The Grievance Studies affair was a hoax that has recently come to light in the media. It was created by three academics who intentionally published bogus papers in leading journals relating to culture, race, gender and sexuality between 2017 and 2018. Out of the 20 papers they attempted to publish, four were accepted and  published, three were accepted and yet to be published and six were under review. A summary of the affair can be found below. They are also trying to release a documentary called "The Grievance Studies affair":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grievance_Studies_affair

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVk9a5Jcd1k

I posted about this not long ago. ‘Mein Kampf’ was rewritten as a feminist manifesto and accepted.

Sorry Gordon, I couldn't find a thread or post on the Affair so I figured it hadn't been done yet.

Gordon wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 11:36am:

I posted about this not long ago. ‘Mein Kampf’ was rewritten as a feminist manifesto and accepted.

..by who?

This is stupid.  If it's an academic paper, even the original Mein Kampf should be allowed.

If that's not the place for a free exchange of ideas, where is?

It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded.

17 out of 18 professors are Marxists, no?

Term Dog wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 5:50pm:

It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded.

The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like.

Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself.

You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced.

But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame.

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 6:08pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 5:50pm: It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded. The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like. Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself. You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced. But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame.

Your factually wrong on several accounts.


Firstly comparing academic literature to forums and Facebook is beyond stupid.


Secondly Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc deplatform all significant channels of right wing though. This can be backed up.

Also you may have missed but most of my life I have been a leftist, I could no longer be a part of it for many reasons you would be interested in but the main reason is the violent reaction the left have to shut down all opposing views with mob violence, assualt, property destruction, arson etc just because a right leaning speaker appears on a campus or private venue.

The left are the true fascists by deed consistently.  The left is too extreme for average decent people. We former leftists have not changed, the left have become violent facists that we morally can't be a part of.

You won't listen or learn tho.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 6:45pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:08pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 5:50pm: It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded. The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like. Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself. You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced. But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame. Your factually wrong on several accounts. Firstly comparing academic literature to forums and Facebook is beyond stupid. Secondly Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc deplatform all significant channels of right wing though. This can be backed up. Also you may have missed but most of my life I have been a leftist, I could no longer be a part of it for many reasons you would be interested in but the main reason is the violent reaction the left have to shut down all opposing views with mob violence, assualt, property destruction, arson etc just because a right leaning speaker appears on a campus or private venue. The left are the true fascists by deed consistently.  The left is too extreme for average decent people. We former leftists have not changed, the left have become violent facists that we morally can't be a part of. You won't listen or learn tho.

I still consider myself a leftie but what you say above is what I despise about the modern left. I just can't stand PC. Leftie crowds like Antifa make me want to puke, seeing the sore losers crying in the streets and vowing revenge after Hillary lost the US election. People being driven off Uni campuses for expressing their view on gay marriage. Lefties protesting speakers they do not agree with to the point of needing police to keep them at bay.

I did not vote on gay marriage, I have no problem with it but watching the proponents of it behave like tyrants I just couldn't as it felt like I would be agreeing with their behaviour and I did not.

It's been suggested I should now call myself a centrist but my beliefs are in the left of the past, much of the modern left are just way out on the fringe crazy.

This is a great listen, a nice long form convo with two of the guys who submitted the papers.
http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/peter-boghossian-james-lindsay

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 7:47pm:

Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:08pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 5:50pm: It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded. The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like. Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself. You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced. But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame. Your factually wrong on several accounts. Firstly comparing academic literature to forums and Facebook is beyond stupid. Secondly Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc deplatform all significant channels of right wing though. This can be backed up. Also you may have missed but most of my life I have been a leftist, I could no longer be a part of it for many reasons you would be interested in but the main reason is the violent reaction the left have to shut down all opposing views with mob violence, assualt, property destruction, arson etc just because a right leaning speaker appears on a campus or private venue. The left are the true fascists by deed consistently.  The left is too extreme for average decent people. We former leftists have not changed, the left have become violent facists that we morally can't be a part of. You won't listen or learn tho. I still consider myself a leftie but what you say above is what I despise about the modern left. I just can't stand PC. Leftie crowds like Antifa make me want to puke, seeing the sore losers crying in the streets and vowing revenge after Hillary lost the US election. People being driven off Uni campuses for expressing their view on gay marriage. Lefties protesting speakers they do not agree with to the point of needing police to keep them at bay. I did not vote on gay marriage, I have no problem with it but watching the proponents of it behave like tyrants I just couldn't as it felt like I would be agreeing with their behaviour and I did not. It's been suggested I should now call myself a centrist but my beliefs are in the left of the past, much of the modern left are just way out on the fringe crazy.

If this is a phenomenon of "the left", then why are "leftists" exposing it?

The project's authors see it as a phenomenon of gender studies. They tried a few journals and found that the pay-to-publish gender studies ones, for whatever social or economic reason, have swallowed the most kool-aid.

Describing this as "the left" misses the point entirely.

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 7:47pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:08pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 5:50pm: It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded. The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like. Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself. You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced. But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame. Your factually wrong on several accounts. Firstly comparing academic literature to forums and Facebook is beyond stupid. Secondly Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc deplatform all significant channels of right wing though. This can be backed up. Also you may have missed but most of my life I have been a leftist, I could no longer be a part of it for many reasons you would be interested in but the main reason is the violent reaction the left have to shut down all opposing views with mob violence, assualt, property destruction, arson etc just because a right leaning speaker appears on a campus or private venue. The left are the true fascists by deed consistently.  The left is too extreme for average decent people. We former leftists have not changed, the left have become violent facists that we morally can't be a part of. You won't listen or learn tho. I still consider myself a leftie but what you say above is what I despise about the modern left. I just can't stand PC. Leftie crowds like Antifa make me want to puke, seeing the sore losers crying in the streets and vowing revenge after Hillary lost the US election. People being driven off Uni campuses for expressing their view on gay marriage. Lefties protesting speakers they do not agree with to the point of needing police to keep them at bay. I did not vote on gay marriage, I have no problem with it but watching the proponents of it behave like tyrants I just couldn't as it felt like I would be agreeing with their behaviour and I did not. It's been suggested I should now call myself a centrist but my beliefs are in the left of the past, much of the modern left are just way out on the fringe crazy. If this is a phenomenon of "the left", then why are "leftists" exposing it? The project's authors see it as a phenomenon of gender studies. They tried a few journals and found that the pay-to-publish gender studies ones, for whatever social or economic reason, have swallowed the most kool-aid. Describing this as "the left" misses the point entirely.

Gender studies is quintessentially a right wing phenomena, you are such an idiot.

Term Dog wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 8:18pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 8:15pm: Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 7:47pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:08pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 5:50pm: It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded. The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like. Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself. You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced. But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame. Your factually wrong on several accounts. Firstly comparing academic literature to forums and Facebook is beyond stupid. Secondly Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc deplatform all significant channels of right wing though. This can be backed up. Also you may have missed but most of my life I have been a leftist, I could no longer be a part of it for many reasons you would be interested in but the main reason is the violent reaction the left have to shut down all opposing views with mob violence, assualt, property destruction, arson etc just because a right leaning speaker appears on a campus or private venue. The left are the true fascists by deed consistently.  The left is too extreme for average decent people. We former leftists have not changed, the left have become violent facists that we morally can't be a part of. You won't listen or learn tho. I still consider myself a leftie but what you say above is what I despise about the modern left. I just can't stand PC. Leftie crowds like Antifa make me want to puke, seeing the sore losers crying in the streets and vowing revenge after Hillary lost the US election. People being driven off Uni campuses for expressing their view on gay marriage. Lefties protesting speakers they do not agree with to the point of needing police to keep them at bay. I did not vote on gay marriage, I have no problem with it but watching the proponents of it behave like tyrants I just couldn't as it felt like I would be agreeing with their behaviour and I did not. It's been suggested I should now call myself a centrist but my beliefs are in the left of the past, much of the modern left are just way out on the fringe crazy. If this is a phenomenon of "the left", then why are "leftists" exposing it? The project's authors see it as a phenomenon of gender studies. They tried a few journals and found that the pay-to-publish gender studies ones, for whatever social or economic reason, have swallowed the most kool-aid. Describing this as "the left" misses the point entirely. Gender studies is quintessentially a right wing phenomena, you are such an idiot.

Who's Matty?

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 8:15pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 7:47pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 6:08pm: Term Dog wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 5:50pm: It proves the appaliing degradation of intellectual standards in the leftist literature. These parasitic academic  faculties in the humanities should be defunded. The problem is these days, it's not limited to the left, it's just that those on the right tend not to venture too far into academia so they use Facebook or online forums to censor the views they don't like. Or, they simply want to destroy these institutions rather than fix the problem, like yourself. You're not as bad as these little shitstains who protest speakers they don't like, but there are vast similarities.  I can't say with any certainty, but if I were a betting man, given how you post and how you dismiss so many views that differ from yours, like these protesters, I doubt you would spend the time to understand the opposing views, you just want them destroyed or silenced. But it truly is unforgivable that this happens within the walls of universities, no matter who is to blame. Your factually wrong on several accounts. Firstly comparing academic literature to forums and Facebook is beyond stupid. Secondly Google, Facebook, Twitter etc etc deplatform all significant channels of right wing though. This can be backed up. Also you may have missed but most of my life I have been a leftist, I could no longer be a part of it for many reasons you would be interested in but the main reason is the violent reaction the left have to shut down all opposing views with mob violence, assualt, property destruction, arson etc just because a right leaning speaker appears on a campus or private venue. The left are the true fascists by deed consistently.  The left is too extreme for average decent people. We former leftists have not changed, the left have become violent facists that we morally can't be a part of. You won't listen or learn tho. I still consider myself a leftie but what you say above is what I despise about the modern left. I just can't stand PC. Leftie crowds like Antifa make me want to puke, seeing the sore losers crying in the streets and vowing revenge after Hillary lost the US election. People being driven off Uni campuses for expressing their view on gay marriage. Lefties protesting speakers they do not agree with to the point of needing police to keep them at bay. I did not vote on gay marriage, I have no problem with it but watching the proponents of it behave like tyrants I just couldn't as it felt like I would be agreeing with their behaviour and I did not. It's been suggested I should now call myself a centrist but my beliefs are in the left of the past, much of the modern left are just way out on the fringe crazy. If this is a phenomenon of "the left", then why are "leftists" exposing it? The project's authors see it as a phenomenon of gender studies. They tried a few journals and found that the pay-to-publish gender studies ones, for whatever social or economic reason, have swallowed the most kool-aid. Describing this as "the left" misses the point entirely.

Because perhaps the not crazy left are as sick of bearing the insanity of the crazy left as I am. This PC side of the left with it crazy feminists, 72 genders, that want to look into the rape culture of dogs in a park to crucify the patriarchy etc needs culling.
Gender studies are not a rightwing phenomenon.

We must put an end to academics pushing the boundaries of acceptable thought.

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

We must put an end to academics pushing the boundaries of acceptable thought.

All thought is acceptable. Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Just read Clementine Ford to see mental illness masquerading as sanity.

We must put an end to academics claiming their thoughts are correct. Especially those lesbians.

Quote:

All thought is acceptable.

Yes.


Quote:

Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not.

Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we?

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 8:55pm:

We must put an end to academics pushing the boundaries of acceptable thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnlPztca9NQ

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

We must put an end to academics claiming their thoughts are correct. Especially those lesbians.

It's kinda funny, my youngest son had a hard time at SCU because the view by the upper echelons of the teaching staff, which just happened to be lesbians, was nursing was a woman's job, he went through the wringer, two of his mates dropped out but went back to complete their degree, one a year after being hounded out, the other two years. These same women claim there is a "wage gap" because it's a female profession, yet you would think that having more men in that job would eliminate that, or prove it wrong. There is something wrong with some of these women.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:07pm:

Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not.

Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we?[/quote]

And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as?

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:17pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we?

And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as?
[/quote]

You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify.

I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:23pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:17pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we? And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as?

You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify.

I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.
[/quote]


Has Aussie ever discussed a thread topic?

All I ever see from him is derailing threads to talk about himself and his perceived legion of people out to get him.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:23pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:17pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we? And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as?

You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify.

I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.
[/quote]

You rate yourself too highly, I've been told one should not mark their own homework.

Are you alleging I am not a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability?

If so, let's see your proof.

And how is that 'rating myself highly?'

I confirm that unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.

And yet again, another thread becomes about Aussie.

YUCK

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 8:59pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 8:55pm: We must put an end to academics pushing the boundaries of acceptable thought. All thought is acceptable. Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Just read Clementine Ford to see mental illness masquerading as sanity.

No, not all thought is acceptable. Porkies are not acceptable, as Matty and FD know all too well.

If Matty or FD want to feel better, that's their issue. We're discussing truth here.

You?

Mattyfisk wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:41pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 8:59pm: freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 8:55pm: We must put an end to academics pushing the boundaries of acceptable thought. All thought is acceptable. Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Just read Clementine Ford to see mental illness masquerading as sanity. No, not all thought is acceptable. Porkies are not acceptable, as Matty and FD know all too well. If Matty or FD want to feel better, that's their issue. We're discussing truth here. You?

Porkies need to be told and are not just a "thought" but a deed. All thought is good. Lack of thought is not so good. Belief is one of the more common examples of "lack of thought". Religions are one of the most common forms of belief. Some are worse than others.

So.....if I think (you know, as in thought) you are a childish wanker, that is good?

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:55pm:

So.....if I think (you know, as in thought) you are a childish wanker, that is good?

Sure. If you expand that to deed because you don't like childish wankers and want to put your "not small" hands on me and it becomes a deed, it may become one you will regret.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:23pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:17pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we? And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as?

You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify.

I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.
[/quote]

Aussie once attempted to justify the slaughter of ten million Jews in the name of peace. It's hard to tell whether he still thinks he is correct.

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:23pm: Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:17pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we? And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as? You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify. I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.

Aussie once attempted to justify the slaughter of ten million Jews in the name of peace. It's hard to tell whether he still thinks he is correct.[/quote]

There you go, Cu. FD is always happy to offer up a porkie.

He changed his mind, you see.

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:03pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:23pm: Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:17pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we? And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as? You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify. I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all.

Aussie once attempted to justify the slaughter of ten million Jews in the name of peace. It's hard to tell whether he still thinks he is correct.[/quote]

Umm, it was their choice FD. If they didn't follow the oberführer's ruling, it would be on their heads. I guess he wouldn't mind the same thing put on Australian followers of Islam, after all Islamia for Islam, Arabia for Arabs, Pakistan for Pakis etc, etc.

I reckon within this little community we have some people who've done some extraordinarily interesting things but not everyone blabs about it.

If you have to tell a story about how as a grow man, you pinned a child to a tree, your depth of experience is pretty shallow.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:01pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:55pm: So.....if I think (you know, as in thought) you are a childish wanker, that is good? Sure. If you expand that to deed because you don't like childish wankers and want to put your "not small" hands on me and it becomes a deed, it may become one you will regret.

Ah.....so now you want to blur between thought and deed.  So, if one thinks of something, according to you, per se, that is good.....yet if they enact it....that is not good.....if you don't like the enactment.

Yes?

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:09pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:01pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:55pm: So.....if I think (you know, as in thought) you are a childish wanker, that is good? Sure. If you expand that to deed because you don't like childish wankers and want to put your "not small" hands on me and it becomes a deed, it may become one you will regret. Ah.....so now you want to blur between thought and deed.  So, if one thinks of something, according to you, per se, that is good.....yet if they enact it....that is not good.....if you don't like the enactment. Yes?

Blur between thought and deed? I made that distinction when? Read back you illiterate.

Edit: You want to keep up this shyte, you go gurl but you know who is going to lose out. Now post up/quote what I told you last weekend and where that has led you. Now all you have is to continue your personal attacks and harden my resolve. You are the one that loses in this, not me. You keep it up and see what it gets you and I won't need these "buttons" and have never used any against you. Dig yourself deeper.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:08pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:03pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:23pm: Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:17pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 9:07pm: Quote: All thought is acceptable. Yes. [quote]Claiming it is correct just because it makes some feel better about their lives is not. Yes....and you are a classic example of exactly that.  Yet, I agree, we all seek to justify what we do for all sorts of reasons including that we regard ourselves as correct, don't we? And you bighands are a classic example of what? What are you trying to portray yourself as? You'll never find me trying to justify the stuff you attempt to justify. I reckon I am a classic example of a person who has been around a tad, done a few miles in all sorts of many different arenas most people never get near, across a very large spectrum, and yet, I am well aware of my limits in knowledge/ability.  Unlike some, I am not a smart arse know all. Aussie once attempted to justify the slaughter of ten million Jews in the name of peace. It's hard to tell whether he still thinks he is correct.

Umm, it was their choice FD. If they didn't follow the oberführer's ruling, it would be on their heads. I guess he wouldn't mind the same thing put on Australian followers of Islam, after all Islamia for Islam, Arabia for Arabs, Pakistan for Pakis etc, etc.
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Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Have you considered converting to Islam?

Let's remember that this was kicked off with the comment by Chu Chu that all thought is good.

You still stand by that?

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Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them?

Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver?


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Have you considered converting to Islam?

No more and no less than I have considered converting to Christianity.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:14pm:

Let's remember that this was kicked off with the comment by Chu Chu that all thought is good. You still stand by that?

Of course. No thought is bad, it's deeds that are bad, acting on thoughts. Thoughts by themselves lack power. It's the externalising of thoughts that is bad, acting on them. Should we have thought police? I think China is working on that.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Quote: Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver? [quote]Have you considered converting to Islam?

No more and no less than I have considered converting to Christianity.[/quote]

Because they won't move to Tasmania, as you have said. Not your fault that won't move. On their heads if they are killed.

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:19pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:14pm: Let's remember that this was kicked off with the comment by Chu Chu that all thought is good. You still stand by that? Of course. No thought is bad, it's deeds that are bad, acting on thoughts. Thoughts by themselves lack power. It's the externalising of thoughts that is bad, acting on them. Should we have thought police? I think China is working on that.

So if say your pretend Grand-daughter says, "I think I will kill Grandma," you will respond by saying, "Gee Grand-daughter, that is a good thought you have there."

Yes?

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:25pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:19pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:14pm: Let's remember that this was kicked off with the comment by Chu Chu that all thought is good. You still stand by that? Of course. No thought is bad, it's deeds that are bad, acting on thoughts. Thoughts by themselves lack power. It's the externalising of thoughts that is bad, acting on them. Should we have thought police? I think China is working on that. So if say your pretend Grand-daughter says, "I think I will kill Grandma," you will respond by saying, "Gee Grand-daughter, that is a good thought you have there." Yes?

What? Now who is a child? Speaking is a deed, not a thought. Have you ever thought, I'd like to kill that c\/nt! You may even be thinking it about me now! Saying you would like to is a deed, not an inexcusable deed depending on the circumstances, but acting on that thought would be, umm, not so good.

You are supposed to be a lawyer right?

So....her thought that she will kill Grandma is good, so long as she never says it out loud?

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:42pm:

So....her thought that she will kill Grandma is good, so long as she never says it out loud?

She can even say it as long as she does not "do" it. Thoughts are not bad, they do nothing unless made into deeds, are you still pretending to be a lawyer?

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What? Now who is a child? Speaking is a deed, not a thought.

Good, we have moved on.

So Grand-Daughter has a thought she ought to kill Grandma. That is good, you say.

And now, contrary to your earlier point, you agree it is okay that, by deed, she may say it out loud to you, cause that is also good.

So, at this point, what do you tell her? Do you say, "Gee, Grand-daugther, that's a great idea," and if not, why not?

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 11:09pm:

Quote: What? Now who is a child? Speaking is a deed, not a thought. Good, we have moved on. So Grand-Daughter has a thought she ought to kill Grandma. That is good, you say. And now, contrary to your earlier point, you agree it is okay that, by deed, she may say it out loud to you, cause that is also good. So, at this point, what do you tell her? Do you say, "Gee, Grand-daugther, that's a great idea," and if not, why not?

Who knows Grand-Daughter's situation is? Grandma is allowing her to be abused by grandpa and she is holding her down? Is that not a valid thought for GD?

How long and how deep do you want to play this game?

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 11:16pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 11:09pm: Quote: What? Now who is a child? Speaking is a deed, not a thought. Good, we have moved on. So Grand-Daughter has a thought she ought to kill Grandma. That is good, you say. And now, contrary to your earlier point, you agree it is okay that, by deed, she may say it out loud to you, cause that is also good. So, at this point, what do you tell her? Do you say, "Gee, Grand-daugther, that's a great idea," and if not, why not? Who knows Grand-Daughter's situation is? Grandma is allowing her to be abused by grandpa and she is holding her down? Is that not a valid thought for GD? How long and how deep do you want to play this game?

You know....because she is .... remember....YOUR pretend Grandchild.  She comes to you and says she is thinking of killing 'your Wife'  Are you going to pat her on the head and tell her that her idea (a thought) is a good one? 

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 11:26pm:

Cu Chulainn wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 11:16pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 11:09pm: Quote: What? Now who is a child? Speaking is a deed, not a thought. Good, we have moved on. So Grand-Daughter has a thought she ought to kill Grandma. That is good, you say. And now, contrary to your earlier point, you agree it is okay that, by deed, she may say it out loud to you, cause that is also good. So, at this point, what do you tell her? Do you say, "Gee, Grand-daugther, that's a great idea," and if not, why not? Who knows Grand-Daughter's situation is? Grandma is allowing her to be abused by grandpa and she is holding her down? Is that not a valid thought for GD? How long and how deep do you want to play this game? You know....because she is .... remember....YOUR pretend Grandchild.  She comes to you and says she is thinking of killing 'your Wife'  Are you going to pat her on the head and tell her that her idea (a thought) is a good one?

So your "picture' is she just decides she want's to kill granny for no reason? Why not go with my scenario?

Some lawyer you are.

freediver wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 9:03pm:

We must put an end to academics claiming their thoughts are correct. Especially those lesbians.

Man this thread is confusing.  At one point we're talking about the idea of thought control being unacceptable, the left are to blame and that nothing should be off-limits for academia, but then you want to tell Lesbians how to think?

Clearly I must have read that wrong?

imagine a world without "thought"

we would still be living in caves...

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 6:11am:

imagine a world without "thought" we would still be living in caves...

Imagining a world without thought we require constant  thinking about not thinking.

Aussie wrote on Nov 29^th, 2018 at 10:18pm:

Quote: Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver?

It was your plan to bring peace to the middle east, remember?

freediver wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 1:21pm:

Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:18pm: Quote: Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver? It was your plan to bring peace to the middle east, remember?

Its impossible anyway since israels population is well under 10 million

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 2:03pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 30th, 2018 at 1:21pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:18pm: Quote: Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver? It was your plan to bring peace to the middle east, remember? Its impossible anyway since israels population is well under 10 million Spot

That rolling footnote to your posts is most apt.There aren't 10 Million israelis so the point about killing 10 million Israelis to bring peace to the ME is all wrong and there's nothing to see her.


Muslims will not rest and agree to peace as long as there is Israel. The existence of a Jewish state in the middle of that sea of Islam is simply unacceptable to Islam.

That they would not be peaceful even if there was NO Israel is also true - they were never peaceful for 1300 years before the creation of Israel. They must go under the iron heel of a caliph, anything else will simply keep jihad alive and flourishing. And then there is always the Sunni-Shia bloodletting when there are no other infidels around.

There can be no negotiations without a clear Israeli commitment to fully withdraw from the Palestinian territory it occupied in 1967, including East Jerusalem; a complete end to all colonial policies; a recognition of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people including their right to self-determination and return; and the release of all Palestinian prisoners. We cannot coexist with the occupation, and we will not surrender to it.

It was not Palestinian territory.
Right of return is unacceptable to the Jews as it would be instant swamping. There is no offer of a similar right of return for all Jews expelled by Muslims across the ME.


So the Muslim demands are framed in a way that they can never be met and so the jihad can roll on.

There is and will obviously be only one solution to the problems of the Middle East.  Get rid of everybody who lives in Palestine.  Jews, Palestinian, Muslim, Christian, everybody.  Make it an uninhabited desert again.  Return it to how it was, before humans moved in.   That'd solve everybody's problem.    ::)

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 2:03pm:

freediver wrote on Nov 30th, 2018 at 1:21pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:18pm: Quote: Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver? It was your plan to bring peace to the middle east, remember? Its impossible anyway since israels population is well under 10 million Spot

I'm sure Aussie could round up a few million extra Jews for the slaughter. It's a small price to pay for peace in the middle east, apparently.

Brian Ross wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 6:11pm:

There is and will obviously be only one solution to the problems of the Middle East.  Get rid of everybody who lives in Palestine.  Jews, Palestinian, Muslim, Christian, everybody.  Make it an uninhabited desert again.  Return it to how it was, before humans moved in.   That'd solve everybody's problem.    ::)

Oh, the cedars of Lebanon,
that we chopped down,
Oh how we wept,
when they were all gone.

cods wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 6:11am:

imagine a world without "thought"

And imagine imagining without thought.

It's easy if you try, dear.

NAZISM is just part of the European process of REJECTING the 2000 years of absolute BULLSH$% that Judaism thrust upon it from the Middle-East.

Before it was a Jewish Messiah: Jesus
Now its a Jewish Prophet: Hitler

What goes around, comes around and little wonder the Jews got crucified for killing one of their own (to get the advantage) long ago.

Judaism to Europe: "The way to God is through us!"
USA to Europe: "The 'true' way to God is through us!"

...I guess NAZISM believed in the USA, no longer Judaism  ;)

Frank wrote on Nov 30^th, 2018 at 5:47pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Nov 30th, 2018 at 2:03pm: freediver wrote on Nov 30th, 2018 at 1:21pm: Aussie wrote on Nov 29th, 2018 at 10:18pm: Quote: Is this true Aussie? Would it be the Jews' fault if you managed to slaughter 10 million of them? Why on Earth would anyone, including me and excluding Hitler want to do that, freediver? It was your plan to bring peace to the middle east, remember? Its impossible anyway since israels population is well under 10 million Spot That rolling footnote to your posts is most apt.There aren't 10 Million israelis so the point about killing 10 million Israelis to bring peace to the ME is all wrong and there's nothing to see her. Muslims will not rest and agree to peace as long as there is Israel. The existence of a Jewish state in the middle of that sea of Islam is simply unacceptable to Islam. That they would not be peaceful even if there was NO Israel is also true - they were never peaceful for 1300 years before the creation of Israel. They must go under the iron heel of a caliph, anything else will simply keep jihad alive and flourishing. And then there is always the Sunni-Shia bloodletting when there are no other infidels around. There can be no negotiations without a clear Israeli commitment to fully withdraw from the Palestinian territory it occupied in 1967, including East Jerusalem; a complete end to all colonial policies; a recognition of the inalienable rights of the Palestinian people including their right to self-determination and return; and the release of all Palestinian prisoners. We cannot coexist with the occupation, and we will not surrender to it. It was not Palestinian territory. Right of return is unacceptable to the Jews as it would be instant swamping. There is no offer of a similar right of return for all Jews expelled by Muslims across the ME. So the Muslim demands are framed in a way that they can never be met and so the jihad can roll on.

So in order to have a discussion you start your replies with an attempted insult. Nice one. Didnt read past it.

Spot

"Jewish prophet: Hitler"?

Have you lost your mind, Jasin?