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Message started by AiA on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:18pm

Title: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by AiA on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:18pm

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"The differences we found are consistent with other research that suggests that vegetarians are less psychologically well-adjusted than non-vegetarians. The implications of the present results for understanding relationships between dietary habits and well-being are discussed."


https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/03670244.2018.1536657?fbclid=IwAR1AoHMYt5k9eaNWOveyAySR2_KpZg-_ZlOqIukbjhRIGmX1LqkUXLDUwHA&journalCode=gefn20

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by AiA on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:19pm
So what comes first: the person or choices in eating?

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by Yadda on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:41pm



My own personal experience [i gave up eating meat, about 40 years ago] [i eat fish occasionally], was that [about 12 months later] i felt noticeably calmer, mentally, after i gave up eating meat.

I do remember thinking [some years ago], that on reflection, my opinion was, that eating meat seemed to act as a stimulant, upon my 'physiology'.

But yes, that is just a subjective opinion, about the lifestyle change i made.




Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by AiA on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:54pm

Yadda wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:41pm:



My own personal experience [i gave up eating meat, about 40 years ago] [i eat fish occasionally], was that [about 12 months later] i felt noticeably calmer, mentally, after i gave up eating meat.

I do remember thinking [some years ago], that on reflection, my opinion was, that eating meat seemed to act as a stimulant, upon my 'physiology'.

But yes, that is just a subjective opinion, about the lifestyle change i made.


If your posts are a reflection of your mental health yadda, well, enuf said  :D

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by Yadda on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:58pm

AiA wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:54pm:

Yadda wrote on Oct 24th, 2018 at 10:41pm:



My own personal experience [i gave up eating meat, about 40 years ago] [i eat fish occasionally], was that [about 12 months later] i felt noticeably calmer, mentally, after i gave up eating meat.

I do remember thinking [some years ago], that on reflection, my opinion was, that eating meat seemed to act as a stimulant, upon my 'physiology'.

But yes, that is just a subjective opinion, about the lifestyle change i made.


If your posts are a reflection of your mental health yadda, well, enuf said  :D



I would have never of guessed, that you may have said something like that.

/sarc off

:)



Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by The_Barnacle on Oct 25th, 2018 at 9:32pm

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Multilevel modeling analyses  found that vegetarians  reported lower self-esteem, lower psychological adjustment, less meaning in life, and more negative moods than semi-vegetarians  and omnivores . Vegetarians also reported more negative social experiences than omnivores and semi-vegetarians.


I would expect that it was the mental state that came first.
To become ideological about the food you eat suggests an insecurity

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by aquascoot on Oct 26th, 2018 at 7:45am
people can be divided into the big 5 personality traits and there is significant variation amongst people in terms of their temperament.

women are about 1/2 a standard deviation different from men , say, in terms of their agreeableness and their proneness to negative neurotic thought.
agreeableness breaks down into compassion and politeness.

in the middle that means most men and women are more similar then they are different but at the extremes, nearly all the very anxious and very compassionate people will be female and nearly all the very cold and cruel and non compassionate people will be male (the reason why male prison populations are always larger).

so women at the extreme end of the distribution may be very anxious, very prone to negative thoughts and very compassionate.
if you took such a person to an abbatoir, it would be a nightmare for them.

are they mentally ill?

they are probably more prone to anxiety but its really just a temperamental issue

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Oct 26th, 2018 at 7:56am
Another thread trying to demonise a group of people

Spot

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by aquascoot on Oct 26th, 2018 at 9:35am

The_Barnacle wrote on Oct 25th, 2018 at 9:32pm:

Quote:
Multilevel modeling analyses  found that vegetarians  reported lower self-esteem, lower psychological adjustment, less meaning in life, and more negative moods than semi-vegetarians  and omnivores . Vegetarians also reported more negative social experiences than omnivores and semi-vegetarians.


I would expect that it was the mental state that came first.
To become ideological about the food you eat suggests an insecurity



many many societies have taboo's about various foods .
halal, pork, the rituals in the jewish faith.
there are probably very good reasons from a darwinian perspective to regulate food ingestion.
morning sickness in women is probably heightened sensitivity to prevent intoxicating a baby.
the first thing babies do is put stuff in their mouth to explore the world.
and a rotten food induces a disgust reaction which is a particular horrible facial expression and vomitting.
a corpse , for example would induce this reaction and with good reason
it may well harbour disease.
so it pays to be somewhat "insecure"

Title: Re: Mental Health of Vegetarians
Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 26th, 2018 at 9:49am
So... which is the chicken and which the egg?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ad9JhsPGKio

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