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Message started by 56 44 on Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:31pm

Title: Not another one surely
Post by 56 44 on Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:31pm
Another one

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/victorian-nationals-mp-to-face-fraud-trial/ar-BBNTody?ocid=spartandhp


Goodness me

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by Bam on Oct 4th, 2018 at 6:35pm
He's not been convicted yet, so he's innocent until proven guilty. Still not a good look, not good at all.

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by juliar on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:08am
The Polly Waffle VIRUS is excited. Is a Waffle Tsunami in the offing ? This happens when Polly Waffle gets excited about FAKE NEWS.

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:20am

juliar wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:08am:
The Polly Waffle VIRUS is excited. Is a Waffle Tsunami in the offing ? This happens when Polly Waffle gets excited about FAKE NEWS.


"Victorian Nationals MP Tim McTurdy will have to convince voters to re-elect him and a jury he is innocent after being committed to stand trial on allegations of a near-decade-old dodgy real estate deal."

To be fair, most real estate deals are dodgy.


Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by juliar on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:35am
The Village Idiot Gecko Troll VIRUS is at it again with his neurotic childish attention seeking rot.



greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:

juliar wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:08am:
The Polly Waffle VIRUS is excited. Is a Waffle Tsunami in the offing ? This happens when Polly Waffle gets excited about FAKE NEWS.


"Victorian Nationals MP Tim McTurdy will have to convince voters to re-elect him and a jury he is innocent after being committed to stand trial on allegations of a near-decade-old dodgy real estate deal."

To be fair, most real estate deals are dodgy.


Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by Bam on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:37am

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
"Victorian Nationals MP Tim McTurdy will have to convince voters to re-elect him and a jury he is innocent after being committed to stand trial on allegations of a near-decade-old dodgy real estate deal."

To be fair, most real estate deals are dodgy.

This isn't a matter of a real estate seller neglecting to tell a buyer about the leaky plumbing.

"It's alleged McCurdy, 55, sold two dairy farms in 2009, wrongly using former colleague Andrew Gilmour's real estate agency's name, collecting $269,000 in commissions... Prosecutors argue McCurdy wrongly used Mr Gilmour's agency letterheads during the sales without his knowledge or permission."

The matter has not gone to trial and until that does, he is entitled to the presumption of innocence.

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:41am

Bam wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:37am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:20am:
"Victorian Nationals MP Tim McTurdy will have to convince voters to re-elect him and a jury he is innocent after being committed to stand trial on allegations of a near-decade-old dodgy real estate deal."

To be fair, most real estate deals are dodgy.

This isn't a matter of a real estate seller neglecting to tell a buyer about the leaky plumbing.

"It's alleged McCurdy, 55, sold two dairy farms in 2009, wrongly using former colleague Andrew Gilmour's real estate agency's name, collecting $269,000 in commissions... Prosecutors argue McCurdy wrongly used Mr Gilmour's agency letterheads during the sales without his knowledge or permission."

The matter has not gone to trial and until that does, he is entitled to the presumption of innocence.


Yep, that sounds dodgy alright.


Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by juliar on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:42am
As usual the Polly Waffle Virus Fake News amounts to very little as the bloke has stood down from the Front Bench.  If the court case goes bad then a new candidate will step in to hold the seat at the election. But then the Lefty Polly Waffle VIRUS specializes in FAKE NEWS.

In any case what with the Red Shirts and Black African terrorists running riot the Andrews imposter Labor Govt is already on its last legs.




Victorian Nationals MP Tim McCurdy resigns from frontbench
SAMANTHA HUTCHINSON VICTORIAN STATE POLITICAL WRITER 2:28PM MARCH 13, 2018


Victorian Shadow Minister for Regional Development Tim McCurdy, centre, has stood down after being charged by Victoria Police. Picture: Mike Dugdale

A Victorian Nationals MP has resigned from the frontbench after Victoria Police charged him with a number of alleged offences relating to property sales in 2009.

Ovens Valley MP Tim McCurdy today said he would hand over responsibilities as opposition spokesman for sport, veterans, gaming and liquor regulation, in anticipation of the matters being heard in court.

Police have charged the MP with four counts of making a false document, four counts of use a false document, attempt to obtain property by deception and obtain property by deception.

The charges relate to an alleged fraud in 2009 which occurred while Mr McCurdy worked as a real estate agent and before he had Mr McCurdy assumed office.

Mr McCurdy has forcefully denied the claims.

“I am innocent of these allegations and I await the opportunity to defend myself in court and clear my name,” Mr McCurdy said.

“As I prepare to have these matters heard in court, I am today stepping down from my Shadow Ministry responsibilities.”

He will appear in Shepparton Magistrates Court on April 24.

Victoria Police last year confirmed they were investigating Mr McCurdy following complaints he forged documents to profit from two land sales.

At the time, he was alleged to have falsified a company letterhead to secure sales commissions worth about $375,000 while working as a real estate agent.

Mr McCurdy has stated in the past that he resolved the dispute with the claimant, who was his former employer, through private mediation.

The announcement is a blow for the Victorian Nationals and comes less than six months after its Morwell MP Russell Northe resigned from the party and became an independent, as he seeks treatment for mental health and gambling issues.

Opposition leader Matthew Guy has unveiled a frontbench shake up in the wake of Mr McCurdy’s announcement.

Gippsland South MP Danny O’Brien will join Shadow Cabinet and take over responsibilities for Mr McMcCurdy’s portfolios of sport, veterans, gaming and liquor regulation.

Mr Guy has also promoted upper house member Margaret Fitzherbert to chair the opposition’s Victorian Population Policy Taskforce.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/state-politics/victorian-nationals-mp-tim-mccurdy-resigns-from-frontbench/news-story/8f10415620fc76e492e106ca8315d347

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by juliar on Oct 5th, 2018 at 11:57am
it all stinks of GetUp! dirty trumped up politics ahead of the Vic election Labor will lose.




Victorian Nationals MP to face fraud trial
Kaitlyn Offer OCTOBER 4 2018 - 6:21PM


Mr McCurdy said the trial will not derail his bid for re-election in the seat of Ovens Valley

Victorian Nationals MP Tim McCurdy will have to convince voters to re-elect him and a jury he is innocent after being committed to stand trial on allegations of a near-decade-old dodgy real estate deal.

The Ovens Valley MP was committed to stand trial on Thursday after a two-day hearing to determine the veracity of evidence against him.


Real estate agent Andrew Gilmour told Mr McCurdy to 'man up' ahead of this week's hearing in Shepparton, the court heard.

It's alleged McCurdy, 55, sold two dairy farms in 2009, wrongly using former colleague Andrew Gilmour's real estate agency's name, collecting $269,000 in commissions. He plans to plead not guilty.

He is due to face a County Court directions hearing on November 2 on 10 fraud-related charges, three weeks before the November 24 state election in which he plans to recontest his safe seat.

"Most people understand this coincidence of it rolling out in an election year is not such a coincidence, but these things happen," McCurdy said outside court.

"There will be certain people trying to put (voters) off, but I have faith in the people of the Ovens Valley that understand the situation as it stands at the moment and we now get an opportunity to have my say a bit further down the track."

Prosecutors argue McCurdy wrongly used Mr Gilmour's agency letterheads during the sales without his knowledge or permission.

But McCurdy's lawyers told the court Mr Gilmour had to authorise payment of the property sale commission and his agency knowingly transferred the cash to the defendant.

In the witness box Mr Gilmour at times contradicted evidence from his former receptionist and admitting knowledge of the sales in 2009.

Mr Gilmour first took his complaint to Consumer Affairs Victoria in 2014. It was referred to police and almost four years later, charges were laid.

The court was told the men were neighbours and worked together on-and-off for several years, and were colleagues when one of the farms went up for sale in 2008.

Mr Gilmour ran an auction for the property as McCurdy was unlicensed to do so, but it did not result in a sale.

A short time later their employer, PGG Wrightson, closed its Australian operations, selling two offices to Mr Gilmour, who subsequently opened Gilmour and Company in 2009 while McCurdy worked for another firm.

Mr Gilmour's former receptionist Kally Morey on Wednesday told the court McCurdy asked for a letterhead during one of his regular visits to the office and she handed it over.

But on Thursday, Mr Gilmour said McCurdy was never in the office.

The parties reached an undisclosed civil settlement in 2014.

McCurdy holds his safe regional seat with a 16.6 per cent margin.

The Nationals say he will continue to work hard for constituents until the matter is resolved.

"Advice from Tim's legal representation before this week's committal hearing was that charges of this nature would usually proceed to trial, and that is the outcome Tim had expected," the party said in a statement after the court decision.

https://www.theherald.com.au/story/5683611/victorian-nationals-mp-to-face-fraud-trial/?cs=7

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by 56 44 on Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:22pm
https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/amp.news.com.au/entertainment/tv/morning-shows/australia-baffled-by-liberal-mps-exorbitant-internet-bills/news-story/f945caad6b1708ebf8f13bd5fc246721

Goodness me  :-?

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by Vic on Oct 5th, 2018 at 3:43pm
The gogomobile the Victorian LNP use to transport their MPs around to the Lobster Cave and Mafia meetings can now be safely traded in on a 50cc Honda Step through

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by lee on Oct 5th, 2018 at 4:18pm
Any news on the 21 Victorian ALP MP's who rorted the system?

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by Vic on Oct 5th, 2018 at 5:55pm

lee wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 4:18pm:
Any news on the 21 Victorian ALP MP's who rorted the system?



They most probably faced the Justice System and were sentenced accordingly.    I am sure the LNP will be quids in though to  win the Nov election, as long as there are enough polling booths outside the Lobster Cave and the Mafia run the election.   I tremble with anticipation at Matthew Guy being our next Premier

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by philperth2010 on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:03pm

lee wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 4:18pm:
Any news on the 21 Victorian ALP MP's who rorted the system?


No....Do you have a reference???

:-? :-? :-?

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by greggerypeccary on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:35pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:03pm:

lee wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 4:18pm:
Any news on the 21 Victorian ALP MP's who rorted the system?


No....Do you have a reference???

:-? :-? :-?


Seems he doesn't.


Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by Dnarever on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:48pm
Where is pony boy to tell us that an alpha male can use whatever letterhead he damn well likes ?

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by lee on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:49pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:03pm:
Do you have a reference???



"21 Labor MPs misused taxpayer funds for 2014 election campaign"

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/21-labor-mps-misused-taxpayer-funds-for-2014-election-campaign-20180321-p4z5du.html

;)

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by Bam on Oct 6th, 2018 at 5:21pm

philperth2010 wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:03pm:

lee wrote on Oct 5th, 2018 at 4:18pm:
Any news on the 21 Victorian ALP MP's who rorted the system?


No....Do you have a reference???

:-? :-? :-?

Ignore it. He's attempting to deflect the discussion away from the Coalition MP's alleged misconduct.

Title: Re: Not another one surely
Post by lee on Oct 6th, 2018 at 5:31pm

Bam wrote on Oct 6th, 2018 at 5:21pm:
Ignore it. He's attempting to deflect the discussion away from the Coalition MP's alleged misconduct.



I thought seeing it is about Victorian state based politics, not federal politics, the playing field should be even. ;)

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