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Message started by Agnes on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 11:08pm

Title: Canberra fires-
Post by Agnes on Nov 2nd, 2018 at 11:08pm
wondering how cods is faring- if she is safe?


https://www.9news.com.au/2018/11/02/19/22/canberra-bushfires-danger-residents-watch-and-act-alert

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 6:21am
She'll make it... who started the fires?

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by cods on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:00am
thanks agnes    not a good start to the season at all... the suburb of Kambah is on high alert and a friend who lives there their home backs right onto grassland...they were called home yesterday....I live in one of the worst hit suburbs in the last fires...  so its fingers crossed.we got the smoke and got the smell would be nerve wracking for those who lost someone in 2003......

we ended up with rain in a wild storm where the rain goes sideways   only lasted about 15 min....kinda weird.

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by cods on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:04am
I have my hose ready grap...lol....

no news on how the fires started  but 147 acres involved. no houses damaged..or animals lost.

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:15am
I think they were started by a burnt out car out in the forrest!

Dodgy insurance job?

Owner will have questions to answer regardless I suspect!

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by cods on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:38am
oh didnt hear that red.... we have had some hot days so thought anythin g is possible...the burbs affected are in a bit of a valley I think   that makes it even more dangerous .. and those bloody gum trees...every home must have one.....gggggggggggggggggr

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Agnes on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am

cods wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:38am:
oh didnt hear that red.... we have had some hot days so thought anythin g is possible...the burbs affected are in a bit of a valley I think   that makes it even more dangerous .. and those bloody gum trees...every home must have one.....gggggggggggggggggr



I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane

Glad you are ok cods - be very careful- fire is very fast

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:12pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am:
I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane


Because it is simply not possible to do enough load reduction burns in heavily forested areas like Canberra. Also, fuel reduction burns have a nasty habit of turning into bush fires if the weather turns bad.

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Agnes on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:21pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am:
I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane


Because it is simply not possible to do enough load reduction burns in heavily forested areas like Canberra. Also, fuel reduction burns have a nasty habit of turning into bush fires if the weather turns bad.


clear the bush

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by cods on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:32pm

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am:
I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane


Because it is simply not possible to do enough load reduction burns in heavily forested areas like Canberra. Also, fuel reduction burns have a nasty habit of turning into bush fires if the weather turns bad.



seriously barnicle   we have a green/labor govt in ACT.. and they see nothing wrong with knocking down huge tracks of trees  even to the Avenue of tree  known as Northbourne Ave  the entry to Canberra for many many years    for a light railway... ::) ::)   and in other parts of Canberra to accommodate developers....

getting rid of trees is not the slightest problem...

but if I wanted the one that overhangs my backyard  looks perilous in high wind... I am told to suck it up...we do not cut down trees... we are Green remember.....

if you could have seen the huge piles of shredded trees all parts of a forest  here there and everywhere in this town   you wouldnt be saying that.....

as they chop them down they shred them in the hope no one notices...

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Bobby on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 5:03pm
Hi Cods,
if you're worried you need to get an approved bush fire shelter:

https://www.abcb.gov.au/-/media/Files/Resources/Education-Training/Performance-Standard-Private-Bushfire-Shelters.pdf


Be careful of people selling non approved ones:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocAdjDbNHuM

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Redmond Neck on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 5:14pm

cods wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:32pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am:
I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane


Because it is simply not possible to do enough load reduction burns in heavily forested areas like Canberra. Also, fuel reduction burns have a nasty habit of turning into bush fires if the weather turns bad.



seriously barnicle   we have a green/labor govt in ACT.. and they see nothing wrong with knocking down huge tracks of trees  even to the Avenue of tree  known as Northbourne Ave  the entry to Canberra for many many years    for a light railway... ::) ::)   and in other parts of Canberra to accommodate developers....

getting rid of trees is not the slightest problem...

but if I wanted the one that overhangs my backyard  looks perilous in high wind... I am told to suck it up...we do not cut down trees... we are Green remember.....

if you could have seen the huge piles of shredded trees all parts of a forest  here there and everywhere in this town   you wouldnt be saying that.....

as they chop them down they shred them in the hope no one notices...


You silly old  fool cods this started miles away from the suburbs,

I am sure the govt does as much pre-summer burn offs as would be done by the Libs but there is only so much that can be done.

Keep the politics out of it is my advice!



Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Agnes on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 6:18pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 5:14pm:

cods wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 4:32pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am:
I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane


Because it is simply not possible to do enough load reduction burns in heavily forested areas like Canberra. Also, fuel reduction burns have a nasty habit of turning into bush fires if the weather turns bad.



seriously barnicle   we have a green/labor govt in ACT.. and they see nothing wrong with knocking down huge tracks of trees  even to the Avenue of tree  known as Northbourne Ave  the entry to Canberra for many many years    for a light railway... ::) ::)   and in other parts of Canberra to accommodate developers....

getting rid of trees is not the slightest problem...

but if I wanted the one that overhangs my backyard  looks perilous in high wind... I am told to suck it up...we do not cut down trees... we are Green remember.....

if you could have seen the huge piles of shredded trees all parts of a forest  here there and everywhere in this town   you wouldnt be saying that.....

as they chop them down they shred them in the hope no one notices...


You silly old  fool cods this started miles away from the suburbs,

I am sure the govt does as much pre-summer burn offs as would be done by the Libs but there is only so much that can be done.

Keep the politics out of it is my advice!

and the insults

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by The_Barnacle on Nov 4th, 2018 at 10:43am

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:21pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 12:12pm:

Agnes wrote on Nov 3rd, 2018 at 11:49am:
I had a look at the fire load around canberra  ( thick bush) and why havent they cleared the bush of undergrowth and fire load- back burning / grade firebreaks- what is wrong with these ppl- every year can is hit by fire- insane


Because it is simply not possible to do enough load reduction burns in heavily forested areas like Canberra. Also, fuel reduction burns have a nasty habit of turning into bush fires if the weather turns bad.


clear the bush


How about, if you choose to live next to the bush, you accept the risks

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 4th, 2018 at 11:14am
the govt moved all the poor people to tuggers because thats the area thats prone to fires

Spot

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:32pm
The bush is natural. Undergrowth, branches, and dead foliage is natural in the bush.

What is unnatural is people building their homes in such areas because its bush, and then whining about the bush.

The whiners should move to the Nullarbor where their desire for zero fire risk will be granted.


Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:44pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
The bush is natural. Undergrowth, branches, and dead foliage is natural in the bush.

What is unnatural is people building their homes in such areas because its bush, and then whining about the bush.


Like i said the govt moved all the poor ppl out there from the city.

Spot

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:45pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:44pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
The bush is natural. Undergrowth, branches, and dead foliage is natural in the bush.

What is unnatural is people building their homes in such areas because its bush, and then whining about the bush.


Like i said the govt moved all the poor ppl out there from the city.

Spot


Cods and Agnes?

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by cods on Nov 4th, 2018 at 2:05pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:45pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:44pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 12:32pm:
The bush is natural. Undergrowth, branches, and dead foliage is natural in the bush.

What is unnatural is people building their homes in such areas because its bush, and then whining about the bush.


Like i said the govt moved all the poor ppl out there from the city.

Spot


Cods and Agnes?



well Canberra is called the BUSH CAPITAL..

sadly the govt did nothing for me though.... :(

how did you get them to do everything for you un4??>.. :) :) :) did you plead diminished responsibilities... :)

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:35pm

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 2:05pm:
sadly the govt did nothing for me though....


They provide you with free taxpayer money. What more could you want? Free BMW or Mercedes with chauffer?

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:41pm

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 2:05pm:
sadly the govt did nothing for me though....


They provide you with free taxpayer money. What more could you want? Free BMW or Mercedes with chauffer?


Cods paid into her pension all her working life just like everyone else. its not "free money" and its not "taxpayer funded" unless the taxpayer is the person receiving it.

Spot

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Laugh till you cry on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:49pm

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 2:05pm:
sadly the govt did nothing for me though....


They provide you with free taxpayer money. What more could you want? Free BMW or Mercedes with chauffer?


Cods paid into her pension all her working life just like everyone else. its not "free money" and its not "taxpayer funded" unless the taxpayer is the person receiving it.

Spot


You don't pay into the pension. It is free taxpayer money.

Title: Re: Canberra fires-
Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Nov 5th, 2018 at 7:58am

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:49pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:41pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 3:35pm:

cods wrote on Nov 4th, 2018 at 2:05pm:
sadly the govt did nothing for me though....


They provide you with free taxpayer money. What more could you want? Free BMW or Mercedes with chauffer?


Cods paid into her pension all her working life just like everyone else. its not "free money" and its not "taxpayer funded" unless the taxpayer is the person receiving it.

Spot


You don't pay into the pension. It is free taxpayer money.


Yes you do pay into the pension. Menzies brought it in i think. They renamed the specific tax a few times but its still in there. Read up on how the pension is supposed to work.

Spot

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