35pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:30pm:
because you are a kind sympathetic lefty who would put his spare room where his mouth is.... we know you wouldnt keep just talking it up gweg.. we know lefties dont do that they are always the first to put their hand up.. remember gillards call to the nation .. she was even prepared to pay you to take in a family... I never did know how many accepted her offer but I am sur you were one of the first... you dont just talk the talk do you gweggy?... :) |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Secret Wars on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:36pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:31pm:
Indeed, but you are being your usual devious self. No one needs to queue up on a beach to become a country shopper. As you well know, when Gillard and Swann were talking about the queue they were meaning, as does everyone else apart from your silly duplicitous self, that country shoppers displace someone who is waiting for resettlement and that they would not be rewarded by being placed on the queue of those waiting to be settled. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:38pm cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:35pm:
Again, why do you single out asylum seekers? I'm not sure where your argument is coming from, cods. What about prisoners, the homeless, the sick, the dying, the mentally ill, the armed forces, etc.? Why aren't you asking me to put them up in my house too? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Gordon on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:40pm
Economic migrants.
Let them apply for a skills visa like every one else |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by salad in on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:48pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:31pm:
No mention of asylum seeker either. Playing smart alec is open to all. Salad in is correct AGAIN. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:50pm salad in wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:48pm:
So why did you post the link? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by salad in on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 5:50pm:
I did it in the hope that you might inform those waiting patiently in the queue that they could ignore convention and please themselves. Meanwhile, another queue forms: The 20 year queue: Family reunion for “genuine” refugees unlikely This is a reality for people recognised as refugees in Australia; the formal avenue for refugees to reunite with their families has a 20 year-long queue. The Australian Government makes it extremely difficult for refugees resettled in Australia to reunite with their families. Government policy on family reunion is forcing people into desperate situations, then severely punishing them for taking the only options available to them. https://law.blogs.latrobe.edu.au/2016/11/16/the-20-year-queue-family-reunion-for-genuine-refugees-unlikely/ salad in is once more correct. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:28pm salad in wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 6:27pm:
There's no queue to become an asylum seeker. Let this be a lesson to you. Hopefully it will make up for all the lessons you missed out on, from ages 12 through to 17. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Gordon on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm
There is not an infinite number of refugee places in Australia.
If a Pakistani taxi driver arrives by boat claiming asylum and hoping to work in Australia to afford a dowry for his true love in karachi, there will be one less place for a Yazzidi woman who's been kept as an ISIS sex slave. Boat arrivals are the least needy. Fkthem. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by miketrees on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:04pm Boat arrivals are the least needy. Fkthem Perzactly |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:13pm Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
How so? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:17pm miketrees wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:04pm:
How so? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead in auschwitz Post by Frank on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:19pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 1:27pm:
They were told not to chance it. Did they listen? No. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:20pm Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
How so? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Leftwinger on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:24pm
Did this one die from a bullet falling from the sky whilst he tied his own hands behind his back ?
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Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:29pm Gordon wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:01pm:
How so? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Frank on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:13pm:
They can buy an illegal passage that is far more expensive than legal immigration - if they were wanted or needed. But they are neither wanted nor needed, so they pay smugglers to foist themselves on us. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:42pm Frank wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
You do realise that seeking asylum has nothing to do with money, don't you? A multi-billionaire can seek asylum, and be granted refugee status. Let me guess: you're one of those ignorant fools who "thinks" (and I'm being EXTREMELY generous there) that 'refugee' = 'poor'? I'm right, aren't I - you're one of those idiots? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Valkie on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:14pm Frank wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:39pm:
Many of these ILLEGALS commit crime the very first chance they get into Australia. They destroy their identification for a very good reason. They are criminals. Rapists, murderers, thieves and more. They hide their identity to get int Austealia where they know our laws are far more lax than those of many other countries. They get caught and say things like "But this is normal where we come from" And the idioot magistrates anfd judges believe them and let them off to commit again and again, all the time perfecting their way to remain uncaught. I have no time for these retarded illegals. The more that kill themselves the better, we dont want these retards in our country. And if tyey do something disgusting to the poor people who have allowed them to stay, let them die. This is one less country shopper This is one less ILLEGAL This is one less parasite This is o e less criminal Ite quite simply a WIN WIN |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:19pm Valkie wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
Absolutely nothing illegal about country shopping. Of course, if you think I'm wrong, you're more than welcome to provide your evidence. Over to you ... |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by John Smith on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:21pm Valkie wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:14pm:
what a load of absolute rubbish were you hit in the head with a brick or something? |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 13th, 2017 at 8:11am greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 8:19pm:
That doesn't mean these country shoppers have the right to attempt to force their way into Australia against our government's wishes. If they were genuine refugees, that would be a different story. But they aren't, as you've admitted. They should be sent back as soon as their application is rejected. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Frank on Aug 13th, 2017 at 12:41pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 7:42pm:
Let them seek asylum in indonesia and malaysia where they can enter legally, visa free as muslims. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Leftwinger on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:07pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 8:11am:
So 4 years on , why haven't they been sent back ! |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Gordon on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:10pm
Where was this guy running away from? LOL
https://www.yahoo.com/news/iranian-coffee-lovers-flock-wave-cafes-071505929.html ![]() |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:12pm Its time wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 10:51am:
"Police on Manus Island have said the death of an Iranian refugee does not appear to be suspicious ... " :P |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Lord Herbert on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:17pm ____ wrote on Aug 12th, 2017 at 10:55am:
'Compassion' has seen hundreds of girls and women in Europe and Scandinavia raped by Middle Eastern subhumans, and thousands of children in the UK prostituted by the same human garbage from the Islamosphere. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Armchair_Politician on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:46pm Its time wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:07pm:
A number of reasons - some countries aren't allowing them back. I think Iran or Syria are in that group. But for many of them, they are in limbo due to refugee advocates tying the governments' hands in countless legal battles costing taxpayers millions of dollars. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Valkie on Aug 13th, 2017 at 6:25pm Armchair_Politician wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:46pm:
See Even the hell holes these retards left, dont want them back. The worlds trash No one wants them, no one needs them. Good riddance to them. |
Title: Re: Another asylum seeker dead on alcatraz Post by Valkie on Aug 13th, 2017 at 6:29pm Lord Herbert wrote on Aug 13th, 2017 at 1:17pm:
These country shopping , illegal criminals who simply want to be parasitesvand a burden on our country. Should be discouraged with mortal intent. The Russians got it right from the start. Two warning shots over the bow. Two hundred shots into the boat. Result......no more boats. Think of how many lives were saved. It worked well |
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