Muslims Like Us




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10 Australian Muslims live together for eight days in social experiment 'Muslims Like Us'.
Over two nights - 8.30pm, 21 & 22 February on SBS



Quote:

Muslims make up less than three per cent of the Australian population, yet dominate the news headlines and are often misunderstood. In a new SBS documentary, 10 Muslim Australians with vastly different views on their faith live under one roof for eight days to explore what it means to be a Muslim in modern, multicultural Australia.

https://www.sbs.com.au/guide/article/2018/01/19/what-it-means-be-muslim-modern-australia

"THERE ARE 1.6 BILLION WAYS TO BE MUSLIM"

A sign presented, during the promo for this SBS production




#1, "Its not about praying five times a day."        contrary... Only an infidel does not pray five times a day - ISLAMIC LAW

#2, "ISLAM requires you to critically analyse the teachings and the book."        contrary... Koran 5.101, 102

#3, "Suicide bombing is not allowed in ISLAM."        contrary... Koran 9.111

ISLAMIC LAW and Koran verses, cited, below.....



"THERE ARE 1.6 BILLION WAYS TO BE MUSLIM"

Yeah, coz moslem women can marry infidels.        NOT
And moslems can have friendships with those who are not moslems.        NOT
And moslems can lawfully, and intentionally, misrepresent what ISLAM is, to a non-moslem.        TRUE
And moslems can have jobs.        TRUE
And moslems can lawfully steal from infidels.        TRUE
And moslems can tell the truth.        TRUE
And moslems can lawfully lie.        TRUE
And moslems can defend fellow moslems.        TRUE
And moslems can lawfully kill those who are not moslems.        TRUE


And moslems can appear on an SBS Australia production, which is broadcast nationally in Australia, and the moslems can totally misrepresent what ISLAM is, to their fellow Australians.        TRUE

And not a single person at SBS Australia, needs to be accountable for the veracity [...or lack of!] of what is broadcast in the SBS documentary.       TRUE

And that,      is the low-bar of journalistic values and of source material integrity, which is 'on offer' at a national broadcaster, in Australia, circa 2018        TRUE




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#2,
"O ye who believe!        Ask not questions        about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble.....
Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith."
Koran 5.101, 102


#3,
"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51


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WHAT MOHAMMED SAID.....

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

#1,
"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

#1,
"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."




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Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE "...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems." "....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God." "...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God." "...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM." "...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does." "...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]" "...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Reality of what Muslims believe versus the unreality of what Yadda believes they believe.  What a funny old world, hey?   TV that is interesting and thought provoking.    ::)

Khaja himself had said he was motivated not by watching YouTube videos but "straight from the verses of Quran".


The facial expression of a would-be terrorist talking about killing as many innocent people as he could was "like he was planning a picnic", according to a Sydney judge.

Tamim Khaja, 20, who has pleaded guilty to doing an act in preparation for, or planning a terrorist act, had been to scope out potential target buildings in Sydney including the Parramatta District Court precinct and Timor Army Barracks.

At his sentencing hearing in the Supreme Court at Parramatta on Friday, Justice Desmond Fagan referred to surveillance footage of Khaja speaking with two undercover police officers.

"He is filmed talking to people he thought were of the same ideology as he directs them to Timor Barracks at Dundas, and his facial expression when talking about killing as many innocent people as he could was very much like he was planning a picnic," the judge said.

Justice Fagan described the then-teenager's face as expressionless - as it was when he spoke about having a large enough car to drive into people.

"He does seem in a state of a possessed religious fanaticism, devoid of empathy or humanity," the judge said.

He also stressed that the Muslim religion was not on trial but, as sentencing judge, he had to try and identify the source of Khaja's "depraved belief".

Khaja himself had said he was motivated not by watching YouTube videos but "straight from the verses of Quran".

At his sentence hearing on Friday, the prosecutor tendered an agreed statement of facts.

It includes numerous comments he made on an encrypted messaging application and during meetings with the two undercover officers.

In May 2016, he met the pair at Parramatta and they drove to the Pirtek Stadium car park in that suburb.

"For an attack like this is taken in Australia akhi (brother), it would weaken the Australian government so much," Khaja said.

"So that's why I am saying when I say maximum fire, I mean to take down as many of them down as I can, and at the end when I see that there's too many I will take myself with them as well."

He later said police officers were the best targets but it needn't be them.

"Honestly my heart is leaning towards the court."

Later Khaja said he would keep in mind that "it's happening for the sake of Allah" if anyone comes in his way.

"So I'm not going to stop firing. I'm not going to stop firing wallahi (I swear to Allah).

"If there's like a two-month-old baby, or someone holding a baby, I'm just trying to think if that's true, I wouldn't buckle in that situation akhi.

"No, I wouldn't buckle.

"There's no turning back akhi."

The hearing is continuing.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/terrorist-talk-was-like-planning-a-picnic-judge-20180216-h0w8ba.html

Which ones are sitting around having a beer while eating a bacon and egg burger, they are the one I want to talk to.

Being a superstitious backward loon means you will never be like 'us'

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Gordon wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 3:18pm:

Khaja himself had said he was motivated not by watching YouTube videos but "straight from the verses of Quran". The facial expression of a would-be terrorist talking about killing as many innocent people as he could was "like he was planning a picnic", according to a Sydney judge. Tamim Khaja, 20, who has pleaded guilty to doing an act in preparation for, or planning a terrorist act, had been to scope out potential target buildings in Sydney including the Parramatta District Court precinct and Timor Army Barracks. At his sentencing hearing in the Supreme Court at Parramatta on Friday, Justice Desmond Fagan referred to surveillance footage of Khaja speaking with two undercover police officers. "He is filmed talking to people he thought were of the same ideology as he directs them to Timor Barracks at Dundas, and his facial expression when talking about killing as many innocent people as he could was very much like he was planning a picnic," the judge said. Justice Fagan described the then-teenager's face as expressionless - as it was when he spoke about having a large enough car to drive into people. "He does seem in a state of a possessed religious fanaticism, devoid of empathy or humanity," the judge said. He also stressed that the Muslim religion was not on trial but, as sentencing judge, he had to try and identify the source of Khaja's "depraved belief". Khaja himself had said he was motivated not by watching YouTube videos but "straight from the verses of Quran". At his sentence hearing on Friday, the prosecutor tendered an agreed statement of facts. It includes numerous comments he made on an encrypted messaging application and during meetings with the two undercover officers. In May 2016, he met the pair at Parramatta and they drove to the Pirtek Stadium car park in that suburb. "For an attack like this is taken in Australia akhi (brother), it would weaken the Australian government so much," Khaja said. "So that's why I am saying when I say maximum fire, I mean to take down as many of them down as I can, and at the end when I see that there's too many I will take myself with them as well." He later said police officers were the best targets but it needn't be them. "Honestly my heart is leaning towards the court." Later Khaja said he would keep in mind that "it's happening for the sake of Allah" if anyone comes in his way. "So I'm not going to stop firing. I'm not going to stop firing wallahi (I swear to Allah). "If there's like a two-month-old baby, or someone holding a baby, I'm just trying to think if that's true, I wouldn't buckle in that situation akhi. "No, I wouldn't buckle. "There's no turning back akhi." The hearing is continuing. http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/terrorist-talk-was-like-planning-a-picnic-judge-20180216-h0w8ba.html

Muslims like us! I have always trusted SBS, in fact I trust all the mainstream media, why wouldn't they have our best interests at heart.
Open the floodgates even wider, what could go wrong.
In SBS we trust.
I am sure the following week they will give the other side of the story to be fair and balanced.

Yadda wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 3:01pm:

Muslims Like Us

And we like them, Yadda.

And we like them.

Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems?

Anyone?

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Muslims like us! I have always trusted SBS, in fact I trust all the mainstream media, why wouldn't they have our best interests at heart. Open the floodgates even wider, what could go wrong. In SBS we trust. I am sure the following week they will give the other side of the story to be fair and balanced.

yes, since muslims who kill are of more significance

Karnal wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 5:34pm:

Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone?

It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told.

If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends.

It's a funny old world, innit?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 6:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit?

Do many people use the word Infidel these days, can infidels be friends, I like pork sausages so I am probably an infidel, I don't care but they probably do.

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 6:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? Do many people use the word Infidel these days, can infidels be friends, I like pork sausages so I am probably an infidel, I don't care but they probably do.

Do many people use the word 'sausage', these days?

If they don't say 'snagger', can they really be trusted?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? Do many people use the word Infidel these days, can infidels be friends, I like pork sausages so I am probably an infidel, I don't care but they probably do. Do many people use the word 'sausage', these days? If they don't say 'snagger', can they really be trusted?

I think that's a snag, or the plural snags, snagger must be a sand groper term, I like the word sausage, it sounds so much more sophisticated, pork sausages with bbq sauce and a jug of beer with no Muslims within sight ahhh happy days.

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 7:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:45pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? Do many people use the word Infidel these days, can infidels be friends, I like pork sausages so I am probably an infidel, I don't care but they probably do. Do many people use the word 'sausage', these days? If they don't say 'snagger', can they really be trusted? I think that's a snag, or the plural snags, snagger must be a sand groper term, I like the word sausage, it sounds so much more sophisticated, pork sausages with bbq sauce and a jug of beer with no Muslims within sight ahhh happy days.

I'm just going by the PMs that Booby sent me.

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snagger

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 7:05pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:45pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? Do many people use the word Infidel these days, can infidels be friends, I like pork sausages so I am probably an infidel, I don't care but they probably do. Do many people use the word 'sausage', these days? If they don't say 'snagger', can they really be trusted? I think that's a snag, or the plural snags, snagger must be a sand groper term, I like the word sausage, it sounds so much more sophisticated, pork sausages with bbq sauce and a jug of beer with no Muslims within sight ahhh happy days. I'm just going by the PMs that Booby sent me. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snagger

Was Bobby referring to sustainability issues or to a sausage in that instance, as are the two definitions in the Urban dictionary you referred to, now look on google, I cant see snaggers, maybe you are referring to sangers, another Aussie colloquial.

This show will just be your standard sbs snow job.

Mistress Nicole wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 7:22pm:

This show will just be your standard sbs snow job.

Gweg and Karmel are getting a room that night to watch it together.

SBS editorial staff have fed some guy this line for the preview: "The individual defines the religion, the religion does not define the individual." or words to that effect. That claim is written purely for Australian consumption, by SBS. It has nothing to do with any form of Mohamed's religion.

This is one of the worst cases of Western media trying to whitewash the atrocities committed by Muzlims in the name of Allah. SBS is riddled with cowards, who will say anything in the hope they will be spared.

Brian Ross wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 3:06pm:

Reality of what Muslims believe versus the unreality of what Yadda believes they believe.

#1, If what moslems [tell us, that they] believe, is divorced from the very real strictures of faith, which ISLAM places upon every moslem,
then we may conclude that moslems are,
1/ misrepresenting their own faith, and,
2/ misrepresenting what ISLAM teaches moslems, regarding their faith.

#2, Moslems are notoriously deceitful and unreliable people.  [i.e. we should not be surprised, when moslems tell us, those things which moslems believe that we want to hear.]



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Ali Kadri - Islamic Council of Queensland vice-president,
features in The Mosque Next Door on SBS.




Quote:

"There's no underlying religious text or reasons why [moslems] go out and kill people......"

- Ali Kadri
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https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-islam/3259588/


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Q.
Who are you going to believe ?      What Ali Kadri tells you ?


OR WHAT ALLAH AND ISLAM DEMANDS, of those who are the followers of ISLAM.....


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29


"Fighting [against disbelievers] is prescribed for you, and [if] ye dislike it.....Allah knoweth, and ye know not."
Koran 2.216


"O ye who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are near to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allah is with those who keep their duty (unto Him)."
Koran 9.123


"Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:...."
Koran 9.111



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WHAT MOHAMMED SAID.....

ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."




.




Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE "...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems." "....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God." "...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God." "...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM." "...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does." "...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]" "...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4



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ARGUMENT;
There is an identifiable group of people, who do, facilitate, enable, encourage and commit acts of terror,
as an endorsed cultural modality.

They are called moslems.

They are the followers, of ISLAM.



WAKE UP PEOPLE !

I think this could backfire spectacularly.

It should be aired in Pakistan, for its accurate interpretation of the Koran.

issuevoter wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 7:15am:

It should be aired in Pakistan, for its accurate interpretation of the Koran.

Lol!!

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 7:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:05pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 7:01pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:45pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? Do many people use the word Infidel these days, can infidels be friends, I like pork sausages so I am probably an infidel, I don't care but they probably do. Do many people use the word 'sausage', these days? If they don't say 'snagger', can they really be trusted? I think that's a snag, or the plural snags, snagger must be a sand groper term, I like the word sausage, it sounds so much more sophisticated, pork sausages with bbq sauce and a jug of beer with no Muslims within sight ahhh happy days. I'm just going by the PMs that Booby sent me. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snagger Was Bobby referring to sustainability issues or to a sausage in that instance, as are the two definitions in the Urban dictionary you referred to, now look on google, I cant see snaggers, maybe you are referring to sangers, another Aussie colloquial.

Your Google must be broken.

'snaggers' comes up for me.

http://www.slang-dictionary.org/australian-slang/Snagger

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2010/04/21/2878792.htm

Congrats to the Muslim women for not wearing hijabs ~ and also big congrats to their fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, and male cousins for not making an issue of it.

These sort of Muslims WANT to assimilate seamlessly into the Western culture of Australia. Good on them.

I just HOPE that Waleed Aly and his hijabbed wife don't appear on the program at any time at all.

freediver wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 6:51am:

I think this could backfire spectacularly.

;D

Sometimes it's better to Let sleeping dogs lie rather than poke them with a stick to see what they're made of. Prodding Islam to see what it's made of is not advisable if your host society frowns upon a whole raft of cultural attitudes from the Dark Ages.

The backwash from an Australian public that is 49% against any further Muslim immigration will be of tsunamic intensity.

I'm booking my seat and buying my popcorn EARLY for this spectacle that I predict will be a Comedy of (moral, ethical, and factual) Errors.

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 8:47am:

Congrats to the Muslim women for not wearing hijabs ~ and also big congrats to their fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, and male cousins for not making an issue of it. These sort of Muslims WANT to assimilate seamlessly into the Western culture of Australia. Good on them. I just HOPE that Waleed Aly and his hijabbed wife don't appear on the program at any time at all.

Good news, Herb.

I've just contacted a government minister I know and they assure me that the viewing of this TV show is not compulsory.

NOT compulsory.

They've also told me the government will be distributing brochures on how to find the 'off' button on various TV remotes.

Crisis over!


https://northeastohiofamilyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/RemoteOffButton.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 8:59am:

Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 8:47am: Congrats to the Muslim women for not wearing hijabs ~ and also big congrats to their fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, and male cousins for not making an issue of it. These sort of Muslims WANT to assimilate seamlessly into the Western culture of Australia. Good on them. I just HOPE that Waleed Aly and his hijabbed wife don't appear on the program at any time at all. Good news, Herb. I've just contacted a government minister I know and they assure me that the viewing of this TV show is not compulsory. NOT compulsory. They've also told me the government will be distributing brochures on how to find the 'off' button on various TV remotes. Crisis over! https://northeastohiofamilyfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/RemoteOffButton.jpg

Did the Minister say anything about issuing free Smelling Salts to those with arthur-itic fingers who can't dial to a different channel?

Quote:

The individual defines the religion, the religion does not define the individual."

What a sick bunch of cowards, totally unwilling to honestly look at the myriad of verses in the qur'an which motivate islamic atrocities around the globe on a daily basis.

How degenerate are muslims and their apologists who prefer the status quo of unremitting bloodshed, over candidly reviewing these verses which are to blame for the horrific state of islam today 2018?

Oh well a bit longer yet before all the people wake up to the depraved knavery of muslims and their apologists.

Never seen a flanno burqa before. A Muslim bogan??? ;D ;D

Two interesting and contradictory posts by the Pseudo-Herbie!  Tsk, tsk.  Where is the real Herbert?  How much of a ransom are you demanding for his safe return?   I am sure we could crowdfund it!   >:(


Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 8:47am:

Congrats to the Muslim women for not wearing hijabs ~ and also big congrats to their fathers, mothers, brothers, uncles, and male cousins for not making an issue of it. These sort of Muslims WANT to assimilate seamlessly into the Western culture of Australia. Good on them. I just HOPE that Waleed Aly and his hijabbed wife don't appear on the program at any time at all.

And:


Lord Herbert wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 8:56am:

freediver wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 6:51am: I think this could backfire spectacularly. ;D Sometimes it's better to Let sleeping dogs lie rather than poke them with a stick to see what they're made of. Prodding Islam to see what it's made of is not advisable if your host society frowns upon a whole raft of cultural attitudes from the Dark Ages. The backwash from an Australian public that is 49% against any further Muslim immigration will be of tsunamic intensity. I'm booking my seat and buying my popcorn EARLY for this spectacle that I predict will be a Comedy of (moral, ethical, and factual) Errors.

moses wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 11:43am:

Quote: The individual defines the religion, the religion does not define the individual." What a sick bunch of cowards, totally unwilling to honestly look at the myriad of verses in the qur'an which motivate islamic atrocities around the globe on a daily basis. How degenerate are muslims and their apologists who prefer the status quo of unremitting bloodshed, over candidly reviewing these verses which are to blame for the horrific state of islam today 2018? Oh well a bit longer yet before all the people wake up to the depraved knavery of muslims and their apologists.

When Christians, like you, Moses, repudiate and abandon The Old Testament from your Bibles, you can talk.  Until you end your hypocrisy, why don't you crawl away, back under your rock where you live?  Tsk, tsk.    ::) ::) ::)

Yadda wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 10:32pm:

#2, Moslems are notoriously deceitful and unreliable people.  [i.e. we should not be surprised, when moslems tell us, those things which moslems believe that we want to hear.]

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1518921821/0#0

moses wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 11:43am:

Quote: The individual defines the religion, the religion does not define the individual." What a sick bunch of cowards, totally unwilling to honestly look at the myriad of verses in the qur'an which motivate islamic atrocities around the globe on a daily basis. How degenerate are muslims and their apologists who prefer the status quo of unremitting bloodshed, over candidly reviewing these verses which are to blame for the horrific state of islam today 2018? Oh well a bit longer yet before all the people wake up to the depraved knavery of muslims and their apologists.

I will be the first to admit that I don't agree with religion of many of the values, ethics and points that they exemplify. However the first point you make it one that is up to interpretation. Every religion is interpretive and relies upon perspective and knowledge. The issue here is those who wrongfully interpret and use the religion as a medium in which justifies their action.

To your second point you cannot put out a blanket statement such as that. The bloodshed is emitting from a small sect of extremists who have twisted the original doctrine into something evil. These extremists can align with the KKK who have twisted and warped Christian doctrine.

goldkam wrote Reply #33 - Yesterday at 2:17pm


Quote:

I will be the first to admit that I don't agree with religion of many of the values, ethics and points that they exemplify. However the first point you make it one that is up to interpretation. Every religion is interpretive and relies upon perspective and knowledge. The issue here is those who wrongfully interpret and use the religion as a medium in which justifies their action. To your second point you cannot put out a blanket statement such as that. The bloodshed is emitting from a small sect of extremists who have twisted the original doctrine into something evil. These extremists can align with the KKK who have twisted and warped Christian doctrine.

Oh come on for goodness sake, the tired old interpretation excuse is becoming a bit of a bore, even for apologists.

muslims who slaughter and kill the unbelievers or apostate hypocritical muslims in the name of islam are obeying the verses of evil in the qur'an to the very letter.

Conversely

People who commit evil in the name of Christianity are disobeying the Word of Christ.

I stick by my words that anyone who refuses to look at the evil in the qur'an is happy with the bloodshed it causes.

There is only one way to stop islamic atrocities: an honest examination of the depraved versed in the qur'an which cause and  motivate islamic degeneracy.

Why are muslims and their apologists so afraid of this simple exercise?

Because they both know that questioning the qur'an will destroy islam.

Apologists hate Christianity so they slither around desperately trying to condone islamic teachings and the depravity these religious precepts  cause.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 6:14pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit?

I'm a vegetarian, but people still like me.

Why can't I have a friend who's a Muslim?

Moses? FD? Anyone?

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 5:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? I'm a vegetarian, but people still like me. Why can't I have a friend who's a Muslim? Moses? FD? Anyone?

Karnal,

You,        can have a friend who is a moslem.



But a moslem cannot be YOUR friend    K.

Why so ?

Because it is absolutely VERBOTTEN!

Because it is against Allah's law,      for a moslem,      to take any disbeliever as his/her friend.




As per, what Allah has commanded.....


"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51



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There are        'exceptions'       to those strict rules, which have been laid down by Allah......

:P          ;D


Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"





Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine "...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

Yadda wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 5:22pm:

Karnal, You,        can have a friend who is a moslem. But a moslem cannot be YOUR friend    K. Why so ? Because it is absolutely VERBOTTEN! Because it is against Allah's law,      for a moslem,      to take any disbeliever as his/her friend.

Karnal,

ISLAMIC law,         makes it lawful, for a moslem to cut your throat [a 'disbeliever'] !!
....and,         ISLAMIC law makes it lawful,       even for a moslem who is living, here in Australia, to cut your throat [a 'disbeliever'].


But ISLAMIC law,         forbids a moslem from befriending, any person who is a 'disbeliever'.






Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1509883266/40#40

Quote:

ISLAM's foundational religious texts, have plainly been interpreted by moslem scholars to indicate, that those who have embraced ISLAM, have embraced enmity, and hatred, and hostility and warfare and murder, towards those who reject ISLAM. [quote] Here, for example, are two very illuminating passages from the canonical Life of Mohammed by Ibn Ishaq, as translated by A. Guillaume, and a third passage, from the earliest known Muslim historian. Ishaq: 204 - "'Men, do you know what you are pledging yourselves to in swearing allegiance to this man [Muhammad]?' 'Yes. In swearing allegiance to him we are pledging to wage war against all mankind.'" Ishaq:231 - "Muslims are one ummah (community) to the exclusion of all men. Believers are friends of one another to the exclusion of all outsiders." And here is Al-Tabari, a very early Muslim historian, in book 9, chapter or section 69, reporting words that Muslims believe to have been said by Mohammed himself - "Killing infidels is a small matter to us". These texts are not fossils from a distant past. They are not dead letters. They are still 'live' and carry tremendous weight in the imagination and practice of many Muslims around the world. ...DDA

Google



Google;
we are pledging to wage war against all mankind, al-Tabari

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goldkam wrote on Feb 18^th, 2018 at 2:17pm:

moses wrote on Feb 18th, 2018 at 11:43am: Quote: The individual defines the religion, the religion does not define the individual." What a sick bunch of cowards, totally unwilling to honestly look at the myriad of verses in the qur'an which motivate islamic atrocities around the globe on a daily basis. How degenerate are muslims and their apologists who prefer the status quo of unremitting bloodshed, over candidly reviewing these verses which are to blame for the horrific state of islam today 2018? Oh well a bit longer yet before all the people wake up to the depraved knavery of muslims and their apologists. I will be the first to admit that I don't agree with religion of many of the values, ethics and points that they exemplify. However the first point you make it one that is up to interpretation. Every religion is interpretive and relies upon perspective and knowledge. The issue here is those who wrongfully interpret and use the religion as a medium in which justifies their action. To your second point you cannot put out a blanket statement such as that. The bloodshed is emitting from a small sect of extremists who have twisted the original doctrine into something evil. These extremists can align with the KKK who have twisted and warped Christian doctrine.

Would you say that Muhammad did this?

When will we see 'infidels like us' on Mohammedan tv?

NEVER.

Yadda wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 5:22pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 5:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? I'm a vegetarian, but people still like me. Why can't I have a friend who's a Muslim? Moses? FD? Anyone? Karnal, You,        can have a friend who is a moslem. But a moslem cannot be YOUR friend    K. Why so ? Because it is absolutely VERBOTTEN! Because it is against Allah's law,      for a moslem,      to take any disbeliever as his/her friend. As per, what Allah has commanded..... "....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith." Koran 2.98 "....those who reject Allah have no protector." Koran 47.008 v. 8-11 "O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..." Koran 60.1 "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....." Koran 48.29 "Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...." Koran 58.22 "O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers." Koran 9.23 "....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends.... ......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them." Koran 5.51 . There are        'exceptions'       to those strict rules, which have been laid down by Allah...... :P          ;D Google, we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them" Quote: A Study in Muslim Doctrine "...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not." http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine

Good to know, Y. Our prophet Jesus said we should befriend everyone, regardless of whether they welcome us.

Love thy neighbour, no?

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 5:07pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? I'm a vegetarian, but people still like me. Why can't I have a friend who's a Muslim? Moses? FD? Anyone?

Liar!

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BigOl64 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 5:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? I'm a vegetarian, but people still like me. Why can't I have a friend who's a Muslim? Moses? FD? Anyone? Liar!

Open wide, Hole. I've got a thirsty Stier here.

You?

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 9:25pm:

BigOl64 wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 9:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2018 at 5:07pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 6:14pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 17th, 2018 at 5:34pm: Yes. Why can't we have friends who are Moslems? Anyone? It's got something to do with breakfast, so I'm told. If they don't eat bacon at breakfast, we can't be friends. It's a funny old world, innit? I'm a vegetarian, but people still like me. Why can't I have a friend who's a Muslim? Moses? FD? Anyone? Liar! Open wide, Hole. I've got a thirsty Stier here. You?

I also have no respect for vegetarians. But I will on occasion knock up a blokey salad for me and my mates.

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Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 9:01pm:

Our prophet Jesus said we should befriend everyone, regardless of whether they welcome us.

No he didn't.

But this is something which Jesus did say.

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Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.


Karnal,
Q.
What is the    will    of God [Jesus Father in heaven] ?

Can we know it ?



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Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2018 at 9:01pm:

Love thy neighbour, no?

'Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.'


ARGUMENT;

K,

Jesus said that those who readily embrace deceit and lying, are the children of SATAN. [John 8:44]

SATAN, is the enemy of God [YAHWEH].

And therefore the children of SATAN, are the enemies of God.

Q.
Why so ?

Why is SATAN, the enemy of God [YAHWEH] ?

Because SATAN condones and encourages, the breaking of God's laws, in order to get what we want.

SATAN condones and encourages, deceit and lying, and murder, in order to get what we want.

And so does ISLAM.

And so do moslems.

Funny that!

Moslems, THE FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM,        condone and encourage deceit and lying, and murder, in order to get what we want.

K,

I would argue, that the differences between 1/ SATAN's precepts, and 2/ ISLAM's precepts
are essentially imperceptible !

Funny that!




K,

Your argument is, that non-moslems should embrace the children of SATAN [aka 'moslems'], to prove that non-moslems are more virtuous than moslems ?

Your argument is, Jesus wants non-moslems to embrace the children of SATAN [aka 'moslems'], in order to prove that non-moslems are more virtuous than moslems ?


Jesus said; "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."

I say; I can do that.

Matthew 19:16
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


Straight out of God's law, from the Old Testament.

Leviticus 19:18
....thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am the LORD.

So, i would argue,      Jesus was trying to encourage us [mankind] to follow God's laws.



K,

This is also from God's law.

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Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.



K,
QUESTION;
Are persons who lie to us,      are persons who hold a malevolent intent in their hearts towards us,
are they good persons, are they virtuous persons ?

Or did Jesus suggest that such people are merely 1/ the children of SATAN, and 2/ wanna-be murderers ?


John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.




Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/2#2

Quote:

Think about this; If we tolerate evil, and wickedness, in our midst, ...we, ourselves, will become those, who are evil and wicked. Because tolerance of evil, is not 'tolerance'. It is wickedness! And today people just don't get that truth. In fact most people will strenuously deny that logic. No matter how many times we repeat the phrase, "Tolerance is desirable, and good, and peaceable.", ...our tolerance of evil, is not a virtue. Whenever we choose to be tolerant of evil [in our midst], it is certain, as night follows day, that we ourselves, will become evil. n.b. Our 'tolerance' of evil, merely reveals the wickedness which is ALREADY within us! And if you are a person who is "tolerant" of evil behaviour, DON'T KID YOURSELF, ...God hates you.

Yes He did.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 12:10am:

Yes He did.

....encourage us [mankind] to follow God's laws.



Yes, i know he did.



Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.



As per......

Matthew 19:16
And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17  And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18  He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19  Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.


All Torah law....

Thou shalt do no murder,

Thou shalt not commit adultery,

Thou shalt not steal,

Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Honour thy father and thy mother

All of the above were quoted by Jesus, from the book(s) of the law, the Torah ['the laws of Moses'],
Exodus 20:12-16
Deuteronomy 5:16-20

And including,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
From, Leviticus 19:18


Proving conclusively, that Jesus was a Torah observant Jewish man.

Jesus showed his devotion to his fathers will, by being a Torah observant Jewish man.

No, He encouraged us to love all as we love thyselves.

You know that.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 9:06am:

No, He encouraged us to love all as we love thyselves. You know that.

I can do this;

Luke 17:3
Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him.



I am unable to do this;

Luke 6:27
But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28  Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.


That is because i am a very flawed human being.

Lord forgive me, if you will.



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ARGUMENT;

Moslems who are living in Australia, are persons who self-identify, as being FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM.

Those FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM, are persons who,      it can be demonstrated,       time and time again, are and have been deceiving us, and lying to us.

And time and time again, persons who self-identify, as being FOLLOWERS OF ISLAM,
have demonstrated that they hold a deep, and malevolent hatred, for other Australians, who are not moslems.


an example.....
Homegrown Terrorist has been collecting Welfare for over 19 years.            3 min
dead link....            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jd5LnH3vsgg            n.b. current YT links can be removed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3CSC4zTWW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3CSC4zTWW0


n.b.
Within the first 30 secs in the YOUTUBE video,          witness the utter disrespect for our Australian legal process [of 'one law for all'], which is being demonstrated by the followers of ISLAM, living among us, here in Australia....
[in the YOUTUBE video, moslem thugs are seen beating journalists, causing an affray, on the street outside an Australian court].

Why so ?

Because another group, of followers of ISLAM have been condemned and convicted,
and SHAMED by our justice system,
and Australian 'Aussie' moslems do not like the consequences of our fair and open legal process.



FURTHER;

It can be argued by any reasonable person,        that many, many moslems, who are living in Australia today, are seeking a to achieve circumstance where they, the followers of ISLAM, can come to a 'place' in time, where they can 'safely' intimidate and murder us.

And any rational person would conclude that many, many followers of ISLAM, who are living in Australia today,
are persons who hold a malevolent intent in their hearts towards us because we are not moslems.


Just as has been commanded by their god, Allah.....


Many followers of ISLAM, who are living in Australia today,
are plainly demonstrating their close adherence to the real 'religious' precepts, of ISLAM.
.....to hold and express, a deep hatred, of those who are not followers of ISLAM.



"....Lo! Allah is an enemy to those who reject Faith."
Koran 2.98


"....those who reject Allah have no protector."
Koran 47.008
v. 8-11


"O ye who believe! Take not my enemies and yours as friends (or protectors),- offering them (your) love,..."
Koran 60.1


"Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves....."
Koran 48.29


"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in Allah and the Last Day, loving those who resist Allah and His Messenger, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred...."
Koran 58.22


"O ye who believe! Choose not your fathers nor your brethren for friends if they take pleasure in disbelief rather than faith. Whoso of you taketh them for friends, such are wrong-doers."
Koran 9.23


"....take not the Jews and the Christians for your friends....
......he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them."
Koran 5.51




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This LAWLESSNESS and MURDER,
is being promoted by the followers of ISLAM, who are living among us, here in Australia, today


WITNESS, good 'Aussie' moslems,
who are living among us, here in Australia, today,
behind closed doors,
teaching their children how to practice ISLAM.....



Quote:

"You're never too young to be a homicidal maniac for Allah!"

- 'Aussie' moslem child, being taught 'how to practice ISLAM', in Australia.


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Muslims brainwash children in Australia  -------- >   goto 43 sec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krk5piUzp1E




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Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14

Quote:

'Teacher quits after     primary school     students threaten to behead her' QUESTION; Where do moslem children living in Australia get these ideas from ?

WAKE UP PEOPLE !

Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1409991405/8#8

Quote:

Promoting and encouraging violent and unlawful acts is illegal. We live in a country in which the people supposedly respect the rule of law. Without widespread respect for the law of the land, we [our Australian society] would descend into being like Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Libya, Somalia, etc, etc - which is exactly what moslems are trying to achieve. Moslems want to destroy all of the institutions in Australia, which help to maintain a peaceful and functioning society. SUGGESTION; If you live in Australia and you don't like what ISLAM promotes then you should contact your federal parliamentary representative - EXPLAIN TO HIM/HER WHY YOU DO NOT LIKE ISLAM AND MOSLEMS - and encourage your federal parliamentary representative to try to get ISLAM lawfully declared a proscribed [banned] group in Australia. Act within the law. Otherwise we are no better than moslems.

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ISLAM,       and what ISLAM always teaches, to its followers,
about the followers of ISLAM accepting pluralism......

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IMAGE...
http://raymondibrahim.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/129.jpeg

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior January 18, 2012 Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong "...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance. When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/



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Quote:

Live in peace till strong enough to wage jihad, says UK Deoband scholar to Muslims London, Sept.8 [2007] A Deobandi scholar believes Muslims should preach peace till they are strong enough to undertake a jihad, or a holy war. Justice Muhammad Taqi Usmani was quoted by the BBC as saying that Muslims should live peacefully in countries such as Britain, where they have the freedom to practise Islam, only until they gain enough power to engage in battle. A former Sharia judge in Pakistan's Supreme Court, 64-year-old Usmani, is...a regular visitor to Britain. Polite and softly spoken.... He agreed that it was wrong to suggest that the entire non-Muslim world was intent on destroying Islam, but justifies an aggressive military jihad as a means of establishing global Islamic supremacy.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2409833.ece




Google,
we smile to the face "while our hearts curse them"





Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine "...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden, insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."

http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine




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Quote:

July 28, 2006 Islamic Dictionary for Infidels ...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google

Yadda wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 10:11am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2018 at 9:06am: No, He encouraged us to love all as we love thyselves. You know that. I can do this; Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. I am unable to do this; Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28  Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. That is because i am a very flawed human being. Lord forgive me, if you will.

You can do it if you try - that's the message of our prophet.

If you don't believe it, you don't have faith. Forgiveness is the essence of His teachings - love and support for all people, regardless of who they are. Our prophet used the example of the good Samaritan. You may recall the story.

As St Paul said, you may have the faith to move mountains, but if you have not love, you are nothing. This is what followers of our prophet strive for.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 11:55am:

Yadda wrote on Feb 20th, 2018 at 10:11am: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2018 at 9:06am: No, He encouraged us to love all as we love thyselves. You know that. I can do this; Luke 17:3 Take heed to yourselves: If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him. I am unable to do this; Luke 6:27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you, 28  Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you. That is because i am a very flawed human being. Lord forgive me, if you will. You can do it if you try - that's the message of our prophet. If you don't believe it, you don't have faith. Forgiveness is the essence of His teachings - love and support for all people, regardless of who they are. Our prophet used the example of the good Samaritan. You may recall the story. As St Paul said, you may have the faith to move mountains, but if you have not love, you are nothing. This is what followers of our prophet strive for.

Thank you K.



K,

When the woes of this world come a knocking on your door, and those woes assault, and rob, and rape, and murder you and yours,
you can say to those who listen to your tale of woe, that you were always for peace and tolerance.

And that you know, that it is always wrong to attribute wrongdoing to others.



Deuteronomy 25:1
If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked.


Deuteronomy 27:18
Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.


Deuteronomy 27:24
Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.


Deuteronomy 27:25
Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.


Isaiah 5:18
Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope:
19  That say, Let him make speed, and hasten his work, that we may see it: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know it!
20  Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!


Amos 5:14
Seek good, and not evil, that ye may live: and so the LORD, the God of hosts, shall be with you, as ye have spoken.
15  Hate the evil, and love the good, and establish judgment in the gate: it may be that the LORD God of hosts will be gracious unto the remnant of Joseph.

:)

Yadda wrote on Feb 20^th, 2018 at 3:19pm:

Deuteronomy 25:1 If there be a controversy between men, and they come unto judgment, that the judges may judge them; then they shall justify the righteous, and condemn the wicked

Good thing our prophet came along to change all that, no?

Allah Uakbar. Amen.

The true face of ISLAM.

Moslems [in the West], talking to a moslem audience [in the West], about what ISLAM is.



Quote:

"Our dawa should be the dawa that attacks their [kufur] system, and we replace it with ISLAM." "We want the whole of [kufur] society to bow down to Allah." "This is our dawa my dear brothers and sisters." "[do you think that our dawa will change their [kufur] society] Without attacking the law and order ?" "...we need to behead democracy from its roots....take it, kill it, from its roots. That's what we need to do." "We should hate it so much, my dear brothers. That every day, we should attack their [kufur] system." "....We need to attack the law and order." "....We need to turn around, and to attack the [kufur] society."

Islam - Religion of peace (see!!)  6 min
https://youtu.be/i96nYYcEKNw


https://youtu.be/i96nYYcEKNw


n.b.
That is true ISLAM.

And that is the ISLAM, which is being practiced, by many, many moslems.

In places like Pakistan, and Yemen, and Nigeria, and Indonesia, and Belgium, that ISLAM is being preached and practiced openly.

But in nations like Australia, that ISLAM is still being preached [and hidden] behind closed doors.

Q.
Why do you believe that is ???



n.b.
The YT above was recorded 'behind closed doors' in the UK.

But we know that here in Australia too, 'behind closed doors', the very same 'message' of mainstream ISLAM, is being preached among many moslems, all over Australia.
['we know', from the many terror incidents in Australia involving the followers of ISLAM, which have been thwarted, and have 'come to light'.]



QUESTION;
Will the moslem participants in the SBS production, MUSLIMS LIKE US,
be addressing that aspect ?    i.e. The very real hostile malevolence [towards everything which is 'not ISLAM'], which resides within the 'body' of mainstream ISLAM ?



'Dawa' [in the YT] = = the traditional 'invitation' which is preached to the non-moslem, to persuade him to accept and to convert to ISLAM.

n.b.
Traditionally in ISLAM, the 'Dawa' is recognised as the 'prelude', the 'precursor', to engaging in hostilities.
i.e. against those who have rejected a peaceful invitation.

I had a look at just now - confirmed every misgiving I have about Islam and Muslims.  That niqabi in the 60s tablecloth getup? And all the 'not real Islam' yeahbutnobut?

On elsewher on SBS they have 'should i marry my cousin' or some such - and they are STILL looking for evidence for genetic deformities caused by inbreeding.

These guys will never learn.  The niqabis dont work, the many of the kids are retarded, many others are disdainful of Western education and customs, the mutts are spouting yeahbutnobut. Where's  the positive, the benefit?

I watched Episode 1 yest, and Episode 2 tonight.

I hope SBS will provide/post a transcript of Episode 2, on their WWW site somewhere. [if you see a transcript, please post a link in this thread]

There were definitely several statements, in Episode 2, that i could tear to shreds,     'affirmations' made by some of the participants, about ISLAM and about what ISLAM is.
....i.e. statements/positions which are wholly contradicted in the Koran, or in ISLAMIC law.


e.g.
'What ISIS do, is against ISLAM.'   ...was one of the most obvious clangers.

And the big muscle guy, with the tatts on his arm, who came from Iran [his family had to flee Iran!].

He, stated, 'i really love this country, i really love the way Australia is'.
....and then in the next breath,       he, yes, affirms that he loved 'the way Australia is' so much,
that        'i know we can make Australia even better',        by promoting ISLAMIC values more widely, in Australia.
...words to that effect.




OBSERVATION;
Many moslems living in non-moslem jurisdictions, often express their love of the freedom they now have
to practice their religion IN THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO PRACTICE IT,
.....i.e. they 'appreciate' the tolerance [within the non-moslem jurisdiction] towards them practicing 'their' ISLAM,
a tolerance which they did not experience, within the countries they fled from.





Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1427584380/22#22

Quote:

It is a well known fact that moslems are not happy living in moslem majority nations [e.g. like Indonesia], coz moslems set up political regimes which are corrupt, murderous, exploitative,        .....and violently intolerant of those who criticise the ruling political clique [i.e. an oligarchy, a small group of moslems who are often willing to murder, to 'guard' their political power]. So 'other' moslems invariably don't want to live in moslem majority nations,              and suffer being oppressed by fellow moslems [i.e. the ruling political 'elite']. So those moslems suffering oppression, seek to emigrate to the West, where they can be free.     !!!!!        :D But, they want to bring 'their' ISLAM with them, because they view [their] 'pure' ISLAM, as superior and more virtuous. And that is how moslem communities &^%$#@!-up every country where they emigrate to - just so that they, moslems, can find sanctuary from oppression and persecution!!

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The followers of ISLAM,      are not happy!!!

Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1308291945/0#0

Quote:

The followers of ISLAM,      are not happy!!! ·        They are not happy  in Gaza. ·        They are not happy  in the West Bank. ·        They are not happy  in Jerusalem. ·        They are not happy  in Israel. ·        They are not happy  in Egypt. ·        They are not happy  in Libya. ·        They are not happy  in Algeria. ·        They are not happy  in Tunis. ·        They are not happy  in Morocco. ·        They are not happy  in Yemen. ·        They are not happy  in Iraq. ·        They are not happy  in Afghanistan. ·        They are not happy  in Syria. ·        They are not happy  in Lebanon. ·        They are not happy  in Sudan. ·        They are not happy  in Jordan. ·        They are not happy  in Iran. Where are the moslems happy? ·        They are happy to live in England. ·        They are happy to live in France. ·        They are happy to live in Italy. ·        They are happy to live in Germany. ·        They are happy to live in Sweden. ·        They are happy to live in Holland. ·        They are happy to live in Belgium. ·        They are happy to live in Norway. ·        They are happy to live in the U.S.. ·        They are happy to live in Romania. ·        They are happy to live in Hungary. The followers of ISLAM, are happy in any other country in the world, that is not under ISLAMIC rule.

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 10:42pm:

'What ISIS do, is against ISLAM.'   ...was one of the most obvious clangers.

....yes, like, slaughtering disbelievers,       is against ISLAM.

[Such a lying, moslem     bi tch.
And shame upon you, SBS Australia!     For not even challenging such a claim, being made about ISLAM and ISIS. ]




IMAGE.....
http://conceptnewscentral.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/Nice-attack.jpg

FRANCE, Nice-attack - covered bodies still on the street



Translations of the Qur'an, Chapter 8:
AL-ANFAL (SPOILS OF WAR, BOOTY)

"It is not for any prophet to have captives until he hath made slaughter in the land....."
Koran 8.67


"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued. "
Koran 9.29



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Allah's Apostle said,
"I have been made victorious with terror (cast in the hearts of the enemy)...."
hadith/bukhari #004.052.220

".....I have been given superiority......; I have been helped by terror (in the hearts of enemies):....."
hadithsunnah/muslim/ #004.1062




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"ISLAM ES PAZ"


IMAGE.....
http://www.infranken.de/storage/image/5/6/5/3/2673565_cms2image-fixedwidth-900x0_1pCjLB_n1lRiw.jpg

And pigs might fly - in Barcelona.


Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off



.




Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam, because it means submitting your will to God, so you acquire peace through it," he said. "When I'm following its [i.e. ISLAM's] teachings, I know that my own actions are in line     with what my creator wants, and hence I am at peace with myself, [with] my community and the rest of the world."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-01-19/darwins-muslim-community-tackles-discrimination-at-meeting/6025586?section=nt




IMAGE....
http://www.abc.net.au/news/image/5814780-3x2-700x467.jpg


Quote:

"Mr Yunus has been encouraging peaceful community bridging since starting his post as Darwin's Islamic leader in 2014."

- ABC news report - 2015-01-19



QUOTE;
"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."
- Mr Yunus

What a boorish, cloddish, group of people. If a group of any other religion made a show like this, they would be roundly ridiculed, but because they are Muzlims, they are treated as victims. And perhaps they are, but they are victims of their own insular, superstitious fixation on the status as God's chosen people. No wonder they turn to violence.

Yadda wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2018 at 11:54pm:

Yadda wrote on Feb 22nd, 2018 at 10:42pm: 'What ISIS do, is against ISLAM.'   ...was one of the most obvious clangers. ....yes, like, slaughtering disbelievers,       is against ISLAM. [Such a lying, moslem     bi tch. And shame upon you, SBS Australia!     For not even challenging such a claim, being made about ISLAM and ISIS. ]

It is disrespectful for a person to call a woman a    bi tch.

And it is disrespectful for a person to deceive and to lie to other persons, on a serious matter.

In this instance, 'Two wrongs make a right.'              :P




Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL            5 min
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJnW8HRHLLw


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJnW8HRHLLw





ISLAM explained, plain and simple....

Three things you (probably) don't know about islam            9 min                  29 mb
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgsrnmzxEUY

I tuned in for about 5 minutes.

Seemed like it was loaded with cultural muslims, an ugly bi chick and one bag wearer.

Why no male fundamentalists?

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 9:46am:

I tuned in for about 5 minutes. Seemed like it was loaded with cultural muslims, an ugly bi chick and one bag wearer. Why no male fundamentalists?

The 'bag wearer' was somewhat 'unguarded' and insistent in some of her statements, on how the 'pure' followers of ISLAM should practice their faith.

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 9:46am:

I tuned in for about 5 minutes. Why no male fundamentalists?

Gordon,

How would we know, that at least one 'fundamentalist' was not present ?

Perhaps all of the males were merely trying to be more guarded in what they stated, in front of a camera ?     [particularly, i'm thinking of the guy there, who said that he was a teacher at an ISLAMIC school]




".....except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them"

------- >


Quote:

July 28, 2006 Islamic Dictionary for Infidels ...Robert Spencer, ..."Religious deception of unbelievers is indeed taught by the Qur'an itself: "Let not the believers take for friends or helpers unbelievers rather than believers. If any do that, in nothing will there be help from Allah; except by way of precaution, that ye may guard yourselves from them" (Qur'an 3:28). In other words, don't make friends with unbelievers except to "guard yourselves from them": pretend to be their friends so that you can strengthen yourself against them. The distinguished Qur'anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that this verse teaches that if "believers who in some areas or times fear for their safety from the disbelievers," they may "show friendship to the disbelievers outwardly, but never inwardly."

Google

Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small.

I liked the bit where the girl said Muslim girls had been forced to wear the burka and niquab.

8-)

Nuffin to see here luvvies, ignoring inconvenient truths when you have apologism to push and a hard on for Islam to maintain is par for the course.   ;D ;D

Johnnie wrote on Feb 17^th, 2018 at 3:57pm:

Muslims like us! I have always trusted SBS, in fact I trust all the mainstream media, why wouldn't they have our best interests at heart. Open the floodgates even wider, what could go wrong. In SBS we trust. I am sure the following week they will give the other side of the story to be fair and balanced.

Yeeah, r i i i i i i ght ...

Under any other circumstances the woman in the niqab would be rushed to the nearest Psychiatric Hospital for emergency analysis and long-term treatment in a locked ward.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 10:17am:

Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small.

That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs.

issuevoter wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:05am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs.

So like Christians then.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:09am:

issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then.

Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc.

See the difference?

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:24am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference?

No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:25am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists.

True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW.

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:29am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW.

You can just call them fundamentalists.

E.g. Gordeon that guy who shot up the Florida school was he a Muslim?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:31am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists.

So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre.

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:33am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre.

Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:35am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:33am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre. Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone?

When was the last one, 20 years ago?

Islam is the religion to worry about NOW thanks to Saudi Arabia using it's fortunes to spread its cancerous wahhabism.

I promise you, if/when Christians go full retard, I'll be posting about them every day.

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:39am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:35am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:33am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre. Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone? When was the last one, 20 years ago? Islam is the religion to worry about NOW thanks to Saudi Arabia using it's fortunes to spread its cancerous wahhabism. I promise you, if/when Christians go full retard, I'll be posting about them every day.

No


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence


An acutal bombing in 2012, murders in 2015.

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:39am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:35am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:33am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre. Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone? When was the last one, 20 years ago? Islam is the religion to worry about NOW thanks to Saudi Arabia using it's fortunes to spread its cancerous wahhabism. I promise you, if/when Christians go full retard, I'll be posting about them every day.

That's true. Last time some Assyrian Christians went retard, you pretended they were Muselmen.

An easy mistake to make. They're tinted.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:42am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:39am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:35am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:33am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre. Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone? When was the last one, 20 years ago? Islam is the religion to worry about NOW thanks to Saudi Arabia using it's fortunes to spread its cancerous wahhabism. I promise you, if/when Christians go full retard, I'll be posting about them every day. No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence An acutal bombing in 2012, murders in 2015.

Yup, thats crap and everybody denounces that. Fortunately it's rare.

Islam on the other hand continues to lurch towards fundamentalism while western countries are becoming more secular.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism


The November 2015 Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood shooting, in which three were killed and nine injured, was described as "a form of terrorism" by Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper.[143] The gunman, Robert Lewis Dear, was described as a "delusional" man[144] who had written on a cannabis internet forum that "sinners" would "burn in hell" during the end times, and had also written about smoking marijuana and propositioned women for sex.[145][146] He had praised the Army of God, saying that attacks on abortion clinics are "God's work".[147] Dear's ex-wife said he had put glue on a lock of a Planned Parenthood clinic, and in court documents for their divorce she said "He claims to be a Christian and is extremely evangelistic, but does not follow the Bible in his actions. He says that as long as he believes he will be saved, he can do whatever he pleases. He is obsessed with the world coming to an end." Authorities said that he spoke of “no more baby parts” in a rambling interview after his arrest.

In 2016, Curtis Allen, Gavin Wright and Patrick Eugene Stein, 3 Kansas militia men calling themselves ‘Crusaders’ were arrested plotting a bomb attack and a mass shooting targeting an apartment complex home to a mosque and many Muslim immigrants from Somalia.[148] Stein allegedly told the agent the trio would use ammonium nitrate to make the bombs, a method used in 1995 by Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh.[149] Dr. John Birky, who works with the Somali community, told the AP about 300 to 500 Somali refugees resided in the area where the attacks were planned.[150]

Gordon wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:52am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:42am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:39am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:35am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:33am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre. Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone? When was the last one, 20 years ago? Islam is the religion to worry about NOW thanks to Saudi Arabia using it's fortunes to spread its cancerous wahhabism. I promise you, if/when Christians go full retard, I'll be posting about them every day. No https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence An acutal bombing in 2012, murders in 2015. Yup, thats crap and everybody denounces that. Fortunately it's rare. Islam on the other hand continues to lurch towards fundamentalism while western countries are becoming more secular.

But still occurring so a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist is a fundamentalist.


All poo.

Karnal wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2018 at 11:50am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:39am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:35am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:33am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:31am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:29am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:25am: Gordon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:24am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:09am: issuevoter wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 11:05am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 23rd, 2018 at 10:17am: Or that there aren't reds under every bed, and that the actual level of fundamentalism is very small. That's not the point. These people believe they are Gods chosen ones, and that justifies their support of their martyrs. So like Christians then. Yeah, exactly. But Christians at this point of history aren't killing cartoonists, cutting heads off etc. See the difference? No. Fundamentalists are fundamentalists are fundamentalists. True but it's the Islamic fundamentalist who are the ones acting out NOW. You can just call them fundamentalists. So the fundamentalists who are peaceful are just as big a worry to you as the violent ones? That's just bizarre. Well I wouldnt argue that they are peaceful. Abortion clinic bombings anyone? When was the last one, 20 years ago? Islam is the religion to worry about NOW thanks to Saudi Arabia using it's fortunes to spread its cancerous wahhabism. I promise you, if/when Christians go full retard, I'll be posting about them every day. That's true. Last time some Assyrian Christians went retard, you pretended they were Muselmen. An easy mistake to make. They're tinted.

Like the Copt who just had is funeral at a mosque?