For too long, the current government have been treating the Australian voters like mushrooms: keeping them in the dark and feeding them horseshit.

The controversial TPP is a case in point - negotiated in secret, signed on the other side of the world in the dead of night, and we still don't know exactly what's in it because the government is still refusing to tell us. Even the Parliament doesn't know.

Then there are the government's own plans for pensioners. Just what do they have in mind? Are they really planning to take the equity in people's houses in exchange for the pension?

If Turnbull has a vision for Australia's future, he needs to tell us. Now. Just where does he want to take this country? He needs to stop the mushroom treatment, stop dribbling out bits and pieces, and take the Australian people into his confidence.

Bam wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Then there are the government's own plans for pensioners. Just what do they have in mind? Are they really planning to take the equity in people's houses in exchange for the pension?

Link please.

A precious attempt to change the subject away from the current disaster that the CFMEU puppet Bull S. has plunged the union controlled Labor Party into as he single handedly repelled every last grey power voter in Australia with his hidden agenda to steal their money and transfer it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds so the unions can continue to "borrow" money from the SUPER just to stop them from going bankrupt.

With only 10% "membership" the irrelevant corrupt unions DO NOT represent the workers at all and ONLY represent their GREEDY selves.

lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 4:22pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:19pm: Then there are the government's own plans for pensioners. Just what do they have in mind? Are they really planning to take the equity in people's houses in exchange for the pension? Link please.

The Productivity Commission have proposed it. Will the government rule it out? Until they have ruled it out it's a possibility.

Make pensioners rely on home equity - Productivity Commission chief

juliar wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

A precious attempt to change the subject away from the current disaster that the CFMEU puppet Bull S. has plunged the union controlled Labor Party into as he single handedly repelled every last grey power voter in Australia with his hidden agenda to steal their money and transfer it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds so the unions can continue to "borrow" money from the SUPER just to stop them from going bankrupt. With only 10% "membership" the irrelevant corrupt unions DO NOT represent the workers at all and ONLY represent their GREEDY selves.

You do not understand the concept of how new threads work.

Do your knuckles bleed when they drag on the ground? I'm curious.

Bam wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 5:20pm:

lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:22pm: Bam wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:19pm: Then there are the government's own plans for pensioners. Just what do they have in mind? Are they really planning to take the equity in people's houses in exchange for the pension? Link please. The Productivity Commission have proposed it. Will the government rule it out? Until they have ruled it out it's a possibility. Make pensioners rely on home equity - Productivity Commission chief

So it is not a Government plan. Thank you.

WHAT PLAN?

THE AUSTRALIAN GRUBBERNT NEVER PLAN ANYTHING

TGEY SIMPLY LURCH FROM ONE CRISIS TO ANOTHER

ALL THE TIME SINKING THEIR NOSES DEEPER AND DEEPER INTO THE TROUGH

HAVE YOU NOT NOTICED

AUSTRALIAN POLITICIANS ALL HAVE BREATHING HOLES IN THE BACK OF THEIR NECKS

THIS IS SO TGEY NEED NOT COME UP FOR AIR WHILE SUCKING DOWN THE FREE FEED

They will tell you what's planned straight after Rupert tells them what the plan is. This rabble have not got a clue. ;D ;D

What plan ?

Pass some more Labor agenda like SSM and Banking RC  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Labor


Passing policy since 2013 , from opposition  :)

Its time wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

Labor Passing policy since 2013 , from opposition  :)

So the "plan" to enforce people to sell their homes is a Labor initiative? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 5:27pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 5:20pm: lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:22pm: Bam wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:19pm: Then there are the government's own plans for pensioners. Just what do they have in mind? Are they really planning to take the equity in people's houses in exchange for the pension? Link please. The Productivity Commission have proposed it. Will the government rule it out? Until they have ruled it out it's a possibility. Make pensioners rely on home equity - Productivity Commission chief So it is not a Government plan. Thank you.

You don't know that. They haven't ruled it out. Until they do, it's a possibility.

Bam wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 6:49pm:

You don't know that. They haven't ruled it out. Until they do, it's a possibility.

Yeah. When Labor are in Government the Productivity Commission, like the FWC, are good guys. When the Coalition is in Government, they are spineless jellybacks doing the government's bidding. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 6:53pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 6:49pm: You don't know that. They haven't ruled it out. Until they do, it's a possibility. Yeah. When Labor are in Government the Productivity Commission, like the FWC, are good guys. When the Coalition is in Government, they are spineless jellybacks doing the government's bidding. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Can't argue with that , good to see you've had a smack with reality bat

Its time wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Can't argue with that , good to see you've had a smack with reality bat

Too funny. Strikeouts R Us. Welcome to Greggy's team. A genuine follower. ;)

lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 7:22pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:06pm: Can't argue with that , good to see you've had a smack with reality bat Too funny. Strikeouts R Us. Welcome to Greggy's team. A genuine follower. ;)

The winning team.

Quote:

Turnbull must explain his plans for the future

Tax cuts seam to be Turnbull's main policy focus....He must convince the public tax cuts along with slashing spending is the way to return the budget to surplus....Reduce revenue and reduce services....With budget estimate well below projections Mr Morrison will need to find revenue from somewhere???

:-? :-? :-?

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 7:35pm:

lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:22pm: Its time wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:06pm: Can't argue with that , good to see you've had a smack with reality bat Too funny. Strikeouts R Us. Welcome to Greggy's team. A genuine follower. ;) The winning team.

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His plans after election , if he makes it that far , will be enjoying his cayman islands dollars

Its time wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 7:54pm:

His plans after election , if he makes it that far , will be enjoying his cayman islands dollars

Why? What makes them different?

Paw Lefties, faced with the absolute disaster that their CFMEU puppet Bull S. has plunged them into by alienated all the grey power voters, are struggling to make sense of it all.

Obviously Mal is not going to announce details of his excellent growth plans for Australia otherwise Bull S. would immediately copy them.

Now that Batman has clutched at one their very poor alternatives, prepare for a whole new lot of lies from Labor's resident nesting liar bird.

All the garbage that has been coming out of the liar bird has been to try to fool and con the grotesque grizzled Greenies in Batman.

Obviously Bull S. should not have gone to SA because he is bad news wherever he shows up - recall Bennelong.

Now will the imposter Victorian "govt" ban Bull S. from Victoria as the state election approaches ?

How bad can things get for Labor ?  Obviously worse!!!!

Wonder what Mal will get NewsPoll to do this time ?

More wage cuts and more household debt

Household savings 2013 10%
Now 3.1%

LW amazes with nothing.

How much worse can things get for Labor ?   Much worse with their Liability going off the rails on a daily basis.

Mal must be wondering how much longer he can keep the liar bird there by doctoring NewsPoll with nonsense boosts for Bull S.

juliar wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 6:32am:

LW amazes with nothing. How much worse can things get for Labor ?   Much worse with their Liability going off the rails on a daily basis. Mal must be wondering how much longer he can keep the liar bird there by doctoring NewsPoll with nonsense boosts for Bull S.

Offtopic hypocrisy.

lee wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 7:56pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:54pm: His plans after election , if he makes it that far , will be enjoying his cayman islands dollars Why? What makes them different?

They're not sustaining the Australian economy.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 7:43pm:

Quote: Turnbull must explain his plans for the future Tax cuts seam to be Turnbull's main policy focus....He must convince the public tax cuts along with slashing spending is the way to return the budget to surplus....Reduce revenue and reduce services....With budget estimate well below projections Mr Morrison will need to find revenue from somewhere??? :-? :-? :-?

Tax cuts to workers every few years are false, more often than not. Handing back bracket creep isn't actually a tax cut because they are only restoring income tax to what it was a few years previously.

What we really need in this country is the abolition of bracket creep by indexing all tax brackets to inflation.

Accurate copying is required everywhere even in the darkened abandoned world of political correctness.

attempting to deny facts is typical of the Lefties.



Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 7:31am:

juliar wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:32am: LW amazes with nothing. How much worse can things get for Labor ?   Much worse with their Liability going off the rails on a daily basis. Mal must be wondering how much longer he can keep the liar bird there by doctoring NewsPoll with nonsense boosts for Bull S. Offtopic hypocrisy.

To help the deep in denial and shocked Lefties focus just cast the mind back to the utter squalor and destruction of the Australian economy during the six sick years of Labor's Socialist waste and disgrace and shame.

Mal is under NO obligation to disclose his plans to easily win the election at this stage.

If he did then the Labor liar bird would try to copy them amongst his other lies and bulldust.

Mal's strategy is working after Bennelong, Tasmania, and now SA.

Mal has the annoying problem with the ferals in the Senate who don't understand what is going on and just say no to anything they don't understand as their main concern is keeping their taxpayer funded "job" in the Senate.

The Australian economy is responding well to Mal's Trump initiatives with jobs up and exports up.

The law of supply and demand will gradually increase wages as competition for staff increases as business activity increases.

Exports are vital to earn money from outside Australia which is required to pay off Labor's highly irresponsible borrowing and this incoming money increases the wealth of the Australian economy.

Growth in the Australian economy will be the winner that wins the election for the Libs. Not counting any further insanities from Labor's resident nesting liar bird.

Something the delusional Lefties should try to comprehend is that the old Tariff Walls are long gone and now Australian industry competes DIRECTLY with overseas industry who don't have Australia's problem with the hostile highly destructive corrupt Commo anti-Australian unions.

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 7:35am:

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:43pm: Quote: Turnbull must explain his plans for the future Tax cuts seam to be Turnbull's main policy focus....He must convince the public tax cuts along with slashing spending is the way to return the budget to surplus....Reduce revenue and reduce services....With budget estimate well below projections Mr Morrison will need to find revenue from somewhere??? :-? :-? :-? Tax cuts to workers every few years are false, more often than not. Handing back bracket creep isn't actually a tax cut because they are only restoring income tax to what it was a few years previously. What we really need in this country is the abolition of bracket creep by indexing all tax brackets to inflation.

Yes but Turnbull's tax cuts are for multinational's and high income earners....The average Joe blow will get SFA???

:-? :-? :-?

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 7:32am:

lee wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:56pm: Its time wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 7:54pm: His plans after election , if he makes it that far , will be enjoying his cayman islands dollars Why? What makes them different? They're not sustaining the Australian economy.

I will go through this again for you. I know you have difficulty.

The Cayman Islands have a DTA (Double Tax Agreement) with Australia. Any money held and transactions in the Cayman Islands is thus reported to the ATO. Turnbull as a RESIDENT of Australia, is taxed on that money, in Australia. So that money goes into the overall ATO take. From there it goes to General Revenue and is spent along with all the other tax dollars.

I really get tired of repeating this; but some people just don't seem to be able to grasp it.

philperth2010 wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 10:09am:

Yes but Turnbull's tax cuts are for multinational's and high income earners.

Not Australian companies? Are you sure?

juliar wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 8:17am:

Accurate copying is required everywhere even in the darkened abandoned world of political correctness. attempting to deny facts is typical of the Lefties. Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 7:31am: juliar wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:32am: LW amazes with nothing. How much worse can things get for Labor ?   Much worse with their Liability going off the rails on a daily basis. Mal must be wondering how much longer he can keep the liar bird there by doctoring NewsPoll with nonsense boosts for Bull S. Offtopic hypocrisy.

More offtopic hypocrisy.

Learn the difference between fact and opinion before posting again.

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

Learn the difference between fact and opinion before posting again.

Perhaps you should try that yourself. ;)

We still don't know what's in the TPP either. If it's so good for us, why aren't we being told what's in it?

lee wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 11:01am:

Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 10:59am: Learn the difference between fact and opinion before posting again. Perhaps you should try that yourself. ;)

Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true.

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 11:05am:

Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true.

Do it yourself.

Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands.

Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself.

lee wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself.

Predictably, you've resorted to the burden of proof fallacy.

It doesn't work like that. You made the claim. You prove it.

You're obviously trolling. End of discussion.

And of course, nobody can provide a credible reason why we should have the secretive nonsense of the TPP foisted on us. The TPP was concocted by corporations negotiating in secret for ten years over how they can best screw over Australia. We're not even allowed to know who was present at the negotiations.

Lee, you are talking to the deeply indoctrinated who thinks political correctness is a protective cocoon.

Naughty Naughty!!! Correct copying is required even in the darkened forgotten world of political correctness.

The topic is obviously a weak attempt to distract attention away from the utter disaster enveloping the union controlled Labor Party.

Mal has NO obligation whatsoever to reveal his successful plans to the floundering opposition who would simply try to copy them as they have NO policies of any benefit to Australia at all.

Mal's main plan is to keep floundering failing Bull S. there until the election. There now you Lefties know.




Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 10:59am:

juliar wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 8:17am: [s]Accurate copying is required everywhere even in the darkened abandoned world of political correctness. attempting to deny facts is typical of the Lefties. Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 7:31am: juliar wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:32am: [s]LW amazes with nothing. How much worse can things get for Labor ?   Much worse with their Liability going off the rails on a daily basis. Mal must be wondering how much longer he can keep the liar bird there by doctoring NewsPoll with nonsense boosts for Bull S. Offtopic hypocrisy. More offtopic hypocrisy. Learn the difference between fact and opinion before posting again.

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 3:40pm:

And of course, nobody can provide a credible reason why we should have the secretive nonsense of the TPP foisted on us. The TPP was concocted by corporations negotiating in secret for ten years over how they can best screw over Australia. We're not even allowed to know who was present at the negotiations.

The liberals would've been , a chance to grease their palms and line their pockets is an opportunity never missed as a libtard 

lee wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself.

Why the stupid unnecessary abuse?  Pointless and make you look aggressive and stupid.

Aussie wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:

lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:14am: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself. Why the stupid unnecessary abuse?  Pointless and make you look aggressive and stupid.

I think I'll report him for misconduct. Right-wingers LOVE zero tolerance policies.

The whole idea of the TPP is to dramatically increase exports of Australian farm products as Australia has a natural advantage in producing clean safe food.

It was a near miss that clever Mal convinced Trump not to impose tariffs on Australian steel and aluminium.

Just imagine what would have happened if Bull S. was there after he called Trump "Barking MAD!!".

Mal's plan is to restore Australia to a booming export led economy as he repairs the shocking damage done by Labor during their six sick years of Socialist waste and disgrace and shame.

Lefties hang your heads in shame after what Labor did.

lee wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 11:14am:

Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself.

No need for personal abuse.

Anyway, you should find this interesting:

"Cayman Islands has not yet signed any Double Tax Avoidance Treaties."

world.tax

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 3:56pm:

lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:14am: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself. No need for personal abuse. Anyway, you should find this interesting: "Cayman Islands has not yet signed any Double Tax Avoidance Treaties." world.tax

In fairness to lee though it's rare he doesn't make things up

MEA Culpa. Not a DTA but a TIEA.

It is an agreement to exchange tax information. The difference being that a Double Tax Agreement means that proceeds can only be taxed once.The Caymans don't tax corporations.

You want to mull over the minutiae go for it.

Aussie wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 3:45pm:

lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:14am: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself. Why the stupid unnecessary abuse?  Pointless and make you look aggressive and stupid.

Why the stupid unnecessary abuse?  Pointless and make you look aggressive and stupid. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 3:49pm:

Aussie wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 3:45pm: lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:14am: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself. Why the stupid unnecessary abuse?  Pointless and make you look aggressive and stupid. I think I'll report him for misconduct. Right-wingers LOVE zero tolerance policies.

Go for it. ;)

Its time wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 4:14pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 3:56pm: lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:14am: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 11:05am: Prove what you are saying with links please. Show how what you are alleging is true. Do it yourself. Google ATO DTA (or Double Tax Agreement) Cayman Islands. Not only are you a dipstick; you can't even look for yourself. No need for personal abuse. Anyway, you should find this interesting: "Cayman Islands has not yet signed any Double Tax Avoidance Treaties." world.tax In fairness to lee though it's rare he doesn't make things up

So says the leftwhinger who is always making sch!t up. ;D ;D ;D ;D

juliar wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 3:50pm:

The whole idea of the TPP is to dramatically increase exports of Australian farm products as Australia has a natural advantage in producing clean safe food. It was a near miss that clever Mal convinced Trump not to impose tariffs on Australian steel and aluminium. Just imagine what would have happened if Bull S. was there after he called Trump "Barking MAD!!". Mal's plan is to restore Australia to a booming export led economy as he repairs the shocking damage done by Labor during their six sick years of Socialist waste and disgrace and shame. Lefties hang your heads in shame after what Labor did.

Why do you insist on posting scurrilous lies?

You don't know what's in the TPP.

Bam wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 6:00pm:

You don't know what's in the TPP.

I guess that goes for GetUp too. ;)

But then that would be wrong.

The TPP is here

http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tpp/Pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp.aspx

"TPP-11 delivers extra wins for Aussie exporters"

http://trademinister.gov.au/releases/Pages/2018/sc_mr_180309.aspx

Bam wrote on Mar 18^th, 2018 at 5:22pm:

juliar wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:25pm: A precious attempt to change the subject away from the current disaster that the CFMEU puppet Bull S. has plunged the union controlled Labor Party into as he single handedly repelled every last grey power voter in Australia with his hidden agenda to steal their money and transfer it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds so the unions can continue to "borrow" money from the SUPER just to stop them from going bankrupt. With only 10% "membership" the irrelevant corrupt unions DO NOT represent the workers at all and ONLY represent their GREEDY selves. You do not understand the concept of how new threads work. Do your knuckles bleed when they drag on the ground? I'm curious.

No they don't it comes from the callouses built up after decades of dragging.

Quote:

Turnbull must explain his plans for the future

What plans - he has never had any ?

He just follows the master sponsors proclamations to be nasty as possible as often as possible.

Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy.

Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity.

Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman.

If you are going to quote then quote accurately.



Dnarever wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 6:34pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 5:22pm: juliar wrote on Mar 18th, 2018 at 4:25pm: A precious attempt to change the subject away from the current disaster that the CFMEU puppet Bull S. has plunged the union controlled Labor Party into as he single handedly repelled every last grey power voter in Australia with his hidden agenda to steal their money and transfer it to the corrupt unions SUPER funds so the unions can continue to "borrow" money from the SUPER just to stop them from going bankrupt. With only 10% "membership" the irrelevant corrupt unions DO NOT represent the workers at all and ONLY represent their GREEDY selves. You do not understand the concept of how new threads work. Do your knuckles bleed when they drag on the ground? I'm curious. No they don't it comes from the callouses built up after decades of dragging.

juliar wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 8:53am:

Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman.

.4 , that's point 4 of 1 % growth with no GFC  :)

juliar wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 8:53am:

Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman.

It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity.

lee wrote on Mar 19^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:00pm: You don't know what's in the TPP. I guess that goes for GetUp too. ;) But then that would be wrong. The TPP is here http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tpp/Pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp.aspx "TPP-11 delivers extra wins for Aussie exporters" http://trademinister.gov.au/releases/Pages/2018/sc_mr_180309.aspx

Was I directing the post at you? No.

Perhaps "juliar" is one of your sockpuppets?

turnbull is pretty much a false conservative.
he is a counterfeit.
he is a man who has not come to terms with the onerous responsibility of leadership and the need to be strong and masculine.

he catches public transport, supplicates to minority groups and cares very much that he is 'popular'.

the interesting thing is that this is all unneccessary.

a boss can be a prick, he doesnt need to be loved as a nice guy, just a nice man.

plenty of organisations will elect a guy who is a bit of a prick because you need to be a bit of a prick to be a good leader. 

you need to be slightly feared to be massively respected.

i cant for the life of me see why australain liberal leaders just dont get it.

be a prick, be a bit nasty, be a bit sarcastic, stop trying to be a friend to your voters (like some weak parent trying to supplicate to their children). stand up straight.
tell all those fat steves that the era of entitlement is over
tell them to lift a load
tell them to man up and take responsibility for their lives.

the over indulged voters are crying out for a leader who tells them that the path to a meaningful life is for them to shoulder some responsibility and stop worrying about their rights.

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 9:31am:

lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:11pm: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:00pm: You don't know what's in the TPP. I guess that goes for GetUp too. ;) But then that would be wrong. The TPP is here http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tpp/Pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp.aspx "TPP-11 delivers extra wins for Aussie exporters" http://trademinister.gov.au/releases/Pages/2018/sc_mr_180309.aspx Was I directing the post at you? No. Perhaps "juliar" is one of your sockpuppets?

Oh dear.Poor bammy is getting upset that another  person posted a reply on an open thread.  How sad.

Just showing you up for the lack of facts that you so abhor in others. You made an assumption.;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 9:22am:

juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity.

it is good to see you remain a faithful acolyte of greggy. ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 11:11am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 9:22am: juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity. it is good to see you remain a faithful acolyte of greggy. ;D ;D ;D ;D

Dunno why you rtards sook about having your words crossed out , it's all within the rules  :)

Its time wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 11:34am:

lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:11am: Bam wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 9:22am: juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity. it is good to see you remain a faithful acolyte of greggy. ;D ;D ;D ;D Dunno why you rtards sook about having your words crossed out , it's all within the rules  :)

Indeed.

This isn't, though:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1521354815/11#11

greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 11:42am:

Its time wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:34am: lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:11am: Bam wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 9:22am: juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity. it is good to see you remain a faithful acolyte of greggy. ;D ;D ;D ;D Dunno why you rtards sook about having your words crossed out , it's all within the rules  :) Indeed. This isn't, though: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1521354815/11#11

Off to kangaroo court with Codsy , my my isnt sent going to be a busy boy

Its time wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 11:34am:

lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:11am: Bam wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 9:22am: juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity. it is good to see you remain a faithful acolyte of greggy. ;D ;D ;D ;D Dunno why you rtards sook about having your words crossed out , it's all within the rules  :)

Oh dear "Sooking" Is that what it is when I tell people to report me? ;D ;D ;D


Its time wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 11:36am:

Modifying posts is a bannable offence Codsy

Say what? ;)

lee wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 2:53pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:34am: lee wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:11am: Bam wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 9:22am: juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity. it is good to see you remain a faithful acolyte of greggy. ;D ;D ;D ;D Dunno why you rtards sook about having your words crossed out , it's all within the rules  :) Oh dear "Sooking" Is that what it is when I tell people to report me? ;D ;D ;D Its time wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 11:36am: Modifying posts is a bannable offence Codsy Say what? ;)

Cods easy to hook and my day feels more complete when she chucks a hissy and calls me a nazi  :)

Its time wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 3:02pm:

Cods easy to hook and my day feels more complete when she chucks a hissy and calls me a nazi

So you admit to trolling? :o

lee wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 11:08am:

Bam wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 9:31am: lee wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:11pm: Bam wrote on Mar 19th, 2018 at 6:00pm: You don't know what's in the TPP. I guess that goes for GetUp too. ;) But then that would be wrong. The TPP is here http://dfat.gov.au/trade/agreements/tpp/Pages/trans-pacific-partnership-agreement-tpp.aspx "TPP-11 delivers extra wins for Aussie exporters" http://trademinister.gov.au/releases/Pages/2018/sc_mr_180309.aspx Was I directing the post at you? No. Perhaps "juliar" is one of your sockpuppets? Oh dear.Poor bammy is getting upset that another  person posted a reply on an open thread.  How sad. Just showing you up for the lack of facts that you so abhor in others. You made an assumption.;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

So what? With the juliar troll account, it's a safe assumption given the huge number of times it has vomited Liberal party propaganda into the forum and the complete lack of understanding it has demonstrated in the past.

If the account actually knew what it was talking about, why hasn't it responded to refute the claim? Its silence is eloquent.

If you are going to quote then do it accurately.


Bam wrote on Mar 20^th, 2018 at 9:22am:

juliar wrote on Mar 20th, 2018 at 8:53am: Geez them Lefties are fowl on Mal's success with growth in the Australian economy. Gosh, all the sag grapes and sucking lemons from the Lefties who are dismayed after their HERO, Labor's resident liar bird, floored Labor's chances of ever even getting close to winning the election by totally losing all the grey vote in one act of insanity. Now expect lots of new lies and bulldust after Batman. It is good to see that you're giving fair warning of your future mendacity.

Political correct types are so constrained by their self inflicted political correct rigid rules that arguing with one of them is like pushing someone with their hands tied behind their back. Not a fair competition.

That's why tell it like it is Trumpy easily pushed politically correct Hillary Pantsuits over the cliff.

Mal's plans for the future is to keep Labor's resident nesting liar bird there until the election by rigging NewsPoll to keep giving Bull S. unexplained boosts.

Mal's successful plans to restore the shocking damage done to Australia by the Labor imbeciles during their six sick years of Socialist waste and disgrace and shame are working as Mal guides Australia to a booming export led economy with jobs galore and prosperity for all. What an election winner.

Compare this to Bull S.'s "vision" for Australia as a desolate sclerotic Socialist wasteland sinking in a sea of putrid debt.

The REAL ratings are Libs 60  Labor 30  the rest about 10  as wised up Australians abandon the little useless Parties as was seen in Tassie and SA and Bennelong.

Hope the Lefties don't have heart failure.

Cayman Mal Turnbull has NO VISION. His only plan is to abscond from the country living on his Cayman Island money while doing fkkall about tax evasion. Why would he fix tax evasion? A conflict of interest!

He is a weak leader leading the moribund dregs of the Howard government, as lost as a rudderless dinghy in the middle of the Pacific. He never wanted the job. He nearly quit politics in 2010 after Abbott knifed him. The only reason he's still around is the conga line of suckholes in the Liberals are so bereft of leadership that they begged him to stay.

His treason against the Australian people will be punished most severely at the next election.

Turnbull will quit the Liberal leadership after the next election and be out of politics within six months. And that's when the Liberals' troubles will start. They have nobody else who will be leader. The other leadership candidates make Brendan Nelson and Alexander Downer look good.

The way they are going, they will be in Opposition for 4 or 5 terms - the ones that stay out of jail, that is. The National Integrity Commission will have quite a long list of Liberals to investigate.

Strange echos from the darkened crumbling world of political correctness describing the Socialist nightmare sinking in a sea of putrid debt the mongrel coalition of the union controlled Bull S. Labor Party and the vile Greenies would create.

And Mal's plans for a thrilling booming export led Australian economy are glowing brighter after Pauline swings behind the power party who will save Australia from the Bull S. Socialist nightmare.

How could Patriotic Pauline fail to be impressed by Mal's financial brilliance compared to the bulldust from the lying union hillbilly Bull S. ?





Pauline Hanson now has an ‘open mind’ on company tax cuts
Luke Henriques Gomes Canberra correspondent 7:19pm, Mar 20, 2018 Updated: 7:35pm, Mar 20

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Pauline Hanson says she is now open to supporting the tax cuts plan. Photo: AAP

Pauline Hanson appears to be preparing to backflip on the Turnbull government’s company tax cuts, saying she has an “open mind” about the policy she swore only a month ago One Nation would oppose.

As the government seeks to win over the nine crossbench votes it needs to slash the corporate rate from 30% to 25% for all businesses, Senator Hanson on Tuesday signalled she was now open to supporting the legislation.

The support of One Nation senators would give the Coalition seven crossbench votes, edging the government closer than it has ever been to passing its controversial centrepiece economic policy.

With Labor, the Greens and the NXT staunchly opposed, the government would still need to win over an additional two from an undecided group that includes Derryn Hinch and new senators Tim Storer and Steve Martin.

Senator Hanson said on Tuesday she was now seeking meetings with the Business Council of Australia and big businesses to discuss the proposal.

“I’m actually talking to the government about this. I’ve got an open mind,” she told Sky News.

“I’m not going to do anything that would jeopardise investment in the country.”

Senator Hanson said she would be more likely to support the tax cuts if business leaders publicly stated they would increase wages as a result.

But she said she was impressed by the economic effects of President Donald Trump’s decision to reduce corporate taxes in the US.

“A lot of the companies now are starting to employ more people,” she said.

“I’m still not convinced, they still haven’t got me over the line.”

The Trump administration passed legislation in January that reduced the company tax rate from 3% to 21%, though companies that operate in the United States are also required to pay separate state taxes.

The Coalition and business leaders have seized on the US decision to argue Australia must also reduce its corporate rate or risk becoming internationally uncompetitive.

But Labor, unions and other progressive groups such as the Australia Institute think tank argue there is currently no compelling case to cut the local corporate rate.

While some large US-based businesses have increased investment and given staff bonuses since the legislation passed, critics say such a severe reduction in government revenue will significantly increase the country’s budget deficit, leading to potential cuts to public services, as well as further exacerbating economic inequality.

Last month, Senator Hanson wrote an opinion piece for The Australian in which she stated in the first paragraph that One Nation “will not be supporting the passage of the Treasury Laws Amendment (Enterprise Tax Plan No. 2) Bill 2017”.

“My decision not to support the legislation flows from asking what the companies do with the ­additional cash and who will benefit the most,” she wrote.

She accused the government of making the “false claim that company ­income tax rates drive business ­investment”.

“This is ridiculous – all it does is undermine my confidence in the government and its advisers,” she said.

But on Tuesday, Senator Hanson said she had gone to the Pilbara for meetings with Fortescue and Woodside.

“They want to stay here in Australia. They want to invest in Australia and open up more.”

On Monday, Finance Minister Mathias Cormann said the government hoped to have the Senate consider the legislation by the end of the sitting fortnight.

Last year the Senate passed tax cuts for companies with a turnover up to $50 million, at a cost to the budget of $24 billion over 10 years.

The move was supported by the Nick Xenophon Team, but the party’s two South Australian senators have ruled out supported the remaining tax cuts.

https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/03/20/pauline-hanson-company-tax-cuts-position/

its very important we dont overtax our companies.

our companies are the foundation of all that is good, all that is a contribution, all that is progress.

they are the brave strong horses from orwells animal farm that use their muscles for our benefit.

we should be reducing the strain on these noble creatures at every possible turn.

in orwells animal farm, there were lazy pigs (public servants, regulators,) and parasitic rats that ate the grain they did nothing to produce (unionists and fat steve and his welfare buddies).

if we are to help our noble hard working companies, we must be ever vigilant to fumigate for the vermin and to ship as many of the fat pigs off to the slaughterhouse as possible.

God bless our fine corporates and long may you prosper because our prosperity is intimately linked to your prosperity

But aqua the Chinese appear to be paying the unions to force Australian industries to close with their extortion and sabotage so that the work goes to China.

Recall how Mr Has Been was working so closely with the Chinese ? It wasn't just for flied lice.


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My distrust of this man is more than him being a Mr bean look alike, When he is found to be overspending, Mr Bean has such an illicit arrangement with Chinese crooks that he feels it’s okay to simply send them the bill, and the Chinese feel it’s okay to write a cheque to cover amounts including $40,000 of his court costs. Rotten to the core!!!

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...pute-at-event-with-donor-20160831-gr60hv.html

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-in-to-help-sam-dastyari-20150327-1m9be2.html

http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ow_much_have_the_chinese_paid_their_mate_sam/

Labor senator Sam Dastyari was involved in allowing more than $270,000 in union funds to be paid to a former state MP to “bring peace” between the discredited National Union of Workers NSW branch and the ALP, the trade union royal commission was told yesterday.

Former NSW Labor MP Paul Gibson revealed Senator Dastyari’s role while explaining why he had been paid $271,566 by the NUW from 2012 to last year.

Mr Gibson, a long-time friend of the father of former NUW state secretary Derrick Belan, said the NSW ALP and the union had been estranged for 25 years “and my job was to make sure that both union and ALP worked together”.

He said the payments were under a verbal arrangement with Mr Belan that was “probably backed” by Senator Dastyari to “bring together” the parties, and was “very successful”.

“These two parties were at loggerheads,” he said. “There was a lot of problems on the line, but when I say that I think that we achieved what we set out to do: in Sam Dastyari’s maiden speech when he went in the Senate, one of the people he thanked was Derrick Belan and that wouldn’t have happened three or four years prior.”

His comments raise further questions about the misuse of union funds and came after records released by the commission reveal that Mr Belan’s credit card paid for thousands of dollars in spending on dating websites Match.com and Cupid, were used at a tattoo parlour and an indoor skydiving centre, and to pay off a $1000 loan at a pawnbroker over a few months last year.

MORE:Shorten ally ‘too sick’ for inquiry
Mr Belan, who resigned as the union’s NSW state secretary last month, was summonsed from a psychiatric hospital to attend the commission yesterday to face claims that he used union credit cards for personal use.

However, he was excused on medical grounds and ordered to reappear on Tuesday.

Mr Gibson, who was a NSW MP from 1998 to 2011, told the commission he was uniquely placed to take on his peace-broking role.

“I had 100 per cent total confidence in me, through Derrick, through the union, and 100 per cent confidence from the general secretary of the Labor Party through Sam Dastyari, and I don’t think you would find anybody else on this earth that had, was in the same position,’’ he said.

“I agreed to bring peace between the union and … the Labor Party, and I was offered, given the opportunity to do something that would bring these two bodies together, and in the big picture of the labour movement it was terribly important that that happened.

“One of the hardest things was to get the National Union of Workers and through Derrick and Sam Dastyari, the general secretary of the ALP, to start talking to each other. It was a very successful venture.”

Asked by counsel assisting the commission “whose idea was it to enter into this consultancy?”, Mr Gibson replied: “It was probably Derrick’s and I think it was probably backed up by Sam.”

Mr Gibson conceded that he was paid beyond the point when “harmony was reached in my mind”, probably in late 2013.

Senator Dastyari last night told The Australian he had no knowledge of the payments from Mr Belan to Mr Gibson, but confirmed there was a mission to foster peace between the party and the union.

“Paul, as far as I was concerned, was managing the political relationship with the union,” Senator Dastyari said.

Mr Belan’s father Frank was his predecessor as state NSW secretary of the NUW.

The union’s national office expressed anger yesterday at the “distressing” revelations concerning Mr Belan, claiming the Belan family had “betrayed” officials, delegates and members in NSW.

“The national union is angry at allegations of criminal behaviour by some individuals from the Belan family,’’ the union’s national office said.

Union organiser Nick Belan, Derrick’s brother, testified that he never saw his credit card statements and there was no requirement for written authorisation for spending on the cards or to keep records expenses.

His own cards reflected spending of $933 at Ticketmaster and $878 at the Apple Store in Singapore and a $1885 purchase at the Good Guys this year, which he could not recall.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...0/news-story/eae867bd33ce5b3d8b3cb2f8b585cbbc

Turnbull's future is all but over in two newspolls  :)

Silly LW is still rabbiting on about NewsPolls.

Mal just used 30 NewsPolls as a lawyer's trick when he tipped Abbo out.

Why would Mal give a damn about NewsPoll when he tells NewsPoll what to report ?

But it is all too hard for paw old freezing with cold LW down there in the Apple Isle.

Incorrect drooLiar  :D

We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott.

juliar wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 6:48am:

But aqua the Chinese appear to be paying the unions to force Australian industries to close with their extortion and sabotage so that the work goes to China. Recall how Mr Has Been was working so closely with the Chinese ? It wasn't just for flied lice. My distrust of this man is more than him being a Mr bean look alike, When he is found to be overspending, Mr Bean has such an illicit arrangement with Chinese crooks that he feels it’s okay to simply send them the bill, and the Chinese feel it’s okay to write a cheque to cover amounts including $40,000 of his court costs. Rotten to the core!!! http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...pute-at-event-with-donor-20160831-gr60hv.html http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-in-to-help-sam-dastyari-20150327-1m9be2.html http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ow_much_have_the_chinese_paid_their_mate_sam/ Labor senator Sam Dastyari was involved in allowing more than $270,000 in union funds to be paid to a former state MP to “bring peace” between the discredited National Union of Workers NSW branch and the ALP, the trade union royal commission was told yesterday. Former NSW Labor MP Paul Gibson revealed Senator Dastyari’s role while explaining why he had been paid $271,566 by the NUW from 2012 to last year. Mr Gibson, a long-time friend of the father of former NUW state secretary Derrick Belan, said the NSW ALP and the union had been estranged for 25 years “and my job was to make sure that both union and ALP worked together”. He said the payments were under a verbal arrangement with Mr Belan that was “probably backed” by Senator Dastyari to “bring together” the parties, and was “very successful”. “These two parties were at loggerheads,” he said. “There was a lot of problems on the line, but when I say that I think that we achieved what we set out to do: in Sam Dastyari’s maiden speech when he went in the Senate, one of the people he thanked was Derrick Belan and that wouldn’t have happened three or four years prior.” His comments raise further questions about the misuse of union funds and came after records released by the commission reveal that Mr Belan’s credit card paid for thousands of dollars in spending on dating websites Match.com and Cupid, were used at a tattoo parlour and an indoor skydiving centre, and to pay off a $1000 loan at a pawnbroker over a few months last year. MORE:Shorten ally ‘too sick’ for inquiry Mr Belan, who resigned as the union’s NSW state secretary last month, was summonsed from a psychiatric hospital to attend the commission yesterday to face claims that he used union credit cards for personal use. However, he was excused on medical grounds and ordered to reappear on Tuesday. Mr Gibson, who was a NSW MP from 1998 to 2011, told the commission he was uniquely placed to take on his peace-broking role. “I had 100 per cent total confidence in me, through Derrick, through the union, and 100 per cent confidence from the general secretary of the Labor Party through Sam Dastyari, and I don’t think you would find anybody else on this earth that had, was in the same position,’’ he said. “I agreed to bring peace between the union and … the Labor Party, and I was offered, given the opportunity to do something that would bring these two bodies together, and in the big picture of the labour movement it was terribly important that that happened. “One of the hardest things was to get the National Union of Workers and through Derrick and Sam Dastyari, the general secretary of the ALP, to start talking to each other. It was a very successful venture.” Asked by counsel assisting the commission “whose idea was it to enter into this consultancy?”, Mr Gibson replied: “It was probably Derrick’s and I think it was probably backed up by Sam.” Mr Gibson conceded that he was paid beyond the point when “harmony was reached in my mind”, probably in late 2013. Senator Dastyari last night told The Australian he had no knowledge of the payments from Mr Belan to Mr Gibson, but confirmed there was a mission to foster peace between the party and the union. “Paul, as far as I was concerned, was managing the political relationship with the union,” Senator Dastyari said. Mr Belan’s father Frank was his predecessor as state NSW secretary of the NUW. The union’s national office expressed anger yesterday at the “distressing” revelations concerning Mr Belan, claiming the Belan family had “betrayed” officials, delegates and members in NSW. “The national union is angry at allegations of criminal behaviour by some individuals from the Belan family,’’ the union’s national office said. Union organiser Nick Belan, Derrick’s brother, testified that he never saw his credit card statements and there was no requirement for written authorisation for spending on the cards or to keep records expenses. His own cards reflected spending of $933 at Ticketmaster and $878 at the Apple Store in Singapore and a $1885 purchase at the Good Guys this year, which he could not recall. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...0/news-story/eae867bd33ce5b3d8b3cb2f8b585cbbc

Offtopic. The topic of discussion is "Turnbull must explain his plans for the future".

Its time wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 8:55am:

Incorrect drooLiar  :D We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott.

If the people had made up their mind about Tony dumb dumb then you're patronising the good citizens of Australia by not holding yourself to the same standard damp squib , the arrogant political title is impossible title to shake , the damp squib must step down .

Its time wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 7:01am:

Turnbull's future is all but over in two newspolls  :)

leftwhinger believes in forecasting and holding office by poll.

I thought it was elections that were used to elect politicians. ;)

Its time wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 8:55am:

Incorrect drooLiar  :D We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott.

For lee

Its time wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 1:59pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:55am: Incorrect drooLiar  :D We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott. For lee

So you are quoting a politician about polls? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 2:09pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:59pm: Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:55am: Incorrect drooLiar  :D We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott. For lee So you are quoting a politician about polls? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

He set the metric now let's see if he holds himself to the same standard , labor don't really need to do anything , the rwnjs in libtards are going to do the damage for us  :)

Damp squib is going down rtards  :)

Its time wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 2:15pm:

He set the metric now let's see if he holds himself to the same standard , labor don't really need to do anything , the rwnjs in libtards are going to do the damage for us

They are doing exceptionally well at that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Its time wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 2:15pm:

lee wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:09pm: Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:59pm: Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:55am: Incorrect drooLiar  :D We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott. For lee So you are quoting a politician about polls? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D He set the metric now let's see if he holds himself to the same standard , labor don't really need to do anything , the rwnjs in libtards are going to do the damage for us  :)

28 bad Newspolls for the government in a row, most of them 48-52 or worse. 29th Newspoll on 25th-26th March and 30th Newspoll in April.

The people have made up their minds. They want this bad government gone.

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 3:11pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:15pm: He set the metric now let's see if he holds himself to the same standard , labor don't really need to do anything , the rwnjs in libtards are going to do the damage for us They are doing exceptionally well at that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

When Labor's opponents are doing so badly, why interrupt them?

lee wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 3:11pm:

Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:15pm: He set the metric now let's see if he holds himself to the same standard , labor don't really need to do anything , the rwnjs in libtards are going to do the damage for us They are doing exceptionally well at that. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

55 45 and travelling beautifuly

Bam wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 7:32am:

Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:15pm: lee wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 2:09pm: Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 1:59pm: Its time wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 8:55am: Incorrect drooLiar  :D We have lost 30 Newspolls in a row, it is clear that the people have made up their mind about Mr Abbott's leadership," Mr Turnbull said when he set out his reasons for asking the Liberal Party to replace Mr Abbott. For lee So you are quoting a politician about polls? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D He set the metric now let's see if he holds himself to the same standard , labor don't really need to do anything , the rwnjs in libtards are going to do the damage for us  :) 28 bad Newspolls for the government in a row, most of them 48-52 or worse. 29th Newspoll on 25th-26th March and 30th Newspoll in April. The people have made up their minds. They want this bad government gone.

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Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia.


Bam wrote on Mar 21^st, 2018 at 8:57am:

juliar wrote on Mar 21st, 2018 at 6:48am: But aqua the Chinese appear to be paying the unions to force Australian industries to close with their extortion and sabotage so that the work goes to China. Recall how Mr Has Been was working so closely with the Chinese ? It wasn't just for flied lice. My distrust of this man is more than him being a Mr bean look alike, When he is found to be overspending, Mr Bean has such an illicit arrangement with Chinese crooks that he feels it’s okay to simply send them the bill, and the Chinese feel it’s okay to write a cheque to cover amounts including $40,000 of his court costs. Rotten to the core!!! http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...pute-at-event-with-donor-20160831-gr60hv.html http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-in-to-help-sam-dastyari-20150327-1m9be2.html http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...ow_much_have_the_chinese_paid_their_mate_sam/ Labor senator Sam Dastyari was involved in allowing more than $270,000 in union funds to be paid to a former state MP to “bring peace” between the discredited National Union of Workers NSW branch and the ALP, the trade union royal commission was told yesterday. Former NSW Labor MP Paul Gibson revealed Senator Dastyari’s role while explaining why he had been paid $271,566 by the NUW from 2012 to last year. Mr Gibson, a long-time friend of the father of former NUW state secretary Derrick Belan, said the NSW ALP and the union had been estranged for 25 years “and my job was to make sure that both union and ALP worked together”. He said the payments were under a verbal arrangement with Mr Belan that was “probably backed” by Senator Dastyari to “bring together” the parties, and was “very successful”. “These two parties were at loggerheads,” he said. “There was a lot of problems on the line, but when I say that I think that we achieved what we set out to do: in Sam Dastyari’s maiden speech when he went in the Senate, one of the people he thanked was Derrick Belan and that wouldn’t have happened three or four years prior.” His comments raise further questions about the misuse of union funds and came after records released by the commission reveal that Mr Belan’s credit card paid for thousands of dollars in spending on dating websites Match.com and Cupid, were used at a tattoo parlour and an indoor skydiving centre, and to pay off a $1000 loan at a pawnbroker over a few months last year. MORE:Shorten ally ‘too sick’ for inquiry Mr Belan, who resigned as the union’s NSW state secretary last month, was summonsed from a psychiatric hospital to attend the commission yesterday to face claims that he used union credit cards for personal use. However, he was excused on medical grounds and ordered to reappear on Tuesday. Mr Gibson, who was a NSW MP from 1998 to 2011, told the commission he was uniquely placed to take on his peace-broking role. “I had 100 per cent total confidence in me, through Derrick, through the union, and 100 per cent confidence from the general secretary of the Labor Party through Sam Dastyari, and I don’t think you would find anybody else on this earth that had, was in the same position,’’ he said. “I agreed to bring peace between the union and … the Labor Party, and I was offered, given the opportunity to do something that would bring these two bodies together, and in the big picture of the labour movement it was terribly important that that happened. “One of the hardest things was to get the National Union of Workers and through Derrick and Sam Dastyari, the general secretary of the ALP, to start talking to each other. It was a very successful venture.” Asked by counsel assisting the commission “whose idea was it to enter into this consultancy?”, Mr Gibson replied: “It was probably Derrick’s and I think it was probably backed up by Sam.” Mr Gibson conceded that he was paid beyond the point when “harmony was reached in my mind”, probably in late 2013. Senator Dastyari last night told The Australian he had no knowledge of the payments from Mr Belan to Mr Gibson, but confirmed there was a mission to foster peace between the party and the union. “Paul, as far as I was concerned, was managing the political relationship with the union,” Senator Dastyari said. Mr Belan’s father Frank was his predecessor as state NSW secretary of the NUW. The union’s national office expressed anger yesterday at the “distressing” revelations concerning Mr Belan, claiming the Belan family had “betrayed” officials, delegates and members in NSW. “The national union is angry at allegations of criminal behaviour by some individuals from the Belan family,’’ the union’s national office said. Union organiser Nick Belan, Derrick’s brother, testified that he never saw his credit card statements and there was no requirement for written authorisation for spending on the cards or to keep records expenses. His own cards reflected spending of $933 at Ticketmaster and $878 at the Apple Store in Singapore and a $1885 purchase at the Good Guys this year, which he could not recall. http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...0/news-story/eae867bd33ce5b3d8b3cb2f8b585cbbc Offtopic. The topic of discussion is "Turnbull must explain his plans for the future".

juliar wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 2:29pm:

Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia.

Offtopic.

Striking out irrelevant text before posting a response is in accordance with the forum rules.

Will it be 60 40 next newspoll ?

If you are going to quote then quote accurately or not at all. Misquoting is not politically correct at all.


Bam wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 2:29pm: Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia. Offtopic. Striking out irrelevant text before posting a response is in accordance with the forum rules.

Now that Mal hos gotten all but 2 of the dodgy ferals on side the company tax cuts are only a hairsbreadth away.

Only cut 2 more deals with the self serving ferals and it is all over and even more election winning wealth and prosperity is just around the corner.

Now that Labor's resident nesting liar bird has gotten all the grey power offside Labor is looking at the next 20 years in opposition.

Labor is looking just like they were when Gillard was there - will the unions ditch Bull S. like they did back then ?

You gotta hand it to Mal he is the master strategist all right. Even appeared on 2GB again to proudly acclaim his many achievements.

The really brilliant tactics are yet to appear but will as the election approaches.

The slimy GetUp! has lost its touch and has gone soggy.

The exposure of the 20 or so Vic Labor imposters is quite clever.

The disastrous alarming warning to all Australians mess the feminazi sheila made of the press thingy just adds to Labor's woes.

How much badder can things get for Labor ? Much worse!!!

Looking forward to a Labor government with some actual wage growth and an actual 21st century economy

juliar wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 6:59pm:

If you are going to quote then quote accurately or not at all. Misquoting is not politically correct at all. Bam wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:05pm: juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 2:29pm: Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia. Offtopic. Striking out irrelevant text before posting a response is in accordance with the forum rules.

If you have got nothing to add that is relevant to the topic, don't bother posting.

Its time wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 7:29pm:

Looking forward to a Labor government with some actual wage growth and an actual 21st century economy

We will need several terms of Labor government to clean up the massive, massive mess that conservative governments have made of this country in the past 22 years.

Wages growth stagnant.
Insecure work at unacceptably high levels.
Black market labour thriving.
Wage theft rampant.
Over ONE MILLION people working in Australia on foreign work visas while Australians are starved of opportunity.
Electricity prices soaring due to the failed experiment of privatisation.
Health care costs soaring.
Illegal immigrants flooding into the country by plane and then overstaying their visas.
Many, many more problems, too many to list.

Turnbull MUST tell us how his government is going to fix these problems.

Bam wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 7:52pm:

juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:59pm: If you are going to quote then quote accurately or not at all. Misquoting is not politically correct at all. Bam wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:05pm: juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 2:29pm: Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia. Offtopic. Striking out irrelevant text before posting a response is in accordance with the forum rules. If you have got nothing to add that is relevant to the topic, don't bother posting.

Woh Woh Woh , the drooLiar is a subject matter in to the mind of a lunatic , 90% of the time I just ignore it but I occasionally go in for a bit of a giggle

Bam wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 6:05pm:

juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 2:29pm: Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia. Offtopic. Striking out irrelevant text before posting a response is in accordance with the forum rules.

You do understand the difference between "some aspect" ad the entire response?

No. i thought not. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bam wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2018 at 7:52pm:

juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:59pm: If you are going to quote then quote accurately or not at all. Misquoting is not politically correct at all. Bam wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 6:05pm: juliar wrote on Mar 22nd, 2018 at 2:29pm: Quote accurately or NOT AT ALL. Very much relevant to Mal's strategy for Australia. Offtopic. Striking out irrelevant text before posting a response is in accordance with the forum rules. If you have got nothing to add that is relevant to the topic, don't bother posting.

Coming from bammy, truly hilarious.