Excellent interview with Oze legendary journalist John Pilger.

Assange is a hero - he presented the truths to all for which he will most likely be tortured in a US supermax prison and possibly die in jail.

Whats wrong with Australians? You should be demanding his release!

https://youtu.be/siHgvx3t9V8

I agree Assange is a hero.

In recent times nobody other than Julian Assange and Edward Snowden has been promoting the exposure of unlawful government actions at great personal risk.

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:24am:

I agree Assange is a hero. In recent times nobody other than Julian Assange and Edward Snowden has been promoting the exposure of unlawful government actions at great personal risk.

Yes, however there have been others, just not as high profile who just disappear - quietly.

He is a hero!

The info that the US public cannot hear because of censorship and what they need to hear.

https://youtu.be/IfeEkkVB0D4

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:24am:

I agree Assange is a hero. In recent times nobody other than Julian Assange and Edward Snowden has been promoting the exposure of unlawful government actions at great personal risk.

Snowden is a Traitor - do your homework.

He was/is a CIA asset trying to take down the NSA.

Assange and Wikileaks lost a lot of credibilty when they became very political, even partisan and all about the personality of Assange.

The fact that there was a "Kill switch" should he have been arrested was an example of it.

They did great work being a safe place for whistleblowers to share information safely, but once they took up a narrative they lost that impartiality and for Assange, it all became about him, he was the story.

Now they have editors on the information that's posted, like a newspaper, pushing a narrative. 

It's far less "heroic" that it may have been.

They've lost their impartiality, just another cog in the machine, a cog that's being used when it suits and will be destroyed when it no longer helps those in power. 

Anything that happens to Assange from now is on him for the bedfellows he's kept.

Even Trump has turned his back on Wikileaks.

But the QTards see Wikileaks as part of "their arms" and an attack on them, so I don't expect the resident nutters here to employ any sort of critical or independent thought on this issue, they'll just be the rats following the pied piper.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Assange and Wikileaks lost a lot of credibilty when they became very political, even partisan and all about the personality of Assange. The fact that there was a "Kill switch" should he have been arrested was an example of it. They did great work being a safe place for whistleblowers to share information safely, but once they took up a narrative they lost that impartiality and for Assange, it all became about him, he was the story. Now they have editors on the information that's posted, like a newspaper, pushing a narrative.  It's far less "heroic" that it may have been. They've lost their impartiality, just another cog in the machine, a cog that's being used when it suits and will be destroyed when it no longer helps those in power.  Anything that happens to Assange from now is on him for the bedfellows he's kept. Even Trump has turned his back on Wikileaks. But the QTards see Wikileaks as part of "their arms" and an attack on them, so I don't expect the resident nutters here to employ any sort of critical or independent thought on this issue, they'll just be the rats following the pied piper.

Assange has lost no credibility at all - and just because he exposed the Clinton Corruption that makes him partisan?

What a load of hogwash.  ::)

SerialBrain9 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:18pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 7:45am: Assange and Wikileaks lost a lot of credibilty when they became very political, even partisan and all about the personality of Assange. The fact that there was a "Kill switch" should he have been arrested was an example of it. They did great work being a safe place for whistleblowers to share information safely, but once they took up a narrative they lost that impartiality and for Assange, it all became about him, he was the story. Now they have editors on the information that's posted, like a newspaper, pushing a narrative.  It's far less "heroic" that it may have been. They've lost their impartiality, just another cog in the machine, a cog that's being used when it suits and will be destroyed when it no longer helps those in power.  Anything that happens to Assange from now is on him for the bedfellows he's kept. Even Trump has turned his back on Wikileaks. But the QTards see Wikileaks as part of "their arms" and an attack on them, so I don't expect the resident nutters here to employ any sort of critical or independent thought on this issue, they'll just be the rats following the pied piper. Assange has lost no credibility at all - and just because he exposed the Clinton Corruption that makes him partisan? What a load of hogwash.  ::)

I didnt think he had much credibility to begin with, so you're right.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:45am:

Assange and Wikileaks lost a lot of credibilty when they became very political, even partisan and all about the personality of Assange. The fact that there was a "Kill switch" should he have been arrested was an example of it. They did great work being a safe place for whistleblowers to share information safely, but once they took up a narrative they lost that impartiality and for Assange, it all became about him, he was the story. Now they have editors on the information that's posted, like a newspaper, pushing a narrative.  It's far less "heroic" that it may have been. They've lost their impartiality, just another cog in the machine, a cog that's being used when it suits and will be destroyed when it no longer helps those in power.  Anything that happens to Assange from now is on him for the bedfellows he's kept. Even Trump has turned his back on Wikileaks. But the QTards see Wikileaks as part of "their arms" and an attack on them, so I don't expect the resident nutters here to employ any sort of critical or independent thought on this issue, they'll just be the rats following the pied piper.

That Sad is idiotic. No, actually its more accurately moronic.

Assange was a publisher for material marked classified for "national security" reasons. What is "national security"? Is censoring video that displays killing innocent people for merely being suspect OK?

The US people have a right to know what is going on and if that conflicts with the official narrative - all the more reason.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:34am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 12:24am: I agree Assange is a hero. In recent times nobody other than Julian Assange and Edward Snowden has been promoting the exposure of unlawful government actions at great personal risk. Snowden is a Traitor - do your homework. He was/is a CIA asset trying to take down the NSA.

You are wrong-headed and fact-intolerant CerealBrain. Edward Snowden exposed the illegal surveillance without a warrant and without cause of the American public and the whole world in general including USA's allies.

SerialBrain9 wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 7:34am:

Laugh till you cry wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 12:24am: I agree Assange is a hero. In recent times nobody other than Julian Assange and Edward Snowden has been promoting the exposure of unlawful government actions at great personal risk. Snowden is a Traitor - do your homework. He was/is a CIA asset trying to take down the NSA.

As you can see, Laugh, CerialBrain has his friends and enemies dished out to him by his celebrity masters.

It's cunning how they now like Assange for publishing the DNC's hacked emails. They were never too fond of Assange back back when he was a mere whistleblower of the military-industrial complex. In fact, back then, they never gave much thought to that at all. Most of them, including the Mechanic, cheered at the footage of innocent Iraqis being shot in the street. They loved the idea of the surveillance state, most of all because it pretended to target Muslims, pedophiles and leftards.

They've changed their tune now, but it took the release of a political party's hacked emails in the middle of a presidential erection to bring them round.

Richdude wrote on Apr 15^th, 2019 at 12:33pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 15th, 2019 at 7:45am: Assange and Wikileaks lost a lot of credibilty when they became very political, even partisan and all about the personality of Assange. The fact that there was a "Kill switch" should he have been arrested was an example of it. They did great work being a safe place for whistleblowers to share information safely, but once they took up a narrative they lost that impartiality and for Assange, it all became about him, he was the story. Now they have editors on the information that's posted, like a newspaper, pushing a narrative.  It's far less "heroic" that it may have been. They've lost their impartiality, just another cog in the machine, a cog that's being used when it suits and will be destroyed when it no longer helps those in power.  Anything that happens to Assange from now is on him for the bedfellows he's kept. Even Trump has turned his back on Wikileaks. But the QTards see Wikileaks as part of "their arms" and an attack on them, so I don't expect the resident nutters here to employ any sort of critical or independent thought on this issue, they'll just be the rats following the pied piper. That Sad is idiotic. No, actually its more accurately moronic. Assange was a publisher for material marked classified for "national security" reasons. What is "national security"? Is censoring video that displays killing innocent people for merely being suspect OK? The US people have a right to know what is going on and if that conflicts with the official narrative - all the more reason.

I wouldn't expect someone as blind as you to understand, or care about the truth.  But Wikileaks have access to far more information than they release.  They choose what and when to release their content.  Gone are the days of them being a safe haven for whistleblowers.

The picked a side and stuck with it.

I can understand why, Assange's crime caught up with him and the secretary of state at the time didn't want to stand up for him and offer him the protection he felt entitled to and things started to devolve and get very personal from there.

And that's the problem with Wikileaks now, it's become very personal and very political.

It's not a conspiracy that you need to connect or invent dots, you just need to go over the history and stop blindly believing the Q nonsense.

But those oh so threatened by the truth will find any way to run from it and will do, say and attack anyone if they think it helps them as members of the Q army.

There was a splinter of Anonymous before all the various anons started appearing pretending to be from the FBI, CIA or Q.  I worked with them in their work against the Church of Scientology.  I entered the Church at the lower levels and got some basic information back to them that made it to Wikileaks.

That poo started to get scary so I bailed, but I was more reckless in my youth.  I didn't like conspiracies and frauds then and I still don't know.

I'm aware of what Wikileaks used to be, and what they are now.  Same with Anonymous, what that means now and all the various anons in all the chans out there.

Don't pretend Wikileaks is and was something that it's not.  Trump loves WikiLeaks, until Assange got pinched for being a little entitled bitch in the embassy, then he's not a Wikileaks guy.  He had and still doesn't have any idea what it really is.

The WikiLeaks of old would have included a lot of information about the inner workings of the Trump campaign and administration and the full Mueller report would have been released on there back in the day.

But instead, they've taken a stance and they're sticking with it.

And then along comes Q.  Part of the Q larp is that the Q followers are important and part of the Q Army, winning battles and waging wars with their memes and orchestrated twitter spamming and general trolling online as if this achieves something or is in any way a meaningful endeavour.  Wikileaks has been deputised into that army because they post a lot of either blatantly pro-Trump information or what they post can be used and manipulated to that end.

So, of course, the QTards are out defending Assange and Wikileaks.

If it was the WikiLeaks of old, I would agree that they're doing great work, like project chanology, collateral murder, but they're too political now.

They have narrative rather than their standards of old.

You can bet if the Mueller report does end up on wikileaks and it shows what everyone expects it to contain, Trump and the QTards in this thread will backflip so fast their spines would break.

Absolute Rubbish Mr Kanga.

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Richdude wrote on Apr 14^th, 2019 at 11:32pm:

Excellent interview with Oze legendary journalist John Pilger. Assange is a hero - he presented the truths to all for which he will most likely be tortured in a US supermax prison and possibly die in jail. Whats wrong with Australians? You should be demanding his release!

I agree.

He's not going to be treated fairly, that's for sure.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 8:46am:

Richdude wrote on Apr 14th, 2019 at 11:32pm: Excellent interview with Oze legendary journalist John Pilger. Assange is a hero - he presented the truths to all for which he will most likely be tortured in a US supermax prison and possibly die in jail. Whats wrong with Australians? You should be demanding his release! I agree. He's not going to be treated fairly, that's for sure.

I agree, he shouldn't be extradited to the US, not for Wikileaks.

But people need to remember the truth about the situation and not look at him as a messiah because he's become hungry with power.

Julian Assange was brought up, by his mother, to hate the USA. Computer hacking is just the vehicle of his hate. Mind you, he is not alone among anti-American Australians. None of them are prepared to give up the American elements of their lifestyle.

issuevoter wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 12:06pm:

Julian Assange was brought up, by his mother, to hate the USA. Computer hacking is just the vehicle of his hate. Mind you, he is not alone among anti-American Australians. None of them are prepared to give up the American elements of their lifestyle.

Such as?

issuevoter wrote on Apr 16^th, 2019 at 12:06pm:

Julian Assange was brought up, by his mother, to hate the USA. Computer hacking is just the vehicle of his hate. Mind you, he is not alone among anti-American Australians. None of them are prepared to give up the American elements of their lifestyle.

  I don't think Assange hates the US - hes not that petty. We hate some things that the US does. Like killing innocents on an Iraqi street and supporting a coup in the Ukraine.

Assange gave the public information that an honest press would  have made available. Most Americans wouldn't even have heard of Yemen - let alone know that the US gov is supporting a war there.

Honest Government Ad | Julian Assange

https://youtu.be/1efOs0BsE0g

The Position of the Australian Prime Minister is to
SERVE THE USA, regardless from which Party they come from.
The Position of the Australian Governor-General is to
SERVE THE UK, regardless from which Party they come from.
The UK serves the USA in Europe and does its dirty work.

Julian Assange will be snuffed out from existence - gone in a mystery of smoke that even Wiki-Leaks can't uncover or reveal.

Assange will become a Matyr to the Australian People.

Jasin wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 12:34pm:

The Position of the Australian Prime Minister is to SERVE THE USA, regardless from which Party they come from. The Position of the Australian Governor-General is to SERVE THE UK, regardless from which Party they come from. The UK serves the USA in Europe and does its dirty work. Julian Assange will be snuffed out from existence - gone in a mystery of smoke that even Wiki-Leaks can't uncover or reveal. Assange will become a Matyr to the Australian People.

That would be a terrible crime and one that would weigh heavily on the conscious of the Australian people.

Assange will be made an example of - for the USA to show that even Australians are not above 'their' Law. Even the UK follows the USA more than it does its fellow Europeans (such is Brexit).

Assange will be treated like a Spy and an enemy of the State. He won't be executed, he will be imprisoned 'forever' and forgotten.

Trump likes Assange. Assange showed the world how corrupt Hillary Clinton was.

Maybe Trump will soften the blow for Assange?

You play with the big boys in the big boys' playground you always have to remember it is the big boys who set the rules.  Assange didn't.   ::)

The thing that will help Assange is that he's a celebrity. He's like a slave who has won the crowd in the Colosseum. Caesar would like to stick his thumb up and have him nuked but it would cause unrest. He'll either get a good deal or do 50 years. It's going to make interesting viewing.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 3:30pm:

You play with the big boys in the big boys' playground you always have to remember it is the big boys who set the rules.  Assange didn't.   ::)

Get a life, hippie.
https://youtu.be/RYdDp4mHDRY

https://i.imgur.com/h5uD1b2.jpg

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 3:46pm:

https://i.imgur.com/h5uD1b2.jpg

A criminal? The media LOVE Assange. He's the Scarlett Pimpernel of the free press. He's the darling of every Guardian, New York Times, Washington Post and ABC journalist, without exception.

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 20^th, 2019 at 11:39pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 18th, 2019 at 3:46pm: https://i.imgur.com/h5uD1b2.jpg A criminal? The media LOVE Assange. He's the Scarlett Pimpernel of the free press. He's the darling of every Guardian, New York Times, Washington Post and ABC journalist, without exception.

The press may in private admire Assange but certainly he does not enjoy positive coverage in the media.

The elite like to work without the risk of being exposed by whistle blowers.

Richdude wrote on Apr 18^th, 2019 at 1:05am:

issuevoter wrote on Apr 16th, 2019 at 12:06pm: Julian Assange was brought up, by his mother, to hate the USA. Computer hacking is just the vehicle of his hate. Mind you, he is not alone among anti-American Australians. None of them are prepared to give up the American elements of their lifestyle.   I don't think Assange hates the US - hes not that petty. We hate some things that the US does. Like killing innocents on an Iraqi street and supporting a coup in the Ukraine. Assange gave the public information that an honest press would  have made available. Most Americans wouldn't even have heard of Yemen - let alone know that the US gov is supporting a war there.

Exactly.


What I find alarming is that people will attack assange and use the "raised by his mom, hates america"  as a way of running the man down....or trying to run him down anyway.

So he was raised by a loving mother and, well, he loves his mother.....And managed to keep a good relationship with her. Now this makes someone not credible? WTF?  School yard bullies would try shyte like this. These same people, i feel, would have no problem attacking a shyte mother for not caring for her kid/s.

So he hates America? 
Is that all of America?  Or is it just some things that the American gov has undertaken in its very confidential and secretive history. A gov that has murdered its own president,  its own people,  a gov that has lied to the world, created wars for its own benefit, made up stories so it can invade and kill any country it sees fit,  a gov so corrupt that it will delete anyone who questions their actions,  a gov that has had so many questionable actions that most are to afraid to ask questions for fear of "disappearing",  a gov that will hide its actions from the world until the truth is presented....Then it will chase the person who presented the truth and use its media to degrade, slander, ruin any form of credibility the person had. Yeah....the land of the free my arse.


I hate America for the same reasons and I would stand beside assange proudly,  not as an Australian but as a truth seeker.

Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 7:45am:

I hate America for the same reasons and I would stand beside assange proudly,  not as an Australian but as a truth seeker.

It would be nice if he stayed that way.  I greatly admire much of what he did in the early days. 

Maybe now without him, Wikileaks can get back to its roots.

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 8:52am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 21st, 2019 at 7:45am: I hate America for the same reasons and I would stand beside assange proudly,  not as an Australian but as a truth seeker. It would be nice if he stayed that way.  I greatly admire much of what he did in the early days.  Maybe now without him, Wikileaks can get back to its roots.

I agree Captain.

Its not a national, racial, sex or religious issue as the left wants it to be. Its about the truth.

This idiot and I mean idiot, Sad who is way out of his depth talking primary school level discussion would want Assange to stop releasing truthful info.

"What the world needs now is love, sweet love
It's the only thing that there's just too little of
What the world needs now is love, sweet love,
No not just for some but for everyone.…"


  I don't know who sang this but they're wrong!

What the World needs now is - truth!

Richdude wrote on Apr 21^st, 2019 at 1:10pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 21st, 2019 at 8:52am: Captain Caveman wrote on Apr 21st, 2019 at 7:45am: I hate America for the same reasons and I would stand beside assange proudly,  not as an Australian but as a truth seeker. It would be nice if he stayed that way.  I greatly admire much of what he did in the early days.  Maybe now without him, Wikileaks can get back to its roots. I agree Captain. Its not a national, racial, sex or religious issue as the left wants it to be. Its about the truth. This idiot and I mean idiot, Sad who is way out of his depth talking primary school level discussion would want Assange to stop releasing truthful info. "What the world needs now is love, sweet love It's the only thing that there's just too little of What the world needs now is love, sweet love, No not just for some but for everyone.…"   I don't know who sang this but they're wrong! What the World needs now is - truth!

Like you care about the truth...

Still waiting on a reply.


SadKangaroo wrote on Apr 3^rd, 2019 at 7:43am:

Richdude wrote on Apr 3rd, 2019 at 7:21am: With some people, after being deceived for several years cognitive dissonance becomes a fixed in their minds. No amount of proof will ever change their thinking. Trump is guilty because I don't like him therefore.......... its cyclical reinforcement. Such is the case with Sad. Here is yesterdays press conference. Tell us Sad where are the lies? Should be easy. Trump is claiming there's thousands of illegals at the border is that a lie? https://youtu.be/r9xMUGpoxNg I didn't say he lies in everything he says.  One example of him not lying does not erase all his previous lies. And you should know all about cognitive dissonance.  Well, I'd assume you don't actually know what it is, only that it's been used to attack you before, so you're trying to use it to attack those on the other side now. I don't have time to watch the entire thing now (not just the short 18minute version you posted) but I know straight away one of his claims isn't true. He says that 1% maybe 2% of undocumented immigrants show up to court, and they're the stupid ones, when the number, at least historically between 2012-2016 was over 60%. I know he's trying to make a point to support his stance (and humiliating back down about closing the border) but it's not the truth. He doesn't need to exaggerate it.  ~39% not showing up is bad enough, but to lie and claim it's 98%, that only weakens his message. This is not about hating everything Trump does.  If he identifies a genuine issue, it should be taken seriously. But Trump for his entire life has lied, exaggerated and embellished claims, he just can't stop... Pretending that's not the case won't help, and using such flawed information as grounding for policy only leads to bad policy that is a waste of money, won't solve the problem it's aimed at and is likely to have negative impacts elsewhere with nothing to show for it. Trump also claimed his father was born in Germany, when he wasn't, he was born in New York... Another lie. Quote: “My father is German — was German,” Trump said. “Born in a very wonderful place in Germany, so I have a great feeling for Germany.” Wrong. It is true that Trump's grandfather, Fred Trump’s father, Friedrich Trump, was born in Germany, in the village of Kallstadt, but not his father as he claimed. So which is it, did he lie or not?  What excuse do you have now? I don't have time to fact check the rest of what he said this morning but there is probably more. Come on... at least check for yourself before you try a mic drop moment... Facts, they matter.  Stop trying to spin lies into truth, it'll never work and you'll keep getting humiliated. The truth is, Trump lies.  He always has, he always will. There are decades of proof of his dishonest record.  Literally.