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Message started by Yadda on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:54pm

Title: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:54pm

Why shouldn't i, or any other Australian, openly criticise every moslem living in Australia,
......for being a moslem ?





1/ ISLAMIC law sanctions [makes 'lawful'] and encourages both hatred and the murder of those who reject ISLAM's strictures.

2/ Those religious tenets and doctrines of hatred and violence, are mainstream within the 'religion' of ISLAM.     e.g. Koran 60.4

3/ Every moslem, is, by definition, a follower of ISLAM.





We see moslems commonly, threaten violence against        anyone       whom moslems have 'deemed' to have 'offended' their religion.
e.g. anyone criticising moslem [open or veiled] threats of violence,      simply attracts further criticism and threats, from moslems [and their political allies], against those who are critical of this religious fascism.

Those things being true, why shouldn't i, and every other Australian, criticise every moslem living in Australia ?



Those things being true, why shouldn't our parliamentarians reasonably, agree to formulate a law, in Australia, that would allow all moslems living in Australia to be 1/ lawfully detained, and 2/ moved to internment camps [until their removal from Australia can be accomplished] ?

We need to do these things, in the interests of the national security and safety of the people, of Australia.

PROPOSITION;
The fact, that moslems are dangerous people who will commonly threaten to murder those who 'offend' them [i.e. threaten their material interests and ambitions], is not a good reason why we should shy away from seeking to undertake measures such as these !



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IMAGE...




THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"

"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"





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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1482184211/5#5

Quote:

Moslems are dangerous people.

Moslems are a danger to everyone who is not a moslem.

.....that is simply the nature of the beast.





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IMAGE...


Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Here we see the moslem community in Australia, demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.


QUESTION;
How many of those persons who took part in that moslem street protest in Sydney, Australia,          TO INCITE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, AND RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE, AND MURDER,         were ever identified, charged and brought before a court of law ? !!



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There are no 'innocent' moslems, in Australia, imo.

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

Every moslem, in Australia,        has chosen, and continues to choose, to give his allegiance to ISLAM.


Q.
Why do we allow these nefarious people [moslems] to live among us ?




Q.
Where are the mainstream media ?

Q.
Do the mainstream media in Australia, find nothing to criticise, in the 'religious precepts' which ISLAM openly promotes in the world today ?


THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:57pm
Go for your life as long as you dont complain my right to call you a idiot.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:05am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:57pm:

Go for your life as long as you dont complain my right to call you a idiot.



bojack,

Why don't you debate these points i made, and prove that i am mistaken ?



Quote:

1/ ISLAMIC law sanctions [makes 'lawful'] and encourages both hatred and the murder of those who reject ISLAM's strictures.

2/ Those religious tenets and doctrines of hatred and violence, are mainstream within the 'religion' of ISLAM.     e.g. Koran 60.4

3/ Every moslem, is, by definition, a follower of ISLAM.




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:20am
Everyone who holds up such a placard should be guilty of a hate crime.... and should suffer the full wrath of the law.

How would it go if I sat outside police headquarters with a placard saying - "Exterminate all who oppose me!"

Wouldn't last ten seconds.......

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:02am
Grappler, that would be an innocuous sign, offensive to nobody because it identifies nobody.
If you held your hat out you'd probably pick up some money.
The signs that Yadda shows, on the other hand, are not only specific, they are also threatening, intimidating. And a lot of people, me included, believe those threats are intended to be carried out in the fullness of time.
Bojack, in common with many people, would prefer to shut his eyes to them, even though the evidence of their intent is demonstrated every other day somewhere in the world, hoping it won't come to pass on his home turf and that somehow it will all go away.

Good luck with that one Bojack.
Keep up the fight for truth Yadda.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by cods on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:58am
thats a bit of a stretch yadda....

its really only the extremists that live by what appears to be HATE RULES....I dont think your every day muslim is like that...not every jew is orthodox  come on   you sound extreme  when you make silly demands like this.

have we had those placards since?????...


I dont believe so....

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:48am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:02am:
Grappler, that would be an innocuous sign, offensive to nobody because it identifies nobody.
If you held your hat out you'd probably pick up some money.
The signs that Yadda shows, on the other hand, are not only specific, they are also threatening, intimidating. And a lot of people, me included, believe those threats are intended to be carried out in the fullness of time.
Bojack, in common with many people, would prefer to shut his eyes to them, even though the evidence of their intent is demonstrated every other day somewhere in the world, hoping it won't come to pass on his home turf and that somehow it will all go away.

Good luck with that one Bojack.
Keep up the fight for truth Yadda.



Well apart from cherrypicked pictures and poorly formatted blogs, what has Yadda shown.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:53am

cods wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:58am:
thats a bit of a stretch yadda....

its really only the extremists that live by what appears to be HATE RULES....I dont think your every day muslim is like that...not every jew is orthodox  come on   you sound extreme  when you make silly demands like this.

have we had those placards since?????...


I dont believe so....



I can't believe I'm agreeing with Cods. Yadda constantly posts like this in order to portray an entire population with this BS. I'm not arguing that there is a small minority of extremists who act like this, but to suggest all Muslims are like this is like saying all White Aussies are like those Reclaim Australia numpties.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:18am

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:02am:
Grappler, that would be an innocuous sign, offensive to nobody because it identifies nobody.
If you held your hat out you'd probably pick up some money.
The signs that Yadda shows, on the other hand, are not only specific, they are also threatening, intimidating. And a lot of people, me included, believe those threats are intended to be carried out in the fullness of time.
Bojack, in common with many people, would prefer to shut his eyes to them, even though the evidence of their intent is demonstrated every other day somewhere in the world, hoping it won't come to pass on his home turf and that somehow it will all go away.

Good luck with that one Bojack.
Keep up the fight for truth Yadda.


Do a John Howard (the way I described it at the time) and hand out leaflets on a street corner saying we should invade Iraq.... most people would laugh and walk on.... but as PM?  He lead the nation to war.. what a hero....

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Aussie on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:21am
Yadda is there anything in your OP you have not said (and in exactly the same order and fashion) a zillion times before?

As for your question.....sure, provided you are quite happy that I may openly criticise every Roman Catholic.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:22am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:53am:

cods wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:58am:
thats a bit of a stretch yadda....

its really only the extremists that live by what appears to be HATE RULES....I dont think your every day muslim is like that...not every jew is orthodox  come on   you sound extreme  when you make silly demands like this.

have we had those placards since?????...


I dont believe so....



I can't believe I'm agreeing with Cods. Yadda constantly posts like this in order to portray an entire population with this BS. I'm not arguing that there is a small minority of extremists who act like this, but to suggest all Muslims are like this is like saying all White Aussies are like those Reclaim Australia numpties.


Trouble is that when they get in a crowd like that, mass hysteria takes over and anything could happen.... would you feel safe walking past such a gathering, even though most in it were 'moderate Muslims'?

I was once walking to the RSL at night, and a "Take Back The Night" gathering was on - and the cops politely suggested I go a different way so as not to incur the manic wrath of all these "victim women and children" ..... after all - they are only moderates, and victims to boot, and don't just willy-nilly attack any man going past....

Mob hysteria and a sense of righteousness in a 'cause'......

BTW - has the hysteria behind the placards gone away?

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:42am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:48am:

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:02am:
Grappler, that would be an innocuous sign, offensive to nobody because it identifies nobody.
If you held your hat out you'd probably pick up some money.
The signs that Yadda shows, on the other hand, are not only specific, they are also threatening, intimidating. And a lot of people, me included, believe those threats are intended to be carried out in the fullness of time.
Bojack, in common with many people, would prefer to shut his eyes to them, even though the evidence of their intent is demonstrated every other day somewhere in the world, hoping it won't come to pass on his home turf and that somehow it will all go away.

Good luck with that one Bojack.
Keep up the fight for truth Yadda.



Well apart from cherrypicked pictures and poorly formatted blogs, what has Yadda shown.


Your response reinforces exactly what I said.
Eyes wide shut.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:56am

cods wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:58am:

thats a bit of a stretch yadda....

1/ its really only the extremists that live by what appears to be HATE RULES....  no, it is not!


2/ I dont think your every day muslim is like that...   yes, every moslem 'is like that'


3/ have we had those placards since?????...   yes we have

I dont believe so....




and bojack this morning....

Quote:

Yadda constantly posts like this in order to portray an entire population with this BS.




cods,

Every moslem, is, by definition, a follower of ISLAM.

You insistently want to deny that undeniable truth.


The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.
    - Winston Churchill




cods,

A moslem is a person who HAS GIVEN, and CONTINUES TO GIVE, this affirmation to his own community;

"I am a moslem. Allah is my god, and Mohammed is his messenger."

A moslem, is a person who has chosen, and continues to choose,
to give his allegiance to ISLAM.


cods,

I can't decide if you are simply, a very naive person, or, a very deceitful person.




cods,

You assert;

"it is only the extremists that live by what appears to be HATE RULES"

No cods, every moslem living in Australia,        BY BEING A MOSLEM,        is aligning himself with, what you refer to as 'HATE RULES'.

again....

The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it. Ignorance may deride it. But in the end, there it is.
    - Winston Churchill





cods,

Those 'HATE RULES' are 100% mainstream ISLAM.

Q.
Why do you insistently deny that truth,
when so much proof is available AND APPARENT, which confirms that circumstance ?






cods,

You ask, 'have we had those 'placards' since' ?

Yes, we have had those 'placards' since !!!

Those 'placards' ['a sign for display'] have been on display - WITHIN AUSTRALIA - 1/ within the homes of moslem children in Australia and, 2/ at the gatherings of moslems, 'practicing' ISLAM, behind closed doors, in Australia.

Where ?

I present evidence of two recent examples, in Australia, of moslems promoting and brandishing those 'HATE RULES', here in Australia.

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EXAMPLE #1,

Watch good 'Aussie' moslems,      practicing ISLAM      behind closed doors.....

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Muslims brainwash children in Australia  -------- >   goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E





EXAMPLE #2,

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14

Quote:

'Teacher quits after primary school students threaten to behead her'

QUESTION;
Where do moslem children living in Australia get these ideas from ?





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Hey cods, i am going to say it,     ......imo, you are a very 'crooked' woman.

I do not trust your 'bonafides'.        .....as an 'honest broker' in this debate about moslems.

There is something very 'amiss' with you, imo.



Here is one for you....

Nat King Cole - Straighten Up & Fly Right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVaP6dM1fs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fVaP6dM1fs



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:46pm

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:42am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 9:48am:

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 8:02am:
Grappler, that would be an innocuous sign, offensive to nobody because it identifies nobody.
If you held your hat out you'd probably pick up some money.
The signs that Yadda shows, on the other hand, are not only specific, they are also threatening, intimidating. And a lot of people, me included, believe those threats are intended to be carried out in the fullness of time.
Bojack, in common with many people, would prefer to shut his eyes to them, even though the evidence of their intent is demonstrated every other day somewhere in the world, hoping it won't come to pass on his home turf and that somehow it will all go away.

Good luck with that one Bojack.
Keep up the fight for truth Yadda.



Well apart from cherrypicked pictures and poorly formatted blogs, what has Yadda shown.


Your response reinforces exactly what I said.
Eyes wide shut.




My eyes are wide open, I can see the cherrypicked pictures and poorly formatted blogs, clearly.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:05pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 12:46pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 10:42am:

Your response reinforces exactly what I said.
Eyes wide shut.



My eyes are wide open, I can see the cherrypicked pictures and poorly formatted blogs, clearly.




Everyday we can see the extent of the deceit, which emanates from the moslem man and woman.




"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....


And pigs might fly - in Barcelona.




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QUESTION;
But what about all of the peaceful moslems who live among us, and who [seemingly] pose no threat to us ?

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Quote:

Violent jihad may be postponed not out of concern for its victims, but rather if it might adversely affect a Muslim community.
- Saher Fares

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10263/grooming-jihadists


Moslems are engaged in a cruel and never ending war against us,
because we are not moslems !!!

And, moslems, will seek to safeguard their community, until they can gather enough strength to deliver a devastating blow, upon the enemies of Allah.



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Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims

London, Sept.8 [2007]

A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.

Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....

He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece




Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"





Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."


http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine




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Quote:

July 28, 2006
Islamic Dictionary for Infidels

...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself:

"Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them"
(Qur'an 3:28).

In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."


Google




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Moslems themselves [as their strength and their confidence in their own malevolent intent towards us grows], are begining to openly declare that intent.



IMAGE.....


"We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah and we are not ashamed of that,..."



Quote:

By Nicolai Sennels on May 31, 2017 09:02 am

The real cause of Islamic terrorism: “We are motivated by our religion, by our Qur’an and Sunnah”

Every time a new jihad attack strikes innocents in the West, media and politicians get busy blaming “bad integration,” “poverty,” “marginalization,” “racism,” etc.

For some reason, it never occurs to them to ask if Islamic terrorism has anything to do with Islam and the increasing number of followers of this particular religion in our countries......

https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/05/the-real-cause-of-islamic-terrorism-we-are-motivated-by-our-religion-by-our-quran-and-sunnah






WAKE UP PEOPLE !


In inviting moslems to live among us, we have grasped a treacherous and poisonous serpent to our very heart !



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:14pm
Because of this:

Luke 6:37:  Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Yadda you have a choice.  You can overcome your own fears and hatred.  Instead of hating your perceived enemy, you should love and forgive. 



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by BigOl64 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:29pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Because of this:

Luke 6:37:  Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Yadda you have a choice.  You can overcome your own fears and hatred.  Instead of hating your perceived enemy, you should love and forgive. 



Thank fkk we are not all dumb sh1t christians, standing around waiting to be killed.



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Aussie on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:30pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Because of this:

Luke 6:37:  Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Yadda you have a choice.  You can overcome your own fears and hatred.  Instead of hating your perceived enemy, you should love and forgive. 

Whaaaaaaaat!    Act sort of...um.......er........agh...........Christian like????????

Really?  How truly bizarre!

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:40pm

BigOl64 wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:29pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Because of this:

Luke 6:37:  Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Yadda you have a choice.  You can overcome your own fears and hatred.  Instead of hating your perceived enemy, you should love and forgive. 



Thank fkk we are not all dumb sh1t christians, standing around waiting to be killed.


No, the verses suggest that you should not judge?  And should forgive?  Where does it say stand around waiting to be killed?

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:01pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
WAKE UP PEOPLE !


In inviting moslems to live among us, we have grasped a treacherous and poisonous serpent to our very heart !



In all honesty Yadda, I'd have more faith in the average Muslim, than in an extremist such as yourself.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:07pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
WAKE UP PEOPLE !


In inviting moslems to live among us, we have grasped a treacherous and poisonous serpent to our very heart !



In all honesty Yadda, I'd have more faith in the average Muslim,

than in an extremist such as yourself.



LOL

What an absurd, suggestion that is.

.....when moslems, in Australia, in threatening to murder non-moslems,
.....were simply following the        lawful        strictures of their religion.  !!!!!

i.e.
They are being        good       moslems !!



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IMAGE...


Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Here we see the moslem community in Australia, demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.


QUESTION;
How many of those persons who took part in that moslem street protest in Sydney, Australia,          TO INCITE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, AND RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE, AND MURDER,         were ever identified, charged and brought before a court of law ? !!



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There are no 'innocent' moslems, in Australia, imo.

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

Every moslem, in Australia,        has chosen, and continues to choose, to give his allegiance to ISLAM.


Q.
Why do we allow these nefarious people [moslems] to live among us ?





Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by red baron on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:13pm
One day his Country will wake up to the fact that they have a monstrous problem, on their hands with the Moslems in this Country

They grow ever stronger and each year the Government adds fuel to the fire by importing a couple of hundred thousand of them

They breed like whites never would breed and to see families with 8 or 9 Moslem kids is the norm. This is the 'white ant' solution that will one day see them out number us

When they grow strong enough, be it fifty years time there will be a day of reckoning for madness of our forefathers in importing a culture totally alien to this Country


Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:17pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:14pm:
Because of this:

Luke 6:37:  Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Yadda you have a choice.  You can overcome your own fears and hatred.  Instead of hating your perceived enemy, you should love and forgive. 




"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....


And pigs might fly - in Barcelona.




tickleandrose,

Denials, by moslems, is not a proof of any veracity [honesty] on the part of a moslem.

All moslems, every moslem, are the children of Belial.



But if i have accused the moslem falsely, then you or others can make your argument here.

And show me my error, for everyone to see.



tickleandrose,

You quote the scripture which admonishes;

Do not judge


tickleandrose,

And here is more scripture.....

Romans 12:9
.....Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.


Q.
How can i 'Abhor that which is evil',
....unless i exercise judgement in order to determine if something is evil [in my eyes] ?

Q.
How am i to identify 'that which is good',
....if i am unwilling to exercise judgement between one thing and other ?




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/2#2

Quote:

And if you are a person who is "tolerant" of evil behaviour, DON'T KID YOURSELF,
...God hates you.



Q.
Does my God, want me to be tolerant of liars, and to be tolerant of wicked people ?

Or, does my God, want me to separate myself from liars, and wicked people ?

I have to decide, i have to make a judgement,    ...on that.



2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial [with LIARS]? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.



I must one day stand before my God.

I will be judged by God,       and if i am one of those children of Belial, let it be done unto me also.


'....one of those children of Belial' ?
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1503284227/16#16




Psalms 82:1
God standeth in the congregation of the mighty; he judgeth among the gods.
2  How long will ye judge unjustly, and accept the persons of the wicked? Selah.
3  Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.
4  Deliver the poor and needy: rid them out of the hand of the wicked.
5  They know not, neither will they understand; they walk on in darkness: all the foundations of the earth are out of course.




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Aussie on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:20pm

red baron wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
One day his Country will wake up to the fact that they have a monstrous problem, on their hands with the Moslems in this Country

They grow ever stronger and each year the Government adds fuel to the fire by importing a couple of hundred thousand of them

They breed like whites never would breed and to see families with 8 or 9 Moslem kids is the norm. This is the 'white ant' solution that will one day see them out number us

When they grow strong enough, be it fifty years time there will be a day of reckoning for madness of our forefathers in importing a culture totally alien to this Country


More hysterical horseshit.

Link.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:21pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:07pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 2:01pm:

Yadda wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 1:05pm:
WAKE UP PEOPLE !


In inviting moslems to live among us, we have grasped a treacherous and poisonous serpent to our very heart !



In all honesty Yadda, I'd have more faith in the average Muslim,

than in an extremist such as yourself.



LOL

What an absurd, suggestion that is.

.....when moslems, in Australia, in threatening to murder non-moslems,
.....were simply following the        lawful        strictures of their religion.  !!!!!

i.e.
They are being        good       moslems !!



.




IMAGE...


Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Here we see the moslem community in Australia, demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.


QUESTION;
How many of those persons who took part in that moslem street protest in Sydney, Australia,          TO INCITE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, AND RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE, AND MURDER,         were ever identified, charged and brought before a court of law ? !!



.




There are no 'innocent' moslems, in Australia, imo.

Every moslem in Australia, is a moslem.

Every moslem, in Australia,        has chosen, and continues to choose, to give his allegiance to ISLAM.


Q.
Why do we allow these nefarious people [moslems] to live among us ?




Again formatting, dude. And you may think it absurd. I think it perfectly reasonable to assume not every single Muslim is out to get me.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:38pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:21pm:

And you may think it absurd.

I think it perfectly reasonable to assume not every single Muslim is out to get me.



Oh, good oh!      giggle, giggle, giggle.

/sarc off




IMAGE...


Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:
How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior
January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong


"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/



.




Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims

London, Sept.8 [2007]

A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war.

Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle.

A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain.
Polite and softly spoken....

He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece




Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"





Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."


http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:45pm
I'm assuming Osama bin Laden could format.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:46pm

Aussie wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

red baron wrote on Sep 5th, 2017 at 3:13pm:
One day his Country will wake up to the fact that they have a monstrous problem, on their hands with the Moslems in this Country

They grow ever stronger and each year the Government adds fuel to the fire by importing a couple of hundred thousand of them

They breed like whites never would breed and to see families with 8 or 9 Moslem kids is the norm. This is the 'white ant' solution that will one day see them out number us

When they grow strong enough, be it fifty years time there will be a day of reckoning for madness of our forefathers in importing a culture totally alien to this Country


More hysterical horseshit.

Link.


Beats me how you drive a cab Aussie, your vision being what it is.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 5th, 2017 at 11:03pm
re Yadda


Quote:
tickleandrose,

You quote the scripture which admonishes;

Do not judge


tickleandrose,

And here is more scripture.....

Romans 12:9
.....Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good.


Q.
How can i 'Abhor that which is evil',
....unless i exercise judgement in order to determine if something is evil [in my eyes] ?

Q.
How am i to identify 'that which is good',
....if i am unwilling to exercise judgement between one thing and other ?


Now, you are pushing into going back to my bible class in high school.  Yadda, you have quoted 12:9 roman, and specifically about abhor evil and cling to good.  However, to fully understand this, you need to read the entire passage.   And here it is:

Love in Action - Roman: 9 to 20

9 Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10 Be devoted to one another in love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11 Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12 Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13 Share with the Lord’s people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

14 Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15 Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.[c] Do not be conceited.

17 Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone. 18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”[d] says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

“If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”[e]

21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

So, the prophet's words is for all to see.  Even if you come to hate evil, even if you come to believe someone is evil.  As christians, we should not repay anyone (ANYONE, including your perceived children of Blial) evil with evil.  But rather, feed him, offer him drink.  And it finally ends with "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good". 

Yadda, for as long as humanity can remember, we have being fighting tooth for tooth, evil for evil.  This resulted in countless death and suffering.  We should not be part of that.  If we follow the words of god, then we should over come evil with good.  Its more easier to strike down someone you hate, rather than to save them.  However, faith will give you the strength to do what is truly the word of a benevolent god. 

Now, back to the original point.  Does then 20:9 justrifies judging on your behalf, as you mentioned that all Muslims are children of Blial.  I believe it is indirectly addressed in 20:19

Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,”

In this passage, I believe it is stated clearly that it is god's job to judge and to deliver wrath.  And it is true.  We are mere mortals.  We only see what our eyes ears wanted.  We do not know the full circumstance or truth in someone elses behavior.  And above all, do you yadda believe that your judgement is as insightful as our lord?  Or do you seek to judge others on behalf of god?   And this is precisely why the other passages of the bible specifically advised us NOT to judge. 

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:01am


tickleandrose,

Thank you for your thoughtful response, in,
Reply #28


snippets....

1/ 'Be devoted to one another in love.'

2/ 'Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.'

3/ 'And it finally ends with "Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good".'

4/ 'over come evil with good. It is very difficult. It is easy to hate, to promote hate, and to give into fear.'




my response to those snippets....

1/ Is speaking truthfully, an unloving act [i.e. is warning moslems, by accusing moslems, an unloving act] ?   Explain to me how a parent rebuking [for example] a cruel child, is an unloving act on the part of the parent.        Q. Is it an unloving act, if that child recognises his error and repents ?

2/ 'Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.'     And can that be accomplished, if speaking truthfully, is 'unwelcome' by moslems ?

3/ Truthfulness is love, and truthfulness is good-ness.

4/ 'over come evil with good.'    yes! over come evil with truthfulness.
and,
4/ 'It is easy to hate, to promote hate,'    Q. Should i regard truthfulness, and what truthfulness exposes, as an act of hatred ?     Perhaps you would say; yes ?  I would hope not!




tickleandrose,

Q.
Whenever we see, truthfulness,        that is 'in the face' of great evil,
is that truthfulness to be regarded by us, as 'hatred' ?

Is truthfulness then, to be denied by us,       and transformed, by us, into a form of 'hatred' ?

God forbid!

i.e.
When those [who live in our 'company', or live in our 'community'] are accused by truthfulness,            should we then, choose to recoil, and choose to abandon truthfulness,
in order to avoid offending those who are, and feel themselves, accused by truthfulness ?





John 3:19
And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20  For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21  But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.





bojack,

tickleandrose,

Why don't you debate these points i made [in my OP], and prove that i am mistaken ?



Quote:

1/ ISLAMIC law sanctions [makes 'lawful'] and encourages both hatred and the murder of those who reject ISLAM's strictures.

2/ Those religious tenets and doctrines of hatred and violence, are mainstream within the 'religion' of ISLAM.     e.g. Koran 60.4

3/ Every moslem, is, by definition, a follower of ISLAM.




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by UnSubRocky on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:02am
I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make not only themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Valkie on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:00am

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:02am:
I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make not only themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.


Religious belief is a personal thing
Something that some use as a crutch, but others use as strenth.

Its when a CULT like islam comes along and creates no end of problems that anyone questions religion.

For the last 200 years religion and religious freedom has done nothing but strengthen Australia.

Only now, sonce the DEVILS CULT has come along, do people question or even fall away from all religion

If I was the devil, I would introduce a CULT that causes rage and hatred.
I woukd use this CULT to instill fear and breed distrust.
I would make this CULT brutal, primitive and corrupt so as to attract all the worst that society has shunned, the murderers, the pedophiles, the evil.

And here we have it the CULT OF EVIL ISLAM

The solution

ELIMINATE IT

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:16pm
re Yadda


Quote:
1/ Is speaking truthfully, an unloving act [i.e. is warning moslems, by accusing moslems, an unloving act] ?   Explain to me how a parent rebuking [for example] a cruel child, is an unloving act on the part of the parent.        Q. Is it an unloving act, if that child recognises his error and repents ?

2/ 'Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everyone.'     And can that be accomplished, if speaking truthfully, is 'unwelcome' by moslems ?

3/ Truthfulness is love, and truthfulness is good-ness.


Some very good points.  When a parents rebuke a cruel child. a parent usually sees what he or she have done, And often the matter is quiet simple.   However, the act of accusing all of Muslims as evil, is in my opinion unjustified, and not so simple.  I.e. why I suggest the reason precisely why the bible have taught us not to judge others. 

Is then truthfulness is love?  Well, I think it depends.  In your case, you firmly believe that all muslims are children of Belial.  And wanted me to provide evidence to the contrary.  Well, who do you think you are?  Able to see through the lives of 22% of Earth population, and make a fair judgement on all of them.  It is no different than Muslim extremists labelling anyone who is not a muslim a infidel.   

Do not also forget, a parent is not always right.  We are all mortals.  Our mind only want to see and hear what we want to.  And so, when a parent makes a mistake, that parent need to apologize to the child and then read the passage on the bible about judging others.


Quote:
4/ 'over come evil with good.'    yes! over come evil with truthfulness.
and,
4/ 'It is easy to hate, to promote hate,'    Q. Should i regard truthfulness, and what truthfulness exposes, as an act of hatred ?     Perhaps you would say; yes ?  I would hope not! 


No, overcome evil with good.  Like, what the passage in the bible have suggested, give them food if they are hungry, water if they are thirsty.  In this regard, we need not take things out of context.


Quote:
1/ ISLAMIC law sanctions [makes 'lawful'] and encourages both hatred and the murder of those who reject ISLAM's strictures.

2/ Those religious tenets and doctrines of hatred and violence, are mainstream within the 'religion' of ISLAM.     e.g. Koran 60.4

3/ Every moslem, is, by definition, a follower of ISLAM.


The issue is that yadda, you have already made up your mind in this regard.  Therefore, no matter what I say (in which i did in great detail explained about terrorism have very little to do with religion, and everything to do with politics and war), or give any more evidence, you will not believe me anyway  So, thereafore, I quoted those passages in my post to let you see what a true Christian should do even if you are met with enemies. 

I would have preferred it if somehow, you can be convinced that Muslims are not children of Bilial.  I guess, ultimately, you will find out the truth when you face your own judgement.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:44pm

Valkie wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:00am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:02am:
I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make not only themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.


Religious belief is a personal thing
Something that some use as a crutch, but others use as strenth.

Its when a CULT like islam comes along and creates no end of problems that anyone questions religion.

For the last 200 years religion and religious freedom has done nothing but strengthen Australia.

Only now, sonce the DEVILS CULT has come along, do people question or even fall away from all religion

If I was the devil, I would introduce a CULT that causes rage and hatred.
I woukd use this CULT to instill fear and breed distrust.
I would make this CULT brutal, primitive and corrupt so as to attract all the worst that society has shunned, the murderers, the pedophiles, the evil.

And here we have it the CULT OF EVIL ISLAM

The solution

ELIMINATE IT




Valkie, you little devil you!!!


Q.
How to 'eliminate' ISLAM ?


I would suggest, by exposing ISLAM and the followers of ISLAM to truthful scrutiny and criticism.


ATM, imo, many people [in nations like Australia] are giving ISLAM and its followers a 'pass',
because         they        WE, WE, WE,        are unwilling to criticise the vileness that is ISLAM,
and the vileness and violence that is practiced by moslems.

And why is that so ???!!!!


A.
Because ISLAM and moslems, hide their vileness behind a cloak of lies and falsehood.



And very few of us, it seems, are willing to unveil that vileness of ISLAM, by TELLING THE TRUTH, ABOUT WHAT ISLAM IS, AND ABOUT WHAT ISLAM PROMOTES IN THE WORLD.



WE NEED TO UNVEIL THE BAREFACED LIES OF MOSLEMS!

WE NEED TO EXPOSE ISLAM, FOR WHAT IT IS,         .....a deceitful, vicious, murderous DEATH CULT.




--------- >


Muslims being deceptive Islam EX-Muslims       goto 4m 30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZx8cNSC9O0




.




Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

---------- >



Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT
KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE

"...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems."

"....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God."
"...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God."
"...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM."
"...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does."
"...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]"
"...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:47pm
Its a broken record.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:51pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:47pm:

Its a broken record.



No.

It is a drum,        ......AND I'M BEATING IT,      AND BEATING IT !


Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 6th, 2017 at 1:44pm
Then you;'re a ringo starr type of drummer.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 6th, 2017 at 3:17pm

Valkie wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:00am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:02am:
I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make not only themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.


Religious belief is a personal thing
Something that some use as a crutch, but others use as strenth.

Its when a CULT like islam comes along and creates no end of problems that anyone questions religion.

For the last 200 years religion and religious freedom has done nothing but strengthen Australia.

Only now, sonce the DEVILS CULT has come along, do people question or even fall away from all religion

If I was the devil, I would introduce a CULT that causes rage and hatred.
I woukd use this CULT to instill fear and breed distrust.
I would make this CULT brutal, primitive and corrupt so as to attract all the worst that society has shunned, the murderers, the pedophiles, the evil.

And here we have it the CULT OF EVIL ISLAM

The solution

ELIMINATE IT


Close down the mosques?

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by tickleandrose on Sep 6th, 2017 at 3:27pm

Valkie wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:00am:

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:02am:
I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make not only themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.


Religious belief is a personal thing
Something that some use as a crutch, but others use as strenth.

Its when a CULT like islam comes along and creates no end of problems that anyone questions religion.

For the last 200 years religion and religious freedom has done nothing but strengthen Australia.

Only now, sonce the DEVILS CULT has come along, do people question or even fall away from all religion

If I was the devil, I would introduce a CULT that causes rage and hatred.
I woukd use this CULT to instill fear and breed distrust.
I would make this CULT brutal, primitive and corrupt so as to attract all the worst that society has shunned, the murderers, the pedophiles, the evil.

And here we have it the CULT OF EVIL ISLAM

The solution

ELIMINATE IT


Nah, I think this is what you think the devil would do.  But remember, the Devil had been opposing God for a LONG time, and I do not think he is that foolish.  No... I think the devil would work in more clever ways. 

If I am the devil, I will distort Gods message.  Instead of being inclusive, I will make people think that they are special, and that they are the only true ways.  This, will drive people into different groups.  And then I will make smaller groups to make trouble between those groups in the name of larger groups.  And then in doing so, causing large scale war and devastation between the larger groups.  Each thinks that they are the right ones. 

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:12pm
Ya gotta admit - the Twentieth Century was all his!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jARp24AJWLk

Tomorrow will be worse.......

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:43pm

tickleandrose wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 3:27pm:

Nah, I think this is what you think the devil would do.....

If I am the devil, I will distort Gods message.


Instead of being inclusive, I will make people think that they are special, and that they are the only true ways.

This, will drive people into different groups.



And then I will make smaller groups to make trouble between those groups in the name of larger groups.

And then in doing so, causing large scale war and devastation between the larger groups.

Each thinks that they are the right ones. 



LOL

Yeah, coz God loves everyone tickleandrose,       even the 'workers of iniquity'.      ....NOT!



Sorry tickleandrose,     but God isn't that inclusive.   !!!

Scripture, time and time again, states that our God is exclusive.




Malachi 3:14
Ye have said, It is vain to serve God: and what profit is it that we have kept his ordinance, and that we have walked mournfully before the LORD of hosts?
15  And now we call the proud happy; yea, they that work wickedness are set up; yea, they that tempt God are even delivered.
16  Then they that feared the LORD spake often one to another: and the LORD hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the LORD, and that thought upon his name.
17  And they shall be mine, saith the LORD of hosts, in that day when I make up my jewels; and I will spare them, as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.
18  Then shall ye return, and discern between the righteous and the wicked, between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.



Yes tickleandrose,

Jesus died, as a hope, to the repentant.     [...those who are remorseful, for their poor choices]

But not as a hope to un-repentent 'workers of iniquity'.



1 Corinthians 6:9
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10  Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


2 Corinthians 6:14
Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
15  And what concord hath Christ with Belial [with LIARS]? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?
16  And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
17  Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,
18  And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty.


Revelation 22:9
Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God.
10  And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.
11  He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12  And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
14  Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
15  For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.


Q.
Does God ever say in scripture, that lairs and murderers and wicked people, are OK by him ?



'Called and chosen'


Matthew 20:16
....for many be called, but few chosen.


Revelation 17:13
These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14  These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.


Matthew 7:13
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14  Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.


Luke 13:23
Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24  Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25  When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, Lord, Lord, open unto us; and he shall answer and say unto you, I know you not whence ye are:
26  Then shall ye begin to say, We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets.
27  But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity.


tickleandrose,

And the scripture says, 'depart from me, all ye' who ???

Inclusive, or, exclusive ?



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:51pm

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:12pm:
Ya gotta admit - the Twentieth Century was all his!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jARp24AJWLk

Tomorrow will be worse.......



Great movie scene!!!



Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Frank on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:54pm
Criticise Islam before it becomes compulsory.

Being gay is about to be the norm for human relationships, so don't let Islam to copy the gays.


Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Ye Grappler on Sep 6th, 2017 at 7:07pm

Frank wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 6:54pm:
Criticise Islam before it becomes compulsory.

Being gay is about to be the norm for human relationships, so don't let Islam to copy the gays.



With the default being Fifty Shades of Gay - what's left for the rest?

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Dnarever on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:20pm
Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....

Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims who would prefer to be on our side to become radicalised instead..

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by buzzanddidj on Sep 6th, 2017 at 9:14pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 4th, 2017 at 11:57pm:
Go for your life as long as you dont complain my right to call you a idiot.



I'd JOIN you - were I not for the fact I was banned for a week, for exposing our "village idiot" in residence, by Ozpolitic's most right-wing moderator
This was long before Yadda took up the honorary position




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by freediver on Sep 6th, 2017 at 10:50pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....

Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims who would prefer to be on our side to become radicalised instead..


Are you worried Gandalf is going to turn into a terrorist? And this would be Yadda's fault?

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:34pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....

Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims who would prefer to be on our side to become radicalised instead..



Your argument is,           that if i don't openly associate moslems, with being the followers of a deceitful, treacherous, vicious, murderous DEATH CULT,
the 'upside' for me is, that some moslems may be willing to pretend to be my friend ?


LOL



Dnarever,

Here is the honest truth.....

I would much rather, have an open enemy,
....rather than a false, treacherous friend.






IMAGE...




THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"

"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"





.





IMAGE...







.




IMAGE...


Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Here we see the moslem community in Australia, demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.


QUESTION;
How many of those persons who took part in that moslem street protest in Sydney, Australia,          TO INCITE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, AND RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE, AND MURDER,         were ever identified, charged and brought before a court of law ? !!


Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:44am
Do my eyes deceive me?
No they don't.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 7th, 2017 at 7:13pm

UnSubRocky wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 12:02am:
I don't understand Islam, and I don't understand religion. Why the hell would people want to place undue restrictions on their lives to the point that they make.....themselves miserable, but anyone around them? Quite happy for them to live in the desert away from society and practice their misery. But they should not be moving to civilisation with their crap gutter religion and have society clean up after them.



unsub,

'Religion' is [should be] about          a recognition, in the human psyche, of the consequence of cause and effect in our life.    [......imo]

People who have no interest in identifying and differentiating between cause and effect in their life tend to have little time for reflection [or, for 'religion'].

They are people who only want to know where and when, the next rave is on.

They are people who tend 'to go where angels fear to tread', in my experience.

And then when they get clobbered by a 4 x 2, or some other such misfortune, in their life,
you tend to hear them scream at full voice.....

"Why the %$#@! did that happen!!!!"




.




Proverbs 1:22
How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge?


Proverbs 8:5
O ye simple, understand wisdom: and, ye fools, be ye of an understanding heart.


Proverbs 9:6
Forsake the foolish, and live; and go in the way of understanding.


Proverbs 10:23
It is as sport to a fool to do mischief: but a man of understanding hath wisdom.


Proverbs 16:22
Understanding is a wellspring of life unto him that hath it: but the instruction of fools is folly.




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Dnarever on Sep 7th, 2017 at 8:29pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 11:34pm:

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....

Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims who would prefer to be on our side to become radicalised instead..



Your argument is,           that if i don't openly associate moslems, with being the followers of a deceitful, treacherous, vicious, murderous DEATH CULT,
the 'upside' for me is, that some moslems may be willing to pretend to be my friend ?


Please don't tell me what my argument is when you clearly have no idea ????

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:10pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:20pm:

Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....



Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims           who would prefer to be on our side

to become radicalised instead..




Dnarever wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 8:29pm:

Please don't tell me what my argument is when you clearly have no idea ????



Dnarever,

Q.
If i accuse moslems being the followers of a deceitful, treacherous, vicious, murderous DEATH CULT, why would those moslems be inclined to become radicalised ?

Q.
Why couldn't those moslems simply enter into debate with me, and tell me that i am wrong,
and simply seek to convince me that ISLAM is a religion of peace ?




"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....



Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off





Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Yadda on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:48pm

Yadda wrote on Sep 7th, 2017 at 9:10pm:

Q.

Why couldn't those moslems simply enter into debate with me, and tell me that i am wrong,
and simply seek to convince me that ISLAM is a religion of peace ?



IMAGE.....


Many 'infidels' have learned, that asking a moslem to be reasonable, is a futile request.




.




IMAGE...




THOSE PLACARDS, AT A MOSLEM STREET PROTEST, 2006, IN LONDON READ.....

"Slay those who insult Islam"
"Behead those who insult Islam"
"Massacre those who insult Islam"
"Butcher those who mock Islam"

"Europe you will pay, demolition is on its way"
"Europe you will pay, extermination is on its way"
"Exterminate those who slander Islam"
"Europe is the cancer, Islam is the answer"
"Islam will dominate the world"
"Freedom go to hell"
"Europe take some lessons from 9/11"
"Be prepared for the real Holocaust"
"BBC = British Blasphemic Crusaders"





.





IMAGE...







.




IMAGE...


Sydney, 2012, moslem street protests.

Here we see the moslem community in Australia, demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems,        religious bigots,         'demonstrating', just how 'peaceful' ISLAM and moslems really are.

Moslems demanding their 'human right' to exercise the 'freedom of religion' of the moslem.

THE RIGHT OF THE MOSLEM [which is set out within ISLAMIC law!], to kill people who do not believe as they [moslems] believe.


QUESTION;
How many of those persons who took part in that moslem street protest in Sydney, Australia,          TO INCITE RELIGIOUS BIGOTRY, AND RELIGIOUS VIOLENCE, AND MURDER,         were ever identified, charged and brought before a court of law ? !!




Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:00am
Keep going Ringo

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by Valkie on Sep 9th, 2017 at 2:57pm

Dnarever wrote on Sep 6th, 2017 at 8:20pm:
Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....

Well it is probably the best method you can use to make sure that you personally influence the maximum possible number of Muslims who would prefer to be on our side to become radicalised instead..


There are none on our side.

So there is nothing to be concerned about.

The main thing to remember is

HEAD SHOTS ARE BEST.

Title: Re: Why shouldn't i openly criticise every moslem.....
Post by bogarde73 on Sep 10th, 2017 at 6:16am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 8th, 2017 at 11:00am:
Keep going Ringo


Nothing of substance in that response. Empty response from an empty head.
Is it don't want to say anything about the placards revealing an evil belief system or can't?

Try and make it more than 3 or 4 words. You can do it.

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