Is it some kind of excuse word, are all cultures equal, do values mean anything.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 8:07pm:

Is it some kind of excuse word, are all cultures equal, do values mean anything.

no

yes to their own culture of course- its all they know

yes

Only inferior culture, Matty. Not all cultures are the same. Correlation not causation.

They're tinted.

Only if it's a predominantly white one..... all other cultures are sacred..... and don't forget, grasshoppers, that respect is owed to those from those cultures, even when they do not reciprocate.

Respect is a one way word... and you should all know that...

Still waiting to hear what is actually involved in the coons 'doing things their way', and what 'respect for women' involves, and what 'respect for other cultures/religions' involves.....

It seems to those kinds that 'respect' means letting them do whatever they want without even a hint of criticism.... or they'll beat you up, burn down your nation, or wreck your home and life.....

You've got to respect that.... or else!

No wonder there's a civil war pending.....

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:14am:

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot

um,


the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system.

i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;)

Yeah blacks don't get pissed in this country.... ;D ;D ;D

For those that think white Australia has no culture....how about you pack your shite and farq off to a country that isn't full of pissheads. My bet is you won't. You can't. White Australian culture made it to addictive to live here and gave you a level of freedom you cannot leave. You're nothing but weak carnts sponging off the very people who made this country what it is.  ;)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:14am:

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot

What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc?

aquascoot wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:18am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;)

Thats not culture

Spot

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc?

Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:57am:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot

It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies.

Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:14am:

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot

And you're a part of the whole problem.  ::)

Another self loather.

And speaking of getting pissed ... obviously you haven't seen much of current indigenous culture except all the homoginised BS you might see on SBS, ABC or NITV.

Grappler is right

To be fair, I think part of the problem of aboriginal alcoholism is that it is not part of their culture.

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 22^nd, 2018 at 11:55pm:

Only inferior culture, Matty. Not all cultures are the same. Correlation not causation. They're tinted.

Why do you always post like an idiot TROLL...
There is nothing funny about what you post...  just stupidity. ::)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:14am:

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot

Really?
Do you walk around blind and deaf?
How many times must i post stuff on this for people like you.
Google Convict Creations and have a read there for starters.  (even though it seems to have been watered down recently) ::)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot

YOU will need to define what YOU think culture is then Spot so someone can answer you in a way YOU can understand.

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 8:39am:

To be fair, I think part of the problem of aboriginal alcoholism is that it is not part of their culture.

But wait.......
Untill we unearth all of their well documented history pages on rocks around the country......like the guide to correct farming that was found the other week, it may yet still be part of their culture.
A rock painting of a large group in a river bed, sucking on what is now known as the "first" flagon made from the kangaroo pouch with the joey embreo soaked in tamerine wine, so mexico looses the worm in the mezcal tradition cause coons had it first. Also in the painting you will see mary giving kevin a floggin while malcom is raping tracy as kim is trying to knock him out with a club.
Fine paintings that may well just change history....yet again!

At its base, Christianity is not a white religion.  It originates from the middle East, it has its roots in the older Jewish religion.  The Roman empire adopted its early form and spread to Western Europe.   At that time until Britian, Angolo saxons and many other European groups were considered as pagans. 

We are pagen, aren't we?
Chrismas.
Easter.
Birthdays.

Etc etc. All celibrated in this country for quite a while.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:18am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;)

They're all different cultures, Aquascoot. The Italian and French renaissances, the French and Prussian Enlightenments, the British and Prussian Scientific Revolutions, the French, British and Russian novels, architecture - Baroque and Napoleonic neo-classical, Bauhaus, etc, etc, etc. Plus, you left out the influence of China and Arabia through the spice trade.

An easy mistake to make, dear. They're tinted.

aquascoot wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:18am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7tvauOJMHo

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:57am:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot

Tell that to the Islamites raving in the streets about chopping heads off Infidels etc... and that's here! Look at what they do there!!

Captain Caveman wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 11:58am:

We are pagen, aren't we? Chrismas. Easter. Birthdays. Etc etc. All celibrated in this country for quite a while.

We most certainly are not pagan, Captain. We're a Christian country.

That makes us Middle Eastern, ja?

skin colour init? eh karmel

rhino wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 1:20pm:

skin colour init? eh karmel

That depends on the colour, dear, tinted or tanned. There's inferior culture and there's superior culture.

Correlation not causation, innit.

Culture?

The 'Red' Western (Celtic) Europeans 'fled' to North America to be in 'Heaven'.

The 'White' Eastern (Slavic) Europeans were 'exiled' to Sahul (Australia) to be in 'Hell'.

The 'Grey' Southern (Latin) Europeans said from their idyllic island resorts of Oceania that "History was a lie and they were never in Europe to begin with!"

While the 'Blue' Northern (Scandinavian) Europeans had to clean up the mess in Europe after the Party had finished, a Party that they were never invited to.


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 8:39am:

To be fair, I think part of the problem of aboriginal alcoholism is that it is not part of their culture.

Whilst that maybe so FD but they've been at it for a long time now .....

When doing time in jail becomes part of rites of passage for young aboriginal men you have to ask the same question of them that some of the self loathers say about non aboriginal australian culture  ......

you call that culture? or what culture? ... getting pissed, bashing your wife, abusing your kids, etc etc etc.

Seems to me they have a pretty fair footing in that dept. as well.

Grendel wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 8:52am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot YOU will need to define what YOU think culture is then Spot so someone can answer you in a way YOU can understand.

I did

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:08pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot YOU will need to define what YOU think culture is then Spot so someone can answer you in a way YOU can understand. I did Spot

No ... you didn't.

---

Some cultures are dirty.

I think Westminster  broadly speaking 

culture is society.. what it will and will not endure...

and its usually decided by our law makers....

I do hope they are GOOD law makers..

the rabble we have now ruining this country..

is not the way I wish aussie culture to go.....

lets all spit the dummy when we cant get our own way..


nope not for me!

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:08pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot YOU will need to define what YOU think culture is then Spot so someone can answer you in a way YOU can understand. I did Spot

NO YOU DIDN'T...  EITHER DO, OR STOP WASTING EVERYONE'S TIME.
Simply saying "That's not culture" does not define what is.
BTW when did culture become coloured? ::)

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 11:37am:

At its base, Christianity is not a white religion.  It originates from the middle East, it has its roots in the older Jewish religion.  The Roman empire adopted its early form and spread to Western Europe.   At that time until Britian, Angolo saxons and many other European groups were considered as pagans.

The Muslims pretty much wiped out Judaism, Christianity and Paganism from western civilisation, except for Europe. Prior to the discovery of the Americas, it occupied a fairly small corner of the world, in what had previously been the fringe the civilisation.


Gnads wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 2:29pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:39am: To be fair, I think part of the problem of aboriginal alcoholism is that it is not part of their culture. Whilst that maybe so FD but they've been at it for a long time now ..... When doing time in jail becomes part of rites of passage for young aboriginal men you have to ask the same question of them that some of the self loathers say about non aboriginal australian culture  ...... you call that culture? or what culture? ... getting pissed, bashing your wife, abusing your kids, etc etc etc. Seems to me they have a pretty fair footing in that dept. as well.

Would you say that democracy is aboriginal culture?

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:59pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:37am: At its base, Christianity is not a white religion.  It originates from the middle East, it has its roots in the older Jewish religion.  The Roman empire adopted its early form and spread to Western Europe.   At that time until Britian, Angolo saxons and many other European groups were considered as pagans.  The Muslims pretty much wiped out Judaism, Christianity and Paganism from western civilisation, except for Europe. Prior to the discovery of the Americas, it occupied a fairly small corner of the world, in what had previously been the fringe the civilisation. Gnads wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 2:29pm: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:39am: To be fair, I think part of the problem of aboriginal alcoholism is that it is not part of their culture. Whilst that maybe so FD but they've been at it for a long time now ..... When doing time in jail becomes part of rites of passage for young aboriginal men you have to ask the same question of them that some of the self loathers say about non aboriginal australian culture  ...... you call that culture? or what culture? ... getting pissed, bashing your wife, abusing your kids, etc etc etc. Seems to me they have a pretty fair footing in that dept. as well. Would you say that democracy is aboriginal culture?

No

They have been 'doing' democracy for a long time also.

Might point is, at some point you have to say they abandoned their culture and adopted ours. Alcohol, democracy, human rights, schools, Christianity, nuclear families etc. You can't just pick the worst habits they acquired from as and call that aboriginal culture, but deny them all the good bits.

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:06pm:

They have been 'doing' democracy for a long time also. Might point is, at some point you have to say they abandoned their culture and adopted ours. Alcohol, democracy, human rights, schools, Christianity, nuclear families etc. You can't just pick the worst habits they acquired from as and call that aboriginal culture, but deny them all the good bits.

You think there was no rape, murder, theft, war, kidnapping, etc, etc, etc in Aboriginal life before British settlement?

They existed in every culture.

What is your point?

Gnads wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 2:29pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:39am: To be fair, I think part of the problem of aboriginal alcoholism is that it is not part of their culture. Whilst that maybe so FD but they've been at it for a long time now ..... When doing time in jail becomes part of rites of passage for young aboriginal men you have to ask the same question of them that some of the self loathers say about non aboriginal australian culture  ...... you call that culture? or what culture? ... getting pissed, bashing your wife, abusing your kids, etc etc etc. Seems to me they have a pretty fair footing in that dept. as well.

Inferior culture.

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:22pm:

They existed in every culture. What is your point?

You tell Grendel, FD. Some of his best friends are dirty Boongs.

At some point you have to say they abandoned their culture and adopted ours. Alcohol, democracy, human rights, schools, Christianity, nuclear families etc.

Superior culture, innit.

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:59pm:

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:37am: At its base, Christianity is not a white religion.  It originates from the middle East, it has its roots in the older Jewish religion.  The Roman empire adopted its early form and spread to Western Europe.   At that time until Britian, Angolo saxons and many other European groups were considered as pagans.  The Muslims pretty much wiped out Judaism, Christianity and Paganism from western civilisation, except for Europe. Prior to the discovery of the Americas, it occupied a fairly small corner of the world, in what had previously been the fringe the civilisation.

I argue that Islam did not wipe out Christianity and Judaism just by themselves.  The Eastern Roman Empire have alot to blame themselves.  From corruption, poor economic management, to endless war and conflict with Persians, that gave the Islam both physical and political space to exist.  That and in truth, Mohamed was a leader with great abilities both militarily and politically. 

After the rise of Islam in the East.  Out in the West, Christianity wasnt much better either as Europe descend into the Dark ages. 

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:14am:

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot

Having half your face perpetually blown off, you obviously do not recall 'European civilisation' as a category.  I doubt you would have the same difficulty recalling 'Aboriginal' or Indian' or Chinese' civilisation, let alone 'Islamic' civilisation. All those you readily know. Your own? That you will always repudiate, always be confounded about (pretending to be, that is).


You, like Bwian, Paki, gandalf, Arseie et al,  always start from a premise of bad faith and proceed from there.

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 9:12pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot Having half your face perpetually blown off, you obviously do not recall 'European civilisation' as a category.  I doubt you would have the same difficulty recalling 'Aboriginal' or Indian' or Chinese' civilisation, let alone 'Islamic' civilisation. All those you readily know. Your own? That you will always repudiate, always be confounded about (pretending to be, that is). You, like Bwian, Paki, gandalf, Arseie et al,  always start from a premise of bad faith and proceed from there.

I say, old boy, what do you mean by Paki?

Is that tinted or tanned?

Cheers.

I mean you, Paki.

You are a Muslim paki convert.

Mohommedism was created to get back what Europe 'stole' from the Middle-east and the original Religion of Judaism.

;)

So watch out France, Islam is coming to strip you of your 'Christianity'  :P 
Germany has already 'broken' its Christian Cross (Swaztika).
Eventually even Italy will have to renounce its 'Christianity' via its future genocide upon the moslems and its defence against Israel.
...then, last of all will come the British 'Cross' (Union Jack)  ;) Now that will be a big one indeed.

tickleandrose wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 8:46pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:59pm: tickleandrose wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:37am: At its base, Christianity is not a white religion.  It originates from the middle East, it has its roots in the older Jewish religion.  The Roman empire adopted its early form and spread to Western Europe.   At that time until Britian, Angolo saxons and many other European groups were considered as pagans.  The Muslims pretty much wiped out Judaism, Christianity and Paganism from western civilisation, except for Europe. Prior to the discovery of the Americas, it occupied a fairly small corner of the world, in what had previously been the fringe the civilisation. I argue that Islam did not wipe out Christianity and Judaism just by themselves.  The Eastern Roman Empire have alot to blame themselves.  From corruption, poor economic management, to endless war and conflict with Persians, that gave the Islam both physical and political space to exist.  That and in truth, Mohamed was a leader with great abilities both militarily and politically.  After the rise of Islam in the East.  Out in the West, Christianity wasnt much better either as Europe descend into the Dark ages.

Slavery and then serfdom came to an end in Europe during the "dark ages".

Rome was doomed the day Caesar became dictator for life.

Jasin wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Mohommedism was created to get back what Europe 'stole' from the Middle-east and the original Religion of Judaism. ;) So watch out France, Islam is coming to strip you of your 'Christianity'  :P  Germany has already 'broken' its Christian Cross (Swaztika). Eventually even Italy will have to renounce its 'Christianity' via its future genocide upon the moslems and its defence against Israel. ...then, last of all will come the British 'Cross' (Union Jack)  ;) Now that will be a big one indeed.

I'm making an exception. When I read these posts of yours Jasin, all I can do is shake my head and close the tab(browser). It takes all kinds. Not sure if I want to hear the answer but I'll give it a go. Do you honestly believe the crap you sprout like Photon does or are you just having fun and playing "100 monkeys dancing on my keyboard"?

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 10:07pm: Mohommedism was created to get back what Europe 'stole' from the Middle-east and the original Religion of Judaism. ;) So watch out France, Islam is coming to strip you of your 'Christianity'  :P  Germany has already 'broken' its Christian Cross (Swaztika). Eventually even Italy will have to renounce its 'Christianity' via its future genocide upon the moslems and its defence against Israel. ...then, last of all will come the British 'Cross' (Union Jack)  ;) Now that will be a big one indeed. I'm making an exception. When I read these posts of yours Jasin, all I can do is shake my head and close the tab(browser). It takes all kinds. Not sure if I want to hear the answer but I'll give it a go. Do you honestly believe the crap you sprout like Photon does or are you just having fun and playing "100 monkeys dancing on my keyboard"?

That's because Setanta - you know I'm an exception to the rule. You're a Hippy and I'm a Feral.  ;)

Jasin wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 10:23pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 10:13pm: Jasin wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 10:07pm: Mohommedism was created to get back what Europe 'stole' from the Middle-east and the original Religion of Judaism. ;) So watch out France, Islam is coming to strip you of your 'Christianity'  :P  Germany has already 'broken' its Christian Cross (Swaztika). Eventually even Italy will have to renounce its 'Christianity' via its future genocide upon the moslems and its defence against Israel. ...then, last of all will come the British 'Cross' (Union Jack)  ;) Now that will be a big one indeed. I'm making an exception. When I read these posts of yours Jasin, all I can do is shake my head and close the tab(browser). It takes all kinds. Not sure if I want to hear the answer but I'll give it a go. Do you honestly believe the crap you sprout like Photon does or are you just having fun and playing "100 monkeys dancing on my keyboard"? That's because Setanta - you know I'm an exception to the rule. You're a Hippy and I'm a Feral.  ;)

But I'm not a hippy. :-/ Do I take that response as a refusal to answer my Q?

To 'clarify' for Set's confusion and inability to understand 'the Big Picture'.
The future of the world is 'predictable' and is based on past events.
It's like a mechanism that 'will' click back into place. Sometimes it takes time, its a 'process' that the whole world has to go through, like it all not. Those who are 'aware' survive and the ignorant die. It's like surfing a wave or being dumped by one.

When Jews kill one of their own (Jesus),
sure enough, when the world changes (and North America comes onto the scene to 'steal' the attention) - then along comes a Jew (Hitler) to kill his own people.

The world changes, things change.
If you can't change with it then you too are caught in the Veils of Azlaroc  ;) :D ;D

Ask yourself the 'question' Set.

'WHY' did the Germans do to the Jews what they did?
There must be an 'original' reason?
Once you come to 'understand' why things are happening in the world, then you will indeed 'understand' it all.

Ever wonder why Nostrodamus could never 'predict' anything for the Southern Hemisphere?  :-?
Hmmm???

Frank wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 9:50pm:

I mean you, Paki. You are a Muslim paki convert.

Yes, but is one:

A) Tinted; or

B) Tanned?

Please select one, old boy.

OK, I get it Jasin, just close the tab, monkeys are a dancin'. You could have just said so.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 11:00pm:

OK, I get it Jasin, just close the tab, monkeys are a dancin'. You could have just said so.

Well, its not my fault you can only see 'the picture' via your phone and not the bigger version on the cinema screen with the rest of us.  ::)

You're an 'old' cliché.

Jasin wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 11:07pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 11:00pm: OK, I get it Jasin, just close the tab, monkeys are a dancin'. You could have just said so. Well, its not my fault you can only see 'the picture' via your phone and not the bigger version on the cinema screen with the rest of us.  ::) You're an 'old' cliché.

The rest of us? Hmm, who are the rest of yourselves or do you propose to speak for others? Sorry, my phone has no credit... :(

I'm assured no-one was killed int the making of this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKCHgwzMjhw

It's like watching deer run from the hunter.

Gnads wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:26pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:08pm: Grendel wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot YOU will need to define what YOU think culture is then Spot so someone can answer you in a way YOU can understand. I did Spot No ... you didn't.

I dont know how to quote it but it was reply 9

Spot

What a surprise the thread is about islam again

Spot

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:06pm:

They have been 'doing' democracy for a long time also. Might point is, at some point you have to say they abandoned their culture and adopted ours. Alcohol, democracy, human rights, schools, Christianity, nuclear families etc. You can't just pick the worst habits they acquired from as and call that aboriginal culture, but deny them all the good bits.

Actually FD that's not what I've done .... I've mere mentioned that "their" so called culture is not all wonderful & organic as it gets made out to be ... and my response was to the constant claim by the likes of Spot & others ...

that outside the ancient Aboriginal culture ....

non aboriginal anglo/european descent australians
have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies".

freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:22pm:

They existed in every culture. What is your point?

that is my point what was yours....  ?

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 6:14am:

What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot

I think we can put that down to the Irish
Today's "Australian culture" had its foundations built on the Irish, English and Scottish
The Germans put in their contribution with our appreciation of wine and beer
Th Italians brought us fine food - along with the Greeks and other European cultures
Asian immigration expanded the boundaries of fine food cuisine - along with colour and festivals
More change can't help but influence us - with growing Middle-Eastern immigration

Australia was built on "multiculturalism" since the arrival of the First Fleet, in 1780

Long may our culture continue to expand

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:15am:

anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies"

This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian

Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018
Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport'
And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta

Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee.

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee.

How many pies did you eat (to preserve your "culture") in the last week, or so ?

I can't remember when I ate one last
I might have an iced coffee, occasionally, over the Summer
But I have 3 double shot espressos - from the machine, in my kitchen - every morning

Australian culture (via Westernisation)?

Well, its politically still ruled and sanctioned (supported) by the United Kingdom and 'populated' by the United States.

Afterall, the Governor-General serves the UK & the Prime Ministers serve the USA (the UK serves the USA like a good little 'colony' in Europe  ;D) ...both positions 'rule' Australian Politics.

So really. Political Australia is a defaulted false expression of Australian culture. It's a replicant heavily dependent on UK/USA. It is 'chained' like a criminal to the past and has no future here. Even now ...its self destructing even further into becoming 'defunct' here.

There is only 'One' Political region and that's North America.
There can be only 'One'  ;)

The pie with sauce and iced coffee is definitely part of our culture, I would have had thousands by now, we have a young culture with NO BAGGAGE and a very rich one.
A short list: Cricket footy pubs the outback the ocean fishing surfing cars bikes gambling the boomerang work holidays the sickie long weekends and Victoria Bitter.
Bringing in cultures with religion being their only driving force will keep cultures distant.

Considering Women here promote a more 'professional' approach to 'Sport' here in Australia.

The guys are more like losers, grubs, cheats or the codes like NRL are pathetic.

When it comes to the Guys - Australians & South Americans are much the same.

Australia is a 'Pretender' and 'False Prophet' when it comes to Sport.

Sport is not the 'true' culture of Australia.

In fact, its a Media by-product that is more bias to Europe, Asia & Africa ...from its Oceanic base.

...rather than anything Namerican, Samerican, Australian (let alone Middle-East).

Media promotes a 'false' culture of Australia (and America, hence 'Fake News').

The Media only becomes a positive aspect in the New Worlds via the Women, not the men.

Jasin wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:03pm:

Considering Women here promote a more 'professional' approach to 'Sport' here in Australia. The guys are more like losers, grubs, cheats or the codes like NRL are pathetic. When it comes to the Guys - Australians & South Americans are much the same. Australia is a 'Pretender' and 'False Prophet' when it comes to Sport. Sport is not the 'true' culture of Australia. In fact, its a Media by-product that is more bias to Europe, Asia & Africa ...from its Oceanic base. ...rather than anything Namerican, Samerican, Australian (let alone Middle-East). Media promotes a 'false' culture of Australia (and America, hence 'Fake News'). The Media only becomes a positive aspect in the New Worlds via the Women, not the men.

Are you saying sport is not instilled in Australian culture!

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 6:03pm:

But I have 3 double shot espressos - from the machine, in my kitchen - every morning

;D ;D ;D

We can tell.

I'm saying that 'Sport' (via Males) that has been instilled by the TV Media, is in a disillusionment that it represents the 'only' essence of 'culture' here.
Considering 'Male Sport' here is less 'professional' that the women, in the eyes of the world.

The 'internet' exists here and so to does 'its' people and they don't really consider 'sport' to be the 'true' Australian 'culture'.

Thankfully the 'real' Australia is emerging and the 'Pretender' like Sporting Australia is falling by the wayside.

Jasin wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:28pm:

I'm saying that 'Sport' (via Males) that has been instilled by the TV Media, is in a disillusionment that it represents the 'only' essence of 'culture' here. Considering 'Male Sport' here is less 'professional' that the women, in the eyes of the world. The 'internet' exists here and so to does 'its' people and they don't really consider 'sport' to be the 'true' Australian 'culture'. Thankfully the 'real' Australia is emerging and the 'Pretender' like Sporting Australia is falling by the wayside.

what would you say is our true culture Jasin?

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 5:53pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta

You tell Spot & a couple of others that.

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 5:53pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta

Avoidance of SPORT....  sorry not in your nelly.... most Aussies are still big on sports playing and watching.
Food - Roast lamb and meat pies are still in the top 10 and so is vegemite on toast.
Wine, yes I think that is right these days nationally if not regionally. The top 3 alcoholic drinks in order are Red Wine, Beer, then White Wine.  Non-Alcoholic... Coffee?  Tea? Bonox?  nope....  water is still the most popular drink.

One only has to get out of the inner city every now and then to see that the true nature and culture of Australia is still thriving, for now.
SHUT THE GATES

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee.

Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet.

Grendel wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet.

Its both, and often a matter of survival.

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 5:55pm:

Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee.

And it used to be racist.

Now it's "sustainable".

Grendel wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet.

yes surely our culture must amount to more than a pie and sauce by this time- for intance like it or love it you hear of the US gun culture- but what is the australian culture what are we known or other than a pie and sauce-?

It could be about how we are a nation of friendly ppl/mateship- the fair go etc - for instance- the GBR our beautiful out back- the Steve Irwin would be a big one- he was a great emabassador for australia- like him or not- now we have little Bindi Irwin and her brother Bobs- dont forget and we are now embarking on a new phase in our culture- our young ppl and the wealth of talent they will contribute- the film industary in Australia will be huge in another generation-  Bris-vegas and Hollywood

Agnes wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:12pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. yes surely our culture must amount to more than a pie and sauce by this time- for intance like it or love it you hear of the US gun culture- but what is the australian culture what are we known or other than a pie and sauce-? It could be about how we are a nation fo friendly ppl/mateship- the fair go etc - for instance- the GBR our beautiful out back- the Steve Irwin would be a big one- he was a great emabassador for australia- like him or not- now we have little Bindi Irwin and her brother Bobs

Are you trying to lure Herb back? ;D

maybe subliminally - I miss herb  :'(

Quote:

.......now we have little Bindi Irwin........

Huh?  How bizarre!  She is nothing like little and her cherry is well and truly popped!

https://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/16100049/bindi-and-derek.jpg

Agnes wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

maybe subliminally - I miss herb  :'(

I think the forum is a little poorer without him.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:39pm:

Agnes wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:17pm: maybe subliminally - I miss herb  :'( I think the forum is a little poorer without him.

yes me too

Aussie wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

Quote: .......now we have little Bindi Irwin........ Huh?  How bizarre!  She is nothing like little and her cherry is well and truly popped! https://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/16100049/bindi-and-derek.jpg

I like her hair.

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:50pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:53pm: Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta You tell Spot & a couple of others that.

NOT!!! its beer maybe in inner city melbourne or Sydney- heck even I like beer- and only drink a dry red sometimes

Grendel wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet.

Diet. Religion. Dance. Values. Language. Customs. Beliefs. All part of culture.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

The pie with sauce and iced coffee is definitely part of our culture, I would have had thousands by now, we have a young culture with NO BAGGAGE and a very rich one. A short list: Cricket footy pubs the outback the ocean fishing surfing cars bikes gambling the boomerang work holidays the sickie long weekends and Victoria Bitter.

You seem to be confusing "Australian culture" with "bogan culture"

Aussie wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:24pm:

Quote: .......now we have little Bindi Irwin........ Huh?  How bizarre!  She is nothing like little and her cherry is well and truly popped! https://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/16100049/bindi-and-derek.jpg

horse riding aussie

Agnes wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:24pm: Quote: .......now we have little Bindi Irwin........ Huh?  How bizarre!  She is nothing like little and her cherry is well and truly popped! https://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/16100049/bindi-and-derek.jpg horse riding aussie

Neighhhh! Clip clop, clip clop, slip slap, slip slap. Whoa there cowgirl!

freediver wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:07pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. Diet. Religion. Dance. Values. Language. Customs. Beliefs. All part of culture.

Not correlation?

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:50pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:53pm: Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta You tell Spot & a couple of others that.

So not really a culture that goes back to whenever. More a recent culture. I dont know anyone who drinks wine or eats much pasta btw. Its all beer and footy. Guess the people i know are old school. And pizza - also meat pies! I never really thought about it til now but ugggh.

Spot

Grendel wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 8:21pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet.

Yeah you are right - however if we are talking about white culture it is food really isnt it.

Spot

Johnnie wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 6:55pm:

The pie with sauce and iced coffee is definitely part of our culture, I would have had thousands by now, we have a young culture with NO BAGGAGE and a very rich one. A short list: Cricket footy pubs the outback the ocean fishing surfing cars bikes gambling the boomerang work holidays the sickie long weekends and Victoria Bitter. Bringing in cultures with religion being their only driving force will keep cultures distant.

;D ;D VB 

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spot:


freediver wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 8:05am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy.

Agnes wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:50pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:53pm: Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta You tell Spot & a couple of others that. NOT!!! its beer maybe in inner city melbourne or Sydney- heck even I like beer- and only drink a dry red sometimes

Yes... I don't believe we are all headed into the Chardy & Latte Sippers snoot nose clique as yet.

And I see a lot more women, especially young women who drink beer.

Agnes wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 10:39pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:24pm: Quote: .......now we have little Bindi Irwin........ Huh?  How bizarre!  She is nothing like little and her cherry is well and truly popped! https://cdn.mamamia.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/16100049/bindi-and-derek.jpg horse riding aussie

Yes and here she is with the horse.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/12/18/02/476B0F5900000578-0-image-m-79_1513564740558.jpg

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23^rd, 2018 at 7:54am:

aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot

You are challenging Bwian for the leadership of the mindless and unmoored party.

;D

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 6:24am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. Yeah you are right - however if we are talking about white culture it is food really isnt it. Spot

No.
Are you still having problems working out what your definition of culture is.
BTW culture is not coloured. ::)

Agnes wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 9:51pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:50pm: buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:53pm: Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta You tell Spot & a couple of others that. NOT!!! its beer maybe in inner city melbourne or Sydney- heck even I like beer- and only drink a dry red sometimes

Don't like beer, never liked beer...  BTW I quoted the 2017 stats so yes it is Red wine, beer, then White Wine... for alcoholic beverages. ::) ::) ::)

For Spot and others...


Quote:

culture ˈkʌltʃə NOUN     the arts and other manifestations of human intellectual achievement regarded collectively.     "20th century popular culture"     synonyms: the arts · the humanities · intellectual achievement(s) · [more]     the ideas, customs, and social behaviour of a particular people or society.     "Afro-Caribbean culture" · [more]     synonyms: civilization · society · way of life · lifestyle · customs · [more]

Quote:

Culture is the social behavior and norms found in human societies. Culture is considered a central concept in anthropology, encompassing the range of phenomena that are transmitted through social learning in human societies. Cultural universals are found in all human societies; these include expressive forms like art, music, dance, ritual, religion, and technologies like tool usage, cooking, shelter, and clothing. The concept of material culture covers the physical expressions of culture, such as technology, architecture and art, whereas the immaterial aspects of culture such as principles of social organization, mythology, philosophy, literature, and science comprise the intangible cultural heritage of a society.

oh and btw the roots of the Australian culture go back many thousands of years

I doubt more wine is consumed in Australia than beer.

For those absolutely clueless and here we count Spot and bwian.....

http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/index.htm

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:11pm:

I doubt more wine is consumed in Australia than beer.

Doubt it all you like its a recognised fact and stat these days.

Gnads wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:50pm:

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:53pm: Gnads wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:15am: anglo/european descent Australians have no culture except for "getting on the piss, sport & meat pies" This broad assumption may be reflected in a few clusters in and around your "western suburbs, anywhere" sport stadium locations - but it is no accurate description of the average Australian Australians prefer wine - over beer - in 2018 Most of us have a built in avoidance, of all things 'sport' And a long way from the meat pie - our most popular meal is now pasta You tell Spot & a couple of others that.

These are the "clusters" I referred to

Grendel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:15pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 1:11pm: I doubt more wine is consumed in Australia than beer. Doubt it all you like its a recognised fact and stat these days.

Do you mean white wine, dear?

Please explain.

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:11pm:

I doubt more wine is consumed in Australia than beer.

This is the same error of judgement made by climate change deniers

Their evaluation of Australia (and the rest of the world) is calculated on - and limited to - what goes on in (literally) their own back yard

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 8:50am:

spot: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:05am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy.

Yeah okay that makes sense but this isnt really an xtian nation anymore is it. Nor are the other "white" countries. Rweligion doesnt play as big a part as in the 70s.

Spot

Frank wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 10:10am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot You are challenging Bwian for the leadership of the mindless and unmoored party.

Geez what a well thought out and informative argument

Spot

Grendel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:00pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 6:24am: Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. Yeah you are right - however if we are talking about white culture it is food really isnt it. Spot No. Are you still having problems working out what your definition of culture is. BTW culture is not coloured. ::)

So? I was originally replying to someone that was talking about white culture. Of course i was answering from an aussie perspective. Go back and read the thread.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 8:50am: spot: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:05am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy. Yeah okay that makes sense but this isnt really an xtian nation anymore is it. Nor are the other "white" countries. Rweligion doesnt play as big a part as in the 70s. Spot

According to Harari, other aspects of our culture such as human rights have their roots in religion. As does much of our law.

Grendel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 1:14pm:

For those absolutely clueless and here we count Spot and bwian..... http://www.convictcreations.com/culture/index.htm

Why do you have to try to insult everyone that isnt exactly like you?

Spot

Now this is culture.

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Johnnie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Now this is culture.

Superior culture, innit.

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 4:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 3:59pm: Now this is culture. Superior culture, innit.

Another culture.

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Johnnie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 3:59pm:

Now this is culture.

Superior culture, innit.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 4:10pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:08pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 3:59pm: Now this is culture. Superior culture, innit. Another culture.

Tinted. Isn't it?

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 4:24pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:10pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:08pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 3:59pm: Now this is culture. Superior culture, innit. Another culture. Tinted. Isn't it?

Is tinted a culture?

Johnnie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 4:39pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:24pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:10pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:08pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 3:59pm: Now this is culture. Superior culture, innit. Another culture. Tinted. Isn't it? Is tinted a culture?

But of course. Inferior culture.

Innit.

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 5:08pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:39pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:24pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:10pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:08pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 3:59pm: Now this is culture. Superior culture, innit. Another culture. Tinted. Isn't it? Is tinted a culture? But of course. Inferior culture. Innit.

A tinted culture is good for a dark sourdough

buzzanddidj wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:17pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 1:11pm: I doubt more wine is consumed in Australia than beer. This is the same error of judgement made by climate change deniers Their evaluation of Australia (and the rest of the world) is calculated on - and limited to - what goes on in (literally) their own back yard

I don't drink doofus...

national statistics  argue with them. ::)

perhaps what YOU said YOU should address to yourself eh. ;D

Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 24^th, 2018 at 7:31pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:28pm: I'm saying that 'Sport' (via Males) that has been instilled by the TV Media, is in a disillusionment that it represents the 'only' essence of 'culture' here. Considering 'Male Sport' here is less 'professional' that the women, in the eyes of the world. The 'internet' exists here and so to does 'its' people and they don't really consider 'sport' to be the 'true' Australian 'culture'. Thankfully the 'real' Australia is emerging and the 'Pretender' like Sporting Australia is falling by the wayside. what would you say is our true culture Jasin?

Indeed.

To say there is just 'one' culture (like they think 'Sport' is), is like there is only 'one' State representing Australia as the true Australian State.
It's a ridiculous belief to consider 'Sport' as the ONLY true representation of Australian 'culture'.

I say often that each State of Australia represents the other Regions of the world as ...a representative of 'cultural connection'.
QLD for Namerica (hence the amount of Yanks there)
NSW for Oceania (hence the amount of Kiwi's there)
VIC for Samerica (hence the amount of Chileans there)
SA for Middle-East (hence the amount of 'religious' buildings there)
NT for Asia
WA ...being BIG is divided in two: North = Europe (and is a popular tourism destination with European visitors) and South for Africa (hence a lot of Africans <+Boers> there)
Tassie is special, although mostly 'white', it seems to hold onto a very 'aboriginal' cultural past ironically, considering the genocide of aboriginals there.

So you can see - 'culture' is a varied thing here.

Also add the 'culture' of the past, is different from the future. Which is the more 'truer'?  :-?
Well Aboriginal Males tend to hold onto their past (sometimes bitterly) more so than the females. I would put the Aboriginal females as those who take Aboriginal contribution here, far into the future more successfully than the males, especially the 'bitter' ones.

Obviously the 'culture' of the Country/Rural part of Australia is the more original, than that pumped out by the cities like Sydney & Melbourne (which the Media is more focused upon).
Saying this, the (TV) Media doesn't really have a good grasp on Australia to be honest.
Even with the Namerican Media - it seems more interested and bias to the dealings of all things Asian, European and African more than it does with Australian or Namerican way of life.
The Internet seems more focused on Australia, Namerica though, than the TV Media ...hence why 'Fake News' developed. If the TV Media can't 'make it' here in Aust & USA, then they 'fake it'.

So what would I, in personal opinion, consider as 'uniquely' Australian in 'culture'? Something that 'stands' alone?

...I would guess that our 'unique' place in the world, culturally - comes from a relation to 'water', a sense of 'deep ocean' or a voyage to 'within', down into that deep dark abyss that we all fear to look, but at some stage must and that goes for the whole world 'CURRENTLY'. Until this World looks 'within', regardless of discovering the truth of how 'dark' things have become - we will never progress, let alone make it out into the stars ...ironically.
We designed, built the submersible for James Cameron to go to the very bottom of the HADAL. We have much 'technological' superiority over other regions in regards to 'water'. The World looks to us to lead the way in this, like they look at the USA to lead the way in all things Flight, Astronomy, Space, etc (hence why they have always had the greatest 'Aviation' record).
We are the Mer-people and its our duty to bring the Water of Life to the world.
Oceania is covered in much water, but like Islands and 'Sailors', they just seem to 'skim the surface' like Surfers, rather than actually 'go down' like a Convict sent Down Under like a past sin, future redemption.

There are millions here that still don't/won't partake. That's ok, 'culture' is not meant to be fundamentally 'strict' and 'absolutism'. You can't have 10 half-backs in a Rugby Side. But for Sport, especially with Males, its something of a fading. One only has to look at the USA Music scene, where to - the females are more 'Professional', successful and less self-destructive than the males. I would even say, if Katy Perry continues her ways - she will be GREATER than Elvis (who bugger*d up) ...in the end.

So there you have it.
If Australia is going to get ahead 'culturally', it will be with 'Water'.
Of turning this 'burnt out' continent into an absolute OASIS of lush vegetation and rural progress. The 'Inland Sea' may not be a mirage or myth after all - more like a 'Dream'.

The Namerican Indians would cover themselves with Feathers to be with the 'Sky Spirit' above, then the 'real' America (in the face of the Enlightened World) appeared and drove a Space Shuttle up into the Sky and said "Now this is how to be the Spirit in the Sky!"  ;)
The Aboriginals seemed to have been hampered by their lack of 'water' and the 'real' Australia will kick on, because they take it on in more ways than one.

Well, I hope this sheds some 'more' light on the subject.
But like I said, maybe its our 'culture' to take the 'light' down into the deep dark cold abyss, where the rest of the world fears to go.

re: QLD ...where's all the Yanks? ::)

Gnads wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

re: QLD ...where's all the Yanks? ::)

They're all moving from California which is where you find the most Aussies over there in the USA.

QLD - California (cultural connection)

...hence why I jest that the UK is a 'colony' of the USA, over 'there' in 'EUROPE'.

Jasin wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 6:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 6:11pm: re: QLD ...where's all the Yanks? ::) They're all moving from California which is where you find the most Aussies over there in the USA. QLD - California (cultural connection) ...hence why I jest that the UK is a 'colony' of the USA, over 'there' in 'EUROPE'.

So we swap one for one?

What a load of bs.

I was speaking to a bloke this afternoon originally from my city here ... he has been in the US for 38 years ... it's where he lives now ....

I have noticed no influx of Californians or exodus of QLDers to California.

You definitely are on some good shyte.

Gordon wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 5:11pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 5:08pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:39pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:24pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:10pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 4:08pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 3:59pm: Now this is culture. Superior culture, innit. Another culture. Tinted. Isn't it? Is tinted a culture? But of course. Inferior culture. Innit. A tinted culture is good for a dark sourdough

Stop apologising for these people.

WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

A tinted culture...

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/colored-petri-dish-specimen-15628339.jpg

Grendel wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 7:10pm:

A tinted culture... https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/colored-petri-dish-specimen-15628339.jpg

That's not nice

That culture has 10 times the IQ of any collection of muzzos, Abbos or Somalis

The last few times ive been in sydney i could just see asians. Melbourne was getting that way too.

Spot

freediver wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:40pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:37pm: freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 8:50am: spot: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:05am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy. Yeah okay that makes sense but this isnt really an xtian nation anymore is it. Nor are the other "white" countries. Rweligion doesnt play as big a part as in the 70s. Spot According to Harari, other aspects of our culture such as human rights have their roots in religion. As does much of our law.

I dont know if human rights is a culture. Maybe it is but other cultures have them too - not all thats for sure. Im not really a history buff so dont know where human rights came from but our laws didnt come from religion the way a lot of religious people think. Not even in america. Religion was considered but wasnt the influence. If i have time i might read some harari.

Spot

A few centuries ago Europe was the only 'advanced' civilisation in which slavery had largely come to an end. Even serfdom in western Europe.

Consider the following beliefs:

1) Humans are distinct from the rest - the worms, trees, rocks etc.
2) Humans are special
3) Humans are equal
4) Humans will be judged for their own individual actions

None of these have an objective, scientific or independent basis. From a scientific perspective, they are all wrong. Nor are they actually universal, though you could argue that most people would choose to live in a culture shaped by these beliefs. The influence that Europeans have had on the world over recent centuries is leading us all in that direction, even if some of us a kicking and screaming.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 26^th, 2018 at 6:21am:

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:40pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:37pm: freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 8:50am: spot: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:05am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy. Yeah okay that makes sense but this isnt really an xtian nation anymore is it. Nor are the other "white" countries. Rweligion doesnt play as big a part as in the 70s. Spot According to Harari, other aspects of our culture such as human rights have their roots in religion. As does much of our law. I dont know if human rights is a culture. Maybe it is but other cultures have them too - not all thats for sure. Im not really a history buff so dont know where human rights came from but our laws didnt come from religion the way a lot of religious people think. Not even in america. Religion was considered but wasnt the influence. If i have time i might read some harari. Spot

Ah NO...  not as such.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:40pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 1:00pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 6:24am: Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. Yeah you are right - however if we are talking about white culture it is food really isnt it. Spot No. Are you still having problems working out what your definition of culture is. BTW culture is not coloured. ::) So? I was originally replying to someone that was talking about white culture. Of course i was answering from an aussie perspective. Go back and read the thread. Spot

I'm not the one who doesn't know what culture is.
Unlike you I know about the topic before I enter into it.
You cant tell people they are wrong if YOU are clueless about the subject. ::)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 26^th, 2018 at 6:21am:

freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:40pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:37pm: freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 8:50am: spot: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:05am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy. Yeah okay that makes sense but this isnt really an xtian nation anymore is it. Nor are the other "white" countries. Rweligion doesnt play as big a part as in the 70s. Spot According to Harari, other aspects of our culture such as human rights have their roots in religion. As does much of our law. I dont know if human rights is a culture. Maybe it is but other cultures have them too - not all thats for sure. Im not really a history buff so dont know where human rights came from but our laws didnt come from religion the way a lot of religious people think. Not even in america. Religion was considered but wasnt the influence. If i have time i might read some harari. Spot

You don't  know history but you know that our laws don't  come from religion the way a lot of religious people think - but how do you know the way a lot of religious people think? If you do not know history, how do you know where our laws come from?

Laws come from the concepts of the indivudual and society and their relationships. Only the West has clear concepts and traditions that give priority to the individual. These traditions come fro Judaism and Greek Judaism a.k.a Christianity.

Other cultures have human rights - an entirely Western innovation- only insofar as they have adopted Western values and legal concepts.  Your kind of ignorance of history, Western history in particular, allows the forgetting of how we really got to where we are.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 2:38pm:

Frank wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 10:10am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:54am: aquascoot wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:18am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot um, the renaicance, the enlightenment,science, literature, architecture, skyscrapers, going to the moon, modern medicine, the automobile, technology, exploration, the westminster system. i think one should be able to think of a few more achievements of the west then "getting pissed". ;) Thats not culture Spot You are challenging Bwian for the leadership of the mindless and unmoored party. Geez what a well thought out and informative argument Spot

:D

Unlike your 'that's  not culture, spot'?   That's a  really well-thought out argument, isn't  it, at least considerkng your severe,  half-brained limitations.

Bwian's position is definitely threatened by you.

Grendel wrote on Aug 26^th, 2018 at 11:01am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:40pm: Grendel wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 1:00pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 6:24am: Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. Yeah you are right - however if we are talking about white culture it is food really isnt it. Spot No. Are you still having problems working out what your definition of culture is. BTW culture is not coloured. ::) So? I was originally replying to someone that was talking about white culture. Of course i was answering from an aussie perspective. Go back and read the thread. Spot I'm not the one who doesn't know what culture is. Unlike you I know about the topic before I enter into it. You cant tell people they are wrong if YOU are clueless about the subject. ::)

Thats just nasty. You seem to just be trolling.

Spot

Frank wrote on Aug 26^th, 2018 at 11:50am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 26th, 2018 at 6:21am: freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:40pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:37pm: freediver wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 8:50am: spot: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 8:05am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:57am: freediver wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 7:52am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 23rd, 2018 at 6:14am: What is a white culture? Only one i can think of is the culture of getting pissed. British irish aussie. We dont actually have any culture except for getting on the piss. Spot What about the abolition of slavery, liberal democracy, Christianity etc? Thats more culture than technology. Xtianity is religion. So is hinduism and budism. I dunno - kinda culture but i think of culture as customs and social behaviours. They can be caused by religion. Spot It's all culture. What you identify as culture is what you get when you subtract everything that has meaning or purpose from culture, leaving only the trivial. I would call that cultural baggage. It's like saying that Australian culture is meat pies. Religion, human rights, democracy etc are deeply ingrained in our society. Societies that lack these things cannot take them up easily, even if they want them. We could forget meat pies overnight and our culture would not change. But you would have to kill a lot of people to get rid of religion, human rights, democracy. Yeah okay that makes sense but this isnt really an xtian nation anymore is it. Nor are the other "white" countries. Rweligion doesnt play as big a part as in the 70s. Spot According to Harari, other aspects of our culture such as human rights have their roots in religion. As does much of our law. I dont know if human rights is a culture. Maybe it is but other cultures have them too - not all thats for sure. Im not really a history buff so dont know where human rights came from but our laws didnt come from religion the way a lot of religious people think. Not even in america. Religion was considered but wasnt the influence. If i have time i might read some harari. Spot You don't  know history but you know that our laws don't  come from religion the way a lot of religious people think - but how do you know the way a lot of religious people think? If you do not know history, how do you know where our laws come from? Laws come from the concepts of the indivudual and society and their relationships. Only the West has clear concepts and traditions that give priority to the individual. These traditions come fro Judaism and Greek Judaism a.k.a Christianity. Other cultures have human rights - an entirely Western innovation- only insofar as they have adopted Western values and legal concepts.  Your kind of ignorance of history, Western history in particular, allows the forgetting of how we really got to where we are.

I said i am not a history buff i know some history same as everyone else here. I learned in school the way the american laws were made and they actually tried to separate religion and state when they drafted the constitution. Ours is just modeled on theirs with a few less "freedoms".

I am inclined to agree with FD though partially. I hadnt thought of it that way before.

As for how religious people think (some) they think the laws are based on the 10 commandments. Specifically its the hillsong types that think this. Like morrison. The laws are obviously not based on the 10 commandments since theres only 1 (maybe 2) that are even similar. Stealing and killing.

Spot

Valkie wrote on Aug 25^th, 2018 at 7:13pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 7:10pm: A tinted culture... https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/colored-petri-dish-specimen-15628339.jpg That's not nice That culture has 10 times the IQ of any collection of muzzos, Abbos or Somalis

https://iq-research.info/en/average-iq-by-country

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 5:52am:

I said i am not a history buff i know some history same as everyone else here. I learned in school the way the american laws were made and they actually tried to separate religion and state when they drafted the constitution. Ours is just modeled on theirs with a few less "freedoms". I am inclined to agree with FD though partially. I hadnt thought of it that way before. As for how religious people think (some) they think the laws are based on the 10 commandments. Specifically its the hillsong types that think this. Like morrison. The laws are obviously not based on the 10 commandments since theres only 1 (maybe 2) that are even similar. Stealing and killing. Spot

You make up crap on the Spot, to coin a phrase.  Only very simple, half-brained people like you would ever imagine that there is nothing but the 10 commandments to Western law, political and constitutional history, let alone speak out loudly, parading even, your fathomless ignorance. Unfathomed by you, most painfully.

The separation of religion and state goes a very long way back, about 1700 years before the American constitution. It's authoritative source is one J. Christ of Bethlehem.

Frank wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 7:19pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 5:52am: I said i am not a history buff i know some history same as everyone else here. I learned in school the way the american laws were made and they actually tried to separate religion and state when they drafted the constitution. Ours is just modeled on theirs with a few less "freedoms". I am inclined to agree with FD though partially. I hadnt thought of it that way before. As for how religious people think (some) they think the laws are based on the 10 commandments. Specifically its the hillsong types that think this. Like morrison. The laws are obviously not based on the 10 commandments since theres only 1 (maybe 2) that are even similar. Stealing and killing. Spot You make up crap on the Spot, to coin a phrase.  Only very simple, half-brained people like you would ever imagine that there is nothing but the 10 commandments to Western law, political and constitutional history, let alone speak out loudly, parading even, your fathomless ignorance. Unfathomed by you, most painfully. The separation of religion and state goes a very long way back, about 1700 years before the American constitution. It's authoritative source is one J. Christ of Bethlehem.

Obviously you cant read.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 27^th, 2018 at 5:49am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 26th, 2018 at 11:01am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 2:40pm: Grendel wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 1:00pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 6:24am: Grendel wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:21pm: freediver wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 5:55pm: Yes, our culture is constantly evolving. It used to be a pie and a coke. Now it's a pie and an iced coffee. Sorry that is not culture...  that is diet. Yeah you are right - however if we are talking about white culture it is food really isnt it. Spot No. Are you still having problems working out what your definition of culture is. BTW culture is not coloured. ::) So? I was originally replying to someone that was talking about white culture. Of course i was answering from an aussie perspective. Go back and read the thread. Spot I'm not the one who doesn't know what culture is. Unlike you I know about the topic before I enter into it. You cant tell people they are wrong if YOU are clueless about the subject. ::) Thats just nasty. You seem to just be trolling. Spot

Nope...
happy for you to participate and show me and others you know what you are on about.
So far you haven't. ::)

BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws...

Try again.

I posted links to Convict Creations for you have you bothered to look at them yet?
No? ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 9:57am:

BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws... Try again.

I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america.

Spot

freediver wrote on Aug 26^th, 2018 at 8:17am:

A few centuries ago Europe was the only 'advanced' civilisation in which slavery had largely come to an end. Even serfdom in western Europe. Consider the following beliefs: 1) Humans are distinct from the rest - the worms, trees, rocks etc. 2) Humans are special 3) Humans are equal 4) Humans will be judged for their own individual actions None of these have an objective, scientific or independent basis. From a scientific perspective, they are all wrong. Nor are they actually universal, though you could argue that most people would choose to live in a culture shaped by these beliefs. The influence that Europeans have had on the world over recent centuries is leading us all in that direction, even if some of us a kicking and screaming.

Freeeeeedom, innit.

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Take that, Mother!

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Tinted versus tanned, innit.

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Inferior culture.

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As in the 'culture' in Cultural Cringe...........because that's been the case in Australia for decades......even centuries......

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 10:20am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 9:57am: BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws... Try again. I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america. Spot

just what is the big difference between based on and modelled on Spot?
BTW based or modelled...  but not on American ls...
Society, not based on America, except perhaps the Filipino intake a few decades ago.

Klownal TROLL...  we are not British or German or Dutch either... :D :D :D :D :D

http://religiousfreaks.com/UserFiles/Image/pope.insults.islam/scott.stantis.violence.wrong.jpg

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/566/1866/1600/brookins.jpg

http://rackjite.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/11115cc.jpg

https://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/garymccoyradicalreactstopope.gif

https://www.irreligion.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/cartoon362.jpg

https://www.cliomuse.com/uploads/9/2/4/6/9246605/4342364.jpg

http://blog.jonolan.net/wp-content/gallery/islamic-depictions-of-muhammad/islamic-depictions-muhammad-09.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Eb42MVAaXgA/UTA7txjQv8I/AAAAAAAABSE/DdT3abfHvyk/s640/muslim-warriors.jpg

https://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Askia-Muhammed-Toure.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/b4/f1/73/b4f1734f0a7c33861f30290ac9a01f14.jpg

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 2:53pm:

http://blog.jonolan.net/wp-content/gallery/islamic-depictions-of-muhammad/islamic-depictions-muhammad-09.jpg

Burn, Darkie, burn.

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 2:54pm:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Eb42MVAaXgA/UTA7txjQv8I/AAAAAAAABSE/DdT3abfHvyk/s640/muslim-warriors.jpg

Death to Mother! Allah Uakbar!

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 2:55pm:

https://atlantablackstar.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Askia-Muhammed-Toure.jpg

Inferior culture?

Inferior sub-species.

http://gatesofvienna.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/arabslavetrade.jpg

https://eatitorwearit.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/stoning-iran.gif

Wassup Klownal.....?

Got nothing sensible to say as usual...  ?

The cartoon in Reply #154     does it for me.


And the sentiment expressed, speaks to the authentic reason, as to why we should not allow moslems [the followers of ISLAM] to live in our society.


Koran 9.29, Koran 9.123, Koran 9.111, Koran 60:4

Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel.

Only one problem... ;)

They're all OLD

The 'New Age' has long begun ever since the Jewish Prophet Hitler replaced the Jewish Messiah Jesus and brought 'Holy War' upon the Jews by the Nazi.
It was the 'turning of the tide'.

The Moslems were invented via the Prophet Mohommed, to get back Religion from the Christians that they stole from both the Jews and the Middle-East and took it to Europe.

Now though, the emergence of the Moslem 'Messiah' is at hand, as the 'last vapors' of the old Moslem way will be thrown against 'Christian' France.

France? :-?
Well, yep - Britain had to 'step up' against Nazi Germany.
Now it has 'stepped back' (Brexit) from France (and its 'role' in the EU). Other nations will 'exit' and France will be left holding an empty EU cup in the face of the last Moslem onslaught ...as an 'Empire'.

So you can see the changing of the tides here. ;)

Before North America/Australia/Oceania/Samerica came on the scene...
...it was Jew Messiah & Moslem Prophet (Jewish wandering people, Moslem Empire).

But now (after) - the New Worlds are forcing change.
Now we have had a Jewish Prophet and soon (very soon) a Messiah (out of France) for the Moslems.


...ahh 'culture', its like a wheel turning ;)

Jasin wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 7:53pm:

Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel. Only one problem... ;) They're all OLD The 'New Age' has long begun ever since the Jewish Prophet Hitler replaced the Jewish Messiah Jesus and brought 'Holy War' upon the Jews by the Nazi. It was the 'turning of the tide'. The Moslems were invented via the Prophet Mohommed, to get back Religion from the Christians that they stole from both the Jews and the Middle-East and took it to Europe. Now though, the emergence of the Moslem 'Messiah' is at hand, as the 'last vapors' of the old Moslem way will be thrown against 'Christian' France. France? :-? Well, yep - Britain had to 'step up' against Nazi Germany. Now it has 'stepped back' (Brexit) from France (and its 'role' in the EU). Other nations will 'exit' and France will be left holding an empty EU cup in the face of the last Moslem onslaught ...as an 'Empire'. So you can see the changing of the tides here. ;) Before North America/Australia/Oceania/Samerica came on the scene... ...it was Jew Messiah & Moslem Prophet (Jewish wandering people, Moslem Empire). But now (after) - the New Worlds are forcing change. Now we have had a Jewish Prophet and soon (very soon) a Messiah (out of France) for the Moslems. ...ahh 'culture', its like a wheel turning ;)

It's where we are at the moment that matters, some cultures just cant let go of past baggage and move forward, its like they would rather remain primitive.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:12pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:53pm: Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel. Only one problem... ;) They're all OLD The 'New Age' has long begun ever since the Jewish Prophet Hitler replaced the Jewish Messiah Jesus and brought 'Holy War' upon the Jews by the Nazi. It was the 'turning of the tide'. The Moslems were invented via the Prophet Mohommed, to get back Religion from the Christians that they stole from both the Jews and the Middle-East and took it to Europe. Now though, the emergence of the Moslem 'Messiah' is at hand, as the 'last vapors' of the old Moslem way will be thrown against 'Christian' France. France? :-? Well, yep - Britain had to 'step up' against Nazi Germany. Now it has 'stepped back' (Brexit) from France (and its 'role' in the EU). Other nations will 'exit' and France will be left holding an empty EU cup in the face of the last Moslem onslaught ...as an 'Empire'. So you can see the changing of the tides here. ;) Before North America/Australia/Oceania/Samerica came on the scene... ...it was Jew Messiah & Moslem Prophet (Jewish wandering people, Moslem Empire). But now (after) - the New Worlds are forcing change. Now we have had a Jewish Prophet and soon (very soon) a Messiah (out of France) for the Moslems. ...ahh 'culture', its like a wheel turning ;) It's where we are at the moment that matters, some cultures just cant let go of past baggage and move forward, its like they would rather remain primitive.

Its about time someone on this Forum finally gets the BIG PICTURE. :)
You're absolutely right Xeej.  8-)

Those that hold onto the past too tightly, deny themselves any 'future'.
Many 'millions' die around the world each decade because they can't 'change' (with the world that 'turns').
They are like 'trapped' in time.

When the World calls for moslems to give up the 'weapon' and take up the Book and for Jews to drop the Book and become the 'heir' to Empire (Military SuperPower).
Those that - don't ...will die.

They will fade into the past and disappear - as if taken by the Veils of Azlaroc themselves.

If you want to stay alive in this world - you must 'turn' with it.
Even the Media, and those in it that can't accept 'change' - are finding it hard. Yesterday's victim of Racism - is today's perpetrator of it.

Jasin wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:24pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:12pm: Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:53pm: Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel. Only one problem... ;) They're all OLD The 'New Age' has long begun ever since the Jewish Prophet Hitler replaced the Jewish Messiah Jesus and brought 'Holy War' upon the Jews by the Nazi. It was the 'turning of the tide'. The Moslems were invented via the Prophet Mohommed, to get back Religion from the Christians that they stole from both the Jews and the Middle-East and took it to Europe. Now though, the emergence of the Moslem 'Messiah' is at hand, as the 'last vapors' of the old Moslem way will be thrown against 'Christian' France. France? :-? Well, yep - Britain had to 'step up' against Nazi Germany. Now it has 'stepped back' (Brexit) from France (and its 'role' in the EU). Other nations will 'exit' and France will be left holding an empty EU cup in the face of the last Moslem onslaught ...as an 'Empire'. So you can see the changing of the tides here. ;) Before North America/Australia/Oceania/Samerica came on the scene... ...it was Jew Messiah & Moslem Prophet (Jewish wandering people, Moslem Empire). But now (after) - the New Worlds are forcing change. Now we have had a Jewish Prophet and soon (very soon) a Messiah (out of France) for the Moslems. ...ahh 'culture', its like a wheel turning ;) It's where we are at the moment that matters, some cultures just cant let go of past baggage and move forward, its like they would rather remain primitive. Its about time someone on this Forum finally gets the BIG PICTURE. :) You're absolutely right Xeej.  8-) Those that hold onto the past too tightly, deny themselves any 'future'. Many 'millions' die around the world each decade because they can't 'change' (with the world that 'turns'). They are like 'trapped' in time. When the World calls for moslems to give up the 'weapon' and take up the Book and for Jews to drop the Book and become the 'heir' to Empire (Military SuperPower). Those that - don't ...will die. They will fade into the past and disappear - as if taken by the Veils of Azlaroc themselves. If you want to stay alive in this world - you must 'turn' with it. Even the Media, and those in it that can't accept 'change' - are finding it hard. Yesterday's victim of Racism - is today's perpetrator of it.

Democracy will sort that out, if allowed to survive.

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Wassup Klownal.....? Got nothing sensible to say as usual...  ?

Tinted, no?

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Johnnie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:24pm: Johnnie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:12pm: Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:53pm: Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel. Only one problem... ;) They're all OLD The 'New Age' has long begun ever since the Jewish Prophet Hitler replaced the Jewish Messiah Jesus and brought 'Holy War' upon the Jews by the Nazi. It was the 'turning of the tide'. The Moslems were invented via the Prophet Mohommed, to get back Religion from the Christians that they stole from both the Jews and the Middle-East and took it to Europe. Now though, the emergence of the Moslem 'Messiah' is at hand, as the 'last vapors' of the old Moslem way will be thrown against 'Christian' France. France? :-? Well, yep - Britain had to 'step up' against Nazi Germany. Now it has 'stepped back' (Brexit) from France (and its 'role' in the EU). Other nations will 'exit' and France will be left holding an empty EU cup in the face of the last Moslem onslaught ...as an 'Empire'. So you can see the changing of the tides here. ;) Before North America/Australia/Oceania/Samerica came on the scene... ...it was Jew Messiah & Moslem Prophet (Jewish wandering people, Moslem Empire). But now (after) - the New Worlds are forcing change. Now we have had a Jewish Prophet and soon (very soon) a Messiah (out of France) for the Moslems. ...ahh 'culture', its like a wheel turning ;) It's where we are at the moment that matters, some cultures just cant let go of past baggage and move forward, its like they would rather remain primitive. Its about time someone on this Forum finally gets the BIG PICTURE. :) You're absolutely right Xeej.  8-) Those that hold onto the past too tightly, deny themselves any 'future'. Many 'millions' die around the world each decade because they can't 'change' (with the world that 'turns'). They are like 'trapped' in time. When the World calls for moslems to give up the 'weapon' and take up the Book and for Jews to drop the Book and become the 'heir' to Empire (Military SuperPower). Those that - don't ...will die. They will fade into the past and disappear - as if taken by the Veils of Azlaroc themselves. If you want to stay alive in this world - you must 'turn' with it. Even the Media, and those in it that can't accept 'change' - are finding it hard. Yesterday's victim of Racism - is today's perpetrator of it. Democracy will sort that out, if allowed to survive.

And this why it will succeed by the New Team and why it has 'survived' only (not lived) by the Media Team...
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AiA wrote Today at 9:25am:

"Trump is a weak man's idea of a strong man." conservative American writer and commentator George Will.

[highlight]JaSin wrote..[/highlight]
For so long the Blue Brunette males, the Grey Raven-haired males, the Black and Yellow males...
...of the Media (which is bias towards Europe, Africa and Asia from its yet - unofficial home of Oceania).
Have corrupted POLITICS and ruined the world with their 'past' ways.

Now the New Team of 'White' Blonde-haired males, Red 'Ranga' males (Trump), Brown and Green males...
...of the Internet are coming to bringing a 'future' for a near 'ruined' (like the ruins of ancient Greece) Politics.

Of course, Trump (the Ranga) might be the 'rover' in the team (quote: AFL) and its 'weakest' player. But he was designed to be the LIGHTNING ROD, that draws in all the 'filth' and corruption that has plagued Politics for over a century or more.
Like the dwarven character Dain Ironfoot - he's designed to take and withstand a hammering and that's exactly what he has copped from the start, from the Media.
But when 'Angel-Aryan' with his blonde hair and blue eyes comes in like Flash Gorden on the wings of his avian friends... the Media is going to get its arse kicked something bad.

Don't expect Brunette & Raven-haired male Politicians to 'fix' the 'Brown' Middle-East  Roll Eyes They're too busy screwing it over for Europe, Asia & Africa (their turf).

It's pretty obvious that North America, South America & Australia are beyond the understanding and grasp of the Media Team.

Probably why the Media and its 'movies' just pump out fictional fantasy land movies ...it has no concept of 'reality' anymore beyond the reality of their 'celebrity' no-body reality shows.  Roll Eyes

Trump will fail in one way, but he's already succeeded in another  Wink

Put it this way - once Trump goes, you watch China turn up the heat so much, until another NON-MEDIA politician comes to finish it once and for all.


Media/TV
Africa & Blacks
Asia & Yellows
Europe & Blues
Oceania & Greys

Internet
North America & Reds
South America & Greens
Middle-East & Browns
Sahul (Aust) & Whites


....ahh, racism has never been so 'obvious'

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 3:09pm: Wassup Klownal.....? Got nothing sensible to say as usual...  ? Tinted, no?

Its boot polish.

Johnnie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:48pm: Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 3:09pm: Wassup Klownal.....? Got nothing sensible to say as usual...  ? Tinted, no? Its boot polish.

And the American said unto the African:
"And what do you have to offer for us bringing your race (by boat) from Africa, to this New World to share with us?"

African: "You want shoe-shine boss?"

Johnnie wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 8:53pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:48pm: Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 3:09pm: Wassup Klownal.....? Got nothing sensible to say as usual...  ? Tinted, no? Its boot polish.

Oh, that's a relief. Here we were thinking some of Grendel's best friends are Shoeshiners.

Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 9:34pm:

Johnnie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:53pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:48pm: Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 3:09pm: Wassup Klownal.....? Got nothing sensible to say as usual...  ? Tinted, no? Its boot polish. Oh, that's a relief. Here we were thinking some of Grendel's best friends are Shoeshiners.

I don't think the shoeshining profession exists anymore, I do remember the spit and polish though, a real art.

All cultures are equal but some are more equal than others......

Grendel wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 2:36pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:20am: Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 9:57am: BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws... Try again. I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america. Spot just what is the big difference between based on and modelled on Spot? BTW based or modelled...  but not on American ls... Society, not based on America, except perhaps the Filipino intake a few decades ago.

to base something on is to use that thing in its entirety and tweak it. to model on something is to use its format but not its data.

Our society isnt based on american. it was prolly based on british but we have evolved more towards americanism. Laws though are still pretty much what they were when drafted just lots and lots added to them. There are a lot of laws still on the books about herding your sheep in george st etc that they just dont want to remove.

Spot

Jasin wrote on Aug 28^th, 2018 at 7:53pm:

Funny how you pumped out some pretty neat pictures there Grendel. Only one problem... ;) They're all OLD

No problem at all just replying to Klownal.
did you miss his pictures eh.
BTW not all mine are old at all.
Mine show, old and new...  nothing has changed...  mine show Klownal is a disingenuous TROLL.
Wassup, you not quite up to date either? ::)

Pity I'm not racist like YOU eh Klownal.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

You have nothing but stupidity to offer here. :D :D :D :D :D

Grendel wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 9:54am:

Pity I'm not racist like YOU eh Klownal.... ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You have nothing but stupidity to offer here. :D :D :D :D :D

No no, Grendel, some of my best friends are One Nation voters.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 6:07am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:36pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:20am: Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 9:57am: BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws... Try again. I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america. Spot just what is the big difference between based on and modelled on Spot? BTW based or modelled...  but not on American ls... Society, not based on America, except perhaps the Filipino intake a few decades ago. to base something on is to use that thing in its entirety and tweak it. to model on something is to use its format but not its data. Our society isnt based on american. it was prolly based on british but we have evolved more towards americanism. Laws though are still pretty much what they were when drafted just lots and lots added to them. There are a lot of laws still on the books about herding your sheep in george st etc that they just dont want to remove. Spot

You're right Spot of Borg.
We were a British'ised Society.

The 'servitude' of us was strong and proud, that we would willingly honour that role for Britain (a thanks for giving us a nice new home).
But an element of Australian culture grew (possibly from Victoria) - that 'rebelled' and threw up the cliché 'undisciplined' defiance against British culture.

...eventually, this 'rebellious' nature ironically, 'grovelled' to all things American and was the forerunner to Republicanism, War of Independence and 'mercenary' actions for US forces. This 'republicanism' is mostly 'Irish' cliché against Monarchy.

Alas, the USA became a 'Privatised' political nation when it had its War of Independence. It was never 'sanctioned' by the British and to some degree now, the British seem more of a 'colony' to the USA now, these days.

Alas also, those Australians that rebelled against British rule, are indeed the biggest 'grovellers' to all things USA. The ultimate Australian 'crawl'.
...but USA will never 'support' Australia, like the British have.

...you will find, in the future - when Percival (Australia) bends the knee to King Arthur (Britain). It will bring Britain out of is 'dark age' (long after the process of Germany, France & Italy have dropped 'religion', politics and military - as an empowerment) - and on to 'save us'.
...while Lancelot (USA), having slept with King Arthur's wife (Ireland) fails us, but comes to the aid of his King.

Ahhh, don't you love human nature and 'story' - afterall, it was written ...in stone. ;)

Nations are no different to 'people'.  ;) ;) ;)

LOL

Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s.  That is an undeniable fact.  Australians were considered British subjects...  NOT British, until the 1900s...  but our culture and society does differ from the British culture.  We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well.

We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history.  Just as we recognise the British.

Grendel wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:25am:

LOL Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s.  That is an undeniable fact.  Australians were considered British subjects...  NOT British, until the 1900s...  but our culture and society does differ from the British culture.  We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well. We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history.  Just as we recognise the British.

That's right. Aboriginals are our 'black' representatives. Every region now has their own 'blacks', just like they all have their own representatives of the other races: blonde whites, red rangas, blue brunettes, olive greenies, yellows, grey ravens and brownies.

I would stand by my fellow 'black' Australian in a fight, if it was against others of my own 'racial' appearance from another region.

x8 Races.
x8 Regions.
...each Region has a representation of each of the 8 Races.
A wheel can only turn if it has 'spokes' to strengthen it. ;)

Jasin wrote on Aug 30^th, 2018 at 8:39am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:25am: LOL Australian society and culture was influenced by the settlement by the British starting in the 1700s.  That is an undeniable fact.  Australians were considered British subjects...  NOT British, until the 1900s...  but our culture and society does differ from the British culture.  We are not: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh..... our society and culture has been influenced by the Aboriginal culture as well. We as a people recognise Aboriginals as Australian as does the rest of the world, we recognise their place in our history.  Just as we recognise the British. That's right. Aboriginals are our 'black' representatives. Every region now has their own 'blacks', just like they all have their own representatives of the other races: blonde whites, red rangas, blue brunettes, olive greenies, yellows, grey ravens and brownies. I would stand by my fellow 'black' Australian in a fight, if it was against others of my own 'racial' appearance from another region. x8 Races. x8 Regions. ...each Region has a representation of each of the 8 Races. A wheel can only turn if it has 'spokes' to strengthen it. ;)

Be racist all you like, I choose to opt out from such ignorant stupidity. It's irrelevant to this topic. ::)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 29^th, 2018 at 6:07am:

Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 2:36pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 10:20am: Grendel wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 9:57am: BTW Spot our laws are not based on american laws... Try again. I didnt say based on i said modeled on. we (the "western countries) all have the same kind of format. Prolly not the american ones though more the british ones however a lot of ppl in this country seem to think we are an extension of america. Spot just what is the big difference between based on and modelled on Spot? BTW based or modelled...  but not on American ls... Society, not based on America, except perhaps the Filipino intake a few decades ago. to base something on is to use that thing in its entirety and tweak it. to model on something is to use its format but not its data. Our society isnt based on american. it was prolly based on british but we have evolved more towards americanism. Laws though are still pretty much what they were when drafted just lots and lots added to them. There are a lot of laws still on the books about herding your sheep in george st etc that they just dont want to remove. Spot

:D :D :D