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Message started by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:13pm

Title: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:13pm

Foreign Minister says building trust with NZ Labour 'difficult' if it wins election

1:46pm Aug 15, 2017

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said it would be "very difficult to build trust" with a Labour government should the opposition party win the upcoming New Zealand election.

Speaking to reporters in Canberra this morning, Ms Bishop said it was a Labour MP in New Zealand who first question Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce's status as an Australian citizen.

Mr Joyce has been referred to the High Court to test whether his New Zealand citizenship-by-descent makes him ineligible to sit in parliament.


Mr Joyce revealed in parliament yesterday he had been advised by the New Zealand high commission he could be a New Zealander as his father was born there.
Minister Julie Bishop in Canberra today. (AAP)
The revelations put the Liberal party in danger of losing its one-seat majority if Mr Joyce is disqualified from parliament.

Having criticised the Australian Labor Party over an incident involving contact with an NZ Labour MP, Ms Bishop was asked whether she would trust a future NZ Labour government.

"I would find it very difficult to build trust with members of a political party that had been used by the Australian Labor Party to seek to undermine the Australian government," Ms Bishop said.
Ms Bishop told reporters Labor leader Bill Shorten "sought to use a foreign political party to raise a serious allegation in a foreign parliament designed to undermine confidence in the Australian government.

"Bill Shorten must reveal who he put up to this dirty tactic and the details of this urging of a foreign political party to be in involved," she said.
Conservative independent MP Bob Katter said the Turnbull government could not rely on his support should it slip into minority.

If the High Court rules Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce ineligible to sit and he loses a by-election in his safe New England seat, the government would need the support of one of five crossbenchers to survive.

"It's back to the drawing board," Mr Katter said, when asked today about guaranteeing confidence and supply.

Another independent MP Andrew Wilkie said he would continue to approach all issues in the parliament on their merits and has "not guaranteed anyone anything".

Nick Xenophon Team MP Rebekha Sharkie said Mr Joyce should step aside from cabinet while the court determines his eligibility.

But she said any suggestion of the government needing crossbench support was a "long, long way away".

"What I want to see is ... a stable government," she told Sky News. "I won't be supporting party games but I do think we could have some greater certainty around cabinet."

Comment was being sought from independent Cathy McGowan and Greens MP Adam Bandt.

Attorney-General George Brandis told TODAY this morning that anyone who doubted Barnaby Joyce as an Australian was “completely absurd”.

“I think most Australians would think that the idea that Barnaby Joyce is anything other than a dinky-di Aussie is completely absurd,” he told TODAY Show co-host Lisa Wilkinson this morning.

Mr Brandis said the information about Mr Joyce’s New Zealand citizenship came about as a result of “skulduggery contrived by the Australian Labor party with the New Zealand Labor party”.

“Mr Joyce had absolutely no reason to think that the operation of New Zealand’s citizenship law would apply to him,” he said.

Labor says Malcolm Turnbull must explain why one minister - LNP Senator Matthew Canavan - has stood aside over citizenship issues while Mr Joyce remains in the cabinet.

Mr Canavan stepped aside last month when he discovered he is an Italian citizen.

“They need to release the advice as to why the situation for Senator Canavan is different to the situation for the member for New England (Mr Joyce),” Labor MP Tony Burke said in parliament yesterday.
Mr Brandis said the two cases are “complex” and different.

“The facts of Senator Canavan’s case, and the legal issues concerning Italian laws… are completely different from the facts and legal issues of Mr Joyce’s case,” he said.

“For a start because they involve the interpretation of Italian law which is a matter of some complexity.”

He said the government is acting on senator general advice for both cases.

New Zealand prime minister Bill English told reporters he had been advised Mr Joyce was a New Zealand citizen by descent, but it was up to the Australian courts to determine whether this affected the Nationals leader's parliamentary role.

Labor leader Bill Shorten used question time to pressure the prime minister over his reluctance to stand Mr Joyce aside, and is expected to ramp up the attack today.

Mr Turnbull said Mr Joyce was qualified to sit in parliament and the High Court would find in favour of him.

He also hit back at Labor’s hard line, threatening to refer five of its MPs to the High Court to force them to prove they’ve renounced foreign citizenship, embroiling more people in the scandal.

© Nine Digital Pty Ltd 2017



Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm
Shorten conspiring with a foreign government to get our politicians sacked. What a treacherous  piece of scum.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm
i see bishop is doing her best to destroy relations with NZ :D :D


someone give her her broom so she can fly away



Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:19pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
i see bishop is doing her best to destroy relations with NZ :D :D


someone give her her broom so she can fly away


Haven't you been jizzing all over yourself about Trump use of  a foreign country to get dirt on his political opponents. Well your maggot leader just did it the treacherous piece of s hit.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Aussie on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:21pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
i see bishop is doing her best to destroy relations with NZ :D :D


someone give her her broom so she can fly away


Haven't you been jizzing all over yourself about Trump use of  a foreign country to get dirt on his political opponents. Well your maggot leader just did it the treacherous piece of s hit.

Where is you evidence that Shorten did anything?
It seems that the NZ Pollie acted on Australian schmedia requests.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:22pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
i see bishop is doing her best to destroy relations with NZ :D :D


someone give her her broom so she can fly away


Haven't you been jizzing all over yourself about Trump use of  a foreign country to get dirt on his political opponents. Well your maggot leader just did it the treacherous piece of s hit.



gee, I'm gonna give you a minute to see if you can work out all on your own what the difference is between trump conspiring with enemy to affect the election results,and an MP enquiring with a foreign govt. as to the citizenship status of another MP. :D :D :D

you do realise that the libs have most likely sent enquiries of their own out to everyone they can think of, right? :D :D :D :D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by stunspore on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
i see bishop is doing her best to destroy relations with NZ :D :D


someone give her her broom so she can fly away


Haven't you been jizzing all over yourself about Trump use of  a foreign country to get dirt on his political opponents. Well your maggot leader just did it the treacherous piece of s hit.

Where is you evidence that Shorten did anything?
It seems that the NZ Pollie acted on Australian schmedia requests.

making s hit up again I see?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Aussie on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:27pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:21pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:19pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
i see bishop is doing her best to destroy relations with NZ :D :D


someone give her her broom so she can fly away


Haven't you been jizzing all over yourself about Trump use of  a foreign country to get dirt on his political opponents. Well your maggot leader just did it the treacherous piece of s hit.

Where is you evidence that Shorten did anything?
It seems that the NZ Pollie acted on Australian schmedia requests.

making s hit up again I see?


Where is your evidence that Shorten did anything?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by BigOl64 on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm


How desperate does NZ have to be to claim people born in other countries as kiwis just because they are the kid of someone who loved NZ some much they fkked off and never came back.


Let them go man, they're gone and they ain't coming back.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by stunspore on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:33pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.


Not sure how.  Illegal is illegal.  Barnaby had these questions on him before - he ignored them at his peril.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:34pm
Just watched a minute of question time, Turnbulls a joke

his response to a question on why Canarvan resigned by Barnacles hasn't was that the liberal party has been very honest and open on the citizenship question

:D :D :D :D

why then did barnacles only admit his status only AFTER the NZ govt. had already confirmed it? :D :D :D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by thecuriousmail on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:34pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.


That's an hysterical claim.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Vic on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:44pm
"I would find it very difficult to build trust with members of a political party that had been used by the Australian Labor Party to seek to undermine the Australian government," Ms Bishop said.

You won't have to worry about that soon Jules, you will be the Opposition Spokesperson on Sheep Dagging - let the incoming AUSTRALIAN Labor Party worry about the finer points as the Coalition Of Foreigners grasps to secure MPs and Senators that know what Vegemite is.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Vic on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:45pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:34pm:
Just watched a minute of question time, Turnbulls a joke

his response to a question on why Canarvan resigned by Barnacles hasn't was that the liberal party has been very honest and open on the citizenship question

:D :D :D :D

why then did barnacles only admit his status only AFTER the NZ govt. had already confirmed it? :D :D :D



why then did barnacles only admit his status only AFTER the NZ govt. had already confirmed it

Probably the only time he was sober

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Bam on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:35pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:13pm:
Foreign Minister says building trust with NZ Labour 'difficult' if it wins election

1:46pm Aug 15, 2017

Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said it would be "very difficult to build trust" with a Labour government should the opposition party win the upcoming New Zealand election.

Speaking to reporters in Canberra this morning, Ms Bishop said it was a Labour MP in New Zealand who first question Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce's status as an Australian citizen.

Bishop is LYING.

The questions over Joyce's citizenship were first asked eight days ago by Fairfax journalists.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of horse s hit.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Lastone on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:17pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Shorten conspiring with a foreign government to get our politicians sacked. What a treacherous  piece of scum.


Was there an Election held and did Labour win government in New Zealand? Lets be accurate here if there was any conspiring it was done with a foreign opposition. Now lets get serious, Labor as an opposition is supposed to make sure the the government dots the I's and crosses the T's. If it is of the opinion that a member of the government is not entitled to be there, They are only doing their Job in raising the issue.

When it comes to questions of dual citizenship the only way to obtain that information is through contact with other governments. Labor broke no laws in obtaining that information. Let us be honest when it comes to Labor members of Parliament who the Liberals have doubts over there is no doubt that messages have gone out through the network of international conservatism.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:00pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of horse s hit.


how do you even manage to walk with your head up your arse all the time?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:02pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of horse s hit.


how do you even manage to walk with your head up your arse all the time?
Seeing you change your mind according to it's political perspective is pitiful. At least be consistent.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:06pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of horse s hit.


how do you even manage to walk with your head up your arse all the time?
Seeing you change your mind according to it's political perspective is pitiful. At least be consistent.



no ones changed their mind. You claiming it's the same thing as trump is stupidity at it's best. The two cases are not even remotely similar.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:08pm

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of horse s hit.


how do you even manage to walk with your head up your arse all the time?
Seeing you change your mind according to it's political perspective is pitiful. At least be consistent.



no ones changed their mind. You claiming it's the same thing as trump is stupidity at it's best. The two cases are not even remotely similar.
Using overseas sources to dredge up dirt? It really is simple. It's the same. Don't look at the technicalities. Look at the basic act.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:16pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:08pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:06pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 6:00pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 5:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 4:02pm:

John Smith wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:28pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:24pm:

stunspore wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 2:23pm:
So somehow, the ALP made Barnaby into a NZ citizen?  Or simply just airing out Barnaby's secret that he is ineligible as a MP?

So is it wrong to point out that Barnaby is illegally in parliament?
Not at all. But using support from foreign political parties to get rid of our elected politicians is extremely suspect. That's treachery.



;D ;D ;D ;D

desperate much?

You've changed your tune. You didn't like it when Trump's son did the same thing.


trumps son illegally conspired with the enemy to affect an election result
Labor merely asked a question as to citizenship of a member of Parliament. You do realise that politicians regularly ask foreign governments questions as to legal status of australian citizens? right?


And do you seriously believe that the libs haven't asked other governments about the status of labor MP's? ;D ;D ;D ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D What a load of horse s hit.


how do you even manage to walk with your head up your arse all the time?
Seeing you change your mind according to it's political perspective is pitiful. At least be consistent.



no ones changed their mind. You claiming it's the same thing as trump is stupidity at it's best. The two cases are not even remotely similar.
Using overseas sources to dredge up dirt? It really is simple. It's the same. Don't look at the technicalities. Look at the basic act.


no one is dredging up dirt. They merely asked a question over citizenship status. Govt. representatives do this all the time for many different people.  It's totally different to organising/accessing illegal hacking with an enemy of the state so as to affect the outcome of an election

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm
Has Shorten committed treason?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Aussie on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?


Why do you even ask such a dumbarse question, Bobby?  Are you really a 'fool?'

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:29pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?


Why do you even ask such a dumbarse question, Bobby?  Are you really a 'fool?'



I must be - Smithy thinks I am.  ;D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by davo on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:31pm
As Bam has said a journo from The Age received a tip re Joyce. Reading todays threads has been hysterical some of the righties are borderline insane.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?

Using another countries political party to arse one of our elected politicians sure looks like it Bobby. It's blown my mind because I've never heard of that happening in Australia. Really sickening.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Lastone on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?

The Australian constitution prohibits people of dual Nationality for running for the Australian Parliament Barnaby Joyce holds dual citizenship with New Zealand. Who has done the wrong thing. The person sitting in parliament holding dual citizenship or the person finding out that information and disclosing it?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:36pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:29pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?


Why do you even ask such a dumbarse question, Bobby?  Are you really a 'fool?'



I must be - Smithy thinks I am.  ;D



you prove it each and every day.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:37pm
The Australian Labor Party staffer who fished for information about New Zealand citizenship has been identified.

Senator Penny Wong's chief of staff Marcus Ganley, himself from New Zealand, spoke to Labour MP Chris Hipkins, Fairfax Media reports.

That conversation has plunged Mr Hipkins into the middle of a trans-Tasman political scandal.


He put in written questions it's now known were linked to Australian Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce's parliamentary eligibility, and he's been blasted by his party leader for his lack of judgement.

Senator Wong has confirmed it was one of her staff who had an "informal discussion" with Mr Hipkins.

The High Court will determine later this month if Mr Joyce, a New Zealand citizen by descent through his father, is in breach of the Australian Constitution's prohibition on dual citizen MPs.

The New Zealand High Commission and Department of Internal Affairs notified Mr Joyce of his citizenship last week, after inquiries from Fairfax Australia and Mr Hipkins on Monday and Wednesday respectively.

Shortengate!!!

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Sir Bobby on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:41pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?

Using another countries political party to arse one of our elected politicians sure looks like it Bobby. It's blown my mind because I've never heard of that happening in Australia. Really sickening.



Yes - he's tried to overthrow our government using the help of a foreign Govt.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:43pm
i see hammers still clutching at straws.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Lastone on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:50pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?

Using another countries political party to arse one of our elected politicians sure looks like it Bobby. It's blown my mind because I've never heard of that happening in Australia. Really sickening.


The High court is yet to decide as to whether he is an elected politician. Does Barnaby Joyce hold dual citizenship. Yes. Labor has every right through legal means to seek information on the eligibility of government members to hold office. Just as the government has the right to ensure that all Labor members are elected properly. Labor broke No laws

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Dnarever on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:53pm



Quote:
Foreign Minister Julie Bishop said it would be "very difficult to build trust" with a Labour government should the opposition party win the upcoming New Zealand election.


The Kiwi's would be wetting their pants with laughter, as if they could care less what the Asbestos witch has to say.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Dnarever on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:57pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:32pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 7:19pm:
Has Shorten committed treason?

Using another countries political party to arse one of our elected politicians sure looks like it Bobby. It's blown my mind because I've never heard of that happening in Australia. Really sickening.


Irrespective of what happens in the future Baaarnaby was not eligible to stand for election in the first place, he has been illegitimate from day one in parliament.

Every vote he cast is dubious and especially from now when it is understood that he is not a valid member of parliament any vote he casts will be vulnerable.



Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Fit of Absent Mindeness on Aug 15th, 2017 at 8:24pm
Shorten hasn't done anything - the LNP have screwed themselves.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Raven on Aug 15th, 2017 at 8:58pm
If a liberal MP did this to a labor MP would he be considered a patriot?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by juliar on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:11am
More massive corruption by the corrupt union controlled Labor Party.

Wonder if it was GetUp!'s idea ?

And there is a FLU epidemic. Have U had your FLU SHOT ? Can a vax cause AUTISM ?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:14am
Looks like our resident nutter juLiar has lost the plot , poor soul   :D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by stunspore on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:35am
Maybe the lobster mobster crew from NZ flying over to bankroll the poor coalition who are hiding NZ citizenship?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by juliar on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:38am
LW, where is your brother Mr Smith ?

And a bit of whirring and stirring from deep down in the abandoned world of political correctness.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:45am
https://youtu.be/ApLemAiUAg0

:)

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by juliar on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:49am
LW has discovered those sad boring YouTube thingies that nobody bothers to watch.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:52am

juliar wrote on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:49am:
LW has discovered those sad boring YouTube thingies that nobody bothers to watch.


I wouldn't watch it if I were you , Burkee crushes you mongs  :)

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by thecuriousmail on Aug 16th, 2017 at 9:01am
I just heard kiwi politicians on the radio saying there is a new zealand general election next month, and why is an australian politician (Glorious Julie) seemingly attempting to influence the outcome??

Coalition problems are entirely of their own making.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by John Smith on Aug 16th, 2017 at 9:14am

Raven wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 8:58pm:
If a liberal MP did this to a labor MP would he be considered a patriot?



they would call it 'holding them to account'  :D :D

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Aussie on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:27pm
Link.

For once, I agree with Bernardi.


Quote:
Senator Bernardi, who defected from the government earlier this year, said it was normal for people to exploit personal contacts for political gain.

"I challenge anyone in this place to say they would not have done the same," he told parliament.



Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by Dnarever on Aug 16th, 2017 at 8:43pm

Raven wrote on Aug 15th, 2017 at 8:58pm:
If a liberal MP did this to a labor MP would he be considered a patriot?


You need to step outside of the realm of reality to link this to any politician. The media found out about it.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by juliar on Aug 18th, 2017 at 6:17am
Utterly shocking behavior by the GetUp!gate Bull S.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by stunspore on Aug 18th, 2017 at 7:49am
So far this NZ incident has made the libs and Bishop the losers.  They are better off trying a different angle.

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by juliar on Aug 18th, 2017 at 9:54am
Some faint stirring in the abandoned derelict world of political correctness.

Labor is really scraping the bottom of the barrel with this NZ dribble which is already backfiring on them as the Hi Court will drop the whole farcical distraction.

Nearly as sick as Bull S. supporting the SSM when he failed to let it thru when he could.

NO is all the GO and the GAYS will be after Bull S. Will they burn Bull S. at the steak ?

Title: Re: Shortengate- Used NZ Labour Party To Undermine OZ.
Post by stunspore on Aug 18th, 2017 at 12:25pm
Hmm, now juliar telling the high courts what to do....looks like a common coalition thing.  contempt, ordering the high courts to do this and that...

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