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Message started by AiA on Dec 14th, 2017 at 11:54pm

Title: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by AiA on Dec 14th, 2017 at 11:54pm
Roy Moore refuses to concede, says he’s in a struggle “to preserve our republic”

Moore refuses to concede because he has chosen "belief" over reality. But that isn't the point of this post.

A few years back, Ben Carson (remember him) was running for POTUS and it came out on the campaign trail that he made the statement that Joseph of the Old Testament built the pyramids to store grain and a certain percent of the American population (that would later go on to vote for Trump) nodded their heads in agreement.

Not long after that it came up in conversation (was in America at the time) and the person I was speaking to seemed to think that Carson might be right. I explained that Egyptology is an academic discipline and a statement like Carson's was like telling an astronomer that the moon is made out of cheese. This churchgoer (and future Trump supporter) told me, "Well, that is Carson's belief" as if that settled it.

I haven't forgotten this exchange - it explains everything I see going around me in the country.


Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by AiA on Dec 15th, 2017 at 12:22am
Roy Moore, a victim of belief:

Roy Moore Still Refuses to Concede and Just Released a Video Listing the Bonkers Reasons Why

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/roy-moore-still-refuses-to-concede-alabama-senate-race-in-bonkers-video.html

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Dec 15th, 2017 at 12:39am
Aia is a stumbler of men!

:)

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by mortdooley on Dec 15th, 2017 at 12:52am

AiA wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 12:22am:
Roy Moore, a victim of belief:

Roy Moore Still Refuses to Concede and Just Released a Video Listing the Bonkers Reasons Why

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/12/roy-moore-still-refuses-to-concede-alabama-senate-race-in-bonkers-video.html



Even though Hillary conceded the Presidential Election she hasn't ever accepted the results. Moore can wait on the Military vote to be counted and even if it swings the other way the win has already been given to Jones.

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by AiA on Dec 15th, 2017 at 1:05am
Is the moon made of cheese Mortie because you believe it to be true?

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by Richdude on Dec 15th, 2017 at 2:34am

AiA wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 1:05am:
Is the moon made of cheese Mortie because you believe it to be true?


You believe you are surrounded by Nazis and KKK members. Does that make it true?

BTW:  Moore behaved like a gentleman after losing where as your hero Hillary got drunk, went ballistic and had to be physically restrained and sedated.



Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by AiA on Dec 15th, 2017 at 3:33am

Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 2:34am:

AiA wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 1:05am:
Is the moon made of cheese Mortie because you believe it to be true?


You believe you are surrounded by Nazis and KKK members. Does that make it true?

BTW:  Moore behaved like a gentleman after losing where as your hero Hillary got drunk, went ballistic and had to be physically restrained and sedated.


Richboi missing the point again and again. You might want to check the top of your head ...

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by Raven on Dec 15th, 2017 at 2:41pm
Is anyone really surprised that a man who has yet to accept the south lost the civil war won’t concede?

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by AiA on Dec 17th, 2017 at 3:02am
Roy Moore Won’t Accept Reality, Asks Supporters to Donate to ‘Election Integrity Fund’

Failed Alabama Senate candidate and alleged sexual predator Roy Moore is not only still refusing to accept his loss to Democrat Doug Jones, he’s trying to raises funds to help discredit the election results. President Trump called for Moore to concede on Friday morning — as has Steve Bannon, reportedly — but Moore sent an email to supporters on Friday assuring them that “the battle is NOT OVER” and asking them to donate to an “election integrity fund.”

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/12/moore-wants-supporters-cash-for-election-integrity-fund.html

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by mortdooley on Dec 17th, 2017 at 10:20pm
Alabama Senate Race: MILITARY BALLOTS May Give Roy Moore the Victory

https://theblacksphere.net/2017/12/hold-off-roy-moore-may-get-victory/

by Miranda Dawson | Dec 15, 2017


Alabama Senate Race: MILITARY BALLOTS May Give Roy Moore the Victory
So, leftists called Roy Moore crazy for not conceding the recent election in Alabama. But thanks to military of Alabama’s overwhelmingly support Moore, he might not be that crazy after all.

According to a report by NewsMax:

    “Over 18,000 servicemen come from the great state of Alabama, and their absentee ballots just came in. This is bad news for Democrats, because Doug Jones’ chances aren’t looking good. According to the State Board of Elections, 16,323 votes came across for Roy Moore while only 1,130 soldiers voted for Jones.”

While Moore hasn’t won yet, this does provide him some wiggle room. Further, voter fraud has been reported, as some Millennials stated on television that they have voted illegally. Add to this the more than 12,000 votes by illegals being disputed for Doug Jones. He disputed this after learning that illegal aliens were found driving to and from different polling places casting votes for Jones.

    “According to the Birmingham Press, polling officials caught what appears to be a “van full of illegals” who traveled to at least 7 polling locations with fake identification to vote for Moore’s opponent Doug Jones.

    “Law enforcement stopped the vehicle at Santa Recto Middle School in Wilmington as 13 Hispanic men were seen piling into a van after voting,” the Santa Recto Observer reported Tuesday afternoon. “The same men were also seen in Smithfield, Birmingham, La Croix, and Mobile and were reported as suspicious by voting officials.”

It appears that Democrats didn’t go with a single-threaded strategy of accusing Moore of sexual harassment. Instead they hedged their bets with illegal voters.

But it gets better.

Officials have also found more then 12,000 dead voters who voted for Jones.

    Ladies of Liberty reports that the small town of Bordalama, Alabama was beset by fraudsters who apparently posed as dead people, bringing the vote totals to 953 for Roy Moore and 5,327 for Democrat Jones. There are only 1,867 registered voters in Bordalama.

    “State election officials have determined that more than 12,000 votes  (that’s 5,329  more than yesterday) so far in the state of Alabama are null and void because the voters don’t appear to be living,” local news station WYKY reported Wednesday. “It appears that these voters’ names were never removed from the rolls when they passed away and someone used their information to stack votes for Doug Jones.”

This is the kind of shenanigans the left has to push in order to win elections. How pathetic and desperate can you get?

In addition to the dead and illegal voting, Democrats used another tactic. They hired Al Sharpton’s half brother to register felons to vote for Jones. We documented their efforts:

    “In the last month, I think we registered at least five- to ten-thousand people all over the state,” Glasgow, president of Dothan’s The Ordinary People Society (TOPS) advocacy group, said Monday. “I’ve got people all over the state registering people with my TOPS branches in Tuscaloosa, Birmingham, Montgomery, Enterprise, Dothan, Abbeville, Geneva, Gordon, Bessemer, we have a lot.”

The new revelation of voter fraud is still being investigated. So for now only speculation remains. But the truth may come soon.

Let’s go with the notion this election gets overturned. Try to imagine the reaction of the Left. I believe they would burn Alabama down.

And what of all the praise the Left heaped on “backwards” Alabama. They bombarded Twitter and social media with hashtags like “thank you Alabama” and “thank you black women” for helping Jones score a win.

    Jones defeated Roy Moore with the help of nearly unanimous support from black voters, with 96% of black voters supporting the democratic candidate. On Twitter, the hashtag #BlackWomen began trending early Wednesday as people noted that CNN exit polls showed 98% of black women voters supported Jones.

Elections just need a little help so the right person wins, right democrats?

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by Karnal on Dec 19th, 2017 at 9:20am

Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 2:34am:

AiA wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 1:05am:
Is the moon made of cheese Mortie because you believe it to be true?


You believe you are surrounded by Nazis and KKK members. Does that make it true?


Mr Trump hopes so, Rich. He defends them every chance he gets.

You gotta have a dream, no?

Title: Re: The American Problem of "Belief" v Reality
Post by aquascoot on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:30am

Karnal wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 9:20am:

Richdude wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 2:34am:

AiA wrote on Dec 15th, 2017 at 1:05am:
Is the moon made of cheese Mortie because you believe it to be true?


You believe you are surrounded by Nazis and KKK members. Does that make it true?


Mr Trump hopes so, Rich. He defends them every chance he gets.

You gotta have a dream, no?



oh come on.
its the media that has this "belief' over 'reality' about the KKK and neo nazis in america.
there must be all of a dozen neo nazis in the USA,
and you and the media are trying to create a "moral panic" over them.

for every neo nazi, there must be 1000 violent lefties ready to use violence to shut down anyone they dont agree with.
it is the trump supporters getting hit, not doing the hitting.

try to present reality instead of the medias propagandised "belief"

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