Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018

Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars

What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers?

This is disgusting!

red baron wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 6:26pm:

Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting!

It seems to be the figure that stops the recalcitrant ones from turning on us.

red baron wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 6:26pm:

Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting!

This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too.

For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit.

http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports

now for Christ's sake, shutup.

crocodile wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 11:33pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup.

Red Baron is as dumb as a box of rocks.

crocodile wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 11:33pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup.

yes. Its an investment.

rhino wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 12:13am:

crocodile wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:33pm: red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup. yes. Its an investment.

Moreover it buys influence, an ambassador hinting that government might need to rethink its aid budget carries a big carrot.

And with China in our region, time to ramp up soft power and aid.

rhino wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 12:13am:

crocodile wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:33pm: red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup. yes. Its an investment.

Call it an investment, lets call it a stand off, or perhaps an agreement, I don't trust them, they are recalcitrant.

I think you are confused with the Malaysians, I can remember Keating calling Mahatir recalcitrant and he got butthurt about it.

Australia's Foreign Aid Indonesia - a sick joke

Indonesia to Buy Russian Fighter Jets

JAKARTA, INDONESIA —
Indonesia will buy 11 Sukhoi fighter jets worth $1.14 billion from Russia in exchange for cash and Indonesian commodities, two Cabinet ministers said Tuesday.

https://www.voanews.com/a/indonesia-buy-russian-fighter-jets/3995456.html

Our foreign aid to Indonesia is well spent ::)

Crocodile you're the type of person who tells you taxation is good for you

For want of a better word you belong to a category known as 'truth benders'

This is a wave of political correctness sweeping not only this Country but the world

George Orwell would truly be proud of you as you 'Milo Mind Bend' the truth

Here is the bottom line

Indonesia does not need Foreign Aid from us, we borrow the bloody money anyway from China

A Country that can afford to spend nearly 8 thousand millions on Defence doesn't need help from anyone

salad in wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 8:54am:

Australia's Foreign Aid Indonesia - a sick joke Indonesia to Buy Russian Fighter Jets JAKARTA, INDONESIA — Indonesia will buy 11 Sukhoi fighter jets worth $1.14 billion from Russia in exchange for cash and Indonesian commodities, two Cabinet ministers said Tuesday. https://www.voanews.com/a/indonesia-buy-russian-fighter-jets/3995456.html Our foreign aid to Indonesia is well spent ::)

Least the Russian planes are flying  :D

red baron wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 9:10am:

Crocodile you're the type of person who tells you taxation is good for you For want of a better word you belong to a category known as 'truth benders' This is a wave of political correctness sweeping not only this Country but the world George Orwell would truly be proud of you as you 'Milo Mind Bend' the truth Here is the bottom line Indonesia does not need Foreign Aid from us, we borrow the bloody money anyway from China A Country that can afford to spend nearly 8 thousand millions on Defence doesn't need help from anyone

I've never said tax is good for you. True to form you've plucked that one straight of your arse.

As for your bottom line you still don't get it. It is irrelevant whether the Indonesians need foreign aid or not. They have coin and a ready market. We turn a handy profit from the venture.

Secondly, we do not borrow money from China. Deficits are funded by the issue of Australian government bonds in native currency.

You are the kind of misinformed fool who by their own ignorance allows the likes of Turnbull, Shorten and company to garner support for populist policies with questionable economic benefit. Go away.

Taxation is good for you, on  the basis its spent on stuff that benefits you.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Taxation is good for you, on  the basis its spent on stuff that benefits you.

Without taxation society as we know it would not exist. More than likely, cannibalism and feudalism would prevail.

Australia's military budget is 5x Indonesia's military budget.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 1:06pm:

Taxation is good for you, on  the basis its spent on stuff that benefits you.

That's the theory. Now what about the practice.

crocodile wrote on Aug 16^th, 2018 at 1:30pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 16th, 2018 at 1:06pm: Taxation is good for you, on  the basis its spent on stuff that benefits you. That's the theory. Now what about the practice.

"Practice makes perfect".

Bottom line...that Foreign Aid should be taken from Indonesia and given to our Farmers

If they can afford 8,000 million for their defence they can afford to fix their own backyard

red baron wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 8:56am:

Bottom line...that Foreign Aid should be taken from Indonesia and given to our Farmers If they can afford 8,000 million for their defence they can afford to fix their own backyard

Take it from private health care subsidies

Stop the aid!!!

Start the boats!!!

End the turn backs!!

Baron thinks retaliation is a one way street and we can bully our neighbors to accept anything we do without question???

::) ::) ::)

Its time wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 9:04am:

red baron wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 8:56am: Bottom line...that Foreign Aid should be taken from Indonesia and given to our Farmers If they can afford 8,000 million for their defence they can afford to fix their own backyard Take it from private health care subsidies

And private religious school subsidies

Spot

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 9:12am:

Stop the aid!!! Start the boats!!! End the turn backs!! Baron thinks retaliation is a one way street and we can bully our neighbors to accept anything we do without question??? ::) ::) ::)

The ol' Baron is bordering on dementia. It has already been explained enough times. We receive a 710% return on our aid budget in exports alone. A large chunk of these in agriculture. Baron wants to cut the farmers' sales and replace them with $20 notes from the tax payer. Any more bright ideas.

Russia stopped the boats in one hit.

The first refugee boat came into Russian waters

They warned it twice and were ignored

The third time, they blew it out of the water.

No more reffos

We should consider this as a solution.

After all, the DEATH of one boatload of invaders will save the lives of all the ones planning to come , saving hundreds of lives.

And saving Australia from the influx of parasites.

Uhhh Valkie...the boats have stopped coming since the Navy got involved and that was without the killing the Russians resorted to

Valkie, I call you out for lying. You pathetic wretch.


Valkie wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 5:19pm:

Russia stopped the boats in one hit. The first refugee boat came into Russian waters They warned it twice and were ignored The third time, they blew it out of the water. No more reffos We should consider this as a solution. After all, the DEATH of one boatload of invaders will save the lives of all the ones planning to come , saving hundreds of lives. And saving Australia from the influx of parasites.

Unforgiven wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 7:06pm:

Valkie, I call you out for lying. You pathetic wretch. Valkie wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 5:19pm: Russia stopped the boats in one hit. The first refugee boat came into Russian waters They warned it twice and were ignored The third time, they blew it out of the water. No more reffos We should consider this as a solution. After all, the DEATH of one boatload of invaders will save the lives of all the ones planning to come , saving hundreds of lives. And saving Australia from the influx of parasites.

Like anything you say means anything to me?

I consider you opinion exactly the same way that I consider a cockroaches opinion as I step on it.

I fart in your general direction.........troll sock🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Most of us will remember when the Indonesian general started spouting fanatical Islamic doctrine about a year ago. That should have been enough to stop funding that government's programs. Well, its getting worse folks. president Joko has chosen a Muzlim fanatic for vice president. This is the muzlim witch doctor that had the opposition leader locked up for . . . blasphemy. No, the problem with Islam is not improving, its getting worse. Indonesia is one political step away from having an Ayatollah.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-18/joko-widodo-picks-a-hardline-muslim-cleric-as-his-running-mate/10117820

crocodile wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 10:24am:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 9:12am: Stop the aid!!! Start the boats!!! End the turn backs!! Baron thinks retaliation is a one way street and we can bully our neighbors to accept anything we do without question??? ::) ::) ::) The ol' Baron is bordering on dementia. It has already been explained enough times. We receive a 710% return on our aid budget in exports alone. A large chunk of these in agriculture. Baron wants to cut the farmers' sales and replace them with $20 notes from the tax payer. Any more bright ideas.

Welcome back Croc,  thought you had enough of our frothy mouthed insanity  ;D

issuevoter wrote on Aug 18^th, 2018 at 9:01am:

Most of us will remember when the Indonesian general started spouting fanatical Islamic doctrine about a year ago. That should have been enough to stop funding that government's programs. Well, its getting worse folks. president Joko has chosen a Muzlim fanatic for vice president. This is the muzlim witch doctor that had the opposition leader locked up for . . . blasphemy. No, the problem with Islam is not improving, its getting worse. Indonesia is one political step away from having an Ayatollah. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-08-18/joko-widodo-picks-a-hardline-muslim-cleric-as-his-running-mate/10117820

Indonesia - 200 million crazy Muslims living only a canoe ride away from us.

crocodile wrote on Aug 15^th, 2018 at 11:33pm:

red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup.

Would we not be making those exports anyway?

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2018 at 10:33am:

crocodile wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:33pm: red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup. Would we not be making those exports anyway?

This is a political world of Trumpism now FD....Trade retaliation is the first resort to get someone's attention???

:-? :-? :-?

Valkie wrote on Aug 17^th, 2018 at 5:19pm:

Russia stopped the boats in one hit. The first refugee boat came into Russian waters They warned it twice and were ignored The third time, they blew it out of the water. No more reffos We should consider this as a solution. After all, the DEATH of one boatload of invaders will save the lives of all the ones planning to come , saving hundreds of lives. And saving Australia from the influx of parasites.

https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/Bvga_JcRpF_brv5grVk2AcfRucU=/950x534/filters:quality(90)/2016%2F01%2F22%2F31%2F506214498.46cb4.jpg

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 18^th, 2018 at 12:36pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 5:19pm: Russia stopped the boats in one hit. The first refugee boat came into Russian waters They warned it twice and were ignored The third time, they blew it out of the water. No more reffos We should consider this as a solution. After all, the DEATH of one boatload of invaders will save the lives of all the ones planning to come , saving hundreds of lives. And saving Australia from the influx of parasites. https://i.amz.mshcdn.com/Bvga_JcRpF_brv5grVk2AcfRucU=/950x534/filters:quality(90)/2016%2F01%2F22%2F31%2F506214498.46cb4.jpg

https://idsb.tmgrup.com.tr/2015/11/27/HaberDetay/1448611352615.jpg

freediver wrote on Aug 18^th, 2018 at 10:33am:

crocodile wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 11:33pm: red baron wrote on Aug 15th, 2018 at 6:26pm: Australia is giving Indonesia $310 million in Foreign Aid for 2018 Indonesia's Defence Budget for 2018-2019 is 7900 million US Dollars What the hell is Australia doing giving this money when it could go to our own Farmers? This is disgusting! This is about the third whinge you've had on this topic. You are a profoundly ignorant boofhead. You're in good company though. Most of this board is too. For every dollar spent on foreign aid we earn $7.10 in exports. Much of it agricultural exports. We actually make a profit. http://www.anu.edu.au/news/all-news/aid-study-shows-every-1-spent-returns-710-in-exports now for Christ's sake, shutup. Would we not be making those exports anyway?

Not according to the analysis.

http://devpolicy.org/publications/discussion_papers/DP62_How-does-foreign-aid-impact-Australian-exports.pdf

It is worth a read. There is a fair bit of maths on display including a couple of PDEs, but at least they provide the solutions. The data sets show a consistent relationship between the foreign aid targets and the qty of exports to each target. Improving the economic lives of the recipients has a larger impact on them then it would have on us due to the large disparity in purchasing power. Of course, with new found improvements to their bottom line they have more disposable income to spend.

Its time wrote on Aug 18^th, 2018 at 9:11am:

crocodile wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 10:24am: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 9:12am: Stop the aid!!! Start the boats!!! End the turn backs!! Baron thinks retaliation is a one way street and we can bully our neighbors to accept anything we do without question??? ::) ::) ::) The ol' Baron is bordering on dementia. It has already been explained enough times. We receive a 710% return on our aid budget in exports alone. A large chunk of these in agriculture. Baron wants to cut the farmers' sales and replace them with $20 notes from the tax payer. Any more bright ideas. Welcome back Croc,  thought you had enough of our frothy mouthed insanity  ;D

You are correct. The place is a shithole of uninformed dribble. This thread demonstrates that fact with clarity.

crocodile wrote on Aug 18^th, 2018 at 2:42pm:

Its time wrote on Aug 18th, 2018 at 9:11am: crocodile wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 10:24am: philperth2010 wrote on Aug 17th, 2018 at 9:12am: Stop the aid!!! Start the boats!!! End the turn backs!! Baron thinks retaliation is a one way street and we can bully our neighbors to accept anything we do without question??? ::) ::) ::) The ol' Baron is bordering on dementia. It has already been explained enough times. We receive a 710% return on our aid budget in exports alone. A large chunk of these in agriculture. Baron wants to cut the farmers' sales and replace them with $20 notes from the tax payer. Any more bright ideas. Welcome back Croc,  thought you had enough of our frothy mouthed insanity  ;D You are correct. The place is a shithole of uninformed dribble. This thread demonstrates that fact with clarity.

;D ;D

Sure is crocodile incidentally when did you crawl out of the swamp? ;D

red baron wrote on Aug 19^th, 2018 at 9:04am:

Sure is crocodile incidentally when did you crawl out of the swamp? ;D

Is that the best you've got. I don't take it too seriously. Your argument has been shown to be pure ignorance and you have no answer for it.