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Message started by bogarde73 on Aug 18th, 2017 at 1:51pm

Title: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by bogarde73 on Aug 18th, 2017 at 1:51pm
On 9 August the Senate passed the Turnbull Government’s Fair Work Amendment (Corrupting Benefits) Bill designed to ensure that Australian workers are put first in dealings between employers and unions.

The Heydon Royal Commission uncovered a raft of payments known as ‘corrupting benefits’ between unions and employers designed to ensure companies got favourable treatment from unions. Many of the worst examples included payments by employers to the Victorian division of the AWU in which the Leader of the Opposition, Mr Shorten, was involved.
The Bill now bans secret and corrupting payments from businesses to unions, and requires the disclosure of any legitimate payments arising from enterprise agreements. When corrupting payments are made, both parties are equally culpable. The Bill ensures that the same prohibitions and sanctions will apply to both employers and unions.

The Bill passed the Senate despite strident opposition from Bill Shorten and Labor, who again made a choice to protect workplace corruption and put their union masters before hardworking Australians.

“Bill Shorten and Labor today voted against protecting Australian workers from secret deals between employers and unions that all too often disadvantage workers. It is staggering that the Labor Party would put the interests of crooked unions and crooked employers ahead of the interests of honest workers, who deserve to know that their employers are not engaging in secret deals and that their unions are acting in their best interests,” Minister Cash said.

The Heydon Royal Commission found that as Secretary of the Australian Workers Union Bill Shorten arranged payments from numerous businesses to benefit the union rather than its members.

“As Secretary of the AWU, Bill Shorten traded away the pay and conditions of some of Australia’s lowest paid workers. The AWU later received secret payments of $75,000 from Cleanevent to maintain this arrangement.” Minister Cash said.

“In addition, when Bill Shorten ran for Parliament in 2007, a building company spent $32,000 hiring a staff member to act as his campaign manager whilst at the same time negotiating an enterprise agreement with Mr Shorten’s union. These payments created a clear conflict of interest and were highly unethical, yet remarkably, they were not technically unlawful. This legislation ensures that they now are.”

Minister Cash said secret payments are a blight on Australia’s workplace relations system and that workers should have confidence that negotiations between their union and employer are conducted honestly and fairly, without any money secretly changing hands.

“Today’s vote was a key test for Bill Shorten to see whether he would put ordinary workers or crooked deals first – he failed,” Minister Cash said.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by bogarde73 on Aug 18th, 2017 at 1:51pm
Good work guys.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by Ajax on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:00pm
Unions have been institutionalised and when ever that happens and a few people represent the majority those few people are open to corruption from the oligarchy and other entities.

Money...money....money





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Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:08pm
My pay has always been awesome under union agreements

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by Ajax on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:13pm
I've never been a part of a union, but I can understand why people would want to be in a union as a collective against the oligarchy or the oligarchy's henchmen.

Plus I can appreciate all the rights we enjoy today thanks to those old boys that spilled blood in the day to win them.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by bogarde73 on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:32pm

Its time wrote on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
My pay has always been awesome under union agreements


So I guess you don't mind union/employer corruption?
The public good is not an issue for you as long as there's cash in your hand?

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by Leftwinger on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:37pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:32pm:

Its time wrote on Aug 18th, 2017 at 2:08pm:
My pay has always been awesome under union agreements


So I guess you don't mind union/employer corruption?
The public good is not an issue for you as long as there's cash in your hand?


Public good  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by juliar on Aug 18th, 2017 at 4:54pm
It just wouldn't be LABOR if it wasn't corrupt.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by stunspore on Aug 18th, 2017 at 4:58pm
What bill stops mobster donations?  It wouldn't be liberal if they stopped eating lobsters.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 18th, 2017 at 5:25pm
Turnbull needs to focus on his job not the opposition....Nothing will happen to Bill Shorten because of these new laws!!!!!!

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Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by juliar on Aug 18th, 2017 at 5:49pm
And they say a fish rots from the head down - such an accurate description of Bull S. and the decaying Labor Party.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by bogarde73 on Aug 18th, 2017 at 6:18pm
Leftwinger, previously known as some kind of Suppository, seems to think the concept of the "public good" us some kind of joke.

He should go back and look at the history of the Union & Labor movements and he might be surprised to discover it figured strongly in their philosophy.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 18th, 2017 at 6:28pm
The Unions and the Labor Party in twain have never been the same since they embarked on their university-educated ideologically driven campaign to make everyone equal by force using progressive disempowerment of specified groups in order to provide power=money=everything else for their own selected groups as a FIRST priority - a first priority from which they have never and will never progress until such time as this nation is a ruin dwelling under the control of the ultra-left's chosen groups.

Like that campaign to cut down on violence - the first step was cutting man v women violence - in twenty five years of the vilest end-run around the Rule of Law and of violence itself writ large against the men community in many ways, there has been not one deviation from that ';first step', but ONLY an escalation in the violence that step itself has created.  The same applies to each and every other 'equalising' effort imposed on a gullible and powerless public over the past near forty years now.  NONE has succeeded, and all have created endless strife, division, and unnecessary pain for the many.

Until they abandon this kind of despotic and indeed illegal behaviour, which would rightly be condemned in the International Court as crimes against humanity in any African nation, the Unions and the major parties will never be proper representatives of anything but their ideology.

The Unions shot themselves in the foot, Labor shot itself in the foot, and their opposition has never had the overall public good in mind, and never will.

On top of that you may clearly add that each and every one of these bodies has now become a series of personal fiefdoms built for the purpose of self-enrichment of those 'on the inside', and as such, they are absolutely open to corruption and vile misuse of funding held within them for their own use, as anyone with a mind would expect.

So unless and until a viable and genuine force for genuine good for all equally rises again in this nation and begins to compel them to all run straight and true - NONE of these bodies is worth a cracker.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by Jovial Monk on Aug 18th, 2017 at 7:25pm
You could, possibly, believe these laws were anti–corruption if they included laws to make all donations due to be disclosed as they are received. That wouldn’t suit the Lib Party I suppose with its mobster and tobacco donations.

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by John Smith on Aug 18th, 2017 at 7:27pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 18th, 2017 at 5:25pm:
Turnbull needs to focus on his job not the opposition....Nothing will happen to Bill Shorten because of these new laws!!!!!!

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its a last gasp, a dying attempt, to distract from the shocking week turnbulls had. Get the attention onto unions and away from his illegitimate government

Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by John Smith on Aug 18th, 2017 at 7:30pm

bogarde73 wrote on Aug 18th, 2017 at 6:18pm:
Leftwinger, previously known as some kind of Suppository, seems to think the concept of the "public good" us some kind of joke.

He should go back and look at the history of the Union & Labor movements and he might be surprised to discover it figured strongly in their philosophy.



where's the public good in allowing political donation?
where's the public good in delaying reporting of donations for 7 months?
where the public good in not having to declare all donations?


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Title: Re: The Fair Work (Corrupting Benefits) Bill
Post by stunspore on Aug 18th, 2017 at 10:26pm

juliar wrote on Aug 18th, 2017 at 5:49pm:
And they say a fish rots from the head down - such an accurate description of Bull S. and the decaying Labor Party.


Fish....maybe someone is actually smelling lobster from mobster-aligned liberals?

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