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Message started by cods on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:18pm

Title: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:18pm
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/western-sydney-father-charged-relating-to-the-alleged-injury-and-neglect-of-a-young-baby/news-story/f27cf394bce01268073acdb4ab361a3f
A FATHER from Western Sydney has been arrested on charges relating to the alleged injury and neglect of a young baby.

Detectives from State Crime Command’s Child Abuse and Sex Crimes Squad established Strike Force Yarrabee to investigate after police were notified the seven-week-old boy had been left with permanent disabilities after he suffered brain, eye, and spinal injuries.
The child was first presented at The Children’s Hospital at Westmead after suffering ongoing seizures on 17 April, 2018.

A 27-year-old woman remains before the courts after she was arrested in relation to the matter in June.

Further investigations from strike force detectives led to the arrest of a 30-year-old man at Ryde about 8.30am on Thursday.

He was taken to Ryde Police Station, where he was charged with reckless grievous bodily harm and not provide for child cause danger of serious injury.

Police will allege in court the man injured the child who then suffered seizures for at least 24 hours before medical attention was sought.

The man is due to appear at Burwood Local Court on 17 September and was granted bail.

The child is now in the care of relatives.




some crimes are inhuman....

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:50pm

cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:18pm:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/western-sydney-father-charged-relating-to-the-alleged-injury-and-neglect-of-a-young-baby/news-story/f27cf394bce01268073acdb4ab361a3f
A FATHER from Western Sydney has been arrested on charges relating to the alleged injury and neglect of a young baby.

Detectives from State Crime Command’s Child Abuse and Sex Crimes Squad established Strike Force Yarrabee to investigate after police were notified the seven-week-old boy had been left with permanent disabilities after he suffered brain, eye, and spinal injuries.
The child was first presented at The Children’s Hospital at Westmead after suffering ongoing seizures on 17 April, 2018.

A 27-year-old woman remains before the courts after she was arrested in relation to the matter in June.

Further investigations from strike force detectives led to the arrest of a 30-year-old man at Ryde about 8.30am on Thursday.

He was taken to Ryde Police Station, where he was charged with reckless grievous bodily harm and not provide for child cause danger of serious injury.

Police will allege in court the man injured the child who then suffered seizures for at least 24 hours before medical attention was sought.

The man is due to appear at Burwood Local Court on 17 September and was granted bail.

The child is now in the care of relatives.




some crimes are inhuman....


Totally agree.

The one in your OP, for example.

Also, the premeditated state-sanction killing of prisoners.



Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gordon on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gordon on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:51pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.


Greg would look him in the eye.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Cu Chullain on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.


What about when you shoot a woman in the head Bobby? Should you shoot her in the face or blow her face off from behind?


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Agnes on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:04pm

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.

no a warm wet lettuce leaf-  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:06pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.


What about when you shoot a woman in the head Bobby? Should you shoot her in the face or blow her face off from behind?


Nah.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gordon on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:08pm

Agnes wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:04pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdbKHZdGcE


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.

no a warm wet lettuce leaf-  ;D ;D ;D ;D


I think I meant wet tissue.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:09pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.


What about when you shoot a woman in the head Bobby? Should you shoot her in the face or blow her face off from behind?



We don't need your horrific pictures - off topic.
This is about the mistreatment of a little baby.
What should be the punishment?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Cu Chullain on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:12pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:06pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.


What about when you shoot a woman in the head Bobby? Should you shoot her in the face or blow her face off from behind?


Nah.


Nah what?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by buzzanddidj on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:17pm

cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:18pm:
this makes me want the Death Penalty back



Not ME

As athiests, we OPPOSE the death penalty - in ALL circumstances
Be it a terrorist mass murderer with Daesh - or a serial toast burning waitress

The death penalty advocacy - in "civil society" - is more of a Christian thing






Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:09pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:54pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 8:38pm:
Greggy,
you need to watch the movie called  " hang em high" -
then you'll understand.


Greg prefers the movie staring John Inman called, slap them with a wet lettuce leaf and slap them hard.



When you hang a man you better look at him.


What about when you shoot a woman in the head Bobby? Should you shoot her in the face or blow her face off from behind?



We don't need your horrific pictures - off topic.
This is about the mistreatment of a little baby.
What should be the punishment?


The full extent of the law.

Has anyone suggested anything less?


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Cu Chullain on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:13pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.


You are OK with Bobby posting hangings though? All executions are brutal and final. I don't care if you find the picture confronting, it makes the counterpoint to Bobby's "peaceful" executions by hanging which are anything but peaceful.

BTW, what is this gratuitous brutality? It's an execution.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:14pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.


You are OK with Bobby posting hangings though? All executions are brutal and final. I don't care if you find the picture confronting, it makes the counterpoint to Bobby's "peaceful" executions by hanging which are anything but peaceful.



Link?


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Cu Chullain on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:17pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:14pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.


You are OK with Bobby posting hangings though? All executions are brutal and final. I don't care if you find the picture confronting, it makes the counterpoint to Bobby's "peaceful" executions by hanging which are anything but peaceful.



Link?


I haven't seen Aussie post the same at Bobby so therefore I can't give a link, he hasn't done it therefore I can't post it.

Edit: Are you crying about the pics too?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:20pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:14pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.


You are OK with Bobby posting hangings though? All executions are brutal and final. I don't care if you find the picture confronting, it makes the counterpoint to Bobby's "peaceful" executions by hanging which are anything but peaceful.



Link?


I haven't seen Aussie post the same at Bobby so therefore I can't give a link, he hasn't done it therefore I can't post it.


We have all condemned Booby for his support of murder.

He advocates vigilante killings, and none of us on the left are happy with that.

Those on the right, however, have never said a word in opposition to it.




Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Cu Chullain on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:29pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:20pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:17pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:14pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:13pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.


You are OK with Bobby posting hangings though? All executions are brutal and final. I don't care if you find the picture confronting, it makes the counterpoint to Bobby's "peaceful" executions by hanging which are anything but peaceful.



Link?


I haven't seen Aussie post the same at Bobby so therefore I can't give a link, he hasn't done it therefore I can't post it.


We have all condemned Booby for his support of murder.

He advocates vigilante killings, and none of us on the left are happy with that.

Those on the right, however, have never said a word in opposition to it.


So you just object to me showing the reality and brutality of execution to Bobby? I know it upsets him because it's not all clean like a movie hanging and shows the reality of his wishes. I'll continue to post them or perhaps others until he sees the ugliness of execution. If that hurts yours or Aussie's feelings, I could give a rat's arse. Welcome to the world we live in.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:51pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
So you just object to me showing the reality and brutality of execution to Bobby? I know it upsets him because it's not all clean like a movie hanging and shows the reality of his wishes. I'll continue to post them or perhaps others until he sees the ugliness of execution. If that hurts yours or Aussie's feelings, I could give a rat's arse. Welcome to the world we live in.




Even though you were prompted -
you have still made no mention of the appalling crimes committed on victims.

The victims don't matter to you -
you just want a soft approach to crime.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by AiA on Aug 24th, 2018 at 11:08pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 9:19pm:
Nah....you have posted that image before.  I was critical then and I am critical now.  That sort of gratuitous brutality no-one needs to see to believe it happens.


Call for his suspension Aussie, just like you would do if I had posted it. Turd.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Cu Chullain on Aug 24th, 2018 at 11:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
So you just object to me showing the reality and brutality of execution to Bobby? I know it upsets him because it's not all clean like a movie hanging and shows the reality of his wishes. I'll continue to post them or perhaps others until he sees the ugliness of execution. If that hurts yours or Aussie's feelings, I could give a rat's arse. Welcome to the world we live in.




Even though you were prompted -
you have still made no mention of the appalling crimes committed on victims.

The victims don't matter to you -
you just want a soft approach to crime.


Not at all Bobby. Just not a fan of your "final solution".

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 24th, 2018 at 11:33pm

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 11:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:51pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 10:29pm:
So you just object to me showing the reality and brutality of execution to Bobby? I know it upsets him because it's not all clean like a movie hanging and shows the reality of his wishes. I'll continue to post them or perhaps others until he sees the ugliness of execution. If that hurts yours or Aussie's feelings, I could give a rat's arse. Welcome to the world we live in.




Even though you were prompted -
you have still made no mention of the appalling crimes committed on victims.

The victims don't matter to you -
you just want a soft approach to crime.


Not at all Bobby. Just not a fan of your "final solution".



You can't seem to put yourself in the place of innocent victims of
crimes that are: so heinous, so abhorrent, so shocking & evil
that they deserve a minimum of the death penalty.
At least those who commit them would get a fair trial in front of a judge & jury plus an appeal -
what justice did their victims get?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Karnal on Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:01am

cods wrote on Aug 24th, 2018 at 7:18pm:
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/western-sydney-father-charged-relating-to-the-alleged-injury-and-neglect-of-a-young-baby/news-story/f27cf394bce01268073acdb4ab361a3f
A FATHER from Western Sydney has been arrested on charges relating to the alleged injury and neglect of a young baby.

Detectives from State Crime Command’s Child Abuse and Sex Crimes Squad established Strike Force Yarrabee to investigate after police were notified the seven-week-old boy had been left with permanent disabilities after he suffered brain, eye, and spinal injuries.
The child was first presented at The Children’s Hospital at Westmead after suffering ongoing seizures on 17 April, 2018.

A 27-year-old woman remains before the courts after she was arrested in relation to the matter in June.

Further investigations from strike force detectives led to the arrest of a 30-year-old man at Ryde about 8.30am on Thursday.

He was taken to Ryde Police Station, where he was charged with reckless grievous bodily harm and not provide for child cause danger of serious injury.

Police will allege in court the man injured the child who then suffered seizures for at least 24 hours before medical attention was sought.

The man is due to appear at Burwood Local Court on 17 September and was granted bail.

The child is now in the care of relatives.




some crimes are inhuman....


I agree, dear. The price of organs would certainly come down. Forget a liver or a spleen.

The cost of a decent cock these days is ludicrous.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:37am
Are drugs involved?  Surely when an addict gives birth, there should be a mandatory supervision order.

What kind of society are we becoming, when people are insane enough to injure and murder their own children, and even though the precedents are there and the chances calculated of abuse/neglect and so forth - no intervention occurs until fearful injury to an innocent?

Are we, as a society, now so cowed by the victimhood industry, and 'stolen generations' and such, that there is no place for saying Enough!?

I know this nation is insane..... but there are those within it who are more insane than the rest...

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Aug 25th, 2018 at 6:51am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 25th, 2018 at 12:37am:
Are drugs involved?  Surely when an addict gives birth, there should be a mandatory supervision order.

What kind of society are we becoming, when people are insane enough to injure and murder their own children, and even though the precedents are there and the chances calculated of abuse/neglect and so forth - no intervention occurs until fearful injury to an innocent?

Are we, as a society, now so cowed by the victimhood industry, and 'stolen generations' and such, that there is no place for saying Enough!?

I know this nation is insane..... but there are those within it who are more insane than the rest...


Its just a fact of life. The world is full of arseholes. There are a lot of people so theres always a percentage of psycho-socio-paths

Spot

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 28th, 2018 at 1:01am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


I did - I even wrote to the head of state and asked for clemency.... oh, well....

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:21am

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 1:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


I did - I even wrote to the head of state and asked for clemency.... oh, well....


You're making that up.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:24am
Some creatures cannot be rehabilitated, they are born with a mental illness that prevents them from acting like a human being.

We know them as sociopaths, they just don't care.
They murder and treat people with no concern at all.
Why should we allow this to live, only to see it go out and kill again?

As for vigilantism, it has its place.
Harm my family, and I'm sorry, a slap on the wrist just don't cut it.
I will find them, or pay someone to find them and reap justice.

The human race worries so much about killing people
Yet every single day some despot murders thousands
A retarded dead prophet calls his minions to arms to kill every day.
Politicians, by way of denying critical help to pensioners, hospitals and health care literally murder thousands every single day.
Multinationals rape the land, poison people, provide alcohol, cigarettes and other addictive positions, knowing full well that there will eventually and painfully murder the people using them.

Tell me, all you bleeding hearts, what are you doing about the above, it's still deliberate murder, even if it's slow and PROFITABLE.

You make me sick, won't kill some base turd who should be removed because he is worthless and a danger to people, but condone the slow painful DEATH of millions through deliberate inaction or greed.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:28am

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:24am:
Some creatures cannot be rehabilitated, they are born with a mental illness that prevents them from acting like a human being.

We know them as sociopaths, they just don't care.
They murder and treat people with no concern at all.
Why should we allow this to live, only to see it go out and kill again?

As for vigilantism, it has its place.
Harm my family, and I'm sorry, a slap on the wrist just don't cut it.
I will find them, or pay someone to find them and reap justice.

The human race worries so much about killing people
Yet every single day some despot murders thousands
A retarded dead prophet calls his minions to arms to kill every day.
Politicians, by way of denying critical help to pensioners, hospitals and health care literally murder thousands every single day.
Multinationals rape the land, poison people, provide alcohol, cigarettes and other addictive positions, knowing full well that there will eventually and painfully murder the people using them.

Tell me, all you bleeding hearts, what are you doing about the above, it's still deliberate murder, even if it's slow and PROFITABLE.

You make me sick, won't kill some base turd who should be removed because he is worthless and a danger to people, but condone the slow painful DEATH of millions through deliberate inaction or greed.



Yes - the Bali bombers were executed.

did anyone complain?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by issuevoter on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:47am
A society that is unable to acknowledge the evil of Islam,  in deed protects it, is not bringing back Capital Punishment.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:06am

Quote:
Yes - the Bali bombers were executed.

did anyone complain?


Plenty did.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:13am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:21am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 1:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


I did - I even wrote to the head of state and asked for clemency.... oh, well....


You're making that up.



there was a huge outcry from this country bobby..

how dare you say no one complained. I most certainly did  as did many others including the Govt...

it was horrible stuff.......

as much as I wrote to title of this thread   the death penalty is too easy....but we must make jail harder for certain people.....it used to be called HARD LABOUR  then the dogooders found a cause.. ::)....this person should he get jail  will also get protection when he is in there........what punishment is that?. :'(

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:21pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?


No.

Riot police were called in.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:25pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?


No.

Riot police were called in.



In your head - it happened -
take your meds.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?


No.

Riot police were called in.



In your head - it happened -
take your meds.


You were saying?

"Jakarta, Indonesia: Indonesian security forces have been put on high alert for possible backlashes following the execution of three Islamic militants on Saturday.

"They were executed for the 2002 Bali bombings. Thousands of supporters had spilled into the streets protesting the execution."


Bali bombers' execution sparks off protest clashes

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:33pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?


No.

Riot police were called in.



In your head - it happened -
take your meds.


You were saying?

"Jakarta, Indonesia: Indonesian security forces have been put on high alert for possible backlashes following the execution of three Islamic militants on Saturday.

"They were executed for the 2002 Bali bombings. Thousands of supporters had spilled into the streets protesting the execution."


Bali bombers' execution sparks off protest clashes



Greggy,
Terrorists protesting doesn't count - you fool.


Quote:
The protesters regarded the bombers as heroes and not mass murderers because of their proclaimed Jihad against the enemies of Islam.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?


Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by .JaSin. on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:06pm

DEATH PENALTY DOES NOT WORK!

Nations that have it are extremely high on the statistic of all-round violence. Chances are - 'your' murderer will be executed, but you won't be around to see it ...basically.

If someone 'murders' another.
You do not 'execute' them (by State).

They should all be sent to Australia, like all the rest of the world's criminals have. There, they are 'imprisoned' and subjected to being 'ripped off', 'assaulted', 'treated like turd', money taken and spent on overseas holidays and relief packages.

Australians are Criminals: Murderers, Thieves, Rapists, Child Abusers
...make them 'pay' (for Indonesian Hand-outs  ;D) - put em too work!!! >:(

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?


No.

Riot police were called in.



In your head - it happened -
take your meds.


You were saying?

"Jakarta, Indonesia: Indonesian security forces have been put on high alert for possible backlashes following the execution of three Islamic militants on Saturday.

"They were executed for the 2002 Bali bombings. Thousands of supporters had spilled into the streets protesting the execution."


Bali bombers' execution sparks off protest clashes



Greggy,
Terrorists protesting doesn't count - you fool.


Quote:
The protesters regarded the bombers as heroes and not mass murderers because of their proclaimed Jihad against the enemies of Islam.


"notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed."

You were wrong, again.

Thousands protested.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 28th, 2018 at 9:11pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



Most people were glad that those savages got what was coming to them.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:54am
The silent majority of millions

CHEERED

But the politically correct pretended to be offended

I'll bet many of them CHEERED as well, just too afraid of the PC bullies to voice it aloud.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 29th, 2018 at 7:53am

Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
DEATH PENALTY DOES NOT WORK!

Nations that have it are extremely high on the statistic of all-round violence. Chances are - 'your' murderer will be executed, but you won't be around to see it ...basically.

If someone 'murders' another.
You do not 'execute' them (by State).

They should all be sent to Australia, like all the rest of the world's criminals have. There, they are 'imprisoned' and subjected to being 'ripped off', 'assaulted', 'treated like turd', money taken and spent on overseas holidays and relief packages.

Australians are Criminals: Murderers, Thieves, Rapists, Child Abusers
...make them 'pay' (for Indonesian Hand-outs  ;D) - put em too work!!!
>:(



Correct.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 29th, 2018 at 4:27pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:33pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:25pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:21pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:
There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.




You're joking?


No.

Riot police were called in.



In your head - it happened -
take your meds.


You were saying?

"Jakarta, Indonesia: Indonesian security forces have been put on high alert for possible backlashes following the execution of three Islamic militants on Saturday.

"They were executed for the 2002 Bali bombings. Thousands of supporters had spilled into the streets protesting the execution."


Bali bombers' execution sparks off protest clashes



Greggy,
Terrorists protesting doesn't count - you fool.


Quote:
The protesters regarded the bombers as heroes and not mass murderers because of their proclaimed Jihad against the enemies of Islam.


"notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed."

You were wrong, again.

Thousands protested.



So Greggy - you support these people?


Quote:
The protesters regarded the bombers as heroes and not mass murderers because of their proclaimed Jihad against the enemies of Islam.


Greggy is a terrorist sympathiser.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 29th, 2018 at 5:23pm

Jasin wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 7:06pm:
DEATH PENALTY DOES NOT WORK!

Nations that have it are extremely high on the statistic of all-round violence. Chances are - 'your' murderer will be executed, but you won't be around to see it ...basically.

If someone 'murders' another.
You do not 'execute' them (by State).

They should all be sent to Australia, like all the rest of the world's criminals have. There, they are 'imprisoned' and subjected to being 'ripped off', 'assaulted', 'treated like turd', money taken and spent on overseas holidays and relief packages.

Australians are Criminals: Murderers, Thieves, Rapists, Child Abusers
...make them 'pay' (for Indonesian Hand-outs  ;D) - put em too work!!! >:(


Many, many paedophiles, murderers, thieves, and rapists leave their cushy gaol cells to re-offend,

How many executed offenders re-offend?

How can you say it does not work.

Show me one case, from anywhere in the world , where an executed offender re-offends.

Sounds effective to me.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by issuevoter on Aug 30th, 2018 at 7:48am
The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! :'(

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by PZ547 on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:11pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?




Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.
Time for the people to bite Back.



[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:15pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 7:48am:
The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! :'(



I  would not vote for a return of the death penalty.....

but on posting the op...I find have not the tiniest bit of compassion for this couple   .. if they throw away the key...

deterrent or not... what we are doing isnt working either.....there is no punishment that will ever give some justice... :( :(

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by PZ547 on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:22pm

Quote:
The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! :'(


[smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]



Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:25pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 7:48am:
The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! :'(


I say the standard argument is that the State may not murder in my name.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by PZ547 on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:27pm
And euthanasia to be provided the child currently compelled to live its life as a vegetable


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:51pm

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 7:48am:
The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! :'(


Who said anything about compassion?


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by PZ547 on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:53pm

Quote:
the seven-week-old boy had been left with permanent disabilities after he suffered brain, eye, and spinal injuries

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 30th, 2018 at 3:06pm

PZ547 wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:53pm:

Quote:
the seven-week-old boy had been left with permanent disabilities after he suffered brain, eye, and spinal injuries


Appalling, but beyond that...what is your point?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:03pm

PZ547 wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:27pm:
And euthanasia to be provided the child currently compelled to live its life as a vegetable




I grant you it is cruel    and my heart breaks for this baby....but who are we to say who should live and who should die....

I wouldnt want to be the person with that job..

would you?..

if we all lived in a perfect world....who would be the most perfect?.... I dont seriously think we want that..


as much as the baby did not a thing to deserve this   it is what it is......I cant think of a punishment that people like that should get to be honest.....

do we stoop to their level  will that make this child better????..... an eye for an eye..

I dont think it works like that.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:18pm

cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 2:15pm:

issuevoter wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 7:48am:
The standard argument against capital punishment is that is not a deterrent, but that is not the point. Capital punishment is not a punishment either. It is a matter of removing offenders from society, permanently. Like taking the garbage out, and burying it in landfill. Oh how lacking in compassion!!! :'(



I  would not vote for a return of the death penalty.....

but on posting the op...I find have not the tiniest bit of compassion for this couple   .. if they throw away the key...

deterrent or not... what we are doing isnt working either.....there is no punishment that will ever give some justice... :( :(



Cods,
you'd never make a good hangman then.

However - Valkie , Hammer & I would do it for free and
sleep well the same night knowing that society was a better place
and that we'd done our duty for society.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm
your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is   the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:26pm

cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is   the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....


Three good posts from cods today, in this thread.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:27pm

cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is   the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....



But seeing someone swinging from a lamp post acts as a powerful deterrent.

Hanging is a strong force of dissuasion.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:28pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:27pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is   the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....



But seeing someone swinging from a lamp post acts as a powerful deterrent.

Hanging is a strong force of dissuasion.


No, it doesn't.

Worldwide studies, over many decades, have shown just the opposite.

Put it back in your pants, Booby.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by cods on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:32pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:27pm:

cods wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 4:24pm:
your missing the point bobby... [ is that Christian having those thoughts}...

the point is   the death penalty never did stop murder...

look at Amerika?....a good example of torturing people if ever there was......

no mate give it up.....



But seeing someone swinging from a lamp post acts as a powerful deterrent.



no my dear....I watched a bit of a show on SBS  it was meant to be entertainment    ::) The handmaids tale...


dark and gloomy as hell   and the one show I managed to get had people hanging in the streets...

so they had no choice but to walk past them

sorry  my dear.... everyone in the show looked mad and sad and beaten down...no no no,.,.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:06pm
Love the discussion about compassion.

How much COMPASSION do murderers show to their victims?

How much COMPASSION do paedophiles show for their victims and their families?

How much COMPASSION do rapists show for their victims?

I'm happy to show them the same COMPASSION they show.
While I throw the switch.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:25pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:06pm:
Love the discussion about compassion.

How much COMPASSION do murderers show to their victims?

How much COMPASSION do paedophiles show for their victims and their families?

How much COMPASSION do rapists show for their victims?

I'm happy to show them the same COMPASSION they show.
While I throw the switch.



They deserve no compassion.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:45pm
What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? 

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:48pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? 



Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? 



Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.


And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder?  Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 30th, 2018 at 9:05pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? 



Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.


And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder?  Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.



There's no other way to do it Aussie -

pulling out a rotten tooth is not nice either

but it's a job that has to be done.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Aug 31st, 2018 at 5:50am

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? 



Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.


And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder?  Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.


The same way murderers plan and kill their victims

The same way paedophiles groom and work on kids for years to get their destructive way.

The same way drug dealers plan and build addicts to feather their own nests.

The difference is
The criminal has many victims who have done nothing wrong

The state removes a creature who does wrong, and will continue to harm innocent people.

It's not hard to see the difference unless you deliberately don't want to.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 6:09am

Valkie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 5:50am:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:48pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 30th, 2018 at 8:45pm:
What does 'compassion' have to do with this, Bobby? 



Everything.

Criminals show no compassion for their victims.
It's not enough to rob someone -
they want to maim & kill them as well.


And what has that got to do with the level of compassion a hangman might experience?

How does 'compassion' fit nicely, or at all, into a debate about State sanctioned murder?  Seems to me that compassion has nothing to do with it, as it is a cold-blooded, premeditated, carefully planned killing by the State.


The same way murderers plan and kill their victims

The same way paedophiles groom and work on kids for years to get their destructive way.

The same way drug dealers plan and build addicts to feather their own nests.

The difference is
The criminal has many victims who have done nothing wrong

The state removes a creature who does wrong, and will continue to harm innocent people.

It's not hard to see the difference unless you deliberately don't want to.



dear Valkie,
this country needs more people like you.
Also - President Duterte knows what to do.



Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?


Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.


You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

;) ;) ;)

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 31st, 2018 at 2:28pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?


Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.


You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

;) ;) ;)


He's certainly an extremist.

If any other extremist says ...

"Some people have no right to live."

"I have no issue in eradicating these insects No more than I do squishing a cockroach."

"Time for the people to bite Back."


... the right wingers go off their tiny, empty heads.

Yet when one of their own promotes such violence, they have no issue with it.

Is there a bigger group of hypocrites in the world than right wingers?


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 6:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 2:28pm:
He's certainly an extremist.

If any other extremist says ...

"Some people have no right to live."

"I have no issue in eradicating these insects No more than I do squishing a cockroach."

"Time for the people to bite Back."


... the right wingers go off their tiny, empty heads.

Yet when one of their own promotes such violence, they have no issue with it.

Is there a bigger group of hypocrites in the world than right wingers?



Greggy,
someone has to stand up for what is right -

pulling out a rotten tooth is not nice either

but it's a job that has to be done.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:00pm
So pulling out a rotten tooth is exactly like the premeditated killing of a person?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:04pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:00pm:
So pulling out a rotten tooth is exactly like the premeditated killing of a person?


A rotten tooth is a mass of decaying filth -
so yes it's almost the same.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm:
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.



Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman -
I want you to be a man for once.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm:
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.



Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman -
I want you to be a man for once.


I am not a Dentist, Bobby.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gnads on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:19pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?


Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.


You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

;) ;) ;)


But in reality I know who the fanatic is  ::)

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gnads on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:22pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:00pm:
So pulling out a rotten tooth is exactly like the premeditated killing of a person?


How about you pose that question to all the premeditated murderers we have locked up in out prison system?

Or the many that have got out after paltry sentencing or inept parole decisions?

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:23pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm:
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.



Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman -
I want you to be a man for once.


I am not a Dentist, Bobby.



Aussie - is it safe?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xBJERznOgA

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by philperth2010 on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:23pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?


Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.


You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

;) ;) ;)


But in reality I know who the fanatic is  ::)


Look in the mirror mate???

:) :) :)

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gnads on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:23pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm:
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.



Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman -
I want you to be a man for once.


I am not a Dentist, Bobby.


And sometimes your not the "man" either.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gnads on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:24pm

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:19pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 1:49pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 6:36pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:46pm:

cods wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:39pm:

Valkie wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 5:26pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:19pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 4:12pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 28th, 2018 at 8:33am:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:48pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Aug 27th, 2018 at 9:41pm:
Some people cannot be defended so I will not try....
My problem is once the State has the power to execute it's citizens it will use it???

:-? :-? :-?




In extreme cases it's needed.

PS.  notice no one complained when the Bali bombers were executed.


Plenty of people complained.



I didn't hear a single complaint.



Quote:
The 2002 Bali bombings occurred on 12 October 2002 in the tourist district of Kuta on the Indonesian island of Bali. The attack killed 202 people (including 88 Australians, 38 Indonesians, and people of more than 20 other nationalities). A further 209 people were injured.


There were thousands of people protesting in the streets.


And millions more silently cheering.

I was one of them.

Good riddance, but they should also eliminate the whole gene pool of these murderers.
That way it would make them think twice, knowing that their whole family were forfeit.



are you referring to Bali Bombers   or the Bali 9....


if two sides feel like you do.... then we will always have WARs wont we?


Both
Both were murderers in their own way.

One lot with a bang

The other lot by slow lingering DEATH

Take you pick





ok... what about all those lingering in aussie jails....



so you are ok with hate wars continuing indefinitely ?


Some people have no right to live.
They forfeit their lives by any one of a number of crimes
Murderers did not care about the person they murdered
Pedophiles care nothing for the children who's lives they destroy
Drug dealers care only about what they can get, not about the lives they destroy.
Politicians, just for taking breath, they lie and destroy lives in pursuit of power and money.

I have no issue in eradicating these insects
No more than I do squishing a cockroach.

They prey on those who do the right thing or innocent people.

Time for the people to bite Back.


You sound like a fanatic Muslim mate???

;) ;) ;)


But in reality I know who the fanatic is  ::)


Look in the mirror mate???

:) :) :)


No 2nd prizes.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:24pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm:
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.



Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman -
I want you to be a man for once.


I am not a Dentist, Bobby.


And sometimes your not the "man" either.




Don't worry - I'm going to change Aussie.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by .JaSin. on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:26pm
You are all missing the point really.

State sanctioned execution might work in some nations, sometimes it doesn't.

But here in Australia - it would not work at all.
In fact, it would make this country worse.

Understand that Australia is different, although many here try to live it much like other parts of the world.

Like the joke: How do you kill an Aussie?
You leave them alone and they'll do it themselves.

So with that said, we would not have to execute.
We are a nation of SUICIDE (we gotta go overseas for war and for other nations for starters).

Isolate them - socially, environmentally and more ...and they'll kill themselves (like the cowards they are).
Even now, with Australia being the highest ratio of drug addicts (self destruction) in the world, per population. We are well on the way anyway.

Isolation was what failed the Aborigines and it would still do the same to anyone, today. Look around and you'll see what happens to people, when they have no-one left. It's the loneliness that's the killer.

Name and Shame and let isolationism do the rest.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Gnads on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:24pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:23pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:15pm:

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:13pm:
So....all the Dentists in the World will be lining up to be your hangman.  Okay.



Aussie - I want you to volunteer to be the hangman -
I want you to be a man for once.


I am not a Dentist, Bobby.


And sometimes your not the "man" either.




Don't worry - I'm going to change Aussie.


;D Best of luck

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:28pm

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:35pm:
;D Best of luck



There is even hope for Aussie.  :)

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Aussie on Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:33pm

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:28pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:35pm:
;D Best of luck



There is even hope for Aussie.  :)


Ain't gonna happen, Bobby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcSlcNfThUA

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:39pm

Aussie wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:33pm:

Bobby. wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 8:28pm:

Gnads wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:35pm:
;D Best of luck



There is even hope for Aussie.  :)


Ain't gonna happen, Bobby.



It won't happen over night but it will happen because I

know you will respond to well constructed arguments.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Valkie on Sep 1st, 2018 at 9:26am
Still No one has responded and named all the criminals who have re-offended after being executed.

At the very least it stops re-offenders.


Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Sep 1st, 2018 at 9:30am

Valkie wrote on Sep 1st, 2018 at 9:26am:
Still No one has responded and named all the criminals who have re-offended after being executed.

At the very least it stops re-offenders.



One of the worst -

Adrian Ernest Bayley




Adrian Ernest Bayley pleaded guilty to Meagher's rape and murder in April 2013. He was sentenced to life imprisonment with a 35-year non-parole period.

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by PZ547 on Sep 1st, 2018 at 10:35am

Jasin wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:26pm:
You are all missing the point really.

State sanctioned execution might work in some nations, sometimes it doesn't.

But here in Australia - it would not work at all.
In fact, it would make this country worse.

Understand that Australia is different, although many here try to live it much like other parts of the world.

Like the joke: How do you kill an Aussie?
You leave them alone and they'll do it themselves.

So with that said, we would not have to execute.
We are a nation of SUICIDE (we gotta go overseas for war and for other nations for starters).

Isolate them - socially, environmentally and more ...and they'll kill themselves (like the cowards they are).
Even now, with Australia being the highest ratio of drug addicts (self destruction) in the world, per population. We are well on the way anyway.

Isolation was what failed the Aborigines and it would still do the same to anyone, today. Look around and you'll see what happens to people, when they have no-one left. It's the loneliness that's the killer.

Name and Shame and let isolationism do the rest.



You consistently write a good post -- underrated posts for the most part

however, if we're to take you literally, it would require at least one human per crim, to ensure their isolation.  So it wouldn't be isolation at all.  Not to mention all the do-gooders who'd drive kombi vans out to the Isolation Flats to give succour to the supposedly isolated crims.  Already becoming too complicated

so, cheaper, swifter and more satisfying to simply kill them.  As to means of their elimination, I'm happy with something humane, although others would go for a painful death to be administered

just as long as they're gone, preferably before they've been able to breed more of themselves

Title: Re: this makes me want the Death Penalty back
Post by Bobby on Sep 2nd, 2018 at 6:26pm

PZ547 wrote on Sep 1st, 2018 at 10:35am:

Jasin wrote on Aug 31st, 2018 at 7:26pm:
You are all missing the point really.

State sanctioned execution might work in some nations, sometimes it doesn't.

But here in Australia - it would not work at all.
In fact, it would make this country worse.

Understand that Australia is different, although many here try to live it much like other parts of the world.

Like the joke: How do you kill an Aussie?
You leave them alone and they'll do it themselves.

So with that said, we would not have to execute.
We are a nation of SUICIDE (we gotta go overseas for war and for other nations for starters).

Isolate them - socially, environmentally and more ...and they'll kill themselves (like the cowards they are).
Even now, with Australia being the highest ratio of drug addicts (self destruction) in the world, per population. We are well on the way anyway.

Isolation was what failed the Aborigines and it would still do the same to anyone, today. Look around and you'll see what happens to people, when they have no-one left. It's the loneliness that's the killer.

Name and Shame and let isolationism do the rest.



You consistently write a good post -- underrated posts for the most part

however, if we're to take you literally, it would require at least one human per crim, to ensure their isolation.  So it wouldn't be isolation at all.  Not to mention all the do-gooders who'd drive kombi vans out to the Isolation Flats to give succour to the supposedly isolated crims.  Already becoming too complicated

so, cheaper, swifter and more satisfying to simply kill them.  As to means of their elimination, I'm happy with something humane, although others would go for a painful death to be administered

just as long as they're gone, preferably before they've been able to breed more of themselves



So you believe it's inherited?

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