Post by Yadda on Mar 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm
Those damned Evangelical Christians !!!
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Title: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! ;D :D Quote:
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by AiA on Mar 9th, 2019 at 12:31am
Tens of millions of evangelical Christians would be happy to see a mushroom cloud over Jerusalem because it would mean Jesus is on his way. Yadda, do you think that too? I suspect you do ...
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by mortdooley on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:23am AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 12:31am:
Where do you get fables like that? I've never met Evangelicals obsessed with the destruction of Israel or the Jewish people. The ones I have known didn't seem to give Jews any thought at all. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Karnal on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:43am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:23am:
I have, but not because they hate Jews. They believe the destruction of Israel will bring on the Apocolypse. And yes, I've met them. So have you. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Marla on Mar 9th, 2019 at 3:00am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:23am:
Same diffy, morty torty. Then again, you are from Texuuus. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 9th, 2019 at 9:51am AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 12:31am:
I would vigorously dispute that patently false claim. The followers of ISLAM ? Yes! Hundreds of millions of followers of ISLAM would be happy to see a mushroom cloud over Jerusalem because it would mean lots of dead Jews. AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 12:31am:
Certainly NOT! The God of Jacob, bless all of the Jewish people. I pray. Numbers 22:5 He sent messengers therefore unto Balaam the son of Beor to Pethor, which is by the river of the land of the children of his people, to call him, saying, Behold, there is a people come out from Egypt: behold, they cover the face of the earth, and they abide over against me: 6 Come now therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people; for they are too mighty for me: peradventure I shall prevail, that we may smite them, and that I may drive them out of the land: for I wot [know] that he whom thou blessest is blessed, and he whom thou cursest is cursed. 7 And the elders of Moab and the elders of Midian departed with the rewards of divination in their hand; and they came unto Balaam, and spake unto him the words of Balak. ..... 9 And God came unto Balaam, and said, What men are these with thee? 10 And Balaam said unto God, Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, hath sent unto me, saying, 11 Behold, there is a people come out of Egypt, which covereth the face of the earth: come now, curse me them; peradventure I shall be able to overcome them, and drive them out. 12 And God said unto Balaam, Thou shalt not go with them; thou shalt not curse the people: for they are blessed. 13 And Balaam rose up in the morning, and said unto the princes of Balak, Get you into your land: for the LORD refuseth to give me leave to go with you. 14 And the princes of Moab rose up, and they went unto Balak, and said, Balaam refuseth to come with us. Numbers 22:15 And Balak sent yet again princes, more, and more honourable than they. 16 And they came to Balaam, and said to him, Thus saith Balak the son of Zippor, Let nothing, I pray thee, hinder thee from coming unto me: 17 For I will promote thee unto very great honour, and I will do whatsoever thou sayest unto me: come therefore, I pray thee, curse me this people. 18 And Balaam answered and said unto the servants of Balak, If Balak would give me his house full of silver and gold, I cannot go beyond the word of the LORD my God, to do less or more. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by AiA on Mar 9th, 2019 at 9:55am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:23am:
It's the Endtimes, Mortie. They're a-comin'. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:22am Karnal wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:43am:
You are a liar K. WHAT YOU ARE DOING..... Is re-purposing a mainstream ISLAMIC meme, relating to the moslem end-time Judgement Day, and seeking to hang that ISLAMIC doctrinal meme around the neck of Christians. But it does not fit. ----- > No Evangelical Christians would want to see harm come to Israel or to the Jewish people. The Jewish people are blessed. [....after being punishmed, in the 'wilderness' http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1434160480/9#9 ] Deuteronomy 32:8 When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel. 9 For the LORD'S portion is his people; Jacob is the lot of his inheritance. Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in. 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins. . I said.... WHAT YOU ARE DOING..... Is re-purposing a mainstream ISLAMIC meme, relating to the moslem end-time Judgement Day, and seeking to hang that meme around the neck of Christians. It does not fit. But this does!!!! WWW search.... muslims believe that judgement day will not come till they fight / kill the Jews WWW search.... muslims, killing of jewish people, will bring about judgement day WWW search.... Houston: Imam says "Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Muslims will kill the Jews Filthy stinking, vicious, deceitful, MURDEROUS, followers of ISLAM. The God of Creation, bring the followers of ISLAM to account, for every evil path they pursue. Open the eyes of all people, to let us all see, what evil machinations bring. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:40am
Maybe, just maybe, we could have comments about what Evangelical Christians believe from actual evangelical christians.
you know... just for variation. The vast, vast majority of Christians support Israel and often very one-sidely. But there are NONE who want a mushroom cloud. Please people, dont show your utter ignorance of the Bible and Christians in such an obvious manner. At least try and fake it a bit. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:49am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:40am:
And yet you give money to Benny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdUIqKJyD0Q |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Redmond Neck on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:51am
Isnt Morriscum an evangelical ?
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:53am Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:51am:
Yes he is and like them all he would believe in the prosperity message. Let Longy explain that to you. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 11:31am Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:49am:
except I dont, gayboy |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 11:32am Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:53am:
Because God wants us poor and desperate??? You really should try actually reading your Bible. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 9th, 2019 at 11:49am ....men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness.... .....godliness with contentment is great gain..... KJV |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 12:05pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 11:32am:
Longy, you must sell everything and follow Christ. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:52pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 12:05pm:
That is not a command... which you would know if you read your Bible other than selectively quoting it like Yadda. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:11pm
Why is there so much flat out incorrect bullshit posted on this forum by the conservative buggertards on here!?
I know you idiots insist on finding content that aligns with your opinions but this is ridiculous. Research the actual facts, not what you get from your social media bubble Jesus Christ... It's like the people calling Ilhan Omar anti-semitic when she wasn't talking about Jewish people but lobby groups constantly derailing debate into areas they think they can thrive as a distraction away from what the actual topic was, EXACTLY like what happened after her comments. Nobody is talking about the lobby groups anymore, only the right trying to paint her as anti-semitic, because she's brown muslim refugee immigrant woman with power. I'm surprised there isn't already a thread on here about it, who am I kidding, you dickholes have probably already posted about it somewhere. The level of outright lies on here that when someone attempts, even with evidence, to correct the record that person, in turn, gets called paid shills, liars or they don't know what they're talking about. This place shouldn't be the haven for the small dick snowflake conservatives so threatened to their core of equality because they feel they deserve better than everyone else. Earn your place like everyone else has to, you're not deserving of special treatment. And women with power doesn't mean you have to chop your dick off even though you act like it... |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:14pm SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:11pm:
You could have said the OP was stupid and wrong. You missed an opportunity here. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:17pm
I posted without proofreading and have since edited the post.
Yadda knows what he's doing, he doesn't need to be reminded of his latest false narrative. Truth doesn't matter anymore, it's all about reshaping reality to suit the target audience. It's bullshit and those who perpetuate it should do us all a favour... |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:20pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 2:52pm:
Matt 19 KJV. 21] Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. [22] But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. [23] Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. [24] And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:15pm SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:17pm:
I see you are feeling the cynicism and desperation the rest of us have had for years surrounded by the mental midgets that infest this place. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:16pm As per usual, all of the OzPol trolls have gravitated to my thread. Another one ruined. :'( |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:17pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 4:20pm:
you can quote anything you like from any book you want. That doesnt mean you have any understanding of it which clearly you do not. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:21pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:17pm:
The message is clear Longy - you must forget material possessions - sell it all - give the money to the poor and follow Christ. Your treasure is in heaven not here. The prosperity message rammed down your throat every Sunday is heresy. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:24pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 5:15pm:
I've always conducted myself on here as I would in the real world. Perhaps it's time to take a break from that and treat some of these conservative buggerheads with the same disrespect and disdain they show to anyone who disagrees with them or calls them out on their lies. Respect is earned and I've given it away to these dickheads for far too long. Oh but now treating them as they treat others makes them the victim of trolling? Do these snowflakes need a safe space? How about don't be idiots in the first place? If you can't take it then don't dish it out, princesses. Pathetic and weak little man-children, all of them. Talk a big game online but nothing but cry babies like Trump. They want to be able to treat others like crap, bend or break the rules, but then hide behind them and demand the protections for themselves when the tables are turned, attacking people for playing the victim but then doing it themselves... This new age conservatism is more pathetic than ever. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:30pm SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:24pm:
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:48pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:30pm:
You're so clever Light, you're not gullible or easily manipulated and your intellect and mental prowess dazzles us with rock solid, logical and irritable posts revealing many hidden truths that we're all much better people for knowing. Whateverdo without you? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:50pm SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:15pm SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 8:48pm:
all that is lost on Fatso. When you are as stupid as him literary barbs are ineffective. and when you are a fat as he is, LITERAL barbs are also ineffective. Elephant gun perhaps... |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:31pm
The message is clear Longy -
you must forget material possessions - sell it all - give the money to the poor and follow Christ. Your treasure is in heaven not here. The prosperity message rammed down your throat every Sunday is heresy. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:33pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:15pm:
Longy, Leave master Light alone - you're nowhere near as smart as he is. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 10th, 2019 at 7:37am Bobby. wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 10:33pm:
Light is a literal lunatic and moron and is so stupid that even you look smart compared to him. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 10th, 2019 at 8:17am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 7:37am:
Longy, Stop denigrating other posters. Tell us about the prosperity message you'll receive today at church while you compare clothes and cars? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 10th, 2019 at 8:37am Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Light is literally the opposite of everything I posted about. You know it, I know it, even he knows it. I thought being PC and protecting peoples feelings was bad, we should tell it how it is? And it's ok, nay, better to be sarcastic and trolly about it. Should I have included some memes too? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 10th, 2019 at 12:31pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 8:17am:
Longy, you must be back from church by now - tell us about the message you received? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Redmond Neck on Mar 10th, 2019 at 12:56pm
Light is a moron I think!
How are you going with all those Masons in the Catholic Church mate? https://catholicherald.co.uk/issues/august-11th-2017/the-real-reason-catholics-cant-be-freemasons/ https://www.catholicworldreport.com/2017/02/07/freemasons-and-their-craft-what-catholics-should-know/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_ban_of_Freemasonry https://www.catholiceducation.org/en/culture/catholic-contributions/catholics-and-freemasonry.html Not sure where you get your info from Light but it doesnt sound as if the Micks are all that keen on being Masons |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by mortdooley on Mar 10th, 2019 at 11:20pm AiA wrote on Mar 9th, 2019 at 9:55am:
The End Times have been predicted at least since the Middle Ages. As I have told anyone who wants me to prepare for the Rapture that the odds are very small they will be the ones who see it come to pass. They need to make sure they have their lives in order and stop hoping for the Second coming. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:56am Bobby. wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 12:31pm:
About the love of God, how He talks with us and about His Word and the message it brings. happy now? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 11th, 2019 at 4:29pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:56am:
What - nothing about the prosperity message? - about how God will get you the latest fast car - or a Rolex watch? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:05pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 4:29pm:
keep talking, keep posting and continue to show that you dont go to church and simply rely on youtube to form opinions unrelated to fact. You are an ignorant idiot and continue to prove that. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:27pm Redmond Neck wrote on Mar 10th, 2019 at 12:56pm:
all " catholic " links ..ergo = propaganda .. you prove nothing , yet tell me .. is the current pope a jesuit ? pray tell beloved being .. ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:31pm
you want it red ?
lets go .. simple facts .. the romans killed yeshua and stole his church .. and now call it the roman catholic church .. heads up , rome NEVER fell . lucifer walks through the vatican * https://mumbailaity.wordpress.com/2011/01/27/masons-control-the-vatican-and-the-roman-catholic-church/ Masons Control the Vatican And The Roman Catholic Church Compiled by Rev. F.J.G. Ragelis (1976) Pope John Paul I His reign lasted only 33 days 1978. August to 1978. September. According to some sources he was murdered Although Liberalist and Marxist infiltrators have been more active in the Roman Catholic Church in the past 50 years, with selected agents entering the seminaries as candidates for the Priesthood, the disciples of the Church kept these infected intellectuals underground, restraining any open activity. Pope John XXIII knew there were dangerous elements in the Church, and specifically to bring them out in the open, he convened the Second Vatican Council. The Council had no sooner opened when the secret elements took control. The conservative Council Fathers were unprepared and could not foresee that they would be the losers. When the documents of Vatican Council II were published, they became a tool in the hands of progressivist elements. Special commissions were created to work out what was to be changed and how the changes must be enforced under obedience. The special commissions were of course controlled by the same secret elements. Listed below are the names of Monsignors, Bishops and Cardinals who are Masons and who are working in the Vatican, From the number of them -and from the exalted posts they hold it is easy to see how they completely control the Holy Father, the Vatican and the entire Church. These are some of the men responsible for the detested changes being forced upon good Catholics all over the world today. Name Date Initiated into the Masonic Rite Casaroli, Agostino September 28, 1957 Baggio, Sebastiano August 14, 1957 Angelini, Fiorenzo October 14, 1957 Macchi, Pasquale April 23, 1958 Virgilio, Levi (Lovino) July 4, 1958 Alessandro, Gottardi June 13, 1959 Pellegrino, Michele May 2, 1960 Virgilio, Noe April 3, 1961 Bugnini, Annibale April 23, 1963 Villot, Jean August 6, 1966 Suenens, Leo June 15, 1967 Poletti, Ugo February 17, 1969 Name Date entered Matr. number Monogram Marchisano, Francesco February 4, 1961 4536-3 FRAMA Biffi, Franco August 15, 1969 64-23 BIFRA Brini, Mario July 13, 1969 15-670 MABRI Rizzi, Mario September 16, 1969 43-179 MONMARI Pinot. Pio Vito April 2, 1970 3317 42 PPV & VIP WHERE ARE THE MASON-ECCLESIASTICS WORKING? Giovanni Battista – Pope Paul VI. after hismother’s name: Maria Montini known as the „Montinian or Jewish pope”His reign in the Vatican 1963-1978 1. Cardinal Villot, Jean (Protector of the Church Ss-ma Trinita al Monte Pincio), Archbishop of Bosporo. Birthplace: Saint-Amant-Sallende, Diocese of Clermont; October 11, 1905; ordination April 19, 1930; consecration October 12, 1954; created and proclaimed Cardinal on February 12, 1965. Cardinal Villot is Secretary of Vatican State of His Holiness and Camerlengo of the Holy Roman Church. Residence. Vatican City State. Cardinal Villot is Prefect of: The Sacred Congregation for Religious and Secular Institutes; (president) Administrator of the Patrimony of the Holy See. Practically, Cardinal Villot controls Vatican foreign affairs and the most important Sacred Congregations. He became a Mason on August 6, 1966. [note El Universal daily in Mexico City on 10th of August 1976 published articles of the International Committee of Defense of Catholic Tradition about Cardinal Villot. It says Vatican Secretary of State Cardinal Villot is one having come forth from a French family that produces, from father to son during the last two centuries Grand Masters of Freemasonry and the Rosicrucians Cardinal Jean Villot isCamerlengo. What does the Camerlengo position mean? After the death of Pope Paul VI, Villot will govern the Church until a new Pope is elected] 2. Cardinal Poletti, Ugo, Titular Bishop of Medelizi, Birthplace: In Omegna diocese of Novara, April 19, 1914; ordination June 29, 1938. Consecrated as Bishop, Sept 14, 1958. Created and proclaimed Cardinal March 5, 1973. He is the Vicar of His Holiness Pope Paul VI for the diocese of Rome and districts since March 6, 1973. Archpriest of Patriarchal Basilica of Lateran; Great Chancellor of the Pontifical University of the Lateran; member of Sacred Congregation of Sacraments and Divine Worship, member of Sacred Congregation for Priests and Religious; President of Pontifical Works and Preservation of the Faith; President of Pontifical Works and Preservation of the Faith; President and Protector of Liturgical Academy. Became a Mason on February 17, 1969. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:32pm
3. Archbishop Bugnini, Annibale. Birthplace: In Civitella del Lago, diocese of Todi, June 14, 1912; was ordained in 1936 and consecrated on February 13, 1972. Bugnini was Consultant in Sacr. Congregation of Propagation of the Faith; in the Sacr. Congregation of Holy Rites in the section of Sacred Liturgy with commission; in the administrative tribunal he was a perito. Bugnini was the father of the Novus Ordo (New Order). He joined the Masons on April 23, 1963. [note: Msgr. Annibale Bugnini, author of the New Mass, was sacked in July 1975, when unquestionable proof of his being a Freemason was submitted to the Holy See. He has not even been publicly reproved, despite his being subject to automatic excommunication because of his being a Freemason. Archbishop Bugnini continues to exercise a diplomatic function in Iran on behalf of the Vatican.
4. Msgr. Biffi, Franco, Chaplain of the Holy Father and since Oct. 29, 1970. Rector of the Pontifical University of the Lateran. He was initiated into the Masonic Rite on Aug. 15, 1959. 5. Archbishop Casaroli, Agostino, Titular Archbishop of Cartagine. Birthplace: In Castel S. Giovanni, in the diocese of Piacenza, Nov. 24, 1914; ordained on May 29, 1937. Consecrated July 16, 1967, prelatus Domesticus, Secretary of Public Affairs of the Church; Consultor of Sacr. Congregation of Bishops; member of the Commission for Russia; Consultor of Pontifical Commission for Revision of Canon Law; member of Pontifical Commission for Latin America; member of Pontifical Commission for Emigration and Tourism; Sub-secretary of Vatican State on Extraordinary Affairs. Initiated in to the Masonic Rite on Sept. 28, 1957 6. Msgr. Macchi, Pasquale, Prelate of Honour of the Holy Father since June 13, 1964. Minutante of the second class, minor official of 1st grade of Vatican State. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on April 23, 1958. Msgr. Macchi is the private Secretary of the Pope, on whom he depends in order to write speeches and private correspondence. 7. Msgr. Rizzi, Mario, Prelate of the Holy Father since January 21, 1969. Chief of the Office; major official of 2nd class of Sacred Congregation of Oriental Church. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on September 16, 1969 8. Archbishop Brini, Mario. Birthplace; in Piombino, diocese of Massa Marittima, May 11, 1908; ordained June 29, 1938.; consecrated Jan. 28, 1962. Secretary of Sacred Congregation of Oriental Church; member of Pontifical Commission for Russia; Consultor of Commission for Christian Union; Consultor of Pontifical Commission for Revision of Canon Law and for Canon Law of Oriental Church; member of Administration for Convertites; Prelate of all Sacred Congregations. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on July 13, 1969. 9. Msgr. Pinto, Pio Vito, Attache of Secretary of State of Second Class. Notare of 2nd Section of Supreme Tribunal and of Apostolic Signature. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on April 2, 1970 and has monogram initials V.I.P. as very important person. 10. Msgr. Marschiasano, Francesco (from Turin), Prelate of Honour of the Holy Father since Feb. 29, 1972. Sub-secretary of Sacred Congregation for Seminaries and Universities of Study. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on Feb. 4, 1961. 11. Msgr. Virgilio, (Levi) Lovino, Prelatus Domesticus, President of Commission of Sacred Art. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on July 4, 1958. Fr, Virgilio is Assistant Director of L’Osservatore Romano, the Vatican daily paper. 12. Fr. Virgilio, Noe, Vicar General of Fratres de Misericordia. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on June 13, 1959 13. Fr. Alessandro, Gottardi (G. Dv. Pietro). Procurator and Postulator General of Fratelli Maristi. Initiated into the Masonic Rite, on June 13, 1959 14. Bishop Angelini, Fiorenzo, Titular Bishop of Messene. Birthplace: In Rome, Aug 1, 1916; ordained February 3, 1940; consecrated July 19, 1956. Commendator di Spirito Sancto; delegate of Cardinal Vicar of Rome for hospitals. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on Oct, 1957. 15. Cardinal Baggio, Sebastiano (efeso), Protector of the Church Angeli Custodi, Titular Archbishop of Caglari. Birthplace: In Rosa, diocese of Vicenza, May 16, 1913. Ordained Dec. 21, 1935; consecrated on July 26, 1953. From 1964 was in Brazil as Apostolic Nuncio. Created and proclaimed as Cardinal on April 28, 1969. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on Aug. 14, 1957. Cardinal Baggio is the Prefect of the Roman Curia Congregation of Bishops. He controls Bishops. 16. Cardinal Pellegrino, Michele (Turin), Protector of the Church SS-mo Nome di-Gesu, Archbishop of Turin. Birthplace: In Centallo, diocese of Fossano, April 25, 1903; created and proclaimed as Cardinal on June 26, 1967. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on May 2, 1960. 17. Cardinal Suenens, Leo, Josef. Birthplace: In Ixelles, archdiocese of Mechelen Brussels, July 16, 1904; ordained Sept. 4, 1927. Consecrated March 19, 1962, with title and Protector of St. Peter in Chains; created and proclaimed as Cardinal March 19, 1962. He worked as Cardinal in Sacred Congregation of Propaganda Fide, Congregation of Rites and Ceremonies, and Congregation of Seminaries and University Studies. Was in Pontifical Commission for Revision of Canon Law; was delegate and moderator of Vatican II Council; had been affiliated with Pentecostalism. Initiated into the Masonic Rite on June 15, 1967. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:32pm
CANON LAW TELLS
A. An election must begin between the 16th day and the 19th day after the death of the Pope (Canon 84) B. The Cardinal Dean asks the elected Cardinal if he will accept the office C. During the Vacancy, the exercise of supreme authority in the Church is suspected. D. The Cardinal Camerlengo with three Cardinals composes a special congregation (Canon 85). NOTE: The Cardinal Camerlengo presides over the Apostolic Camera. After having assured himself of the death of the Pope, and after having published the death notice, he takes possession of and assumed the government of the Apostolic Palace. He also sees to the safeguarding of the rights of the Holy See. E. At the vacancy of the Holy See, the college of Cardinals and the Roman Curia have no other power that that of the Constitution of Pius XII (see Canon Law, Text and Commentary, pg. 153.) The Constitution abrogates all other previous ordinances. * A. The Cardinals cannot change Church Laws B. Two special congregations of Cardinals, one general and one special are to transact business in order to arrange the Conclave C. The following Cardinals retain their powers: (a) The Cardinals Camerariou. At their head is the Cardinal Camerlengo J. Villot) (b) The Major Penitentiary, for urgent cases; forum conscientiae (c) The Cardinal Chancellor (d) The Cardinal Vicar of Rome (e) The Legates (f) The Nuncios (g) The Apostolic Delegates (h) The Papal Almoner D. The Secretary of State expires and is taken by the Secretary of the Sacred Colleges E. The Sacred College governs the Vatican State F. The Sacred Congregations have no power (see pg. 153 of Canon Law) G. The Tribunal of the Rota and the Signature retain their jurisdiction (no. 24228). Msgr. Pinto Pio Vito is the Mason who holds power of Signatura and does not lose power during the Sede Vacante, i.e. after the Popes death H. The right to elect the Pope belongs exclusively to the Cardinals I. Simony is severely condemned under excommunication, but does not invalidate the election J. Immediately upon his acceptance, the elected Cardinal acquires, by Divine Law, the full power of Jurisdiction MISCELLANEOUS NOTES: 1. HIGH RANKING CHURCH OFFICIALS OF THE VATICAN, ARCHBISHOPS AND BISHOPS ARE ACCUSED OF BEING PART OF MASONRY (El Universal of Mexico, August 10, 1976) Geneva (Agence France Presse). High-ranking Church officials in the Vatican and Archbishops and Bishops of different countries are militant members of Freemasonry, as was denounced yesterday here by the International Committee of Defence of Catholic Tradition. Among them figure none other than some of the principal collaborators of the Pope, such as the Secretary of the Holy Father, Msgr. Pasquale Macchi, the Vatican diplomat Agostino Casaroli and the Secretary of State of the Holy See, Msgr Jean Villot. This presence of the enemies of the Church, in the internal structure of the Church forms a part of the mystery of iniquity and should be unmasked, the international organisation affirmed. The list of prelates accused of being Masons was published by the International Committee of Defence of Catholic Tradition which is formed, as it is affirmed, by renowned personalities of different nations who are identifies in all the force of their Faith as theologians in unity with Catholic Tradition The Integralists, who propose for themselves (to defend the Traditional Church), directly mention the Vatican Secretary of State, Jean Villot, as one having come forth from a French family that produces, from father to son during the last two centuries, Grand Masters of Freemasonry and the Rosicrucians Other high-ranking dignitaries of the Church accused by the International Traditionalist Organisation are the Primate of Belgium, Leo Suenens; the Vicar of His Holiness for the diocese of Rome, Ugo Poletti; the Archbishop of Turin, Michele Pellegrino; and the Prefect of the Roman Curia Congregation of Bishops, Cardinal Baggio. The International Committee of Defense Of Catholic Tradition, after indicating that the Bishop of Lille (Nord, France), Achille Lienart, also belongs to Freemasonry, publicly gave out the same accusation against other bishops. The well-known Vatican diplomat Msgr. Agostino Casaroli and the Private Secretary of the Pope, Msgr. Pasquale Macchi, are also both Masons, according to the International Committee of Defence of Catholic Tradition. Msgr. Casaroli is qualified as the Kissinger of Vatican diplomacy, the great artisan of the opening up to the (Communist) East and all of the scandalous destitution of Cardinal Mindszenty 2. El Universal of Mexico, August 10, 1976 Paris (Agence France Presse). Some French literary personalities sent a letter to Pope Paul VI, published yesterday here by the conservative Le Figaro, asking him to reconsider the sanctions applied to the Traditionalist Bishop Archbishop Lefèbvre. They added that Pope John XIII „esteemed and loved” Lefèbvre, and they indicated later on in the letter: „They are being celebrated everywhere and with impunity certain strange Masses, sometimes ecumenical ones, that have absolutely nothing to do with the Mass of Pope Paul VI.” — Then it would seem that any and all Eucharistic celebrations be tolerated, save the traditional Mass. Prepared by Rev. F.J.G. Rage |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:32pm
II. Masons in the Catholic Church
Masonry undermines all religion. Numerous Popes have spoken and written about the great evils of this secretive and infiltrative organization. In this article, we present our third exposé on Masonry and Freemasonry in an effort to alert the Faithful to a sobering fact: Masonry has entered the Church; or as Pope Paul VI himself said:“The smoke of Satan has entered the Church.” We make no claim to be the authors of the information below. Rather, we have collected it from books and other reliable sources, all of which we give credit to accordingly. The reader is free to draw his own conclusions. We begin with an excerpt from Humanum Genus, Pope Leo XIII’s Encyclical on Freemasonry: “If other proofs are wanting, this fact would be sufficiently disclosed by the testimony of men well informed, of whom some at other times, and others again recently, have declared it to be true of the Freemasons that they especially desire to assail the Church with irreconcilable hostility and that they will never rest until they have destroyed whatever the Supreme Pontiffs have established for the sake of religion. “If those who are admitted as members are not commanded to abjure by any form of words the Catholic doctrines, this omission, so far from adverse to the designs of the Freemasons, is more useful for their purposes. First, in this way they easily deceive the simple-minded and the heedless, and can induce a far greater number to become members. Again, as all who offer themselves are received whatever may be their form of religion, they thereby teach the great error of this age — that a regard for religion should be held as an indifferent matter, and that all religions are alike. This manner of reasoning is calculated to bring about the ruin of all forms of religion, and especially of the Catholic religion, which, as it is the only one that is true, cannot, without great injustice, be regarded as merely equal to other religions.” Anne Catherine Emmerich (1774-1824), a German Augustinian nun, stigmatist (bore the wounds of Christ), and miracle-worker, who subsisted entirely on water and Holy Communion for many years, received numerous visions of the future crisis in the Church and the infiltration of the Masons. In her visions, she describes men in aprons destroying the Church with a trowel, The Masons wear aprons and their symbol is the Mason’s trowel. The following excerpts are from page 565 of Life of Anne Catherine Emmerich, Vol. 1, by Rev. K.E. Schmö:ger, Tan Books, 1976: “I saw St. Peter’s. A great crowd of men was trying to pull it down whilst others constantly built it up again. Lines connected these men one with another and with others throughout the whole world. I was amazed at their perfect understanding. “The demolishers, mostly apostates and members of different sects, broke off whole pieces and worked according to rules and instructions. They wore WHITE APRONS bound with blue riband. In them were pockets and they had TROWELS stuck in their belts. The costumes of the others were various. “There were among the demolishers distinguished men wearing uniforms and crosses. They did not work themselves but they marked out on the wall with aTROWEL where and how it should be torn down. To my horror, I saw among them Catholic Priests. Whenever the workmen did not know how to go on, they went to a certain one in their party. He had a large book which seemed to contain the whole plan of the building and the way to destroy it. They marked out exactly with a TROWEL the parts to be attacked, and they soon came down. They worked quietly and confidently, but slyly, furtively and warily. I saw the Pope praying, surrounded by false friends who often did the very opposite to what he had ordered...” The following is a list of Masons reprinted with some updates from the Bulletin de l’Occident Chrétien Nr.12, July, 1976, (Directeur Pierre Fautrad a Fye – 72490 Bourg Le Roi.) All of the men on this list, if they in fact be Masons, are excommunicated by Canon Law 2338. Each man’s name is followed by his position, if known; the date he was initiated into Masonry, his code #; and his code name, if known. Albondi, Alberto. Bishop of Livorno, (Leghorn). Initiated 8-5-58; I.D. # 7-2431. Abrech, Pio. In the Sacred Congregation Bishops. 11-27-67; # 63-143. Acquaviva, Sabino. Professor of Religion at the University of Padova, (Padua). 12-3-69; # 275-69. Alessandro, Father Gottardi. (Addressed as Doctor in Masonic meetings.) President of Fratelli Maristi. 6-14-59. Angelini Fiorenzo. Bishop of Messenel Greece. 10-14-57; # 14-005. Argentieri, Benedetto. Patriarch to the Holy See. 3-11-70; # 298-A. Bea, Augustin. Cardinal. Secretary of State (next to Pope) under Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI. Baggio, Sebastiano. Cardinal. Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Bishops. (This is a crucial Congregation since it appoints new Bishops.) Secretary of State under Pope John Paul II from 1989 to 1992. 8-14-57; # 85-1640. Masonic code name “SEBA.” He controls consecration of Bishops. Balboni, Dante. Assistant to the Vatican Pontifical . Commission for Biblical Studies. 7-23-68; # 79-14 “BALDA.” Baldassarri Salvatore. Bishop of Ravenna, Italy. 2-19-58; # 4315-19. “BALSA.” Balducci, Ernesto. Religious sculpture artist. 5-16-66; # 1452-3. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:33pm
Basadonna, Ernesto. Prelate of Milan, 9-14-63; # 9-243. “BASE.”
Batelli, Guilio. Lay member of many scientific academies. 8-24-59; # 29-A. “GIBA.” Bedeschi, Lorenzo. 2-19-59; # 24-041. “BELO.” Belloli, Luigi. Rector of Seminar; Lombardy, Ita- ly. 4-6-58; # 22-04. “BELLU.” Belluchi, Cleto. Coadjutor Bishop of Fermo, Italy. 6-4-68; # 12-217. Bettazzi, Luigi. Bishop of Ivera, Italy. 5-11-66; # 1347-45. “LUBE.” Bianchi, Ciovanni. 10-23-69; # 2215-11. “BIGI.” Biffi, Franco, Msgr. Rector of Church of St. John Lateran Pontifical University. He is head of this University and controls what is being taught. He heard confessions of Pope Paul VI. 8-15-59. “BIFRA.” Bicarella, Mario. Prelate of Vicenza, Italy. 9-23-64; # 21-014. “BIMA.” Bonicelli, Gaetano. Bishop of Albano, Italy. 5-12-59; # 63-1428, “BOGA.” Boretti, Giancarlo. 3-21-65; # 0-241. “BORGI.” Bovone, Alberto. Substitute Secretary of the Sacred Office. 3-30-67; # 254-3. “ALBO.” Brini, Mario. Archbishop. Secretary of Chinese, Oriental, and Pagans. Member of Pontifical Commission to Russia. Has control of rewriting Canon Law. 7-7-68; # 15670. “MABRI.” Bugnini, Annibale. Archbishop.Wrote Novus Ordo Mass. Envoy to Iran, 4-23-63; # 1365-75. “BUAN.” Buro, Michele. Bishop. Prelate of Pontifical Commission to Latin America, 3-21-69; # 140-2. “BUMI.” Cacciavillan, Agostino. Secretariat of State. 11-6-60; # 13-154. Cameli, Umberto. Director in Office of the Ecclesiastical Affairs of Italy in regard to education in Catholic doctrine. 11-17-60; # 9-1436. Caprile, Giovanni. Director of Catholic Civil Affairs. 9-5-57; # 21-014. “GICA.” Caputo, Giuseppe. 11-15-71; # 6125-63. “GICAP.” Casaroli, Agostino. Cardinal. Secretary of State (next to Pope) under Pope John Paul II since July 1, 1979 until retired in 1989. 9-28-57; # 41-076. “CASA.” Cerruti, Flaminio. Chief of the Office of the University of Congregation Studies. 4-2-60; # 76-2154. “CEFLA.” Ciarrocchi, Mario. Bishop. 8-23-62; # 123-A. “CIMA.” Chiavacci, Enrico. Professor of Moral Theology, University of Florence, Italy. 7-2-70; # 121-34. “CHIE.” Conte, Carmelo. 9-16-67; # 43-096. “CONCA.” Csele, Alessandro. 3-25-60; # 1354-09. “ALCSE.” Dadagio, Luigi. Papal Nuncio to Spain. Archbishop of Lero. 9-8-67. # 43-B. “LUDA.” D’Antonio, Enzio. Archbishop of Trivento. 6-21-69; # 214-53. De Bous, Donate. Bishop. 6-24-68; # 321-02. “DEBO.” Del Gallo Reoccagiovane, Luigi. Bishop. Del Monte, Aldo. Bishop of Novara, Italy. 8-25-69; # 32-012. “ADELMO.” Faltin, Danielle. 6-4-70; # 9-1207. “FADA.” Ferraioli, Giuseppe. Member of Sacred Congregation for Public Affairs. 11-24-69; # 004-125. “GIFE.” Franzoni, Giovanni. 3-2-65; # 2246-47. “FRAGI.” Gemmiti, Vito. Sacred Congregation of Bishops. 3-25-68; # 54-13. “VIGE.” Girardi, Giulio. 9-8-70; # 1471-52. “GIG.” Fiorenzo, Angelinin. Bishop. Title of Commendator of the Holy Spirit. Vicar General of Roman Hospitals. Controls hospital trust funds. Consecrated Bishop 7-19-56; joined Masons 10-14-57. Giustetti, Massimo. 4-12-70; # 13-065. “GIUMA.” Gottardi, Alessandro. Procurator and Postulator General of Fratelli Maristi. Archbishop of Trent. 6-13-59; # 2437-14. “ALGO.” Gozzini, Mario. 5-14-70; # 31-11. “MAGO.” Grazinai, Carlo. Rector of the Vatican Minor Seminary. 7-23-61; # 156-3. “GRACA.” Gregagnin, Antonio. Tribune of First Causes for Beatification. 10-19-67; # 8-45. “GREA.” Gualdrini, Franco. Rector of Capranica. 5-22-61; # 21-352. “GUFRA.” Ilari, Annibale. Abbot. 3-16-69; # 43-86. “ILA.” Laghi, Pio. Nunzio, Apostolic Delegate to Argentina, and then to U.S.A. until 1995. 8-24-69; # 0-538. “LAPI.” Lajolo, Giovanni. Member of Council of Public Affairs of the Church. 7-27-70; # 21-1397. “LAGI.” Lanzoni, Angelo. Chief of the Office of Secretary of State. 9-24-56; # 6-324. “LANA.” Levi, Virgillio (alias Levine), Monsignor. Assistant Director of Official Vatican Newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano. Manages Vatican Radio Station. 7-4-58; # 241-3. “VILE.” Lozza, Lino. Chancellor of Rome Academy of St. Thomas Aquinas of Catholic Religion. 7-23-69; # 12-768. “LOLI.” Lienart, Achille. Cardinal. Grand Master top Mason. Bishop of Lille, France. Recruits Masons. Was leader of progressive forces at Vatican II Council. Macchi, Pasquale. Cardinal. Pope Paul’s Prelate of Honour and Private Secretary until he was excommunicated for heresy by Pope Paul VI. Was reinstated by Secretary of State Jean Villot, and made a Cardinal. 4-23-58; # 5463-2. “MAPA.” Mancini, Italo. Director of Sua Santita. 3-18-68; # l551-142. “MANI.” Manfrini, Enrico. Lay Consultor of Pontifical Commission of Sacred Art. 2-21-68; # 968-c. “MANE.” |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:34pm
Marchisano, Francesco. Prelate Honour of the Pope. Secretary Congregation for Seminaries and Universities of Studies. 2-4-61; 4536-3. “FRAMA.”
Marcinkus, Paul. American bodyguard for imposter Pope. From Cicero, Illinois. Stands 6’4″. President for Institute for Training Religious. 8-21-67; # 43-649. Called “GORILLA.” Code name “MARPA.” Marsili, Saltvatore. Abbot of Order of St. Benedict of Finalpia near Modena, Italy. 7-2-63; # 1278-49. “SALMA.” Mazza, Antonio. Titular Bishop of Velia. Secretary General of Holy Year, 1975. 4-14-71. # 054-329. “MANU.” Mazzi, Venerio. Member of Council of Public Affairs of the Church. 10-13-66; # 052-s. “MAVE.” Mazzoni, Pier Luigi. Congregation of Bishops. 9-14-59; # 59-2. “PILUM.” Maverna, Luigi. Bishop of Chiavari, Genoa, Italy. Assistant General of Italian Catholic Azione. 6-3-68; # 441-c. “LUMA.” Mensa, Albino. Archbishop of Vercelli, Piedmont, Italy. 7-23-59; # 53-23. ” MENA.” Messina, Carlo. 3-21-70; # 21-045. “MECA.” Messina, Zanon (Adele). 9-25-68; # 045-329. ” AMEZ.” Monduzzi, Dino. Regent to the Prefect of the Pontifical House. 3-11 -67; # 190-2. “MONDI.” Mongillo, Daimazio. Professor of Dominican Moral Theology, Holy Angels Institute of Roma. 2-16-69; # 2145-22. “MONDA.” Morgante, Marcello. Bishop of Ascoli Piceno in East Italy. 7-22-55; # 78-3601. MORMA.” Natalini, Teuzo. Vice President of the Archives of Secretariat of the Vatican. 6-17-67; # 21-44d. “NATE.” Nigro, Carmelo. Rector of the Seminary, Pontifical of Major Studies. 12-21-70; # 23-154. “CARNI.” Noe, Virgillio. Head of the Sacred Congregation of Divine Worship. He and Bugnini paid 5 Protestant Ministers and one Jewish Rabbi to create the Novus Ordo Mass. 4-3-61; # 43652-21. “VINO.” Palestra, Vittorie. He is Legal Council of the Sacred Rota of the Vatican State. 5-6-43; # 1965. “PAVI.” Pappalardo, Salvatore. Cardinal. Archbishop of Palermo, Sicily. 4-15-68; # 234-07. “SALPA.” Pasqualetti, Gottardo. 6-15-60; # 4-231. “COPA.” Pasquinelli, Dante. Council of Nunzio of Madrid. 1-12-69; # 32-124. “PADA.” Pellegrino, Michele. Cardinal. Called “Protector of the Church”, Archbishop of Torino (Turin, where the Holy Shroud of Jesus is kept). 5-2-60; # 352-36. “PALMI.” Piana, Giannino. 9-2-70; # 314-52. “GIPI.” Pimpo, Mario. Vicar of Office of General Affairs. 3-15-70; # 793-43. “PIMA.” Pinto, Monsignor Pio Vito. Attaché of Secretary of State and Notare of Second Section of Supreme Tribunal and of Apostolic Signature. 4-2-70; # 3317-42. “PIPIVI.” Poletti, Ugo. Cardinal. Vicar of S.S. Diocese of Rome. Controls clergy of Rome since 3-6-73. Member of Sacred Congregation of Sacraments and of Divine Worship. He is President of Pontifical Works and Preservation of the Faith. Also President of the Liturgical Academy. 2-17-69; # 32-1425. “UPO.” Rizzi, Monsignor Mario. Sacred Congregation of Oriental Rites. Listed as “Prelate Bishop of Honour of the Holy Father, the Pope.” Works under top-Mason Mario Brini in manipulating Canon Law. 9-16-69; # 43-179. “MARI,” “MONMARI.” Romita, Florenzo. Was in Sacred Congregation of Clergy. 4-21-56; # 52-142. “FIRO.” Rogger, Igine. Officer in S.S. (Diocese of Rome). 4-16-68; # 319-13. “IGRO.” Rossano, Pietro. Sacred Congregation of Non-Christian Religions. 2-12-68; # 3421-a. “PIRO.” Rovela, Virgillio. 6-12-64; # 32-14. “ROVI.” Sabbatani, Aurelio. Archbishop of Giustiniana (Giusgno, Milar Province, Italy). First Secretary Supreme Apostolic Segnatura. 6-22-69; # 87-43. “ASA” Sacchetti, Guilio. Delegate of Governors – Marchese. 8-23-59; # 0991-b. “SAGI.” Salerno, Francesco. Bishop. Prefect Atti. Eccles. 5-4-62; # 0437-1. “SAFRA” Santangelo, Franceso. Substitute General of Defense Legal Counsel. 11-12-70; # 32-096. “FRASA.” Santini, Pietro. Vice Official of the Vicar. 8-23-64; # 326-11. “SAPI.” Savorelli, Fernando. 1-14-69; # 004-51. “SAFE.” Savorelli, Renzo. 6-12-65; # 34-692. “RESA.” Scanagatta, Gaetano. Sacred Congregation of the Clergy. Member of Commission of Pomei and Loreto, Italy. 9-23-71; # 42-023. “GASCA.” Schasching, Giovanni. 3-18-65; # 6374-23. “GISCHA,” “GESUITA.” Schierano, Mario. Titular Bishop of Acrida (Acri in Cosenza Province, Italy.) Chief Military Chaplain of the Italian Armed Forces. 7-3-59; #14-3641. “MASCHI.” Semproni, Domenico. Tribunal of the Vicarate of the Vatican. 4-16-60; # 00-12. “DOSE.” Sensi, Giuseppe Mario. Titular Archbishop of Sardi (Asia Minor near Smyrna). Papal Nunzio to Portugal. 11-2-67; # 18911-47. “GIMASE.” Sposito, Luigi. Pontifical Commission for the Archives of the Church in Italy. Head Administrator of the Apostolic Seat of the Vatican. Suenens, Leo. Cardinal. Title: Protector of the Church of St. Peter in Chains, outside Rome. Promotes Protestant Pentecostalism (Charismatics). Destroyed much Church dogma when he worked in 3 Sacred Congregations: 1) Propagation of the Faith; 2) Rites and Ceremonies in the Liturgy; 3) Seminaries. 6-15-67; # 21-64. “LESU.” Trabalzini, Dino. Bishop of Rieti (Reate, Peruga, Italy). Auxiliary Bishop of Southern Rome. 2-6-65; # 61-956. “TRADI.” Travia, Antonio. Titular Archbishop of Termini Imerese. Head of Catholic schools. 9-15-67; # 16-141. “ATRA.” Trocchi, Vittorio. Secretary for Catholic Laity in Consistory of the Vatican State Consultations. 7-12-62; # 3-896. “TROVI.” Tucci, Roberto. Director General of Vatican Radio. 6-21-57; # 42-58. “TURO.” Turoldo, David. 6-9-67; # 191-44. “DATU.” Vale, Georgio. Priest. Official of Rome Diocese. 2-21-71; # 21-328. “VAGI.” |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:34pm
Vergari, Piero. Head Protocol Officer of the Vatican Office Segnatura. 12-14-70; # 3241-6. “PIVE.”
Villot, Jean. Cardinal. Secretary of State during Pope Paul VI. He is Camerlengo (Treasurer). “JEANNI,” “ZURIGO.” Zanini, Lino. Titular Archbishop of Adrianopoli, which is Andrianopolis, Turkey. Apostolic Nuncio. Member of the Revered Fabric of St. Peter’s Basilica. THE FOLLOWING CLERGY WERE EXPOSED AFTER THE ABOVE LIST WAS COMPILED: Fregi, Francesco Egisto. 2-14-63; # 1435-87. Tirelli, Sotiro. 5-16-63; # 1257-9. “TIRSO.” Cresti, Osvaldo. 5-22-63; # 1653-6. “CRESO.” Rotardi, Tito. 8-13-63; # 1865-34. “TROTA.” Orbasi, Igino. 9-17-73; # 1326-97. “ORBI.” Drusilla, Italia. 10-12-63; # 1653-2. “‘DRUSI “ Ratosi, Tito. 11-22-63; # 1542-74 “TRATO.” Crosta, Sante. 11-17-63; # 1254-65. “CROSTAS. Created July 16, 1996. Ninth update March 14, 1997 by “The Enddays” Ministry Source: http://www..trance.org/essentials/apocalyps/enddays/masonlst.html |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:35pm
CATHOLICS AND THE FREEMASON ‘RELIGION’
Fr. William Saunders What are the Masons? Are Catholics allowed to belong to this organization?—A Reader.The origins of the Masons, or what is officially called Freemasonry, are hard to pinpoint. With the decline of cathedral building in the aftermath of the Protestant movement, the guilds of masons began accepting non-masons as members to bolster their dwindling membership. Eventually, the non-masons outnumbered the masons, and the guilds became places for the discussion of ethics and morality while retaining the secret signs, symbols and gestures of the original guild. Four such guilds merged in 1717 in London, England, to form the Grand Lodge of Freemasons. (A “freemason” was highly skilled mason who enjoyed the privileges of membership in a trade guild.) The Masons then spread throughout the world. Old “handbooks” of Freemasonry define the organization as “a peculiar system of morality veiled in allegory and illustrated by symbols,” “a science which is engaged in the search after the divine truth,” and “the activity of closely united men who, employing symbolic forms borrowed principally from the mason’s trade and others and thereby to bring about a universal league of mankind which they aspire to exhibit even now on a small scale.” James Anderson (d. 1739), a Scottish Presbyterian minister, wrote the <Book of Constitutions> in which he contrived the “traditional,” albeit spurious, history of Freemasonry. Masons hold that God, “the Great Architect,” founded Freemasonry, and that it has as patrons Adam and the Patriarchs. Even Jesus is listed as “the Grand Master” of the Christian Church. They credit themselves with the building of Noah’s ark, the Tower of Babel, the pyramids and Solomon’s Temple. In all, Freemasonry borrows liberally from the history and traditions of cultic groups such as Druids, Mithars, Egyptian priesthood, Rosicrucians and others to weave its own history. The Catholic Church has difficulties with Freemasonry because it is indeed a kind of religion unto itself. The practice of Freemasonry includes temples, altars, a moral code, worship services, vestments, feast days, a hierarchy of leadership, initiation and burial rites, and promises of eternal reward and punishment. While in America most Masons are Christian and will display a Bible on their “altar,” in the same lodges or elsewhere, Jews, Moslems, Hindus or other non-Christian religions can be admitted and may use their own sacred scriptures. (In France, in 1877, the “Grand Orient” Lodge eliminated the need to believe in God or the immortality of the soul, thereby admitting atheists into their fold; this atheistic type of Freemasonry spread particularly in Latin countries.) Moreover, the rituals involve the corruption of Christianity. The cross is merely a symbol of nature and eternal life, devoid of Christ’s sacrifice for sin. INRI (For Christians, “Iesus Nazarenus Rex Iudaeorum,” i.e. Jesus of Nazareth King of the Jews) means for Masons “Igne Natura Renovatur Integra” (“the fire of nature rejuvenates all) referring to the sacred fire’s (truth and love) regeneration of mankind, just as the sun regenerates nature in the Spring. The rituals are also inimical to Catholicism. During the initiation rite, the candidate expresses a desire to seek “light,” and he is assured he will receive the light of spiritual instruction that he could not receive in another Church, and that he will gain eternal rest in the “celestial lodge” if he lives and dies according to Masonic principles. Note also that since Masonry involves non-Christians, the use of the name of Jesus is forbidden within the lodge. A strong Anti-Catholicism also permeates Freemasonry. The two traditional enemies of Freemasonry are the royalty and the papacy. Masons even believe that Christ, dying on Calvary, was the “greatest among the apostles of humanity, braving Roman despotism and the fanaticism and bigotry of the priesthood.” When one reaches the 30th degree in the masonic hierarchy, called the Kadosh, the person crushes with his foot the papal tiara and the royal crown, and swears to free mankind “from the bondage of despotism and the thraldom of spiritual tyranny.” A second difficulty with Freemasonry for Catholics involves taking of oaths. An oath is a religious act which asks God to witness the truth of the statement or the fulfillment of a promise. Only the Church and the state, for serious reasons, can require an oath. A candidate makes an oath to Freemasonry and its secrets under pain of death or self-mutilation by kneeling blindfolded in front of the altar, placing both hands on the volume of sacred law (perhaps the Bible), the square and the compass, and repeating after the “worshipful master.” Keep in mind that the candidate does not yet even know all the “secrets” to which he is taking an oath. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:36pm
more endless drivel from the Fat Drongo
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:37pm
A second difficulty with Freemasonry for Catholics involves taking of oaths. An oath is a religious act which asks God to witness the truth of the statement or the fulfillment of a promise. Only the Church and the state, for serious reasons, can require an oath. A candidate makes an oath to Freemasonry and its secrets under pain of death or self-mutilation by kneeling blindfolded in front of the altar, placing both hands on the volume of sacred law (perhaps the Bible), the square and the compass, and repeating after the “worshipful master.” Keep in mind that the candidate does not yet even know all the “secrets” to which he is taking an oath.
The history of Freemasonry has proven its anti-Catholic nature. In the United States, one of the leaders of Freemasonry, General Albert Pike (d. 1891) referred to the papacy as “a deadly, treacherous enemy,” and wrote, “The papacy has been for a thousand years the torturer and curse of humanity, the most shameless imposture, in its pretense to spiritual power of all ages.” In France, in 1877, and in Portugal in 1910, Freemasons took control of the government for a time and enacted laws to restrict the activities of the Church, particularly in education. In Latin America, the Freemasons have expressed anti-Church and anti-clerical sentiment. Since the decree “In Eminenti” of Pope Clement XII in 1738, Catholics have been forbidden to join the Masons, and until 1983, under pain of excommunication. (The Orthodox and several Protestant churches also ban membership in the Masons.) Confusion occurred in 1974, when a letter by Cardinal Franjo Seper, then prefect of the Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, was interpreted to mean that Catholics could join Masonic lodges that were not anti-Catholic; the same congregation declared this interpretation as erroneous in 1981. On Nov. 26, 1983, with the approval of Pope John Paul II, the Sacred Congregation reiterated the ban on Catholics joining the Masons: “The Church’s negative position on Masonic association … remains unaltered, since their principles have always been regarded as irreconcilable with the Church’s doctrine. Hence, joining them remains prohibited by the Church. Catholics enrolled in masonic associations are involved in serious sin and may not approach Holy Communion.” However, neither this declaration nor the 1983 <Code of Canon Law> imposed the penalty of excommunication on Catholics belonging to the Masons. Fr. Saunders is president of the Notre Dame Institute and pastor of Queen of Apostles Parish, both in Alexandria. ______________ and so , from the very inception of the masonic rite, to ask for " light " from the alter of freemasonry is to deny the christ light within thine heart at the very quick .. as soon as you sign up for freemasonry you extinguish the light within thine heart and accept the light of lucifer .. circa albert pike .. https://www.christian-restoration.com/fmasonry/lucquotes.htm Quote:
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:42pm |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:42pm
weak end ,
did the romans crucify and murder the CHRIST ? tell me , being a "christian" as ye are .. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:49pm
Have you forgotten light, you've lost the right to ask others questions on here?
You need to earn that back after all the times you ignore questions people put to you, even when they're as simple as clarifying your point, not even justifying it. You've got a long way to do before you have any standing to make any sort of demands for information... |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 11th, 2019 at 6:15pm
many blessings ,
some are deluded in thinking one such as I am needs any permission or approval to do as I am want to do .. we lol as we continue , Pope Paul VI himself said:“The smoke of Satan has entered the Church.” and look who showed up yet many still get programmed by freemasons in the church yes ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 11th, 2019 at 7:26pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 11th, 2019 at 5:05pm:
Longy - don't lie - no more ad hominems - tell us about the prosperity message in your church? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CoaZOtVagg |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:58pm
You are a weirdo, booby. To you, the idea of prosperity is somehow evil. No wonder you like poverty-nail so much.
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:39pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
You can't get out of it that easily. Will God buy you a Rolex like Benny Hinn's? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:32pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 5:39pm:
This is a moderately complex issue requiring a bit more intelligence, education and ability than you can bring to the table. Like loser-nail, your gay-lover, you treat every issue as a binary one. It is one of the more obvious reasons why most posters here on both sides of any topic, think you are an intellectual light-weight. Because you are. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:38pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:32pm:
Longy, go and get a miracle from Benny Hinn & you might even get a Rolex as well. You're a fool for believing the Evangelical Christian nonsense. You call others gay but I suspect that you're gay. You can't stop thinking about bottoms. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:58pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 4:58pm:
And yet the bible says the following and you and most of the other hypocrites do the complete opposite :D LOL Quote:
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 12th, 2019 at 9:58pm
Good post Nail,
Longy is a hypocrite who goes to a church that agrees with his heretical ideas. The Bible doesn't encourage people to be wealthy or worship material goods. Longy is a fake Christian. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 12th, 2019 at 10:35pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
LOL bobby, Tell LW to read his bible! ;) If scripture can be believed by a believer, the O.T. and N.T., is the Word of God. I believe it. How about you LW. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 12th, 2019 at 10:48pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 6:38pm:
╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 13th, 2019 at 11:46am Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
Where is Longy? He can't get out of that. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by tickleandrose on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:10pm
well, I know that in Christianity, not just evangelicals. Its not prosperity that is sinful. But rather, human life - itself is sinful to start with. And only through Christ, + repent +/- church (depending if you are catholic or protestant) that your sins can be repented.
Having money per se is not a sin by default, however, the lure of earthly possessions on our lewd mortal body often lead us into temptation, and the 7 deadly sins. ;) So having no possessions at all, takes away those temptations. But, is having nothing at all, the path to enlightenment? THAT is the ultimate quest for human life. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 13th, 2019 at 6:37pm tickleandrose wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
But Longy has run away - he can't face the powerful argument. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm Yadda wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 10:35pm:
you know very little about the bible - only what verses you can Google. The Bible is to be interpreted with the Holy Spirit and a bit more understanding than either of you can come up with. That is built by a one-on-one relationship with God. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:34pm tickleandrose wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
The bible does not reject wealth or prosperity. It does however articulate the risks that wealth can pose and at the same tie rejecting poverty. Not new to people who actually go to church and actually read the bible rather than simply google verses to support their viewpoint. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
dear Longy, tell us all how you follow these teachings: Matthew 6:19 Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Luke 14:33 Any of you who does not give up everything he has cannot be my disciple. Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and Money. Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me." Hebrews 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you." Phil 2:3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit, but in humility consider others better than yourselves. Acts 2:44-45 All the believers were together and had everything in common. Selling their possessions and goods, they gave to anyone as he had need. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:41pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:32pm:
now is your chance longprong to prove your superior intellect. Refute those verses :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:42pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:34pm:
But it does say to pass it onto the needy and not hoard it like you hypocrites do ;) |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:42am tickleandrose wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
Not really. Having no possessions, does not relieve us of lust and temptation. Having possessions/money is not a sin. It is the lusting, for such, which is the wrong [against God]. ....which is idolatry [....loving the things in this world]. Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law? 37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. 38 This is the first and great commandment. Possessions ? 1 Timothy 6:9 But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. 10 For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. 1 Timothy 6:6 But godliness with contentment is great gain. Ecclesiastes 7:16 Be not righteous over much; neither make thyself over wise: why shouldest thou destroy thyself? Even if we divested ourselves of all our possessions/money, that wouldn't necessarily mean a blessed, happy and peaceful life, ....if we were to return to lusting after, possessions and money. Try to be grateful [to God], and happy for the good things we have. Try to help others in hardship, if/when we can. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 14th, 2019 at 4:45am Bobby. wrote on Mar 13th, 2019 at 9:37pm:
and now you prove my point - that you dont understand these scriptures, nor their context. you just googled away hoping for the best. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 5:25am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 4:45am:
Longy, tell us all how you follow these teachings? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 5:26am Yadda wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:42am:
Hi Yadda, but do you agree that Longy doesn't follow the teachings listed? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sad KangAnon on Mar 14th, 2019 at 6:28am it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 10:48pm:
There we go again. You can't accuse others of being homophobic when you pull this crap sweetheart. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 14th, 2019 at 9:56am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 4:45am:
the old out of context argument is wheeled out yet once again by the men in charge :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 14th, 2019 at 9:58am Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 5:25am:
longprong goes to church each week to see who has got better clothes and a better car :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:49am
Hi Nail,
Longy is living his life based on heretical teachings of evangelical churches. Even evidence in black and white has failed to bring him to his senses. I would say that he's a lost soul. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:30pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 5:26am:
I just read the bible mate, and i hope some of the wisdom in its words 'seep through' the ether, into my thick mind. bobby, As long as LW doesn't want to cut YOUR head off [coz you hold differing views to him], i'm happy for LW to worship the God of his choice, and to follow that path which his God has set out before him. . "Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper." KJV |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:35pm Yadda wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
So endlessly quote, but not live by it? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:43pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:35pm:
Those are your words. That is your judgement, of me. That's OK. I can bear that burden. You don't have any wish to cut my head off, do you ? :) . Matthew 6:5 And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. 6 But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Matthew 12:46 While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him. 47 Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee. 48 But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren? 49 And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren! 50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother. Scripture was given, as God's testimony and witness to man. 1 Corinthians 10:1-14 Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. "....And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31 Matthew 15:3 .....Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition? Mark 7:13 Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye. Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. 10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ. 11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant. 12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted. 13 But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Luke 17:21 ....behold, the kingdom of God is within you. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:49pm Yadda wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:30pm:
Longy has cherry picked certain parts of the Bible that agree with his point of view. This has been taught to him by evangelical churches teaching heresy. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:53pm Yadda wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:43pm:
Not anymore than anyone else does. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:21pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:35pm:
That's what 'pseudo Christians' so. I dont quote the Bible endlessly on here though I could, quite easily. Most people on here wouldnt know the context or background to any of it and without a detailed explanation, even "The Truth will set you free" gets misunderstood. BTW, 'the Truth' is actually not facts, but Jesus Himself. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:23pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:49pm:
detail these heretical teachings then booby. And remember that disagreeing with your opinion or fact-free beliefs dont count. Heresy is about rejecting the Biblical teaching. And a basic standard is that you must use THREE scriptures to prove your point. Go for it, booby. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:26pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
Tell me about it, after the last 2 weeks at my uni |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:54pm
And Celebrities throwing themselves like special better than thou, holy people of the Media world. ::)
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:59pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:26pm:
Getting annoyed with people who cant make an informed' intelligent and contextual argument on a topic? and you come here????? LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 5:29pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:23pm:
No Longy - why don't you follow these teachings? Quote:
You believe in the prosperity message which is heresy - in total contradiction to the above text - and you must show the Bible passages which back up your belief. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 14th, 2019 at 7:14pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 2:53pm:
LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 14th, 2019 at 7:18pm Yadda wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 7:14pm:
Hi Yadda, you're the expert at Ozpolitic on the Bible. Would you agree that Longy has heretical beliefs in direct contradiction to the Bible? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 14th, 2019 at 10:16pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 7:18pm:
Yadda doesnt go to Church. Neither do you. Debating biblical theology with you would be like you debating particle physics with an actual physicist. You are unqualified and uneducated - both of you - to even be in the debate. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Karnal on Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:00pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
Longy's a Biblical scholar and published writer, Bobby. Of course he can provide the passages where Jesus said to be rich, prosperous and effluent. He's that good. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 15th, 2019 at 6:11am Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:00pm:
Let's see Longy step up to the plate - he hasn't yet. He just avoids this one and he's done so for over 10 years, starting at Yahoo politics. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 15th, 2019 at 6:13am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 10:16pm:
Nail knows more about the Bible than you, and so do I. Yadda knows more than all of us put together. You're avoiding answering the question using ad hominem attacks. You're a phoney. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 15th, 2019 at 8:23am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 3:59pm:
Well its release. I can't say what I truly feel about some students work. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 15th, 2019 at 9:49am Karnal wrote on Mar 14th, 2019 at 11:00pm:
longprong couldn't write a comic strip :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:06am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 8:23am:
I get that!! As part of my job I do copy-editing on independent books. the quality varies from excellent amateur to manuscripts that need work on every line. It bends my brain sometimes, but I still enjoy it - mostly. Coming on here does release tension when coming up against truly ignorant morons. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:06am Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 9:49am:
few can, idiot. For starters, you need to be a pretty accomplished artist. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:28am Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 6:13am:
keep telling urself that, booby. You just embarrass yourself even more. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:37am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:28am:
Looks like you can't answer the questions. forgiven namaste |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 15th, 2019 at 12:03pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 11:37am:
you are such a d3s/dt3 |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 5:26am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 15th, 2019 at 12:03pm:
Longy, you were owned in this thread. You have no answers. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:16am Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 5:26am:
you cant own ANYONE in debate. So let me ask you these few biblical questions. 1) who is the central character in the Bible 2) who authored the Bible 3) explain Grace to me 4) what is a biblical 'type' now go and google and see if you can get the correct answers. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:17am Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 5:26am:
quite correct brother being , you have whipped weak end mercilessly an easy task , yet well done again namaste |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 11:09am it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:17am:
you are such a d3s/dt3 and you dont even know what that means. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:26pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:17am:
dear master Light, it was very simple. Nail came up with the passages in the Bible. Longy couldn't cope and started ad hominem attacks e.g d3s/dt3 = jerk. ( from physics) Then there was a simple question by me: No Longy - why don't you follow these teachings? Quote:
You believe in the prosperity message which is heresy - in total contradiction to the above text - and you must show the Bible passages which back up your belief. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:31pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:26pm:
so you CANT answer my bible quiz. Well, if you cant answer my question, I wont waste my time answering yours. try again, booby. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:38pm
Longy,
You believe in the prosperity message which is heresy - in total contradiction to the above text - and you must show the Bible passages which back up your belief. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:43pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:26pm:
many blessings brother being and yes it is how you say it to be so .. weak end is a godless heathen , I shall retreat to the pyramid and pray for his heathen heart namaste ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 1:02pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:43pm:
yes - it is true - Longy has a God and it is called money. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 2:10pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
The pharisees asked jesus a question and he replied with a question of his own. When they refused to answer His question, he refused to answer theirs. Just doing the same. When you can answer my questions - which are very easy - I will reply to yours. Lift your game, hypocrite. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:19pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 2:10pm:
Longy, Even master Light's prayers haven't helped you. It seems like you're a hopeless case living only for as much prosperity as you can acquire. This is heresy - your life is heresy. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:38pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:19pm:
LOL you are acting like the PHARISEES OF Jesus' time i couldnt make you any less predictably dense it I tried. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:49pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:19pm:
many blessings brother being , I have advanced from the pyramid after praying for the godless heathen weak end .. yet Lo .. he is lost and by his own choosing , much whoa shall be upon him ! repent weak end before it is too late ! https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+32&version=NIV The Golden Calf 32 When the people saw that Moses was so long in coming down from the mountain, they gathered around Aaron and said, “Come, make us gods[a] who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.” 2 Aaron answered them, “Take off the gold earrings that your wives, your sons and your daughters are wearing, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off their earrings and brought them to Aaron. 4 He took what they handed him and made it into an idol cast in the shape of a calf, fashioning it with a tool. Then they said, “These are your gods,[b] Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.” 5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar in front of the calf and announced, “Tomorrow there will be a festival to the Lord.” 6 So the next day the people rose early and sacrificed burnt offerings and presented fellowship offerings. Afterward they sat down to eat and drink and got up to indulge in revelry. 7 Then the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, because your people, whom you brought up out of Egypt, have become corrupt. 8 They have been quick to turn away from what I commanded them and have made themselves an idol cast in the shape of a calf. They have bowed down to it and sacrificed to it and have said, ‘These are your gods, Israel, who brought you up out of Egypt.’ 9 “I have seen these people,” the Lord said to Moses, “and they are a stiff-necked people. 10 Now leave me alone so that my anger may burn against them and that I may destroy them. Then I will make you into a great nation.” 11 But Moses sought the favor of the Lord his God. “Lord,” he said, “why should your anger burn against your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with great power and a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, ‘It was with evil intent that he brought them out, to kill them in the mountains and to wipe them off the face of the earth’? Turn from your fierce anger; relent and do not bring disaster on your people. 13 Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac and Israel, to whom you swore by your own self: ‘I will make your descendants as numerous as the stars in the sky and I will give your descendants all this land I promised them, and it will be their inheritance forever.’” 14 Then the Lord relented and did not bring on his people the disaster he had threatened. 15 Moses turned and went down the mountain with the two tablets of the covenant law in his hands. They were inscribed on both sides, front and back. 16 The tablets were the work of God; the writing was the writing of God, engraved on the tablets. 17 When Joshua heard the noise of the people shouting, he said to Moses, “There is the sound of war in the camp.” 18 Moses replied: “It is not the sound of victory, it is not the sound of defeat; it is the sound of singing that I hear.” 19 When Moses approached the camp and saw the calf and the dancing, his anger burned and he threw the tablets out of his hands, breaking them to pieces at the foot of the mountain. 20 And he took the calf the people had made and burned it in the fire; then he ground it to powder, scattered it on the water and made the Israelites drink it. 21 He said to Aaron, “What did these people do to you, that you led them into such great sin?” 22 “Do not be angry, my lord,” Aaron answered. “You know how prone these people are to evil. 23 They said to me, ‘Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who brought us up out of Egypt, we don’t know what has happened to him.’ 24 So I told them, ‘Whoever has any gold jewelry, take it off.’ Then they gave me the gold, and I threw it into the fire, and out came this calf!” 25 Moses saw that the people were running wild and that Aaron had let them get out of control and so become a laughingstock to their enemies. 26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites rallied to him. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:49pm
26 So he stood at the entrance to the camp and said, “Whoever is for the Lord, come to me.” And all the Levites rallied to him.
27 Then he said to them, “This is what the Lord, the God of Israel, says: ‘Each man strap a sword to his side. Go back and forth through the camp from one end to the other, each killing his brother and friend and neighbor.’” 28 The Levites did as Moses commanded, and that day about three thousand of the people died. 29 Then Moses said, “You have been set apart to the Lord today, for you were against your own sons and brothers, and he has blessed you this day.” 30 The next day Moses said to the people, “You have committed a great sin. But now I will go up to the Lord; perhaps I can make atonement for your sin.” 31 So Moses went back to the Lord and said, “Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. 32 But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.” 33 The Lord replied to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me I will blot out of my book. 34 Now go, lead the people to the place I spoke of, and my angel will go before you. However, when the time comes for me to punish, I will punish them for their sin.” 35 And the Lord struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:52pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:49pm:
I can only imagine what you THINK you are saying, but googling a randome bit of the Bible and posting it reveals nothing more than the random neuron-firing that you think is intelligence. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:53pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:52pm:
dear Lord , please forgive weakend for making slight of your word .. he is a corrupted heathen yet we forgive him , please have mercy upon his godless hide 35 And the Lord struck the people with a plague because of what they did with the calf Aaron had made. namaste ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:58pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:49pm:
dear master Light, many blessings. I'm afraid the story of the Golden Calf and worshiping false Gods of money and wealth is too far above Longy's head to comprehend. forgive him namaste |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:01pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
the pharasees at least knew the Law. You are completely ignorant which is why you cant easily answer my question because they would be complex to google. You hve to actually KNOW and have STUDIED the topic. You are so easy to best in a debate that it is almost evil to do so. almost... |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:05pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
31 So Moses went back to the Lord and said, “Oh, what a great sin these people have committed! They have made themselves gods of gold. 32 But now, please forgive their sin—but if not, then blot me out of the book you have written.” |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:13pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:05pm:
What the hell goes on inside your head? Anything coherent? fat moron. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:32pm
Longy,
you're a victim of Evangelical Christians who have taught you heresy in direct contradiction of the Bible and the words of Jesus himself. Can't you see that? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:47pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:32pm:
since you cant answer BASIC questions on biblical christianity, why do you think your commentary has any worth? ANSWER THE QUESTIONS, COWARD |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:56pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:47pm:
Longy, Since you can't understand the Golden Calf story - you're not responsible for your actions and as such you're forgiven on the grounds of mental incompetence. namaste |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 5:12pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 4:56pm:
Answer the questions, if you are so smart. If you are unwilling to answer BASIC questions then you clearly lack the education and information to engage with me on issues of theology. Just like you are inadequate in most areas of debate. You are a joke, booby. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 5:15pm
Are you afraid to answer the questions, booby? Yadda is as well and yet, they are pretty basic ones... but not easy to google. So you are both stuffed.
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 6:24pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 5:12pm:
Longy, your questions are simple - I won't bother answering them - it's just a diversion from the main point. You can't beat me in an argument by doing that. Why do you follow heretical teachings directly in contradiction of the Bible? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 6:49pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 6:24pm:
pathetic... you CANT answer them coz you cant easily google them. too easy |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 7:09pm
Longy,
Why do you follow heretical teachings directly in contradiction of the Bible? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:36pm
this is for booby
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 16th, 2019 at 10:24pm Much too long a post, for bobby. Sorry bobby. :) longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:16am:
The grace of God, is available to all men. But it is only offered to those who qualify as His children. The children of the spirit [of God]. grace = = 1 elegance of movement. 2 courteous good will. an attractively polite manner of behaving. 3 the free and unearned favour of God. a divinely given talent or blessing. a person’s favour. John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. God offers to men, freedom, from the bondage which we experience, in this flesh. John 4:24 God is a Spirit.... There is the state of 'freedom', and there is the state of 'bondage'. "They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God..." Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. 8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed. Romans 8:13 For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. 14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: 17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. While we are in the world, we are all, 'in bondage under the elements of the world'. Galatians 4:1 Now I say, That the heir, as long as he is a child, differeth nothing from a servant, though he be lord of all; 2 But is under tutors and governors until the time appointed of the father. 3 Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world: 4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, 5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons. what is a biblical 'type'? We are, 'strangers in a strange land.' If we seek God [God's righteousness] we are they who, "desire a better country..." Do we seek it ? Yes! ....we do! Hebrews 11:8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. 9 By faith he sojourned in the land of promise, as in a strange country, dwelling in tabernacles with Isaac and Jacob, the heirs with him of the same promise: Hebrews 11:14 ...they that say such things declare plainly that they seek a country. 15 And truly, if they had been mindful of that country from whence they came out, they might have had opportunity to have returned. 16 But now they desire a better country, that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. Galatians 4:28 Now we, brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise. 29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now. 30 Nevertheless what saith the scripture? Cast out the bondwoman and her son: for the son of the bondwoman shall not be heir with the son of the freewoman. 31 So then, brethren, we are not children of the bondwoman, but of the free. LW, Can freedom [that freedom which God offers to us] be acquired by being a member of a church, where we are still, under the bondage of other men ? Those clerics, in churches, they are not leading us to the kingdom of God. !!!! "....for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you." Those clerics are able to point the way, but many of them, will instead say, 'tarry here a while, and find your rest'. Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. John 4:24 God is a Spirit.... The spirit of God. Psalms 25:9 The meek will he guide in judgment: and the meek will he teach his way. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 16th, 2019 at 10:25pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 8:16am:
The grace of God, is available to all men. But it is only offered to those who qualify as His children. The children of the spirit [of God]. grace = = 1 elegance of movement. 2 courteous good will. an attractively polite manner of behaving. 3 the free and unearned favour of God. a divinely given talent or blessing. a person’s favour. A parable The marriage of the king's son... Matthew 22:1 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said, 2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son, 3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come. 4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage. 5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise: 6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them. 7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city. 8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy. 9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage. 10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. 11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: 12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. 13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. 14 For many are called, but few are chosen. LW, Why doesn't the rejected wedding guest qualify, to be in attendance at the son's marriage ? Even though he was invited ! Why is he roughly ejected ? What was he lacking ? 'For many are called, but few are chosen.' What is the warning, in this parable ? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 16th, 2019 at 10:31pm
Thanks Yadda,
you're our Bible expert. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:17am Yadda wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 10:24pm:
I expected little from you, Yadda and even the I over-estimated you. The answers are simple and short - while being expansive topics. All you did is through some verses down, chuck a few barely-connected words together and think it makes an answer. it does not. You didnt answer a single question. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 4:42pm
Watch booby and yadda run away. Their claimed 'expertise' is nothing more than that of a 'googlespert'
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:19pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 4:42pm:
Longy, You still haven't backed up your prosperity message with any evidence. You're nothing but a trolling clown. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:50pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:19pm:
you cant answer my FOUR BASIC QUESTIONS of biblical theology. If you cannot answer such basic questions, you have no worth in a debate on other doctrines. You arent educated or informed enough to engage in the debate. now go back and answer those questions. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:54pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:50pm:
Nail and I know a lot more than you about the Bible - other posters here are like theologians compared to you. ( Look at Yadda ) You've presented nothing but a few kids questions. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by John Smith on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:56pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
that there is your problem longy. When dealing with bobby, you'll have to keep the questions at toddler levels at best. Kids level is far to complicated for him. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:07pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
questions you CANT ANSWER. damn, it is easy to flog u in debate. You shoot yourself in the flipper all the time. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:08pm John Smith wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 5:56pm:
he is really quite stupid and wants to be thought of as smart. but actual smart people dont start debates in areas in which they have little education or experience. Boobly knows next to nothing about the bible or church and gay-nail is no better. It is like arguing with a loud-mouthed child and little more. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:10pm
Longy once stated that he was a Bible scholar yet
he can't post one line from the Bible to agree with his prosperity message as rammed down his throat by those damned Evangelical Christians. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:16pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:10pm:
When you can answer MY questions, I will answer yours. Until then you are a whiny little toddler needing a nappy change. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS Yadda has also run off and hidden. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:21pm
A Bible scholar. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:48pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:21pm:
and schooling you in every post. idiot |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Yadda on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:48pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 6:16pm:
LW, My time is too precious, for me to waste it, playing your 'pea and thimble' "Oh look! You missed the pea again. Aaaaaw." |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:51pm Yadda wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:48pm:
and you cant answer BASIC BIBLICAL THEOLOGY questions. exposing your ignorance is easy... and fun. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 8:01pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:51pm:
The fake Bible scholar called Longy is owned by Yadda. ;D |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 8:02pm Yadda wrote on Mar 16th, 2019 at 10:25pm:
Good post Yadda. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 17th, 2019 at 8:24pm
Protestants: Evangelists, United, Hillsong, Little Pebble, Jehovah Witness, Presbyterian, Baptist, Church of England, Lutheran and more....
all wishing they were Jewish ::) |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by mortdooley on Mar 17th, 2019 at 8:55pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 7:51pm:
Please stop while you are behind, you don't help this way! |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 17th, 2019 at 10:32pm Mortdooley wrote on Mar 17th, 2019 at 8:55pm:
You are free to answer these questions. Remember, they are basic biblical doctrine, but because they arent easily googled, you people cant answer it. It is exposing the faux-christianity which some of you display. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:10am
Longy once stated that he was a Bible scholar yet
he can't post one line from the Bible to agree with his prosperity message as rammed down his throat by those damned Evangelical Christians. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 18th, 2019 at 7:53am Bobby. wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:10am:
You are so easily exposed as a fraud, booby. It was fun playing... ANSWER THE QUESTIONS |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 18th, 2019 at 1:34pm
Longy,
answer the question. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 18th, 2019 at 1:36pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:10am:
So gay. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 18th, 2019 at 5:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 1:36pm:
he is quite the child, unable to answer 4 basic questions on a topic he presumes to have expertise. Showing up him and toenail - and Yadda - has been exceptionally easy. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Richdude on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:13pm
Weak End is a fraud and not to be taken seriously. He is not a Christian - he thinks that Jesus started the church!!! He also thinks that pedophilia is OK!!!
"Man cannot have 2 masters" - Weak End has Mammon. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:21am Richdude wrote on Mar 18th, 2019 at 11:13pm:
So you cant answer these 4 BASIC biblical theology questions either. You are the fake, fake-phd. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:48am
The process of Religion is...
To understand 'Youth' and its fall from the Garden, via the Oldest Book of Judaism. To understand 'Adulthood' and its duality of attaining a partner via the Book of Christianity. To understand 'Old Age' and its rise back into the Garden, via the Youngest Book of Mohommedism. The lack of 99.9% of all Religious people to 'convert' between the Three Monotheisms that also represent Asia, Europe and Africa specifically - as deemed by the Middle-East's view, shows why they are all 'messed' up and unable to 'Grow' in the right way as people. Be a boy as a Jew Be a man as a Christian Be an old man as a Moslem ...yeah, nah - too much for simple Humans to comprehend and deal with. Which is a shame - for the reward to do such is great. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:55am Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:48am:
complete nonsense. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:58am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:55am:
You always were the ignorant type - in the 99.9% of 'Igors'. ::) |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 19th, 2019 at 7:15am
many blessings
and here we have weak end , holding aloft some edited book of antiquity authorized by the romans .. the same ones that killed yeshua and crucified HIM , stole HIS church and named it what it is now ..the roman catholic church / the vatican ( an extremely rich and peadophilic / satanic organization that could feed the whole world in less than 1 hour ) these ones were responsible for the murderous inquisition , https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition a military operation to kill burn murder all that that oppose their ideology and system of domination and control . to invade land and call all the original people non original, or ab original .. the legal connotations of which are binding to this day in a court of law , and yet everyone born upon this world is indigenous .. yet people are divided, bound and ruled through neo feudalism and the hegelian dialectic this system owns your birth certificate which has a number on the back of it ( all caps/ capital letters http://omnithought.org/why-your-legal-name-written-all-capital-letters/1849 )and is identified in any magistrate court or court of law , they look for the birth certificate and get you , the living flesh and flowing blood to commit perjury and create joinder , in saying that YOU are the birth certificate ( a piece of paper issued at your birth without your consent yet through the ignorance of your parents [ authority * ] ) and presided over by " the holy see " using admiralty law to incarcerate unwilling/willing through ignorance , dupes /chattel . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRXD-2Pyn1A this group that stole HIS church has revised and edited the ' bible throughout his~story many many times by cardinals and bishops https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Development_of_the_Christian_biblical_canon creating a book , of which ,the central characters of the story being " god " as told though the son " jesus " [ je = son of sus = zues aka son of zeus ala roman god not yeshua] and the disciples , yet as we see today ,with deliberate omissions from the book of enoch ( had to take that one out ) gospel of thomas circa nag hammadi scrolls and suchnessess .. many uninformed hateful satanists hide behind this modern book and use it, weaponize it to attack humanity .. invoking some " authority " of them being loving xtian types yet attacking and abusing all people in their vicinity and surrounding area .. not very loving or CHRIST like huh ? because these idiots and mindless possessed dupes ( possessed yes for the demonics that control them have no CHRIST in them like ye beloved , so they know not of that which you are only the fact that ye are an enemy unto those ) are controlled and manipulated by negative spirit beings , they are lost yet fear not, for the christ is within all HU~MAN beings within thine sacred heart beloveds as above ~ so below , we see it unfold here as well , for we see , we know Quote:
namaste ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:07am Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 6:58am:
yeah... coz your reputation here is one of clarity and accuracy. LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:37am
Longy,
master Light can at least post something meaningful - you've posted nothing of any consequence - yet you boast that you're a Bible scholar. You're a fake like Benny Hinn. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:41am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:07am:
Nah. Because my education was wagging school ever since Primary and hanging out in University Libraries to get a real education and understanding as to 'why and how' the World works. I was 'researching' long before you or most get to the age to learn how to research via Uni. I have a sibling who runs one of the biggest accountancy firms and another in ASIO. You just drive a Jaguar. ::) |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:08am Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:41am:
a sibling... pathetic. And you arent allowed to tell people you are even IN asio, not to siblings so that is a lie. pitiful |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:10am Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 8:37am:
poor booby, totally trounced by 4 simple questions that you cannot answer. 4 BASIC questions of biblical theology that anyone with an actual knowledge of the bible and attendance at church would know. you are UNQUALIFIED to debate me on this and until you show me you are up to a credible standard, I will not bother. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 12:10pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:10am:
Yadda gave you an excellent reply - I couldn't improve on it. You have presented nothing. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Richdude on Mar 19th, 2019 at 12:32pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:08am:
So there you have it. We have for a long time suspected it. This lying POS gives himself away. How would you know that if you weren't a member of ASIO? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 2:18pm Richdude wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 12:32pm:
rather obvious, huh? Same way I knew that Mechanic was recently released from jail. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 2:19pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 12:10pm:
hardly. His reply was incomprehensible and absolutely off-topic. So, booby, are you going to give a try at answering these 4 question? Have a go at just one and see how you fare. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 2:48pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 11:08am:
;D ;D If I had a dollar for every person in ASIO who told me they are in ASIO. ;D "Gee mate. Nice bullet proof windows. You must be in ASIO." ASIO member: "In ASIO - we are not allowed to tell you that we are in ASIO." Gee. Now where was I when the Chinese taught ASIO a lesson and hacked into all their networks for 'spying' on them? Oh yeah - I was with an ASIO member (not my sibling) and told him "that'll teach yas for going in without a back-up plan." ;D |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 3:29pm Jasin wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 2:48pm:
and your mindless drivel continues... Why do you think Mechanic does not contest my statement about him being in jail? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 19th, 2019 at 3:31pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 2:19pm:
Longy, Incomprehensible to someone who doesn't know anything about the Bible. I understood every word & Yadda is spot on. Your contribution is zero - not even one lousy quote to back up your prosperity message. You're a fake and a fraud and you've been exposed. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 19th, 2019 at 4:13pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 19th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
try your hand at ONE question. In your own words. No deflecting now, try it and see. You will doubtless find - as I already know - that you dont know the topic beyond that which you can Google. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 20th, 2019 at 3:18pm
and the self-proclaimed 'bible experts' go running from 4 very basic questions.
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 20th, 2019 at 4:42pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 3:18pm:
Still waiting after 13 pages, for evidence of the prosperity message. Waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting, waiting. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:35pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 4:42pm:
will waiting for you to demonstrate you know enough to even understand the answer. there are 4 questions waiting for you and you havent even attempted them. You are a type-licking loser like gay-nail your 'room-mate' |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by it_is_the_light on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:46pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 4:42pm:
looks like weak end has given up on answering your question brother , for he is lost and without clue upon that which ye hath asked .. he has no answers .. for he is a fake christian namaste ╰დ╮ॐ╭დ╯ |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:49pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:35pm:
I'm still waiting for you to pray for jesus to appear in front of me. How many years has it been ?? :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:54pm it_is_the_light wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 9:46pm:
and so it is master Light, to one such as him to wear a $22,000 Rolex is what the prosperity message means - just like Benny Hinn - for he seeketh riches upon this Earth and not in Heaven in direct contravention of the very words of Jesus. This is based on heretical teachings from satanic preachers yet Longy doesn't realise it yet - or refuses to realise it. May God have mercy upon his poor soul. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:14am
a group of self-proclaimed experts who cannot answer 4 very basic questions
very amusing:) |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:44am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:14am:
Longy, The gospel message has escaped you. You're in league with the devil. namaste |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:25am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 6:14am:
How many people does god murder in the bible ? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:08am Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:25am:
You answer my 4 questions correctly and I will answer yours. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:13am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:08am:
Don't bother Nail. Yadda already answered them and of course it wasn't good enough for Longy. It's just a devilish ploy by Longy to avoid answering 1 question. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:23am Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:13am:
yadda didnt answer them and if he did, YOU would use his stuff to try and answer these questions, but you havent. Fact it, neither of you have the first idea about the bible or of theology or church. You know nothing other than what you google, meaning you dont know anything at all. Once again, you've been owned. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:56am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:08am:
Well you can f;ckoff with your games longprong. God murders 2,038,344 people in the bible. Next question is how many does Satan kill in the Bible ? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 21st, 2019 at 11:41am Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:56am:
Hi Nail, fortunately we have a Doctor of Divinity on this forum- His name is Brian. We'll get him on to all the questions. Longy is just playing games. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 21st, 2019 at 12:26pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 11:41am:
while I doubt he is as you claim, since little you claim is true, but he would be able to answer the questions. but that isnt the point. the point is that YOU cant answer them despite being very basic, easy questions. But they wouldnt be so easy to goolg e since you need to know what you are talking about to google the right thing. I have proven my point that you and your gay bf and yadda dont really understand the bible at all. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 21st, 2019 at 12:54pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 12:26pm:
Longy, we'll see how good you are once a DDiv is on your case. I advise you to apologise now. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 21st, 2019 at 3:55pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 12:54pm:
wow you are dumb, booby. You dont seem to understand that the entire problem for you is that YOU cannot answer the questions. I can personally find hundreds, maybe thousands of people without a degree who can answer them because they are BASIC questions. I proved my point perfectly and your continual harping on about it simply adds to the proof. you are ignorant of the topic and therefore not worthy of an answer. Jesus did EXACTLY this to the Pharisees. I am simply following His excellent example. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 4:42am
Longy - you're full of it.
It seems Brian DD is a no show. I asked him but it's obvious that none of us here are worthy of his comments. We are all beneath him. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:35am Bobby. wrote on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 4:42am:
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:42am
you are like trump.
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 7:23pm
So Booby...
Where are your answers? I thought you were an expert? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 7:25pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 7:23pm:
Longy, I am an expert - compared to you, Nail and I are theologians. However you don't believe me so I tried to get a DD to post to impress you. He hasn't turned up yet but I hope he will. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 7:32am Bobby. wrote on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 7:25pm:
you dont need to be a theologian to answer 4 BASIC questions. You need to be merely, biblically literate and go to church. you have been owned, disgraced and outed, coward. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 11:02am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:42am:
and you play this stupid trick all of the time. You answer my questions before I answer yours :D LOL I f.cking know you longprong ! You can stick your old book up your arse along with your preachers d.ck. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 2:50pm Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 11:02am:
well it is pretty easy, isnt it? if you a re unwilling to demonstate and ability to even understand my answer, I am not interested in wasting my breath on a tosser like you. These are BASIC questions and you havent even tried to answer a single one of them so I am certainly not going to be able explain theology to someone who cant handle Dick and Dora type questions. dumb-nail. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 6:44pm
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by .JaSin. on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 6:52pm
Longweekend is obsessed like a crazed Moslem fundamentalist about all things TRUMPING IN THE USA.
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 11:02am:
It's an old debating strategy & Longy thinks we're dumb enough to fall for it. i.e. don't answer the 1 simple question - instead ask 4 other questions and when they are answered - as they were by our resident Bible expert Yadda - say that it wasn't good enough and then still not answer the 1st question. What a crock - and seems to be the debating standard here. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 9:25pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 7:19pm:
even you cant be so stupid as to pretend that Yabbas pile of random bible verses was an answer to anything. Ironically, as well as proving he knows nothing, he proved YOU know nothing because you think it was an answer. Try again. WHO WROTE THE BIBLE. See if you can answer it. It is a sunday school level question |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 10:03pm Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 12th, 2019 at 8:58pm:
sir LastNail has hit the nail on the head. after 14 pages of crap, Longweekend still can't tell us why the evangelical churches - of the type that he belongs to - the Benny Hinn type - teach the heresy of the prosperity message. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 5:02am Bobby. wrote on Mar 23rd, 2019 at 10:03pm:
blah blah blah... same crap different day. You cant answer a simple question and so I have no intention of pandering to your ignorance. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 7:48am
Longy,
if Brian DD turned up he could wipe the floor with you. I have a feeling that he knows he would waste his time owing to your belligerence. You need a Doctor of Divinity to shoot you down in flames. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 8:03am Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 7:48am:
To answer "Who wrote the bible?" A sunday SChool class could answer that one. But not you. embarrassing noong. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:16am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 8:03am:
Longy, that's a trick question - I'm not going to fall for it. Everywhere you look you find a different answer. Here is one answer: https://www.biblica.com/resources/bible-faqs/who-wrote-the-bible/ Who wrote the Bible? Many people contributed to the writing of the Bible. In fact, the Bible is a diverse collection of writings from about 40 main contributors—30 in the Old Testament and 10 in the New Testament. Some books are actually collections of writings from several authors, not just one. For example, while many people think of David when they think of the book of Psalms, there are individual psalms attributed to Moses, Asaph, a man named Ethan, and the sons of Korah. Old Testament authors The accounts preserved in the Old Testament—also known as the First Testament or Hebrew Scriptures—go back thousands of years. They were written down and communicated orally. Many regard Moses as the primary human author of the first five books of the Bible, known as the Torah. Regardless of the role others may have played in compiling the Torah, it’s thought that Moses ensured the narratives, genealogies, and law codes were collected and retold faithfully in these five books (which are, after all, known by many Jewish people as the “five books of Moses”). As already mentioned, David is considered the main human author of the Psalms, though others contributed too. David’s son, King Solomon, is credited with writing or inspiring much of Bible’s wisdom literature (Proverbs, Ecclesiastes, etc.). The First Testament also contains oracles from prophets like Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, and others. Many of these messages were delivered in person—shouted from street corners, spoken in front of the Jewish temple in Jerusalem, or pronounced in the royal courts of Israel and Judah. Only later were these oracles written down, often by the prophets themselves or by their scribes. As time passed, all these writings were collected together into the First Testament. The Jewish people received them as divinely inspired Scripture. New Testament authors The New Testament consists of stories, teachings, and letters that circulated among the first Christian churches. Letters from apostles like Paul and Peter are among the earliest writings in the New Testament. These letters were meant to be read aloud by communities of believers in specific locations. After the recipients heard the message intended for them, they often memorized it and shared it with neighboring Christian communities. Luke and Acts, a two-volume series on the life of Jesus and the early church, was penned by a physician named Luke, who was also a traveling companion to the apostle Paul. The gospel of Matthew is popularly attributed to a tax collector variously known as Levi or Matthew—though given its content, some think it was written by someone with more training in the Hebrew Scriptures. Mark’s gospel is thought to record the memoirs of Peter, as told through the pen of John Mark. The gospel of John was written by one of Jesus’ closest disciples, giving us an eyewitness account of the Messiah’s life. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:42am Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:16am:
And you got it WRONG. Because your theological understanding is powered only by Google rather than study and experience. The Bible was authored by the Holy Spirit, using men as His instrument. Simple, basic theology. This is why I wont answer your prosperity question because it would be like explaining calculus to a toddler. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:48am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:42am:
Can everyone see that? Longy asked a trick question so he could claim that any answer given was wrong. Such sneaky tactics from him but I was up to the challenge. The Bible wasn't written by the Holy Spirit. It was written by Jews ;D |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:52am Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:48am:
he always does this. Never debate the bible with a theologian or someone like longprong who parrots their lines. All theologians have a 101 excuse book to justify anything in their bible to mean anything else. More twists and turns than the great ocean road. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:57am longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:42am:
And nothing about how old the universe is and how the earth is round and orbits the sun. Nothing about the planetary lineup. How come such obvious omissions from the so called holy spirit ?? :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:20pm Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:57am:
Dear Nail, Longy has had 15 pages & he still hasn't answered the 1st question about the prosperity message. You don't expect him to answer another question do you? |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:24pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:20pm:
the old answer a question with a question logical fallacy gets wheeled out once again by longprong :D LOL And why does longprong go to church each sunday ? To see who has the better car and clothes as well as suring up his gold pass into heaven :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:30pm Sir lastnail wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:24pm:
Hi Nail, And don't forget the $22,000 Rolex like Benny Hinn wears. You don't have to wait till you go to heaven to enjoy some luxuries - heaven is right here on Earth if you're an evangelical Christian. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:46pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 11:48am:
and that is why you are not worthy of a response to a question, because you cant even get a simple one correct. BTW Moses wasnt a Jew, moron. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by DonDeeHippy on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:59pm
Did Adam have a belly button ? ;)
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 1:14pm DonDeeHippy wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:59pm:
very deep. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 2:18pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
Who cares Longy? And don't forget the $22,000 Rolex like Benny Hinn wears. You don't have to wait till you go to heaven to enjoy some luxuries - heaven is right here on Earth if you're an evangelical Christian. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Sir lastnail on Mar 24th, 2019 at 2:52pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
hey longprong where are all of the scientific revelations in the bible that could only be known by the creator at the time of the bibles writing ?? :D LOL |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by Bobby. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 2:53pm longweekend58 wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 12:46pm:
Who cares Longy? And don't forget the $22,000 Rolex like Benny Hinn wears. You don't have to wait till you go to heaven to enjoy some luxuries - heaven is right here on Earth if you're an evangelical Christian. |
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Title: Re: Those damned Evangelical Christians !!! Post by longweekend58 on Mar 24th, 2019 at 4:36pm Bobby. wrote on Mar 24th, 2019 at 2:53pm:
you sound jealous because of your failures. dont blame me for them. |
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