NNorth Korea has tested a Hydrogen Bomb dramatically lifting tensions with the U.S. and the rest of the world

Pressure is now being brought to China to place a complete embargo on trade with North Korea

Source ABC TV NEWS 4.9.17

Comment Red Baron: It almost seems inevitable that North Korea is on a collision course with the rest of the World. Kim Jong Un keeps pressing the weapons button the latest outrageous in the testing of a nuclear bomb

How long America's patience will last is a moot point

I believe one thing is certain. The U.S. is not going to wait for Jong Un to harness one of his nukes to an inter continental ballistic missile and send it to the U.S.A.

I believe a pre emptive strike on America's part is almost certain. Particularly if China does not react to international pressure to stop trading with North Korea

If a strike comes from America it will be one of enormous proportions

The U.S., cannot allow a single launching site to survive its first blistering strike

The danger of a launch to the U.S. mainland would be too great

Picture: Kim Jong Un receiving news of the Nuclear Bomb detonation - 6 hours ago

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There is enough corn in that to feed starving Nations.

The bloke with the shithaircut is not gonna do anything.  He knows he and his Country will be farqed if he is naughty and kicks the Big Kid in the chins.

He is, just like others, allowed to let off big crackers in his own back yard and we ought to mind our own bloody business.

Problem is Aussie that this 'kid' had the capability now to send a nuke to the U.S. (or multiple)

How long do you think the U.S. will wait..until he is ready to go for the big one and drop nukes on U.S. mainland?

Can't see it

The next few weeks will be critical, the U.S. will be watching China's actions like a hawk

We are literally on the precipice

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 12:48pm:

The U.S., cannot allow a single launching site to survive its first blistering strike The danger of a launch to the U.S. mainland would be too great

NK has mobile launchers so there are no missile sites.

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

{Problerm iws Aussie that this ' kid' had the csapability noiw to send a nuke to the U.S. ()or multiple) How long do you thin the U.S. will wait..until he is ready to go for the big one and drop nukes on U.S. mainland? Can't see it The next few weeks will be critical, the U.S. will be watching China's actions like a hawk We are literally on the precipice

Rubbish.  If that were true, among many other things, our Military would be mobilised, out of Arabia and elsewhere, and back here in Australia.

Sir Bobby do you think the U.S. is likely to launch an all out strike on North Korea given the latest developments?

Aussie Malcolm Turnbull was on the box this morning declaring that North Korea has raised the greatest risk of all out War in the last 60 years

I think this has the capability to go south very, very fast

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:10pm:

Sir Bobby do you think the U.S. is likely to launch an all out strike on North Korea given the latest developments? Aussie Malcolm Turnbull was on the box this morning declaring that North Korea has raised the greatest risk of all out War in the last 60 years I think this has the capability to go south very, very fast

Hi Baron,
it's a very serious situation.
An all out nuclear war could start at any second.

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:10pm:

Sir Bobby do you think the U.S. is likely to launch an all out strike on North Korea given the latest developments? Aussie Malcolm Turnbull was on the box this morning declaring that North Korea has raised the greatest risk of all out War in the last 60 years I think this has the capability to go south very, very fast

Yes I saw him.  Did his level best to appear totally all-knowing and really sincere as well.

I read it as a bash of China.  Telling the Chinese that NK has made a mug of them in the hope the Chniese will get all hairy chested and isolate NK even further.

Propaganda bullshit, and the plebs fall for it.

"North Korea drops a Nuke"

I thought it was an underground test.

Well...one thing is for CERTAIN Jong Un dropped a Nuke

How this plays out will be centre stage in the coming days

The ONLY reason that he is alive today is because he and his father had nuclear bomb.   He is not going to use as the first strike.  As soon as he do so, him and his hard fought empire will fall.   He is crazy, and cruel, but he is not stupid.  What purpose does it serve to send a nuclear bomb to USA?   Is he going to get paid for it?  Is he going to be able to occupy USA?  Does that mean South Korea is going to surrender? 

He however, WILL use it, if he is sure that he is going to end up like Saddam Or Gadhafi. 

Nothing will happen besides more bluster and idiotic sanctions, the damage to Seoul in the first hour of a conflict would be horrific which is why the US won't strike.

This is all just BS.

USA would not dare attack North Korea without China and Russia consent because both China and Russia share a border with North Korea.

China and Russia are unlikely to give their consent.

There is a huge risk of a miscalculation by USA which could cause conflict with China or Russia if they shoot down USA aircraft or missiles.

Jong Un has isolated North Korea

He will have further alienated China with this what is now clarified as an underground blast

Shock waves were felt through China which will have the leaders there fuming

Prepare for China to turn off the tap completely on North Korea both imports and exports

They are the court of last resort for North Korea

It could soon find itself isolated by the entire world

This story is not over by a long shot

Prepare for a bad situation to get critical

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 6:24pm:

Jong Un has isolated North Korea He will have further alienated China with this what is now clarified as an underground blast Shock waves were felt through China which will have the leaders there fuming Prepare for China to turn off the tap completely on North Korea both imports and exports They are the court of last resort for North Korea It could soon find itself isolated by the entire world This story is not over by a long shot Prepare for a bad situation to get critical

Go back to the Hominy Bakery, have a nice warm pie, and chill out.

Nothing is gonna happen.

The only time a full-on war is likely is if the little fat twat (or whoever pushes the button on his behalf) miscalculates and one of his little rockets drops short and lands on Japan. Other than that, like gweggy, he’s all pizz and wind……

Jong Un, heir to the throne of Kim, is only the ostensible “leader” of a cabal of Stalinists who run the ever more isolated state of North Korea. Those Stalinists have watched the one time “communist” world change to far less confrontational foreign policies.

Cuba is too far away, and too economically hamstrung to be much help, and it must be of some chagrin to the NK regime to find Chinese support and sympathy dwindling. At this time, NK is putting its shrinking resources into expensive military development.  A market for their rocketry and nuclear weapons exists and they may be gambling on that source of income to sure-up their failing state.
The NK Stalinists do not appear to be very imaginative, and whether they are seriously considering starting a war with the USA is hard to predict, but they may favour the idea. They know that a communist North Korea only exists due to their mountainous terrain which made conventional war difficult.

While advertising their technology with increasingly brazen missile and nuclear weapons tests, they may also hope to goad the USA into a first strike, gambling on the attack being conventional due to America public opinion opposing nuclear options. Any military action on the part of the USA would free NK to blitz South Korea, whom they could then hold to ransome, so to speak.

In the mean time, rocket launches and detonations give the illusion of a powerful regime that can taunt the USA as it pleases, which of course, appeals to all their customers, like Islamic Hamas, Islamic Iran, and even shadowier organisations.

red baron wrote on Sep 4^th, 2017 at 1:05pm:

Problem is Aussie that this 'kid' had the capability now to send a nuke to the U.S. (or multiple) How long do you think the U.S. will wait..until he is ready to go for the big one and drop nukes on U.S. mainland? Can't see it The next few weeks will be critical, the U.S. will be watching China's actions like a hawk We are literally on the precipice

He doesn't possess the rounds in the locker for an all-out with the US - unless his 'partners' come in as well..... and I sincerely doubt that Capitalist China and Mafia/Capitalist Russia are that interested these days.

Dropping one on the US is utterly stupid unless he is given full support by Russia and China, and both have now too much to lose due to the cultural assimilation war that brought them into the capitalist fold......  (How The East Was Won - not that movie about Siberia)...

Each time Jong Un tests an inter continental ballistic missile or does a nuclear test in North Korea countless millions of dollars are being spent

China has put a half choke hold on North Korea and following the Nuclear Test don't be surprised if they put the whole foot on North Korea's throat

Jong Un's options dwindle by the day

He may be just mad enough to actually attack someone

If he does it will be practically the last thing he does

The U.S. know where he is every minute of the day

One of the first things they would do is take him out

Because, without him the Country would fold like a deck of cards

The power bosses in North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela, have always liked to portray their countries as the victims of US imperialism which a surprising number of people actually believe. These are mostly dyed in the wool anti-American, who would still hate the USA if Bernie Sanders was President.

In reality the situation for the people in those three countries is of their own government's doing. Both the Chinese and the Soviets eventually figured this out, and decided getting rich was better than staying poor in the name of the glorious people liberation.

Thugs like King Kim and his friends probably know all this, but have dug themselves in so deep they only see one way out. That means creating a situation where they are seen to be the victims, without losing power. Trump could be their Ace in the Hole.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 5^th, 2017 at 10:31pm:

The power bosses in North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela, have always liked to portray their countries as the victims of US imperialism which a surprising number of people actually believe. These are mostly dyed in the wool anti-American, who would still hate the USA if Bernie Sanders was President. In reality the situation for the people in those three countries is of their own government's doing. Both the Chinese and the Soviets eventually figured this out, and decided getting rich was better than staying poor in the name of the glorious people liberation. Thugs like King Kim and his friends probably know all this, but have dug themselves in so deep they only see one way out. That means creating a situation where they are seen to be the victims, without losing power. Trump could be their Ace in the Hole.

I've come to the conclusion that everything NK is doing is actually a cry for help. They can't end it so they'll push and push to try and get outside forces to intervene.

how come we get these amazing shots of kim clapping his hands when a rocket manages to get off the launchpad.. yet not a word on how the North Korean people are taking all his aggressive actions...the Sth Koreans know whats happening so the Nth would know as well.....its as if all the people have disappeared....

Japan is evacuating 60,000 of its citizens out of South Korea.. '

North Korea is positioning another missile to the launch pad...

Dow Jones loses 200 points...  :-/

I'm quite worried where this is heading. Dying now wasn't in my plans.
Surely some agreed regime change is possible by Russian, Chinese & US special forces and in everybody's interest.

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 8:30am:

I'm quite worried where this is heading. Dying now wasn't in my plans. Surely some agreed regime change is possible by Russian, Chinese & US special forces and in everybody's interest.

Any discomfort to US foreign policy is OK with China and Russia. Whichever way it goes they can say "I told you so." As for regime change, look how well it went in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'd put money on the United States phuqing it up.

Hasn't China said that if the US strike first they will back NK but if the fat little fool strikes first that they will remain neutral?

I think one of his test missiles will miss their intended ocean mark and he will accidentally drop one on Japan.  Then all hell will break loose and NK will be turned to dust.

End of problem.

But it won't be the end of the problem, it will be the start of an awful.environmental disaster

A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 6^th, 2017 at 9:44pm:

A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days.

People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII.

capitosinora wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 9:40am:

issuevoter wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm: A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days. People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII.

So true. And that's why I think North Korea has every right to feel the way it does.

Hoax?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/850783/North-Korea-world-war-3-nuclear-test-South-Korea

Jasin wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 10:19am:

capitosinora wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:40am: issuevoter wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm: A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days. People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII. So true. And that's why I think North Korea has every right to feel the way it does.

It is not a case of North Korea defending itself, it is the Stalinist government headed by the heir to the Kim dynasty that is defending itself. The division between North and South is purely artificial. South Korea is a prosperous nation, and you cannot argue with results. The North has produced nothing in the years since the division. How anyone can spin this to make out that the South and their allies are the bad guys is the stuff of wacko conspiracy theorists. Even the Chinese and Russians gave up trying say the Western way was bad for the population. Take a look at the living standards of the two Koreas.

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 11:42am:

Hoax? http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/850783/North-Korea-world-war-3-nuclear-test-South-Korea

The Express is having a premature ejaculation. Leakage of radioactive vapour from an underground detonation is often delayed.

issuevoter wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 11:58am:

Fuzzball wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 11:42am: Hoax? http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/850783/North-Korea-world-war-3-nuclear-test-South-Korea The Express is having a premature ejaculation. Leakage of radioactive vapour from an underground detonation is often delayed.

It was South Korea who checked for radio active material and found none........maybe it is you who is the wanker?

issuevoter wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 11:50am:

Jasin wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 10:19am: capitosinora wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:40am: issuevoter wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm: A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days. People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII. So true. And that's why I think North Korea has every right to feel the way it does. It is not a case of North Korea defending itself, it is the Stalinist government headed by the heir to the Kim dynasty that is defending itself. The division between North and South is purely artificial. South Korea is a prosperous nation, and you cannot argue with results. The North has produced nothing in the years since the division. How anyone can spin this to make out that the South and their allies are the bad guys is the stuff of wacko conspiracy theorists. Even the Chinese and Russians gave up trying say the Western way was bad for the population. Take a look at the living standards of the two Koreas.

Yes well, South Korea doesn't have Sanctions against it does it?  ::)
As for Communist Stalinism - well this is where China might take it out eventually on Russia for starting the whole shemozzle, before becoming Capitalist itself.

Zimbabwe: Sanctions via Britain. Zimbabweans in support of Mugabe are looked after, while British supporters are left to starve ...not cared for by Britain (who stole Zimbabwean land).

issuevoter wrote on Sep 7^th, 2017 at 11:50am:

Jasin wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 10:19am: capitosinora wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:40am: issuevoter wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:44pm: A nuclear strike on NK would affect Eastern Russia, China, South Korea, and Japan. Due to atmospheric systems with a generally west to east flow, radioactive fall-out would affect Canada, USA, Hawaii, and Mexico within days. People of North Korea clearly are not a threat. They have no territorial ambitions. Simply their priority is survival and independence, and that is what has always driven the North Korean nuclear program. As they have pointed out, they have seen what happened to Iraq after Iraq allowed itself to be disarmed by the UN. They saw what happened to Libya after Libya gave up its nuclear program. They are determined to avoid the same fate. They also remember what happened to them during the Korean War, when over three million people were killed in that war. More towns and cities were destroyed by bombing in North Korea during the Korean War than in the whole of Japan or Germany during WWII. In fact, the US dropped more bombs on North Korea in the Korea War, than it dropped in the entire Pacific region during WWII. So true. And that's why I think North Korea has every right to feel the way it does. It is not a case of North Korea defending itself, it is the Stalinist government headed by the heir to the Kim dynasty that is defending itself. The division between North and South is purely artificial. South Korea is a prosperous nation, and you cannot argue with results. The North has produced nothing in the years since the division. How anyone can spin this to make out that the South and their allies are the bad guys is the stuff of wacko conspiracy theorists. Even the Chinese and Russians gave up trying say the Western way was bad for the population. Take a look at the living standards of the two Koreas.

Don't be Hypocritical.

The same as your Queen Elisabeth dynasty defending itself.

Or maybe she was democratically elected.