Why do Malaysians need protection visas?

Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million?

In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did.

Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none.

Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting?



https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 20 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

Well, they're tinted...

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

Probably the Muslims on the push side. One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds. When he says they don't really mean it, he claims to speak for the vast majority of the world's Muslims, even though when they get the chance to speak for themselves, they say something very different.

They have "re-education" camps for apostates.

Not really - many genuine refuge seekers are existing in Malaysia, and they receive zero help from the Malaysian government. 

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:34am:

Not really - many genuine refuge seekers are existing in Malaysia, and they receive zero help from the Malaysian government.

As usual Grappler is missing in action and couldn't hit the side of an infinitely long wall with an AK47.

Refugees are classified by their nationality not the country they currently have refuge in.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 12:34am: Not really - many genuine refuge seekers are existing in Malaysia, and they receive zero help from the Malaysian government.  As usual Grappler is missing in action and couldn't hit the side of an infinitely long wall with an AK47. Refugees are classified by their nationality not the country they currently have refuge in.

What the hell are you trying to talk about now, clown?  I said 'refugees existing in Malaysia' - I didn't mention their nationality, but it stands to simple reason that refugees existing in Malaysia are not Malaysian or they wouldn't be refugees, would they, particularly given the facts I've offered.

Obviously it's you who can't even see the side of any wall... just go back into hiding where you belong and let the adults discuss real issues... you are way out of your depth, as usual.

Dumb as the anchor on the USS Constitution...

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:38am:

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 12:34am: Not really - many genuine refuge seekers are existing in Malaysia, and they receive zero help from the Malaysian government.  As usual Grappler is missing in action and couldn't hit the side of an infinitely long wall with an AK47. Refugees are classified by their nationality not the country they currently have refuge in.

The AK may not be the most accurate and in slow mo you can actually see it distort/bend when fired but it is very reliable. You shouldn't disparage it.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 9:30pm:

Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf

As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts.

Trying to obfuscate?

Setanta wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 9:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts. Trying to obfuscate?

Apologies. Closet poms.

Setanta wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:44pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 12:38am: Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 12:34am: Not really - many genuine refuge seekers are existing in Malaysia, and they receive zero help from the Malaysian government.  As usual Grappler is missing in action and couldn't hit the side of an infinitely long wall with an AK47. Refugees are classified by their nationality not the country they currently have refuge in. The AK may not be the most accurate and in slow mo you can actually see it distort/bend when fired but it is very reliable. You shouldn't disparage it.

Pulls back, up and to the left... reminds me of someone here..... ummm... hold the barrel down when firing full auto.... not as bad as an M-14, but still.... short round....

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts.

Really? Show me the government legislation which discriminates against Chinese and Indians as Malaysian legislation does. Its getting boring publically owning you all the time, start reading about stuff at least you muppet.

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

Coooo-rrect!!  They also have an infusion from Myanmar and points west who, as I said, are given no support by the Malaysian Guv.  If they can't make a living on the streets, that's it for them.. no social security etc, only charity.  Some of those are Muslims.... I thought one of the tenets of Islam was charity and such....

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:22pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts.

Sure, sure.. that's why they can buy homes, go to university, enter professions, own businesses, travel freely, be protected by the same laws, become citizens, have free association, not suffer violence or persecution from their own government or roving bandit gangs, exercise freedom of religion and freedom of speech  .... but whatever rocks your boat...

Oh.. look out... there's a White Oppressor under your bed!!!  ::)  ::)  ::)

dick-head ............

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 9:58pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 9:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts. Really? Show me the government legislation which discriminates against Chinese and Indians as Malaysian legislation does. Its getting boring publically owning you all the time, start reading about stuff at least you muppet.

It's not that hard to find Rhino.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Malaysia#New_Economic_Policy

Government policies of positive discrimination often favour the Malay majority and the Bumiputera status, particularly in areas such as housing, finance and education. Economic policies designed to favour Bumiputera, including affirmative action in public education, were implemented in the 1970s in order to defuse inter-ethnic tensions following the May 13 Incident in 1969.[5] However, these policies have not been fully effective in eradicating poverty among rural Bumiputeras and have further caused a backlash especially from Chinese and Indian minorities. The policies are enshrined in the Malaysian constitution and questioning them is technically illegal.

Hows that for Islamic politics. They make it illegal to question racist laws. No wonder Gandalf comes to their defence at every opportunity.

freediver wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds.

FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times?

First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned".

Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people?

Regarding the question posed in the OP - there is indeed a massive fake visa racket coming out of Malaysia involving asylum seekers from places like Myanmar and Vietnam. There was an investigative report on this by the ABC about a year ago. So no, it is not a flood of terrified Malaysian apostates escaping Malaysian re-education camps.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:34pm:

Regarding the question posed in the OP - there is indeed a massive fake visa racket coming out of Malaysia involving asylum seekers from places like Myanmar and Vietnam. There was an investigative report on this by the ABC about a year ago. So no, it is not a flood of terrified Malaysian apostates escaping Malaysian re-education camps.

Quite so......

Muslim re-education camp:-

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7122/1469/1600/iran_hanging.jpg


Allah will sort 'em out.. no worries...

freediver wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 10:05pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 9:58pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 9:22pm: rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. Australians discriminate against Chinese Indians and Malaysians. Please interrogate denizen Gordon for further facts. Really? Show me the government legislation which discriminates against Chinese and Indians as Malaysian legislation does. Its getting boring publically owning you all the time, start reading about stuff at least you muppet. It's not that hard to find Rhino. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Malaysia#New_Economic_Policy Government policies of positive discrimination often favour the Malay majority and the Bumiputera status, particularly in areas such as housing, finance and education. Economic policies designed to favour Bumiputera, including affirmative action in public education, were implemented in the 1970s in order to defuse inter-ethnic tensions following the May 13 Incident in 1969.[5] However, these policies have not been fully effective in eradicating poverty among rural Bumiputeras and have further caused a backlash especially from Chinese and Indian minorities. The policies are enshrined in the Malaysian constitution and questioning them is technically illegal. Hows that for Islamic politics. They make it illegal to question racist laws. No wonder Gandalf comes to their defence at every opportunity.

He's asking about Australia FD, not Malaysia.

Grappler Deep State Feller wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:36pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:34pm: Regarding the question posed in the OP - there is indeed a massive fake visa racket coming out of Malaysia involving asylum seekers from places like Myanmar and Vietnam. There was an investigative report on this by the ABC about a year ago. So no, it is not a flood of terrified Malaysian apostates escaping Malaysian re-education camps. Quite so...... Muslim re-education camp:- http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/7122/1469/1600/iran_hanging.jpg Allah will sort 'em out.. no worries...

Oh well, Iran, Malaysia... close enough eh.

Wowee. If Muslims and others are being terrorized by the application of sharia law in multiple countries Australia has a duty to open its heart and let all those prospective victims into Australia.

Every Australian should house several Muslim families until the emergency and urgency pass.

Let us start slowly with 500,000 Rohingya.

Chez Gordon has considerable empty space.

rhino wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 8:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge.

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-obtain-australia-visa/10237506

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:41pm:

Wowee. If Muslims and others are being terrorized by the application of sharia law in multiple countries Australia has a duty to open its heart and let all those prospective victims into Australia. Every Australian should house several Muslim families until the emergency and urgency pass. Let us start slowly with 500,000 Rohingya. Chez Gordon has considerable empty space.

You could start by housing some. Lead by example.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption. Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-obtain-australia-visa/10237506

Of the 9,000 applicants only 180 have been approved. This is a nothing story. That's nothing compared to the multiple of 1,000's of Muslims who sailed in.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:46pm: rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption. Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-obtain-australia-visa/10237506 Of the 9,000 applicants only 180 have been approved. This is a nothing story. That's nothing compared to the multiple of 1,000's of Muslims who sailed in.

not sure I understand hammer - thousands of asylum seekers entering by boat is nothing compared to thousands of asylum seekers entering by plane - how exactly?

Or did you mean that unlike the 'plane people', most of the boat people were assessed as genuine refugees?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:29pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 10:10pm: One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds. FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times? First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned". Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people?

Are you suggesting they would not have killed people if the federal court had not intervened?

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:41pm: Wowee. If Muslims and others are being terrorized by the application of sharia law in multiple countries Australia has a duty to open its heart and let all those prospective victims into Australia. Every Australian should house several Muslim families until the emergency and urgency pass. Let us start slowly with 500,000 Rohingya. Chez Gordon has considerable empty space. You could start by housing some. Lead by example.

Should I evict British refugees to create space?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption. Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-obtain-australia-visa/10237506

The story on the "people smuggling racket" was and is a complete fraud, I have shown this before. Heres the pertinent bit that you missed in the story.
Quote:

Men from Vietnam wait in a Malaysian hotel on the false hope they'll make their way to Australia.

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption.

there are no such statistics which show the race of Malaysians entering Australia . It is Malaysia which discriminates against ethnic Chinese and Indians, not Australia. Anything else you dont know? Why on earth dont you check your facts before posting and avoid making yourself look astoundingly ignorant.

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 3:56pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:46pm: rhino wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 8:53pm: Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 9:30pm: Why do Malaysians need protection visas? Why are there around 9,000 protection visa applicants from Malaysia with a population of around 20 million compared to only round 500 from Indonesia with a population around 200 million? In fact in 2017-2018, Malaysians submitted more protection visa applications than Chinese did. Only 2% of Malaysan protection visa applications were approved. However, Malaysians were still granted more protection visas than Chinese. Indonesians were granted none. Is someone in Malaysia running a scam? Who is profiting? https://www.homeaffairs.gov.au/research-and-stats/files/ohp-june-18.pdf As Malaysia actively discriminates against its citizens of Chinese or Indian background it is likely these people are the main applicants. I hope these actual facts help you in your search for knowledge. I would have thought doing something as elementary and obvious as, oh I don't know, maybe checking out the actual statistics on Chinese/Indian-Malaysian refugees or asylum seekers in Australia - would be a prudent thing to do before leaping to such an assumption. Or you could have just read the ABC report into the Malaysian people-smuggling racket thats getting non-Malaysian asylum seekers into the country: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-09-16/criminals-faking-malaysian-identities-to-obtain-australia-visa/10237506 Of the 9,000 applicants only 180 have been approved. This is a nothing story. That's nothing compared to the multiple of 1,000's of Muslims who sailed in.

What about the tens of thousands who flew in?

.
It's gonna be funny when China takes over Australia

currently, muslim chinese aren't doing too well in China

why do they think they'll fare any better under a Chinese occupied Australia?

Better get the planes ready to fly them all home again (once they graduate to reading the news)

freediver wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 6:57pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:29pm: freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 10:10pm: One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds. FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times? First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned". Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people? Are you suggesting they would not have killed people if the federal court had not intervened?

The federal court did not intervene. The lawmakers were fully aware from the start that they were creating laws that could never be implemented, and everyone just left it at that. No intervention required.

Also, are you seriously still linking this to the very recent spike in asylum claims from Malaysia - even though this law has been around for nearly 30 years, and nothing has changed?

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 2:30pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 6:57pm: polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 3:29pm: freediver wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 10:10pm: One state recently passed the death penalty for apostasy into law, with the support of the majority of Malaysian Muslims. Gandalf reassures us they don't really mean it, even though it was only overturned on constitutional grounds. FD how do you continue to get this so wrong, after explaining it to you so many times? First, the law was not passed "recently", it was passed in 1993. Secondly it was not overturned, rather it was from the very beginning a law on paper only - as constitutionally, state law is unable to impose the death penalty. This has been the case all along - nothing was "overturned". Also what on earth has this got to do with a high number of Malaysia protection visas? Are you seriously suggesting they are all coming from the tiny states of Kelantan and Terrenganu - with a combined population of just over 3 million people? Are you suggesting they would not have killed people if the federal court had not intervened? The federal court did not intervene. The lawmakers were fully aware from the start that they were creating laws that could never be implemented, and everyone just left it at that. No intervention required. Also, are you seriously still linking this to the very recent spike in asylum claims from Malaysia - even though this law has been around for nearly 30 years, and nothing has changed?

So they still have the death penalty for aposatasy on the books? Do you think there is a risk that Muslim politicians might still try to enforce it?

Yes I am linking it. Malaysia is a shithole of oppression, thanks to Islam. Both the death penalty for apostasy and the asylum claims are symptoms of this. If you were unfortunate enough to be a citizen of Malaysia, would you not also try to escape?