Michael Flynn’s guilty plea Friday to a single count of making false statements to the FBI about conversations with Russia's ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak, does not bode well for the Trump administration and for the president and his family personally

Flynn, who briefly served as President Trump’s national security adviser and earlier was involved in the Trump presidential campaign and presidential transition team, promised full cooperation with Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election.

The White House continues to maintain that Flynn does not have any information that could implicate or incriminate President Trump


Court documents show Flynn told investigators that a “very senior member” of the Trump transition team directed him to contact foreign governments, including Russia, about a United Nations vote.

There is now for the first time the hint of evidence that there was potentially collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and that this collusion may have been carried out at the highest level.

And Fox News reported: “While it is unclear who Flynn himself is prepared to name, Fox News has been told by a former senior intelligence officer with knowledge of Trump transition activities that then-President-Elect Trump directed Flynn during that period to contact the Russians – while also directing him and his team to contact 12 other countries.”

As a result, there is now for the first time the hint of evidence that there was potentially collusion between the Trump campaign and the Russian government, and that this collusion may have been carried out at the highest level.

To be sure, this is one side of the story. President Trump had repeatedly said there was no such collusion. So has the president’s son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner. Some have speculated that Kushner is the unnamed “senior member” of the transition team who directed Flynn to make foreign contacts.
But if there is anyone who can show that there potentially was collusion it is Flynn.

Indeed, the fact that Flynn has only been charged with one count is remarkable, given that all evidence suggests that he has apparently colluded with the Russians himself during the 2016 presidential campaign. Not to mention his history of concealing work that he did for the Turkish government and working on behalf of Russia while advising Trump’s campaign.

Just consider the laundry list of allegations made against the retired Army lieutenant general.

First, Flynn failed to disclose the more than $500,000 he received from a Turkish businessman and crony of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan for lobbying and research work that his firm – Flynn Intel Group, Inc. – did to discredit an exiled cleric who Erdogan wants returned to Turkey from the U.S.

And Flynn wrote an op-ed on behalf of Turkey – headlined “Our ally Turkey is in crisis and needs our support” – while he was working for candidate Trump.

Even more disquieting, Flynn is under investigation for a meeting during which he allegedly discussed a plan for him and his son to receive $15 million in exchange for kidnapping the exiled cleric.

Lying to the FBI about his conversations with the Russian ambassador in December 2016 is just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to Flynn’s Russian ties. He also failed to list payments from Russia-linked entities on the first of two federal financial disclosure forms he was required to fill out to become national security adviser. Nor did he list the speeches he was paid to deliver by Russian state-owned television network RT.

As the first former administration official who has been charged as part of Mueller’s Russia investigation, the charges against Flynn alone make it difficult to distance President Trump from Mueller’s probe.

And now that Flynn is cooperating with the FBI and is prepared to testify, he has effectively brought the special counsel’s investigation onto the White House front lawn.

Based on my own experience working on campaigns, it is very well within the realm of possibility that President Trump was aware – if not responsible for – Flynn’s communications with the Russians over the course of the 2016 presidential campaign. But this possibility remains unproven, as far as we know from what has been made public.

Anyone who has worked on a presidential campaign knows that most important rule is that you always tell your principal what you are doing. So it is entirely plausible that Flynn’s communications could have been carried out at the direction of a senior member of the Trump campaign team, if not the candidate himself. We don’t know what Mueller and his team know, so whether this happened remains to be established in the public record

It is certainly questionable that Flynn stayed in touch with the Russians while he was on the campaign trail without candidate Trump knowing about it, as the White House maintains 

Now that Flynn is expected to testify against the president, what he did or did not do with Donald Trump will now be the critical issue going forward.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/12/01/why-flynn-s-guilty-plea-is-bad-news-for-team-trump.html

And this all comes from Trumps favourite TV network - Foxnews.


So, trumptards, what do you think of Fox dissing on their own?

I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere.

Do you want more????

http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/12/01/judge-napolitano-michael-flynn-guilty-plea-could-lead-constitutional-crisis

This is another far-right clown from FoxNews - Judge Napolitano - who himself says that Trump is in very serious trouble including impeachment and indictment.


Fox is giving up on Trump...

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:03pm:

I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere.

because 'better' doesnt mean 'one-sided'.  It is also supposed to be OPEN and OFFICIAL.

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:12pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. because 'better' doesnt mean 'one-sided'.

As opposed to Hillary being openly hostile to Russia. That's going to help world peace hey?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:13pm:

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:12pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. because 'better' doesnt mean 'one-sided'. As opposed to Hillary being openly hostile to Russia. That's going to help world peace hey?

Russia invaded Crimea. Russia shot down a passenger plane. Russia has threatened to invade eastern Europe. Russia has interfered in elections in USA and France and others.

There comes a time to be openly hostile to your enemies or do you not understand that?  You sound like a 'peace in our time' kind of moron.

Jesus! Are you poor Lefties STILL on about this?

;D

Pathetically aggrieved losers clutching at straws while wailing "We wuz robbed!"

How long has it been now since Trump was elected? And did any of you cry babies shout "FOUL!" when it was later learnt that Bill Clinton's presidential campaign had been hugely funded by Communist China? Not at all!

Fox is part of the swamp. If you want the truth, you need to watch Alex Jones on YouTube.

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:18pm:

Jesus! Are you poor Lefties STILL on about this? ;D Pathetically aggrieved losers clutching at straws while wailing "We wuz robbed!" How long has it been now since Trump was elected? And did any of you cry babies shout "FOUL!" when it was later learnt that Bill Clinton's presidential campaign had been hugely funded by Communist China? Not at all!

probably because it WASNT TRUE.

good grief...

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:18pm:

Jesus! Are you poor Lefties STILL on about this? ;D Pathetically aggrieved losers clutching at straws while wailing "We wuz robbed!" How long has it been now since Trump was elected? And did any of you cry babies shout "FOUL!" when it was later learnt that Bill Clinton's presidential campaign had been hugely funded by Communist China? Not at all!

Exactly Hilary's still at large over Whitewater. If they were fair and balanced they be trying to lock her up.

Karnal wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:23pm:

Lord Herbert wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:18pm: Jesus! Are you poor Lefties STILL on about this? ;D Pathetically aggrieved losers clutching at straws while wailing "We wuz robbed!" How long has it been now since Trump was elected? And did any of you cry babies shout "FOUL!" when it was later learnt that Bill Clinton's presidential campaign had been hugely funded by Communist China? Not at all! Exactly Hilary's still at large over Whitewater. If they were fair and balanced they be trying to lock her up.

and that is the problem with trumptards...  no matter how many investigations by professionals take place and find no crime, they always claim foul.

But since they are all racists and sexists, no much can be expected I guess.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 5:03pm:

I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere.

You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power.

What is remarkable is not so much the truth of what you said, but the number of people who dont understand or accept this.

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 6:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power.

Like our government?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 7:27pm:

Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 6:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power. Like our government?

Good point, Homo. We'd have no probs with Putin hacking the ALP's emails and giving them to Wikileaks.

We'd have no issue with the Russians funding a Facebook ad campaign targeting key marginal seats, creating fake news stories on Bill Shorten and even creating fake news outlets and blogs to put them in.

We wouldn't worry about Turnbull doing business deals in Russia and having a bevy of Russian prostitutes sent up to his room as Mr Trump's bodyguard testified to Congress about Mr Trump. We wouldn't care if Putin kept footage of this in an attempt to blackmail Turnbull.

We wouldn't mind if Putin sent Russian lawyers over to meet with senior Liberal campaign staff to promise dirt on Shorten, and a few hours later Turnbull promised dirt on Shorten in a campaign speech, calling on Putin to hack Shorten's emails.

We wouldn't care if most of Turnbull's senior staffers had lied on their security clearances about meetings with Russian agents or deals with foreign countries to promote their interests within the Australian government.

We wouldn't care about any of that. After all, there are some things far more important than being ruled over by a foreign power, no?

LOCK HER UP. DRAIN THE SWAMP. BUILD THE WALL.

Karnal wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 7:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 7:27pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 6:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power. Like our government? Good point, Homo. We'd have no probs with Putin hacking the ALP's emails and giving them to Wikileaks. We'd have no issue with the Russians funding a Facebook ad campaign targeting key marginal seats, creating fake news stories on Bill Shorten and even creating fake news outlets and blogs to put them in. We wouldn't worry about Turnbull doing business deals in Russia and having a bevy of Russian prostitutes sent up to his room as Mr Trump's bodyguard testified to Congress about Mr Trump. We wouldn't care if Putin kept footage of this in an attempt to blackmail Turnbull, and sent Russian lawyers over to meet with senior Liberal campaign staff to promise dirt on Shorten, and a few hours later Turnbull promised dirt on Shorten in a campaign speech, calling on Putin to hack Shorten's emails. We wouldn't care about any of that at all. After all, there are some things far more important than being ruled over by a foreign power, no? BUILD THE WALL.

Don't speak for me babe. I'm just pointing out a honest fact. Australia has followed the US into every war since WW2. Obviously you don't have a problem with that?

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 7:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 7:47pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 7:27pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 6:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power. Like our government? Good point, Homo. We'd have no probs with Putin hacking the ALP's emails and giving them to Wikileaks. We'd have no issue with the Russians funding a Facebook ad campaign targeting key marginal seats, creating fake news stories on Bill Shorten and even creating fake news outlets and blogs to put them in. We wouldn't worry about Turnbull doing business deals in Russia and having a bevy of Russian prostitutes sent up to his room as Mr Trump's bodyguard testified to Congress about Mr Trump. We wouldn't care if Putin kept footage of this in an attempt to blackmail Turnbull, and sent Russian lawyers over to meet with senior Liberal campaign staff to promise dirt on Shorten, and a few hours later Turnbull promised dirt on Shorten in a campaign speech, calling on Putin to hack Shorten's emails. We wouldn't care about any of that at all. After all, there are some things far more important than being ruled over by a foreign power, no? BUILD THE WALL. Don't speak for me babe. I'm just pointing out a honest fact. Australia has followed the US into every war since WW2. Obviously you don't have a problem with that?

You're read my thoughts. What do you think, babe?

The ANZUS alliance is policy. What do you call a covert project to undermine a national election?

I've read your thoughts too, dear. You think it's all good.

Flynn's confession comes on top of Trump's attempts to stop the investigation. You can try to laugh it off, but Trump is walking a tightrope of his own making. Never mind, by his own statement, Flynn has found God in the process, so everything will work our fine. I always trust people who find God after being caught out.

issuevoter wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 9:14pm:

Flynn's confession comes on top of Trump's attempts to stop the investigation. You can try to laugh it off, but Trump is walking a tightrope of his own making. Never mind, by his own statement, Flynn has found God in the process, so everything will work our fine. I always trust people who find God after being caught out.

Mr Trump found God too, Issue. It was some time last year, during his campaign. When he was asked what his favourite Bible verse is, he said the bit about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.

Mr Trump, you see, is into Old Testament justice. He believes in the Law.

LOCK HER UP.

This is an opinion piece and not reporting! This shows how much we have lost our first amendment right to freedom of speech, if you are not under Oath then you could lie to anyone until recently. How unjust is it to bury an individual in legal debt to force them to give so called evidence against others. There is no crime in contacting other countries leaders and asking them to wait to do something until after the inauguration?


Douglas E. Schoen has been a consultant for the Democratic Party for the past thirty years. A founding partner of Penn, Schoen, and Berland Associates, Inc., he was former President Bill Clinton's research and strategic consultant during the 1996 reelection campaign and has worked for major corporations and nineteen heads of state around the world, including Silvio Berlusconi, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin, and Ehud Barak. He is the author of five books.

Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 7:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 7:47pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 7:27pm: Dnarever wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 6:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Dec 2nd, 2017 at 5:03pm: I can't work out why it is such a problem for the US and Russia to have better relations. I hope Trump is doing deals with Putin considering all of the nukes pointed everywhere. You don't get a meaningful improvement by having a President who is owned by or in debt to a foreign power. Like our government? Good point, Homo. We'd have no probs with Putin hacking the ALP's emails and giving them to Wikileaks. We'd have no issue with the Russians funding a Facebook ad campaign targeting key marginal seats, creating fake news stories on Bill Shorten and even creating fake news outlets and blogs to put them in. We wouldn't worry about Turnbull doing business deals in Russia and having a bevy of Russian prostitutes sent up to his room as Mr Trump's bodyguard testified to Congress about Mr Trump. We wouldn't care if Putin kept footage of this in an attempt to blackmail Turnbull, and sent Russian lawyers over to meet with senior Liberal campaign staff to promise dirt on Shorten, and a few hours later Turnbull promised dirt on Shorten in a campaign speech, calling on Putin to hack Shorten's emails. We wouldn't care about any of that at all. After all, there are some things far more important than being ruled over by a foreign power, no? BUILD THE WALL. Don't speak for me babe. I'm just pointing out a honest fact. Australia has followed the US into every war since WW2. Obviously you don't have a problem with that?

not the point of the thread nor even a bad thing.

Mortdooley wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2017 at 10:41pm:

This is an opinion piece and not reporting! This shows how much we have lost our first amendment right to freedom of speech, if you are not under Oath then you could lie to anyone until recently. How unjust is it to bury an individual in legal debt to force them to give so called evidence against others. There is no crime in contacting other countries leaders and asking them to wait to do something until after the inauguration? Douglas E. Schoen has been a consultant for the Democratic Party for the past thirty years. A founding partner of Penn, Schoen, and Berland Associates, Inc., he was former President Bill Clinton's research and strategic consultant during the 1996 reelection campaign and has worked for major corporations and nineteen heads of state around the world, including Silvio Berlusconi, Shimon Peres, Yitzhak Rabin, and Ehud Barak. He is the author of five books.

You are obviously NOT following the facts of this breaking story. Flynn is ready to testify that Trump ordered him to contact the Russians before he took office and also before the election.  This is illegal and also collusion.

But the best part of any political crime is the COVER-UP and Trump and co have been desperately trying to cover-up all their contacts with Russia which were immense and illegal.

The fun is about to begin.