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A FIVE-year-old boy has died after being stabbed during a domestic dispute at Carlingford this morning.

Police said the child was left with serious stab wounds about 7am and he fled with his grandmother to nearby Moseley St to raise the alarm.
Paramedics performed CPR and the boy was rushed by police escort to Westmead’s Children’s Hospital in a critical condition but died about an hour later.

A 36-year-old Carlingford man, who was a relative to the child, was arrested nearby and taken to Castle Hill Police Station and is currently being questioned. Charges are expected to be laid.

At a police press conference this morning, NSW Police Superintendent Rob Critchlow described it as a “very difficult” and “heartbreaking” situation that was going to affect the community.They are going to suffer badly from this,” Supt Critchlow told the media.

“As a community we’re poorer because we’ve lost a young man today.His wounds were so severe he died at 8.02 at the hospital, he said.

He said from what police could tell there was only the boy, the man who has been arrested and the grandmother in the house.



:'( :'( :'(

it never ends does it cods

A skim down the headlines on daily basis throws up case after case of males attacking, raping, killing, terrorising women and children.  It's a sullen drip drip, day after day

Most offenders whine and lie when before the courts.  Sure, they want to preserve their own liberty. They don't want to be taken from circulation.  They don't want to be inconvenienced.  They don't want to lose a moment of their precious lives in prison.  They believe they should be excused:  ' I was having a bad day your honour. I was coming down from ice, grog.  Make an exception for me.  Sure, I killed her, them, but it was an accident.  They provoked me.  Give me a bit of community service then let me go back to my mates, the footies, the grog, my beloved big car/bike muffler, porn, kicking the dog, coward-punching strangers for a laugh

I don't want to be locked up, mate !  Geez, nine years !  You reckon that's fair?  All I did was biff her around a bit.  Not my fault she had a soft skull.  All I did was punch that guy in the head -- not my fault he fell and died.  He was old, anyway, and wouldn't have had long to live. I did him a favour in a way.  Don't lock me up mate, not me, c'mon, show some leniency

What !?? Three years for raping that chick?  You gotta be joking !  She's a slut.  She was asking for it.  She shoulda paid me !  No way am I going inside mate.   Fix it.  Isn't that what solicitors are for?

What??  You're going to slam me inside for stabbing my kid?  You know I didn't mean to !  As if I would.  He was being annoying/got in the damn way.  I was off my head on ice/steroids/grog.  I'd give my life for that kid, ask anyone.  I'm a good dad.  Get me a lawyer.  This isn't fair ... '

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 2:44pm:

[urlhttps://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/hills-shire-times/carlingford-boy-5-stabbed-at-home/news-story/ad91d83f54cbbf80a9fb33c051a88d4f][/url] A FIVE-year-old boy has died after being stabbed during a domestic dispute at Carlingford this morning. Police said the child was left with serious stab wounds about 7am and he fled with his grandmother to nearby Moseley St to raise the alarm. Paramedics performed CPR and the boy was rushed by police escort to Westmead’s Children’s Hospital in a critical condition but died about an hour later. A 36-year-old Carlingford man, who was a relative to the child, was arrested nearby and taken to Castle Hill Police Station and is currently being questioned. Charges are expected to be laid. At a police press conference this morning, NSW Police Superintendent Rob Critchlow described it as a “very difficult” and “heartbreaking” situation that was going to affect the community.They are going to suffer badly from this,” Supt Critchlow told the media. “As a community we’re poorer because we’ve lost a young man today.His wounds were so severe he died at 8.02 at the hospital, he said. He said from what police could tell there was only the boy, the man who has been arrested and the grandmother in the house. :'( :'( :'(

Appalling.

Just today alone, from one far from inclusive news source:

Dad With Boy He Allegedly Stabbed to Death

Perth Mother's Three Killers Jailed

Police Still Searching Lynette White's Killer 45 Years On

West Australian Hostel Parent Jailed for (historic) Sex Abuse (eight child victims)

Cold Case Murder Rachelle Childs.  Murdered 2001.  Set alight using petrol

Qld Man to Face Trial for Murder.  Wife's Remains found under couple's former home

Toddler Suffers Facial Injury from Two Men Brawling

West Australian Doctor Accused of Sex Attack on Patient

Day after day, like some sort of weather report

Aussie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 3:17pm:

cods wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 2:44pm: [urlhttps://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/hills-shire-times/carlingford-boy-5-stabbed-at-home/news-story/ad91d83f54cbbf80a9fb33c051a88d4f][/url] A FIVE-year-old boy has died after being stabbed during a domestic dispute at Carlingford this morning. Police said the child was left with serious stab wounds about 7am and he fled with his grandmother to nearby Moseley St to raise the alarm. Paramedics performed CPR and the boy was rushed by police escort to Westmead’s Children’s Hospital in a critical condition but died about an hour later. A 36-year-old Carlingford man, who was a relative to the child, was arrested nearby and taken to Castle Hill Police Station and is currently being questioned. Charges are expected to be laid. At a police press conference this morning, NSW Police Superintendent Rob Critchlow described it as a “very difficult” and “heartbreaking” situation that was going to affect the community.They are going to suffer badly from this,” Supt Critchlow told the media. “As a community we’re poorer because we’ve lost a young man today.His wounds were so severe he died at 8.02 at the hospital, he said. He said from what police could tell there was only the boy, the man who has been arrested and the grandmother in the house. :'( :'( :'( Appalling.

It will be in the headlines for a few days.  Charged.  Then nothing for months or years.  End result will be aggravated manslaughter or something.  Mitigating circumstances: stress, drugs, grog, slipped on his thong, son ran into him, dog barked, whatever. Sentenced to eight years minus however long he's held at the start.  Out in four years or less, before the child's body even has time to decompose fully

Will marry again, have more kids, will live into old age

Hurt a child

DIE

Simple rule to live by

Need a licence to drive

Need no licence to breed

To obtain a driving licence there's at least a pretence of assessing their fitness and suitability

No assessment as to fitness to breed


What could possibly go wrong?

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 3:47pm:

Need a licence to drive Need no licence to breed To obtain a driving licence there's at least a pretence of assessing their fitness and suitability No assessment as to fitness to breed What could possibly go wrong?

its all too hard... lets face it they take children away from parents for every crime under the sun ...

then leave the parents to go on breeding


makes sense to some!

we let paedophiles out because its inhuman to deny them freedom    yet they not only ruin an enormous amount of lives   they also take many....

yet their freedom is important...no matter what consequence it may have... >:( >:(

cods wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 3:55pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 3:47pm: Need a licence to drive Need no licence to breed To obtain a driving licence there's at least a pretence of assessing their fitness and suitability No assessment as to fitness to breed What could possibly go wrong? its all too hard... lets face it they take children away from parents for every crime under the sun ... then leave the parents to go on breeding makes sense to some! we let paedophiles out because its inhuman to deny them freedom    yet they not only ruin an enormous amount of lives   they also take many.... yet their freedom is important...no matter what consequence it may have... >:( >:(

Any pedo touches my kids or grandkids.

I'll take them fishing.

They be the bait.

A Queensland man who set his teenage girlfriend on fire and left her with permanent scarring has been sentenced to 11 years in jail.

in latest news, Nine News

he'll be out long before 11 years

Now where are all the fathers, brother, uncles who'll be there when he emerges and waves ta ta to his prison boyfriends?  Where are they who'll give him a taste of his own medicine as a learning-experience and lesson to any other tough-guys who're thinking of doing as he did ?

Anyone who touches anyone of mine will rue it to their dying day.  And when they die, I'll be there waiting for them and will chase them through hell

So called Law needs to harden up.  A'holes do not learn through BS 'rehabilitation'.  They only learn through personal pain.  That's the conclusion of researchers who investigated 'rehabilitation' for 20 years.  Mothers without a day of education know that.  Bite your brother and he'll bite you back.  If he refuses, I will bite you back.  Guarantee you won't bite anyone again you little brat and if you do, I'll continue biting you hard until you learn to keep your fangs to yourself.  That's how mothers deal with it.  The Law pretends it knows better

Ok. Fine.  Then judges and their families should be forced to house all those offenders they're so keen to let out on parole.  The law would change damn fast then

Quote:

That's the conclusion of researchers who investigated 'rehabilitation' for 20 years.

Link?

Aussie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 4:01pm:

Quote: That's the conclusion of researchers who investigated 'rehabilitation' for 20 years. Link?

Don't have a link, sorry Aussie

Read it about twenty years ago.  It used to be online.  Maybe it still is in some dark corner, but I haven't been able to find it recently

It was a scholarly article resultant from a two decade study conducted in the UK.  The researchers announced that rehabilitation -- which had been a very costly exercise -- was no effective.  The researchers said their studies had exposed that rehabilitation was basically a waste of time and money despite all the hoohah

The researchers said their studies had shown conclusively that the only deterent lay in offenders fear of the punishment they'd receive if their crimes were discovered.  In other words, personal pain (prison, deprivation of liberty, etc.) was the only thing preventing offenders from offending again

The researchers said they were very disappointed to have to make the announcement

well we dont take the law into our own hands...

and to be honest I am in favor of that....
the world is violent enough without adding more.

what we are doing though  isnt working.... jail doesnt frighten anyone today....no such thing has hard labour anymore....why would they be afraid... the sentence may get longer...in some cases but the time spent in there doesnt?...

they are given all sorts of protection when are they are allowed out.....they are not even shamed........

little William Tyrrell... was he taken by some sex fiend??....someone took him   he didnt go by himself....

we have to make the consequences harder for them to bare.... at least 25 years in goal   no early parole...nothing to look forward too...but bleak.

The only thing keeping me going when my children were growing up was to assure the universe that should anyone dare to harm them, I would turn into the monster from hell and wreak vengeance

Fortunately I didn't have to follow through

For the most of mankind's history however, people were compelled to be their own police, their own law.  And for the most part, they did it very well and were far more effective that what passes for policing and law today

In the UK, it's reported that police catch less than one in ten offenders.  So not working too well, is it

Who would blame police?  If they do manage to catch the offender, they're hamstrung by 'law' at every turn

Sentences are extremely lenient in comparison to the crimes. Reoffenders are common

People say and many believe that the law sides with the criminals.  Police must feel likewise and seeing their hard work undone every day by judges who seem to be the debil in many instance serve only to demoralise and demotivate police and put fear into the hearts of the public

Vigilantism needs to make a big comeback in my opinion.  Shake this stupid system to the core

Those opposed to vigilantism cry that innocents may suffer and die and out they come with 'better to let ten men go free than punish an innocent '.  Doubt that's going to keep the lid on much longer

Sure, innocents may die as result of vigilantism.  But innocents are dying anyway.  We're all going to die anyway.  So in my view, whilst accepting that some innocents may be unjustly harmed by vigilantism, the risk is worth it if it means nine beasts are dealt with conclusively

Wars will not be fought on the ground in the future.  Millions of innocents will die.  Not only that, if nukes start flying around, society will collapse overnight.  There will be no power, no lights, no energy and no police.  Entire armies would not be able to control the lawlessness for even 24 hours.  It will be dog eats dog in every street and town.  In an instant, it will be back to the jungle time.  Doors kicked down, families slaughtered.  Roaming gangs of human animals having a ball.  Without end

There will be no room for niceties, no escape.  Every man, woman and child for themselves.  And they'd better have a weapon and a lot of luck to last a week


Right now, there's a war going on but it's low key.  People still believe the police are at the end of their phone.  We're living in a fool's paradise that could shatter in an instant


Telling an offender that you're a nice and good person won't cut much ice.  They don't care.  Nice people are easiest to subdue, rob, rape, kill.  And religion has watched billions die in agony, time and time again


Funny how vigilantism solves so many problems for the 'elite'.  Guy supposedly shot  JFK.  Then just as fast, a vigilante killed teh alleged killer.  But don't try that at home folks ....

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 4:26pm:

The only thing keeping me going when my children were growing up was to assure the universe that should anyone dare to harm them, I would turn into the monster from hell and wreak vengeance Fortunately I didn't have to follow through For the most of mankind's history however, people were compelled to be their own police, their own law.  And for the most part, they did it very well and were far more effective that what passes for policing and law today In the UK, it's reported that police catch less than one in ten offenders.  So not working too well, is it Who would blame police?  If they do manage to catch the offender, they're hamstrung by 'law' at every turn Sentences are extremely lenient in comparison to the crimes. Reoffenders are common People say and many believe that the law sides with the criminals.  Police must feel likewise and seeing their hard work undone every day by judges who seem to be the devil in many instance serve only to demoralise and demotivate police and put fear into the hearts of the public Vigilantism needs to make a big comeback in my opinion.  Shake this stupid system to the core Those opposed to vigilantism cry that innocents may suffer and die and out they come with 'better to let ten men go free than punish an innocent '.  Doubt that's going to keep the lid on much longer Sure, innocents may die as result of vigilantism.  But innocents are dying anyway.  We're all going to die anyway.  So in my view, whilst accepting that some innocents may be unjustly harmed by vigilantism, the risk is worth it if it means nine beasts are dealt with conclusively Wars will not be fought on the ground in the future.  Millions of innocents will die.  Not only that, if nukes start flying around, society will collapse overnight.  There will be no power, no lights, no energy and no police.  Entire armies would not be able to control the lawlessness for even 24 hours.  It will be dog eats dog in every street and town.  In an instant, it will be back to the jungle time.  Doors kicked down, families slaughtered.  Roaming gangs of human animals having a ball.  Without end There will be no room for niceties, no escape.  Every man, woman and child for themselves.  And they'd better have a weapon and a lot of luck to last a week Right now, there's a war going on but it's low key.  People still believe the police are at the end of their phone.  We're living in a fool's paradise that could shatter in an instant Telling an offender that you're a nice and good person won't cut much ice.  They don't care.  Nice people are easiest to subdue, rob, rape, kill.  And religion has watched billions die in agony, time and time again Funny how vigilantism solves so many problems for the 'elite'.  Guy supposedly shot  JFK.  Then just as fast, a vigilante killed teh alleged killer.  But don't try that at home folks ....

hang em and hang em high.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 4:07pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 4:01pm: Quote: That's the conclusion of researchers who investigated 'rehabilitation' for 20 years. Link? Don't have a link, sorry Aussie Read it about twenty years ago.  It used to be online.  Maybe it still is in some dark corner, but I haven't been able to find it recently It was a scholarly article resultant from a two decade study conducted in the UK.  The researchers announced that rehabilitation -- which had been a very costly exercise -- was no effective.  The researchers said their studies had exposed that rehabilitation was basically a waste of time and money despite all the hoohah The researchers said their studies had shown conclusively that the only deterent lay in offenders fear of the punishment they'd receive if their crimes were discovered.  In other words, personal pain (prison, deprivation of liberty, etc.) was the only thing preventing offenders from offending again The researchers said they were very disappointed to have to make the announcement

But that is not what you first said which was......


Quote:

A'holes do not learn through BS 'rehabilitation'.  They only learn through personal pain.

And you went on to an example of 'biting.'

Quote:

Vigilantism needs to make a big comeback in my opinion.  Shake this stupid system to the core

that all well and good    until you honk your horn at someone  who doesnt take lightly to it..

follows you home and knocks you senseless... and you wake up in a wheelchair for life..

::) ::)

Better to call off the war between men and women and just negotiate a proper peace treaty....

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 3:58pm:

A Queensland man who set his teenage girlfriend on fire and left her with permanent scarring has been sentenced to 11 years in jail. in latest news, Nine News he'll be out long before 11 years Now where are all the fathers, brother, uncles who'll be there when he emerges and waves ta ta to his prison boyfriends?  Where are they who'll give him a taste of his own medicine as a learning-experience and lesson to any other tough-guys who're thinking of doing as he did ? Anyone who touches anyone of mine will rue it to their dying day.  And when they die, I'll be there waiting for them and will chase them through hell So called Law needs to harden up.  A'holes do not learn through BS 'rehabilitation'.  They only learn through personal pain.  That's the conclusion of researchers who investigated 'rehabilitation' for 20 years.  Mothers without a day of education know that.  Bite your brother and he'll bite you back.  If he refuses, I will bite you back.  Guarantee you won't bite anyone again you little brat and if you do, I'll continue biting you hard until you learn to keep your fangs to yourself.  That's how mothers deal with it.  The Law pretends it knows better Ok. Fine.  Then judges and their families should be forced to house all those offenders they're so keen to let out on parole.  The law would change damn fast then

Obviously not my daughter..... that sub-human would walk free as long as it took for me to line him up.

You have to bear in mind that the general populace have been so pussy-whipped to keep them under control that any vigilante work is considered a crime.... and will be punished relentlessly.

So many people will not consider de-balling someone who violates their very own.

they say it is the little boys father that stabbed him over and over again.... :'( :'(

I agree with PZ   it will probably be a year before the guy gets even close to court by that time...a lot of water has flowed....and this dear little soul will be mostly forgotten.... :'( :'(

its just as well we cant get our hands on these persons..

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Better to call off the war between men and women and just negotiate a proper peace treaty....

totally agree- its the the kids who are getting hurt- and while being a vigilante sounds like the fun option- its the not the way to go- I think you would have made a great dad Bobby

Latest update I've seen...

"The 36-year-old man, who is known to police, was charged at Castle Hill Police Station and refused bail to appear before the Parramatta Bail Court tomorrow."

Bobby. wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 4:33pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 4:26pm: The only thing keeping me going when my children were growing up was to assure the universe that should anyone dare to harm them, I would turn into the monster from hell and wreak vengeance Fortunately I didn't have to follow through     For the most of mankind's history however, people were compelled to be their own police, their own law.  And for the most part, they did it very well and were far more effective that what passes for policing and law today In the UK, it's reported that police catch less than one in ten offenders.  So not working too well, is it Who would blame police?  If they do manage to catch the offender, they're hamstrung by 'law' at every turn Sentences are extremely lenient in comparison to the crimes. Reoffenders are common People say and many believe that the law sides with the criminals.  Police must feel likewise and seeing their hard work undone every day by judges who seem to be the devil in many instance serve only to demoralise and demotivate police and put fear into the hearts of the public Vigilantism needs to make a big comeback in my opinion.  Shake this stupid system to the core Those opposed to vigilantism cry that innocents may suffer and die and out they come with 'better to let ten men go free than punish an innocent '.  Doubt that's going to keep the lid on much longer Sure, innocents may die as result of vigilantism.  But innocents are dying anyway.  We're all going to die anyway.  So in my view, whilst accepting that some innocents may be unjustly harmed by vigilantism, the risk is worth it if it means nine beasts are dealt with conclusively Wars will not be fought on the ground in the future.  Millions of innocents will die.  Not only that, if nukes start flying around, society will collapse overnight.  There will be no power, no lights, no energy and no police.  Entire armies would not be able to control the lawlessness for even 24 hours.  It will be dog eats dog in every street and town.  In an instant, it will be back to the jungle time.  Doors kicked down, families slaughtered.  Roaming gangs of human animals having a ball.  Without end There will be no room for niceties, no escape.  Every man, woman and child for themselves.  And they'd better have a weapon and a lot of luck to last a week Right now, there's a war going on but it's low key.  People still believe the police are at the end of their phone.  We're living in a fool's paradise that could shatter in an instant Telling an offender that you're a nice and good person won't cut much ice.  They don't care.  Nice people are easiest to subdue, rob, rape, kill.  And religion has watched billions die in agony, time and time again Funny how vigilantism solves so many problems for the 'elite'.  Guy supposedly shot  JFK.  Then just as fast, a vigilante killed teh alleged killer.  But don't try that at home folks .... hang em and hang em high. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE

a great dad Bobby I bet you were

Valkie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 3:42pm:

Hurt a child DIE Simple rule to live by

What about Dwarves, that look like kids?

"It's an inanimate object"

mozzaok wrote on Jun 9^th, 2018 at 8:14am:

Valkie wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 3:42pm: Hurt a child DIE Simple rule to live by What about Dwarves, that look like kids? "It's an inanimate object"

I dont see anything to mock ion this story... his own father and everyone is saying he was a terrific dad...

so what brings a "terrific" to stab his 5 yr old multiple times..????


I cant wrap my head around it.. a week ago a grandfather shoots his whole family??? :( :( :( :( :(

life cant be that big a burden surely! :'(

Aussie wrote on Jun 8^th, 2018 at 5:33pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 4:07pm: Aussie wrote on Jun 8th, 2018 at 4:01pm: Quote: That's the conclusion of researchers who investigated 'rehabilitation' for 20 years. Link? Don't have a link, sorry Aussie Read it about twenty years ago.  It used to be online.  Maybe it still is in some dark corner, but I haven't been able to find it recently It was a scholarly article resultant from a two decade study conducted in the UK.  The researchers announced that rehabilitation -- which had been a very costly exercise -- was no effective.  The researchers said their studies had exposed that rehabilitation was basically a waste of time and money despite all the hoohah The researchers said their studies had shown conclusively that the only deterent lay in offenders fear of the punishment they'd receive if their crimes were discovered.  In other words, personal pain (prison, deprivation of liberty, etc.) was the only thing preventing offenders from offending again The researchers said they were very disappointed to have to make the announcement But that is not what you first said which was...... [quote]A'holes do not learn through BS 'rehabilitation'.  They only learn through personal pain.

And you went on to an example of 'biting.'
[/quote]



You surprise me, Aussie.  For some reason I believed you'd know the difference between rehabilitation, i.e., ' Now Jakob, you've been biting your little sister a lot.  Do you want to talk about that?  What made you start biting your sister, do you remember?  No?  You don't want to talk about it?  Ok. That's ok Jakob.  Do you want to do some colouring-in?  No, Jakob … don't eat the crayons please.  Ouch !  Jakob, you bit me !  That's not nice, Jakob.  Ok, ok.  It's ok.  Don't cry.  It's nothing, just a bite. I know you didn't mean it.  It's ok, Jakob.  Calm down.  Let's take you for a little nap, shall we Jakob?  Yes, you'd like that?  And you want chocolate milk?  And Twisties?  Ok Jakob, let's see what we can rustle up for you.  Then after your nap, maybe we could have another little chat about biting your sister?  No?  No?  You don't want to talk about it?  You want to play with your computer?  Ok, Jakob, ok.  That's fine.  Maybe we could have a little talk about the biting next week, eh?  No?  You don't want to?  Ok Jakob.  Don't get upset.  Everything's fine.  It's fine.  Ouch!  Damn!  You bit me again Jakob !  That HURT !  Ok, ok, Jakob.  Don't cry.  It was my fault, I agree.  I'll stop talking about the biting.  Here, here .. have some more Twisties … '

and: 

Grabbing Jakob's arm.

Jakob lets out a scream

Ok Jakob.  You felt that eh?  Hurt, didn't it?  That's right.  I bit you.  How do you like it?  That's what you did to your sister.  How's it feel?  Sore?  Hurts?  Yep, it hurts, doesn't it?  Just the way you hurt your sister.  Bite your sister again you little shite and I'll rip your bloody arm off, you get it?  I'll bite effing chunks of you.  My teeth are bigger than yours.  So leave your sister alone.  Do not bite anyone, or I'll rip your damn teeth out and put you in a cage with savage dogs who'll bite you to bits '


Jakob nods.  He gets it.  He's already quit biting others

Quote:

A Sydney father will remain behind bars after he allegedly stabbed his five-year-old son to death in an incident described by police as "horrendous". The 36-year-old did not apply for bail and it was formally refused during an appearance at Parramatta Bail Court on Saturday following the alleged murder a day earlier. The father, who cannot be named for legal reasons, asked "where am I" as he appeared via video link. His next mention at Parramatta Local Court is scheduled for July 30

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