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Title: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by The Mechanic on Mar 20th, 2019 at 7:32am
It's like they are not even trying to pretend these days.
They So they want these kids to vote because they believe they'll vote DNC They want illegals to vote because they vote DNC ( Freeshit for everyone) (thanks taxpayer) They also play identity politics and divide race against race, men against women, kids against adults, and also hope to pick up the poofter vote. its sickening But I had to chuckle at this tweet by Katrina Pierson which destroyed Nutty Nancy Pelosi's call to lower the voting age ;D she's easy on the eyes too! ;) Quote:
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Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:10am I wish someone would explain the difference between small L liberals and big L liberals to The Moronic. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Gordon on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:30am
Perhaps non-compulsory for 16-18.
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Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by SerialBrain9 on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:02am Gordon wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 8:30am:
I would raise it to 21 these days with kids in a never ending bubble of schools until that age. And did you not see the Kids Climate Protest whereby the Teachers pulled the kids out of class to do their dirty work for them? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:08am SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:02am:
Why would you exclude adult students from voting? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:14am SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:02am:
If it was IQ I'd agree. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:17am SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:02am:
Why would you deny adult students the vote? SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:02am:
The kids I saw interviewed on TV said that their teachers were against the strike, and that they told the children not to leave the school grounds. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by SerialBrain9 on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:18am greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:08am:
Because most of them haven’t lived in the Real World, Worked or Paid Taxes or even thought for themselves. If you were in the Military by that age that would be a different story. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:26am SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:18am:
University is a very large part of the "real world". Most university students, and a large proportion of high school students, have jobs and pay taxes. McDonald's, Coles, etc. I'm not sure if you've ever been to university, but you certainly need to think for yourself during assessments. The military, however, teaches you to not think for yourself. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:26am SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:18am:
what is this thing you call the real world? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:27am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:26am:
A world without education, it would seem. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:43am
Yeah last time I saw my nephews classroom there were pictures of right wing pollies on the wLl. I asked what they were for and was told they learn politics in primary school. So since the kids want to change the age I wonder what kind of politics they learn?
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Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by mortdooley on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:09pm greggerypeccary wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:26am:
Super High School or as you call it University is far from the "real world", it is the last refuge to be a child. If you have no adult responsibility you tend to vote for free stuff from those with responsibility. Rights and responsibilities are two sides of the same coin, if you have no responsibilities you have no right to impose your will on those who do. Economics should teach people that if you spend the extra four or more years in class and create $100,000 or more in student debt you can not default on your lifetime income better make it worth it! Having a trade school certification learning to do something of real value in the "real world" has much more value to employers then your Arts Degree. If you can make responsible choices in life you are more likely to make responsible choices in the voting booth. Beatoff seems to be competing with Chiquita Khrushchev for the dumbest A-hole in politics and has the support of people like you. We definitely need to raise the voting age to at least 25 since current theory is that the brain hasn't fully developed before then! A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover that they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. What do the Democrats promise? Something for nothing, a free lunch, a chicken in every pot, vote democrat because work sucks. Let others do it and share with us! Fifty percent of Americans pay no federal income tax and about eighty percent of those are on some form of government assistance and they vote! I'm sure you think that is fair. Democrat platform proposals: -Abolish the Electoral College -Expand SCOTUS -Make the Senate representative of population -Let 16 year olds vote -Have a policy suggestion box -Massive wealth redistribution through tax and envt'l policy -Reparations -Permit killing viable babies |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by miketrees on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:14pm 18 is ok, but make it non compulsory and make people number every box. That should keep spastic lefty scum from voting |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Marla on Mar 21st, 2019 at 3:12am |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2019 at 7:25am So the alleged child rapist actually got something right. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:01am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 10:09pm:
Seems quite fair to be honest. I like those policies. Plus why is it the people who whine about Unis are the ones who clearly never attended? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Marla on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:02am
Excellent policies.
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Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:05am
I will put an add on to that though
-Massive wealth redistribution through tax and envt'l policy -Reparations -Permit killing viable babies IU agree with these three based on the non-RWNJ definition of those policies. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Richdude on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:55am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:05am:
Does anyone know what this idiot is talking about? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Marla on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:56am Richdude wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:55am:
That's no way to talk about yourself. Oh wait, you are an idiot. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:58am Richdude wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:55am:
Its quite simple actually. You say permit killing viable babies, I say allow women choice over their own bodies. You say massive wealth redistribution, I say allowing everyone a minimum wage to be able live comfortably. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Baronvonrort on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:58am
You want tide pod eating 16 year olds who don't know which bathroom to use to vote?
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Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:04am Baronvonrort wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:58am:
Because only 16 yr olds do dumb poo. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 21st, 2019 at 10:09am |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by mortdooley on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:17pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:58am:
Abortion isn't really about the womans body, it is about the little human she is carrying. As soon as it can safely be removed and allowed to develop to full term then I will support her Right. After all that's what got her pregnant in the first place, her Right. If we all recognized life beginning at conception and counted age as nine months before your first breathe we would all see abortion as what it is, murder! The minimum age is for teens learning to be employees, it is for people that need a chance to prove themselves to employers. It isn't a career choice, if someone can't rise above the minimum at their job they need to move on to somewhere with more opportunities. Raising the minimum wage just makes more automation economically viable. It is cheaper to put in a kiosk rather than have counter help at a fast food restaurant when the wages rise above a certain level. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by mortdooley on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:39pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:01am:
Clearly I did and have paper from both. There were a lot of long days working during the day and going to class in the evening. I am not whining about anything, if those extra years you spend in classrooms gives you a valuable viable skill it is worth the effort. Personally I favor Engineering because I like to tinker and build things, you may think sitting on your dead ass in air conditioning is worth a large paycheck. Easy student loans just gave Universities the ability to raise tuition by multiples of what it once was because students would defer payments. It is all simple math. How much can you make with your "nothing in liberal arts" degree as opposed to a skilled job earned from an Apprenticeship program. As you pay back this student loan how much of your monthly budget goes to repay it? Subtracting that how much more money are you making than the skilled craftsman? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by The Mechanic on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 7:44am
Whats Next?
Here's whats next - Dems give criminals the right to vote and then pander to them... Criminals always vote Democrat after all... Quote:
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Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by greggerypeccary on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 7:51am There's a criminal in the White House. Surely he'd want his people in the polling booths too. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Bojack Horseman on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 8:39am Mortdooley wrote on Mar 21st, 2019 at 9:17pm:
Yeah but we don't? Why because it's a cell. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Panther on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 10:00am
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United States Constitution Quote:
● In order to change the voting age from 18 to 16, there would need to be an amendment/revision to the 26th Amendment to the United States Constitution. ✪ The Constitutional Amendment Process (link) is traditionally set to a maximum of 7 years to complete, meaning from the time the proposed amendment is sent to the individual States for ratification by the People, each State has up to 7 years to complete the process, & report it's vote back to the US Congress..... ● If you are 17 years old, & will turn 18 by Election Day, you are permitted to preregister to vote in most all 50 States, & in some States you can even vote in the primaries for the Political Party you register in, prior to turning 18. If you register to vote as an Independent, you are not permitted to vote in any Party Primaries in almost all 50 States. ;) .. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Panther on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 10:03am
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There have, in over 225 years of US History, been in excess of 11,000 Proposed Amendments to the United States Constitution...........of those only 33 were successfully passed by super-majority votes of each House of the Congress (US House of Representatives & the US Senate). Of those, only Twenty Seven Amendments were ratified by 3/4's (38) of the 50 States.....by the People. Of over 11,000+ Proposed Amendments, & only 27 were ever successfully Ratified to become the Law of the Land in over 225 years. ;) Somebody want to do the math?.......What are the overall odds of a proposal becoming a Ratified Amendment to the US Constitution? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Panther on Mar 24th, 2019 at 2:13pm Panther wrote on Mar 22nd, 2019 at 10:03am:
I will fix the obvious error, that not one of you Leftists (LimpWeenie58.....etc.....etc) caught....... There have, in over 225 years of US History, been in excess of 11,000 Proposed Amendments to the United States Constitution...........of those only 33 were successfully passed by super-majority votes of each House of the Congress (US House of Representatives & the US Senate). Of those, only Twenty Seven Amendments were ratified by 3/4's of all the States.....by the People. Of over 11,000+ Proposed Amendments, & only 27 were ever successfully Ratified to become the Law of the Land in over 225 years. ;) Somebody want to do the math?.......What are the overall odds of a proposal becoming a Ratified Amendment to the US Constitution? |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Dnarever on Mar 24th, 2019 at 7:15pm SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:18am:
You could say the same about many politicians. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by Panther on Mar 24th, 2019 at 8:33pm SerialBrain9 wrote on Mar 20th, 2019 at 11:18am:
The 26th Amendment came about because of specific events taking place with younger men specifically. We were deep into a very unpopular war......the Vietnam War. The draft was still in effect, & all young men attaining their 18th birthday were susceptible to being drafted.....trained for war......& forced to die for reasons most really didn't understand. Prior to that magical/cursed birthday, most were just getting used to dealing with women, now they had to somehow deal with enemies they had no understanding of, going to a land they had no desire to visit, to be shot at & possibly/probably killed at every turn, & subject to all sorts of disease, & horrors imaginable. There were no true options, there were no exits they could use to escape this profound dilemma. The voting age was 21, sure they could drink legally at 18, but they were being asked to forfeit their lives & have nothing to say about it......they couldn't vote on those that were sending them unwillingly to intense danger & possibly death. So to placate the electorate, the government thought giving these I completely agree with 21 being the verge of maturity.....not there yet, but closer. The US Drinking age was increased to 21 because it was said, & proven, that 18 year olds were too immature & too irresponsible to take on alcohol, but all of a sudden 18 years old became mature enough to make decisions that could affect the entire future of the Country??? That's totally daft......but politics will always be politics.... IMHO.....21 should be both the drinking age (which in the US it is thank God.....should be here in Australia too), & 21 years old should also be the voting age.........it's a matter of maturity........50 years ago, 18 year olds were forced to mature earlier, but today, even the 21 year olds seem very reluctant to take on the process of life & reality. |
Title: Re: Liberals want Voting age to drop to 16 Post by .JaSin. on Mar 24th, 2019 at 8:37pm
-20 = CHILD, KID, ETC
The Stupidity of Global and Australian Politics that it doesn't recognise the rights of a 19 year old to still enjoy it's 'YOUTH' of Childhood ...no wonder they are all slitting their wrists, etc because of the pressure to VOTE, HAVE SEX AND MORE. |
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