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Title: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Yadda on Mar 30th, 2018 at 4:18pm I'm a moslem.....Can i come and live in your country ? I'm a moslem. I am a follower of ISLAM. I am [if the truth is told] a follower of a religion which encourages me, to hate, and to seek to enslave or kill those who don't believe as i, and as my brothers believe. Everyone in the country where i live [my homeland] claim to be moslems too, but some of them do not believe exactly as myself, and as my brothers believe. And there is a terrible war going on here!! And we are losing that war!! And those persecutors are trying to exterminate us!! My family and myself are in a terrible situation here. We need somewhere to be safe, we need a place of sanctuary. Can i come and live in your country ? The persons in my group are all peace loving moslems, who we are being persecuted and killed here! So, can we come and live in your country ? . Yadda said.... http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1376230724/29#29 Quote:
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QUOTE; "Peace summarises everything in Islam..." - Mr Yunus . "ISLAM ES PAZ" IMAGE..... ![]() Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace. /sarc off |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by xeej on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:14pm
The floodgates are open, "we don't decide on who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come".
Why the bloody hell not. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:38pm Johnnie wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
I think il Duce' Dutton would disagree with that statement... ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Yadda on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:45pm Johnnie wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
@ Reply #1 We do! ["decide on who comes to this country and the circumstances in which they come"]. FACT We [all adult Australians], elect our LAWMAKERS. And many of our LAWMAKERS want to have a policy of open door immigration, into Australia, circa 2018. Don't they ? WHAT IS THE CAUSE OF THIS CIRCUMSTANCE ? Australia, like almost every other democratic nation, allow 'universal suffrage' in the voting for LAWMAKERS. And in such a circumstance, it is bound to follow, that those who are elected to be our representatives in government, are simply a reflection of the morals and of the character, of those who voted for them. Aren't they ? And most/many Australians today, it would seem, do WANT to have a policy of open door immigration, into Australia, circa 2018. Dictionary; universal suffrage = = the right of all adults to vote in political elections. THE SOLUTION/ REMEDY TO SUCH FOOLISHNESS ? Voting for LAWMAKERS should be a special [earned] privilege. Not a universal right for every citizen [over a particular age]. That is just a personal opinion. I would proffer, that if voting for LAWMAKERS was a special [earned] privilege, many of the challenges and conflicts we see in society today, WOULD NOT EXIST. Because the LAWMAKERS that were elected under such a protocol, wouldn't allow or enact so many laws which would result in so many challenges and conflicts in society, imo. That is just a personal opinion. Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Sprintcyclist on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:50pm
I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country
NO |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by xeej on Mar 30th, 2018 at 6:21pm
They tend to sh!t in their nest wherever they go.
WE DONT WANT THEM HERE. Religious freaks. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by issuevoter on Mar 30th, 2018 at 9:22pm
My country? Why don't you sort out your own country first? You've been there long enough. What went wrong? Wouldn't be an inferior culture or religion by any chance? So now you want to come here and preach the same stuff that didn't work at home?
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Mar 31st, 2018 at 9:03am Brian Ross wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:38pm:
Bwian is demonstrationg once again his utter ignorance of history. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 31st, 2018 at 10:08am Johnnie wrote on Mar 30th, 2018 at 5:14pm:
keep voting for your leaders .. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by xeej on Mar 31st, 2018 at 2:45pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 10:08am:
A fat lot of good that will do! Our leaders are united on this front and fully endorse a culture/religion that oppresses females, example, 5yo old girls unable to leave home for their entire lives unless wrapped in a hijab, our politicians need to have a look around and make a stand. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Mar 31st, 2018 at 3:41pm Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 9:03am:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, why don't you provide a quote (with a link of course) to where il Duce' said that the "floodgates are open..."? Unable to? Unwilling to? How un-bloody-surprising, Hammer/Soren, hey? ::) Run back under your bridge... ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Mar 31st, 2018 at 4:01pm Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 3:41pm:
That's enough lying and BS, Bwian. Your idiotic formulation of 'Duce Dutton' demontrates just what an ignorant mong you are. You would make an excellent Green senator. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Mar 31st, 2018 at 5:18pm Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 4:01pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Hammer/Soren. Tsk, tsk, appears that il Duce' has a fan. I do not doubt that you will join him during his "March on Canberra"? ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Mar 31st, 2018 at 5:32pm
It takes the rarest of distortig, ignorant idiots like you or a McKim to say that an Australiam MP is like an early 20th century European fascist. It takes dogged, determined stupidity and hyperbolic vanity to say such a thing but we have you to perform for us, like a demented, no-nothing flea.
If we had fascists in power their political opponents would be in jail or dead, not sitting across from them in parliament , you sad sack. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Mar 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 5:32pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Hammer/Soren. Tsk, tsk, il Duce' will be so glad of your support. Do you have your wardrobe all picked out for The March? I hear that black is the new "in" colour for Fascists like you. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Mar 31st, 2018 at 6:22pm Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Identifying your complete and dogged ignorance of recent history is now support for Dutton?? Bwian, you are out of your depth, you have switched to catatonic in your responses. Off the meds. Long rest, eat well, don't talk to strangers, switch off devices. Go to Syria. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Karnal on Mar 31st, 2018 at 8:39pm
I am a Moslem. Excuse me, Frank, can you come and live in my country?
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Mar 31st, 2018 at 9:38pm Frank wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 6:22pm:
So, then, no evidence about il Duce' ever having suggested that Australia's borders are "open", then, Soren/Hammer? Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk. ::) Quote:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. I do hope you know how to do the goose-step, Hammer/Soren? Afterall, you'll be expected to perform it before il Duce' when he takes the salute from yourself and your compatriots after you've marched on Canberra. We wouldn't want you being drummed out of the Blackshirts, now would we? ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Setanta on Mar 31st, 2018 at 11:20pm Brian Ross wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 5:56pm:
Hmm, yes black and fascists... Perhaps you didn't think that one through. Tut Tut. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by issuevoter on Apr 1st, 2018 at 7:42am Setanta wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Wouldn't be the first time. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 1st, 2018 at 2:22pm Setanta wrote on Mar 31st, 2018 at 11:20pm:
Mmm, perhaps you're right. Poor, poor, Soren/Hammer, to be identified in the same colour as Muslims. Tsk, tsk. I apologise, Hammer/Soren. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 2:14pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 1st, 2018 at 2:22pm:
;D ;D :D :D If Dutton was a fascists his political opponents like mckinn and enemies like you would be in jail or dead, not spouting loose stool nonsense as you do. You know nothing, understand nothing, learn nothing. You are completely demolished, Bwian, your bwain has finally turned into loose , runny stool (back, Karnal, back!!). |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:18pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 2:14pm:
[Ad huminem insults ignored] If il Duce was a true facist perhaps. However, he is yet to topple Prime Minister Trumble. I expect to see much worse if/when he does, Soren/Hammer. Much worse and you'll be standing in front of him doing your stiff armed salute quite happily, won't you? Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:31pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:18pm:
I'd never salute Turdball. He's a white ant like you lefties. You want a mixed Australia bordering on anarchy because you believe in the melting pot. He want a mixed Australia to feed his mates businesses with cheap labour. You have the same motive. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:37pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:31pm:
Do I, Hammer/Soren? As I have never revealed my "motives", I suspect you're talking from your hatred of anybody who stands up for the rights of all individuals - including migrant Australians. Rights that all people have and share. You just seek to persecute people 'cause your a Xenophobic Racist. Right? ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:41pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:37pm:
The whole spine to my arguments has always been an understanding of how f arked up humans are. Now if you believe it's smart to mix Australia up with loads of incompatible citizens you really need a lobotomy. It has never worked and never will. Wake up. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:32pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 3:41pm:
Appears to be working OK at the moment, downunder, Soren/Hammer. Multiculturalism is supported overwhelmingly by the majority of Australians, white or otherwise. How do you know if a person is "incompatible" before they migrate and live here for an extended period? Or is it merely the colour of their skin? The shape of their eyes? The thickness of their lips? Their choice in whom they decide to love? Their religious beliefs? Their culture? Well? What is it? I'd suggest that you are "incompatible" because of your willingness to attack migrants and Indigenous Australians, often for nonsensical reasons. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:38pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
It's their culture and values and resistance assimilation. It's about what is in their heads and harts that makes them incompatible. No society has ever survived without a lasting, significant bond of minds and hearts. No society has ever survived a mix of people pulling in all different directions. Multiculturalism is fragmentation for no good reason. Buy a cookbook if you want ethnic food. There is no other contribution multiculturalism has made, migrants who have made other contributions have assimilated. Funjy costumes and funny food is not sufficient justification for societal transformation. Western civilisation is open to everyone. Tribal, kinship cultures aren't. Multiculturalism hasnt worked in India, South Africa, Burma, the US, any of the African countries, not among Aborigines or even PNG. It is not working in France, Germany or anywhere in Europe. It's bursting at the seams here with the introduction of Africans, Muslim Arabs and Indians, Chinese. What do the chinese and niqabi arabs share? What brings them together? Nothing. The Italians, Greeks Europeans of earlier migration fitted in and are culturally similar. The recent migration fro culturally incompatible countries has brought only ghettos and fragmentation and seething victimhood mentality. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:47pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:38pm:
OK, now you're suggesting that Western Civilisation relies on "tribal" and "kinship", Hammer/Soren? Really? So, how does that work? What tribal or kinship structure exists in the USA? In Canada? In the UK? France? Germany? Denmark? Sweden? Norway? Italy? Spain? Portugal? Australia? New Zealand? South America? South Africa? Seems to be quite a varied lot of people from all different places around the world. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:32pm:
I've got one answer to that. Serbia and their troubles. Case closed. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 5:00pm
Western civilusation is open to everyone who wants to assimilate into it and enjoy its liberationg gifts from suffocating tribal cultures.
But it will be destroyed by barbarians who oppose it and despise it and do not want to assimilate into it. We see it happening before our eyes, here, in Europe and north America . |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 6:17pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 5:00pm:
Who said that you're the only one who can determine what "Western Civilisation" can be, Hammer/Soren? Other citizens also get a vote. What happens if their votes outnumber your vote? You going to put your fingers in your ears and shout, "I can't hear you! I can't hear you!" ? ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 6:19pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 4:54pm:
Serbia created it's own troubles, Soren/Hammer. No one else contributed to their making, no matter what the Serbs might like to claim. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 6:46pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 6:17pm:
Well, tell us then, what IS Western civilisation. What makes Australia, NZ and all the other Western countries in Europe and North America different to any number of third world countries in Asia, Africa, Latin America? Are there any non-white Western countries? No. Are the any non-white rich countries taking in millions of third worlders? No. Why not? |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 7:34pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 6:46pm:
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[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Western_civilization]Source[/url] Today, Japan, a "non-White" nation is considered a member of Western culture, Hammer/Soren. As is South America and Central America, North America and South Africa, Australia and New Zealand. All of them have significant contributions from Indigenous cultures as well. Western culture is best identified by it's ability to absorb and assimilate new ideas and beliefs from other cultures. You appear to believe it is set in concrete, in aspic, Hammer/Soren for some unfathomable reason. Today "Western culture" has significant contributions from Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Animist cultures integrated into it's central core. It is a true Multiculture. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:26pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 7:34pm:
Name some. I cannot think of any. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:27pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 7:34pm:
No wonder we regard you as an idiot, Bwian. Japan is a developed country. It is not Western. It's the land of the frikken Rising Sun - aka THE East. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:11pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:26pm:
Without Muslim contributions, science, art and medicine would not have had their renaissance, Hammer/Soren. Tsk, tsk, don't you know anything about the history of the culture you claim to represent? Without the Muslim contributions from the East and Spain, Western society would still think it was perfectly OK that the sun revolved around the Earth. Without Muslim contributions, we would have seen medicine still kill people. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:12pm Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:27pm:
And yet it is still considered a "Western country", Hammer/Soren. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Grendel on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 12:51am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 6:17pm:
You're an idiot bwian, thanks for proving it once again... what makes you think your opinions are worth more than others? Mostly you are just a progressive twat. :D :D :D ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by xeej on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 11:14am Frank wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 9:26pm:
It seems that question requires some research. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 6:09pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 2nd, 2018 at 10:12pm:
Only by eye-rolling know-nothing idiots like you, Bwian. Who the hell considers Japan a Western country? |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:39pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Move along folks, move along. Nothing of interest to see here except Hammer/Soren trying to use ad huminem argument rather than facts to back his opinion. Tsk, tsk, such a WAFTM. He really does seem to enjoy torturing all those electrons, doesn't he? ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm Frank wrote on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 6:09pm:
"The term "Western world" is sometimes interchangeably used with the term First World or developed countries, stressing the difference between First World and the Third World or developing countries. "This usage occurs despite the fact that many countries that may be culturally "Western" are developing countries - in fact, a significant percentage of the Americas are developing countries. "It is also used despite many developed countries or regions not being Western (e.g., Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Hong Kong, Macao, Qatar, Israel), and therefore left out when "Western world" is used to denote developed countries." |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 4th, 2018 at 9:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 3rd, 2018 at 7:43pm:
Thank you, bastard/idiot son of Bwian - idiot/bastard brother of Bwian - idiot Bwian. Whatever you are, Turd. As your quote - despite your stupid intentions - reinforces my point: the term Western world is used despite many developed countries or regions NOT BEING WESTERN. So it is idiots like you who label non-western countries Western because you are too stupid, too lazy, too far gone to be helped. And you will carry on because that is your function in life - to remind us that we could be as horribly stupid as you are if we didn't take care, even if your nose is rubbed into your foul stupidity time and again. . |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 4th, 2018 at 9:40pm Hammer/Soren, caught out yet again. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, poor, poor, Hammer/Soren. Run along back to your little kiddies' playground. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 4th, 2018 at 11:00pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 9:40pm:
Bwian, caught out yet again. Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Tsk, tsk, poor, poor, Bwian. Run along back to your little kiddies' playground. ::) ::)[/quote] |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by aquascoot on Apr 5th, 2018 at 6:47am
the main problem for islam is that it hasnt properly seperated church and state.
where are there any well functioning islamic democracies. i suppose Turkey might be the best, but it is pretty shakey. coups and radicals taking over TV stations is a tad dysfunctional. and it appears malaysia is entirely corrupt and you will not advance thru the government as a non muslim. and now indonesia is tearing apart the beauty parlours run by transgender people who are then being brutally flogged by police if they dont start talking with a deep masculine voice. this is truly not good. in dubai (which i admire), you can be locked up for criticising the state on social media. the export of saudi wahabism thanks to petro dollars its odd that the left cant see this. its a blindspot for sure. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 5th, 2018 at 8:52am
They see enough to blame the US every time a Muslim blows up innocent people.
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 5th, 2018 at 2:37pm Frank wrote on Apr 4th, 2018 at 11:00pm:
[/quote] Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Hammer/Soren. No prizes for second here. No prizes for being a copycat either. Time to go back to your little kiddie's playground. Tsk, tsk. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Setanta on Apr 5th, 2018 at 10:44pm
Japan is a western country by it's culture and work ethic and politics. Japanese still holds onto their original culture and interweaves it with western culture. They fit in when they come here because of this, they are very much like us but still have their cultural differences. My DiL does not feel out of place in Australia, she's about as different as any Greek, Italian or other wog but although there are cultural differences/idiosyncrasies, they are as western as any "westerner" in their outlook.
I blame two nuclear weapons and the American occupation. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by issuevoter on Apr 6th, 2018 at 6:38am Setanta wrote on Apr 5th, 2018 at 10:44pm:
Japan was Westernising before WW2. Tokyo was thought of as modern compared any other city. Industry was styled after Britain and the US, and urban populations were starting to wear Western clothing styles. American music was popular until it was suppressed during the War. The problem was that the war lords took control, and like the German military class of WW1 they wanted to strut around like peacocks and show how tough they were. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:18am
Japan had an elected house of representatives from the 1800s. Similar to the British model.
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 6th, 2018 at 6:41pm freediver wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 7:18am:
1889 to be exact. It is based on the German Reichstag and the Westminster systems combined. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 15th, 2018 at 1:29pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 6th, 2018 at 6:41pm:
A really important point, Bwian. It shows how well you can use Google and wikipedia, skills that will come handy when you are asked questions you pretend you dont know the answer to. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 15th, 2018 at 1:39pm Frank wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 1:29pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Tsk, tsk, worried that I might know more than you? I really don't know why you bother, I really don't. You contribute nothing, you answer nothing, you're just full of hate and spittle, piss and wind. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by .JaSin. on Apr 15th, 2018 at 1:47pm
There is a Moslem JaSin for Africa
A Jewish JaSin for Asia A Christian JaSin for Europe but nah, we don't want ya. Australia already has a JaSin. ;) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Karnal on Apr 16th, 2018 at 3:54pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 15th, 2018 at 1:39pm:
Yes, but the old boy came here on a plane. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2018 at 7:45pm
Arab or Hispanic, legal or illegal, in North America or in Europe, the last 45 years have marked the emergence of a new kind of immigrant. He isn’t new to history, but he’s quite unlike the customary refugee, exile, asylum-seeker, settler or pioneer.
The new immigrant demands an unearned share of the security and wealth of the developed countries. The new immigrant is an invader. The invader-immigrant appears in times of fundamental population shifts, the great migrations of history. Such migrations occur from time to time. They did, for instance, between the 3rd and the 5th centuries. Just as the invader-migrants of other historic periods could be of any tribe — Hun, Gepid, Lombard, Avar, to name a few — the invader-migrants of our times may be Asian, Levantine or Caucasian. They may be Muslim, Sihk, Christian or anything else. Invasion as a concept isn’t race- or religion-specific, though it’s usually tied to specific groups and cultures at specific points in time. With more Syrians en route, Sweden struggles to maintain identity as country where refugees are welcome Whatever their background, the new kind of immigrant doesn’t simply compete with the host population for economic opportunity and space (which can be shared) but for identity, which cannot. Immigrants can and do create jobs, but can’t create identities for the host population, only compete for the existing identity of a nation. This makes certain “small” matters, often dismissed as merely symbolic — permitting turbans on construction sites, say, or ceremonial daggers in schools — actually more important than ostensibly hard-nosed economic issues. A flag — a piece of fabric on a stick — is just a symbol, but a demonstration in America conducted under an American flag is materially different from one conducted under the flag of Mexico. The first is a country trying to share a problem; the second, a problem trying to share a country. In 1989, 12,000 East German refugees managed to get into Hungary as “tourists,” through what was then communist Czechoslovakia. The reform-communist government of Hungary, after some hesitation, allowed them to escape to what was then West Germany. It was a fine gesture. Still, as I wrote at the time, while 12,000 East Germans could escape to the West, the whole of East Germany couldn’t transfer to West Germany. It simply couldn’t be done. Emigration is never a solution. A few thousand or maybe even a few million Muslim refugees can be accommodated in Europe, Canada or in the United States. But ultimately, the whole of the Middle East cannot come to the West. It doesn’t matter whether refugees are “political,” “economic” or a mixture of both. It doesn’t matter whether they’re fleeing communism, theocracy or poverty. It doesn’t matter whether they’re escaping Marxist dictators, tin-pot generals, ayatollahs or ISIL. It’s not a question of selfishness or racism. It’s just a physical impossibility The whole of the miserable, mismanaged, tyrannized and overpopulated world cannot transfer to a handful of civilized and prosperous countries in Western Europe or North America. It’s not a question of selfishness or racism. It’s just a physical impossibility. Accepting refugees for humanitarian reasons is a Band-Aid solution — it’s fine, just as Band-Aids are fine. But only a charlatan would offer a Band-Aid as a substitute for open-heart surgery. http://nationalpost.com/opinion/george-jonas-our-band-aid-solution-to-the-refugee-crisis |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2018 at 9:49pm
Thanks for that, old boy. One can hardly compare your commies with the tinted races.
Chalk and cheese, innit. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 17th, 2018 at 10:40pm Karnal wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 9:49pm:
Thank you for remaining out of your mind, Paki. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Karnal on Apr 17th, 2018 at 11:19pm Frank wrote on Apr 17th, 2018 at 10:40pm:
Thanks again, dear boy. Anyone for cheese? |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 19th, 2018 at 2:22pm Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. You Racism and Islamophobia are on display again. You know, if the West (collectively) didn't keep interfering in Muslim countries, none of these problems would have occurred. There would be no refugees. no al Q'aeda, no IS, no Asylum Seekers. Looks to me like you lot made your own bed. Time you laid in it, I think. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 19th, 2018 at 7:51pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 2:22pm:
You stupid old bvgger. Don't think, Bwian, it would kill you. The sunni-shia civil war is the West's fault? The Pakis on boats to Australia are the West's fault? The Burmase shafting the Bangladeshis ii the West's fault? The Africans being completely unable to self-govern themselves peacefully is the West's fault? (Colonialism ended before the civilising project was completed). Somalia, Yemen, Syria - the West kept OUT of Syria as long as possible and see what happened to the place. You are out of your mind, going always for the easy and lazy and the stupid angle. Muslims are monstrous to each other and to non-Muslims, whether you interfere or not. The Yaziris interfered with nothing and see what the Muslim did to them. The Copts and Christians everywhere in the Muslim world are the most persecuted and terrorised demographic on the planet - but we should just let Muslims get on with their ethinic and religious cleansing, according to pricks like you, Bwian. Tell me, what was the justification for 9/11, 7/7, the trucks driven into crowds in Marseilles, Berlin, concerts shot up and bombed in Paris and London, etc, etc, etc? Do you accept the Muslim narrative for global jihad? All because the Americans don't appreciate planes being flown into their skyscrapers, the meddling brutes?? Why do we allow Muslims to enter our countries when they pay us back with murder and mayhem in thee name of Islamic jihad against us. You are implying that we should seal off the Muslim world from the rest of the globe because they are not good at playing nicely and get really mad if we don't submit to them. Good idea. Let us bar Muslims entering any non-Muslim country. That way we are not impacted by them and we can let them work it out among themselves. But if you want to let them into Western countries, you want to trade with them, you want to have communication with them then Western countries have an interest in what is happening in Muslim countries. It is a TWO WAY thing, Bwian. You bloody xxxxxx.i |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 19th, 2018 at 8:17pm
It's America's fault Muhammad started slaughtering Jews. So everything else the Muslims have done since is also America's fault.
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Frank on Apr 19th, 2018 at 9:51pm freediver wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 8:17pm:
Just as the Germans will never forgive the Jews for the holocaust, the Muslims will never forgive the Jews for Mohammed's massacring them. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 19th, 2018 at 10:04pm
They're also a bit pissed off about the west ending slavery in Muslim lands before they got around to it. Perhaps Aussie can tell us how arrogant that was.
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:09pm Frank wrote on Apr 19th, 2018 at 7:51pm:
Oh, dearie, dearie, me. Poor, poor, Soren. Your Racism and Islamophobia are on display again. You know, if the West (collectively) didn't keep interfering in Muslim countries, none of these problems would have occurred. There would be no refugees. no al Q'aeda, no IS, no Asylum Seekers. Looks to me like you lot made your own bed. Time you laid in it, I think. ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:20pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:09pm:
Why do you always post that Brian. Many Muslim conflicts have nothing to do with the west at all. You know that. Burma, Kosovo, Bosnia, Iran, Pakistan, Somalia, Mali, Sudan Bangladesh etc etc etc. And Afghanistan , Iraq, Syria have been basket cases long before western involvement. The big issue in the Muslim world is sectarianism , tribalism and land. I grant you that the west made it worse with their stupid involvements though. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:24pm
Brian is afraid that if he makes any specific criticism of Islam or Muslims, people will accuse him of bigotry (unless he carefully couches it with criticism of Christianity).
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:30pm freediver wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
I question people who can't be critical of all religions , ethnicities etc. It's a form of bigotry that Brian hasn't realised yet. Being selectively critical looks like favouritism to me. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm
Brian and Gandalf once tried to convince everyone that there was an appropriate relative amount of criticism of each respective religion, and if we strayed from that it was bigoted.
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:39pm freediver wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
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Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Yadda on Apr 20th, 2018 at 11:30pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Hammer, You claim that ISLAM is a 'problem'. But the followers of ISLAM are convinced that ISLAM is the answer [...for us all]. IMAGE.... |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Karnal on Apr 20th, 2018 at 11:54pm Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
How does Islam present you with a problem, Homo? I'm curious. |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:13am Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:20pm:
Why? Because it is true, Hammer. I didn't claim that the West was solely responsible but it has been responsible for the two major causes of refugees - Afghanistan and Iraq. It has been responsible, as a consequence for the creation of al Q'aeda and IS. If the West had not decided to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, we never would have seen as many Asylum Seekers and Refugees fleeing those two major wars. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:15am freediver wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:36pm:
Did I? Really? Care to quote back where I claimed that, FD? Or are we just reading your usual bullshit? Mmmm? ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:16am Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 20th, 2018 at 8:39pm:
Oh, dear, really? And there I thought you talked about it because you suffered from Islamophobia, Hammer. Tsk, tsk. I wonder how I got that impression, I wonder? ::) ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 21st, 2018 at 8:22am Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:13am:
Do you think Muslims have any responsibility for ISIS? Or do they cease being responsible for their own actions once they stop getting what they want? |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Brian Ross on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:24pm freediver wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 8:22am:
Why did IS arise, Freediver? The American invasion of Iraq in 2003. Funny that. They started out as a branch of al Q'aeda but were told to piss off 'cause they were "too violent" which suggests what about how actually popular they were with the extremists. The US decision to invade was what created them. A decision based on lies about Weapons of Massed Distraction. Lies which you appear quite happy to support. ::) |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by freediver on Apr 21st, 2018 at 6:15pm Brian Ross wrote on Apr 21st, 2018 at 12:24pm:
Is that a yes or a no Brian? Do you think Muslims have any responsibility for ISIS? |
Title: Re: I'm a moslem. Can i come and live in your country Post by Karnal on Apr 22nd, 2018 at 10:50pm
FD, do you continue to uphold the use of porkies in the invasion of Iraq?
Feel free to excercise that infamous backbone of yours. |
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