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The Special Senate election is over....thank God!!

The unofficial (uncertified) vote count shows Jones winning over Moore by about 2% -- 21,000 votes.

By now we all should be well aware that if the vote count were 0.5% or less, according to Alabama Law, there would be an automatic vote recount (paid by the State).

What we are also now starting to hear, is that even if the Certified vote count due by 3 January, 2018 is over this 0.5%, that there may be long & drawn out court battle for a vote recount anyway (paid for by private concerns, not public dollars).

Word is that the money is already coming in, & will probably be enough to fund a recount, challenging the Special Election..

For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones.

That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues.

My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama.

Doug Jones was not that man......period.

That was the big picture item....that was the focus, who it was was immaterial, just as long as it was a Conservative.

Don't kid yourself....keeping the demonrats in a Senate Minority is all important too. Didn't want no RINO either.

So, how would all this talk of recounts play in the US Senate?

Until all this Special Election dust settles, & Doug Jones is seated, there will be a status quo.

Luther J. Strange (R-AL) will stay seated in the US Senate until Doug Jones is seated. He will vote with the Republican majority until then, & maintain the Republican Majority in the US Senate on all crucial votes held in the Senate.

So how does this help the Republicans & hurt the democrats???

Every day that a recount is either being ruled on, debated in Alabama, or taking place, is one day closer to Doug Jones's last day in the US Senate......until seated Jones can't obstruct Trump/Republican legislation(s), he can't vote on any motions, he cant exercise any Senatorial power.....he is a non-entity in the US Senate......until seated in the US Senate chambers.

The battle over a recount could take precious monhts......well past the 3 January, 2018 date for certification......the date of certification will be the starting date....

In November, 2018 the voters in Alabama will again be voting for a US Senator......the exact same seat being discussed here.

There is an extremely high likelihood that after the 2018 election, the next Senator from the Proud State of Alabama won't be Senator Doug Jones, won't be a democrat, & will most probably be a http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/quotess.gif  Conservative.  http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/quotess.gif

;) 

There is no recount for anything above .5% points, you smacking artard.  Even if there was, it would cost the state taxpayers millions and that is not likely going to happen. I'm afraid child molesters like yourself just have to admit defeat.

Panther wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:24am:

Every day that a recount is either being ruled on, debated in Alabama, or taking place, is one day closer to Doug Jones's last day in the US Senate......he can't obstruct Trump/Republican legislation(s), he can't vote on any motions, he cant exercise any Senatorial power.....he is a no entity in the US Senate......until seated in the US Senate chambers.

Nice fake news, Putin troll. Christ, you are an artard.

Somebody please ring the police and tell them Panther is a pedophile.

He's a misinformed troll. Anything below .5% and I'm all for a recount but that didn't happen here. As for Jones, he is hardly a progressive Democrat, but if he helps to gets Trump removed from office, the better. 

Marla wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:27am:

There is no recount for anything above .5% points, you smacking artard.  Even if there was, it would cost the state taxpayers millions and that is not likely going to happen. I'm afraid child molesters like yourself just have to admit defeat.

Really....& you know this from where.....your bong?? http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/hookah.gif

Roy Moore is yesterday's news.....but the recount will carry his name though...

:)  You know jack sh!t troll.......& JFYI, the court petition(s) to recount, & the recount itself, would be privately funded, not publicly funded......

Artard, there is no recount - at least not a taxpayer funded one.

Marla wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:43am:

Artard, there is no recount - at least not a taxpayer funded one.

Admit it troll....say it after me.....There is a Privately Funded Recount possible in Alabama..


Moore won't win it, but like I said every day at it is one day less in the Senate for Jones, & one day more for Strange..... ;)

AiA wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:30am:

Somebody please ring the police and tell them Panther is a pedophile.

I dont think that was necessary aia.

Panther wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 10:16am:

There is a Privately Funded Recount possible in Alabama.

https://youtu.be/LMIy_KiBpKU

Bloodhound wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 10:17am:

AiA wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:30am: Somebody please ring the police and tell them Panther is a pedophile. I dont think that was necessary aia.

He's been hangin' with the likes of LW58 too long 'hound.....them Leftists like to pigeonhole (& cornhole) everyone who don't share their opinion......thanks for the backup though....

Actually, AiA gets it from his mammy's side of the family tree.....come to think of it, her side is both sides (maybe the only side), in Georgia they all sleep together. ;D ;D ;D

How can you have a recount when the court ordered the ballot records destroyed?

AiA wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:30am:

Somebody please ring the police and tell them Panther is a pedophile.

They probably already know.

the ACTUAL law - unlike Panthers masturbation fantasy - is that no candidate can pay for a recount. This has already been made very clear.

The Pedo Party lost.  Get over it and get help.

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 10:52am:

How can you have a recount when the court ordered the ballot records destroyed?

Well, then they can't certify the election either if proof of an outcome can't be ascertained.

I think any such order must be scheduled to take effect subsequent to certification & possible contestation, which must take place within 72 hours of certification, if memory serves me well.... 

Panther wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 11:41am:

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 10:52am: How can you have a recount when the court ordered the ballot records destroyed? Well, then they can't certify the election either if proof of an outcome can't be ascertained. I think any such order must be scheduled to take effect subsequent to certification & possible contestation, which must take place within 72 hours of certification, if memory serves me well....

I think that there was an order to preserve the votes after the election but the Dems got that over turned to have them destroyed asap after the election.

Why would they do that?

Bloodhound wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 11:41am: bogarde73 wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 10:52am: How can you have a recount when the court ordered the ballot records destroyed? Well, then they can't certify the election either if proof of an outcome can't be ascertained. I think any such order must be scheduled to take effect subsequent to certification & possible contestation, which must take place within 72 hours of certification, if memory serves me well....  I think that there was an order to preserve the votes after the election but the Dems got that over turned to have them destroyed asap after the election. Why would they do that?

how about you provide a sliver of evidence that this even happened instead of masturbating your Trump love on here?

Panther wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:24am:

For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama.

So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican?

Raven wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:24am: For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama. So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican?

Thats why we call Panther a pedo-supporter because.... he supports a pedo.

easy as.

What a moral degenerate.

Raven wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 7:14pm:

Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:24am: For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama. So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican?

Unfit, because you are willing to convict without evidence, all you need is an allegation, & your searchin' for a rope.

The good people of Alabama know him better than the Northern MSM Carpetbaggers do, & they aren't clouded with hatred, as the MSM is....But that's all old news now...its over....the accusers can collect their pay, & slink back inder the rocks they came from....

longweekend58 wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 7:16pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 7:14pm: Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:24am: For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama. So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican? Thats why we call Panther a pedo-supporter because.... he supports a pedo. easy as. What a moral degenerate.

It's true, Trump has been accused of raping two small children.

Why would anyone support someone like that?

I'm curious,

Panther wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 9:02pm:

Raven wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 7:14pm: Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:24am: For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama. So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican? Unfit, because you are willing to convict without evidence, all you need is an allegation, & your searchin' for a rope. The good people of Alabama know him better than the Northern MSM Carpetbaggers do, & they aren't clouded with hatred, as the MSM is....But that's all old news now...its over....the accusers can collect their pay, & slink back inder the rocks they came from....

Not talking about the sexual allegations, that's all they are, allegations.

Moore's career is riddled with details indicating that the man is, objectively speaking, a despicable lunatic: At various points, he has opined that Minnesota representative Keith Ellison is unfit to serve in Congress because of his Muslim faith; that kneeling during the national anthem is illegal; and that homosexual conduct should be illegal. Oh, he also supported the removal of his own party's Senate Majority Leader as soon as it becomes practicable.

This man as state Supreme Court justice was removed from office twice for failing to comply with various court orders—not a good look for a judge.

Moore refused to talk to a Washington Post reporter, citing their employer's endorsement of his opponent, Doug Jones, while simultaneously demonstrating a remarkably shoddy grasp of how reporting works.

"Y’all endorsed my opponent already, so, you know, that’s a hard position to be in,” Moore said. “But all these newspaper reporters, I wish y’all would print me as I am, and not as otherpeople say I am. That’s the only thing."

Yes, how dare a newspaper print an editorial in which it expresses an opinion about Roy Moore's fitness for office based on things he has said and done? Don't they know it's rude to point out that an unrepentant bigot with no respect for the law is, in fact, an unrepentant bigot with no respect for the law?

The exchange continues:

“Okay. How are you? Who are you?” a reporter asked.

“Well, I’m a lot different than how the Washington Post is portraying me, that’s for sure,” Moore said. “I don’t hate people. I’m a Christian. I don’t hate people.”

No, Roy Moore does not hate people. He just has repeatedly demonstrated a sincerely-held belief that certain types of minority groups are entitled under the law to fewer rights than other, non-minority groups. What's so wrong about that?! Eventually, Moore allowed that he no longer believes that there should be a religious test to hold public office, indicating that he at least possesses the ability to grasp basic concepts of American constitutional law, even if the results haven't always been there.

That's why he is unfit.

Bloodhound wrote on Dec 16^th, 2017 at 11:44am:

Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 11:41am: bogarde73 wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 10:52am: How can you have a recount when the court ordered the ballot records destroyed? Well, then they can't certify the election either if proof of an outcome can't be ascertained. I think any such order must be scheduled to take effect subsequent to certification & possible contestation, which must take place within 72 hours of certification, if memory serves me well....  I think that there was an order to preserve the votes after the election but the Dems got that over turned to have them destroyed asap after the election. Why would they do that?

but the Dems got that over turned


No the election officials got it overturned, nothing to do with the Dems. In the previous election when they also destroyed the digital copies of the ballots following the count the Republicans won the election.

I have no idea why they do this but they do it every time.

Raven wrote on Dec 17^th, 2017 at 4:02am:

Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:02pm: Raven wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 7:14pm: Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:24am: For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama. So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican? Unfit, because you are willing to convict without evidence, all you need is an allegation, & your searchin' for a rope. The good people of Alabama know him better than the Northern MSM Carpetbaggers do, & they aren't clouded with hatred, as the MSM is....But that's all old news now...its over....the accusers can collect their pay, & slink back inder the rocks they came from.... Not talking about the sexual allegations, that's all they are, allegations. Moore's career is riddled with details indicating that the man is, objectively speaking, a despicable lunatic: At various points, he has opined that Minnesota representative Keith Ellison is unfit to serve in Congress because of his Muslim faith; that kneeling during the national anthem is illegal; and that homosexual conduct should be illegal. Oh, he also supported the removal of his own party's Senate Majority Leader as soon as it becomes practicable. This man as state Supreme Court justice was removed from office twice for failing to comply with various court orders—not a good look for a judge. Moore refused to talk to a Washington Post reporter, citing their employer's endorsement of his opponent, Doug Jones, while simultaneously demonstrating a remarkably shoddy grasp of how reporting works. "Y’all endorsed my opponent already, so, you know, that’s a hard position to be in,” Moore said. “But all these newspaper reporters, I wish y’all would print me as I am, and not as otherpeople say I am. That’s the only thing." Yes, how dare a newspaper print an editorial in which it expresses an opinion about Roy Moore's fitness for office based on things he has said and done? Don't they know it's rude to point out that an unrepentant bigot with no respect for the law is, in fact, an unrepentant bigot with no respect for the law? The exchange continues: “Okay. How are you? Who are you?” a reporter asked. “Well, I’m a lot different than how the Washington Post is portraying me, that’s for sure,” Moore said. “I don’t hate people. I’m a Christian. I don’t hate people.” No, Roy Moore does not hate people. He just has repeatedly demonstrated a sincerely-held belief that certain types of minority groups are entitled under the law to fewer rights than other, non-minority groups. What's so wrong about that?! Eventually, Moore allowed that he no longer believes that there should be a religious test to hold public office, indicating that he at least possesses the ability to grasp basic concepts of American constitutional law, even if the results haven't always been there. That's why he is unfit.

http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/applause001.gif    Bravo.....now that was worth reading, & others please take note, Raven knows the way to construct a reply. I found it logically constructed, & clearly spelled out.....no need for foul mouthing or abuse. http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/applause001.gif

That said, I still would have supported Judge Roy, not because I wouldn't consider the above well spoken reply, but simply because I find his opponent's positions on social issues, abortion, the Second Amendment, etc...etc....to be way to far over to the left of my own, where on the other hand even though some of Judge Roy's positions may be a tad strong, he presented other Conservative views & Social Positions that I would consider much more acceptable & compatible to my own. Therefore, based on his proven track record, I found it easy to support his candidacy. Being he was faced with "traditional election-eve,unproven sexual accusations" consistent of the left every election year in the USA .......  All they deserved was a shake of the head, shrug of the shoulders, & a tsk...tsk...here we go again, sigh .....as most Alabamans did when asked.

Panther wrote on Dec 17^th, 2017 at 8:50am:

Raven wrote on Dec 17th, 2017 at 4:02am: Panther wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 9:02pm: Raven wrote on Dec 16th, 2017 at 7:14pm: [quote author=DreamRyderX link=1513380260/0#0 date=1513380260] For the record, I don't give a rat's ass that Roy Moore lost the un-lose-able election to Doug Jones. That's history now....sh!t happens....time to move on to more important issues. My desire to see Moore win wasn't because I believe in the "man", it was because above all else, I wanted to see a Conservative Republican as Senator of Alabama. So you would see the good people of Alabama elect a man totally unfit for office just because he is a Conservative Republican? Unfit, because you are willing to convict without evidence, all you need is an allegation, & your searchin' for a rope. The good people of Alabama know him better than the Northern MSM Carpetbaggers do, & they aren't clouded with hatred, as the MSM is....But that's all old news now...its over....the accusers can collect their pay, & slink back inder the rocks they came from.... Not talking about the sexual allegations, that's all they are, allegations. Moore's career is riddled with details indicating that the man is, objectively speaking, a despicable lunatic: At various points, he has opined that Minnesota representative Keith Ellison is unfit to serve in Congress because of his Muslim faith; that kneeling during the national anthem is illegal; and that homosexual conduct should be illegal. Oh, he also supported the removal of his own party's Senate Majority Leader as soon as it becomes practicable. This man as state Supreme Court justice was removed from office twice for failing to comply with various court orders—not a good look for a judge. Moore refused to talk to a Washington Post reporter, citing their employer's endorsement of his opponent, Doug Jones, while simultaneously demonstrating a remarkably shoddy grasp of how reporting works. "Y’all endorsed my opponent already, so, you know, that’s a hard position to be in,” Moore said. “But all these newspaper reporters, I wish y’all would print me as I am, and not as otherpeople say I am. That’s the only thing." Yes, how dare a newspaper print an editorial in which it expresses an opinion about Roy Moore's fitness for office based on things he has said and done? Don't they know it's rude to point out that an unrepentant bigot with no respect for the law is, in fact, an unrepentant bigot with no respect for the law? The exchange continues: “Okay. How are you? Who are you?” a reporter asked. “Well, I’m a lot different than how the Washington Post is portraying me, that’s for sure,” Moore said. “I don’t hate people. I’m a Christian. I don’t hate people.” That's why he is unfit.

http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/applause001.gif    [size=11][font=Georgia][i]Bravo.....now that was worth reading, & others please take note, Raven knows the way to construct a reply. I found it logically constructed, & clearly spelled out.....no need for foul mouthing or abuse. http://33sm.net16.net/smileys/applause001.gif

That said, I still would have supported Judge Roy, not because I wouldn't consider the above well spoken reply, but simply because I find his opponent's positions on social issues, abortion, the Second Amendment, etc...etc....to be way to far over to the left of my own, where on the other hand even though some of Judge Roy's positions may be a tad strong, he presented other Conservative views & Social Positions that I would consider much more acceptable & compatible to my own. Therefore, based on his proven track record, I found it easy to support his candidacy. Being he was faced with "traditional election-eve,unproven sexual accusations" consistent of the left every election year in the USA .......  All they deserved was a shake of the head, shrug of the shoulders, & a tsk...tsk...here we go again, sigh .....as most Alab



Panther, you supported a pedophile. You supported a racist that is so racist that he thinks slavery is good. He loves guns, but not so much civil rights. He loves women as long as they dont talk, vote or object to rape.

Yes, Moore is definitely YOUR kind of candidate.