Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?






Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"? Not an easy thing to do.  :( "It's a hell of a thing killing a man. Take away all he's got ... and all he's ever gonna have." [media width=640]https://youtu.be/Fh0jwX0MJiM[/media]

Its easy, apparently, if your are a follower of ISLAM.....



WWW search....
muslim, we love death



WWW search....
why do muslims love death ?



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Quote:

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

- ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD


"......in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb,
....."the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
[old LINKS, but the articles are kosher]



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I have called ISLAM a death cult,      which makes the murdering of non-moslems lawful.


But many people,    who are defenders of ISLAM,     seem to disagree with me.



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WHAT THE MESSENGER OF ALLAH, MOHAMMED, SAID.....


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Umar related that the Messenger of Allah, upon whom be peace, said, "I have been ordered to kill the people until they testify that there is no god except Allah, and that Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah, and they establish prayer and pay the zakah. If they do that, their blood and wealth are protected from me save by the rights of Islam. Their reckoning will be with Allah." (Related by al-Bukhari and Muslim.) "
fiqhussunnah/fus1_06


ISLAMIC LAW TEXT....

"Ibn 'Abbas reported that the Prophet said: "The bare essence of Islam and the basics of the religion are three [acts], upon which Islam has been established. Whoever leaves one of them becomes an unbeliever and his blood may legally be spilled. [The acts are:] Testifying that there is no God except Allah, the obligatory prayers, and the fast of Ramadan."...."
fiqhussunnah/#3.110

n.b.
"Whoever......becomes an unbeliever.....his blood may legally be spilled."



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THE HADITH....

"...the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." - DEAD.
hadithsunnah/bukhari/ #004.052.260

Thanks Ringo, would you extend your criticism to armies, police etc?

And here is a data point for unfairly slandering an entire culture

Wisdom word's.....

Proverbs 8:14
Counsel is mine, and sound wisdom: I am understanding; I have strength.
15  By me kings reign, and princes decree justice.
16  By me princes rule, and nobles, even all the judges of the earth.
17  I love them that love me; and those that seek me early shall find me.
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32  Now therefore hearken unto me, O ye children: for blessed are they that keep my ways.
33  Hear instruction, and be wise, and refuse it not.
34  Blessed is the man that heareth me, watching daily at my gates, waiting at the posts of my doors.
35  For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
36  But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: all they that hate me love death.


Proverbs 9:10
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

And here is a data point for unfairly slandering an entire culture

Sure it is.


Quote:

I have called ISLAM a death cult,      which makes the murdering of non-moslems lawful. Now tell us all,      how have i 'misrepresented' ISLAM ?

It's just WRONG, to suggest, that ISLAM, is a death cult.

Isn't it bojack ???


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A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing.


Quote:

Inside the sect that loves terror August 07, 2005 ......In public interviews         Bakri condemned the killing of all innocent civilians. Later when he addressed his own followers he explained that he had in fact been referring only to Muslims as only they were innocent: “Yes I condemn killing any innocent people, but not any kuffar.”

these are old links, but the article is kosher.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1724541,00.html
another source, "Undercover in the academy of hatred"...
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1458729/posts



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AND......



Spokesmen for ISLAM will tell anyone who will listen;

THAT IT IS WRONG, AND THAT IT IS TOTALLY AGAINST ISLAMIC LAW,      TO KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE.



Here is a moslem in the UK explaining, who the innocent people are.

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Please watch this YT...
A UK moslem community leader, speaking in the wake of the London 7/7 bombing;


Quote:

YT KILLING OF NON-MUSLIMS IS LEGITIMATE "...when we say innocent people, we mean moslems." "....[not accepting ISLAM] is a crime against God." "...If you are a non-moslem, then you are guilty of not believing in God." "...as a moslem....i must have hatred towards everything which is non-ISLAM." "...[moslems] allegiance is always with the moslems, so i will never condemn a moslem for what he does." "...Britain has always been Dar al Harb [the Land of War]" "...no, i could never condemn a moslem brother, i would never condemn a moslem brother. I will always stand with my moslem brother....whether he is an oppresser or the oppressed."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maHSOB2RFm4

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

And here is a data point for unfairly slandering an entire culture

bojack,

It is as though your eyes simply pass over these statements by moslems.

Not comprehending what those words mean ?

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Quote:

"....the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood."

- ISLAMIC scholar, Sayyid Qutb, .......PROMOTING, JUSTIFYING, ISLAM's VIOLENT JIHAD


"......in the words of Islamism's most influential thinker, Sayyid Qutb,
....."the death of those who are killed for the cause of God gives more impetus to the cause, which continues to thrive on their blood." "
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8802-2243871,00.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sayyid_Qutb
[old LINKS, but the articles are kosher]



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bojack,

If you cannot recognise the evil,     in the teachings and doctrines of ISLAM,      i suggest you are probably a little 'unhinged'.

You need to be careful.




Yadda said.....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1553633666/14#14

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Time and time again, we can see LEFTISTS [and many 'common' criminals], just ignore and overturn well founded precepts, and they break laws, not considering what serious consequences, their actions will trigger. And if they are apprehended, and brought to account, they will try to trivialise, what they did, sometimes saying "But it was only a laugh!". But very rarely, do we see any REPENTANCE. "I'm truly sorry. Yes, it was wrong, and a very stupid thing to do. I'm sorry." Rather, its usually denial, or the 'trivialising' of their wrongdoing. Psychopaths, many of them, imo.

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A simple definition of SANITY/INSANITY. Typically, an unrestrained sane person will act in ways which are harmless to others, and in ways which are creative, and productive [for himself, others, and society]. And typically, and conversely, an unrestrained INSANE person will act in ways which are harmful and destructive to himself, and, or, others around him.

You could try calling them a literal mindless collective of treacherous Jews, then casually dismissing their plight with something like tough titties, off with their heads.

Hmm ... how do people justify "legal killing"?




freediver wrote on Apr 10^th, 2019 at 6:19pm:

You could try calling them a literal mindless collective of treacherous Jews, then casually dismissing their plight with something like tough titties, off with their heads.

Surely no one on this forum            would be so 'dismissive' of the murdering and slaughter, of people, who do not believe what they believe !

/sarc off

Q/. How do people justify killing.

A/. Read and obey the qur'an.

Reading and obeying the qur'an has produced worldwide islamic terrorism, today right now 2019.

moses wrote on Apr 11^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

Q/. How do people justify killing. A/. Read and obey the qur'an. Reading and obeying the qur'an has produced worldwide islamic terrorism, today right now 2019.

Apologist.

Perhaps Yadda and Moses should ask Panther this question?  He believes he justifies it by having a gun...   ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 12^th, 2019 at 7:19pm:

Perhaps Yadda and Moses should ask Panther this question? He believes he justifies it by having a gun...   ::)

That is an accusation.

link ???

How do people justify legally interning the entire Australia muslim population into detention - every man, woman and child?

- ask Yadda  ;)

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

How do people justify legally interning the entire Australia muslim population into detention - every man, woman and child? - ask Yadda  ;)

Yadda answers.....




in a thread titled.....
Deport the terrorists – and their families too


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1542007568/2#2

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I see lawful administrative detention of such people, as an option. ------ > QUARANTINE WORKS!! http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/34#34 and.... The argument for administrative detention, for all 'Aussie' followers of ISLAM http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1538349389/0#0

Examine the arguments that i have made,    before you condemn me.

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What's the name of that disgustingly fat and ugly jewess who said on US tv that the death of half a million arab children was 'worth it' ?


Yep, I remember.  Madeleine Albright


half a million little kids slaughtered

worth it, she says

Madeleine Albright: “500,000 Dead Iraqi Children Was Worth It”

Sometimes Genocide Is OK…
It just depends who is in office at the moment.

Here is a much forgotten exchange between Lesley Stahl and Madeleine Albright on “60 Minutes” back on May 12, 1996 that is not getting much play lately:

Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it?

Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it.

t’s worth noting that on 60 Minutes, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl–a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions.


LINK

PZ547 wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

Madeleine Albright: “500,000 Dead Iraqi Children Was Worth It” Sometimes Genocide Is OK… It just depends who is in office at the moment. Here is a much forgotten exchange between Lesley Stahl and Madeleine Albright on “60 Minutes” back on May 12, 1996 that is not getting much play lately: Lesley Stahl on U.S. sanctions against Iraq: We have heard that a half million children have died. I mean, that’s more children than died in Hiroshima. And, you know, is the price worth it? Secretary of State Madeleine Albright: I think this is a very hard choice, but the price–we think the price is worth it. t’s worth noting that on 60 Minutes, Albright made no attempt to deny the figure given by Stahl–a rough rendering of the preliminary estimate in a 1995 U.N. Food and Agriculture Organization (FAO) report that 567,000 Iraqi children under the age of five had died as a result of the sanctions. LINK

She did cop a lot of flak for that, and to be fair, she did come out years later and said she regreted saying it. Clearly there are more diplomatic ways of making the case for genocide - without so obviously showing that you are making the case for genocide. Western leaders are usually quite masterful at this diplomatic skill.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 6:26pm:

She did cop a lot of flak for that, and to be fair, she did come out years later and said she regreted saying it. Clearly there are more diplomatic ways of making the case for genocide - without so obviously showing that you are making the case for genocide. Western leaders are usually quite masterful at this diplomatic skill.

Whereas after moslems commit a genocide,      their regimes simply deny that it ever happened.

And threaten to kill 'disappear' people [within their power] who do continue to mention it.


WWW search....
Armenian genocide.