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Message started by moses on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:04pm

Title: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:04pm
islamic terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by islam.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the qur'an.

How do you stop islamic religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the qur'an.

The qur'an itself actually backs up this surmise:

5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

O.K. obviously about 1400 years ago some decent arabs questioned the teachings of muhammad, they deduced that islam was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread islam across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:26pm
Christian terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by Christianity.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the The Bible.

How do you stop Christian religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the The Bible.

The The Bible itself actually backs up this surmise:

John 14: “2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.” 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” “

O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the “immoderate” and rightards know also (truth will destroy Christianity), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the The Bible in order to stop Christian religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:34pm
A perfect example of :

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:53pm
respected forum member wrote:


Quote:
O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.


Can you please show some teachings of Christ which advocated a death cult practicing atrocities against nonbelievers and apostates?

Failure to do so on your part further reinforces my right to respectfully disagree with the argument you put forward.

I unequivocally call brian my respected fellow traveller in debate whose opinions I value very much

You have to wonder what sort of decent human being whose opinions I value who express views that are different to mine on a debate site are in real life.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:05pm
hi Moses, I fixed your last post up, as you somehow inadvertently filled it up with personal abuse. An honest and easy mistake I'm sure. I edited those instances of inadvertent abuse and replaced them with what I'm sure you were trying to say.

Oh, and please note that any more inadvertent slips like that will earn you a ban.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Sir_Bobby on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:20pm
The religion of Christ has been even worse than the Muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g76LwvbBEI

The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.


Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:39pm
well said Bobby

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:41pm

moses wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:34pm:
A perfect example of :

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.


Oh, no, Moses, investigate it all you like.  However, please, approach it with an open mind, rather than your narrow view which is filled with hatred and bigotry towards Islam and Muslims in general.   You are the exact mirror image of what you claim to be fighting against.  You have no interest in people living peacefully, in harmony, worshipping who they like, how they like.  You instead want them all to march to your Christian drum beat, dripping with hatred and bigotry, right?   ::) ::)



Title: Re: The answer
Post by Sir_Bobby on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
well said Bobby


Thanks Gandalf -
here's some reading for all of you:

http://www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1676.cfm

THE TRUE FACE OF THE ROMAN CATHOLIC INQUISITION --

ROTTEN SPIRITUAL FRUIT FROM THE ABYSS OF HELL




Since history books have been largely rewritten,
few people know specific details of this murderous campaign that lasted over 1,200 years,
killing 75 million people.
But, once you understand the unprecedented horrors of the Inquisition,
you will never look at Roman Catholicism the same way again.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm

moses wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:53pm:
respected forum member wrote:


Quote:
O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.


Can you please show some teachings of Christ which advocated a death cult practicing atrocities against nonbelievers and apostates?


Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.

Now run along, back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong.  I can hear your name  being called.   ::)


Title: Re: The answer
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:28pm
Hey Moses!

When Europe stole Religion from the Middle-East (Judaism)
and called it Christianity.
The Middle-East created Mohommedism to get it back.

So you better pay up... this time with France  ;)

Title: Re: The answer
Post by issuevoter on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:31am

moses wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 4:04pm:
islamic terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by islam.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the qur'an.

How do you stop islamic religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the qur'an.

The qur'an itself actually backs up this surmise:

5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

O.K. obviously about 1400 years ago some decent arabs questioned the teachings of muhammad, they deduced that islam was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread islam across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?


I think I may have answered this question once before. How long? Indefinitely. If there is an answer, it has to come from Islam.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 12:56pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.


By the majority of Christians, perhaps.  By people like Moses, Yadda?  No, it is the serious part of The Bible, G.  It teaches them how to hate and how to kill.  It is a Terrorism training and justification manual.   Tsk, tsk, not that a Christianist like Moses will ever admit that.    ::)

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Frank on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Frank on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Bollocks, Musulman.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible


Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 9:48pm

Quote:
islamic terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by islam.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the qur'an.

How do you stop islamic religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the qur'an.

The qur'an itself actually backs up this surmise:

5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

O.K. obviously about 1400 years ago some decent arabs questioned the teachings of muhammad, they deduced that islam was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread islam across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?


Well didn't that cause a kefuffle?

Not one person could refute what I wrote, could not rebut the argument that this is the way to fight religious terrorism. 

All we got was the usual lies about what Christ preached, the catholic inquisitions which are 100% the exact opposite to the teachings of Christ ( which is the backbone of Christianity) etc. etc. etc.

So the answer is still there right in front of every body:

The only way to defeat islamic terrorism is to have muslims honestly question the evil in the qur'an.

The global terrorism mankind faces today 2019 right here right now is islamic religious terrorism;

Little children are dying in their tens if not hundreds of thousands, because of islamic religious terrorism.

muslims by the millions are fleeing around the globe as refugees demanding that the kufir feed and shelter them.

Every single day of the year people are slaughtered by muslims who follow the qur'an too the very letter.

We have to stop this islamic madness, there is a sure way:


Quote:
islamic terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by islam.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the qur'an.

How do you stop islamic religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the qur'an.

The qur'an itself actually backs up this surmise:

5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

O.K. obviously about 1400 years ago some decent arabs questioned the teachings of muhammad, they deduced that islam was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread islam across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the *moderate* and leftards know also (truth will destroy islam), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the qur'an in order to stop islamic religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:00pm

Judaism: Different story, but same book (as Christianity)
Mohommedism: Same story, but different book (as Christianity).

Christianity is a lie and thus being rejected by European nations. Germany was first. France is next.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:01pm

Quote:
Christian terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by Christianity.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the The Bible.

How do you stop Christian religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the The Bible.

The The Bible itself actually backs up this surmise:

John 14: “2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.” 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” “

O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the “immoderate” and rightards know also (truth will destroy Christianity), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the The Bible in order to stop Christian religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?   ::) ::)


Well didn't that cause a kefuffle?

Not one person could refute what I wrote, could not rebut the argument that this is the way to fight religious terrorism. 

All we got was the usual lies about what Christ preached, the catholic inquisitions which are 100% the exact opposite to the teachings of Christ ( which is the backbone of Christianity) etc. etc. etc.

So the answer is still there right in front of every body:

The only way to defeat Christian terrorism is to have Christians honestly question the evil in the Bible.

The global terrorism mankind faces today 2019 right here right now is Christian religious terrorism;

Little children are dying in their tens if not hundreds of thousands, because of Christian religious terrorism.

Christians by the millions are fleeing around the globe as refugees demanding that the secular feed and shelter them.

Every single day of the year people are slaughtered by Christians who claim to follow The Bible to the very letter.

We have to stop this Christian madness, there is a sure way:


Quote:
Christian terrorism is religious terrorism, it is caused by Christianity.

The rape torture and slaughter of the non believers and apostate believers is sanctioned in the The Bible.

How do you stop Christian religious terrorism?

You thoroughly question and purge the evil in the The Bible.

The The Bible itself actually backs up this surmise:

John 14: “2 In my Father's house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. 4 And you know the way to where I am going.” 5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” 6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. 7 If you had known me, you would have known my Father also. From now on you do know him and have seen him.” “

O.K. obviously about 2000 years ago some decent Christians questioned the teachings of Christ, they deduced that Christianity was nothing more than a death cult which urged atrocities against the nonbelievers and apostates, in order to spread Christianity across the land, so they left.

That's exactly what the “immoderate” and rightards know also (truth will destroy Christianity), but these sick people fight tooth and nail to stop any investigation of the The Bible in order to stop Christian religious terrorism.

How long will the world put up with this?   ::) ::)




Title: Re: The answer
Post by Yadda on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 10:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:

.....The Old Testament.

It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.

Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.






polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.




"Jesus Christ" will return, and he will subdue all of mankind.

Will moslems bow down to the God of the O.T. gandalf ?
....or only to 'Allah' ?



Isaiah 43:11
I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.


Isaiah 45:21
Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22  Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23  I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.


Hosea 13:4
Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.


Romans 14:11
For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12  So then every one of us shall give account of himself to....


Philippians 2:9
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name:
10  That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11  And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.


Revelation 19:11
And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
12  His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
13  And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.




.




1 Corinthians 10:1
Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2  And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3  And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4  And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.



Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 11:28pm
qur'an 5.101 O ye who believe! Ask not questions about things which, if made plain to you, may cause you trouble. But if ye ask about things when the Qur'an is being revealed, they will be made plain to you, Allah will forgive those: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Forbearing.

qur'an 5.102 Some people before you did ask such questions, and on that account lost their faith.

muslims simply have to ask them selves why the people who have questioned the qur'an lost their faith.

The answer to all their troubles lies in this simple question.

Once they realize that the qur'an is nothing more than muhammad urging atrocities be committed in the name of allah, in order to spread islam across the land.

The little kids will stop dying, the world refugee crises will be resolved, muslims will stop the global daily slaughter of people in the name of allah.

The world will be a better place, if muslims simply question the evil in the qur'an.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by issuevoter on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am
Arguing that Islam is no better or worse than Christianity, because of nasty Biblical quotes, and bloody episodes in the history of Christian relations with others, is hardly a recommendation for Islam today.

There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:10am

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Bollocks, Musulman.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible


from your link:


Quote:
Hebrew Bible, also called Hebrew Scriptures, Old Testament, or Tanakh, collection of writings that was first compiled and preserved as the sacred books of the Jewish people. It constitutes a large portion of the Christian Bible.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 24th, 2019 at 10:47am

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
Arguing that Islam is no better or worse than Christianity, because of nasty Biblical quotes, and bloody episodes in the history of Christian relations with others, is hardly a recommendation for Islam today.


What it does is illustrate the Bible quote:

Quote:
...and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone...

[John:8:7]

No religion is faultless.  Not Christianity, not Buddhism, not Hinduism, not Islam.   All are as bad as each other, with followers who are extremists and followers who commit atrocities in the name of their religion.   When you recognise that, you'll recognise that a tiny minority of Muslims are Islamist extremists, just as tiny minority of Christians are Christian extremists.


Quote:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam.


Of course it is.  Christianity has learnt that it is easier to entice believers than it is to brow-beat them.  Islam is learning that.  Christians still commit atrocities though, despite what their religion teaches them.


Quote:
How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years?


Iraq, twice, plus the Occupation.  Then you have Syria.  Then you have Rwanda.  Then you have Central African Republic, the Balkans, Vietnam, Korea, WWII, WWI...   The list goes on and on, IssueVoter.   Christians who believe in "love thy neighbour" are rather handy with the machine gun when they want to be...


Quote:
How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


Yes.  Happens everyday in Western cities around the world...   ::)


Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.


Why do you think it has a lower profile Gandalf?

There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


Sir_Bobby wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:20pm:
The religion of Christ has been even worse than the Muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g76LwvbBEI

The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.



polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
well said Bobby


Are you two suggesting there is no fundamental difference is the two doctrine's support for violence?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by issuevoter on Jan 24th, 2019 at 1:17pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.


Oh I get your drift. The evil Western media isn't reporting all the Christian massacres of Muzlims, because they are so pro-Christian. More lies and obfuscation from our resident turbanhead.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 24th, 2019 at 2:27pm
The one definitive fact in this Christian versus islam debate is:

Christ never advocated violence as the path for his followers.

muhammad taught that violence is perfectly O.K.

muslims right now today 2019 are the global terrorists, the worlds refugee problem, muslims are the very people who have slaughtered hundreds of thousands of innocent children with hunger and death while fleeing muslim violence.

Yet the sick *moderates* and apologists keep trying to muddy the waters with their continual deceitful references to other beliefs.

islam is the problem right now today, why are these weirdos afraid to face up to the problem of muslim global terrorism?

Query, why do people who question the qur'an lose their faith?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Frank on Jan 24th, 2019 at 5:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:10am:

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 6:51pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 23rd, 2019 at 8:30am:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 10:14pm:
Easily, Moses.  It is referred to as The Old Testament.  It is filled with teachings about how Christianity views nonbelievers and apostates.  Then we have the teachings of the Christian church(es) which are filled with how nonbelievers and apostates should be treated.


I believe that is also known as the "yeah nah, just kidding" section of the Bible.

It's the Jewish part, Musulman.

But you know that but want to furtively slip into what it's like to be the Paki, Bwian or Turd, much like slipping into your mama's burqa and slippers. Vicarious dickheaddle and cross-dressing.


Its part of the *CHRISTIAN* bible. Its called the old testament. I think the jews call it something else.

Bollocks, Musulman.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hebrew-Bible


from your link:


Quote:
Hebrew Bible, also called Hebrew Scriptures, Old Testament, or Tanakh, collection of writings that was first compiled and preserved as the sacred books of the Jewish people. It constitutes a large portion of the Christian Bible.

It is there to show what Christianity has moved ON from and what it has not.

There is NO Christ in the OT. Chritanity is about a Jew who moved on from the OT. Didn't abandoning, reformed it, made something NEW from it.

What new and good has Islam brought into the world? Nothing.





Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Oh I get your drift. The evil Western media isn't reporting all the Christian massacres of Muzlims, because they are so pro-Christian.


No, all it is is that most of them happen in Africa, and no one (in the west) cares about what happens in Africa - Christian or muslim.


freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by .JaSin. on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:24pm
The 4 Points of the Christian Cross and the Process of Christianity dying in Europe like a Holy Ghost.


Germany broke its Christian Cross (Swastika) upon the unarmed souls of the JEWS.

Armed Moslems break the Christian Cross of France who was left to defend for themselves.

The Italians destroyed their Christianity by attacking the unarmed Moslems and defending against armed Jewish attacks.

By the time it was Britain's turn - their own Colonies of Australia/America had destroyed them. Islam & Israel become 'United' as IstarI (I + I)  without confrontation (from Britain)  and with peace.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Jan 25th, 2019 at 12:25pm
Gandalf if these Christian terrorist attacks really are happening every day as you claim, why don't you start a "this day in the Christian war on everyone" thread? Don't you care about Africans either?

Last I checked you were up to one example, so you could bump the thread at least once a year.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 25th, 2019 at 3:36pm
Gandi while you're at it, can you tell us why muslims who question the qur'an lose their faith?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.


Why do you think it has a lower profile Gandalf?

There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


Sir_Bobby wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:20pm:
The religion of Christ has been even worse than the Muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g76LwvbBEI

The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.



polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
well said Bobby


Are you two suggesting there is no fundamental difference in the two doctrine's support for violence?



Both religions are based on Abrahamic religion -
the most violent religion ever invented. ( by the Jews)

The Muslims plagiarized the Torah or OT to get their crazy Sharia laws and ideas.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:27pm

Quote:
The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.


That's what I continually bang on about.

muslims must honestly question the qur'an.

The qur'an is a war manual, islams' paradise is a brothel packed with hour'is with big tits and little boys, the jihadists are the highest grade of muslims guaranteed a place in the brothel.

For goodness sake how much longer do we have to put up with all the lying sniveling and sneaking?

The fruits of islam are right there in front of us, the bodies are numbered in the millions, little children starved to death, women being raped on a daily scale.

When are the sickos going to stop trying to sweep all the evils of islam under the carpet?

islam must honestly question the evil in the qur'an, only then will we have some hope for peace.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:32pm

moses wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:27pm:

Quote:
The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.


That's what I continually bang on about.

muslims must honestly question the qur'an.

The qur'an is a war manual, islams' paradise is a brothel packed with hour'is with big tits and little boys, the jihadists are the highest grade of muslims guaranteed a place in the brothel.

For goodness sake how much longer do we have to put up with all the lying sniveling and sneaking?

The fruits of islam are right there in front of us, the bodies are numbered in the millions, little children starved to death, women being raped on a daily scale.

When are the sickos going to stop trying to sweep all the evils of islam under the carpet?

islam must honestly question the evil in the qur'an, only then will we have some hope for peace.



But if Muslims question the Koran they get crucified.
It's just like the Roman Catholic Inquisition.
It took 1200 years to get rid of those barbaric Inquisition idiots.
Well they're still there but in a benign form.

The question is -
how long will it take to get rid of the Muslim idiots
and reform their violent faith?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:49pm
Once muslims honestly question the qur'an islam will implode.

islam simply can't stand up to investigation.

muslims are held in the islamic faith by:

1/. the threat of death if they leave.

2/. they are forbidden to question the qur'an.

The answer to all the problems lies in having muslims own their terrorism and questioning the innumerable qur'an verses which promote the hatred death and destruction the muslims are reveling in at the moment.

No more excuses, islam has to answer for its' own depravity.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Bobby. on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm

moses wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:49pm:
Once muslims honestly question the qur'an islam will implode.

islam simply can't stand up to investigation.

muslims are held in the islamic faith by:

1/. the threat of death if they leave.

2/. they are forbidden to question the qur'an.

The answer to all the problems lies in having muslims own their terrorism and questioning the innumerable qur'an verses which promote the hatred death and destruction the muslims are reveling in at the moment.

No more excuses, islam has to answer for its' own depravity.



It's up to the corrupt leaders of Islam to denounce the violence
which is demanded in their Koran.

Are they brave enough?
I doubt it.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 25th, 2019 at 5:08pm
That's where the rest of us come in.

The world must demand that muslims question and purge the evil from their *holy* book.

At the moment the leftards are fighting tooth and nail to stop any criticism of the qur'an.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Frank on Jan 25th, 2019 at 7:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 1:17pm:
Oh I get your drift. The evil Western media isn't reporting all the Christian massacres of Muzlims, because they are so pro-Christian.


No, all it is is that most of them happen in Africa, and no one (in the west) cares about what happens in Africa - Christian or muslim.


freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.

You Muslims are killing people everywhere, all the time because of Islam.  You are killing each other, you are killing whatever is to hand. You are completely drunk on violence. Have been from day 1.

Why? Because Islam teaches them to do it. And you do bugger all to stop them because your life would be in danger if you did.  So you will never go against Islam because you don't want to be killed by Muslims.

Christians are reforming themselves constantly. Christianity and Judaism have come a LONG way. You Muslims are stuck in primitive stupidity because Islam says you must be killed unless you submit.i







Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Jan 26th, 2019 at 8:18am

Bobby. wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 4:06pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 9:31am:

issuevoter wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 8:46am:
There is a difference, of course. And it is that Christianity today, is far less violent than Islam. How many incidents of Christians machine-gunning people on the streets of a major city in the last 20 years? How many incidents of Christians squashing people with trucks? Are the numbers even remotely similar?


I suppose Srebenica and Sabra and Shatila don't make the 20 year cut, but not far off...

Modern christian violence is by no means an anomaly, though less high profile than its Islamic counterpart. Its probably most common in Africa where muslim minorities in the Sub-Sahara are subject to semi-regular massacres by machete wielding christian vigilantes. One of the few to have gained (minimal) media attention recently was the massacres and ethnic cleansing in Central African Republic. And no, muslims there are not blameless either - but still you asked for examples of Christian violence.


Why do you think it has a lower profile Gandalf?

There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


Sir_Bobby wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:20pm:
The religion of Christ has been even worse than the Muslims:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3g76LwvbBEI

The Muslims are just going through the same event
and it will only be stopped by a reformation from within.



polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 22nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
well said Bobby


Are you two suggesting there is no fundamental difference in the two doctrine's support for violence?



Both religions are based on Abrahamic religion -
the most violent religion ever invented. ( by the Jews)

The Muslims plagiarized the Torah or OT to get their crazy Sharia laws and ideas.


You didn't answer the question Bobby.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 30th, 2019 at 9:19am

freediver wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 12:25pm:
Gandalf if these Christian terrorist attacks really are happening every day as you claim, why don't you start a "this day in the Christian war on everyone" thread? Don't you care about Africans either?

Last I checked you were up to one example, so you could bump the thread at least once a year.


Because that would be stupid. I'll leave spiteful daily registers of hate to others.

And I never said or even remotely suggested that christians are waging "war on everyone".

Title: Re: The answer
Post by moses on Jan 30th, 2019 at 2:21pm
You jest surely gandi, you really believe that the sub-human cruelty and depravity of the fundamentalist muslims around the globe, shouldn't be fought with all the castigation, criticism and exposure possible, in order to bring some sort of peace in the world?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Brian Ross on Jan 30th, 2019 at 3:56pm
You jest surely Moses, you really believe that the sub-human cruelty and depravity of the fundamentalist Christians around the globe, shouldn't be fought with all the castigation, criticism and exposure possible, in order to bring some sort of peace in the world?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Jan 30th, 2019 at 7:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 9:19am:

freediver wrote on Jan 25th, 2019 at 12:25pm:
Gandalf if these Christian terrorist attacks really are happening every day as you claim, why don't you start a "this day in the Christian war on everyone" thread? Don't you care about Africans either?

Last I checked you were up to one example, so you could bump the thread at least once a year.


Because that would be stupid. I'll leave spiteful daily registers of hate to others.

And I never said or even remotely suggested that christians are waging "war on everyone".


When you say Christian attacks happen just as often as Muslim ones, are you referring to Greg's statistics that equate lethal Muslim attacks with non-lethal attacks by non-Muslims?

If not, can you present any evidence to back up your claims?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Karnal on Jan 30th, 2019 at 11:06pm
Does anyone else see the fun in FD posting in a thread called "the answer"?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 31st, 2019 at 1:25pm

freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
When you say Christian attacks happen just as often as Muslim ones,


Here's your problem. I stopped reading here.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Jan 31st, 2019 at 1:30pm
Its worth pointing out a classic example of how impossible it is to debate with FD due to his uncanny inability to understand simple English:



Quote:
freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


From which we apparent arrive at...


freediver wrote on Jan 30th, 2019 at 7:42pm:
When you say Christian attacks happen just as often as Muslim ones


*facepalm*

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Karnal on Jan 31st, 2019 at 5:06pm
Yes, but FD has to clarify what you mean, G. Do you deny him this right?

Are you trying to take away his Freeeedom?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:16pm

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?


No more so than you can back up the claim that there are muslim terrorist attacks that happen every day that we never hear about. That makes about as much sense as asking me to prove that trees fall in the forest that we never know about.


Title: Re: The answer
Post by .JaSin. on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:26pm
Moslems will continue to use Terrorism (the last vapors of a once great military Empire) until the Price has been Paid.

Destroy Isis, Al-Queda or any other 'terrorist' cell or branch around the world and other's will just keep popping up with new names, but the same of agendas.

Until Islam gets its 'Messiah' to balance their Prophet Mohommed. They will never lay down 'the Weapon' and dissolve the Empire - that has been going for centuries.

So which Christian nation will lay down its life for the sins of Europe? Will it be France?  :-?

Of course it will be.
When? Maybe this year - maybe in 10 years??
Regardless, the world will not change - until that Price has been paid.

You steal Religion from the Jews of the Middle-East and call it Christianity as you use it to empower yourselves around the world with colonisations - then the Moslems were invented to get it back.

What the Germans did to the Jews.
The Moslems will do to the French.

Only then, will Moslems stop Terrorism.

So - cough up France  ;)

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Bobby. on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:33pm

Jasin wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Moslems will continue to use Terrorism (the last vapors of a once great military Empire) until the Price has been Paid.

Destroy Isis, Al-Queda or any other 'terrorist' cell or branch around the world and other's will just keep popping up with new names, but the same of agendas.

Until Islam gets its 'Messiah' to balance their Prophet Mohommed. They will never lay down 'the Weapon' and dissolve the Empire - that has been going for centuries.

So which Christian nation will lay down its life for the sins of Europe? Will it be France?  :-?

Of course it will be.
When? Maybe this year - maybe in 10 years??
Regardless, the world will not change - until that Price has been paid.

You steal Religion from the Jews of the Middle-East and call it Christianity as you use it to empower yourselves around the world with colonisations - then the Moslems were invented to get it back.

What the Germans did to the Jews.
The Moslems will do to the French.

Only then, will Moslems stop Terrorism.

So - cough up France  ;)




Are you calling the French " surrender monkeys"?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:23am

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?


No more so than you can back up the claim that there are muslim terrorist attacks that happen every day that we never hear about. That makes about as much sense as asking me to prove that trees fall in the forest that we never know about.


There is an entire thread of evidence here. Every single day there are more. Does the mainstream media report on Muslim terrorist attacks every day?

Where is your evidence? When you talk about Christian terrorist attacks, did you really mean Christians saying mean things about Islam on the internet?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Karnal on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:01pm

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?


No more so than you can back up the claim that there are muslim terrorist attacks that happen every day that we never hear about. That makes about as much sense as asking me to prove that trees fall in the forest that we never know about.


There is an entire thread of evidence here. Every single day there are more. Does the mainstream media report on Muslim terrorist attacks every day?

Where is your evidence? When you talk about Christian terrorist attacks, did you really mean Christians saying mean things about Islam on the internet?


Or do you think it was graffiti?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:03pm

Why would an overweight racist pig in Speedos think it's okay to kick pregnant women?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Feb 4th, 2019 at 9:45am

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?


No more so than you can back up the claim that there are muslim terrorist attacks that happen every day that we never hear about. That makes about as much sense as asking me to prove that trees fall in the forest that we never know about.


There is an entire thread of evidence here. Every single day there are more. Does the mainstream media report on Muslim terrorist attacks every day?

Where is your evidence? When you talk about Christian terrorist attacks, did you really mean Christians saying mean things about Islam on the internet?


I've read enough about violence in the sub-saharan against muslim minorities to be pretty confident that the violence is a daily occurrence. There was brief media interest in the Central African Republic ethnic cleansing recently, but the vast majority of it goes unnoticed.

Also, I very much doubt much muslim violence escapes the attention of jihadwatch and co

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Feb 4th, 2019 at 8:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 9:45am:

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?


No more so than you can back up the claim that there are muslim terrorist attacks that happen every day that we never hear about. That makes about as much sense as asking me to prove that trees fall in the forest that we never know about.


There is an entire thread of evidence here. Every single day there are more. Does the mainstream media report on Muslim terrorist attacks every day?

Where is your evidence? When you talk about Christian terrorist attacks, did you really mean Christians saying mean things about Islam on the internet?


I've read enough about violence in the sub-saharan against muslim minorities to be pretty confident that the violence is a daily occurrence. There was brief media interest in the Central African Republic ethnic cleansing recently, but the vast majority of it goes unnoticed.

Also, I very much doubt much muslim violence escapes the attention of jihadwatch and co


Just enough to convince yourself eh? Was this before or after you convinced yourself that everyone voluntarily giving up all guns and nukes was a good idea?

So why not post the evidence? Do you not care on account of the victims being black?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Karnal on Feb 4th, 2019 at 9:07pm

freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 8:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 9:45am:

freediver wrote on Feb 2nd, 2019 at 9:23am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 1st, 2019 at 3:16pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 31st, 2019 at 9:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 7:07pm:

freediver wrote on Jan 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
There are Muslim terrorist attacks every day that we don't hear about.


As there are Christian, that was my only point - that they are not non-existent, not that they are more or even the same number as Islamic attacks.


Can you back this up Gandalf?


No more so than you can back up the claim that there are muslim terrorist attacks that happen every day that we never hear about. That makes about as much sense as asking me to prove that trees fall in the forest that we never know about.


There is an entire thread of evidence here. Every single day there are more. Does the mainstream media report on Muslim terrorist attacks every day?

Where is your evidence? When you talk about Christian terrorist attacks, did you really mean Christians saying mean things about Islam on the internet?


I've read enough about violence in the sub-saharan against muslim minorities to be pretty confident that the violence is a daily occurrence. There was brief media interest in the Central African Republic ethnic cleansing recently, but the vast majority of it goes unnoticed.

Also, I very much doubt much muslim violence escapes the attention of jihadwatch and co


Just enough to convince yourself eh? Was this before or after you convinced yourself that everyone voluntarily giving up all guns and nukes was a good idea?

So why not post the evidence? Do you not care on account of the victims being black?


On account of being black? We hadn't noticed, FD.

You?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Feb 5th, 2019 at 2:08pm

freediver wrote on Feb 4th, 2019 at 8:59pm:


Who said I had any? It was an educated guess that I think few people would disagree with.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Feb 5th, 2019 at 7:16pm
Any what? Evidence? You just finished explaining what evidence convinced you.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Karnal on Feb 5th, 2019 at 8:35pm

freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
Any what? Evidence? You just finished explaining what evidence convinced you.


Were they black?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Feb 6th, 2019 at 10:25am

freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
Any what? Evidence? You just finished explaining what evidence convinced you.


I mentioned stuff I read about Africa that leads me to make an educated guess. Fine, lets call it evidence then. Anything to avoid yet another mind-numbing semantic debate with you.

Are you seriously suggesting that attacks on muslim minorities across all the Sub-Saharan cluster faark is not a daily occurance?

Title: Re: The answer
Post by freediver on Feb 6th, 2019 at 7:15pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 10:25am:

freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
Any what? Evidence? You just finished explaining what evidence convinced you.


I mentioned stuff I read about Africa that leads me to make an educated guess. Fine, lets call it evidence then. Anything to avoid yet another mind-numbing semantic debate with you.

Are you seriously suggesting that attacks on muslim minorities across all the Sub-Saharan cluster faark is not a daily occurance?


I expect it happens quite often, perpetuated by fellow Muslims. What about these daily Christian terrorist attacks?

And where did you read this "stuff"? At your local mosque or Islamic school? You seem very cagey about all of your sources lately.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by Karnal on Feb 6th, 2019 at 11:13pm
FD, what do you despise about the blacks? Is it the inferior Negroid genes? Their subnormal IQ levels? Their tendency to interbreed with the Arab subspecies?

You're not racist, remember. Some of your best friends are inbreds. You knew a Muslim once.

Title: Re: The answer
Post by gandalf on Feb 7th, 2019 at 10:40am

freediver wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 7:15pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Feb 6th, 2019 at 10:25am:

freediver wrote on Feb 5th, 2019 at 7:16pm:
Any what? Evidence? You just finished explaining what evidence convinced you.


I mentioned stuff I read about Africa that leads me to make an educated guess. Fine, lets call it evidence then. Anything to avoid yet another mind-numbing semantic debate with you.

Are you seriously suggesting that attacks on muslim minorities across all the Sub-Saharan cluster faark is not a daily occurance?


I expect it happens quite often, perpetuated by fellow Muslims. What about these daily Christian terrorist attacks?

And where did you read this "stuff"? At your local mosque or Islamic school? You seem very cagey about all of your sources lately.


You "expect" its only ever muslim on muslim violence eh?

Faux concern over providing evidence must only kick in when the focus is taken away from demonizing muslims.

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