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General Discussion >> America >> Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1533587956 Message started by The Mechanic on Aug 7th, 2018 at 6:39am |
Title: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by The Mechanic on Aug 7th, 2018 at 6:39am Quote:
Freedom of Speech just died... :-/ |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 7th, 2018 at 7:05am
Infowars and Alex Jones continually breached their Terms of Service by lying and spreading fake news.
I thought you'd be applauding something like this given how much you accuse people of lying and spreading fake news on here. And is there really any surprise this is happening? The President is doing nothing about the Russian interference and how they were able to sway opinion using their troll farms, so the services that were exploited are doing the work to protect the sanctity of the democratic process themselves despite the inaction from the oval office. The only reason someone like Alex Jones is getting caught up in this is because like many out on the fringe, he uses conspiracy in place of facts and pushes narratives that are not only total bullshit and demonstrably untrue, but they hurt real people, be they the families of the victims of terrible tragedies that Infowars claims were deep state hoaxes or he stirs up the crazies into taking guns to pizza places and threatens lives (for example). Infowars have always pushed the boundaries of free speech vs yelling "Fire" in a crowded building or making a fake bomb threat. I'm still surprised time and time again that you Mech, someone who apparently cares deeply about the truth given how you attack people for what you deem their lies, will align yourself with someone like Trump or Alex Jones who are well documented in their abandonment of the truth. This is but another example. Jones is just a nutter out in the fringe and Trump is in survival mode, willing to say or do anything to protect himself. When they have people who look up to them and take their word as gospel, it's dangerous. Like, costs lives dangerous. YouTube, Facebook etc are enforcing their terms of service as they have every right to do as a public company. This is nothing new. Just look up the “adpocalypse” where people talking about Transgender issues or would report on school shootings as a news/commentary show, they would lose their monetisation all the time, even if they were anti-guns simply because of the content they were covering was no longer advertiser friendly. Where is your outrage for their plight? You think Infowars is advertiser friendly? Of course not. This is not a new, conservative targeting measure. That idea is yet another conspiracy mostly pushed by Infowars to help their publicity. One loud mouth conservative nutbar who has a following that would see an Illuminati conspiracy in their cereal bowl if there for more green fruit loops than purple ones are being vocal about issues they laughed about when it was causing Liberal Tears when it was those on the left who were impacted by these changes are now squealing like a stuck pig because one of their own has had to follow these new rules, didn't and has been banned after numerous warnings and take downs. President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 6:39am:
YouTube and Facebook are platforms where they generate an income by companies advertising. These companies have made it clear they don't want their names or products associated with the likes of Infowars due to the content and lies they spread. Infowars didn't change their ways and were therefore demonetised. Since they're also been pushing false narratives or fake news for years, this is also starting to catch up to them. Capitalism at work. Again, from the things you claim to care about Mech, you should be applauding this move. Let the market sort itself out and stop the spread of lies and fake news. You laughed when this was happening to those campaigning for better regulations of guns or would post about transgender issues, but you're up in arms when it's content you like having the rules enforced? Cry me a river hypocrite… |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 7th, 2018 at 7:41am The Mechanic gets owned, once again :) |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 7th, 2018 at 8:08am
Yes Mechanic they are censoring all media that differs from the mainstream narrative.
The only way to control public opinion is through censorship because they would lose in open debate when the facts come out. How **** weak! |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 7th, 2018 at 8:39am
SO richdude you're comfortable listening to a guy who claimed that they were all actors in the Sandy Hook massacre?
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:21am
the marxists have understood that control of the media, the schools and the universities was paramount to their evil plan to destroy western society.
western society is capitalist. the marxists dont want to do the hard work to compete. they find it easier to destroy and they had to seize control of the indocrination available through the mediums to achieve this goal. the trouble is that the young people have not known adversity. 50 % of teenagers think marxism is a better system then capitalism!!! a system that saw 150 million people starve to death in the 20th century and thats what they aspire to. personally, i think the patriachy and the noble capitalists are all that is standing between these callow youth and mayhem and starvation. they may get their revolution. it will start 24 hours after these snowflakes miss their previous 2 meals ;) |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:30am Richdude wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 8:08am:
Only that's not true. Look at all the "left" and "progressive" or even SJW content that is being removed and demonetised from YouTube at the moment. It's not a conservative thing, it's an advertiser-friendly issue. Here's a pro-tip, attacking the families of victims of gun massacres and pretending that their children never existed or were crisis actors is not advertiser-friendly. Calling on your viewers to stand up and "do something" about x y z that is a total fabrication that leads the unhinged viewers who believe their lies taking up arms, that's not advertiser-friendly. The final line passed was the constant lies that get put out, the inciting violence etc, they're against the Terms of Service of the platofrm(s). Infowars had been warned, they'd been flagged, but they didn't change their ways, in fact, they've posted more controversial content since this started. It's as if they wanted to be banned for publicity sake or to stoke the fires of their next conspiracy, that being that conservatives are being censored. It's simply not true. If you want to insist that it is, I expect that you'll have the numbers from YouTube showing all the "leaning" of the content they've had to remove and it shows a huge bias towards conservative content being removed, but even that wouldn't be the full story. That should prompt an investigation into why these lists of contents had been removed. It could just be that the conservatives are posting more material that is against their terms of service. Again, there is no evidence to show that the right is being targeted, not enough to call for an actual investigation. Let alone enough to claim that it's true and there is a conspiracy in motion... |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by FD bring back mothra and JS on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:35am
Two good posts by Sad Kangaroo!
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:37am aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:21am:
You talk about capitalism, this is capitalism in action. A private for-profit company has decided what content they deem advertiser-friendly in order to continue making money, and the content Infowars post to their platform is too toxic to remain without the risk of hurting their bottom line. It is a purely capitalist decision. It's not a free speech issue. Don't feed into Infowars latest conspiracy that this is a deliberate plot against them. You either like capitalism, or you want YouTube regulated by the Government to force them to keep any and all content no matter the legality or how much it costs them in advertising revenue, all in the name of free speech. It's as if you want the content that is advertiser-friendly to subsidise the content that isn't. Socialism of content? Shall we have the Government fund the shortfall? If it's good enough for YouTube and conspiracy videos, surely we can have a serious conversation about Universal Health Care or a Universal Basic Income for the decades to come as innovation changes the jobs landscape forever, again? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:50am
sad.
i get it. capitalism is the victim of its own success. people have become used to prosperity that people 200 years ago could not even aspire to. we are hierachical creatures. relative wealth is far more important then absolute wealth. and we want maximum value for minimum effort. i TOTALLY get why a 20 yo would think "why should i grind it out and go thru the pain to contribute to the society and continue the prosperity? Bill Gates has billions. he should give some to me." i get why people think that way. we are self centred egocentric creatures. marxism appeals to the selfish, the lazy, the weak and the cowardly aspects of our psyche. its a lot easier message to sell, then "get out there and lift a load". the problem is that the successful people (the patriachy) are seen as oppressors by the marxists. whereas it is your being embedded in the patriachy that keeps you safe. the callow youth are in for a rude awakening. thats for sure. i"ll be interested if the heads of facebook, apple and amazon are willing to share with the callow youth when the patriachy is finally "done". my suspicion is that they are cheering a lot of young people off the cliff ;) |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:09am aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:21am:
GOd damn it, every day you jujst increase the idiocy. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:25am
Infowars is entertainment, pure fantasy spun to pass as reality to an entire demographic of retards. Who cares what happens to it?
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:28am AiA wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:25am:
It's not a serious news outlet? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ePLkAm8i2s |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:33am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:09am:
really? really? you really think its a good thing that more teenagers support socialism then the current system? how many more corpses need to stack up til you realise that is a very bad idea. callow youth we can excuse, callow adults are just reprehensible |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:33am greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:28am:
He sends viewers to Wikipedia as a reference which states the "gay bomb" is "non-existent" ;D |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 7th, 2018 at 11:12am aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 9:50am:
I appreciate the reply, but none of that is relevant in the slightest, not in this thread anyway. You're trying to obfuscate through sheer volume. You claimed that this was an example of Marxists trying to control the media. You couldn't be more wrong, it's capitalism doing what it does. If you don't like that your issue is with capitalism, not blaming the left. You are at a fork in the road, you can look more critically at the system you champion or blame someone else. An Alpha move or an Omega move, the choice is yours. You know this and since you hold "noble capitalism" so high, you're trying to blame it on something else already. The point is, this is not a free speech issue, pretending otherwise is an exercise of ignorance or deliberate manipulation. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 7th, 2018 at 11:14am aquascoot wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:33am:
I actually do, becuase the youth I know who are "socialists" in your opinion are worried about helping other people, improving their lot. E.g. I went to Timor Leste with a shitload of socialist students. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Unforgiven on Aug 7th, 2018 at 11:25am
Right-wing extremists will never be denied news as long as there are public toilet doors.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 7th, 2018 at 11:51am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 11:14am:
Ive worked with Church groups who give their lives to help others or others who give a lot of their time and money to help others. This is 'socialism' according to morons like Aqua. Trouble is, most would be considered conservatives or at worst centrists. capitalism without a socialist touch is as evil as pure socialism is. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 7th, 2018 at 12:28pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbNbGZriIA
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 7th, 2018 at 12:36pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 11:51am:
Ours was running them for the Uni. So some students run PE classes for the primary schools, some teach first aid to villagers for them to take back to their village. We were seeing how we can go about running science education in the high schools. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 7th, 2018 at 12:49pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 8:39am:
So censorship of opinions you don't agree with is OK? That makes you comfortable? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 7th, 2018 at 12:50pm Richdude wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 12:49pm:
How is it censorship? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 7th, 2018 at 4:41pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 12:36pm:
I used to work for a Christian group that translated the Bible into indigenous languages but they also brought basic literacy and numeracy as well as general aid to societies in need. For my efforts in that group, i was 'outed' as a CIA agent (true!) and one I worked with as a nuclear weapons specialist. The truth is I was a computer consultant in the 80s and he was a Phd in physics turning his hand to linguistics. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by The Mechanic on Aug 7th, 2018 at 5:45pm Richdude wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 8:08am:
look whats to come if the Democrats win the next election.. Quote:
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 7th, 2018 at 5:46pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 5:45pm:
get that from infowars or another of your crazy lunatic sites? idiot |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 7th, 2018 at 5:54pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 5:46pm:
Yes. The Gateway Pundit. He still "thinks" it's a legitimate news site ;D |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 8th, 2018 at 12:33am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 8:39am:
So you like news that makes you comfortable and reject all that doesn't - that figures. The purpose of news is to inform you not to arbitrarily censor stories they don't like. Sorry to wake you out of your stupor but ever heard of principals. You love Hillary Clinton and think she was framed - should you be banned for saying that? They are out to destroy Alex Jones because of his opposing opinions, support for nationalism over globalism and of course Trump. I don't want an Orwellian nightmare of censorship and this is a war against knowledge. We have a right to all information, not just what a few decide upon - that's tyranny - modern day book burning. Bojack off to work. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 8th, 2018 at 12:43am Richdude wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 12:33am:
Trump is creating just that with his constant attacks on the Free Press. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Karnal on Aug 8th, 2018 at 12:47am AiA wrote on Aug 7th, 2018 at 10:25am:
Yes, but apart from Fox News and the Mechanic"s secret source, who's going to give Mr Trump a fair go now? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 8th, 2018 at 5:56am Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 12:47am:
he has been very very savvy in establishing a direct link, via twitter to his base, so that the media is effectively by-passed. cometh the hour, cometh the man |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by The Mechanic on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:19am Quote:
The Conservative Purge Continues... Free Speech is Dead... :-/ kiss your land goodbye as deep state and their owners flood your country of Islamic murderers, rapist and criminals... |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:26am aquascoot wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 5:56am:
cum-eth the Trump without a condom sayeth Stormy Daniels ... |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by The Mechanic on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:26am Quote:
Just imagine is FASCIST Hillary Clinton had have been elected.... the US would have been ******.. with the rest of the world falling like domino's after that... |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:32am AiA wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:26am:
how would hilary have gone as a playboy bunny :D :D |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by The Mechanic on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:32am Quote:
the fascist left marches forward.. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:42am President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:19am:
mechanic, that ship sailed 50 years ago. the marxist intellectuals took over the universities and the universities set the tone for the teachers and the schools and eventually the culture of society. zuckerburg and the bloke who runs amazon are so deeply drenched in the PC marxist culture, that they are ideologically possessed. katey perry, jennifer lawrence, all the hollywood starlets....you cant blame them. blaming them for being left leaning snowflake hand wringing marxists is akin to blaming a 10 yo in north korea for clapping when Kim Jon comes to the school assembly. now the uni porfessors who did this....THEY are reprehensible people. but us conservatives took our eye off the ball. we let the left advance the ball 1 inch at a time we did not stand firm we ceeded ground all thru the 70's, the 80's, the 90's and the last decade. we really let our kids down terribly. to let them fall under the spell of these evil evil resentful bitter losers in academia. i feel a lot of guilt about how we let the socialists destroy society. when you get a weed in your paddock, you need to get it out immediately. we have let the weeds grow for 40 years. pushing them out can still be done, but its a massive task. we must see trump as like a huge tanker full of round - up and we must help him kill off these toxic species and stop the destruction of our noble pasture. but one thing i know about weeds...they are useless, they are parasites but they are hard to get rid of ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:52am aquascoot wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:32am:
An image you masturbate to? Yuck. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 8th, 2018 at 7:09am AiA wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:52am:
i think its part of the reason Bill was such a putz as a president and its part of the reason Donald is such a gangsta. when you are crushing it in the bedroom, you feel awesome and confident and then you can dominate in the business world. Bill would not have been going to work with much swagger. it must have been hard for him to hold it together in the west wing when he was feeling sorry for himself. a really weak and pathetic individual , in such a position, might try to get a bit of feminine contact with an intern.....oh wait :D :D |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Sad Kangaroo on Aug 8th, 2018 at 7:35am
So Mech, you're flat out ignoring information you don't like and substituting facts for fabrications that support your narrative.
How can you call anyone else a liar when you ignore the truth that you don't like?! |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:28am aquascoot wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 7:09am:
All hypothetical when your closest exposure ot a woman is a Pg 3 girl. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Karnal on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:41am aquascoot wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 5:56am:
That's true, Aquasccot. Mr Trump's Tweets are genius. RIGGED WITCH HUNT. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:44am
all the hysteria over banning sites like InfoWars???? You do realise the major reason for this is that they are getting sued for their insane nonsense over Sandy Hook and their continued harassment of the parents of murdered toddlers?? Apart from the moreal issue, these places dont want to be co-defendents in a suit against them.
Good riddance to infowars and the like. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:53am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:28am:
thats the "easy" way to have a sexual release. the hard way is to build a business, learn a skill, become a man of status, attract a quality woman. a young conservative male should be doing those things if a young leftie male is addicted to taking, being a good little socialist who sees work as a punishment, then he will definitely end up in his mummys basement staring at a page 3 girl. alphas like scooter and donald have a better game plan then that ;) |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:56am aquascoot wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 9:53am:
reading your responses to pretty much any post are always interesting because they are near text-book delusion. It is as if an alien on another planet is responding how he thinks humans would and misses the mark completely. You dont seem to understand human behaviour and relationships at all. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 8th, 2018 at 1:28pm
Atleast CANDACE OWENS is still rocking it: oh, ....and Jesse Lee Peterson is still smashing it....!
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:11pm
FFS can someone ban this bullshit scrolling text.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:17pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:11pm:
Even when it's not scrolling, it makes no sense at all. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:28pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:17pm:
DRAH has NEVER made any sense. His drug use has mushed his brain. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 8th, 2018 at 5:00pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:28pm:
Lol, yet you reckon spaghetti monsters are perfect specimens ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D .. Lol, yet you reckon spaghetti monsters are perfect specimens ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Lol, yet you reckon spaghetti monsters are perfect specimens ;D ;D ;D ;D ;Di ....................................... Lol, yet you reckon spaghetti monsters are perfect specimens ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ........ |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:10pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 4:28pm:
He says it's not drugs, though. Personally, I can't see any other explanation. Maybe he's so high he doesn't even realise he's on drugs. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:10pm:
::) ;D ;D ;D....ponders the zapped one from joke park! |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by The Mechanic on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:22pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:42am:
and here's a worrying incident which has just occurred... Quote:
the GOP won by 1% in this special election... if the same happens in the midterms... Trump is ******... |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:35pm President Elect, The Mechanic wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 6:22pm:
the GOP won by 1% in this special election... if the same happens in the midterms... Trump is ******... [/quote] and finally it dawns on you... Trump is hated and the Dems are energised while Republicans with a conscience are staying away in droves. They arent voting Dem but they arent voting republican either. You are slowly learning... |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:45pm
Only until recently did *conservatism* embrace hate-speech. Hopefully, cooler, more rational heads will prevail and *conservatism* will return to what it once was.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Karnal on Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:56pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:35pm:
and finally it dawns on you... Trump is hated and the Dems are energised while Republicans with a conscience are staying away in droves. They arent voting Dem but they arent voting republican either. You are slowly learning... [/quote] Learning? The Mechanic's saying how unfair it is. You know, a real old RIGGED WITCH HUNT. How dare the American voters vote against the Mechanic's wishes? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Karnal on Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:57pm AiA wrote on Aug 8th, 2018 at 10:45pm:
Do you mean like Longy? REPRINTED WITH PERMISSION. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:15am
You left wingers are such useless ...................
Facebook, Twitter.... et all can ban Alex Jones. They're are corporations and are thus free too. After all they don't like him - so the little petals have a right. But they also have a social contract that allows the free expression of all opinions that they now are in breach of. Of course this breach will not be exposed because the 1% elite hate Alex Jones more than anyone. The political pendulum swings. Many years ago the right had control of the media - lefty's were censored and now its vice versa. So how would feel if your favorite left wing loony was banned from the media? Or am I asking too much from you soft headed twats. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:18am Richdude wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:15am:
Tell me, what is the equivalent of Alex Jones on the *Left*? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:33am AiA wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:18am:
maxine waters rachel maddow |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:03am AiA wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:18am:
So you would happy that the MSM/deep state/elite cabal does whatever it wants without opposition? WMD, "babies thrown out of incubators" for example that results in over a million deaths in a war that achieves nothing. Another 9/11 or worse! Are you that stupid? We NEED the Alex Jones's of this World - an opposition to the hegemony of MSM. Only fools think its OK to ban people "cozz I dan't lark 'im". Sound like you AiA? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:20am
Alex Jones has his own website. Here it is: https://www.infowars.com/ Nobody is stopping you from indulging all you want. Treat him like another form of entertainment: internet porn - Alex has the same effect on your brain as it does.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:15am aquascoot wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:33am:
you obviously dont know who alex jones is. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:17am Richdude wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:03am:
alex jones is harrassing Sandy Hook parents claiming they lied and no kids died. That isnt 'free speech'. That is the type of speech where someone beats the crap outa you while the cops look the other way and the crowd cheers. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:26am
Alex Jones has no equivalent on any political spectrum. None.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:26am longweekend58 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:15am:
*adds that to the incredibly long list of poo aqua knows nothing about* |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AiA on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:44am
Jones is dangerous:
This week, the new york times reported that Alex Jones, InfoWars founder and professional peddler of lies, is seeking more than $100,000 in court costs from the family of Noah Pozner, one of the 20 children who were murdered in the massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in 2012. Jones is seeking that amount to recover the court costs involved with his legal defense: Veronique De La Rosa and Leonard Pozner, Noah’s mother and father, sued Jones for defamation because of the conspiracy theories he spread about the Sandy Hook murders. Jones insisted that the kids’ deaths were a great hoax, a performance staged by gun-control activists backed by the American government. As a result of that, Noah Pozner’s family says, they have been stalked and subjected to death threats by Jones’s legions of epistemically gullible yet digitally savvy followers—a fact that has, doxxing by doxxing, forced them to move seven times over the past five years, ever farther away from the body of their slain son. To reiterate: Alex Jones is seeking money from the parents of a murdered child because of a series of lies that have cruelly compounded the family’s suffering since the initial tragedy—lies that Jones, himself, has spread. https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2018/08/the-lasting-trauma-of-alex-joness-lies/566573/ |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:45am
Indeed. One of my life goals is to be blocked by Alex jones or Paul Joseph Watson
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:50am AiA wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 7:20am:
You watch a lot of porn AiA? You lefty's celebrate "diversity" except when it conflicts with your narrow minded ideas. Why not diversity of opinions? And there is your hypocrisy - pretending to accept diversity while actually rejecting it. Despicable! |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:53am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:45am:
Probably the pinnacle of your life's achievement. That is very sad - I'm genuinely sorry for you. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:55am Richdude wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:53am:
I have many life goals. That is merely one. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:00am AiA wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:44am:
Well those allegations are worth breaking the first amendment and highest law in the LAND! >:( Perfectly acceptable to your Marxist twat brain. Only criminals conspire to break a 250 year old law that is basis of American life. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:02am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:55am:
Glad to hear. Please tell us the others. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:03am Richdude wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:02am:
Get my Timor project to sustainable level. 200 km cycle ride. Caving in Tasmania. Finsih paying off my house Etc. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:03am AiA wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:44am:
How does ANYONE defend this maggot? IF I had been the father I'd be in jail and Jones would be in a grave - assuming they could find a jury to convict me. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:04am Richdude wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:00am:
Which law is this? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:10am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:04am:
perhaps the best evidence of the amorality of a Trumptard is in defending Alex Jones. Free speech is not actually FREE. it comes at the cost of responsibility and Jone's 'free speech' might cost him his life and that is the responsibility he has to take. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:14am longweekend58 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:10am:
I always like to say free speech comes with 2 duties. 1. The duty to think before you open your mouth 2. The duty to accept all consequences for your speech |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:42am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:14am:
well said. That's what I meant but didnt articulate very well. It is tho an aspect of our society where everyone rabbits on about RIGHTS but RESPONSIBILITIES get little commentary. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:44am longweekend58 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:42am:
Its like the right to vote as well. Personally I dont get the voters who say I always vote Liberal or I always vote Labor. Every person should be a swinging voter. Why for instance do the farmers complain that they feel like the Nats are taking them for granted? Because the Nats know every time in those rural seats they'll get voted in, so they don't feel as though they have to fight for farmers votes. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:35pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Don't people have the right to choose under your fascist dictatorship? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:35pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:44am:
Don't people have the right to choose under your fascist dictatorship? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:46pm TheFunPolice wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:35pm:
Look....twice the stupid. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:48pm
The spaghetti Monster can't handle me :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:48pm
The spaghetti Monster can't handle me :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 12:59pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:44am:
to be fair, non-swinging voters are voting because their party of choice generally expresses their personal political ideology and that is a reasonable thing. What is NOT reasonable however is for this preference to become absolute above all other considerations. political ideology must not be our first or only consideration in who we vote for and in general I think Australians get that. When pedo Roy moore stood for the senate in alabama it was analagous to a pedo running for a blue ribbon liberal seat in Sydneys North Shore. Moore lost, but only by the smallest of margins. Here, the loss would be enormous. Also, no party here would ever put up someone so tainted. When Pauline Hanson first made her racists comments she was dumped. Labor have done similarly. Australian politics can be partisan and a bit sad at times, but nothing at all like the USA. One of the reasons I support compulsory voting is the US example. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:03pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:04am:
The first amendment of the constitution. IMO Jeff Sessions should arrest these heads of social media and those in the MSM who are actively engaged in plotting the overthrow of the President. That is sedition! Conspiracy! The majority of Americans now support Trump. Despite all the negative press. His approval rating among blacks and Hispanics has doubled. Clearly the media is now working against the interests of the people. They are the enemy! |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:47pm Richdude wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 3:03pm:
No they don't. As of today, in the most generous poll, only 47% of likely U.S. voters approve of President Trump’s job performance. That's not even the majority of voters, let alone the majority of Americans. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:06pm
I for one have never claimed that Trump is a Nazi.
For one, Nazis were efficient and capable of some amazing engineering and technical feats. AS well as basic intelligence. No for me Trump is the American version of the African tinpot nutcase dictator. Idi Trump anyone? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:10pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
Not a bad comparison. "Amin's rule was characterized by: "rampant human rights abuses, political repression, ethnic persecution, extrajudicial killings, nepotism, corruption, and gross economic mismanagement." Not bad at all :o |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:13pm
For instance I read a story about Idi Amin that to get back businesses he kicked out all the Asian communities in Uganda running those businesses. ONly problem was that there was then no expertise to run those businesses so they collapsed overnight.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by longweekend58 on Aug 9th, 2018 at 5:41pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
thats the best comparison yet. Idi Amin was a lucky sod but also a dimwitted moron. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:02pm longweekend58 wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 5:41pm:
It's a brilliant comparison. This is describing Amin, but it could just as well be Trump: "rampant human rights abuses, political repression, ethnic persecution, extrajudicial killings, nepotism, corruption, and gross economic mismanagement." |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:24pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 6:02pm:
dow up another 200 today |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:43pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
Lol Just "rampant human rights abuses, political repression, ethnic persecution, extrajudicial killings, nepotism, and corruption". My mistake ;D |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Karnal on Aug 9th, 2018 at 9:31pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 8:24pm:
Strange. It's just gone back down by 220. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated? |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:23pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:03am:
Good for you! Just need to straighten out that brain of yours as well. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Karnal on Aug 9th, 2018 at 10:34pm
We all do, Rich, we all do.
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by mortdooley on Aug 9th, 2018 at 11:02pm No one makes you listen to him. You should want him to keep talking, he does no favors for the Americans. Everyone will tune out a screaming, ranting nut job and he has the talent of a Maxine Waters or Rachel Madcow! At least we see that his program is just a clown show while some of you still support some of the most "off the wall" fruitcakes on the Left! |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:28am
if he is a bit of a nutter and a conspiracy theorist, then why would you drive him underground.
thats usually just a very very bad idea. now the authorities dont know what is going on and he will encite some Tim Mcveigh type character. expedient but foolish |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Richdude on Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:43am aquascoot wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:28am:
Yes! Alex Jones gets it wrong often but then so does the mainstream media. The difference when we have opposing opinions we then have a choice of who or what to believe. Its obvious the MSM has many outlets but only 1 voice. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by aquascoot on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:09am Richdude wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 6:43am:
the left like socialism socialism is a belief system based on laziness. the left SHOULD be studying the ideology of the right the left should know every argument from the right and be able to produce a counter arguement. but that would require WORK and the left dont like work. so they would rather just scald anyone who doesnt share their belief system and close down debate. socialism. an ideology you can learn in 20 minutes and then you never have to think again. perfect for the gwegs, the longies, the bojacks, the AiA's. all you need to remember is that trump is an alledged pedophile and that anyone who supports him is a moron and then copy and post that to every counter arguement. and youre done. you didnt learn anything you contracted as a human being but at least you got out of some work your CFMEU brethren would be proud |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:45pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 9th, 2018 at 4:06pm:
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Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 10th, 2018 at 12:47pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:09am:
Aqua believes free-markets actually exist! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:11pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:09am:
I'm a social capitalist. Pure capitalism sucks, but so does pure socialism. You need capitalism with government control. |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:15pm aquascoot wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 7:09am:
I knew you'd come up with a decent post one day. Well done [smiley=thumbsup.gif] |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:40pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
aka mixed markets :D :D :D :D :D :D AKA COGENERATION....... :o |
Title: Re: Apple, YouTube and Facebook BAN Infowars Post by AnotherJourneyByTrain on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:40pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 10th, 2018 at 2:11pm:
aka mixed markets :D :D :D :D :D :D AKA COGENERATION....... :o |
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