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Message started by Ajax on Nov 5th, 2018 at 9:49pm

Title: Melbourne Cup
Post by Ajax on Nov 5th, 2018 at 9:49pm
Ok has any got any tips, I know we have at least one horse expert on here.

If you're wondering I always place a few bets once a year on the cup at a barbecue.

But the bottom line is I haven't a clue about the horses and just choose the numbers.

I'm going to finish of the last few episodes of Line of Duty so I will come back tomorrow.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Agnes on Nov 6th, 2018 at 8:47am
Read the form guide and hang around at the race track especially around the bar/s-  I have picked up a good tip or two that way- at least one winner-be a barfly  ;D

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by cods on Nov 6th, 2018 at 8:50am
good luck everyone.... is it raining in Melb? 

its raining Canberra

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:00am
Heavy rain intermittently in Melbourne today, so pick a mud runner.

The Conquistadors tip: Yucatan (Lloyd Williams). Although that is the favourite so will put the moz on it.


Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Agnes on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:02am
back everything that is over 50/1-

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Ajax on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:24am

Agnes wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:02am:
back everything that is over 50/1-


LOL I did that the one and only time I went to the dogs, first race 1:100 came in but I didn't have a bet we were too late.

Other 8 races there was always a dog at big odds always put $5 on it but nothing.

Just went and got the paper will study soon.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Ajax on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:25am

Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:00am:
Heavy rain intermittently in Melbourne today, so pick a mud runner.

The Conquistadors tip: Yucatan (Lloyd Williams). Although that is the favourite so will put the moz on it.


ok thanks

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by cods on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:27am
how many mud runners in the race???...if its heavy rain  it will be very slow..

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:52am
It's raining cats and dogs here at the moment ... could be minor flooding about the place, but I don't know which horses are the best in very wet conditions.

One thing for sure, it will be a miserable day at the races today.  :(

https://youtu.be/JMC3QwMtQk0

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Agnes on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:57am

Captain Nemo wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:52am:
It's raining cats and dogs here at the moment ... could be minor flooding about the place, but I don't know which horses are the best in very wet conditions.

One thing for sure, it will be a miserable day at the races today.  :(

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqypaqLEfM8

especially for the horses-

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 6th, 2018 at 10:10am
That's a sobering point Agnes.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Gordon on Nov 6th, 2018 at 10:13am
https://youtu.be/stYJvqgshRo

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Captain Nemo on Nov 6th, 2018 at 10:55am
The track is rated as "Heavy 8" ... pretty wet.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:40pm
And thats it I am done. After what happened to thecliffsofmoher I want zero to do horse racing anymore.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Agnes on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:44pm
say nup to the cup- and i do

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:47pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:44pm:
say nup to the cup- and i do




Yep, thats my thing. Its one thing that a freak accident occurs as the horse runs. By thecliffsofmoher was clearly seen to be agitated and sweaty before the race. And yet no one did a bloody thing about it.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by TheFunPolice on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:47pm

Agnes wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 9:02am:
back everything that is over 50/1-

Strategy, COOL!
;D

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:59pm

Another horse dies for human greed.

The Cliffsofmoher   :'(

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 2:59pm:
Another horse dies for human greed.

The Cliffsofmoher   :'(




I bought up my point from earlier in this thread about it being seen to be agitated and sweaty before the race. Someone responded half the field was. My feeling is that if it was a race of humans and half the field was as agitated as the Melb cup field the race would have been postponed or cancelled.


Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Gordon on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Ajax on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:11pm
Shame about The Cliffsofmoher.

The boss spent $11 total which $3 of those was for a win on cross counter she got back $36.

I got peanuts and danced to the music box.... :-[

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:15pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.


Same - I used to like it.

I've even been to a few Melbourne Cups.

I won't even watch it on TV now, though.

I'm glad I didn't watch today's race.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Ajax on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:16pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.


Most elite athletes end up crippled (arthritis, injuries etc ) in old age.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Gordon on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:20pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.


Like greyhound racing, the successful animals are generally cared for beautifully and no doubt they love what they do. Even the whipping of horses is a bit over blown.

The dirty secret is whay happens to the unsuccessful animals. For every 1 successful animal 100 end up as pet food. That cost is too high.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:21pm

Ajax wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:16pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.


Most elite athletes end up crippled (arthritis, injuries etc ) in old age.




And being humans they have choice.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:21pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.


Like greyhound racing, the successful animals are generally cared for beautifully and no doubt they love what they do. Even the whipping of horses is a bit over blown.

The dirty secret is whay happens to the unsuccessful animals. For every 1 successful animal 100 end up as pet food. That cost is too high.



Indeed,

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by xeej on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:22pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.

How do these nags rate internationally.
How does Winx rate internationally, fair to middle I would say, still, good entertainment, I don't know how our multi cultural society feel about such events, gambling and drinking parties that stop a nation, the wogs don't mind but others would, like Muslims.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:23pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.

How do these nags rate internationally.
How does Winx rate internationally, fair to middle I would say, still, good entertainment, I don't know how our multi cultural society feel about such events, gambling and drinking parties that stop a nation, the wogs don't mind but others would, like Muslims.



Ok, anyone with a brain wish to contribute?

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bobby on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:23pm
So what happened?
I saw a horse pull up & the announcer said there was a tragedy.
Was a horse put down?

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:23pm:
So what happened?
I saw a horse pull up & the announcer said there was a tragedy.
Was a horse put down?


Yes.

Another horse has been killed in the name of human greed.

'The Cliffsofmoher'

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:25pm
Yes. Fractured shoulder.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by xeej on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:28pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:23pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:09pm:

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:07pm:
I don't support horse racing.

Using an animals meat for sustenance is one thing but not entertainment.

I'd rather see some of the slappers in ugly dresses do a lap of the track.




I have to admit I used to like it, e.g. love Winx, but I think the horses pay too much of a price for the greed of their owners. Even when they aren't racing they suffer. For example, I heard that Makybe Diva is basically a cripple these days because she was over raced.

How do these nags rate internationally.
How does Winx rate internationally, fair to middle I would say, still, good entertainment, I don't know how our multi cultural society feel about such events, gambling and drinking parties that stop a nation, the wogs don't mind but others would, like Muslims.



Ok, anyone with a brain wish to contribute?

I don't even think Phar lap did that well overseas, but still a hero horse around these parts.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bobby on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:30pm
The poor horse.


https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/superracing/the-cliffsofmoher-breaks-down-in-2018-melbourne-cup/news-story/c92024cb643a1750786a2ffeec784333


The CliffsofMoher breaks down in 2018 Melbourne Cup with vets forced to euthanise star galloper
Russell Gould and Lauren Wood, Herald Sun
17 minutes ago

THE Melbourne Cup has been marred by the death of star UK galloper The CliffsofMoher.

The Aidan O’Brien-trained runner broke down just after crossing the post the first time — just 1000m after the start.

It’s believed The CliffsofMoher suffered a fractured right shoulder. Vets quickly attended to the Irish runner — ridden by star English jockey Ryan Moore — but nothing could be done to save the five-year-old stallion.

FINAL ORDER: WHERE EVERY RUNNER FINISHED

CROSS COUNTER WINS MELBOURNE CUP

Vets were forced to euthanise the stricken horse. Connections immediately knew the severity of the situation.

In a statement released by Victoria Racing, the sad news was confirmed.

“It is with sadness that we confirm that The Cliffsofmoher had to be humanely euthanised after sustaining a fractured right shoulder during the running of the Melbourne Cup at Flemington,” Executive General Manager Jamie Stier said.

“The horse received immediate veterinary care, however it was unable to be saved due to the nature of the injury sustained.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Agnes on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:35pm
:'(

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by xeej on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm
They shoot horses don't they....

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bojack Horseman on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
They shoot horses don't they....




Not at the track.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by xeej on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:52pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
They shoot horses don't they....




Not at the track.

I think that was a song title or something, well its off to the glue factory for that nag, sorry, I do like horses, especially Fury and Hero (Mr. Walkers horse).

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Gordon on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:57pm
The owners should have to eat the horse.

Waste not.....

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by Bobby on Nov 6th, 2018 at 4:05pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm:

Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:42pm:
They shoot horses don't they....


Not at the track.



Not true -
they surround the horse with curtains &
shoot it right between the eyes.
The horse dies instantly.

Title: Re: Melbourne Cup
Post by xeej on Nov 6th, 2018 at 4:07pm

Gordon wrote on Nov 6th, 2018 at 3:57pm:
The owners should have to eat the horse.

Waste not.....

Horse meat is ok, I don't know if I could eat my own horse though, then again if I was hungry enough with no McDonalds within cooee, perhaps.

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