Iranian women remove their veils in defiant viral protest  :o

Well done to those women.

Iranians have always been different from Arabs. They have a history of centralization and empire, whilst the latter are more tribal in nature.

If only Islam had been founded in Iran....

Cyrus the Great would be spinning in his grave at Parsagadae.

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Good to see people disobeying the qur'an

Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect.

Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Good girls. bring them out here instead of the usual Iranian nutjobs we let in.

The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil.

Miam miam

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an..

And good to see people obeying the Old Testament.

You?

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Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:45pm:

The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam

Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie?

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie?

I think so, Augie. Gordon's not racist.

He even fingered a Boong.

Karnal wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:09pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? I think so, Augie. Gordon's not racist. He even fingered a Boong.

Quote the original post where I said that, liar.

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:05pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie?

Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to.

It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her.

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her.

Was she good in the sack Gordy. Was she hairy?

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:26pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her.

You often make lascivious comments about women on OzPol.

Can you not, please?

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:26pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her. Was she good in the sack Gordy. Was she hairy?

We were nearly goingto get married.

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:29pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:26pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her. You often make lascivious comments about women on OzPol. Can you not, please?

Are you uptight about matters sexual?

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 3:55pm:

Iranian women remove their veils in defiant viral protest  :o

Iranian hijab protester and her baby have been RELEASED from prison, lawyer says 33 days after she was arrested for waving her headscarf on a pillar box in Tehran

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5324407/Iranian-hijab-protester-RELEASED-prison.html

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:45pm:

Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:29pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:26pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her. You often make lascivious comments about women on OzPol. Can you not, please? Are you uptight about matters sexual?

No, I'm not. I'm uptight about people making lewd comments about women.

Auggie wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:52pm:

Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:45pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:29pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:26pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her. You often make lascivious comments about women on OzPol. Can you not, please? Are you uptight about matters sexual? No, I'm not. I'm uptight about people making lewd comments about women.

I make extreme comments on just about everything.

But in April 2016, officials said there were 7,000 undercover morality police reporting on things like 'bad hijab' - a blanket term usually referring to un-Islamic dress by women.

Figures are rarely given, but Tehran's traffic police said in late 2015 they had dealt with 40,000 cases of bad hijab in cars, where women often let their headscarves drop around their necks.

These cases generally led to fines and a temporary impounding of the vehicle. 


source


Good old muslim boys at it again.

moses wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 4:26pm:

Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode.

Oh dear.

moses has been caught doing something very naughty here.

His quote says:

“Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.”

Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually:

"O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... "

You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses.

Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states:

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original.

Dear oh dear.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:38pm:

moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear.

And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Simple, really.

"... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering?

"The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

"Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women."

Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil?

moses: you've been caught out, my boy.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Simple, really. "... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering? "The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan." "Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women." Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil? moses: you've been caught out, my boy.

Why did you do it, moses?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing?

Quote:

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646

Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing?



The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

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"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

It seems that Baronvonrort doesn't know what 'parentheses' means.

"... no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

;D

Gordon wrote on Jan 31^st, 2018 at 5:44pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:29pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:26pm: Auggie wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 5:05pm: Gordon wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:45pm: The Persian woman I knew removed more than her veil. Miam miam Is that 21st century feminism there, Gordie? Nah, just a woman who was lucky enough to escape an oppressive islamic regime and took every advantage of the modern secular country she immigrated to. It was she who first educated me on the foulness of Islam. Well done her. Was she good in the sack Gordy. Was she hairy? We were nearly goingto get married.

Crikies. She must have been good.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:21pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253 [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252

Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends.

If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

[/quote]

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".


[/quote]

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:38pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:21pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253 [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252 Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends. If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam.

"Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".


[/quote]

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.
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The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:21pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253 [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252 Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends. If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam. "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.
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The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

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But the Hadith do. Are you disputing the authenticity of the Hadith?

Auggie wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:21pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253 [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252 Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends. If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam. "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing. Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.

The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

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But the Hadith do. Are you disputing the authenticity of the Hadith?[/quote]

I'm addressing the post from moses.

He said: "Good to see people disobeying the qur'an".

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:41pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:21pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253 [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252 Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends. If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam. "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators".

Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing.

Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam.
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The Quran does not require women to wear a veil.

I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

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The quran doesn't say anything about stoning to death for adultery yet every muslim will say that is the punishment for adultery.

The Saudis,Iranians, Taliban,Boko Haram, Al Shaabab all stone people to death for adultery, Indonesia tried to bring back stoning to death a few years ago.

Muslims also have something called the sunnah - for sunnis it's abudawud,Bukhari,Muslim, etc while the Shia have Al Kafi, the doctrinal differences bewteen the sects come from the sunnah not the quran.

All you are showing is how ignorant Islamic apologists like you really are when it comes to Islam.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 12:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Simple, really. "... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering? "The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan." "Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women." Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil? moses: you've been caught out, my boy.

Busted!    :)

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:46pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:41pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:38pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:21pm: Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:04pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Quote: “O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful” [al-Ahzaab 33:59] https://islamqa.info/en/13646 Sheik Munajid does the same thing will little pecca accuse the oldest Islamic website on the internet of the exact same thing? The veil is mentioned in the Sunnah [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed for three rights between Khaibar and Medina and was married to Safiya. I invited the Muslim to h s marriage banquet and there wa neither meat nor bread in that banquet but the Prophet ordered Bilal to spread the leather mats on which dates, dried yogurt and butter were put. The Muslims said amongst themselves, "Will she (i.e. Safiya) be one of the mothers of the believers, (i.e. one of the wives of the Prophet (ﷺ) ) or just (a lady captive) of what his right-hand possesses" Some of them said, "If the Prophet (ﷺ) makes her observe the veil, then she will be one of the mothers of the believers (i.e. one of the Prophet's wives), and if he does not make her observe the veil, then she will be his lady slave." So when he departed, he made a place for her behind him (on his and made her observe the veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/253 [quote] The Prophet (ﷺ) stayed with Safiya bint Huyai for three days on the way of Khaibar where he consummated his marriage with her. Safiya was amongst those who were ordered to use a veil. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/64/252 Muhammad married Safiya on the very same day her husband was killed when muslims conquered her jewish tribe, this is the type of person little pecca defends. If any other relgion made the hijab mandatory little pecca would squeal like a stuck pig for some reason he always defends the backward belief called Islam. "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". Sheik Munajid from Saudi Arabia also adds parentheses to translations it's a common thing. Does little pecca have a problem with a Saudi imam with the oldest Islamic website on the internet doing that, perhaps little pecca thinks he knows more than a Saudi imam when it comes to Islam. The Quran does not require women to wear a veil. I suggest you get hold of a copy, and see for yourself.

But the Hadith do. Are you disputing the authenticity of the Hadith?[/quote]

I'm addressing the post from moses.

He said: "Good to see people disobeying the qur'an".

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What Moses means is that they are defying the authorities in Islam.

You need to read between the lines.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 2:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Simple, really. "... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering? "The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan." "Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women." Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil? moses: you've been caught out, my boy. Busted!    :)

Your link is not a credible source on Islam, the apologists have no shame in defending Islam.

The Quran is not the only book muslims follow they also have the Sunnah. The Sunnah was created to include all the things they left out of the Quran. Muslims claim the bible was corrupted so they couldn't change the Quran after it was written or they would be doing exactly what they accused Christians of doing in corrupting the bible so they came up with the Sunnah.

No prayer instructions in the Quran as well so how do muslims know how to tap their heads on the ground with their asses in the air while facing Mecca?

The Islamic apologists like little pecca like defending the most backward of all the religions, the muslims are the only religion still executing atheists.

Baronvonrort wrote on Feb 1^st, 2018 at 3:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 2:53pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 1st, 2018 at 12:38pm: moses wrote on Jan 31st, 2018 at 4:26pm: Qur’an 33:59 “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Good to see people disobeying the qur'an Another crack in islam, women recognizing that the qur'an is not perfect. Once people start to be honest about it, islam will implode. Oh dear. moses has been caught doing something very naughty here. His quote says: “Prophet! Tell your wives and daughters and all Muslim women to draw cloaks and veils all over their bodies (screening themselves completely except for one or two eyes to see the way). That will be better.” Yet, when we follow his link, the quote is actually: "O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e.screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better ... " You'll note that the proper quote - not the edited one from moses - has "veils" in parentheses. Now, when we look at the top of the page that moses has cited as his reference, it quite clearly states: "Note that any text in parentheses was added by the translators". moses has deliberately altered someone else's text (in order to support his own argument), and then tried to pass it off as the original. Dear oh dear. And why did moses do such a naughty thing? Simple, really. "... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering? "The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan." "Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women." Does the Quran Require Women to Wear the Veil? moses: you've been caught out, my boy. Busted!    :) Your link is not a credible source on Islam, the apologists have no shame in defending Islam. The Quran is not the only book muslims follow they also have the Sunnah. The Sunnah was created to include all the things they left out of the Quran. Muslims claim the bible was corrupted so they couldn't change the Quran after it was written or they would be doing exactly what they accused Christians of doing in corrupting the bible so they came up with the Sunnah. No prayer instructions in the Quran as well so how do muslims know how to tap their heads on the ground with their asses in the air while facing Mecca? The Islamic apologists like little pecca like defending the most backward of all the religions, the muslims are the only religion still executing atheists.

Try to focus.

moses specifically said: "Good to see people disobeying the qur'an".

"... does the Quran, in fact, require women to cover themselves—with a veil, a chador or any other form of head covering?

"The quick answer is no: the Quran has no requirement that women cover their faces with a veil, or cover their bodies with the full-body burqua or chador, as in Iran and Afghanistan."

"Regarding manners of dress, and other than that passage, the Quran requires only that women and men dress modestly. Beyond that, it never requires face or full-body coverings of any form for men or women."

Keep trying   ;)

Good to see that the bits in brackets are actually not true.

However 24.31 below has the word veil not enclosed in brackets, so veil is used in the qur'an as a means of covering.

Veil is also used in the hadith, apologists are drawing a long string, when they try and say veil is not part of the prescribed womens clothing.

24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.

As far as I'm concerned the word veil used in hadith and qur'an means exactly that, a veil.

In the below verse:

24.33. And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable) goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly).

The verse is clearly talking about forced sex, rape, and allah forgiving the muslim rapist.

Now according to our apologists the excuse that muslims use i.e. allah is forgiving the woman for being raped, is a lie.

The bit about forgiving the woman for being raped is in brackets, according to our apologists this is a late add on and is untrue.

So our apologists have admitted that islam urges rape.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 2:46pm:

Good to see that the bits in brackets are actually not true. However 24.31 below has the word veil not enclosed in brackets, so veil is used in the qur'an as a means of covering. Veil is also used in the hadith, apologists are drawing a long string, when they try and say veil is not part of the prescribed womens clothing. 24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. As far as I'm concerned the word veil used in hadith and qur'an means exactly that, a veil. In the below verse: 24.33. And let those who find not the financial means for marriage keep themselves chaste, until Allah enriches them of His Bounty. And such of your slaves as seek a writing (of emancipation), give them such writing, if you know that they are good and trustworthy. And give them something yourselves out of the wealth of Allah which He has bestowed upon you. And force not your maids to prostitution, if they desire chastity, in order that you may make a gain in the (perishable) goods of this worldly life. But if anyone compels them (to prostitution), then after such compulsion, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful (to those women, i.e. He will forgive them because they have been forced to do this evil action unwillingly). The verse is clearly talking about forced sex, rape, and allah forgiving the muslim rapist. Now according to our apologists the excuse that muslims use i.e. allah is forgiving the woman for being raped, is a lie. The bit about forgiving the woman for being raped is in brackets, according to our apologists this is a late add on and is untrue. So our apologists have admitted that islam urges rape.

Why did you remove the brackets?

I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original.

However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women.

Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 2:57pm:

I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::)

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 2:57pm:

I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

Yeah, that must be it - a mistake.

You accidentally went to the middle of a sentence and removed a pair of brackets, and then added the word "and".

Happens all the time.

For the umpteenth time, I made a mistake.

However veil (not in brackets) is used in the qur'an and the hadith as prescribed islamic dress.

Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:10pm:

For the umpteenth time, I made a mistake. However veil (not in brackets) is used in the qur'an and the hadith as prescribed islamic dress. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

Nope.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:10pm:

For the umpteenth time, I made a mistake. However veil (not in brackets) is used in the qur'an and the hadith as prescribed islamic dress. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

Oh, whoops - I mistakenly removed a pair of brackets.

Oh, whoops - I mistakenly added the word "and" in front of "veil".

My mistake.

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Well O.K. I didn't make a mistake.

Can you tell us which bits in the qur'an are true: the verse where veil is in brackets, or the verse with veil not in brackets?

Is veil used in the hadith?

Oh once again, heartfelt thanks that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:16pm:

Well O.K. I didn't make a mistake. Can you tell us which bits in the qur'an are true: the verse where veil is in brackets, or the verse with veil not in brackets? Is veil used in the hadith? Oh once again, heartfelt thanks that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women.

'Veil' isn't in the Quran .

Brackets, or no brackets.

The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:47pm:

The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils.

The Quran doesn't instruct muslims to stone people to death for adultery yet all muslims say that is the prescribed punishment.

The Quran doesn't instruct muslims on how to pray so where do they find those instructions?

The Quran doesn't contain the 5 pillars of Islam so where do muslims find that info?

The Quran is not the only book muslims use for Islam they also use the Sunnah.

Little Pecca is showing his ignorance with Islam again, why does he defend a religion that still executes people for becoming an atheist?

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #42 - Today at 3:47pm

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'Veil' isn't in the Quran . Brackets, or no brackets. The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils.

OH I beg to differ.

qur'an 24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #42 - Today at 3:47pm Quote: 'Veil' isn't in the Quran . Brackets, or no brackets. The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils. OH I beg to differ. .

The Muhsin Khan translations mention veils in the Quran.

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:53pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #42 - Today at 3:47pm Quote: 'Veil' isn't in the Quran . Brackets, or no brackets. The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils. OH I beg to differ. qur'an 24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.

Begging will get you nowhere.

The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils.

greggerypeccary wrote:
Quote:

The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils.

qur'an 24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful.

It seems you're wrong.

Oh have I thanked you for showing us how muslims are instructed to rape women in the qur'an, you know the excuse that allah is forgiving the woman for being raped is, well shall we say bullshit?

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 4:27pm:

greggerypeccary wrote: Quote: The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils. qur'an 24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. It seems you're wrong. Oh have I thanked you for showing us how muslims are instructed to rape women in the qur'an, you know the excuse that allah is forgiving the woman for being raped is, well shall we say bullshit?

The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:01pm:

moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::)

What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it?

Quote:

The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils.

But it does say muslim men can rape women? allah will forgive them?

moses wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 4:35pm:

Quote: The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils. But it does say muslim men can rape women? allah will forgive them?

Are you thinking of converting?

---aaaaand be a victim all my life?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 4:18pm:

moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:53pm: greggerypeccary wrote: Reply #42 - Today at 3:47pm Quote: 'Veil' isn't in the Quran . Brackets, or no brackets. The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils. OH I beg to differ. qur'an 24.31. And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts, etc.) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like palms of hands or one eye or both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer dress like veil, gloves, head-cover, apron, etc.), and to draw their veils all over Juyubihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms, etc.) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husband's sons, their brothers or their brother's sons, or their sister's sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful. Begging will get you nowhere. The Quran does NOT instruct women to wear veils.

You stupid back door deirdre.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:47pm:

moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:16pm: Well O.K. I didn't make a mistake. Can you tell us which bits in the qur'an are true: the verse where veil is in brackets, or the verse with veil not in brackets? Is veil used in the hadith? Oh once again, heartfelt thanks that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. 'Veil' isn't in the Quran . Brackets, or no brackets. The Quran doesn't instruct women to wear veils.

Ignorant back door deirdre.

Auggie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 4:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it?

Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie.

How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?   

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 3:01pm:

moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::)

Just a bump, for Moses.   It's interesting that he has ignored the question.   Could it be because it challenges his Islamophobic bigotry?  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 6:27pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?

A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding??

Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them.

Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe?

Auggie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe?

Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public.

Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 6:55pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last.

Next red herring.

Auggie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring.

We are forced to wear clothes in public.

Why do you condone this oppression?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:14pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring. We are forced to wear clothes in public. Why do you condone this oppression?

Do you want to continue with this stupid line of questioning when you fully know that there is a distinction between the two?

Auggie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:14pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring. We are forced to wear clothes in public. Why do you condone this oppression? Do you want to continue with this stupid line of questioning when you fully know that there is a distinction between the two?

Oh, I want to continue alright.

I have you right where I want you, so I'm not backing off now.

I don't like wearing clothes (and there are thousands more just like me).

However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public.

If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up.

Why do you condone such oppression from our government?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

I don't like wearing clothes

Ok.


greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

(and there are thousands more just like me)

Perverts?


greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public.

Most sane people would would be grateful for those laws, unless you were a p


greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up

About time!


greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Why do you condone such oppression from our government?

To keep people like you off the streets, bloody p

kemal wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 8:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: I don't like wearing clothes Ok. greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: (and there are thousands more just like me) Perverts? greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public. Most sane people would would be grateful for those laws, unless you were a p greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up About time! greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: Why do you condone such oppression from our government? To keep people like you off the streets, bloody p

Naked is the way we were born.

There is nothing more natural in the world.

How can you call naked people perverts?

And how can you condone the government oppression that forces us to wear clothes?

Fascist!

Auggie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 6:30pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe?

How about you answer the question, Augie?   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:04pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? How about you answer the question, Augie?   ::)

In some countries it is. And in some communities as well.

Auggie wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:04pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? How about you answer the question, Augie?   ::) In some countries it is. And in some communities as well.

Try again, Augie.  Only one more chance...   ::)

Iranian women are risking their freedom by removing their veils while in Australia progressives support the regressive religion which promotes it.

This moment of history will be looked back on with incredulity. 

Gordon wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:52pm:

Iranian women are risking their freedom by removing their veils while in Australia progressives support the regressive religion which promotes it. This moment of history will be looked back on with incredulity.

And just think, Gordon, you could have married one once.

That daughter of yours could be tinted.

Lucky you went for the Boong, no?

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 9:50pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:42pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:04pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? How about you answer the question, Augie?   ::) In some countries it is. And in some communities as well. Try again, Augie.  Only one more chance...   ::)

Asked and answered, BR.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:14pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring. We are forced to wear clothes in public. Why do you condone this oppression? Do you want to continue with this stupid line of questioning when you fully know that there is a distinction between the two? Oh, I want to continue alright. I have you right where I want you, so I'm not backing off now. I don't like wearing clothes (and there are thousands more just like me). However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public. If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up. Why do you condone such oppression from our government?

This isn’t about ‘choice’ greggy. A woman can wear whatsoever she wants. This is about symbolism. Hijab means separation in Arabic and its symbolism is that the woman should dress modestly because men are unable to control themselves, etc. Men are not expected to wear a hijab.

Regarding everyday clothes, i don’t think I need to dignify your stupid question with an answer.

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 11:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:14pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring. We are forced to wear clothes in public. Why do you condone this oppression? Do you want to continue with this stupid line of questioning when you fully know that there is a distinction between the two? Oh, I want to continue alright. I have you right where I want you, so I'm not backing off now. I don't like wearing clothes (and there are thousands more just like me). However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public. If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up. Why do you condone such oppression from our government? This isn’t about ‘choice’ greggy. A woman can wear whatsoever she wants. This is about symbolism. Hijab means separation in Arabic and its symbolism is that the woman should dress modestly because men are unable to control themselves, etc. Men are not expected to wear a hijab. Regarding everyday clothes, i don’t think I need to dignify your stupid question with an answer.

You mean you can't answer it.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 11:16am:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:14pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring. We are forced to wear clothes in public. Why do you condone this oppression? Do you want to continue with this stupid line of questioning when you fully know that there is a distinction between the two? Oh, I want to continue alright. I have you right where I want you, so I'm not backing off now. I don't like wearing clothes (and there are thousands more just like me). However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public. If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up. Why do you condone such oppression from our government? This isn’t about ‘choice’ greggy. A woman can wear whatsoever she wants. This is about symbolism. Hijab means separation in Arabic and its symbolism is that the woman should dress modestly because men are unable to control themselves, etc. Men are not expected to wear a hijab. Regarding everyday clothes, i don’t think I need to dignify your stupid question with an answer. You mean you can't answer it.

Clothing is the natural result of a civilised society. Clothing is neutral generally and has no symbolism. Also, the way we dress isn’t based on any religious sentiment; it’s purely secular in nature.

Regarding the enforcement of clothing, it’s nevessary to protect ‘children’ from being exposed to adult nudity which is sensible. The enforcement of the islamic headscarf is to reinforce the idea that women are sinful and responsible for men’s desires.

Ergo, there is a significant difference.

"Iranian women remove their veils"

This is one gigantic leap forward for all the oppressed women of the ancient barbaric cult that refuse to move with the times, women now have one weapon to fight back and that is the social media, sure many will still be stoned to death, whipped and imprisoned but eventually these oppressors will be made to look like the gutless freaks who rule with fear that they are, they will be belittled and crushed in a few thousand years.

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 11:47am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:16am: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:23pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:19pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:14pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 7:11pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Try going to Woolworths tomorrow morning with no pants on, and see how long you last. Next red herring. We are forced to wear clothes in public. Why do you condone this oppression? Do you want to continue with this stupid line of questioning when you fully know that there is a distinction between the two? Oh, I want to continue alright. I have you right where I want you, so I'm not backing off now. I don't like wearing clothes (and there are thousands more just like me). However, I'm forced - by LAW - to wear clothes when I go out in public. If I don't, I can be arrested and locked up. Why do you condone such oppression from our government? This isn’t about ‘choice’ greggy. A woman can wear whatsoever she wants. This is about symbolism. Hijab means separation in Arabic and its symbolism is that the woman should dress modestly because men are unable to control themselves, etc. Men are not expected to wear a hijab. Regarding everyday clothes, i don’t think I need to dignify your stupid question with an answer. You mean you can't answer it. Clothing is the natural result of a civilised society. Clothing is neutral generally and has no symbolism. Also, the way we dress isn’t based on any religious sentiment; it’s purely secular in nature. Regarding the enforcement of clothing, it’s nevessary to protect ‘children’ from being exposed to adult nudity which is sensible. The enforcement of the islamic headscarf is to reinforce the idea that women are sinful and responsible for men’s desires. Ergo, there is a significant difference.

Nudist colonies?    :-/

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 6:55pm:

Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public.

Move to the PNG, turd.  Or an empty island.

But if you want to live among civilised people you have to fit in.  We know it's hard for you but there you are: you can be a savage elsewhere or you fit into civilisation.

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 1:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:55pm: Men and women in this country are forced to wear clothes in public. Move to the PNG, turd.  Or an empty island. But if you want to live among civilised people you have to fit in.  We know it's hard for you but there you are: you can be a savage elsewhere or you fit into civilisation.

People have been born naked, in every civilisation across the globe, since the beginning of human existence.

You're a fascist oppressor.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:17pm:

People have been born naked, in every civilisation across the globe, since the beginning of human existence.

And most societies evolve, unless you decide to remain uncivilised like your relatives Littlepecca...........and the start of 'human existence' was eons ago, so HTF do you know how they dressed then, wasn't it bearskins or other animal skins they wore to keep their Littlepecca warm?

And you really wouldn't be 'born' with a three-piece-suit on would you dickhead?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2018 at 7:23pm:

I don't like wearing clothes (and there are thousands more just like me).

There were people in Saudi Arabia who liked to be naked in public before Islamic rule took over.


Quote:

During the Pre-Islamic period of Ignorance, the people used to perform Tawaf of the Ka`ba naked except the Hums; and the Hums were Quraish and their offspring. The Hums used to give clothes to the men who would perform the Tawaf wearing them; and women (of the Hums) used to give clothes to the women who would perform the Tawaf wearing them. Those to whom the Hums did not give clothes would perform Tawaf round the Ka`ba naked. https://sunnah.com/bukhari/25/146

Back to the veil-

Quote:

The Prophet (ﷺ) said: Allah does not accept the prayer of a woman who has reached puberty unless she wears a veil. https://sunnah.com/abudawud/2/251

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 2:17pm: People have been born naked, in every civilisation across the globe, since the beginning of human existence. And most societies evolve, unless you decide to remain uncivilised like you relatives Littlepecca...........and the start of 'human existence' was eons ago, so HTF do you know how they dressed then, wasn't it bearskins or other animal skins they wore to keep their Littlepecca warm? And you really wouldn't be 'born' with a three-piece-suit on would you dickhead?

Which society is giving birth to fully clothed babies, comrade?

I'm curious.

https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.310976831.8025/flat,800x800,075,f.u2.jpg

Not curious, just spurious Littlepecca.....

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:48pm:

Not curious, just spurious Littlepecca.....

So, what you're telling me is ...

http://www.singlegirlsrock.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/skeptic.jpg

... no society has evolved to the point of giving birth to fully clothed babies?

Seems like we were meant to be naked, huh?

I've no doubt that you are a serial flasher littlepecca.......you sound as though you'd be at home in one of those pervy mackintoshes hiding in the bushes in Vicky Park............

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 2:55pm:

I've no doubt that you are a serial flasher littlepecca.......you sound as though you'd be at home in one of those pervy mackintoshes hiding in the bushes in Vicky Park............

I'll take that as a 'no', shall I?

http://cdn-i.imagechef.com/ic/templimgF/Flasher.gif

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 11:08am:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:50pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:42pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:04pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? How about you answer the question, Augie?   ::) In some countries it is. And in some communities as well. Try again, Augie.  Only one more chance...   ::) Asked and answered, BR.

Ah, so you don't think it's an "enforced" piece of clothing then, Augie?   So, then why are you attacking me and not Moses who told that fib?  Mmmm?    ::)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU8IyV0X4AAJofy.jpg

See also vid:https://twitter.com/johntruman_/status/959202236936216578/video/1

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 11:08am: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:50pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:42pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 9:04pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:30pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 6:27pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 4:34pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 3:01pm: moses wrote on Feb 2nd, 2018 at 2:57pm: I have  no idea, a bad (according to you) mistake, I admit that my copy is  not exactly as the original. However I see that verse 24.31 and the hadith uses the word veil, I'm convinced that veil is indeed a part of enforced islamic dress code for women. Good to see that you have shown us how the excuse that allah is forgiving the women for being raped is untrue, muslims are taught it's legitimate to rape women. If it is "enforced", Moses, why then do so many Muslim women not wear them?   Few if the Muslim women I know wear a Hijab or a Burqa or Niqab.   Strange, I must say for an "enforced" item of wear...   Are they all apostates?   Really?    ::) ::) What about those who believe they’ll burn for eternity if they don’t wear it? Or those who are killed for not wearing it? Victims of a misunderstanding of the instructions?  Perhaps they need to reread them?   The women are not to blame.   The perpetrators of those crimes are, I'd suggest, Augie. How about you?  Do you think it's actually an "enforced" item of wear for all Muslim women?    A misunderstanding?? Was the holocaust a misunderstanding?? Women in some countries are forced to wear it. Many others endure familial and social pressure to wear them. Here's a question: why don't men wear the headscarfe? How about you answer the question, Augie?   ::) In some countries it is. And in some communities as well. Try again, Augie.  Only one more chance...   ::) Asked and answered, BR. Ah, so you don't think it's an "enforced" piece of clothing then, Augie?   So, then why are you attacking me and not Moses who told that fib?  Mmmm?    ::)

You asked me the question and I answered it.

My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

Auggie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:30pm:

You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?”

No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::)

We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.   

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do.

Focus.

"Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do. Focus. "Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't."

So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition??? ;D ;D ;D ;D I don't think so. It might not be law but it's  sure  forced socially. ;D ;D ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:46pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do. Focus. "Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't." So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's  sure  forced socially.

Correct.

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Absolutely.

Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance.

But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.

These are signs of women's submission to Allah who says they, the women, are satan's tempters of men, worth only half as much as men and must be kept out of sight lest men cannot control themselves. Islam is very superstitious in a late antiquity kind of way. Hence its endless rules for every act.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do. Focus. "Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't." So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's  sure  forced socially. Correct.

enforcement is enforcement pecca.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:36pm:

Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) So, you won’t condemn a medieval 7th century practice of segregation and misogyny. So much for being tolerant of the intolerant, Brian We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do. Focus. "Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't." So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's  sure  forced socially. Correct. enforcement is enforcement pecca.

Indeed.

And ignorance is ignorance, Homo.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:16pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:15pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:50pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:46pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:40pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    It's not enforced??? Even western women entering many muslims countries are told to wear it. Turkey, Egypt, Malaysia may not but most of the rest do. Focus. "Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't." So only "some " Muslim societies enforce the hair covering tradition???I don't think so. It might not be law but it's  sure  forced socially. Correct. enforcement is enforcement pecca. Indeed. And ignorance is ignorance, Homo.

Ignorance is not understanding how pressuring Muslim societies are on women. Woman who don't wear hair coverings in most muslim countries are seen as sl uts. They have no choice but to wear the bloody thing.

Frank wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:

kemal wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:43pm: Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement? Absolutely. Bwian has no idea about most things but he vehemently defends this particular area of his ignorance. But of course he is a liar as well. He knows very well that the hijab and thee niqab and the burqa are signs of Muslim male oppression and fear of women.

Tell me, Soren, what evidence do you have that the veil is an "enforced" piece of clothing within Islam?


Quote:

These are signs of women's submission to Allah who says they, the women, are satan's tempters of men, worth only half as much as men and must be kept out of sight lest men cannot control themselves. Islam is very superstitious in a late antiquity kind of way. Hence its endless rules for every act.

There are signs of women's submission to Christ who, through Saint Paul, said that they, women are satan's tempters of men, worth only less than men and must be silent, be subservient to men, how they must dress and so on.  Christianity is very superstitious in a late antiquity kind of way. Hence its endless rules.  Tsk, tsk, Soren.    ::)

The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way.
Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:32pm:

The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way. Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys.

He'd love you, then.

You're always talking out your ass.


https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/badum-tish-gif-8.gif

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:36pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:32pm: The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way. Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys. He'd love you, then. You're always talking out your ass. https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/badum-tish-gif-8.gif

At least i am not a horses arse,, boom tish.

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:44pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:36pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:32pm: The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way. Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys. He'd love you, then. You're always talking out your ass. https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/badum-tish-gif-8.gif At least i am not a horses arse,, boom tish.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkFXbmELw6c

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 5:50pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:44pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:36pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 5:32pm: The Iranian women have some back up now, social media. Times they are a changing and the ancient oppressive cult is getting called out every which way. Mohammad would not approve of mobile phones, he prefers flying rocks and talking donkeys. He'd love you, then. You're always talking out your ass. https://gifimage.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/badum-tish-gif-8.gif At least i am not a horses arse,, boom tish. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkFXbmELw6c

A bit late Gronk, the moment has passed.

I hope these women have not been stoned to death for their actions, it will be caught on video and downloaded to the world   
for all to see, start running oppressors the women are Jacked off.

kemal wrote on Feb 3^rd, 2018 at 4:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:36pm: Auggie wrote on Feb 3rd, 2018 at 4:30pm: You asked me the question and I answered it. My turn. Question: “do you believe the hijab is a symbol of female empowerment?” No idea.  I am neither female nor Muslim.  Some women decry it, some applaud it.  Why not ask Muslim women directly what they think about it, Augie, instead of imposing your ideas on them?   Mmmm?    ::) We have established it is not an "enforced" item of clothing.   Some Muslims may enforce it but the majority don't.  Depends, I suspect on how traditional the society that they live in.   Which is the same for all societies.  Modern ones tend to have more modern mores.    Can others see the total stupidity of the highlighted statement?

Thank you. I'm glad I'm not the only one who sees it for what it is.