The US Navy reports detecting a metal heat source at depth of 230 m which is believed to be the missing Argentine sub. A sonic contact has also been made.
It will be now be a race to effect a rescue as oxygen is close to being exhausted.

Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue.

just wait, it won't be long before the conspironuts start blaming aliens, china or russia  :D :D

Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine.

Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent.

Their time is up apparently.

It'll be a collision with an underwater alien craft, as happened to the USS Thresher.... them damned things travel like 100 kph underwater and ain't nothin' stoppin' them!

... not jinxed for having a women onboard ?

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____ wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 5:25am:

Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue.

It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this.

Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal.

mothra wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:47am:

Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent.

and you think I follow you around..


:o :o :o :o

some mothers do av em!

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 5:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal.

awful stuff all the same.. how many on board??.....I remember seeing a film on this very thing   I have been claustrophobic ever since?   its being buried alive..

just a shocker........dont know about you herb   but I could never go on a sub...

What a terrible thing to be trapped under the ocean in a tin can. Those poor brave men.

Sharma wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 7:00pm:

What a terrible thing to be trapped under the ocean in a tin can. Those poor brave men.

There should be suicide pills issued to every submariner.

you would think in this day and age it would be impossible to lose a submarine..

cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 7:35pm:

you would think in this day and age it would be impossible to lose a submarine..

They're the spaceships of the ocean.

Sharma wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 7:00pm:

What a terrible thing to be trapped under the ocean in a tin can. Those poor brave men.

Precisely why I never wanted to join the navy - I could not see myself deep underwater and hopeless or floating in the sea hopeless.

On the other hand... I would be happy to be associated with any aircraft.... on a carrier.... the most vulnerable and most attack-worthy modern ship of war.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 5:00pm:

____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal.

They have both, Herbie.  The German Type 209 Class variant created for India, the Shishumar class submarine has an escape pod under it's weather deck.  No other submarines have them.  All submarines have buoys which can be released by the crew and float to the surface - if they have time and if the release mechanism is working properly.  They have had them since the 1930s in the Royal Navy and since WWII in NATO navies.    However, accidents underwater can be sudden and catastrophic. HMS Affray, an "A-class" submarine was lost in 1951.  Tragically, her buoy was wired shut, preventing it's release because it had come loose earlier.   I'd recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on her loss.  It makes sobering reading.

Gordon wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 7:40pm:

cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 7:35pm: you would think in this day and age it would be impossible to lose a submarine.. They're the spaceships of the ocean.

why not a simple tracking device in peace time ??..

at the end of the day its still a machine and every day things for wrong with machines....

think of the families at home waiting all this time.....

:'( :'( :'(

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:00pm: ____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal. They have both, Herbie.  The German Type 209 Class variant created for Indian, the Shishumar class submarine has an escape pod under it's weather deck.  No other submarines have them.  All submarines have buoys which can be released by the crew and float to the surface - if they have time and if the release mechanism is working properly.  They have had them since the 1930s in the Royal Navy and since WWII in NATO navies.    However, accidents underwater can be sudden and catastrophic. HMS Affray, an "A-class" submarine was lost in 1951.  Tragically, her buoy was wired shut, preventing it's release because it had come loose earlier.   I'd recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on her loss.  It makes sobering reading.

is it at all possible for a whole crew to be rendered unconscious like we have heard  happening with  aircraft?...... the silence must be unspeakable.

I see where the RAF is also involved in the search.,....

well done  and lets hope they are all rewarded with a rescue..

cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

why not a simple tracking device in peace time ??..

the whole point of submarines is that the potential enemy not be able to track them

::)

cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:49pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:45pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:00pm: ____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal. They have both, Herbie.  The German Type 209 Class variant created for Indian, the Shishumar class submarine has an escape pod under it's weather deck.  No other submarines have them.  All submarines have buoys which can be released by the crew and float to the surface - if they have time and if the release mechanism is working properly.  They have had them since the 1930s in the Royal Navy and since WWII in NATO navies.    However, accidents underwater can be sudden and catastrophic. HMS Affray, an "A-class" submarine was lost in 1951.  Tragically, her buoy was wired shut, preventing it's release because it had come loose earlier.   I'd recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on her loss.  It makes sobering reading. is it at all possible for a whole crew to be rendered unconscious like we have heard  happening with  aircraft?...... the silence must be unspeakable.

The conditions on board a submarine are cramped and space is severely limited.  If you have the chance, Cods, go on board one of the submarines in Darling Harbour.   It will tell you a great deal about the sort of people who man them.

Yes, an entire crew can be rendered unconscious through foul air.  As the submarines run on lead-acid batteries while submerged, there is a danger of Chlorine gas - if the acid comes into contact with sea-water it produces Chlorine gas.  While the battery compartment is much better sealed than it was in yesteryears, it is still a danger. In the case of the Argentine submarine, it appears to have suffered a battery fire, which would prevent them from being able to use their air scrubbers to clean the air and remove the CO^2 which would have built up.   CO^2 poisoning is insidious and renders it's victims unconscious within a few minutes to a few hours (depending on the concentration).

cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 6:11pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:47am: Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent. and you think I follow you around.. :o :o :o :o some mothers do av em!

I'd sincerely like to know why you haven't asked Bogey what he expects us to do about it.

mothra wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 10:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:11pm: mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:47am: Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent. and you think I follow you around.. :o :o :o :o some mothers do av em! I'd sincerely like to know why you haven't asked Bogey what he expects us to do about it.

Moths trolling and trashing a serious thread. Why am I not surprised?

Both NASA and the US Navy are involved in the search as well as other countries. Russia has had serious submarine mishaps. I wonder if they have offered to help?

AiA wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 11:07pm:

Moths trolling and trashing a serious thread. Why am I not surprised?

No. That's what you lot do.

Watch now, this thread will become all about me .. then you'll all say:

"Oooooh Mothballs is making it all about her again" ...

... then tell me which one of you i'm supposed to be in love with.

I've been paying attention.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 10:21pm:

cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:49pm: Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:45pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:00pm: ____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal. They have both, Herbie.  The German Type 209 Class variant created for Indian, the Shishumar class submarine has an escape pod under it's weather deck.  No other submarines have them.  All submarines have buoys which can be released by the crew and float to the surface - if they have time and if the release mechanism is working properly.  They have had them since the 1930s in the Royal Navy and since WWII in NATO navies.    However, accidents underwater can be sudden and catastrophic. HMS Affray, an "A-class" submarine was lost in 1951.  Tragically, her buoy was wired shut, preventing it's release because it had come loose earlier.   I'd recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on her loss.  It makes sobering reading. is it at all possible for a whole crew to be rendered unconscious like we have heard  happening with  aircraft?...... the silence must be unspeakable. The conditions on board a submarine are cramped and space is severely limited.  If you have the chance, Cods, go on board one of the submarines in Darling Harbour.   It will tell you a great deal about the sort of people who man them. Yes, an entire crew can be rendered unconscious through foul air.  As the submarines run on lead-acid batteries while submerged, there is a danger of Chlorine gas - if the acid comes into contact with sea-water it produces Chlorine gas.  While the battery compartment is much better sealed than it was in yesteryears, it is still a danger. In the case of the Argentine submarine, it appears to have suffered a battery fire, which would prevent them from being able to use their air scrubbers to clean the air and remove the CO^2 which would have built up.   CO^2 poisoning is insidious and renders it's victims unconscious within a few minutes to a few hours (depending on the concentration).

no way would I ever go one  the subbies have my utter respect and admiration...no way jose!..

the thought of slow suffocation  sends shivers through me.......

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:45pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:00pm: ____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal. They have both, Herbie.  The German Type 209 Class variant created for India, the Shishumar class submarine has an escape pod under it's weather deck.  No other submarines have them.  All submarines have buoys which can be released by the crew and float to the surface - if they have time and if the release mechanism is working properly.  They have had them since the 1930s in the Royal Navy and since WWII in NATO navies.    However, accidents underwater can be sudden and catastrophic. HMS Affray, an "A-class" submarine was lost in 1951.  Tragically, her buoy was wired shut, preventing it's release because it had come loose earlier.   I'd recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on her loss.  It makes sobering reading.

Will do, Brian.

mothra wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 10:23pm:

cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:11pm: mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:47am: Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent. and you think I follow you around.. :o :o :o :o some mothers do av em! I'd sincerely like to know why you haven't asked Bogey what he expects us to do about it.

well some of us feel a great deal of sympathy for not only the sailors but all their loved ones who would be  in the excruciating world of the unknown..... :( :( :(

then again a few of us more concerned with their own welfare it appears.

not one word about this appalling situation..not ONE WORD..

3 posts and they have not a thing to do with this topic..



do you think submariners feel PAIN?....
>:( >:( >:( >:(

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 5:33am:

no way would I ever go one  the subbies have my utter respect and admiration...no way jose!.. the thought of slow suffocation  sends shivers through me.......

It gets incredibly cold down there too as they're waiting to suffocate slowly. Cyanide pills set into every submariner's wisdom tooth is the answer. Or a capsule of Nembutal.

Submariners get a lot more pay than ordinary surface sailors.

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 5:43am:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:33am: no way would I ever go one  the subbies have my utter respect and admiration...no way jose!.. the thought of slow suffocation  sends shivers through me....... It gets incredibly cold down there too as they're waiting to suffocate slowly. Cyanide pills set into every submariner's wisdom tooth is the answer. Or a capsule of Nembutal. Submariners get a lot more pay than ordinary surface sailors.

it would take a special kind of person I would think..

like old time coal miners....I could not do it....  :(

this is horrible just horrible...

waiting! :'(

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 5:41am:

mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 10:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:11pm: mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:47am: Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent. and you think I follow you around.. :o :o :o :o some mothers do av em! I'd sincerely like to know why you haven't asked Bogey what he expects us to do about it. well some of us feel a great deal of sympathy for not only the sailors but all their loved ones who would be  in the excruciating world of the unknown..... :( :( :( then again a few of us more concerned with their own welfare it appears. not one word about this appalling situation..not ONE WORD.. 3 posts and they have not a thing to do with this topic.. do you think submariners feel PAIN?.... >:( >:( >:( >:(

Yeah Cods but in any thread i start, demand to know what i think thing people can do about it.

I would like to know what you think Bogey expects us to do about these poor unfortunate souls.

Is it a tough question?

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 6:11am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:43am: cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:33am: no way would I ever go one  the subbies have my utter respect and admiration...no way jose!.. the thought of slow suffocation  sends shivers through me....... It gets incredibly cold down there too as they're waiting to suffocate slowly. Cyanide pills set into every submariner's wisdom tooth is the answer. Or a capsule of Nembutal. Submariners get a lot more pay than ordinary surface sailors. it would take a special kind of person I would think.. like old time coal miners....I could not do it....  :( this is horrible just horrible... waiting! :'(

Couldn't think of anything worse to be honest 😢

Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 5:39am:

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:45pm: Lord Herbert wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:00pm: ____ wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 5:25am: Battery fire 8 days ago. Me think it's a recovery, rather than a rescue. It just illustrates how pathetic the submarine design is for dealing with situations of emergency like this. Days would have been saved if there was a simple device that is released from the hull of the submarine that then shoots up to the surface from where it transmits a signal. They have both, Herbie.  The German Type 209 Class variant created for India, the Shishumar class submarine has an escape pod under it's weather deck.  No other submarines have them.  All submarines have buoys which can be released by the crew and float to the surface - if they have time and if the release mechanism is working properly.  They have had them since the 1930s in the Royal Navy and since WWII in NATO navies.   However, accidents underwater can be sudden and catastrophic. HMS Affray, an "A-class" submarine was lost in 1951.  Tragically, her buoy was wired shut, preventing it's release because it had come loose earlier.   I'd recommend you read the Wikipedia entry on her loss.  It makes sobering reading. Will do, Brian.

👍

Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub.

AiA wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 11:07pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 10:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:11pm: mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:47am: Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent. and you think I follow you around.. :o :o :o :o some mothers do av em! I'd sincerely like to know why you haven't asked Bogey what he expects us to do about it. Moths trolling and trashing a serious thread. Why am I not surprised?

its what she does- every time- started on Pge 1

mothra wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:47am:

Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent.

8-)

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:

Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub.

i would rather they shoot me out of the torpedo tube than wait to die in a tin can

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:

Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub.

I quite agree. It is absolutely the stuff of nightmares. I hope for rescue for these poor unfortunate souls.

It's just that Cods trols every thread i start with demands on me of what i expect people to do about it.

She doesn't seem to do it to anyone else.

I'm just curious as to why.

mothra wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:06pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 5:41am: mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 10:23pm: cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 6:11pm: mothra wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 9:47am: Look out Bogey! Cods will be asking you what you've done about it and whether or not it's our submarine. Just kidding. She's nowhere near consistent. and you think I follow you around.. :o :o :o :o some mothers do av em! I'd sincerely like to know why you haven't asked Bogey what he expects us to do about it. well some of us feel a great deal of sympathy for not only the sailors but all their loved ones who would be  in the excruciating world of the unknown..... :( :( :( then again a few of us more concerned with their own welfare it appears. not one word about this appalling situation..not ONE WORD.. 3 posts and they have not a thing to do with this topic.. do you think submariners feel PAIN?.... >:( >:( >:( >:( Yeah Cods but in any thread i start, demand to know what i think thing people can do about it. I would like to know what you think Bogey expects us to do about these poor unfortunate souls. Is it a tough question?

listen troll just contribute or get lost-

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:17pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:12pm: Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub. I would rather they shoot me out of the torpedo tube than wait to die in a tin can

The way you fvvken whinge, you'd have been 'shot out of a torpedo tube' well before the sub had problems.........

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:17pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:12pm: Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub. I would rather they shoot me out of the torpedo tube than wait to die in a tin can The way you fvvken whinge, you'd have been 'shot out of a torpedo tube' well before the sub had problems.........

given that 99.9 percent of your comments are you simply bitching about members you don't like, I'm not sure you're in any real position to comment.

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

listen troll just contribute or get lost-

same to you fungus, contribute or get lost

little hope they would be found alive now- but they may have reserves of oxygen on board- all we can do is keep our fingers crossed- and thank you Bogarde73 for bringing this to our attention even if none of can actually rescue them- we ought to know about these men even if they dont have eyes on stalks like a prawn!!!!

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:22pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:19pm: listen troll just contribute or get lost- same to you fungus, contribute or get lost

having you as a wingman is very unfortunate indeed

mothra wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:19pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:12pm: Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub. I quite agree. It is absolutely the stuff of nightmares. I hope for rescue for these poor unfortunate souls. It's just that Cods trols every thread i start with demands on me of what i expect people to do about it. She doesn't seem to do it to anyone else. I'm just curious as to why.

I'd like to have the power to solve everybody's problems, truly I would.
But I just am not the Chosen One.
Them's the breaks.

Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole!

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:24pm:

mothra wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:19pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:12pm: Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub. I quite agree. It is absolutely the stuff of nightmares. I hope for rescue for these poor unfortunate souls. It's just that Cods trols every thread i start with demands on me of what i expect people to do about it. She doesn't seem to do it to anyone else. I'm just curious as to why. I'd like to have the power to solve everybody's problems, truly I would. But I just am not the Chosen One. Them's the breaks.

As i am in full awareness of this, you will note that i addressed my question to the person i do believe can solve my problem .. or is that her problem?

To you, i merely offered an explanation.

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:20pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:17pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:12pm: Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub. I would rather they shoot me out of the torpedo tube than wait to die in a tin can The way you fvvken whinge, you'd have been 'shot out of a torpedo tube' well before the sub had problems.........

;D ;D ;D

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:24pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:22pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:19pm: listen troll just contribute or get lost- same to you fungus, contribute or get lost having you as a wingman is very unfortunate indeed

lucky then that I'm not anyone's wingman ...

unlike you, I am capable of making up my own mind and making my own arguments. Just because you need to run to cods and body odour , with bobby on the side, for support every time you say something stupid.

serious question now, are you bi polar? you should see a shrink.

[quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote

I hardly know what to say

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:12pm:

Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub.

Oh I agree.

Dreadful stuff! 😱

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:25pm:

Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole!

What?

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:28pm:

[quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say

No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.

Exactly

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:27pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:20pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:17pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:12pm: Well it's not as if Bogey expects anything of anyone. I just posted it because it's one of those awful tragedies at sea and I can't think of anything much worse than clinging to life in a sunken disabled sub. I would rather they shoot me out of the torpedo tube than wait to die in a tin can The way you fvvken whinge, you'd have been 'shot out of a torpedo tube' well before the sub had problems ;D ;D ;D

Sorry Bogey but you gotta admit....that was 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.

 
;D ;D

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D

betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:30pm:

bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.

Why did you remove the "Ford" from your original comment?

That had me interested.

Who were you on Yahoo?

mothra wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos. Why did you remove the "Ford" from your original comment? That had me interested. Who were you on Yahoo?

a

why should anyone answer to  you - ? and you are not even mentioning the comment made to Smith is that because its true?

mothra wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:54pm:

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos. Why did you remove the "Ford" from your original comment? That had me interested. Who were you on Yahoo?

it's lisa playing games ... she's the only nutter to think that I'm fordy.  ;D ;D ;D

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:53pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo

you'd have to find it first

...god rest their souls..

Verse 1: Eternal Father, strong to save,
Whose arm hath bound the restless wave,
Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep
Its own appointed limits keep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

Verse 2: O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard
And hushed their raging at Thy word,
Who walked'st on the foaming deep,
And calm amidst its rage didst sleep;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

Verse 3: Most Holy Spirit! Who didst brood
Upon the chaos dark and rude,
And bid its angry tumult cease,
And give, for wild confusion, peace;
Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee,
For those in peril on the sea!

Verse 4: O Trinity of love and power!
Our brethren shield in danger's hour;
From rock and tempest, fire and foe,
Protect them wheresoe'er they go;
Thus evermore shall rise to Thee
Glad hymns of praise from land and sea.


:'( :'( :'( :'(

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 1:52pm:

Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D

WTF is an arse torpedo????

🤔

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cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:22pm:

...god rest their souls.. Verse 1: Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm hath bound the restless wave, Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep Its own appointed limits keep; Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea! Verse 2: O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard And hushed their raging at Thy word, Who walked'st on the foaming deep, And calm amidst its rage didst sleep; Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea! Verse 3: Most Holy Spirit! Who didst brood Upon the chaos dark and rude, And bid its angry tumult cease, And give, for wild confusion, peace; Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea! Verse 4: O Trinity of love and power! Our brethren shield in danger's hour; From rock and tempest, fire and foe, Protect them wheresoe'er they go; Thus evermore shall rise to Thee Glad hymns of praise from land and sea. :'( :'( :'( :'(

Sorry Cods for my earlier comment and thank you for posting that.

You're a good soul.

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:05pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first

you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately


you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar?

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar?

Seriously, is your 'torpedo' tiny?  ;D ;D ;D

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:37pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar? Seriously, is your 'torpedo' tiny?  ;D ;D ;D

Why? are you looking to move your nose from my arse to my dick?

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:29pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:22pm: ...god rest their souls.. Verse 1: Eternal Father, strong to save, Whose arm hath bound the restless wave, Who bidd'st the mighty ocean deep Its own appointed limits keep; Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea! Verse 2: O Christ! Whose voice the waters heard And hushed their raging at Thy word, Who walked'st on the foaming deep, And calm amidst its rage didst sleep; Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea! Verse 3: Most Holy Spirit! Who didst brood Upon the chaos dark and rude, And bid its angry tumult cease, And give, for wild confusion, peace; Oh, hear us when we cry to Thee, For those in peril on the sea! Verse 4: O Trinity of love and power! Our brethren shield in danger's hour; From rock and tempest, fire and foe, Protect them wheresoe'er they go; Thus evermore shall rise to Thee Glad hymns of praise from land and sea. :'( :'( :'( :'( Sorry Cods for my earlier comment and thank you for posting that. You're a good soul.

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:43pm:

Sorry Cods for my earlier comment and thank you for posting that. You're a good soul.

not really I have links to the sea..

and I feel a little respect for what must sheer terror just for their families and friends back home....

thats all.

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:42pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:37pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar? Seriously, is your 'torpedo' tiny?  ;D ;D ;D Why? are you looking to move your nose from my arse to my dick?

Why does it stink as much as your woppy stench-trench?

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:50pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:42pm: Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:37pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar? Seriously, is your 'torpedo' tiny?  ;D ;D ;D Why? are you looking to move your nose from my arse to my dick? Why does it stink as much as your woppy stench-trench?

you keep your nose up my arse and then complain it stinks?

Not the sharpest tack are you.  :D :D :D

https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/engines-equipment/submarine2.htm

It is said here that they only have 7 days supply of oxygen  :-[ :'(
Quote:

How Submarines Work BY MARSHALL BRAIN & CRAIG FREUDENRICH, PH.D.     Life Support There are three main problems of life support in the closed environment of submarine: Maintaining the air quality Maintaining a fresh water supply Maintaining temperature Maintaining the Air Quality The air we breathe is made up of significant quantities of four gases: Nitrogen (78 percent) Oxygen (21 percent) Argon (0.94 percent) Carbon dioxide (0.04 percent) When we breathe in air, our bodies consume its oxygen and convert it to carbon dioxide. Exhaled air contains about 4.5 percent carbon dioxide. Our bodies do not do anything with nitrogen or argon. A submarine is a sealed container that contains people and a limited supply of air. There are three things that must happen in order to keep air in a submarine breathable: Oxygen has to be replenished as it is consumed. If the percentage of oxygen in the air falls too low, a person suffocates. Carbon dioxide must be removed from the air. As the concentration of carbon dioxide rises, it becomes a toxin. The moisture that we exhale in our breath must be removed. Oxygen is supplied either from pressurized tanks, an oxygen generator (which can form oxygen from the electrolysis of water) or some sort of "oxygen canister" that releases oxygen by a very hot chemical reaction. (You may remember these canisters because of their problems on the MIR space station -- see this page for details). Oxygen is either released continuously by a computerized system that senses the percentage of oxygen in the air, or it is released in batches periodically through the day. Carbon dioxide can be removed from the air chemically using soda lime (sodium hydroxide and calcium hydroxide) in devices called scrubbers. The carbon dioxide is trapped in the soda lime by a chemical reaction and removed from the air. Other similar reactions can accomplish the same goal

it may have exploded-

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-24/sound-heard-in-argentina-submarine-search-comes-from-explosion/9187028

well surely they would expect debris ... they would  know where to look..

this is like the missing plane mh370..

its extreme... everything about it is extreme odd unusual..they would have the very best there looking...yet nothing..

Are they dead?

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 3:20pm:

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:50pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:42pm: Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:37pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar? Seriously, is your 'torpedo' tiny?  ;D ;D ;D Why? are you looking to move your nose from my arse to my dick? Why does it stink as much as your woppy stench-trench? you keep your nose up my arse and then complain it stinks? Not the sharpest tack are you.  :D :D :D

But Jack, you're the one who posts about 'arses & dicks'........(I should say tiny dicks)......and you're the idiot in this little village .........just ask anyone.......

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:48pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:43pm: Sorry Cods for my earlier comment and thank you for posting that. You're a good soul. not really I have links to the sea.. and I feel a little respect for what must sheer terror just for their families and friends back home.... thats all.

👍

Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 7:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 3:20pm: Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:50pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:42pm: Fuzzball wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:37pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately you didn't answer my question ... seriously, are you bi polar? Seriously, is your 'torpedo' tiny?  ;D ;D ;D Why? are you looking to move your nose from my arse to my dick? Why does it stink as much as your woppy stench-trench? you keep your nose up my arse and then complain it stinks? Not the sharpest tack are you.  :D :D :D But Jack, you're the one who posts about 'arses & dicks'........(I should say tiny dicks)......and you're the idiot in this little village .........just ask anyone.......

you're not good at the comprehension thing are you?  :D :D

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 7:20pm:

cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:43pm: Sorry Cods for my earlier comment and thank you for posting that. You're a good soul. not really I have links to the sea.. and I feel a little respect for what must sheer terror just for their families and friends back home.... thats all. 👍

I dont know what this thread is about anymore lisa...

do you have any idea?...

:(

cods wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 7:30pm:

Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 7:20pm: cods wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:48pm: Lisa Jones wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:43pm: Sorry Cods for my earlier comment and thank you for posting that. You're a good soul. not really I have links to the sea.. and I feel a little respect for what must sheer terror just for their families and friends back home.... thats all. 👍 I dont know what this thread is about anymore lisa... do you have any idea?... :(

I know.

Here's something for you though Cods 💐🌻🌺🌸🌷🌹

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 2:34pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately

Not likely dude - its hard to obsess over something that's  non existent

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 9:04pm:

John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately Not likely dude - its hard to obsess over something that's  non existent

the only thing non existent is your brain

you haven't answered my question

Are you bipolar?

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 9:07pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 9:04pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:34pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 2:05pm: John Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:53pm: Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:52pm: Betty Smith wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:30pm: bogarde73 wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 1:28pm: [quote author=Betty_Smith link=1511378464/45#45 date=1511493938]Fire in the hole! Fire in the hole![/quote I hardly know what to say No worries! It's John Smith who loves arse torpedos.   ;D ;D betty knows from experience, she bends over all the time for my torpedo you'd have to find it first you're obsessed with my genitals aren't you? it's all you ever go on about lately Not likely dude - its hard to obsess over something that's  non existent the only thing non existent is your brain you haven't answered my question Are you bipolar?

if you are sane antman then yes I am no question about it-

and a point to note you didnt deny you have no d**k

Not missing... lost for good with all its crew.... stories of an underwater explosion...

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 10:26pm:

Not missing... lost for good with all its crew.... stories of an underwater explosion...

I am unsure why everybody suggests this is a case of "explosion".   I heard the Argentine Navy spokesman use the word "implosion" when describing what they had heard.   "Implosion" makes a great deal more sense, as it appears the submarine has sunk below it's crush depth.   In that case, the submarine would have been crushed by the ocean pressure.  It would not have "exploded".    ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 11:08pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 10:26pm: Not missing... lost for good with all its crew.... stories of an underwater explosion... I am unsure why everybody suggests this is a case of "explosion".   I heard the Argentine Navy spokesman use the word "implosion" when describing what they had heard.   "Implosion" makes a great deal more sense, as it appears the submarine has sunk below it's crush depth.   In that case, the submarine would have been crushed by the ocean pressure.  It would not have "exploded".    ::)

Jesus. What a way to go.

My thoughts to those who love them. They're going to need a lot of love.

Agnes wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 9:15pm:

then yes I am no question about it-

that explains a lot


you should seek help. Ask them to boost your medication

John Smith wrote on Nov 24^th, 2017 at 11:58pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 24th, 2017 at 9:15pm: then yes I am no question about it- that explains a lot you should seek help. Ask them to boost your medication

Cover your hairy man-hooters, John, before you make us all sick ...

I thought an implosion was more likely than an explosion and sadly it seems I was not so wrong after all.

The Argentine Navy is now admitting that the snorkel was leaking, which caused the battery to short-circuit. It seems they switched to the unaffected battery and carried on. Presumably at some point the snorkel must have failed completely and the sub sank. It possible some may have survived if they had time to seal off compartments but the volume of water would have quickly overwhelmed the crew. ::)

An edited report I received from a US Sub Forum.   

"NALYSIS OF ACOUSTIC DETECTION OF THE
LOSS OF THE ARGENTINE SUBMARINE SAN JUAN
By Bruce Rule
An analytical review of all information released by the Comprehensive Nuclear-Test-Ban Treaty Organization on the acoustic signal associated with the loss of the Argentina Submarine ARA SAN JUAN confirms the following:
That acoustic signal originated near 46-10S, 59-42W at 1358Z (GMT) on 15 November 2017. It was produced by the collapse (implosion) of the ARA SAN JUAN pressure-hull at a depth of 1275-feet. Sea pressure at the collapse depth was 570 PSI. The frequency of the collapse event signal (bubble-pulse) was about 4.4 Hz.

The energy released by the collapse was equal to the explosion of 12,500 pounds of TNT at the depth of 1275-feet. That energy was produced by the nearly instantaneous conversion of potential energy (sea-pressure) to kinetic energy, the motion of the intruding water-ram which entered the SAN JUAN pressure-hull at a speed of about 1800 mph.
The entire pressure-hull was completely destroyed (fragmented/compacted) in about 40 milliseconds (0.040s or 1/25th of a second), the duration of the compression phase of the collapse event which is half the minimum time required for cognitive recognition of an event.

Although the crew may have known collapse was imminent, they never knew it was occurring. They did not drown or experience pain. Death was instantaneous.

The SAN JUAN wreckage sank vertically at an estimated speed between 10 and 13 knots. Bottom impact would not have produced an acoustic event detectable at long range.

The open question is: why was no corrective action - such as blowing ballast - taken by the SAN JUAN crew before the submarine sank to collapse depth? According to Argentine Navy spokesman Gabriel Galeazzi, the Commanding Officer of the SAN JUAN reported a "failure" in the submarine's "battery system," The time of that report was 0730 on 15 November, assumed to have been GMT. Subsequently, the problem was reported to have been "fixed." The SAN JUAN intended to submerged and continued its transit north. The SAN JUAN pressure-hull collapsed at 1358 GMT on 15 November.

may God Bless their SOULS.. :'( :'(

my heart goes out to their families and friends..

Justsayno wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:47pm:
Brian Ross wrote on Nov 22nd, 2017 at 5:03pm:
He was a quiet kid who thought about matters much more than most kids would, at any age.


You have stated in the past you only had two daughters!

how do you explain that BS?


Do you have a problem with what you have previously stated BS?

Argentina abandons rescue mission for missing submarine crew

Where was this submarine built... dare one ask????

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARA_San_Juan_(S-42)

West Germany... diesel/electric - a quiet boat and relatively cheap compared to nuclear.... lightweight bow .. hmmm ... massive modifications.... hmmm....

cods wrote on Nov 23^rd, 2017 at 9:46pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 7:40pm: cods wrote on Nov 23rd, 2017 at 7:35pm: you would think in this day and age it would be impossible to lose a submarine.. They're the spaceships of the ocean. why not a simple tracking device in peace time ??.. at the end of the day its still a machine and every day things for wrong with machines.... think of the families at home waiting all this time..... :'( :'( :'(

Submarines rely on stealth and remaining hidden - no point letting the world know where you are... besides, even in 'peacetime', there are various operations going on, surveillance, monitoring, the occasional (though rare) sneaky insertion of SF troops, remaining on station for the possibility of an outbreak of war..... the world isn't always a healthy place with all those dratted humans on it.... always looking for trouble....