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Message started by juliar on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:58am

Title: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:58am
Things is looking up in Oz as the real govt is back in full control and the Australian economy is booming as Mal repairs the horrific damage done to Australia by the Labor imbeciles during their six sick years of Socialist Waste and Disgrace.

And a bumper BUDGET is just around the corner.




$23 billion of national debt tipped to be sliced off
By Fiona Willan • Political Reporter 10:40am Dec 18, 2017

VIDEO: Budget update a winner for Turnbull

Treasurer Scott Morrison is set to unveil his budget update this morning - and it's expected to be one the Turnbull government will try to claim as a political win.

For the first time since the Global Financial Crisis, we're heading for a massive reduction in gross debt.

That could potentially leave the door open for income tax cuts.

In the May budget this year, debt was expected to reach $606 billion over four years.


Malcolm Turnbull celebrating the re-election of John Alexander in Bennelong at the weekend. (AAP)

Now it's on track to reach no more than $583 billion - $23 billion dollars lower.

Nine's Finance Editor Ross Greenwood said this was mainly due to the government receiving more tax revenue from middle-income earners.

"When people get a wage rise, they eventually bump themselves up into a higher tax bracket. What occurred in 2016 is they raised the tax threshold from almost the average wage of $80,000 to $87,000," he told the Today Show.

"But people continued to have wage rises, and as a result this has collected the government billions upon billions of dollars."

Some of the other factors leading to an improved budget outlook include higher-than-expected coal and iron ore prices.


The government will announce it has wiped $23 billion off the national debt. (AAP)


Scott Morrison will announce Australia's latest debt position later today. (AAP)

This has increased company profits in the resources sector, which has meant the government has been able to collect more tax.

Greenwood said jobs growth had also contributed.

"371,000 jobs created over the past 12 months means there's that many more taxpayers putting billions of dollars in," he said.

"This is the reason why the government is now in a position where probably not only has it got a situation where it can pay down debt, but in the future also to hand out tax cuts to those middle-income earners."

While the Turnbull government will be rather pleased with itself over this budget update - it is likely to be less pleased with the latest Newspoll.

For the 25th time in a row, it's lagging behind Labor in the Newspoll.


The treasurer will hand down the mid-tear review today. (AAP)

The latest has Labor leading 53 to 47, on a two-party preferred basis.

It also places the Opposition ahead in the Primary vote, leading 37 to 36 percent.

Malcolm Turnbull has maintained his lead as preferred Prime Minister, 41 to 34.

The Newspoll also places Labor ahead on cost of living issues.

Nine's Political Editor Chris Uhlmann says the positive budget update will help the Turnbull government end the year on a high note - after already gaining momentum with the legalisation of same-sex marriage, two by-election wins and the departure of Labor Senator Sam Dastyari.

"He's had the best month of his year in the last month of this year, he needs to work out how he can turn that into a good 2018."


VIDEO: Government expected to slice billions in budget


https://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/12/18/06/17/national-debt-sliced-down-by-23-billion

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 18th, 2017 at 1:24pm
Smell the fear....... smell the election year...... smell the election near....

Pension rise on the cards, is it?    Where's the $23Bn coming from?  Selling shares in pie in the sky?

Wow - ONLY $583 Bn - only double when Labor left office.... that's a relief... glad it wasn't $606Bn or so... I'm so happy...

This is like the Bennelong fiasco - losing 6% out of 15% is 40% - if a company lost that they'd be goners....  ::)

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2017 at 1:49pm

"Shorten threat"?     ;D

The biggest threat to the Liberal Party is the Liberal Party.


Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by lee on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 1:49pm:
"Shorten threat"?     ;D

The biggest threat to the Liberal Party is the Liberal Party.

Yep. Shorten is a non-event.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:14pm

lee wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 1:49pm:
"Shorten threat"?     ;D

The biggest threat to the Liberal Party is the Liberal Party.

Yep. Shorten is a non-event.

Copper Internet guarantees Malcolm loses and every single Australian, especially including the ashamed capital l liberal voters, want to see him fall on his face so they can  Begin forgetting their nothing legacy that they left  their children after a once in a century mining boom that built the Asian century their kids have to live in!

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 1:49pm:
"Shorten threat"?     ;D

The biggest threat to the Liberal Party is the Liberal Party.

By that you of course mean COPPER INTERNET  :D

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by lee on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:20pm

Its time wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?


We haven't had it for decades. Why should it start now?

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:22pm

Its time wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?




Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:22pm

Its time wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?

Haven’t you seen all the copper Internet ?

Have you been living under a rock?

All the capital l liberal voters so glad they are hanging their kids kids kids friends neighbours with a copper noose in the Asian century this country actually built?

;D

F u kk war: just kill your own kids  ::)

Go c &$*stralia  ;D

    *** The ghost of John Howard doth remaineth me thinketh

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 18th, 2017 at 10:16pm
The despairing Lefties have gone into terminal deny mode losing their troubled minds in fantasies.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 18th, 2017 at 10:27pm
On the DT drooliar ? Do you by any chance live near a suburb called blackwood in south Oz  ;) "near"

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 18th, 2017 at 10:40pm
LW seems to have gone a bit barmy wot with all the stress and depression of getting it just SO wrong.

While Bull S. is banished to the naughty corner for being such a drongo the real govt shows the way to get Australia on the road to booming prosperity.

ScoMo does a brilliant job in cleaning up the shocking mess the Labor imbeciles made of Australia during their six sick years of Socialist waste and disgrace.



This shows how the Libs did it.




To read the full story of the glory have a look here

http://www.cairnspost.com.au/news/national/budget-forecast-treasurer-scott-morrison-says-government-on-track-to-deliver-first-surplus-since-gfc/news-story/5f4bf5120925828f73ec6b5502b76d38

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 18th, 2017 at 10:54pm
DrooLiar , what is a budget deficit ?

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:12pm
The pressure of seeing his hero Bull S. named and shamed and totally stuffing up Bennelong is sending paw LW round the twist.

LW you should be overjoyed that the shocking mess created by Labor during their six sick years of Socialist waste and disgrace is being cleaned up by the real responsible economically competent govt that was recently so strongly endorsed by the people of New England and Bennelong.

With Bull S. a boat anchor round Labor's neck it is hard to see the Libs not easily winning the next Fed election and saving Australia from Bull S. dragging it down into his Socialist gutter.

Things is definitely looking up for Australia with Mal's financial brilliance guiding it away from Labor's Socialist insanity.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:14pm
Ok , you have no idea  ;D

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:18pm
Now LW you should have a quiet lie down until you recover some of your equanimity.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:32pm
JuLiar what is a budget deficit ?

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:34pm
No predictions ( we already know how good yours are  ;D)  facts , what is a budget deficit ?

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 6:51am
But LW as a Lefty you would already be well acquainted with Labor's shocking debt.

When the result was so blindingly obvious I did not think it was necessary to state the obvious.

Now how about predicting the results of the upcoming Labor citizenship shonkies by elections ?

And parachuting Eddie Obeid's girl into Mr Has Been's Senate seat has caught on a tree branch as Mr Has Been has not actually resigned and some union joker has challenged.

Is Bull S. getting nervious about Mr Has Been and/or Eddie Obeid's girl challenging him for the Labor top job ?

The revitalized Libs are now a dead cert to win the big one.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Bam on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:04am

juliar wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 11:18pm:
Now LW you should have a quiet lie down until you recover some of your equanimity.

You should delete your account.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:05am
Always good to start the day with some fantasy from the resident loon  :D

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Bam on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:06am

Its time wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?

Good government is coming in 2019 when Shorten becomes PM.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:15am

Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:06am:

Its time wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?

Good government is coming in 2019 when Shorten becomes PM.


[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] sure is Bam

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by philperth2010 on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:25am
We should be thanking China not Morrison....If China stop buying our rocks we are stuffed!!!

>:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:31am
LW admit it you are enjoying every minute of all this attention you are getting.

What do you think Bull S.'s next stuff up will be ?

Will he refuse to send his citizenship shonkies to the Hi Court and the Poodle will have to do it for him ?

Will his plan to put Eddie Obeid's girl into Mr Has Been's MT Senate seat founder ?

Will FANG the NZ Tooth Fairy trick him into RESTARTING the BOATS ?

Isn't it exciting times especially when you know Oz is safe from Bull S's Socialist insanity ?



Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Leftwinger on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:37am
Yes juLiar you seem to follow me all over the forum cutting and posting articles you don't even read that are usually detrimental to your argument  ;D

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by cods on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:39am

philperth2010 wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:25am:
We should be thanking China not Morrison....If China stop buying our rocks we are stuffed!!!

>:( >:( >:(



that is what the right was saying   during the krudd/gillard years

instead the left kept telling us how bad everything was in oz....and how if we didnt have the stimuli we would have sunk on the spot...instead of 6 years later..... ::)

the left have never given China the credit... in fact  they have gone overboard to stop all mining...

without putting a replacement into action ..... first..

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by cods on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:43am

Its time wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:37am:
Yes juLiar you seem to follow me all over the forum cutting and posting articles you don't even read that are usually detrimental to your argument  ;D

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ::) ::)

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:50am
Even Labor is admitting Bull S. appearing as a toxic pariah in Bennelong lost Bennelong.



Labor facing as many as 4 byelections in 2018 after Bennelong win restores Turnbull majority
By James Massola17 December 2017 - 02:40pm

Labor may have to fight as many as 4 more byelections in early 2018, after John Alexander's victory in the crucial Bennelong byelection restored Malcolm Turnbull's one-seat majority.

The victory in Bennelong also makes it more likely Mr Turnbull will reshuffle his front bench later this week, though after the release of the mid-year budget update on Monday that will show the federal deficit will be $23 billion lower than forecast by 2021.

The Turnbull government has retained its one-seat majority after John Alexander won back the Sydney seat of Bennelong, despite a swing against him.

Lower house MP David Feeney was referred to the High Court over his possible dual UK-Australian citizenship earlier this month. Now that the government has its one-seat majority in Parliament again, it has the numbers to refer Labor MPs Justine Keay, Susan Lamb and Josh Wilson to the court.

NXT MP Rebekha Sharkie is in a similar situation, which would mean a total of five referrals could be made to the court. If the court finds the MPs were not eligible to be elected because of their dual citizenship, byelections would then be held.

Three Labor and NXT MPs had not received confirmation of their renunciation of their UK citizenship when nominations closed for the 2016 election, though the ALP has argued their members took all "reasonable steps" to renounce UK citizenship and therefore should be in the clear.

The victory in Bennelong, which follows a byelection win for deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce two weeks ago, the successful legalisation of same-sex marriage and the recent resignation of Labor senator Sam Dastyari, caps a strong end to what has been a mostly difficult year for Mr Turnbull.

Conversely, Opposition Leader Bill Shorten will start 2018 on the back foot if Labor has to fight to hold four of its seats; Mr Feeney's seat of Batman, in Melbourne, is at particular risk of going to the Greens, especially as the Coalition is unlikely to stand a candidate.

A senior Labor MP said the relatively small swing of about five per cent to Labor's Kristina Keneally was "a terrible result, we poured a lot of resources into it and it's an ordinary outcome".
"Bill was a big negative in Bennelong but he wouldn't stay away."

On Sunday, Mr Turnbull strongly hinted the citizenship saga, which has seen a swag of MPs and senators disqualified and which began in July, will drag on into the new year.
"The Labor Party at this stage, even though they have two people in the House of Representatives who are UK citizens now, neither of them have stepped down, and the risk of by-elections next year falls clearly on the Labor side."

The government's chief parliamentary tactician, Christopher Pyne, went further and confirmed the referrals were on the cards.
"Our first preference is for Bill Shorten to do the right thing and refer his own MPs. In the absence of that, we won't be complicit in a Shorten protection racket. If necessary, we will refer any MP with a serious case to answer," he told Fairfax Media.

"The MPs for Longman [Ms Lamb], Braddon [Ms Keay] and Fremantle [Mr Wilson] have all admitted they were British citizens when nominations closed for the 2016 election. They have a prima facie case to answer, as does the MP for Mayo [Ms Sharkie]."
In the wake of the Bennelong loss, Labor front bencher Tony Burke said there was "no doubt" the resignation of senator Sam Dastyari had hurt Labor in the Bennelong byelection.

In addition, Mr Burke said the lesson from the byelection was that "the next election will be hard" but that if the swing Labor won in the seat was repeated across the country, "we wouldn't have won Bennelong but we may well have won government".
However, he said, "there are enough people willing to change their votes that with the right work and the right policies, we can get there".
As counting in Bennelong continued on Sunday, with 79.5 per cent of the vote counted Mr Alexander had won 54.78 per cent of the two-party preferred vote, and Labor's star candidate Ms Keneally claimed 45.22 per cent.
That represents a swing of 4.94 per cent to Ms Keneally, a result that is broadly in line with swings that typically occur in byelections in government seats.

In the cabinet reshuffle, the Prime Minister needs to make room for newly-elected Nationals deputy leader Bridget McKenzie in his cabinet, former Special Minister of State Scott Ryan needs to be replaced, while there is a question mark over whether Industry Minister Arthur Sinodinos, who is battling cancer and currently on leave, will continue in his role.
In addition, Immigration Minister Peter Dutton's new department of Home Affairs is expected to begin operating this week, and some MPs expect George Brandis to step down and take up the post of High Commissioner in London - though the Attorney-General has indicated he wants to continue in his job.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/politics/federal/labor-facing-as-many-as-four-byelections-in-2018-after-bennelong-win-restores-turnbull-majority-20171217-h05yg0.html



Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 8:02am
LW it is actually the other way round I post TRUTHFUL relevant articles and you come rushing in just to get attention.

And I give you the attention you so crave.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 8:11am
How the utterly incompetent old burnt out union brown noser Bull S. misread Bennelong.




China syndrome leaves unanswered questions about Australian politics. Did the scandal surrounding senator Dastyari and his links to Chinese businessmen spark backlash in Sydney by-election?
By LACHLAN COLQUHOUN DECEMBER 18, 2017 12:04 PM (UTC+8) 214

Australian Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull’s Liberal-National Government won a crucial by-election in Sydney during the weekend, but the result posed more questions than it has answered.

What we do know is that the Liberal Party incumbent John Alexander, forced to seek re-election by revelations that he may have British dual citizenship and therefore unable to sit in Parliament, hung on to his seat despite a 5% swing to the opposition Labor Party.

On a two-party preferred basis under Australia’s system, Alexander won 55% of the vote and his Labor opponent 45%. Strangely, for a by-election, both sides are claiming they are winners.

The victory for Alexander, a popular former tennis champion who represented Australia at Wimbledon and in the Davis Cup, means that the Turnbull government has hung on to its one seat majority in the Australian House of Representatives.

But this is where certainty ends. Key questions still need to be answered. For example, can the 5% swing against the government in the Bennelong seat be replicated in the next general election?

After all, Labor fielded a star candidate in former New South Wales Premier Kristina Keneally, and she may have been responsible for much of the swing.

Also, if the 5% swing was repeated, Turnbull would be out and the Labor Party would win more than 20 seats and be in government. Yet that raises another question: Could the swing in Bennelong be repeated nationally?

Another intriguing question is whether the Bennelong result will re-boot the government, which has endured an horrorific 2017? Turnbull, naturally, is talking it up but the closely watched Newspoll survey shows the popularity needle has barely moved for the government.

Put together during the same weekend as the by-election, the News Ltd opinion poll showed Labor leading Turnbull’s conservative coalition by 53% to 47%. This is the 25th consecutive Newspoll the government has lost.

It is worth recalling that Turnbull moved on previous Prime Minister Tony Abbott and challenged him after he lost 30 consecutive Newspolls. If the trend continues, will that embolden Conservative rivals to mount a leadership coup attempt?

Finally, what was the impact of the Asian, and particularly Chinese, vote in Bennelong? The election took place immediately after a scandal in which Labor senator Sam Dastyari was forced to resign because of his links with Chinese businessmen close to the Beijing Government.

Turnbull’s administration leveraged the revelations that Dastyari had accepted Chinese donor funds and had also lobbied colleagues against meeting with Hong Kong democracy activists as a sign that he had questionable loyalty to Australia. One called him a “double agent.”

Media coverage of Beijing’s influence on Australian public affairs has been a running story in the country for most of 2017. The Dastyari affair brought it to a head, prompting a ban on foreign political donations.

But how did this influence the large number of Chinese voters in Bennelong? Did they agree with the government line that interference from Beijing was compromising Australia’s sovereignty?  Or did they view it as “China bashing” and react against it by voting Labor?

For observers of Australian politics, this final question is possibly the most relevant because it addresses the changing demographics of the country and the political sentiment of Asian voters.

According to the 2016 Census, 21% of the population of Bennelong, an electorate on the north-western suburban fringes of Sydney, are of Chinese ancestry, while 4.7% are Korean. This 21% is significantly higher than the national average of 3.9% with Chinese ancestry.

So what did Chinese voters do in the ballot box on Saturday, in an election where the “China Issue” was front and centre, and a major campaigning point for both leading candidates?

On the one side was a government pointing the finger at Beijing, and at Labor opponents, for seeking undue Chinese influence in Australian politics. On the other side, Labor’s Kristina Keneally blasted the government’s “China phobia.”

Analysis of the Bennelong vote by The Australian newspaper found that Chinese voters had largely swung to Labor. The biggest swings against the government came in polling booths with the largest Chinese populations.

In two suburbs, where voters of Chinese ancestry accounted for 34.5% and 32% residents, the swing to Labor was 12% – more than double the average swing of 5%.

Read the rest of the downfall of Bull S. here

http://www.atimes.com/article/china-syndrome-leaves-unanswered-questions-australian-politics/

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 8:27am
Mal sets up the top team for the final victory at the election.




Malcolm Turnbull set to announce crucial cabinet reshuffle — with several MP’s in line for promotions
Sharri Markson National Political Editor, The Daily Telegraph December 19, 2017 12:00am

MALCOLM Turnbull will today announce a crucial cabinet reshuffle, with rising star Christian Porter the new Attorney-General, replacing George Brandis who is off to London as UK High Commissioner in January.

In line for promotion today are Paul Fletcher, Dan Tehan, Craig Laundy and potentially Angus Taylor. Michael Keenan is expected to leave the Justice portfolio.

The Prime Minister has ruled out bringing back former health minister Sussan Ley, after discussing the matter with colleagues­.

With Mr Brandis leaving to accept the UK High Commissioner’s job, which he will take up in late January, the main options to replace him were Mr Porter or Michaelia Cash.


Paul Fletcher is one of the MP’s in line for a promotion.

Sources say Malcolm Turnbull has considered bringing back Sussan Ley.

Craig Laundy.

Dan Tehan.

Mr Turnbull is understood to have chosen Mr Porter, who is a former attorney-general in the WA State Parliament.

There had been hesitation about moving him into the role, with senior government sources pointing out he needs to focus on his marginal electorate, which he faces the real prospect of losing at the next federal election­.

The teams within the Defence, Treasury and Foreign Affairs portfolio are expected to stay in place. Speculation that Defence Minister Marise Payne is leaving her role is understood to be incorrect.

She will remain in Defence, with Christopher Pyne in Defence Industry, with the pair finding a good working relationship.

Today, Mr Turnbull will also launch the new Home Affairs super-ministry with Peter Dutton at the helm.

MORE: SCOMO TO ANNOUNCE SLASHING OF NATIONAL DEBT

Turnbull has spent the past week consulting with colleagues about potential moves.
There is tipped to be a new portfolio of Immigration, Multicultural Affairs and Citizenship and potentially a new Digital, Cyber-affairs ministry.

In the Home Affairs super-ministry, Mr Dutton will have several ministers reporting to him, possibly Alex Hawke, Zed Seselja or Andrew Hastie.


Brandis to be named UK high commissioner.

This cabinet reshuffle has been a year in the making yet Mr Turnbull has spent the past week consulting with colleagues about potential moves to form the team he plans to take to the 2019 federal election­.

Mr Turnbull is understood to have canvassed moving Simon Birmingham sideways out of the Education portfolio as a result of his constituency problem with the Catholic sector during the Gonski 2.0 education reforms, but this is now not expected to eventuate.


Michaelia Cash may be seen as too damaged by scandals.

There has been hesitation to move Christian Porter into the Attorney-General role.
The reshuffle has been fluid, even up until last night, with lists being redrawn and updated over and over again to secure the necessary factional and state quotas while promoting more women.

Women who have been raised in conversations for promotion include Melissa Price, Nicole Flint and Karen Andrews. Arthur Sinodinos’ spot is expected to be temporarily filled until he returns to full health.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/malcolm-turnbull-set-to-announce-crucial-cabinet-reshuffle-with-several-mps-in-line-for-promotions/news-story/008506412b09ee8d8153605a9669ae30

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by red baron on Dec 19th, 2017 at 8:31am
Bill Shorten changes position like a pinball in a machine

He stands flor nothing except vast debt and being in bed with the radical Greens Party

Don't forget... Shorten was AGAINST the Gay Marriage referendum but leapt on board when the result was an outstanding success for the vote

He is a liar in every way and cannot be trusted to take the garbage out let alone run a Country

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by miketrees on Dec 19th, 2017 at 8:44am


Bill Shorten changes position like a pinball in a machine

He stands flor nothing except vast debt and being in bed with the radical Greens Party

Don't forget... Shorten was AGAINST the Gay Marriage referendum but leapt on board when the result was an outstanding success for the vote

He is a liar in every way and cannot be trusted to take the garbage out let alone run a Country


Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen is 100% correct.

Shorten is a liar Billity for Labor and they should seriously consider knifing him before the next election.

I cant see they have a decent alternative however.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 9:22am
Gee this will be all rather devastating for the ever loving Lefty LW.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 19th, 2017 at 9:26am

miketrees wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 8:44am:
Bill Shorten changes position like a pinball in a machine

He stands flor nothing except vast debt and being in bed with the radical Greens Party

Don't forget... Shorten was AGAINST the Gay Marriage referendum but leapt on board when the result was an outstanding success for the vote

He is a liar in every way and cannot be trusted to take the garbage out let alone run a Country


Manfred Albrecht Freiherr von Richthofen is 100% correct.

Shorten is a liar Billity for Labor and they should seriously consider knifing him before the next election.

I cant see they have a decent alternative however.


They don't need an alternative - the Libs will be defeated at the next election, no matter who is leading Labor.


Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 9:31am
The gecko troll is feeling left out and wants some attention.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by greggerypeccary on Dec 19th, 2017 at 9:35am

Its time wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:15am:

Bam wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 7:06am:

Its time wrote on Dec 18th, 2017 at 2:15pm:
Good times  :-/

Has good government finally started ?

Good government is coming in 2019 when Shorten becomes PM.


[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif] sure is Bam



[smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by bogarde73 on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:02am
I won't take up unnecessary space quoting the op, but yes, AGAINST ALL THE ODDS, I can see Turnbull winning the next election.

I am not sensing a doom & gloom atmosphere in business or society generally that would portend a change of government.

Could be wrong of course, but we'll see.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:11am
Bogarde,

You are absolutely positively correct in your observation.

the toxic pariah Bull S. hasn't got a snowball's hope in HELL of ever winning the Federal Election.

The big worry for Mal now is how to keep Bull S. there as the Labor Liability.

Mal's secret weapon is of course NewsPoll which obediently does as Mal asks.

So it stands to reason that NewsPoll will keep giving amazing boosts to Labor until just before the election when the bottom will suddenly fall out for Labor and NewsPoll will start publishing the CORRECT results which will have the Libs ahead by a country mile.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 19th, 2017 at 11:29am
How much goodness can Australia take as the triumphant Lib Govt goes from success to success and saves Australia from being dragged down into the Socialist gutter by the toxic pariah Bull S. ?

Economic success will win the election for the Libs.




Could a boom and budget surplus save Malcolm Turnbull as PM?
By Peter Switzer Published: Monday, December 18, 2017

Hold the press! Positive headline alert coming from major newspapers with Treasurer’s budget showing our debt is $11.9 billion lower than what was forecast!

But wait, there’s more — it’s now conceivable that we could be back into a budget surplus by 2020, which would be great timing, as that’s when I’m going to be more cautious about a US recession and Wall Street crash!

And the timing could not be better for a PM, whose Government has been clobbered for the 25th time in a row by Labor in the popularity survey called Newspoll!

The current score is Labor 53% on a two-party preferred basis to the Coalition on 47 but it was 54-46 on the previous poll, so there’s some improvement. And a booming economy in 2018 with the budget deficit shrinking and debt evaporating might be the news that could turn around Malcolm Turnbull’s Government stocks.

One of the great reasons Australia weathered the GFC storm without a recession was because the Rudd Labor Government inherited a big budget surplus and virtually no debt thanks to the Howard Coalition Government.

For Treasurer Scott Morrison the economy is turning and will help his reputation as the nation’s top bean-counter if he can set Australia up for a budget surplus in three years time.

Today we will hear that the MYEFO — Mid-Year Economic and Fiscal Outlook — will show the budget for this financial year is expected to wind up $11.9 billion better than was guessed at May when the Budget was handed down.

Net debt is tipped to top out at 19.2% of GDP in 2018-19, which was heading to 19.8% in May, but our economy is growing faster than expected and so the deficit and debt drops.

The gross debt improvement will be higher at $23 billion but it still climbs to $583 billion by 2020-21.

A Fairfax report makes a worthwhile point: “Crucially, from this current financial year, the government will no longer have to borrow money to pay for everyday expenditure on pensions, health and education - a year ahead of schedule.”

So how has this improvement happened, given that Labor, the Greens and the rag tag mob of Independents in the Senate have been saying “computer says no” to nearly every money-saving idea put forward since Joe Hockey’s first Budget when the PM was Tony Abbott?

Well, my ex-student Scott Morrison has got a few hardnosed policies across the line to cut spending but it’s mainly economic growth picking up.

Growth leads to higher company profits, great jobs growth this year and slightly higher wages. These development helps the tax take for Canberra and more people with jobs cuts the social welfare spending and every new employee ultimately pays tax rather than receiving the dole.

It all goes to the budget bottom line and if the Oz economy keeps growing in 2018 and 2019, as I’ve tipped for over a year in this column, then the improvement in our finances might not only be better than expected, but it could actually make more Australian voters give Malcolm’s Government another chance in the 2019 poll.

http://www.switzer.com.au/the-experts/peter-switzer-expert/could-a-boom-and-budget-surplus-save-malcolm-turnbull-as-pm/




Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Kat on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:22am

juliar wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:11am:
Bogarde,

You are absolutely positively correct in your observation.

the toxic pariah Bull S. hasn't got a snowball's hope in HELL of ever winning the Federal Election.

The big worry for Mal now is how to keep Bull S. there as the Labor Liability.

Mal's secret weapon is of course NewsPoll which obediently does as Mal asks.

So it stands to reason that NewsPoll will keep giving amazing boosts to Labor until just before the election when the bottom will suddenly fall out for Labor and NewsPoll will start publishing the CORRECT results which will have the Libs ahead by a country mile.

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Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by juliar on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:38am
The Kat seems to have been smelling the catnip.

Truly a powerful force in the discussion of the topic.

And Mal's new super election winning ministry is being sworn in.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Lisa Jones on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:52am


The biggest threat to Labor is Bull Shitten.

It amazes me how the Left can't see such a bleeding obvious fact!

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:58am

bogarde73 wrote on Dec 19th, 2017 at 10:02am:
I won't take up unnecessary space quoting the op, but yes, AGAINST ALL THE ODDS, I can see Turnbull winning the next election.

I am not sensing a doom & gloom atmosphere in business or society generally that would portend a change of government.

Could be wrong of course, but we'll see.


Revolution is imminent, then?  Right-O... because if things don't change for the better, something will break, so Mal and co should get their fingers out of their arses and start working for this country as a whole.

Title: Re: The good times are here as Shorten threat dies
Post by Ye Grappler on Dec 20th, 2017 at 11:01am

juliar wrote on Dec 20th, 2017 at 10:38am:
The Kat seems to have been smelling the catnip.

Truly a powerful force in the discussion of the topic.

And Mal's new super election winning ministry is being sworn in.


Truly a laugh a minute....  ;D  ;D  ;D .. a panel of losers with nothing to offer....

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