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Message started by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 6:40pm

Title: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 6:40pm
https://twitter.com/fraser_anning


Senator Fraser Anning
‏ @fraser_anning
18h18 hours ago

I am WARNING that if we continue to import Muslims into our country we will have more terrorist attacks, as has been proven time and time again.

Take my advice if you want to ensure the safety of your children and a future for our nation’s people.


Ignore it, and face death.
312 replies 1,194 retweets 3,723 likes
Senator Fraser Anning
‏ @fraser_anning
19h19 hours ago

What I said and has been proven completely true is that Islamic populations when they increase in number will result in an increase in violence.

I also said during Christchurch, that whilst Muslims had been the victims, Muslims are usually the perpetrators in terrorist attacks.

68 replies 291 retweets 1,098 likes
Senator Fraser Anning
‏ @fraser_anning
19h19 hours ago

Almost 300 dead due to Islamic terrorists in Sri Lanka.

Where is egg boy now?

222 replies 819 retweets 3,198 likes
Senator Fraser Anning
‏ @fraser_anning
19h19 hours ago

Christianophobia and Islamic supremacy needs to be condemned worldwide.

The utter hypocrisy from our traitorous politicians since this attack has unfolded, shows they are more interested in bowing down to Islam and destroying Christian Europeans then ensuring public safety.

82 replies 601 retweets 1,842 likes
Senator Fraser Anning
‏ @fraser_anning
19h19 hours ago

Where is the world coming together for Christianity after almost 300 are dead and churches bombed in Sri Lanka?

This is one of the largest Islamic terrorist attacks ever, and yet the mainstream media is far less outraged compared to during the Christchurch shootings.

78 replies 476 retweets 1,345 likes

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:12pm
Fraser Anning will get a hell of a lot of votes in this election.


Latest news SBS -

talk in Sri Lanka that the attack in Sri Lanka was payback for the Christchurch attack.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by John Smith on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Fraser Anning will get a hell of a lot of votes in this election.


you think he'll get more than 19 goober?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:16pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Fraser Anning will get a hell of a lot of votes in this election.


you think he'll get more than 19 Bobby?


190,000  this time.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:22pm
I want this bloke back in the Senate. He needs to have parliamentary privilege to speak uncomfortable truths.


The only way to have these voices heard in the public arena is to have them in parliament. everywhere else they will be silenced.  The difference Anning will make if he gets back in is that he will not be silenced. He has the odds hugely against him but I will be voting for him in principle: he has all the PC snarlers against him, outshouting his fundamentally unassailable points.

We need Hanson, Latham, Anning. We need the gadflies against PC.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by John Smith on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Fraser Anning will get a hell of a lot of votes in this election.


you think he'll get more than 19 Bobby?


190,000  this time.



why don't you bet on it? I'm sure one of the betting agencies will offer you decent odds.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:29pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Fraser Anning will get a hell of a lot of votes in this election.


you think he'll get more than 19 Bobby?


190,000  this time.



why don't you bet on it? I'm sure one of the betting agencies will offer you decent odds.



Thanks for betting tip -
I could make a lot of money.  :)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:31pm

Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:22pm:
I want this bloke back in the Senate. He needs to have parliamentary privilege to speak uncomfortable truths.


The only way to have these voices heard in the public arena is to have them in parliament. everywhere else they will be silenced.  The difference Anning will make if he gets back in is that he will not be silenced. He has the odds hugely against him but I will be voting for him in principle: he has all the PC snarlers against him, outshouting his fundamentally unassailable points.

We need Hanson, Latham, Anning. We need the gadflies against PC.



We need more people like him -
those who are not afraid to say what most people say behind closed doors.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by John Smith on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 8:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:29pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:16pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:12pm:
Fraser Anning will get a hell of a lot of votes in this election.


you think he'll get more than 19 Bobby?


190,000  this time.



why don't you bet on it? I'm sure one of the betting agencies will offer you decent odds.



Thanks for betting tip -
I could make a lot of money.  :)



go for it.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 9:13pm

Frank wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 7:22pm:

I want this bloke back in the Senate.

He needs to have parliamentary privilege to speak uncomfortable truths.



The only way to have these voices heard in the public arena is to have them in parliament.

Everywhere else they will be silenced.

The difference Anning will make if he gets back in is that he will not be silenced.

He has the odds hugely against him but I will be voting for him in principle: he has all the PC snarlers against him, outshouting his fundamentally unassailable points.

We need Hanson, Latham, Anning.

We need the gadflies against PC.



Yes.


Yes.


Yes.


Yes.


And again, yes.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 9:29pm




IMAGE....



'All that i demand, is that you accept Allah's perfect religion.
And if you refuse, i demand that you recognise that it is my human right,
to practice my religious freedom - TO FIGHT, AND TO KILL YOU,
FOR REJECTING ALLAH'S PERFECT RELIGION !

You infidels have to accept this!

And,       ....why can't you infidels, just be more tolerant!'




------ >






15-year-old gunman, Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar
.....follower of ISLAM.     .....DEAD, murderous thug.
.....piece of HUMAN SEWAGE




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IMAGE...


Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar outside Parramatta police headquarters

QUESTION;
What 'set off' Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar on that fateful day, to decide to murder Australian Curtis Cheng in Parramatta, NSW ???

ANSWER;
ONLY ALLAH KNOWS!



n.b.
ISLAMIC culture encouraged Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar, to murder Australian Curtis Cheng.



Farhad Khalil Mohammad Jabar was inspired by ISLAM's imperative, which urged him TO KILL THE ENEMIES OF ALLAH.




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Quote:

".......We want to have children and offer them as soldiers defending Islam.
Teach them this:

There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid (holy warrior).

Put in their soft, tender hearts the zeal of jihad and a love of martyrdom."


http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21074839-2,00.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/014863.php




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"CHILDREN....AS SOLDIERS DEFENDING ISLAM."


Yadda said....
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1504079978/14#14

Quote:

'Teacher quits after     primary school     students threaten to behead her'

QUESTION;
Where do moslem children living in Australia get these ideas from ?




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WAKE UP AUSTRALIA!!!





Followers of ISLAM are     ALL     lying toads.



DECEIT;

IMAGE...


Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami



Quote:

How Circumstance Dictates Islamic Behavior

January 18, 2012

Preach Peace When Weak, Wage War When Strong

"...all notions of peace with non-Muslims are based on circumstance.

When Muslims are weak, they should be peaceful; when strong, they should go on the offensive."

Sheikh Yassir al-Burhami - an ISLAMIC scholar and Egyptian Salafi leader
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/from-the-arab-world/how-circumstance-dictates-islamic-behavior/



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DECEIT;


Quote:

A Study in Muslim Doctrine

"...while sincere friendship with non-Muslims is forbidden,

insincere friendship - whenever beneficial to Muslims - is not."


http://www.meforum.org/2512/nidal-hasan-fort-hood-muslim-doctrine



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Google;
taqiyya - the muslim doctrine of deceit




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 9:34pm
Hi Yadda,
I knew you'd put a long unreadable post on my new thread.  LOL

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 9:42pm


@ Reply #11,

'Its the thought that counts'    bobby.     ;)


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 9:54pm

Yadda wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 9:42pm:


@ Reply #11,

'Its the thought that counts'    bobby.     ;)



Dear Yadda,
as a Christian ye should turn the other cheek.
If a muslim hits you on the left cheek offer him your right cheek.
If he steals your money give him the shirt off your back as well.

and so it is

namaste

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Dnarever on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:14pm

Quote:
Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.


Every chance he gets.

Fraser is more part of the problem than anything to do with a solution.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Setanta on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:31pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:14pm:

Quote:
Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.


Every chance he gets.

Fraser is more part of the problem than anything to do with a solution.


So the problem is speaking out about what Islam does, not Islam killing thousands of people every year in acts of terrorism?

Funny definition of "more part of the problem".

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Setanta on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:38pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Their scams aren't the real problem. The problem is their bombs, bullets, knives, trucks, cars, planes and anything else they can use to kill and maim. Oh, that's one in particular, the rest might just be after you hard earned cash.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:40pm

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:


why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ?

You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 



Yeah.

I blame the Lutherans, for all of the trouble in the world today.

Those damned Lutherans!!!!!!




thank you thelastnail,

Once again, we pass over/side step mentioning,       the evil whose name must not be spoken.




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:29am

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.


Freedom, innit.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01am

Setanta wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:31pm:

Dnarever wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:14pm:

Quote:
Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.


Every chance he gets.

Fraser is more part of the problem than anything to do with a solution.


So the problem is speaking out about what Islam does, not Islam killing thousands of people every year in acts of terrorism?

Funny definition of "more part of the problem".



you dont see Anning as being a white terrorist do you?..

he is speaking in exactly the same way as those calling the shots in ISIS....

their version is KILL get rid of ALL CHRISTIANS

ANNING is saying   GET RID OF ALL MUSLIMS>..

he cant say KILL   although I am sure he was more than smug after Sri Lanka and saying I TOLD YOU SO...

it justifies the fear and loathing he preaches..

stoopid us   
we dont see  the poison he is preaching as the same thing the head of ISIS is preaching.....

:( :( :(

mate the only thing thats different is the language used...the meaning is the same..

they hate [fear[ me so I can do the same to them...

so much for..


Christian Standard Bible
Vengeance belongs to me; I will repay. In time their foot will slip, for their day of disaster is near, and their doom is coming quickly.

Anning has a much bigger following.. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:06am
AS well one good thing about the upcoming election is Anning wont be around politically after that!

ANOTHER MORON!

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:13am

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:06am:
AS well one good thing about the upcoming election is Anning wont be around politically after that!

ANOTHER MORON!



I wouldnt be too sure he has quite a following..

look how he speaks of egg boy?....very arrogant.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:26am
Desperation with the election coming. And polticial insignificance beckoning.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:18am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.



IS PURE HATE A RELIGION NOW?

i can run around doing atrocious things to other human beings....all in the name of some belief I have....


doesnt mean a thing really  other than HATE...

where in the bible does god use the words HATE EACH OTHER.... where does it say that in the Koran?....  ::)

yes you can interpret it to mean anything you want it too..

HATE   is easy   like anger  its quick its instant  it can for a moment make you even feel a bit better ..

but does it solve or change anything????

if a god arrived tomorrow and made us all the same on the surface,....

all black for instance...no browns or whites or tinted.. all the one colour.....but inside we remain the same..


how do you think we would go???/..

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:57am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.



Greggy,
stop using Ozpolitic to peddle lies.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:01am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.



Greggy,
stop using Ozpolitic to peddle lies.


Are you suggesting that Anning isn't a neo-Nazi?

Seriously?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Secret Wars on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:19am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.


With over 300 recently killed by Islamic terrorism and the deaths in attacks in Europe hows the body count working out for you there Champ apologist wise?  Not so good, especially as your much abused and misused quote bomb...actually cracker, deleted the near 3000 from Islamist terrorism deaths as a result of 9/11. 

In short, islamists internationally running amok and killing, and you have done all you can to apologise and diminish that by deflecting to your abused “attacks” not deaths, in one country.

Why are so so try hard to defend Islamist murderers?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.
These attacks in Sri lanka with a body count in the hundreds  committed by Muslims in the name of Islam directly against innocent Christians just happen to prove your point.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:06pm
here is the only thing we need to know in regard to Islamic immigration, "What I said and has been proven completely true is that Islamic populations when they increase in number will result in an increase in violence".Fraser Anning is not a neo Nazi for stating the truth. Neither are Australians bigots or racists for not wishing this violence to be imported here.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm

rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:06pm:
here is the only thing we need to know in regard to Islamic immigration, "What I said and has been proven completely true is that Islamic populations when they increase in number will result in an increase in violence".Fraser Anning is not a neo Nazi for stating the truth. Neither are Australians bigots or racists for not wishing this violence to be imported here.


Well said.
I agree with Frazer Anning.
He's the new Bobby Menzies.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:01am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:57am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.



Greggy,
stop using Ozpolitic to peddle lies.


Are you suggesting that Anning isn't a neo-Nazi?

Seriously?


Has he ever said tough titties, off with their heads?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:06pm:
here is the only thing we need to know in regard to Islamic immigration, "What I said and has been proven completely true is that Islamic populations when they increase in number will result in an increase in violence".Fraser Anning is not a neo Nazi for stating the truth. Neither are Australians bigots or racists for not wishing this violence to be imported here.


Well said.
I agree with Frazer Anning.
He's the new Bobby Menzies.


Pig Iron Bob eh?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:29pm

Secret Wars wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:19am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.


With over 300 recently killed by Islamic terrorism and the deaths in attacks in Europe hows the body count working out for you there Champ apologist wise?  Not so good, especially as your much abused and misused quote bomb...actually cracker, deleted the near 3000 from Islamist terrorism deaths as a result of 9/11. 

In short, islamists internationally running amok and killing, and you have done all you can to apologise and diminish that by deflecting to your abused “attacks” not deaths, in one country.


Why are so so try hard to defend Islamist murderers?




SW,

If it walks like a duck.

And if it quacks like a duck.

ITS A DUCK!


greggery = = Quack, quack.




Having an Anglo moniker doesn't make greggery an Anglo.

But hopefully, you already guessed that.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:41pm

rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.
These attacks in Sri lanka with a body count in the hundreds  committed by Muslims in the name of Islam directly against innocent Christians just happen to prove your point.


Focus, dear.

I said the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists; nothing to do with religion.

I didn't say all terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists.

There are all sorts of terrorist groups (and individuals) out there.

Religious groups, left-wing, right-wing, atheist, etc.

All of them are responsible for terrible acts of terrorism (and no, we're not talking about graffiti attacks).

However, the simple fact is the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists.

Not all, but certainly most.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:18pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Well said.
I agree with Frazer Anning.
He's the new Bobby Menzies.




You really are buggered in the head, if you truly believe that.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:36pm
.
How many people realise how many are on the payroll?

Jack down the road gets limited exposure when he says something

but a politician, no matter his team or relevance within it, gets a lot more coverage, particularly if he's spouting the 'controversial'

When you play with a jig-saw puzzle, you're in far better position to see the overall picture than is one of the pieces

there are individuals for whom this world is a jig-saw.  It's their entertainment.  They're building the picture, piece by piece

down here on the table top, we lack their perspective and see only a fraction of the overall picture

There are lots of Anning types, positioned around the globe.  Some of them pose as politicians. Some of them not only take their pay from the public they claim to serve -- they're also paid by those who're putting the jig saw puzzle together.  And they're chosen for their lack of conscience and morals, their utter lack of loyalty  to anything other than themselves AND for the fact they are narcissists who would run stark naked through Woolies just for the attention

Have a look at the muslims in Sydney.  What do you see?  Vehicles notable for loud mufflers and overfilled seats bearing women in headscarves, kids and overweight males?  Yep, usually.  Overfilled houses with multigenerational occupants -- not uncommon.  Young males with ridiculous hair styles and big mouths -- too common.  Females with half a cosmetics counter on their faces and a preoccupation with hair removal, men, sex and female competitors. 

Do they look war-ready?  When you hear them swear every second word throughout their inane conversation, usually held at 80 decibel level, does it sound as if they give a damn about their religion?

So what's Anning's game -- what do you think?  Controversy.  Attention he'd never get otherwise despite he seems to believe he's movies star material.  Being paid for nothing.  Ambition of the middle aged man who's failed to make his mark and thinks politics is the ticket.  Stupidity and ignorance

what do you think?  Do you believe all the slow waddling, over fed, never had it so good in their lives, short attention span muslim population really wants to kill you and yours?

If you do, let the deadchits posing as political leaders know by refusing to give them a vote instead of behaving as if Ford & Holden aka LNP & Labor are your only options


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:38am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:45am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.


White supremacy isn't a religion.


Are you saying that Fraser Anning is
a similar person to Bobby Menzies?


I'm saying that the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists - nothing to do with religion.

Fraser Anning is a neo-Nazi.
These attacks in Sri lanka with a body count in the hundreds  committed by Muslims in the name of Islam directly against innocent Christians just happen to prove your point.


Focus, dear.

I said the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists; nothing to do with religion.

I didn't say all terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists.

There are all sorts of terrorist groups (and individuals) out there.

Religious groups, left-wing, right-wing, atheist, etc.

All of them are responsible for terrible acts of terrorism (and no, we're not talking about graffiti attacks).

However, the simple fact is the majority of terrorist attacks are carried out by white supremacists and right-wing extremists.

Not all, but certainly most.
Muslims just achieve the most body counts, they are particularly good at that. And while your "terrorist" statistics include activitists throwing water bombs at abortion clinics your claims are just  noise. No one except brain dead extreme left wackos like John Smith and Mothballs really believe anything you post.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by 0ktema on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:44pm

Secret Wars wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:19am:
With over 300 recently killed by Islamic terrorism and the deaths in attacks in Europe hows the body count working out for you there Champ apologist wise?  Not so good, especially as your much abused and misused quote bomb...actually cracker, deleted the near 3000 from Islamist terrorism deaths as a result of 9/11. 

In short, islamists internationally running amok and killing, and you have done all you can to apologise and diminish that by deflecting to your abused “attacks” not deaths, in one country.

Why are so so try hard to defend Islamist murderers?


He does it because Islam (in general) doesn't cope all that well with criticism.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bojack Horseman on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:48pm

0ktema wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:19am:
With over 300 recently killed by Islamic terrorism and the deaths in attacks in Europe hows the body count working out for you there Champ apologist wise?  Not so good, especially as your much abused and misused quote bomb...actually cracker, deleted the near 3000 from Islamist terrorism deaths as a result of 9/11. 

In short, islamists internationally running amok and killing, and you have done all you can to apologise and diminish that by deflecting to your abused “attacks” not deaths, in one country.

Why are so so try hard to defend Islamist murderers?


He does it because Islam (in general) doesn't cope all that well with criticism.




Neither do humans in general.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:59pm

cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.



IS PURE HATE A RELIGION NOW?

i can run around doing atrocious things to other human beings....all in the name of some belief I have....


doesnt mean a thing really  other than HATE...

where in the bible does god use the words HATE EACH OTHER.... where does it say that in the Koran?....  ::)

yes you can interpret it to mean anything you want it too..

HATE   is easy   like anger  its quick its instant  it can for a moment make you even feel a bit better ..

but does it solve or change anything????

if a god arrived tomorrow and made us all the same on the surface,....

all black for instance...no browns or whites or tinted.. all the one colour.....but inside we remain the same..


how do you think we would go???/..


No, dear, these attacks have nothing to do with religion. They're the work of killers.

Imagine committing to blowing yourself up as long as you can take out as many innocent people as possible.

Every religion - including Islamic leaders - condemns such actions. The waste of your own life alone is a sin, but killing men, women and children in the process?

I can't fathom this, and I've never met anyone who can.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:23pm
.
Madeleine Albright, when asked if the deaths of half a million kids was worth it, said yes, she believed it was worth it

so it's a matter of degree

big killers, little individual killers

I suspect the big killers run innumerable individual killers.  All part of the same agenda

most of us survive and die of something else

planet drenched in blood through the eons

we get more emotional about the small-scale killings.  Those at the top and the media, have cottoned-on

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:39pm

Quote:
The waste of your own life alone is a sin, but killing men, women and children in the process?


Suicide jihadists in islam:

Quran (2:207) - "And there is the type of man who gives his life to earn the pleasure of Allah..." This would not be in the Quran if it were not permissible.

Quran (4:74) - "Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward."

Quran (9:111) - "Allah hath purchased of the believers their persons and their goods; for theirs (in return) is the garden (of Paradise): they fight in His cause, and slay and are slain:


Slaughtering men women and children in islam

Quran (17:33) "And do not kill anyone which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause."

The jihadists are the highest grade of muslims, allah hates the non believer, allah loves jihadists who die, it's O.K. to kill the women and kids if you do it in a just cause (jihadist suicide attacks against the kufir and apostates etc. would definitely be called a just cause in the eyes of allah, by these sicko muslims).

One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam.

Until we do islamic terrorism remains on the table.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by 0ktema on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:48pm:

0ktema wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:19am:
With over 300 recently killed by Islamic terrorism and the deaths in attacks in Europe hows the body count working out for you there Champ apologist wise?  Not so good, especially as your much abused and misused quote bomb...actually cracker, deleted the near 3000 from Islamist terrorism deaths as a result of 9/11. 

In short, islamists internationally running amok and killing, and you have done all you can to apologise and diminish that by deflecting to your abused “attacks” not deaths, in one country.

Why are so so try hard to defend Islamist murderers?


He does it because Islam (in general) doesn't cope all that well with criticism.




Neither do humans in general.


Yes, but it seems Muslims in particular require extra special handling lest more of them become triggered and then go all literal Quranic violent text on us.

Greg basically doesn't want to put any more focus than there already is on Islam/Muslims. In the hope that his actions will help mend a centuries old violent thread that runs deeply through the Islamic tapestry. He hopes to give ordinary Muslims a breathing space in which to embrace peaceful integration.

I can understand how he wants to give them breathing space, but in his way of doing this to excess he shows little to no regard for others genuine concerns. He merely slaps down anything contrary to his ideal, just as any ugly religious zealot would. His is not the middle path.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:01pm

Quote:
Talmud first


In the last 30 days there were 86 Islamic attacks in 21 countries, in which 722 people were killed and 1257 injured.

There has been 34899 deadly muslim terrorist attacks since September 11 2001


It's got absolutely nothing to do with what's written in the Talmud, the Bible, the Puranas or any other sacred texts.

muslims kill people because the qur'an tells them to.

Stop apologizing for islamic terrorism.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by 0ktema on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:13pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

cods wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 10:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:11am:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:08am:

Sir lastnail wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:33pm:
why do we keep tolerating religious institutions in the 21 st century ? You'd think by now even the dumbest amongst us has woken up to their scams 


Because the alternative is intolerance and the destruction of personal freedom. Here are some of the benefits:

https://suchanek.name/texts/atheism/ChapterPositive.html

Guiding Society: Discusses positive effects that religion can have on society as a whole.
Giving Strength: Lists healthy effects of religion on the individual.
Making Society Better: Discusses the idea that religion makes society better.



All these terrorist attacks are hardly good adverts for religion.



IS PURE HATE A RELIGION NOW?

i can run around doing atrocious things to other human beings....all in the name of some belief I have....


doesnt mean a thing really  other than HATE...

where in the bible does god use the words HATE EACH OTHER.... where does it say that in the Koran?....  ::)

yes you can interpret it to mean anything you want it too..

HATE   is easy   like anger  its quick its instant  it can for a moment make you even feel a bit better ..

but does it solve or change anything????

if a god arrived tomorrow and made us all the same on the surface,....

all black for instance...no browns or whites or tinted.. all the one colour.....but inside we remain the same..


how do you think we would go???/..


No, dear, these attacks have nothing to do with religion. They're the work of killers.

Imagine committing to blowing yourself up as long as you can take out as many innocent people as possible.

Every religion - including Islamic leaders - condemns such actions. The waste of your own life alone is a sin, but killing men, women and children in the process?

I can't fathom this, and I've never met anyone who can.


Unfortunately not entirely true !

It has a lot to do with the interpretation of religious text (Religion).

And not all Islamic leaders condemn such actions (All it takes to be an Imam is to have followers, as there is no formal hierarchy in Islam. They merely follow one or another as inspired to do so)


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:15pm
.
Don't expect any help from any of the sell-out governments.  You know, those guys who've taken teh money and flooded the west with muslims.  Those guys who engineered the wars to create muslim migrants/asylum seekers/refugees in the first place

why do you think the phony wars have focused on destroying the middle east?  Why is Australia in the Middle east?  Why were Norway, Denmark, UK etc. involved in the middle east?  Blair lied. Bush lied. Cheyney lied

who profited?  Who lost?  What have been the results?

Results -- millions of muslims spread swiftly throughout the West

Anyone of any age remember hearing much about Islam or Muslims before the USrael started shenanigans in the Mid East? 

Before tha, it was contained

Muslims were in their homeland, not prancing through Amsterdam and London with knives

then shenanigans in Afghanistan which dribbled into Pakistan etc

It's an agenda

Bash up the muslims in their own place

pretend then to care about the fallout and send millions of muslims into the west

then came the 'terrorist attacks'

The world-shapers at work

and it's not one-sided

you think all those islamic preachers just happened?

half of them have been shown to be izrayli

and, like sell-out politicians dumping tons of muslims on Westerners, there are also bought and paid for 'islamic-muslim activists' employed to preach hatred

the Saudis (widely said to be Donmeh Jews) have admitted to investing well over a hundred billion into ' the promotion of the spread of Islam in the West '.  They're the guys who pay for all the islamic mosques throughout the west. And they fund the islamic schools throughout the west

If Ned Kelly and his gang rampaged through your town like mad dogs, killing everything in sight -- followed by Ned Kelly Inc. who told the survivors they could live in Ned Kelly Village where they'd be provided a free house, free money, etc. -- how would you feel?  Your family members are rotting in the sand in your home town.  Sure, you've been airlifted to Ned Kelly Village.  Would that make you feel kindly towards Ned and his gang?  Would you forget what they did to you and your people?  Would the anger still fester inside you?  I think so

So why is anyone acting amazed because muslims, not all, aren't kindly disposed towards the West?

Muslims in Oz know the average Aussie had nothing to do with USrail's war on the Mid East.  Muslims in Oz know that Aussies generally don't really want any more foreigners in Australia

so whose fault is it?  The muslims?  Aussies?  Other westerners?

Muslims have their mullahs raving on about Wahabbist idealogies on one hand.  And they want to just live, raise their kids, pay off the house etc. on the other.  They're being pressure baked.  Aussies are being pushed by orchestrated 'terrorist attacks' and by unemployment, housing crises, bank crises, overflowing hospitals and schools, PC warnings, etc.

and it's not just happening here. It's the same everywhere

and at the back of all of it, most people know who're driving the enmities, same as always.  Those -- those determined the world should be at its own throat -- are the ones who need taking out.  And in that, muslims, Christians and most other religious sects would be as one

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:19pm

0ktema wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:48pm:

0ktema wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:19am:
With over 300 recently killed by Islamic terrorism and the deaths in attacks in Europe hows the body count working out for you there Champ apologist wise?  Not so good, especially as your much abused and misused quote bomb...actually cracker, deleted the near 3000 from Islamist terrorism deaths as a result of 9/11. 

In short, islamists internationally running amok and killing, and you have done all you can to apologise and diminish that by deflecting to your abused “attacks” not deaths, in one country.

Why are so so try hard to defend Islamist murderers?


He does it because Islam (in general) doesn't cope all that well with criticism.


Neither do humans in general.


Yes, but it seems Muslims in particular require extra special handling lest more of them become triggered and then go all literal Quranic violent text on us.

Greg basically doesn't want to put any more focus than there already is on Islam/Muslims. In the hope that his actions will help mend a centuries old violent thread that runs deeply through the Islamic tapestry. Giving ordinary Muslims a breathing space in which to embrace peaceful integration.

I can understand how he wants to give them breathing space, but in his way of doing this to excess he shows little to no regard for others genuine concerns. He merely slaps down anything contrary to his ideal, just as any ugly religious zealot would. His is not the middle path.


What then, is the "middle path", in your opinion?

In mine, it is to not continually persecute people because they believe in a different religion to the accepted norm.  We have seen all too often what the consequences of that sort of policy result in.  Islamophobia concentrates, far too much IMO on what the tiny minority of Islamist Terrorists do and not upon what the overwhelming majority of peaceful, law-abiding, well assimilated Muslims are doing.

Islam can be criticised and most Muslims ignore criticism of their religion.  The problem is most criticism of Islam is based upon IMHO ignorance and myth, rather than reality.  Islam is different to Christianity and Judaism.  Is that bad a thing?  Not necessarily in a Multi-religious, Multicultural society.   Time people learnt to live with it.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:31pm
Just goes to show how unintelligent muzzies are.

allahs' chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the muzzies kill themselves by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned muzzies into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony leftards keep this crap up?

islam is a muslim supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, islam is the problem, nothing more nothing less.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:35pm

Quote:
Islam is different to Christianity and Judaism.  Is that bad a thing?  Not necessarily in a Multi-religious, Multicultural society
.

Point is, people in the West do not want, nor did they invite, a multi cultural society

it was imposed upon them by the self-appointed world shapers/world destroyers

and in order to achieve their objective, the world-destroyers engineered wars as an excuse to create 'multi cultural societies' in the West

and people don't want multi culturalism, no matter how it's sold to them as 'enriching'.

People prefer their own. It's hard wired into humans

Muslims, for example, prefer their own.  As demonstrated by the muslim ghettos created in every land they've been dumped on

So muslims prefer their own, beyond any doubt. They worship at mosques and send their kids to muslim-exclusive schools. They take over entire suburbs within established western cities

so seeing you've taken it upon yourself to tell people to 'live with it'

take that same multi cultural message to muslims in the west -- tell them their culture is going to be deconstructed in the interests of assimilation and tell them to live with it

and of course, you won't.  Because no one's paying forum propagandists to pump that message, eh?



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:40pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 2:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm:
Well said.
I agree with Frazer Anning.
He's the new Bobby Menzies.




You really are buggered in the head, if you truly believe that.



As crazy as Bobby Menzies?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhvmsV9bnxQ

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:51pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:

One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first




PZ547,

The Koran, for the moslems,
and O.T. scripture [the books of Moses, and prophets], for the Jews,
are considered to be holy writings, and inspired by their Gods.


The Talmud are Jewish writings, about their religious observance.

Talmud is the creation of, inspired by, and the product of men.



The Talmud, what divine authority does it have ?

Next to the law of Moses ?

None, at all.




But you knew that already      PZ547....

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1411513912/11#11




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:38pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 4:35pm:

Quote:
Islam is different to Christianity and Judaism.  Is that bad a thing?  Not necessarily in a Multi-religious, Multicultural society
.

Point is, people in the West do not want, nor did they invite, a multi cultural society


85% of Australians disagree with your viewpoint, mate.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:16pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.

Karnal will be along presently to polish you, Turd.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Dnarever on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:35pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:12pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 12:06pm:
here is the only thing we need to know in regard to Islamic immigration, "What I said and has been proven completely true is that Islamic populations when they increase in number will result in an increase in violence".Fraser Anning is not a neo Nazi for stating the truth. Neither are Australians bigots or racists for not wishing this violence to be imported here.


Well said.
I agree with Frazer Anning.
He's the new Bobby Menzies.


A new Bob Menzies would come in very handy if you had some space to waste

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm

Dnarever wrote on Apr 23rd, 2019 at 10:14pm:

Quote:
Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.


Every chance he gets.

Fraser is more part of the problem than anything to do with a solution.

What is the solution, ducky, from behind those cute corks on your hat?

Speaking out against an intolerant religion is a problem of intolerance!!!!


Or what?  You wouldn't have a clue but you are with the mob. Like Shorten, 'whatever she said I agree with'. That's the gut you are identifying with.   The stupidity is disappointing wholly expected.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Brian would never say such a thing about something like...………. Islam??? :-?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:50pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Brian would never say such a thing about something like...………. Islam??? :-?



Could he be part of the PC brigade that confirms he's an Islamic apologist?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:55pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Brian would never say such a thing about something like...………. Islam??? :-?



Could he be part of the PC brigade that confirms he's an Islamic apologist?

You are on the money Bobby. He hates us. He was picked on at school or never made the footy team. He'll back anybody over you average white Australian. He does it over and over again. There's a whole bunch of them on here. Cultural cringe or some other reason.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:58pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Brian would never say such a thing about something like...………. Islam??? :-?



Could he be part of the PC brigade that confirms he's an Islamic apologist?

You are on the money Bobby. He hates us. He was picked on at school or never made the footy team. He'll back anybody over you average white Australian. He does it over and over again. There's a whole bunch of them on here. Cultural cringe or some other reason.



Sometimes he's more of an apologist than Greggy!

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Brian would never say such a thing about something like...………. Islam??? :-?



Could he be part of the PC brigade that confirms he's an Islamic apologist?

You are on the money Bobby. He hates us. He was picked on at school or never made the footy team. He'll back anybody over you average white Australian. He does it over and over again. There's a whole bunch of them on here. Cultural cringe or some other reason.



Sometimes he's more of an apologist than Greggy!

Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:08pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.



Maybe Brian is just trying to bait us?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:16pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.



Maybe Brian is just trying to bait us?

We all do that. I don't have a problem with baiting. It's the lack of consistency. He bangs on about our stance towards Islam but does exactly the same thing. Defending one religion while knocking another is a lie. He's a liar.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)

:D :D :D :D :D

And don't you just LOVE it, you degenerate old demagogue!! You LOVE it!!!  Oh, to be a self-righteous thunderous wanker like you, Bwian, is very heaven, isn't it? Oh yes, you are revelling in it, absolutely revelling in it. You are covered in it it, the wank is just dripping off you and you LOVE it!!!!

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:49pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.



Maybe Brian is just trying to bait us?

We all do that. I don't have a problem with baiting. It's the lack of consistency. He bangs on about our stance towards Islam but does exactly the same thing. Defending one religion while knocking another is a lie. He's a liar.




Brian is too pro-Muslim and he's anti-Christian.

Either he's with us or he's with the terrorists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:15pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.


Errr, I'm not a Christian, Bobby.  So how can I be a "traitor" to your "Christian heritage"?

I am not ashamed of myself in the slightest.  How about you?  Afterall, you don't act like a Christian very much, do you?   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:18pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:58pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:50pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)



Brian,
you're a traitor to our Christian heritage.
You should feel ashamed of yourself.

Brian would never say such a thing about something like...………. Islam??? :-?



Could he be part of the PC brigade that confirms he's an Islamic apologist?

You are on the money Bobby. He hates us. He was picked on at school or never made the footy team. He'll back anybody over you average white Australian. He does it over and over again. There's a whole bunch of them on here. Cultural cringe or some other reason.



Sometimes he's more of an apologist than Greggy!

Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You, "smack me in the mouth"?  Really?  Hammer, you can come and find me any day of the week.  I am in the phone book if you're interested.   It would be amusing to see you out from your basement trying to hit me.   It really would.   Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)

I am going to the Dawn Service tomorrow morning.  Enjoy your nice sleep in, fool.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 24th, 2019 at 11:21pm

Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)

:D :D :D :D :D

And don't you just LOVE it, you degenerate old demagogue!! You LOVE it!!!  Oh, to be a self-righteous thunderous wanker like you, Bwian, is very heaven, isn't it? Oh yes, you are revelling in it, absolutely revelling in it. You are covered in it it, the wank is just dripping off you and you LOVE it!!!!




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Projecting again, Soren?  Really?  Look, run along back to your little kiddies' playground where you can roll in that nice new patch of mud they've prepared just for you, OK?

Unlike you, I am a real Australian.  Remember,  I was born here, you just flew here.   You won't even understand what tomorrow is all about, now will you, Dane?   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:24am
brian is just another aussie 

he will sink to the lowest level to make the thread about him...

why do you guys feed him???????...

he loves it.....he feels so superior and so full of himself....just like a cult leader...

.look at me....I am perfect...I am God ....its all about meeeeeeeeeeeeeee.worship only meeeeeeeeeeeee


and the idiots do.... ::) ::) ::) ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:41am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.



Maybe Brian is just trying to bait us?

We all do that. I don't have a problem with baiting. It's the lack of consistency. He bangs on about our stance towards Islam but does exactly the same thing. Defending one religion while knocking another is a lie. He's a liar.




Brian is too pro-Muslim and he's anti-Christian.

Either he's with us or he's with the terrorists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg



Brian,      ...and Scott Morrison, and Bill Shorten.

Australia, is a moslem country      bobby.



And our mainstream political leaders,       ....are with the moslems.






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:58am

Yadda wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:41am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:16pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:01pm:
Greggy is a bit smarter. Brian has just made a tool out of himself for showing a massive religious bias. No religion is free of negatives yet I've never read one bad thing about another religion come out of his silly brain. He's a liar. I'd like to smack him in the mouth to tell you the truth Bobby. People like him are killing our country.



Maybe Brian is just trying to bait us?

We all do that. I don't have a problem with baiting. It's the lack of consistency. He bangs on about our stance towards Islam but does exactly the same thing. Defending one religion while knocking another is a lie. He's a liar.




Brian is too pro-Muslim and he's anti-Christian.

Either he's with us or he's with the terrorists:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qdvm6h8WKg



Brian,      ...and Scott Morrison, and Bill Shorten.

Australia, is a moslem country      bobby.



And our mainstream political leaders,       ....are with the moslems.




Bobby Menzies would turn over in his grave:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhvmsV9bnxQ

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:29am

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


Nope.

Not even close.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:35am
Can you suggest a greater threat?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 25th, 2019 at 9:03am

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:35am:
Can you suggest a greater threat?


BWIAN........

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2019 at 11:44am

Frank wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:41pm:
Just goes to show how unintelligent Christians are.

Christ's chosen people have all been mislead by the evil white Christian Judaic west.

These evil white western Judaeo Christians have conspired to make the themselves kill Muslims by the millions in the last 1400 years, have made them into a massive almost unsolvable refugee problem, have forced them to slaughter their children in the hundreds of thousands with hunger and refugee trauma, have turned Christians into global terrorist organizations, have forced them to rape kids with legal child marriage and boy play, have made them turn their heartlands into piles of rubble etc. etc. etc.

How long will the loony Christians keep this crap up?

Christianity is a Christian supremacist death cult.

It's got absolutely nothing to do with anybody else, Christianity is the problem, nothing more nothing less.    ::) ::)

:D :D :D :D :D

And don't you just LOVE it, you degenerate old demagogue!! You LOVE it!!!  Oh, to be a self-righteous thunderous wanker like you, Bwian, is very heaven, isn't it? Oh yes, you are revelling in it, absolutely revelling in it. You are covered in it it, the wank is just dripping off you and you LOVE it!!!!


Roll over, dear. It's time for your "injection".

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 25th, 2019 at 11:58am

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:35am:
Can you suggest a greater threat?


Voter apathy.

Ignorance.

Corrupt political parties.

Nationalism.

Far-right extremism.

White supremacist groups.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 11:58am:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:35am:
Can you suggest a greater threat?


Voter apathy.

Ignorance.

Corrupt political parties.

Nationalism.

Far-right extremism.

White supremacist groups.


FD refuses to comment on them. Ask him about Donald J Trump.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:45pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 11:58am:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:35am:
Can you suggest a greater threat?


Voter apathy.

Ignorance.

Corrupt political parties.

Nationalism.

Far-right extremism.

White supremacist groups.


There are currently over a billion people living without basic rights and freedoms thanks to Islam.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:54pm

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 11:58am:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:35am:
Can you suggest a greater threat?


Voter apathy.

Ignorance.

Corrupt political parties.

Nationalism.

Far-right extremism.

White supremacist groups.


There are currently over a billion people living without basic rights and freedoms thanks to Islam.


Weren't we talking about the freedom of decent white people everywhere?

Why'd you bring the tinted races into it?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:09pm

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


And in those few centuries, no one else has come close to them in the level of violence and (dare I say it) terrorism.

But a serious question for you FD: do you think muslims in Australia face a significant threat to their freedom from the likes of Anning?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:28pm
He speaks again:
Watch the video.

https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/anning-we-can-expect-attack-like-sri-lanka-in-australia-if-we-keep-importing-muslims/video/44e15c3430b1f22fbf1b5f2f34830423

Anning: We Can Expect Attack Like Sri Lanka in Australia if 'We Keep Importing Muslims'

Fraser Anning, the Queensland senator, released a video on Tuesday, April 23, in which he said Australia could expect an attack similar to Sri Lanka if it kept “importing these people, these Muslims, a certain percentage of which are terrorists.” Holding up a copy of the Koran, Anning said, “This is the book that authorized the killing of those people, it’s the book that all of them read, they all follow the Koran.” The video was released by Anning after a series of tweets in which he called for an end to Muslim immigration. Later on Tuesday, Anning spoke at a candidate panel in Brisbane, during which he called Muslim immigration “greatest threat to the nation.”


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Sir lastnail on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:49pm
It's not often I agree with Andrew Bolt but he is right on this one.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/what-christians-why-the-left-chokes-on-describing-the-easter-bombings/news-story/7f008c86d07b0281b754dd665dc8409b


Quote:
WHAT CHRISTIANS? WHY THE LEFT CHOKES ON DESCRIBING THE EASTER BOMBINGS

Politicians of the Left had no trouble saying last month’s attack on two Christchurch mosques was an attack on Muslims.

But they have lots of trouble saying the attack on three Sri Lankan churches on Easter Sunday was an attack on Christians.

Is there clearer evidence of the Left’s fear of offending Muslims and its dishonest refusal to admit there’s a war against Christians?

When a lone white racist killed 50 Muslims in Christchurch, Greens leader Richard Di Natale tweeted: “We stand with the Muslim community.”

But when Muslim terrorists murdered 359 people at three churches and several hotels on Christianity’s holiest day, Di Natale refused to even acknowledge Christians were the target.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm
Fraser is right.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:04pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Fraser is right.


Yes, far right.

A far right, neo-Nazi.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Fraser is right.


Yes, far right.

A far right, neo-Nazi.



He is right to say -

Anning: We Can Expect Attack Like Sri Lanka in Australia if 'We Keep Importing Muslims'

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Fraser is right.


Yes, far right.

A far right, neo-Nazi.



He is right to say -

Anning: We Can Expect Attack Like Sri Lanka in Australia if 'We Keep Importing Muslims'


Who carried out the terrorist attack in New Zealand, Booby?

Take you time.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2019 at 6:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


And in those few centuries, no one else has come close to them in the level of violence and (dare I say it) terrorism.

But a serious question for you FD: do you think muslims in Australia face a significant threat to their freedom from the likes of Anning?


Not at all, G.

BAN THEM.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Fraser is right.


Yes, far right.

A far right, neo-Nazi.



He is right to say -

Anning: We Can Expect Attack Like Sri Lanka in Australia if 'We Keep Importing Muslims'


Who carried out the terrorist attack in New Zealand, Bobby?

Take you time.




An idiot called Brenton Tarrant who has started a religious war.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:54pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:09pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:05pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 5:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 4:57pm:
Fraser is right.


Yes, far right.

A far right, neo-Nazi.



He is right to say -

Anning: We Can Expect Attack Like Sri Lanka in Australia if 'We Keep Importing Muslims'


Who carried out the terrorist attack in New Zealand, Bobby?

Take you time.


Hang on, I thought the Muselman started it.


An idiot called Brenton Tarrant who has started a religious war.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:11pm
Bobby, can you explain the many faces of Tarrant, to begin with?

Can you explain who were the bodies already piled in corners before Tarrant had made it half way down the hall?  And can you explain who stacked those bodies in piles like that? Can you explain why people in a side room (off the hall) were already lying around with blood on them before Tarrant had even swung right, let alone look in the room or fire a shot into it?

Can you explain why there are different photos of 'Tarrant'?  And why don't they match?

Why was the clip lying in the hallway before Tarrant had made it that far along?

All unanswered questions while the focus is placed on manly Adern and her Islamic garb, hugging, kissing, blah blah

New Zealanders are extremely sceptical of the entire BS story, and those sceptical kiwis include muslims, lots of them

Then we come to Sri Lanka.  The alleged 'terrorists' were members of a wealthy, respected extended family.  They were top of the tree in those regions.  They were educated, had many children. They'd passed without incident or objection through Australia's doors

they owned several successful businesses

In other words, the patriarch, father of about ten now adult kids, had worked assiduously to create a family empire. His adult children were likewise industrious.  The family was noted for its generosity to the poor.  They were respected and trusted in the local and business communities

the latest 'explanation' is that a local 'radical islamist preacher' got into that family's ear and was somehow the planner of the 'terrorist attacks'

Think about it.  Regardless of one's religion, do you really believe that after a lifetime of industriously building a family business empire and with children and grandchildren at stake, your local cleric could persuade not just you as patriarch, but also your sons, daughters and sons and daughters in law, to throw it all away -- everything you've all worked for -- and murder and main hundreds of people including international tourists?

You'd have to be a raving madman if you could be persuaded to do that.  And people who over decades build successful businesses and extended families and homes etc. are rarely madmen.  They are most often calm, deliberate, focused, intelligent and courageous, because successful businesses and successful extended families do not grow on trees.  They require thought, work, tolerance, etc.


so I don't buy it, not any of it

instead, I suspect -- lacking any genuine and factual information -- that if -- massive IF -- that Sri Lankan family had anything at all to do with the atrocities of which they're now being accused, it could only be because they'd been blackmailed.  For example, if the patriarch or his adult sons had had a gun held to their heads with the deadly assurance that if they did NOT carry those explosive devices into the designated areas, then their extended family members would die


and for some reason, the whore media provided video of one of the supposed maniacal terrorists pat a random little kid on the head as he passed.  You believe that's the sort of thing you'd do when on the way to murder and maim hundreds in addition to walking towards your own explosive death?

it's BS

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:15pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Bobby, can you explain the many faces of Tarrant, to begin with?

Can you explain who were the bodies already piled in corners before Tarrant had made it half way down the hall?  And can you explain who stacked those bodies in piles like that? Can you explain why people in a side room (off the hall) were already lying around with blood on them before Tarrant had even swung right, let alone look in the room or fire a shot into it?

Can you explain why there are different photos of 'Tarrant'?  And why don't they match?

Why was the clip lying in the hallway before Tarrant had made it that far along?

All unanswered questions while the focus is placed on manly Adern and her Islamic garb, hugging, kissing, blah blah

New Zealanders are extremely sceptical of the entire BS story, and those sceptical kiwis include muslims, lots of them

Then we come to Sri Lanka.  The alleged 'terrorists' were members of a wealthy, respected extended family.  They were top of the tree in those regions.  They were educated, had many children. They'd passed without incident or objection through Australia's doors

they owned several successful businesses

In other words, the patriarch, father of about ten now adult kids, had worked assiduously to create a family empire. His adult children were likewise industrious.  The family was noted for its generosity to the poor.  They were respected and trusted in the local and business communities

the latest 'explanation' is that a local 'radical islamist preacher' got into that family's ear and was somehow the planner of the 'terrorist attacks'

Think about it.  Regardless of one's religion, do you really believe that after a lifetime of industriously building a family business empire and with children and grandchildren at stake, your local cleric could persuade not just you as patriarch, but also your sons, daughters and sons and daughters in law, to throw it all away -- everything you've all worked for -- and murder and main hundreds of people including international tourists?

You'd have to be a raving madman if you could be persuaded to do that.  And people who over decades build successful businesses and extended families and homes etc. are rarely madmen.  They are most often calm, deliberate, focused, intelligent and courageous, because successful businesses and successful extended families do not grow on trees.  They require thought, work, tolerance, etc.


so I don't buy it, not any of it

instead, I suspect -- lacking any genuine and factual information -- that if -- massive IF -- that Sri Lankan family had anything at all to do with the atrocities of which they're now being accused, it could only be because they'd been blackmailed.  For example, if the patriarch or his adult sons had had a gun held to their heads with the deadly assurance that if they did NOT carry those explosive devices into the designated areas, then their extended family members would die


and for some reason, the whore media provided video of one of the supposed maniacal terrorists pat a random little kid on the head as he passed.  You believe that's the sort of thing you'd do when on the way to murder and maim hundreds in addition to walking towards your own explosive death?

it's BS



dear PZ547,
you'll only drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why things happen in this world.
Nothing seems to make sense anymore.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:19pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:15pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
Bobby, can you explain the many faces of Tarrant, to begin with?

Can you explain who were the bodies already piled in corners before Tarrant had made it half way down the hall?  And can you explain who stacked those bodies in piles like that? Can you explain why people in a side room (off the hall) were already lying around with blood on them before Tarrant had even swung right, let alone look in the room or fire a shot into it?

Can you explain why there are different photos of 'Tarrant'?  And why don't they match?

Why was the clip lying in the hallway before Tarrant had made it that far along?

All unanswered questions while the focus is placed on manly Adern and her Islamic garb, hugging, kissing, blah blah

New Zealanders are extremely sceptical of the entire BS story, and those sceptical kiwis include muslims, lots of them

Then we come to Sri Lanka.  The alleged 'terrorists' were members of a wealthy, respected extended family.  They were top of the tree in those regions.  They were educated, had many children. They'd passed without incident or objection through Australia's doors

they owned several successful businesses

In other words, the patriarch, father of about ten now adult kids, had worked assiduously to create a family empire. His adult children were likewise industrious.  The family was noted for its generosity to the poor.  They were respected and trusted in the local and business communities

the latest 'explanation' is that a local 'radical islamist preacher' got into that family's ear and was somehow the planner of the 'terrorist attacks'

Think about it.  Regardless of one's religion, do you really believe that after a lifetime of industriously building a family business empire and with children and grandchildren at stake, your local cleric could persuade not just you as patriarch, but also your sons, daughters and sons and daughters in law, to throw it all away -- everything you've all worked for -- and murder and main hundreds of people including international tourists?

You'd have to be a raving madman if you could be persuaded to do that.  And people who over decades build successful businesses and extended families and homes etc. are rarely madmen.  They are most often calm, deliberate, focused, intelligent and courageous, because successful businesses and successful extended families do not grow on trees.  They require thought, work, tolerance, etc.


so I don't buy it, not any of it

instead, I suspect -- lacking any genuine and factual information -- that if -- massive IF -- that Sri Lankan family had anything at all to do with the atrocities of which they're now being accused, it could only be because they'd been blackmailed.  For example, if the patriarch or his adult sons had had a gun held to their heads with the deadly assurance that if they did NOT carry those explosive devices into the designated areas, then their extended family members would die


and for some reason, the whore media provided video of one of the supposed maniacal terrorists pat a random little kid on the head as he passed.  You believe that's the sort of thing you'd do when on the way to murder and maim hundreds in addition to walking towards your own explosive death?

it's BS



dear PZ547,
you'll only drive yourself crazy trying to figure out why things happen in this world.
Nothing seems to make sense anymore.



We don't know the truth, Bob

but we know people

And people with large, wealthy extended families, owners of numerous successful businesses, do not destroy not only hundreds of strangers, but the life they've so carefully created for themselves and their families

we might not know explosives technology

but we do know people


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:24pm
.
Here, Bobby

have a look at this

it's ABC news site

Try to make sense of it.  Try to fit this family into the usual 'terrorist' profile

LINK ABC

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:34pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:24pm:
.
We don't know the truth, Bob

but we know people

And people with large, wealthy extended families, owners of numerous successful businesses, do not destroy not only hundreds of strangers, but the life they've so carefully created for themselves and their families

we might not know explosives technology

but we do know people

Here, Bobby

have a look at this

it's ABC news site

Try to make sense of it.  Try to fit this family into the usual 'terrorist' profile

LINK ABC



I read it and it doesn't make sense.
Could it show the power of brainwashing?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 26th, 2019 at 8:27am

PZ547 wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:11pm:
so I don't buy it, not any of it

instead, I suspect -- lacking any genuine and factual information -- that if -- massive IF -- that Sri Lankan family had anything at all to do with the atrocities of which they're now being accused, it could only be because they'd been blackmailed.  For example, if the patriarch or his adult sons had had a gun held to their heads with the deadly assurance that if they did NOT carry those explosive devices into the designated areas, then their extended family members would die


and for some reason, the whore media provided video of one of the supposed maniacal terrorists pat a random little kid on the head as he passed.  You believe that's the sort of thing you'd do when on the way to murder and maim hundreds in addition to walking towards your own explosive death?



you have no idea what brainwashing is all about pz....

look at the mad fools  who join these cults....they even let them divide their families.. as well as taking any money they may have....they appear to believe their cult leader is really god...

dont tell me it isnt a form of brainwashing...they are people with normal reasoning   yet they swallow all this crap.....

the difference with these radical cults... they teach to KILL   the dopes that follow them  never seem to work out    they kill themselves..... THEN WHAT? they are dead what does that prove?......somehow they believe dying with all those bad people they want to kill     is the sensible thing to do.... ::) ::).. being splattered far and wide....is what "God" wants..... :D :D  how can burial be so important  if they have to scrape you off the ground first?...

funny how Christians are taught suicide is a sin  and Muslims are taught its heroic..

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:27am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


And in those few centuries, no one else has come close to them in the level of violence and (dare I say it) terrorism.

But a serious question for you FD: do you think muslims in Australia face a significant threat to their freedom from the likes of Anning?


Not until they blow a few more things up Gandalf.

Do you think white people are a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy than Islam?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 27th, 2019 at 2:09pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:27am:
Do you think white people are a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy than Islam?


White people?  Nope.  Christians?  Perhaps.   White Supremacists?  Yes, especially.

Don't bother asking more questions of me, FD.  When you answer some of mine, I might bother answering some of yours.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 2:27pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


And in those few centuries, no one else has come close to them in the level of violence and (dare I say it) terrorism.

But a serious question for you FD: do you think muslims in Australia face a significant threat to their freedom from the likes of Anning?

Not at all.

Bring no more Muslims and Africans and Chinese ans Indians - third world immigrants - is no threat to anyone already here.

Is the presence of jihadis in Australia a significant threat to the freedom of everyone else?  Very clearly and evidently yes.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 2:49pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 2:27pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 25th, 2019 at 8:28am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 6:33pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 5:58pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 24th, 2019 at 3:50pm:

Quote:
One day the world will wake up and call on muzzies to purge the evil in the doctrine of islam


Talmud first


Nothing comes close to Islam in the open promotion of violence and warfare.


Nothing comes close to right-wing extremism and white supremacy in actual violence and warfare.


White people have dominated the globe for a few centuries now. They lead in pretty much everything. But Islam is still the greatest modern threat to freedom and democracy.


And in those few centuries, no one else has come close to them in the level of violence and (dare I say it) terrorism.

But a serious question for you FD: do you think muslims in Australia face a significant threat to their freedom from the likes of Anning?

Not at all.

Bring no more Muslims and Africans and Chinese ans Indians - third world immigrants - is no threat to anyone already here.

Is the presence of jihadis in Australia a significant threat to the freedom of everyone else?  Very clearly and evidently yes.


How about white supremacists, old boy? The biggest terrorist attack down here was done by Whitey.

Do they represent a significant threat to the freedom of everyone else? They've just banned automatics in New Zealand.

Very clearly and evidently yes or no?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:02pm
.

Quote:
Muslims comprise only 1 per cent of New Zealand's population and 2.6 per cent of the Australian population


LINK today's news ABC

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:25pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:02pm:
.

Quote:
Muslims comprise only 1 per cent of New Zealand's population and 2.6 per cent of the Australian population


LINK today's news ABC


Today or rather 21 Mar 2019, 6:45am's news?   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:37pm
ASIO Director-General testifies before the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Legislation Committee.

Australian jihadists currently in Syria and Iraq:
“ASIO assessed that around 110 Australians are currently in Syria or Iraq and have fought or otherwise supported the Islamic extremist groups.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 24 May 2018, page 100.

Australians killed while involved with jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq:
“At least 78 and possibly as many as 90 Australians have been killed because of their involvement in the conflict.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 24 May 2018, page 100.

Australians subject to travel restrictions:
“Since 2012, around 240 Australian passports have been cancelled or refused and 39 Australian passports have been suspended on ASIO’s recommendation in relation to Syria and Iraq.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 24 May 2018, page 100.

Total number of Australians who traveled and joined jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq during the conflict:
“Since 2012, around 220 Australians have travelled to Syria/Iraq to join the conflict. Although unable to further breakdown these figures for security reasons, ASIO notes that as the conflict continues, fewer individuals are successfully entering the conflict zone.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 27 February 2018.


220 Australian muslims have joined overseas terrorist groups.

2.9% of the people (muslims) have produced 220 terrrorists who have gone overseas to fight for islamic terrorism.

muslims are a total disgrace, what are they preaching in their mosques to have this reprehensible number of terrorists rise from their extreme minority of 2.9% of the population.

This doesn't include the number muslims who have planned or committed islamic terrorist attacks in Australia.

islam is a death cult no wonder our loony leftards are such submissive supporters.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:02pm:
.

Quote:
Muslims comprise only 1 per cent of New Zealand's population and 2.6 per cent of the Australian population


LINK today's news ABC


Today or rather 21 Mar 2019, 6:45am's news?   ::)



do you feel stupid?

It was in the roll-call in today's

but you have worms, so it's understandable you can only relieve that infestation by idiotically nit picking to hear the sound of your own voice.  Right

Now -- do you imagine the percentages have changed radically in just over a month?

No.  They have not

So you should feel stupid

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:15pm

moses wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 3:37pm:
ASIO Director-General testifies before the Legal and Constitutional Affairs Legislation Committee.

Australian jihadists currently in Syria and Iraq:
“ASIO assessed that around 110 Australians are currently in Syria or Iraq and have fought or otherwise supported the Islamic extremist groups.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 24 May 2018, page 100.

Australians killed while involved with jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq:
“At least 78 and possibly as many as 90 Australians have been killed because of their involvement in the conflict.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 24 May 2018, page 100.

Australians subject to travel restrictions:
“Since 2012, around 240 Australian passports have been cancelled or refused and 39 Australian passports have been suspended on ASIO’s recommendation in relation to Syria and Iraq.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 24 May 2018, page 100.

Total number of Australians who traveled and joined jihadist groups in Syria and Iraq during the conflict:
“Since 2012, around 220 Australians have travelled to Syria/Iraq to join the conflict. Although unable to further breakdown these figures for security reasons, ASIO notes that as the conflict continues, fewer individuals are successfully entering the conflict zone.” ASIO DG Duncan Lewis, 27 February 2018.


220 Australian muslims have joined overseas terrorist groups.

2.9% of the people (muslims) have produced 220 terrrorists who have gone overseas to fight for islamic terrorism.

muslims are a total disgrace, what are they preaching in their mosques to have this reprehensible number of terrorists rise from their extreme minority of 2.9% of the population.

This doesn't include the number muslims who have planned or committed islamic terrorist attacks in Australia.

islam is a death cult no wonder our loony leftards are such submissive supporters.



Maybe Aussies shouldn't have become involved in the conflict?  At all?  Why DID Australians become involved in the conflict?  Because USrael insisted Aussie become involved in the conflict?


and why did USrael become involved in the mid east?

for the benefit of izrail --- ongoing agenda for Greater izrail ?


US has said publicly that it cannot and will not defend Australia


and izrail certainly would not


so why are Aussies involved in the agenda for a Greater izrail ?


pretty stupid of Aussies to have become involved


maybe Australia will learn one day to keep its nose out

how do the families of the dead Aussie troops feel about visiting a cemetery containing the remains of their dead kids -- do they really believe their kids died for 'our freedums' ?

if they do, they produced kids as stupid as themselves

if Australia had been starved via sanctions and bombed to smithereens, there may well be Aussies overseas who'd be so furious, they'd retaliate by joining a 'terrorist' clique to bomb and kill those who'd killed their fellow Aussies


Fraser Anning is jumping on muslim-fear-porn to gratify his own ego and put dollars and power in his own pockets






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:23pm
PZ547,

Quote:
Fraser Anning is jumping on muslim-fear-porn to gratify his own ego and
put dollars and power in his own pockets.



You're just cynical.
Maybe for the first time in a long time
someone genuine has turned up who wants to do his best for Australia?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:48pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:23pm:
PZ547,

Quote:
Fraser Anning is jumping on muslim-fear-porn to gratify his own ego and
put dollars and power in his own pockets.



You're just cynical.
Maybe for the first time in a long time
someone genuine has turned up who wants to do his best for Australia?



and maybe you're just naïve
most of us were once

less than 3% of the Australian population is muslim

that's pretty small, don't you think, Bob?

Too small for some worn out has-been taking a punt on what he hopes will be his lottery win

by playing on the FEAR of voters

Check out the number of people  murdered in Australia per year

check out the number who die by their own hand

check out how many die in accidents

then come back with the number killed in Australia by Australia's muslim population

By the way Bob, anyone who's reached voting age and who is NOT cynical about scum politicians

is a half wit

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:19pm

PZ547 wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:23pm:
PZ547,

Quote:
Fraser Anning is jumping on muslim-fear-porn to gratify his own ego and
put dollars and power in his own pockets.



You're just cynical.
Maybe for the first time in a long time
someone genuine has turned up who wants to do his best for Australia?



and maybe you're just naïve
most of us were once

less than 3% of the Australian population is muslim

that's pretty small, don't you think, Bob?

Too small for some worn out has-been taking a punt on what he hopes will be his lottery win

by playing on the FEAR of voters

Check out the number of people  murdered in Australia per year

check out the number who die by their own hand

check out how many die in accidents

then come back with the number killed in Australia by Australia's muslim population

By the way Bob, anyone who's reached voting age and who is NOT cynical about scum politicians

is a half wit



You're too cynical  -
there must be one honest man amongst the 100s in Canberra?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:19pm:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 4:23pm:
PZ547,

Quote:
Fraser Anning is jumping on muslim-fear-porn to gratify his own ego and
put dollars and power in his own pockets.



You're just cynical.
Maybe for the first time in a long time
someone genuine has turned up who wants to do his best for Australia?



and maybe you're just naïve
most of us were once

less than 3% of the Australian population is muslim

that's pretty small, don't you think, Bob?

Too small for some worn out has-been taking a punt on what he hopes will be his lottery win

by playing on the FEAR of voters

Check out the number of people  murdered in Australia per year

check out the number who die by their own hand

check out how many die in accidents

then come back with the number killed in Australia by Australia's muslim population

By the way Bob, anyone who's reached voting age and who is NOT cynical about scum politicians

is a half wit


You're too cynical  -
there must be one honest man amongst the 100s in Canberra?


Do you honestly believe that of Anning, Bobby? Really, seriously?

Remember, this was the man who was elected because Malcom Roberts was forced to resign 'cause Roberts couldn't figure out what citizenship he held.  Anning resigned from the PHONies the day he was sworn into the Senate.  He joined the Katter party.  He was kicked out after he made his inflammatory maiden speech to the Senate.   He has chased the alt-right rather cynically ever since.   He wants more than 19 votes, which was all that was required by his predecessor in a double-dissolution election to get get elected.   He has turned up to alt-right events across Australia.  He has deliberately insulted immigrants and Muslim Australians to get that support.   He doesn't really care who comes to Australia as long as they vote for him...    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:36pm
Where is the anger over the apocalyptic barbarism visited upon Christians in Sri Lanka?

Where is the fury? Where are the tweets and blog posts and viral videos offering solidarity to Christians and slamming the bombers as a members of a global fascistic movement?

Such wrath has been notable by its absence, or at least its rarity, in the aftermath of the extremist slaughter that killed at least 253 people, the majority of them Christians marking the resurrection of Christ at Easter Sunday ­services.

Yes, there has been sorrow. And there has been some very strong media coverage. People want to know the stories of those who were killed, and feel the pain of the those they left behind.

But rage? There has been very little.

In disturbing contrast to the aftermath of the mosque massacres in Christchurch last month, the response to the horrors in Sri Lanka has been muted, cagey, sheepish even.

The Christchurch atrocity provoked an angry and distinctly political response. We must stand as a human family against this vile Islamophobia, world leaders and commentators insisted.

The Sri Lanka atrocity has generated no such sense of global resolve. And this shocking disparity needs to be explained.

To get a sense of the depth of the double standard, consider this: US congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, the Twittersphere’s favourite socialist, tweeted about the Christchurch mas­sacre 14 times; she tweeted about the Sri Lanka atrocity not once.

She isn’t alone. Tweeters have compared and contrasted well-known liberals’ and leftists’ response to Christchurch and their response to Sri Lanka.

They found that these people tweeted and posted and condemned far less after Sri Lanka than they did after Christchurch.

Those who have seen fit to comment on the extinguishing of 253 souls have used strikingly different language to the language they used after Christchurch.

British Prime Minister Theresa May correctly described the slaughter in Christchurch as a “horrifying terrorist attack”.

But she couldn’t bring herself to use the T-word in relation to the Sri Lanka bombings. She called them “acts of violence”. She didn’t say “Christian” either, which is perverse, considering this was clearly an act of mass hateful violence against Christians.

This was “violence against churches and hotels”, said May. No it wasn’t. The aim was not to damage buildings.

It was to kill the human beings inside those buildings. Otherwise known as Christians.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/inquirer/christchurch-sri-lanka-hierarchy-of-victimhood/news-story/04a053cf33441f82e7d72464fb5bebf5

After 'we are all Muslims' in March, nobody is saying now, 'we are all Christians', after an Easter Sunday Islamic massacre that dwarfs Christchurch.  The hierarchy of victimhood is obvious to everyone.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:48pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 2:49pm:
How about white supremacists, old boy? The biggest terrorist attack down here was done by Whitey.

Do they represent a significant threat to the freedom of everyone else? They've just banned automatics in New Zealand.

Very clearly and evidently yes or no?

After you, shiteeater.

We condemned the ideology behind Christchurch. Why didn’t we do the same after Sri Lanka?

The carnage in Sri Lanka which left more than 300 dead may have been carried out by ‘Buddhists’, according to the BBC Today presenter Nick Robinson on the morning after those hideous bombings. We all grope slowly towards meaning, don’t we? We look for precedent, we search for clues. I did both when I heard of the murders and came to a different conclusion to Nick. Someone had attacked Christians and westerners in a series of suicide bombings: that gave me an inkling. Perhaps — just perhaps — it wasn’t Buddhists. Perhaps it was instead the fanatics responsible for the vast majority of terrorism outrages in the world (Global Terrorism Index, 2000-2013) and 92 per cent of all terrorism murders in the United States since 1992 (Cato Institute, 2017). Yes, I thought, it’s probably them again. I didn’t find it a terribly hard call to make.

Compare Nick’s reaction, and indeed the overwhelming reaction of the western world leaders and liberal media, to the murders in Sri Lanka and the murders in Christchurch. In the latter case, everybody was clear firstly that it was terrorism and that Muslim people had been targeted, and they were happy to say as much. But they did not stop there. With great alacrity they also identified the poisonous ideology behind the Christchurch attack: racism, Islamophobia and white supremacy. The far right. Many commentators over here, including LBC’s in-house cretin James O’Brien, went further and suggested that those of us who find certain aspects of Islam a little difficult to swallow were directly responsible for the murders. The ideology was seized upon and rightly eviscerated.

Now look at what happened in Sri Lanka, and how we reported it. Of 20 world leaders, ex-leaders (Obama) and hideously useless also-rans (Hillary) who took time to condemn the atrocity, only one — Xavier Bettel of Luxembourg — mentioned that the victims of the attack were Christians. None of the 20 — none — mentioned the word Islam. So in one attack we were rightly enjoined to stand in solidarity with the victim group, who were not merely identified but lionised, and also enjoined to condemn the ideology behind the attack, which was very clearly explained in every broadcast. In the other, the victim group was not named and nor was the ideology. Why should that be?

We have got ourselves in a terrible irrational tangle over Islam and its confected opposite, its specious other, Islamophobia. It may well be that under our current definition of the term, it would be Islamophobic — and therefore a hate crime — simply to state this plain and simple fact: the murders in Sri Lanka were carried out by Muslims in the name of Islam. It is an article of faith for the liberals, who still cleave to the ludicrous idea of multiculturalism, that there are two things: Islam, which is a religion of peace followed by million upon million of pacific souls and must therefore be respected, and this other thing, non-Islam, which is what is followed by a minuscule proportion of nutters and extremists and has nothing to do with the religion itself, or is instead a grotesque perversion of it.

This is wishful thinking taken to surreal levels and an obviously false dichotomy. There are indeed million upon million of peaceable Muslims. But the gap between those two supposed opposites is not so wide as you might think. Almost one in four British Muslims, for example, thought the 7/7 attacks in London were justified (NOP poll, 2006). A year earlier, another poll suggested that 37 per cent of British Muslims thought Jews were a ‘legitimate target’. A poll for BBC Radio 4 in 2015 reported that 45 per cent of British Muslims thought that imams who preach violence against the West were still part of ‘mainstream Islam’. You take my point? And that is only Britain, where our Muslim community has been exposed to the undoubted transcendent virtues of mutual toleration and representative democracy. A worldwide poll from Pew Research in 2013 reported that only 57 per cent of Muslims in the world disapproved of al Qaeda.

The inconvenient truth is that a fervent commitment to Islam led those benighted savages to murder Christians in Sri Lanka and that a sizeable proportion of Muslims worldwide are not entirely averse to such despicable actions. You cannot quite separate Islam from the horrors carried out in its name, no matter how well intentioned you may be. Nor, for that matter, can you separate Islam from the appalling treatment of women, gays, apostates and Christians in states which call themselves Islamic. Islam, as it is practised today, is in general neither peaceable nor tolerant and it seems to me absurd to pretend that it is.

One man got it right on the Sri Lanka atrocity. Rauff Hakeem, from the Sri Lankan Muslim Congress, was prepared to say what the vacillating western leaders would not say: he called for Sri Lankan Muslims to enter a period of introspection, adding: ‘We are ashamed and outraged. We must try to address issues within the community.’

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:51pm
Those were painfully honest and heartfelt words and worth far more than the bovine platitudes bestowed upon the victims by Theresa May et al. And also a reason for hope, amid the shattered limbs and the destroyed lives. Rauff clearly grasps the point rather better than the western world,  which, in its paroxysms of political correctness, engendered partly through fear, blinds itself to the unpleasant realities. And nor, we should add, are the large majority of blameless, peaceable Muslims, most of whom are as outraged as we are about these remorseless attacks. You cannot solve a problem by pretending that it doesn’t exist.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/04/we-condemned-the-ideology-behind-christchurch-why-didnt-we-do-the-same-after-sri-lanka/

Pull your collective muddled heads out of your collective PC arses, multi-culti mongs.  (not you Karnal, you would be lost without ready access to arses and they boon for you so you may stay up Gandalf's and Bwian's).


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm

Quote:
We condemned the ideology behind Christchurch. Why didn’t we do the same after Sri Lanka?


Quite so, but that's not what you said. You argue that we should ban the Muselman, the Darkie and the Chow. For the Muselman, you want him banned for his risk of terrorism.

And yet, the biggest terrorist attack down here was carried out by an Aussie.

Now, we most certainly do condemn the ridiculous ideology of terrorism. In the case of Sri Lanka, what was it all for? It achieved nothing except the condemnation of Sri Lankan Muslims.

But Brenton Tarrant? I can't remember anyone condemning Aussies. White Supremacists, shure.

Now, personally, I doubt Aussies are a heightened security risk because you can't tell them apart from the Neo-Nazis. So one of the following must hold:

1. Either we ban Whitey from New Zealand and Australia because he's a far bigger threat to our security than the Muselman.

Or

2. You made a bit of a mishtake about banning all Muslims. You just mean the ones with the automatic weapons and the cars they use to drive into crowds of decent white people everywhere.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:16pm
The Turkish PM said that Australians would go home in boxes like their grandfathers and the Turkish public loved it. Anning questions Muslim immigration and he's treated like Hitler. Shows the difference between the Muslim world and the western world.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm:

Quote:
We condemned the ideology behind Christchurch. Why didn’t we do the same after Sri Lanka?


Quite so, but that's not what you said. You argue that we should ban the Muselman, the Darkie and the Chow. For the Muselman, you want him banned for his risk of terrorism.

And yet, the biggest terrorist attack down here was carried out by an Aussie.

Now, we most certainly do condemn the ridiculous ideology of terrorism. In the case of Sri Lanka, what was it all for? It achieved nothing except the condemnation of Sri Lankan Muslims.

But Brenton Tarrant? I can't remember anyone condemning Aussies. White Supremacists, shure.

Now, personally, I doubt Aussies are a heightened security risk because you can't tell them apart from the Neo-Nazis. So one of the following must hold:

1. Either we ban Whitey from New Zealand and Australia because he's a far bigger threat to our security than the Muselman.

Or

2. You made a bit of a mishtake about banning all Muslims. You just mean the ones with the automatic weapons and the cars they use to drive into crowds of decent white people everywhere.

Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry.  Would you buy such a bag of Muslim skittles?  What would YOU do, arse bandit?
Live dangerously, of course. But you are an arse bandit and have no thought for anything but your own wank.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:39pm

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
  He has deliberately insulted immigrants and Muslim Australians to get that support.   He doesn't really care who comes to Australia as long as they vote for him...    ::) ::)

He has deliberately insulted immigrants and Muslim Australians to get that support.   He doesn't really care who comes to Australia as long as they are not from shithole countries with anti-Western and anti-white animus (like you, pearl clutching little mad woman)

Vote for Anning!  He must be heard IN parliament.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:44pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm:

Quote:
We condemned the ideology behind Christchurch. Why didn’t we do the same after Sri Lanka?


Quite so, but that's not what you said. You argue that we should ban the Muselman, the Darkie and the Chow. For the Muselman, you want him banned for his risk of terrorism.

And yet, the biggest terrorist attack down here was carried out by an Aussie.

Now, we most certainly do condemn the ridiculous ideology of terrorism. In the case of Sri Lanka, what was it all for? It achieved nothing except the condemnation of Sri Lankan Muslims.

But Brenton Tarrant? I can't remember anyone condemning Aussies. White Supremacists, shure.

Now, personally, I doubt Aussies are a heightened security risk because you can't tell them apart from the Neo-Nazis. So one of the following must hold:

1. Either we ban Whitey from New Zealand and Australia because he's a far bigger threat to our security than the Muselman.

Or

2. You made a bit of a mishtake about banning all Muslims. You just mean the ones with the automatic weapons and the cars they use to drive into crowds of decent white people everywhere.

Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry.  Would you buy such a bag of Muslim skittles?  What would YOU do, arse bandit?
Live dangerously, of course. But you are an arse bandit and have no thought for anything but your own wank.


I'm intrigued, dear boy. Would you ban Brenton Tarrant from New Zealand?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:47pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:39pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 5:29pm:
  He has deliberately insulted immigrants and Muslim Australians to get that support.   He doesn't really care who comes to Australia as long as they vote for him...    ::) ::)

He has deliberately insulted immigrants and Muslim Australians to get that support.   He doesn't really care who comes to Australia as long as they are not from shithole countries with anti-Western and anti-white animus (like you, pearl clutching little mad woman)

Vote for Anning!  He must be heard IN parliament.


A supplementary if I may, dear boy. Are you saying we should ban people with an animus towards Australian culture and values?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:22pm

freediver wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:27am:
Not until they blow a few more things up Gandalf.


Why is it only threatening freedom when they blow things up FD?

They can do it by campaigning to have muslims and Islam banned and/or have their freedoms curbed.

Isn't that a threat to freedom? Plenty of people calling for that.

Or does it only count when its non-muslims' freedoms are under attack?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:27pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:11pm:

Quote:
We condemned the ideology behind Christchurch. Why didn’t we do the same after Sri Lanka?


Quite so, but that's not what you said. You argue that we should ban the Muselman, the Darkie and the Chow. For the Muselman, you want him banned for his risk of terrorism.

And yet, the biggest terrorist attack down here was carried out by an Aussie.

Now, we most certainly do condemn the ridiculous ideology of terrorism. In the case of Sri Lanka, what was it all for? It achieved nothing except the condemnation of Sri Lankan Muslims.

But Brenton Tarrant? I can't remember anyone condemning Aussies. White Supremacists, shure.

Now, personally, I doubt Aussies are a heightened security risk because you can't tell them apart from the Neo-Nazis. So one of the following must hold:

1. Either we ban Whitey from New Zealand and Australia because he's a far bigger threat to our security than the Muselman.

Or

2. You made a bit of a mishtake about banning all Muslims. You just mean the ones with the automatic weapons and the cars they use to drive into crowds of decent white people everywhere.

Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry.  Would you buy such a bag of Muslim skittles?  What would YOU do, arse bandit?
Live dangerously, of course. But you are an arse bandit and have no thought for anything but your own wank.


I'm intrigued, dear boy. Would you ban Brenton Tarrant from New Zealand?

On what grounds would you ban him? The same grounds that you would ban Muslims - they might do something terrible?

So yes. ban Muslims, ban fascists, ban incompatible shiteheads (you are out, m'afraid).


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. We are a global society and muslims are too much a part of that to completely shut them out. Muslims have already contributed a lot to our society, and continue to do so.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:16pm:
The Turkish PM said that Australians would go home in boxes like their grandfathers and the Turkish public loved it. Anning questions Muslim immigration and he's treated like Hitler. Shows the difference between the Muslim world and the western world.


I thought of the lone example of Erdogan, but did he blame Aussies and their ideology for Brenton Tarrant?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:33pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:16pm:
The Turkish PM said that Australians would go home in boxes like their grandfathers and the Turkish public loved it. Anning questions Muslim immigration and he's treated like Hitler. Shows the difference between the Muslim world and the western world.


I thought of the lone example of Erdogan, but did he blame Aussies and their ideology for Brenton Tarrant?

Sounded like it.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Yadda on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:37pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:27am:
Not until they blow a few more things up Gandalf.


Why is it only threatening freedom when they blow things up FD?

They can do it by campaigning to have muslims and Islam banned and/or have their freedoms curbed.

Isn't that a threat to freedom? Plenty of people calling for that.

Or does it only count when its non-muslims' freedoms are under attack?




polite_gandalf = = follower of ISLAM = = moslem = = slave of Allah


As a slave of Allah, the only freedom that a moslem can legitimately lay claim to, is to serve Allah, in his cause, and do that,
by seeking to praise Allah, and [in the service of Allah] to end the lives of those who refuse to.



Non-moslems who are citizens of a pluralist, secular state, have freedoms.

Moslems have Allah, and his perfect religion.



That is an argument gandalf, slave of Allah.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Dnarever on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:42pm

Quote:
We condemned the ideology behind Christchurch. Why didn’t we do the same after Sri Lanka?


We did.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:42pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. We are a global society and muslims are too much a part of that to completely shut them out. Muslims have already contributed a lot to our society, and continue to do so.


Shurely shome mishtake, G. The old boy's not just saying we should blame the Muselman for his terrorism. He's saying we should ban the Chows and the Gollywogs as well.

Let's face it, the old boy's case for banning the Muselman sunk when he spinelessly yeah-but-no-butted white supremacists like Tarrant.

The old boy is conceding here that it's not about Islam or terrorism at all. As the old boy says, even the Chows are tinted. The thing that gets up the old boy's nose about the Muselman isn't just that he has to share the street with them. It's that they have the gall to talk back.

So given the old boy's propensity for calling you a devious liar, what do we have here then?

The old boy pretends it's all about security, but at the heart of it, there's the old boy's stool. They're tinted.

To die for.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:49pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


At least you've given up your mendacity about being somehow able to spot the difference between Whitey and his vanguard of White Supremacists.

Superior culture, innit.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:18pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


You assess which immigrants are a threat to our security and ban accordingly - case by case. I believe its possible to do - but its a question for the intelligence and security people. I don't know their methods, but what I do know they've been pretty successful so far. I also know that your way is the way that the intelligence and security people specifically warn against and believe it will actually put us more at risk. There is also the concept of acceptable risk. This is actually the best option Frank, and its been working ok so far. What is undoubtedly the worst solution - practically, security-wise, not to mention morally, is making blanket bans on the basis of religion.

Its the way its always been, and the only way to keep doing it.

A smart man like you should understand the practical impossibility of keeping out over 20% of the population that is mixed into all societies all over the world. You also should understand the absurdity of it when the overwhelming majority are demonstrably no threat.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:29pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:42pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. We are a global society and muslims are too much a part of that to completely shut them out. Muslims have already contributed a lot to our society, and continue to do so.


Shurely shome mishtake, G. The old boy's not just saying we should blame the Muselman for his terrorism. He's saying we should ban the Chows and the Gollywogs as well.

Let's face it, the old boy's case for banning the Muselman sunk when he spinelessly yeah-but-no-butted white supremacists like Tarrant.

The old boy is conceding here that it's not about Islam or terrorism at all. As the old boy says, even the Chows are tinted. The thing that gets up the old boy's nose about the Muselman isn't just that he has to share the street with them. It's that they have the gall to talk back.

So given the old boy's propensity for calling you a devious liar, what do we have here then?

The old boy pretends it's all about security, but at the heart of it, there's the old boy's stool. They're tinted.

To die for.


Frank has tried on the old "if they can assimilate then colour doesn't matter" ruse.

But I guess he ties himself in knots somewhat when its demonstrated to any reasonable observer that a huge chunk of muslims (the majority) do fit in - even by his chauvenistic standards. How does he maintain his 'ban all muslims' stance after being confronted with that inconvenient truth? Well its the old jar of M&Ms trick then isn't it - its simply impossible to tell the bad ones from the good ones - so better keep them all out.

...and yet then we have Tarrant... hmmm

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:10pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


You assess which immigrants are a threat to our security and ban accordingly - case by case. I believe its possible to do - but its a question for the intelligence and security people. I don't know their methods, but what I do know they've been pretty successful so far. I also know that your way is the way that the intelligence and security people specifically warn against and believe it will actually put us more at risk. There is also the concept of acceptable risk. This is actually the best option Frank, and its been working ok so far. What is undoubtedly the worst solution - practically, security-wise, not to mention morally, is making blanket bans on the basis of religion.

Its the way its always been, and the only way to keep doing it.

A smart man like you should understand the practical impossibility of keeping out over 20% of the population that is mixed into all societies all over the world. You also should understand the absurdity of it when the overwhelming majority are demonstrably no threat.

Keep muslims in muslims countries.
It makes absolutely no sense to import enemies of Western civilisation.

Muslim countries are not letting in Jews, Catholics, Hindus.
Why should the West import its avowed enemies who then proceed to kill and maim for Allah?

Islam brings nothing positive to the West. It brings endless violence, fractiousness and division. It is an entirely negative influence. Keep it out.
Keep Muslims in Muslim countries. They only bring ruin to the West. Thay is their purpose of being in the West - to ruin it.




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:18pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:10pm:
Keep muslims in muslims countries.
It makes absolutely no sense to import enemies of Western civilisation.

Muslim countries are not letting in Jews, Catholics, Hindus.
Why should the West import its avowed enemies who then proceed to kill and maim for Allah?

Islam brings nothing positive to the West. It brings endless violence, fractiousness and division. It is an entirely negative influence. Keep it out.
Keep Muslims in Muslim countries. They only bring ruin to the West. Thay is their purpose of being in the West - to ruin it.




I think the vast majority of Muslims do assimilate OK it's
just the radical few who give the rest of them a bad name.


It's the same as Brenton Tarrant -
we can't accuse all white people of being bad because of one idiot.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:20pm

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 10:10pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


You assess which immigrants are a threat to our security and ban accordingly - case by case. I believe its possible to do - but its a question for the intelligence and security people. I don't know their methods, but what I do know they've been pretty successful so far. I also know that your way is the way that the intelligence and security people specifically warn against and believe it will actually put us more at risk. There is also the concept of acceptable risk. This is actually the best option Frank, and its been working ok so far. What is undoubtedly the worst solution - practically, security-wise, not to mention morally, is making blanket bans on the basis of religion.

Its the way its always been, and the only way to keep doing it.

A smart man like you should understand the practical impossibility of keeping out over 20% of the population that is mixed into all societies all over the world. You also should understand the absurdity of it when the overwhelming majority are demonstrably no threat.

Keep muslims in muslims countries.
It makes absolutely no sense to import enemies of Western civilisation.

Muslim countries are not letting in Jews, Catholics, Hindus.
Why should the West import its avowed enemies who then proceed to kill and maim for Allah?

Islam brings nothing positive to the West. It brings endless violence, fractiousness and division. It is an entirely negative influence. Keep it out.
Keep Muslims in Muslim countries. They only bring ruin to the West. Thay is their purpose of being in the West - to ruin it.


Did you just say we should ban fractiousness and division? An entirely negative influence?

Gee, a smart man like you should understand who the most fractious, divisive and negative presence in our discussion is.

We grew here, dear boy. You?



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:48am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


You assess which immigrants are a threat to our security and ban accordingly - case by case. I believe its possible to do - but its a question for the intelligence and security people. I don't know their methods, but what I do know they've been pretty successful so far. I also know that your way is the way that the intelligence and security people specifically warn against and believe it will actually put us more at risk. There is also the concept of acceptable risk. This is actually the best option Frank, and its been working ok so far. What is undoubtedly the worst solution - practically, security-wise, not to mention morally, is making blanket bans on the basis of religion.

Its the way its always been, and the only way to keep doing it.

A smart man like you should understand the practical impossibility of keeping out over 20% of the population that is mixed into all societies all over the world. You also should understand the absurdity of it when the overwhelming majority are demonstrably no threat.


Should there be a blanket ban on Nazis?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:52am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:27am:
Not until they blow a few more things up Gandalf.


Why is it only threatening freedom when they blow things up FD?

They can do it by campaigning to have muslims and Islam banned and/or have their freedoms curbed.

Isn't that a threat to freedom? Plenty of people calling for that.

Or does it only count when its non-muslims' freedoms are under attack?


That's the answer to the question you asked Gandalf. Anning's support is reactionary. If there is nothing to react to, he is harmless. If things keep blowing up, someone far worse than Anning will rise.

Do you think white people are a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy than Islam?


Brian Ross wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 2:09pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:27am:
Do you think white people are a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy than Islam?


White people?  Nope.  Christians?  Perhaps.   White Supremacists?  Yes, especially.

Don't bother asking more questions of me, FD.  When you answer some of mine, I might bother answering some of yours.   ::)


Are you doing the no more questions thing because you know you are incapable of supporting your argument?


polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry.


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. We are a global society and muslims are too much a part of that to completely shut them out. Muslims have already contributed a lot to our society, and continue to do so.


So the only acceptable option is one that does not actually exist?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:44am

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:48am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


You assess which immigrants are a threat to our security and ban accordingly - case by case. I believe its possible to do - but its a question for the intelligence and security people. I don't know their methods, but what I do know they've been pretty successful so far. I also know that your way is the way that the intelligence and security people specifically warn against and believe it will actually put us more at risk. There is also the concept of acceptable risk. This is actually the best option Frank, and its been working ok so far. What is undoubtedly the worst solution - practically, security-wise, not to mention morally, is making blanket bans on the basis of religion.

Its the way its always been, and the only way to keep doing it.

A smart man like you should understand the practical impossibility of keeping out over 20% of the population that is mixed into all societies all over the world. You also should understand the absurdity of it when the overwhelming majority are demonstrably no threat.


Should there be a blanket ban on Nazis?


There you go with Islam = nazism again.

Its getting old FD, and I have explained at length why the two are not comparable. Nazis are exclusively racist and advocate violence based on a sense of racial superiority. There are no "nice" nazis, as you have lamely tried to claim before. If you are a nazi, you are necessarily a racist and a promoter violence. Thats all there is to it. Its literally their raison d'etre.

Unlike nazis who are exclusively all white westerners, muslims come from all corners of the globle, from every conceivable ethnicity and every conceivable culture. They overwhelmingly support peace and coexistence and are the very antithesis of racists (the quran very directly addresses and condemns racism). Islam itself is clearly based on a doctrine of personal spiritual fulfillment - as encapsulated by the '5 pillars' (none of which have anything to do with violence or hate of others).

So in short, yeah I think you can blanket ban nazis - as they are only nazis because they believe in, and promote hate, racism and violent discrimination.

But I prefer to look at it this way: ban anyone who promotes hate, racism and violent discrimination - so that by default covers every single nazi (they wouldn't be a nazi otherwise). It no doubt would catch a lot of muslims, but not the vast majority of them. By all means if you come across a nazi who is peace loving and doesn't promote hate and racism then you might have a point. But you won't.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 28th, 2019 at 9:02am

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:52am:
Do you think white people are a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy than Islam?


See the problem is FD, when you talk about "freedom and democracy" you are only thinking about decent white non-muslims.

You are singularly incapable of understanding that muslims in Australia already see their freedom being threatened. Its threatened when they are abused and assaulted on on a daily basis for the high crime of wearing a hijab. Its threatened when pigs heads are routinely hurled into mosques, or attacked with arson or vandalism. It might seem like harmless pranking to you, but to actual muslims, it feels like a direct assault on their freedom to worship. And then you get Tarrant, followed immediately by Anning literally saying that was the muslim's fault. Not to mention the 2 posters (at least) here who were actually celebrating the attack, which I think you quietly ignored and pretended didn't happen. But thats nothing unusual really, its the logical conclusion to a fairly incessent campaign that has reached sections of the mainstream media to enact actual laws to ban muslims from exercising their freedom. And when the school my children attend mandates regular drills to prepare the children for Tarrant-style attacks (and actually started even before Tarrant), something that I assume would never happen at a non-Islamic school - then you see how anxious and threatened muslims actually feel.

And this is not 'playing the victim', the concern is real, and there is good justification for that concern.

So to answer your question - in Australia, I think whites pose a far greater threat to muslim's freedom and democracy than Islam - and that should concern anyone worried about threats to freedom and democracy society wide. Also, the threat of "Islam" in Australia is about as insignificant as you can get.


freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:52am:
So the only acceptable option is one that does not actually exist?


It does exist, because we are doing it now.

Didn't you notice we are not banning muslims yet?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:40am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 9:18pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


You assess which immigrants are a threat to our security and ban accordingly - case by case. I believe its possible to do - but its a question for the intelligence and security people. I don't know their methods, but what I do know they've been pretty successful so far. I also know that your way is the way that the intelligence and security people specifically warn against and believe it will actually put us more at risk. There is also the concept of acceptable risk. This is actually the best option Frank, and its been working ok so far. What is undoubtedly the worst solution - practically, security-wise, not to mention morally, is making blanket bans on the basis of religion.

Its the way its always been, and the only way to keep doing it.

A smart man like you should understand the practical impossibility of keeping out over 20% of the population that is mixed into all societies all over the world. You also should understand the absurdity of it when the overwhelming majority are demonstrably no threat.

The sri Lankan jihadist was radicalised by muslims already in Australia.

What to do with those influencers?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:44am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 9:02am:

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:52am:
Do you think white people are a greater modern threat to freedom and democracy than Islam?


See the problem is FD, when you talk about "freedom and democracy" you are only thinking about decent white non-muslims.

You are singularly incapable of understanding that muslims in Australia already see their freedom being threatened. Its threatened when they are abused and assaulted on on a daily basis for the high crime of wearing a hijab. Its threatened when pigs heads are routinely hurled into mosques, or attacked with arson or vandalism. It might seem like harmless pranking to you, but to actual muslims, it feels like a direct assault on their freedom to worship. And then you get Tarrant, followed immediately by Anning literally saying that was the muslim's fault. Not to mention the 2 posters (at least) here who were actually celebrating the attack, which I think you quietly ignored and pretended didn't happen. But thats nothing unusual really, its the logical conclusion to a fairly incessent campaign that has reached sections of the mainstream media to enact actual laws to ban muslims from exercising their freedom. And when the school my children attend mandates regular drills to prepare the children for Tarrant-style attacks (and actually started even before Tarrant), something that I assume would never happen at a non-Islamic school - then you see how anxious and threatened muslims actually feel.

And this is not 'playing the victim', the concern is real, and there is good justification for that concern.

So to answer your question - in Australia, I think whites pose a far greater threat to muslim's freedom and democracy than Islam - and that should concern anyone worried about threats to freedom and democracy society wide. Also, the threat of "Islam" in Australia is about as insignificant as you can get.


freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:52am:
So the only acceptable option is one that does not actually exist?


It does exist, because we are doing it now.

Didn't you notice we are not banning muslims yet?

If muslims in Australia didnt harbour their jihadis they would be left alone. A hijab - any funny costume - does not in itself attract hostility. It is Islamic jihad that makes muslims hatred, not anything else.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:04am
.
If there were no threats to security

government would invent some

and they do

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:18am

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:04am:
.
If there were no threats to security

government would invent some

and they do




WHY?... which ones have they invented. ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:32pm

cods wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:18am:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:04am:
.
If there were no threats to security

government would invent some

and they do




WHY?... which ones have they invented. ::)


Do you remember Children Overboard, dear?

A rollicking erection if there was ever one. Mr Howard was on the back foot. Up in the badlands, some darkies try to take on Whitey.

Imagine, their boat breaks down, the Australian navy comes to cheer them up and send them home, and they all start throwing their children into the water like grenades. Hopefully, they can make it to Australia and become terrorists. Either that, or outbreed us. Or simply drown. It's all good.

All this, of course, was the theme on talkback radio and agreed to by Mr Howard. Oh, I know. Terrible people! WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

And lo! Mr Howard won that erection. Whitey: 1, tinted races: 0.

I blame the parents. You?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:42pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 12:32pm:

cods wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:18am:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:04am:
.
If there were no threats to security

government would invent some

and they do




WHY?... which ones have they invented. ::)


Do you remember Children Overboard, dear?

A rollicking erection if there was ever one. Mr Howard was on the back foot. Up in the badlands, some darkies try to take on Whitey.

Imagine, their boat breaks down, the Australian navy comes to cheer them up and send them home, and they all start throwing their children into the water like grenades. Hopefully, they can make it to Australia and become terrorists. Either that, or outbreed us. Or simply drown. It's all good.

All this, of course, was the theme on talkback radio and agreed to by Mr Howard. Oh, I know. Terrible people! WE DON'T WANT THEM HERE.

And lo! Mr Howard won that erection. Whitey: 1, tinted races: 0.

I blame the parents. You?

You should write a children's book on history Karnal.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by PZ547 on Apr 28th, 2019 at 1:25pm
People are incredibly dumb

it's as if they believe in Noddy Land are are oblivious, for some reason, to the stark reality

some believe they're voting in a particular party

it's as if they're unaware of the immense influence exerted by the media

people believe they have information about a particular party.  Yet they don't question teh source of that information.  They would most likely deny they've been influenced by the media. They might claim they made up their own mind.  Based on what?  That's right --  based on information from the media

So we're led like sheep to vote this way and that.  The media is the dog which herds them

Then it must be appreciated that we will never get a truly independent politician or national leader.  Or aren't people aware of the constant flights by politicians to of all places ... izrail

they all go to izrail regularly, often entire plane loads of them

and people don't ask WHY?  Why are Australian politicians constantly going to or returning from izrail ?  No one curious? 

So the elections in Oz (and elsewhere) are merely a vent, a release of steam, just like the pressure cooker at the back of the kitchen bench.  A release of angst.  The hope for a new beginning, for a different direction, something to get our country back on track

Anning is a tool.  A divisive tool.  He's a pressure release for all those who don't like the way things are going -- don't like house prices and seeing foreign faces in every street, every workplace.  Anning has found a niche which sets him apart.  He deliberately appeals to those who're cheesed off about this or that.  All politicians aim to find a niche market -- their material comfort and retirement relies on hitting just that right nerve, the one which translates to votes thus money and power for that politician

Rest assured however, that whomever grabs the most votes, they will not open their mouths or do a thing until they've attended the mandatory de-brief and programming sessions in izrail

and if you don't believe this, get stuck into the archives, although for some reason the all powerful media is shy about reporting the massive and unexplained influence held by izrail in this and so many other countries


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on Apr 28th, 2019 at 2:28pm
PZ wrote: Reply #114 - Yesterday at 4:15pm


Quote:
Maybe Aussies shouldn't have become involved in the conflict?  At all?  Why DID Australians become involved in the conflict?  Because USrael insisted Aussie become involved in the conflict?


and why did USrael become involved in the mid east?

for the benefit of izrail --- ongoing agenda for Greater izrail ?


US has said publicly that it cannot and will not defend Australia


and izrail certainly would not


so why are Aussies involved in the agenda for a Greater izrail ?


pretty stupid of Aussies to have become involved


maybe Australia will learn one day to keep its nose out

how do the families of the dead Aussie troops feel about visiting a cemetery containing the remains of their dead kids -- do they really believe their kids died for 'our freedums' ?

if they do, they produced kids as stupid as themselves

if Australia had been starved via sanctions and bombed to smithereens, there may well be Aussies overseas who'd be so furious, they'd retaliate by joining a 'terrorist' clique to bomb and kill those who'd killed their fellow Aussies


Fraser Anning is jumping on muslim-fear-porn to gratify his own ego and put dollars and power in his own pockets


Why are you so intent on excusing the muslim terrorist PZ?

Your conspiracy theories on Jews ruling the world are just that, conspiracy theories with no basis in fact.

I know the qur'an is a muslim supremacist handbook for terror, it preaches that all religion should be for allah, that muslims have the right to rape torture and kill (the highest grade of muslims are those who slay and are slain).

As far as I can see the Jews have no interest in dominating the globe or converting everybody to Judaism, just the opposite in fact, all they want is to be left alone in the land that was promised to them.

I 100% support ours and other governments who are fighting the war on islamic terror.

I do not believe that muslim terorists only exist because of some great past injustices done to muslims.

I absolutely believe that the state of the muslims today is the result of 1400 years of a primitive degenerate ideology, implemented by muhammad when he changed the attributes of his pagan moon god allah into a monotheistic god of hate rape torture and mass murder against hypocrites corrupters blasphemers apostates and all non believers.

islam rules by fear of death, questioning the insane rantings of muhammad is forbidden.

Do you really believe that outside forces have made islam what it is today?

How did your outside forces get the mussies to practice inbreeding on the scale they do, suppression of women, forced childhood marriage, honour killings, to hate each other and non muslims with the passion they do, kept them in abject poverty and illiteracy, become the worlds greatest terrorist threat etc. etc.?

It's got nothing at all to do with anyone else, islam is the root cause of all their problems, they will never be any different until they have the courage to thoroughly question and purge the evil malevolence in their qur'an.

Stop making excuses and call for them to honestly take responsibility for their insane beliefs which have 100% put them at the bottom of the global societal scale.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 28th, 2019 at 6:05pm

Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:44am:
A hijab - any funny costume - does not in itself attract hostility.


Yeah it does - just read my sig.


Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:40am:
The sri Lankan jihadist was radicalised by muslims already in Australia.


evidence? This was an IS attack, and I'm pretty sure all Aussie born IS recruits were radicalised online by people outside Australia.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Dnarever on Apr 28th, 2019 at 7:36pm

cods wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:18am:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:04am:
.
If there were no threats to security

government would invent some

and they do




WHY?... which ones have they invented. ::)


Remember that the Howard government had Dr Haneef prosecuted just to test out their new terrorism legislation.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:52pm

Quote:
There you go with Islam = nazism again.


I can bump the thread if you'd like.


Quote:
Its getting old FD


Like a 1400 year Reich?


Quote:
and I have explained at length why the two are not comparable


I must have missed that. So you cannot even compare them?


Quote:
There are no "nice" nazis, as you have lamely tried to claim before.


Why are you so bigoted against Nazis? How can you say such mean things about people without them indicating individually that they are not nice?


Quote:
If you are a nazi, you are necessarily a racist and a promoter violence.


So this differs from Islam because Muslims do it without being racist?


Quote:
But I prefer to look at it this way: ban anyone who promotes hate, racism and violent discrimination


So, people who say things like tough titties, off with their heads?


Quote:
It no doubt would catch a lot of muslims


Can you suggest any it would not catch?


Quote:
See the problem is FD, when you talk about "freedom and democracy" you are only thinking about decent white non-muslims.


It is the opposite Gandalf. The strongest evidence for Islam being the greatest modern threat to freedom and demcoracy is what it has done to people in Muslim majority nations. As you like to point out, most of Islams victims are Muslims.


Quote:
You are singularly incapable of understanding that muslims in Australia already see their freedom being threatened.


Was it you who suggested we start closing their mosques?


Quote:
Didn't you notice we are not banning muslims yet?


Yes I noticed.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:32pm
Oh look FD with his trademark sentence by sentence reply.

Why bother with an actual considered, thought out response when you can just resort to mindless one liner zingers?

Very constructive... not.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm

cods wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:18am:

PZ547 wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 11:04am:
.
If there were no threats to security

government would invent some

and they do




WHY?... which ones have they invented. ::)


Why?

Fear and social control, dear.

Did you miss that unit at university?

And, which ones have they invented?

Well, Howard's "Children Overboard" and Trump's "Mexican Border Crisis" are two perfect examples.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:52pm:
It is the opposite Gandalf. The strongest evidence for Islam being the greatest modern threat to freedom and demcoracy is what it has done to people in Muslim majority nations. As you like to point out, most of Islams victims are Muslims.


I feel I need to point that out FD, because you continue to dehumanize all muslims, and lump them all in the same basket. You need reminding that many muslims are actually fighting for freedom and democracy in the name of Islam - and many of them die for their beliefs. Who knew - an Islam that stands up for freedom and democracy? Yet rather than support them (as you did pre 2007), you mock and ridicule them, and dismiss them as no different to the people that are attacking and killing them.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.



No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:03pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.



No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


Why do believe terrorists and neo-Nazis?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:01pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.



No he doesn't -
Fraser Anning is our saviour.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.



No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


Why do believe terrorists and neo-Nazis?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:36pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?



That wasn't a punch - just a couple of bitch slaps.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Redmond Neck on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?



That wasn't a punch - just a couple of bitch slaps.


Booby is into arse punching!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:46pm

Redmond Neck wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?



That wasn't a punch - just a couple of bitch slaps.


Bobby is into arse punching!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D




Red,
have you turned gay?
Just about all your comments have gay fantasies in them.
I suggest electro-aversion therapy.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:36pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?



That wasn't a punch - just a couple of bitch slaps.


It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by John Smith on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:45pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:46pm:
I suggest electro-aversion therapy.



did it work for you?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:44am:
A hijab - any funny costume - does not in itself attract hostility.


Yeah it does - just read my sig.


Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:40am:
The sri Lankan jihadist was radicalised by muslims already in Australia.


evidence? This was an IS attack, and I'm pretty sure all Aussie born IS recruits were radicalised online by people outside Australia.

1. 'in itself'. Hijab is the sign of jihad. Not innocent.

2. Get off Muslim Village as your source of what the world is like. Read the news the bomber was normal before he came to Oz. https://www.sbs.com.au/news/a-completely-changed-person-sri-lanka-bomber-radicalised-in-australia-friend-says



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:46pm:
I suggest electro-aversion therapy.



did it work for you?



Why would I need it?
I'm a real man - not a poof.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by .JaSin. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:52pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


No way! You don't know crap!
I'm dobbing on you Gandalf. FD's gonna come and fix you up - just you wait and see. Even Karnal is going to give it a go. Pakistan is an Ally of Australia - because they play Cricket.


Nazism was Anti-Jew, not Anti-Moslem. Nazi's made Allies with many Moslems and nations.

Fraser Anning is seeking the aid of those who are NOT Nazi, but '___________' against Moslems, not against Jews.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm

John Smith wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:46pm:
I suggest electro-aversion therapy.



did it work for you?



Lol   ;D

The answer to that is pretty obvious.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by .JaSin. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:02pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?


Maybe Bobby can catch Aussie's Taxi one day and go out Pinning Kids to Trees - together.  :D ;D
(Sorry Bobby, I couldn't resist!  :D)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:49pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?
Fraser Anning did not assault a child. Why do you continue to lie about this?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

No he did not.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by .JaSin. on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:56pm
The kid was a Teenager - that's still a kid.
He should have taken it like a Man and said something to make the kid ashamed of his action or made a fool of.
Fraser Anning lacked an intelligent response.

Even the Great Actor Christopher Plummer would have laughed that kid off with a Bravery Award for having the sense to attack with an Egg and not a Gun. ;)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 30th, 2019 at 3:12am

rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:50pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

No he did not.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.



Actually, under the Territories Children's Act, Anning endangered a child (young person) under the legislation.

The incident was definitely a mandatory report to the ACT CP authorities and would likely record Anning as a Person Of Interest, potentially preventing him passing a national Working With Children's Check.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:03am

rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?
Fraser Anning did not assault a child.


He did, actually.

"In Australia children and young people are those under the age of 18 (Australian Institute of Health and Welfare - AIHW, 2018).

"The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child also defines a child as any human under the age of 18 years (United Nations, 1989)."


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/what-child-abuse-and-neglect#footnote-001

Why do you continue to defend this violent neo-Nazi?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:03am

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Read the news the bomber was normal before he came to Oz.


Everyone who knew Tarrant swears he was lovely.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:11am

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?


To be fair Anning reacted reflexively to someone smacking him in the back of the head.

Thats not really the significant thing about that incident - the more disturbing thing was how his thug supporters jumped on him and wrestled him to the ground - when it was crystal clear it was nothing but a kid with an egg (ie no real threat to warrant such a reaction)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:35am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


With reasonable force.

The neo-Nazi used unreasonable force.

Why do you defend people who assault children?




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:56am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:03am:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Read the news the bomber was normal before he came to Oz.


Everyone who knew Tarrant swears he was lovely.




its always the way....wonder how he likes his new life?.......I am hoping they throw away the key....

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:50am

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:56am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:03am:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Read the news the bomber was normal before he came to Oz.


Everyone who knew Tarrant swears he was lovely.




its always the way....wonder how he likes his new life?.......I am hoping they throw away the key....


I'm fairly confident he'll never experience freedom again.

If the authorities don't throw away the key, someone inside will kill him.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:51am

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?


To be fair Anning reacted reflexively to someone smacking him in the back of the head.

Thats not really the significant thing about that incident - the more disturbing thing was how his thug supporters jumped on him and wrestled him to the ground - when it was crystal clear it was nothing but a kid with an egg (ie no real threat to warrant such a reaction)


And more disturbing still, is the fact that people like Bobby continue to defend him.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by xeej on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:59am
How would I go walking up behind Penny Wong and smashing her over the head with a rotten egg, eggboy should have been charged.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:24am

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?

What would poofy Greggy have done?
Hit him with his hand bag?




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:31am

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:24am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?


Make an omelette?

When life gives you lemons, grab Tequila & salt.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:47pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:52pm:
It is the opposite Gandalf. The strongest evidence for Islam being the greatest modern threat to freedom and demcoracy is what it has done to people in Muslim majority nations. As you like to point out, most of Islams victims are Muslims.


I feel I need to point that out FD, because you continue to dehumanize all muslims, and lump them all in the same basket. You need reminding that many muslims are actually fighting for freedom and democracy in the name of Islam - and many of them die for their beliefs. Who knew - an Islam that stands up for freedom and democracy? Yet rather than support them (as you did pre 2007), you mock and ridicule them, and dismiss them as no different to the people that are attacking and killing them.


Yes Gandalf I can appreciate the irony. If Hitler had won, do you think there would be any freedom-promoting Nazis yet?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:01pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:50am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:56am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:03am:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Read the news the bomber was normal before he came to Oz.


Everyone who knew Tarrant swears he was lovely.




its always the way....wonder how he likes his new life?.......I am hoping they throw away the key....


I'm fairly confident he'll never experience freedom again.

If the authorities don't throw away the key, someone inside will kill him.


That's a bit much, Greggery. He's needed here, shurely.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:03pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 2:01pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:50am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:56am:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:03am:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 7:06pm:
Read the news the bomber was normal before he came to Oz.


Everyone who knew Tarrant swears he was lovely.




its always the way....wonder how he likes his new life?.......I am hoping they throw away the key....


I'm fairly confident he'll never experience freedom again.

If the authorities don't throw away the key, someone inside will kill him.


That's a bit much, Greggery. He's needed here, shurely.


Maybe Valkie can get him out on parole.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:30pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.



That's the first I heard of that.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:32pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:03am:

rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?
Fraser Anning did not assault a child.


He did, actually.

"In Australia children and young people are those under the age of 18 (Australian Institute of Health and Welfare - AIHW, 2018).

"The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child also defines a child as any human under the age of 18 years (United Nations, 1989)."


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/what-child-abuse-and-neglect#footnote-001

Why do you continue to defend this violent neo-Nazi?
yes, that is the technical legal definition of a child as used in a court of law. But there is more than one definition of a child e.g.


Definition of child in English:
child
NOUN
1A young human being below the age of puberty or below the legal age of majority.
.


So I understand that calling this 17 year old a child suits your usual absurd semantic arguments. Just a point though, as you have previously stated to having sex with a 17 year old and justified this by stating she was over the age of 16 and the act was legal, do you really want to go down this track? Because if you do you know what my next question is going to be dont you?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.
You are 100 percent correct Bobby, its why no one has been charged. It is a perfectly reasonable response.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:38pm

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.



That's the first I heard of that.


Have you defended people who assault children in the past?

Or, is this your first time?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:03am:

rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?
Fraser Anning did not assault a child.


He did, actually.

"In Australia children and young people are those under the age of 18 (Australian Institute of Health and Welfare - AIHW, 2018).

"The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child also defines a child as any human under the age of 18 years (United Nations, 1989)."


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/what-child-abuse-and-neglect#footnote-001

Why do you continue to defend this violent neo-Nazi?
yes, that is the technical legal definition of a child as used in a court of law.


There you go then.

Apology accepted.

Now, is the the first time you've defended someone who assaulted a child?

I'm curious.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.



That's the first I heard of that.


Have you defended people who assault children in the past?

Or, is this your first time?
Not a child, as I have shown.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:42pm

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 8:30pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.



That's the first I heard of that.


Have you defended people who assault children in the past?

Or, is this your first time?
Not a child, as I have shown.


So, you've defended people who have assaulted adults?

Interesting.

Not surprising though.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:42pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:32pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:03am:

rhino wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:49pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 4:09pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 3:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:56pm:
I think we can all agree that Fraser Anning is right.


A far right neo-Nazi, yes.


No - he's not a Nazi  - he even said so.


You have to be a lot worse than even Anning to be a nazi/neo-nazi.

I believe the criteria for being a nazi requires both 1. a belief in racial superiority and 2. advocating actual violence to retain racial superiority.

Anning, to his credit, does not advocate violence, and therefore that alone disqualifies him as a nazi. He also doesn't directly advocate racial superiority - not openly anyway. Rather its just your bog standard white-victim narrative.

He does however actively court and seeks the support of actual nazis.


Did you see the video of him punching a child?
Fraser Anning did not assault a child.


He did, actually.

"In Australia children and young people are those under the age of 18 (Australian Institute of Health and Welfare - AIHW, 2018).

"The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child also defines a child as any human under the age of 18 years (United Nations, 1989)."


https://aifs.gov.au/cfca/publications/what-child-abuse-and-neglect#footnote-001

Why do you continue to defend this violent neo-Nazi?
yes, that is the technical legal definition of a child as used in a court of law.


There you go then.

Apology accepted.

Now, is the the first time you've defended someone who assaulted a child?

I'm curious.
Using your own definition ,when you had sex with the 17 year old was that the first time you had sex with a child?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:46pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.
why do you think its ok to have sex with a child, i reckon thats probably a more important question.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:50pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?
Why did you have sex with someone you consider a child? i think the forum is learning a little about you here.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:57pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?
well that would be slander as I have stated no such thing. You however have stated that
1. A 17 year old is a child
2. You have had sex with a 17 year old.
Why do you think it is ok to have sex with someone you consider a child. ? Simple question. 

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:11pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.
Why did you have sex with someone you consider a child? Was this forced sex? Was this anal sex as you so frequently boast about? I think you need to come clean on this.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:18pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.
The other thing I would like to point to any Moderator who may be viewing  this  thread, pecca is altering my posts to attempt to change context and appears to be trying to make it appear I am replying to another poster instead of him. . This is clearly a breach of the rules.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:20pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?


Are we talking twenty?

Have you assaulted twenty children?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1556008828/188#188 date=1556568747]What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?

[/quote]Why did you have sex with someone you consider a child? Was this forced sex? Was this anal sex as you so frequently boast about? I think you need to come clean on this. Why wont you answer this? Not looking good for you here, all you need is to refute your previous claims you had sex with a child.  I urge you to set the record straight.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:24pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?


Are we talking twenty?

Have you assaulted twenty children?


Thirty?

Really?

:-/

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:27pm

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1556008828/188#188 date=1556568747]What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?

[/quote]Why did you have sex with someone you consider a child? Was this forced sex? Was this anal sex as you so frequently boast about? I think you need to come clean on this. Why wont you answer this? Not looking good for you here, all you need is to refute your previous claims you had sex with a child.  I urge you to set the record straight.

too scared to answer? What do you have to reveal? I can arrange a meeting with the appropriate authorities if you wish to unburden yourself.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:28pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:24pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:20pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?


Are we talking twenty?

Have you assaulted twenty children?


Thirty?

Really?

:-/


Assaulting more than 30 children is pretty disturbing.

Don't you think?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:14pm
Just to summarise. Pecca states a 17 year old is a child.
He also states he has previously had sex with a 17 year old.
Has been asked to clarify this and hasnt.
Personally I dont consider a 17 year old a "child". Im interested though in other opinions so poll added. Please vote.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Rhino on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:16pm
Is a 17 year old a "child"?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 1st, 2019 at 12:26am

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 11:16pm:
Is a 17 year old a "child"?


16-17 year olds are known as young persons in the NSW Children's Act, Rhino. Oh to be 17 again.

We're all young at heart, no?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 1st, 2019 at 12:36am

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:18pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.
The other thing I would like to point to any Moderator who may be viewing  this  thread, pecca is altering my posts to attempt to change context and appears to be trying to make it appear I am replying to another poster instead of him. . This is clearly a breach of the rules.


That's dobbing, Rhino. I think you should answer Greggery's pertinent question. More than 30 children?

Oh, my. The greater the number, the worse it will be for you at any subsequent trials.

If you come clean here, Greggery might be able to help you get a lessor sentence.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2019 at 5:06am

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?

What would poofy Greggy have done?
Hit him with his hand bag?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2019 at 7:45am

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am:
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....



They are fair questions.
You want to judge others but you
won't say what you would have done.

forgiven
namaste

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bojack Horseman on May 1st, 2019 at 7:46am

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 5:06am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?

What would poofy Greggy have done?
Hit him with his hand bag?



Easy, I would have prevented it by making sure I didn't make any BS discriminatory comments like Fraser did.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on May 1st, 2019 at 8:24am

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:45am:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am:
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....



They are fair questions.
You want to judge others but you
won't say what you would have done.

forgiven
namaste




first I would have found out what the hell hit me......

in that split second  someone would have taken charge of the situation assuming I am a member of the Senate......as for greg   ask him yourself..

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2019 at 8:28am

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:45am:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am:
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....



They are fair questions.
You want to judge others but you
won't say what you would have done.

forgiven
namaste




first I would have found out what the hell hit me......

in that split second  someone would have taken charge of the situation assuming I am a member of the Senate......as for greg   ask him yourself..


I wouldn't hit a child.

I'd have laughed it off.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Gordon on May 1st, 2019 at 8:29am

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1556008828/188#188 date=1556568747]What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?

[/quote]Why did you have sex with someone you consider a child? Was this forced sex? Was this anal sex as you so frequently boast about? I think you need to come clean on this. Why wont you answer this? Not looking good for you here, all you need is to refute your previous claims you had sex with a child.  I urge you to set the record straight.


Interesting.

Greggy suggests the reason Bobby makes so many posts about homosexuals is because he's a closet homosexual.

What happens if we use this very same logic to question why every single day Greg posts about Donal Trump being a child rapist?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2019 at 8:30am

Gordon wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:29am:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 10:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:43pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:41pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:40pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:37pm:

rhino wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 9:34pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:58pm:
[quote author=bobbythebat1 link=1556008828/188#188 date=1556568747]What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.


Egg Boy received a fat lip that required medical treatment. This qualifies as an injury.

This is the more serious charge of assault causing bodily harm.
Who has been charged? And BTW , you are wrong.


You're correcting me of all people?
A fat lip would be a  minor injury and the charge (if any) would be common assault. Just ask me next time.


Assault of a child.

You condone that sort of thing, do you?


Do you think it's okay to assault a child?

A simple yes or no will suffice.


So ...  :-/

Or, let's go down another path.

Have you ever assaulted a child?


Seeing as you won't answer the question, is it safe to assume that you have assaulted a child?

Should we now ask, how many?


More than two, but less than ten?

I'm talking about the number of children, not their age.


More than ten?

[/quote]Why did you have sex with someone you consider a child? Was this forced sex? Was this anal sex as you so frequently boast about? I think you need to come clean on this. Why wont you answer this? Not looking good for you here, all you need is to refute your previous claims you had sex with a child.  I urge you to set the record straight.


Interesting.

Greggy suggests the reason Bobby makes so many posts about homosexuals is because he's a closet homosexual.

What happens if we use this very same logic to question why every single day Greg posts about Donal Trump being a child rapist?


Is Donald Trump a child rapist?


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 1st, 2019 at 8:43am

freediver wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:52pm:
It is the opposite Gandalf. The strongest evidence for Islam being the greatest modern threat to freedom and demcoracy is what it has done to people in Muslim majority nations. As you like to point out, most of Islams victims are Muslims.


I feel I need to point that out FD, because you continue to dehumanize all muslims, and lump them all in the same basket. You need reminding that many muslims are actually fighting for freedom and democracy in the name of Islam - and many of them die for their beliefs. Who knew - an Islam that stands up for freedom and democracy? Yet rather than support them (as you did pre 2007), you mock and ridicule them, and dismiss them as no different to the people that are attacking and killing them.


Yes Gandalf I can appreciate the irony. If Hitler had won, do you think there would be any freedom-promoting Nazis yet?


Probably, but thats not the point. The point is Nazism wasn't born specifically as a means of spiritual advancement through the worship of the one Abrahamic God. It didn't have as its most central pillars acts and behaviors specifically related to, and only to, personal spiritual fulfillment (prayer, alms giving, fasting, belief in oneness of God and pilgrimage - none of which has anything to do with hostility or violence towards other humans).

Rather it was pretty much restricted to adherence to a purely temporal, political doctrine of racial superiority and hatred towards inferior races.

If Nazism produced peace loving, non-prejudiced strains it would be in spite of its doctrine, whereas peace and goodwill - and freedom for that matter - is literally adhering directly to the core tenants of Islam. A point that the vast majority of muslims understand, and frequently die because of it.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2019 at 12:26pm

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:45am:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am:
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....



They are fair questions.
You want to judge others but you
won't say what you would have done.

forgiven
namaste




first I would have found out what the hell hit me......

in that split second  someone would have taken charge of the situation assuming I am a member of the Senate......as for greg   ask him yourself..


Nice side step Cods,
so you'd let others beat him up?
They would do your dirty work for you.

forgiven
namaste

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Oh, fck off you stupid bloody idiot. You and your idiotic 'yeah, but would you assault a child/non Mohammedans are the worst terrorist threat/I leave if Trump wins....' etc.

You are an insufferable frakin' bent retard.   Which is exactly what you enjoy being.  The eternal blind idiot across the ages.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2019 at 7:18pm

Mattyfisk wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:49pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:40pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 27th, 2019 at 6:36pm:
Bowl of skittles - 20% are poisonous and there is no way to tell them apart at entry. 


Therefore we must ban them all - to be safe.

Sorry Frank, its not an option.

The only acceptable solution is to get better at telling the dangerous ones from the safe ones. 



Tell us how to do that.   Go on.  They all share the koran and mohammed.  Where's the diff?

School us.


At least you've given up your mendacity about being somehow able to spot the difference between Whitey and his vanguard of White Supremacists.

Superior culture, innit.

I think anyone who takes Islam to heart and allows it to be the guide of his life is objectively short-changing himself intellectually, psychologically, emotionally. He chooses to be an underground, mouse man. He chooses to blocks light and fresh air from his life.




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 1st, 2019 at 7:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:44am:
A hijab - any funny costume - does not in itself attract hostility.


Yeah it does - just read my sig.


Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:40am:
The sri Lankan jihadist was radicalised by muslims already in Australia.


evidence? This was an IS attack, and I'm pretty sure all Aussie born IS recruits were radicalised online by people outside Australia.


Sri Lanka bans clothing covering the face
A week after Sri Lankan suicide bombers left more than 250 people dead, the reeling nation has banned all kinds of face clothing.




ISLAMOPHOBIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 1st, 2019 at 7:48pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 5:06am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?

What would poofy Greggy have done?
Hit him with his hand bag?


I would have taught that kid some manners, son.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on May 1st, 2019 at 7:55pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 5:06am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?

What would poofy Greggy have done?
Hit him with his hand bag?


I would have taught that kid some manners, son.

Karnal- Now you know that was wrong! Go and sit in the naughty corner for 5 minutes you bad boy!!! :-* :-* :-* :-*

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 1st, 2019 at 8:29pm

Mr Hammer wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:55pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:48pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 5:06am:

cods wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 7:57am:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 6:12am:
What a lot of rubbish,
egg boy didn't have a mark or a scratch on him
from anything that Fraser Anning did.
On the contrary - Anning had an egg smashed on his head.

That kid is lucky that Anning didn't knock him out.
Also - there is such a principle in law as a provoked attack.
You are allowed to fight back if you're attacked -
it's called self defense.




we are talking about an elected member of the senate.....and yes he did unlawfully touch that BOY...he lashed out instantly   egg boy was hit twice by anning and then his henchmen stepped in...

I dont agree for one moment with what the boy did....but anning didnt hesitate didnt even try to see what hit him    just instant lash out....

he btw is the grown up...he would know by now  where ever he goes he attract controversy..

did he assault the fan who attacked the photographer?... NO he didnt.....and that was even worse... the photographer was going to to the aid of a female.. >:( >:( >:(


Cods,
what would you have done if
that brat had smashed an egg on your head?

What would poofy Greggy have done?
Hit him with his hand bag?


I would have taught that kid some manners, son.

Karnal- Now you know that was wrong! Go and sit in the naughty corner for 5 minutes you bad boy!!! :-* :-* :-* :-*


How's your manners going there, Homo?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Oh, fck off you stupid bloody idiot. You and your idiotic 'yeah, but would you assault a child/non Mohammedans are the worst terrorist threat/I leave if Trump wins....' etc.

You are an insufferable frakin' bent retard.   Which is exactly what you enjoy being.  The eternal blind idiot across the ages.


Do you condone child abuse?

I'm curious.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by .JaSin. on May 1st, 2019 at 9:59pm
Child: 0 - 19 years of Age.

Teenagers are NOT 'young adults' as the Writing Industry like's to flatter in their pursuit for the $$ market in youth.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by cods on May 1st, 2019 at 11:13pm

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:26pm:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:45am:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am:
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....



They are fair questions.
You want to judge others but you
won't say what you would have done.

forgiven
namaste




first I would have found out what the hell hit me......

in that split second  someone would have taken charge of the situation assuming I am a member of the Senate......as for greg   ask him yourself..


Nice side step Cods,
so you'd let others beat him up?
They would do your dirty work for you.

forgiven
namaste



what a stupid thing to say..

he has minders dummy!   he knows hes a target...

and they dont beat people up... as you saw that boy was completely out numbered....and I believe unhurt..  he has apologised he knows it wasnt a smart thing to do...

the boy that is... nothing from the other pillock..

to think that man is on my voting ticket......the Anning Party what the hell are we coming too....

talk about ridiculous.....some people fall for anything..

between him and Palmer we are sitting ducks.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(... ones a thief the other a racist

good one Australia.. >:( >:(

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 1st, 2019 at 11:27pm

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 11:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 12:26pm:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:24am:

Bobby. wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:45am:

cods wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 7:29am:
bobby I cant even be bothered answering your stupid questions.....



They are fair questions.
You want to judge others but you
won't say what you would have done.

forgiven
namaste




first I would have found out what the hell hit me......

in that split second  someone would have taken charge of the situation assuming I am a member of the Senate......as for greg   ask him yourself..


Nice side step Cods,
so you'd let others beat him up?
They would do your dirty work for you.

forgiven
namaste



what a stupid thing to say..

he has minders dummy!   he knows hes a target...

and they dont beat people up... as you saw that boy was completely out numbered....and I believe unhurt..  he has apologised he knows it wasnt a smart thing to do...

the boy that is... nothing from the other pillock..

to think that man is on my voting ticket......the Anning Party what the hell are we coming too....

talk about ridiculous.....some people fall for anything..

between him and Palmer we are sitting ducks.. >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(... ones a thief the other a racist

good one Australia.. >:( >:(



And I have a feeling that Anning, Palmer and Pauline
will have a big say in the Senate.
People have lost trust with the 2 major parties.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 8:43am:

freediver wrote on Apr 30th, 2019 at 1:47pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 8:52pm:
It is the opposite Gandalf. The strongest evidence for Islam being the greatest modern threat to freedom and demcoracy is what it has done to people in Muslim majority nations. As you like to point out, most of Islams victims are Muslims.


I feel I need to point that out FD, because you continue to dehumanize all muslims, and lump them all in the same basket. You need reminding that many muslims are actually fighting for freedom and democracy in the name of Islam - and many of them die for their beliefs. Who knew - an Islam that stands up for freedom and democracy? Yet rather than support them (as you did pre 2007), you mock and ridicule them, and dismiss them as no different to the people that are attacking and killing them.


Yes Gandalf I can appreciate the irony. If Hitler had won, do you think there would be any freedom-promoting Nazis yet?


Probably, but thats not the point. The point is Nazism wasn't born specifically as a means of spiritual advancement through the worship of the one Abrahamic God. It didn't have as its most central pillars acts and behaviors specifically related to, and only to, personal spiritual fulfillment (prayer, alms giving, fasting, belief in oneness of God and pilgrimage - none of which has anything to do with hostility or violence towards other humans).

Rather it was pretty much restricted to adherence to a purely temporal, political doctrine of racial superiority and hatred towards inferior races.

If Nazism produced peace loving, non-prejudiced strains it would be in spite of its doctrine, whereas peace and goodwill - and freedom for that matter - is literally adhering directly to the core tenants of Islam. A point that the vast majority of muslims understand, and frequently die because of it.


So Islam differs from Nazism in that Islam also claims to be a religion?

Did Muhammad ever instruct his followers not to be friends with the infidel?

Can you explain how freedom adheres directly to the core tenet of Islam? Would you say that Muhammad was violating a core tenet of Islam in his use of slavery?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
So Islam differs from Nazism in that Islam also claims to be a religion?


Seems I need to dumb it down even more. Try this then:

- The core tenets (exemplified by the 5 pillars) of Islam are entirely about a personal journey of submission to God - through prayer, belief in oneness of God, fasting, alms giving and pilgrimage

- the core tenets of Nazism are entirely about emphasising one people's superiority over others and using violence to assert that superiority.

put even more simply - Islam is at its core entirely spiritual and personal, whereas Nazism at its core is entirely political and temporal


freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
Can you explain how freedom adheres directly to the core tenet of Islam?


You can't reach true spiritual harmony (submission) if you are bothered by petty differences and squabbles with other humans. And if you are not bothered by these temporal matters, then you are by default accepting of the idea of 'each to his own', and the right of any individual to live how they like, provided they are not interfering with other's rights to the same.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 2nd, 2019 at 3:55pm
Hatred for the sake of Allah and love for the sake of Allah is called Al Walaa wa al Baraa, a fundamental principle of Islamic ethics and Sharia. A Muslim is to hate what Allah hates and love what Allah loves. Allah hates the Kafir, therefore, a Muslim is to act accordingly.

3:110. You [true believers in Islamic Monotheism, and real followers of Prophet Muhammad and his Sunnah (legal ways, etc.)] are the best of peoples ever raised up for mankind: you enjoin Al-Ma'ruf (i.e. Islamic Monotheism and all that Islam has ordained) and forbid Al-Munkar (polytheism, disbelief and all that Islam has forbidden), and you believe in Allah. And had the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) believed, it would have been better for them; among them are some who have faith, but most of them are Al-Fasiqun (disobedient to Allah - and rebellious against Allah's Command).

98:6. Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islam, the Qur'an and Prophet Muhammad ) from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrikun will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures.

8:55. Verily, The worst of moving (living) creatures before Allah are those who disbelieve , - so they shall not believe.

30:45. That He may reward those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), and do righteous good deeds, out of His Bounty. Verily, He likes not the disbelievers.

2:98. "Whoever is an enemy to Allah, His Angels, His Messengers, Jibrael (Gabriel) and Mikael (Michael), then verily, Allah is an enemy to the disbelievers."

40:35. Those who dispute about the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah, without any authority that has come to them, it is greatly hateful and disgusting to Allah and to those who believe. Thus does Allah seal up the heart of every arrogant, tyrant. (So they cannot guide themselves to the Right Path).

A mere 1/2 dozen of the many verses which promote hatred of the non believer.

Yet the lying muzzies still try and tell us that islam is about love for all mankind.

The qur'an is a muslim supremacist book which urges hatred of the non-believer.

Look at the state of the muslim world today.

One the one hand you have the islamists who follow the literal qur'an exactly as it says, they are the jihadists who believe that they will rape torture and slaughter their way to an islamic caliphate on this earth.

Then we have the backsliding *moderates* who know that the barbaric degenerate ideology of the qur'an has no place in the 21st century.

You would think that these *moderates* would speak up about the many and varied verses of evil which give rise to the fundamentalist muslims atrocities committed against the ones allah hates.

But no they say nothing except to lie and tell us the qur'an has a different meaning, has been misinterpreted and misunderstood by the islamists.

So they slaughter the fundamentalists, the fundamentalists then in turn slaughter the backsliding *moderates*.

So it goes on, a never ending muslim on muslim war,their heartlands are nothing but piles of rubble, muslims are the worlds refugees, muslim children are killed in their tens of thousands from starvation and refugee trauma caused by the ceaseless muslim on muslim warfare.

How sick and sad is the fact that this could be stopped by muslims accepting responsibility for the malevolence and depravity in the qur'an and denouncing it.

The islamists want the warfare because this is what the qur'an tells them, the *moderates* want the warfare also, as they know that if they denounced the evil in the qur'an this would destroy islam.

So it goes on untill the world finally decides that enough is enough and calls on muslims to be responsible for the evil in their qur'an. 

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:04pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
So Islam differs from Nazism in that Islam also claims to be a religion?


Seems I need to dumb it down even more. Try this then:

- The core tenets (exemplified by the 5 pillars) of Islam are entirely about a personal journey of submission to God - through prayer, belief in oneness of God, fasting, alms giving and pilgrimage

- the core tenets of Nazism are entirely about emphasising one people's superiority over others and using violence to assert that superiority.

put even more simply - Islam is at its core entirely spiritual and personal, whereas Nazism at its core is entirely political and temporal


freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
Can you explain how freedom adheres directly to the core tenet of Islam?


You can't reach true spiritual harmony (submission) if you are bothered by petty differences and squabbles with other humans. And if you are not bothered by these temporal matters, then you are by default accepting of the idea of 'each to his own', and the right of any individual to live how they like, provided they are not interfering with other's rights to the same.


Who told you what the core tenets of Nazism are?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:39pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
put even more simply - Islam is at its core entirely spiritual and personal, whereas Nazism at its core is entirely political and temporal

[quote author=freediver link=1556008828/254#254 date=1556764214]Can you explain how freedom adheres directly to the core tenet of Islam?


You can't reach true spiritual harmony (submission) if you are bothered by petty differences and squabbles with other humans. And if you are not bothered by these temporal matters, then you are by default accepting of the idea of 'each to his own', and the right of any individual to live how they like, provided they are not interfering with other's rights to the same.



That is such a load of taqiya.

NOWHERE in the Islamic world can ANYONE hope to be left alone and not be bothered on account his temporal differences. Muslims are murdering people for the slightest difference in 'temporal matters'.

That you have the hide, the unbelievable hide, to come out with this load of barefaced lies and subterfuge is par for the course, nothing less could be expected from a jihadist of Mohammedan/Stalinist propaganda.   They teach you to splash about eyewash in the Madrassa, I am convinced.  All Muslims do it, and  it's ll equally stupid and unbelievable. Who' your Goebbels? Tell him we are onto him.i



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:51pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Oh, fck off you stupid bloody idiot. You and your idiotic 'yeah, but would you assault a child/non Mohammedans are the worst terrorist threat/I leave if Trump wins....' etc.

You are an insufferable frakin' bent retard.   Which is exactly what you enjoy being.  The eternal blind idiot across the ages.


Do you condone child abuse?

I'm curious.



A 17 year old is not a child, Turd. Are you in favour of allowing 17 year olds to assault other people and then claim to be 'children'?

You are the worst kind of idiot, Turd - you think you are clever when in fact you are only slightly less stupid than Aussie or Nemo or the other godforsaken mongs scattered around here. It is sad but it is them you feel superior to.
Yet you are still an idiot, you are still out of your depth in any topic above, say, year 10. You are a heckler but could never justify any of your 'non-binding' positions. You and karnal, the Turd and the turd-eater.






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:55pm

polite_gandalf wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 6:05pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:44am:
A hijab - any funny costume - does not in itself attract hostility.


Yeah it does - just read my sig.


Frank wrote on Apr 28th, 2019 at 10:40am:
The sri Lankan jihadist was radicalised by muslims already in Australia.


evidence? This was an IS attack, and I'm pretty sure all Aussie born IS recruits were radicalised online by people outside Australia.


'A completely changed person': Sri Lanka bomber radicalised in Australia, friend says

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/a-completely-changed-person-sri-lanka-bomber-radicalised-in-australia-friend-says


https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/imams-act-to-stop-radicalisation-as-terror-plotters-swinburne-link-revealed-20190430-p51ih1.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/27/easter-sunday-bomber-radicalised-in-australia-sri-lanka-pm-suggests


You always arse-cover AFTER the murderous outrage. Predictable as.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:58pm

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Oh, fck off you stupid bloody idiot. You and your idiotic 'yeah, but would you assault a child/non Mohammedans are the worst terrorist threat/I leave if Trump wins....' etc.

You are an insufferable frakin' bent retard.   Which is exactly what you enjoy being.  The eternal blind idiot across the ages.


Do you condone child abuse?

I'm curious.



A 17 year old is not a child, Turd.


"Children: Persons under the age of 18 years."

https://www.kidsguardian.nsw.gov.au/child-safe-organisations/working-with-children-check/definitions

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:05pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:58pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Oh, fck off you stupid bloody idiot. You and your idiotic 'yeah, but would you assault a child/non Mohammedans are the worst terrorist threat/I leave if Trump wins....' etc.

You are an insufferable frakin' bent retard.   Which is exactly what you enjoy being.  The eternal blind idiot across the ages.


Do you condone child abuse?

I'm curious.



A 17 year old is not a child, Turd.


"Children: Persons under the age of 18 years."

https://www.kidsguardian.nsw.gov.au/child-safe-organisations/working-with-children-check/definitions


"In Australia children and young people are those under the age of 18 (AIHW, 2018).

"The United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child also defines a child as any human under the age of 18 years (United Nations, 1989)."

What is child abuse and neglect?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, right?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children' and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.


The thing about your kind of stupidity is that the concept of 'consistency' is not within your grasp. Bobbing and writhing in the S-bend is about the best description of your intellectual position on anything.




Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary. If you had a 17 year old offsrpng you'd know that they are not children.  Stop trying to be even more tendentiously stupid than you actually are, turd.  Always honing in on the 'yeah, but' angle just makes you a perennial vicky pollard.






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:24am

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:51pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Frank wrote on May 1st, 2019 at 6:59pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Frank wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 9:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 8:56pm:

Bobby. wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 6:30pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 29th, 2019 at 5:49pm:
It was violence, against a child.

Anning is a violent neo-Nazi.




That little brat would have been knocked out
if he egged me.
Fraser Anning was very reserved.


Have you physically assaulted children in the past?

:D :D :D 'children', says the 14 year old turd.


Anning assaulted a child.

That's a simple, irrefutable fact.

Now Bobby is saying that he would have assaulted that child too.

What about you - would you assault a child?

Oh, fck off you stupid bloody idiot. You and your idiotic 'yeah, but would you assault a child/non Mohammedans are the worst terrorist threat/I leave if Trump wins....' etc.

You are an insufferable frakin' bent retard.   Which is exactly what you enjoy being.  The eternal blind idiot across the ages.


Do you condone child abuse?

I'm curious.



A 17 year old is not a child, Turd. Are you in favour of allowing 17 year olds to assault other people and then claim to be 'children'?

You are the worst kind of idiot, Turd - you think you are clever when in fact you are only slightly less stupid than Aussie or Nemo or the other godforsaken mongs scattered around here. It is sad but it is them you feel superior to.
Yet you are still an idiot, you are still out of your depth in any topic above, say, year 10. You are a heckler but could never justify any of your 'non-binding' positions. You and karnal, the Turd and the turd-eater.






I say, old boy, I've been waiting here for over an hour and not one of your waiters has offered me any stool.

If you don't mind me saying, they seem more interested in Greggery's rectum.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 3rd, 2019 at 12:06pm

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Muslims are murdering people for the slightest difference in 'temporal matters'.


Agreed, and its wrong. Most aren't though.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 3rd, 2019 at 12:10pm

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
So Islam differs from Nazism in that Islam also claims to be a religion?


Seems I need to dumb it down even more. Try this then:

- The core tenets (exemplified by the 5 pillars) of Islam are entirely about a personal journey of submission to God - through prayer, belief in oneness of God, fasting, alms giving and pilgrimage

- the core tenets of Nazism are entirely about emphasising one people's superiority over others and using violence to assert that superiority.

put even more simply - Islam is at its core entirely spiritual and personal, whereas Nazism at its core is entirely political and temporal


freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
Can you explain how freedom adheres directly to the core tenet of Islam?


You can't reach true spiritual harmony (submission) if you are bothered by petty differences and squabbles with other humans. And if you are not bothered by these temporal matters, then you are by default accepting of the idea of 'each to his own', and the right of any individual to live how they like, provided they are not interfering with other's rights to the same.


Who told you what the core tenets of Nazism are?


OK, lets try the FD method of debating then...

have you ever met a nazi who isn't reflexively supportive of a racial supremacist ideology of hate and furthermore advocates violence to this end?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:04pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?


Speed is not personhood, Turd.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 12:06pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Muslims are murdering people for the slightest difference in 'temporal matters'.


Agreed, and its wrong. Most aren't though.



That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).

You are trying to tell us that Islam is nothing to worry about because most of its adherents are utter cowards and backsliders who avoid adhering to Islam's doctrines.  Come the caliphate, they will all switch, just like *that*, to fervent adherence.  Islam is a DEMONSTRATIVE religion. It has no heart.  Go through the motions, grow a silly beard, cover your hair and face, do the recitals and you are OK. What you ACTUALLY believe, what is in your heart - nobody cares.

APPEAR - that's all there is to it, DEMONSTRATE Submission.   Islam - might as well put a bone through your noses. It's that silly and atavistic and backward.  Show us a single Islamic doctrine that is new and is an improvement on Christianity or Judaism.  Just one.  You can't because there isn't one.  Islam is a hissy fit and a con, perpetrated by a priapic warlord, to rally his conquering troops. As a religion, it's empty.ii

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:32pm

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?


Speed is not personhood, Turd.


Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Let me know how you go in your attempt to have the starting age changed to eight.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?


Speed is not personhood, Turd.


Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.

Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times.  In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.


Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight.   You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.







Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:52pm

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?


Speed is not personhood, Turd.


Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.


Not in the US ...


US Legal: https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/adult/

"An adult is a person who has attained the age of majority. The age of majority is the legally defined age at which a person is considered an adult, with all the attendant rights and responsibilities of adulthood.

"The age of majority is defined by state laws, which vary by state, but is 18 in most states."



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?


Speed is not personhood, Turd.


Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.


Not in the US ...


US Legal: https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/adult/

"An adult is a person who has attained the age of majority. The age of majority is the legally defined age at which a person is considered an adult, with all the attendant rights and responsibilities of adulthood.

"The age of majority is defined by state laws, which vary by state, but is 18 in most states."

You stupid turd - most is NOT all.  Arbitrary is correct. Idiotic Turd is correct. Lying bastard idiotic dishonest despicable dam Turd is correct.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 3rd, 2019 at 9:00pm

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:32pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:04pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:41pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:31pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:25pm:

Frank wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 8:24pm:
So no lowering the voting age to 16 include 'children', then, tight?

Because people between 16-18 are still 'children and so they cannot be given the responsibility afforded to adults.



Why not?

Children are allowed to drive.

Why not 14? 8?

12?





18 is arbitrary.


Most things in law are arbitrary.

Why is 100km per hour the maximum speed limit, for example?

If you have a problem with the law, I suggest you take it up with your local member.

Perhaps you can ask them to have the age of adulthood lowered to 8, as you have suggested.

Let me know how that works out for you, yeah?


Speed is not personhood, Turd.


Indeed.

18 and above is adulthood.


Not in the US ...


US Legal: https://definitions.uslegal.com/a/adult/

"An adult is a person who has attained the age of majority. The age of majority is the legally defined age at which a person is considered an adult, with all the attendant rights and responsibilities of adulthood.

"The age of majority is defined by state laws, which vary by state, but is 18 in most states."


It's like shooting fish in a barrel, with Frank.

Really stupid fish   ;D

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Dnarever on May 3rd, 2019 at 10:20pm

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:
Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times.  In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.


Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight.   You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.



Quote:
Not in the US,


You cannot reasonably consider a place stupid enough to elect Donald Trump as a fit example for anything.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2019 at 11:50am

Dnarever wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 10:20pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:
Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times.  In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.


Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight.   You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.



Quote:
Not in the US,


You cannot reasonably consider a place stupid enough to elect Donald Trump as a fit example for anything.



It is state legislation that sets the age limit for alcohol purchase at 21.

You are always in a rush to parade your grinning stupidity..

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 4th, 2019 at 1:19pm

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


How are the Muslims going at eliminating "heretics or apostates," Soren?   The Sunni see the Sh'ite as heretics or apostates.  The Sh'ites see the Sunnis as heretics and apostates, yet they continue to both exist, despite the best efforts of each other to eliminate one another.  The various other Islamic sects are perceived by both the Sunnis and Sh'ites as heretics, yet they continue to exist.   Doesn't look they're doing a great job there, now does it?   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 4th, 2019 at 2:35pm
Meanwhile as the leftards and *moderates* slither around with all their excuses, muslims are:

The greatest global terrorist threat in 2019.

The worlds' refugee problem in 2019.

Murder their children in the tens of thousands with starvation and refugee trauma from their incessant muslim on muslim violence.

There is only one answer to all this:

muslims must take responsibility for and purge the evil in the qur'an which causes and motivates the above.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by greggerypeccary on May 4th, 2019 at 2:40pm

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:50am:

Dnarever wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 10:20pm:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:47pm:
Not in the US, not in many other jurisdictions and times.  In Ancient Greece you were not fully gown up until you turned 40.

18 is arbitrary. Adulthood - maturity - in not a number.


Smacking a 17 year old is often the only sensible action. If YOU were 17 and I came face to face with you and you gave me this sort of bloody nonsensical lip, i would clip you around the ears pretty hard to set you straight.   You'd thank me when you actually did grow up.

Go on, do the outraged Turd routine, you stinker.



Quote:
Not in the US,


You cannot reasonably consider a place stupid enough to elect Donald Trump as a fit example for anything.



It is state legislation that sets the age limit for alcohol purchase at 21.

You are always in a rush to parade your grinning stupidity..


Here sure is.

Like I said, it's like shooting (really stupid) fish in a barrel.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


How are the Muslims going at eliminating "heretics or apostates," Soren?   The Sunni see the Sh'ite as heretics or apostates.  The Sh'ites see the Sunnis as heretics and apostates, yet they continue to both exist, despite the best efforts of each other to eliminate one another.  The various other Islamic sects are perceived by both the Sunnis and Sh'ites as heretics, yet they continue to exist.   Doesn't look they're doing a great job there, now does it?   ::)

You miss the point completely, as you always do.

IF.  Do you see that little word? Right at the beginning of third sentence. 


The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans.  That's  why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 4th, 2019 at 4:08pm

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


How are the Muslims going at eliminating "heretics or apostates," Soren?   The Sunni see the Sh'ite as heretics or apostates.  The Sh'ites see the Sunnis as heretics and apostates, yet they continue to both exist, despite the best efforts of each other to eliminate one another.  The various other Islamic sects are perceived by both the Sunnis and Sh'ites as heretics, yet they continue to exist.   Doesn't look they're doing a great job there, now does it?   ::)

You miss the point completely, as you always do.

IF.  Do you see that little word? Right at the beginning of third sentence. 


"If" is a conditional word, Soren.  I asked a conditional question.  You have refused to answer - as usual - why?  Would an honest answer destroy your claims?  Yes, I believe so.


Quote:
The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans.  That's  why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.


I'm sure that will be news to the other 1.6 billion Muslims who are not Islamists.  "Jihadis" is a made up Western word which does not exist in Arabic, you realise?  "Mujahedin" is the correct word but of course, then you'd be slighting the Afghan resistence fighters against the Russians, now wouldn't you?  Tell me, do you see them as good Muslims?    ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2019 at 7:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 4:08pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 1:19pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


How are the Muslims going at eliminating "heretics or apostates," Soren?   The Sunni see the Sh'ite as heretics or apostates.  The Sh'ites see the Sunnis as heretics and apostates, yet they continue to both exist, despite the best efforts of each other to eliminate one another.  The various other Islamic sects are perceived by both the Sunnis and Sh'ites as heretics, yet they continue to exist.   Doesn't look they're doing a great job there, now does it?   ::)

You miss the point completely, as you always do.

IF.  Do you see that little word? Right at the beginning of third sentence. 


"If" is a conditional word, Soren.  I asked a conditional question.  You have refused to answer - as usual - why?  Would an honest answer destroy your claims?  Yes, I believe so.



Because you missed my point, as you miss the point all the time, Bwian. I pointed out how idiotic your question was because it was premised on IGNORING my IF. 

But now, as the lost bleating ewe on the foggy hilltop that you are, you are bleating for an answer to your half-witted 'yeah-but-what-about-my-question' idiocy as if it was your lost little lamb.
We see this stupidity from you in response to whatever the topic is. I think gandalf and the bugger karnal taught this blatant idiocy to you, they are fond of deploying it as much as you are. Or perhaps its innately yours and they are imitating you. Or most probably it's common to all dishonest and stupid people.

Either way, you ARE stupid, Bwian, don't try to deflect. Well, try, of course, you will. But we see you, Bwian, we do see just how stupid you are.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 4th, 2019 at 7:46pm

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Because you missed my point, as you miss the point all the time, Bwian. I pointed out how idiotic your question was because it was premised on IGNORING my IF. 


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I made my answer quite clear to your point.  Aren't you happy with it?  Is that why you ignored the rest of my questions?   Here they are again, Soren:


Quote:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans.  That's  why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.


I'm sure that will be news to the other 1.6 billion Muslims who are not Islamists.  "Jihadis" is a made up Western word which does not exist in Arabic, you realise?  "Mujahedin" is the correct word but of course, then you'd be slighting the Afghan resistence fighters against the Russians, now wouldn't you?  Tell me, do you see them as good Muslims?    ::)



Quote:
But now, as the lost bleating ewe on the foggy hilltop that you are, you are bleating for an answer to your half-witted 'yeah-but-what-about-my-question' idiocy as if it was your lost little lamb.
We see this stupidity from you in response to whatever the topic is. I think gandalf and the bugger karnal taught this blatant idiocy to you, they are fond of deploying it as much as you are. Or perhaps its innately yours and they are imitating you. Or most probably it's common to all dishonest and stupid people.

Either way, you ARE stupid, Bwian, don't try to deflect. Well, try, of course, you will. But we see you, Bwian, we do see just how stupid you are.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  As per usual, you reach into your mud patch to find some more ad hominem insults.  I really do not understand why you bother.  It simply proves your status as  WOFTAM, little man.  Time for you to trot off to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2019 at 9:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Because you missed my point, as you miss the point all the time, Bwian. I pointed out how idiotic your question was because it was premised on IGNORING my IF. 


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I made my answer quite clear to your point.  Aren't you happy with it?  Is that why you ignored the rest of my questions?   Here they are again, Soren:


Quote:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans.  That's  why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.


I'm sure that will be news to the other 1.6 billion Muslims who are not Islamists.  "Jihadis" is a made up Western word which does not exist in Arabic, you realise?  "Mujahedin" is the correct word but of course, then you'd be slighting the Afghan resistence fighters against the Russians, now wouldn't you?  Tell me, do you see them as good Muslims?    ::)


[quote]
But now, as the lost bleating ewe on the foggy hilltop that you are, you are bleating for an answer to your half-witted 'yeah-but-what-about-my-question' idiocy as if it was your lost little lamb.
We see this stupidity from you in response to whatever the topic is. I think gandalf and the bugger karnal taught this blatant idiocy to you, they are fond of deploying it as much as you are. Or perhaps its innately yours and they are imitating you. Or most probably it's common to all dishonest and stupid people.

Either way, you ARE stupid, Bwian, don't try to deflect. Well, try, of course, you will. But we see you, Bwian, we do see just how stupid you are.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  As per usual, you reach into your mud patch to find some more ad hominem insults.  I really do not understand why you bother.  It simply proves your status as  WOFTAM, little man.  Time for you to trot off to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)[/quote]
:D :D :D :D

Mail order 'doktor of wank' (second class, $10) and Arabist philologist. That's our Bwian.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 4th, 2019 at 9:21pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=js799tK4Ds0

These views MUST be heard in Parliament.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 6th, 2019 at 10:25am

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


I'll take that as a 'no' then - in the form of 'never ever'.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 6th, 2019 at 5:32pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


I'll take that as a 'no' then - in the form of 'never ever'.


If you debate religious terrorism you have to examine the doctrine which drives the terrorists (in this case islamic terrorism)

The jihadists all claim and cite the doctrine that motivates them.

An examination of the qur'an shows that their claims are true, the qur'an urges muslims to be jihadists against the non believer.

So who says the islamists are right?

the qur'an says so!!

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 6th, 2019 at 5:35pm

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Because you missed my point, as you miss the point all the time, Bwian. I pointed out how idiotic your question was because it was premised on IGNORING my IF. 


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I made my answer quite clear to your point.  Aren't you happy with it?  Is that why you ignored the rest of my questions?   Here they are again, Soren:


Quote:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans.  That's  why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.


I'm sure that will be news to the other 1.6 billion Muslims who are not Islamists.  "Jihadis" is a made up Western word which does not exist in Arabic, you realise?  "Mujahedin" is the correct word but of course, then you'd be slighting the Afghan resistence fighters against the Russians, now wouldn't you?  Tell me, do you see them as good Muslims?    ::)


[quote]
But now, as the lost bleating ewe on the foggy hilltop that you are, you are bleating for an answer to your half-witted 'yeah-but-what-about-my-question' idiocy as if it was your lost little lamb.
We see this stupidity from you in response to whatever the topic is. I think gandalf and the bugger karnal taught this blatant idiocy to you, they are fond of deploying it as much as you are. Or perhaps its innately yours and they are imitating you. Or most probably it's common to all dishonest and stupid people.

Either way, you ARE stupid, Bwian, don't try to deflect. Well, try, of course, you will. But we see you, Bwian, we do see just how stupid you are.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  As per usual, you reach into your mud patch to find some more ad hominem insults.  I really do not understand why you bother.  It simply proves your status as  WOFTAM, little man.  Time for you to trot off to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)

:D :D :D :D

Mail order 'doktor of wank' (second class, $10) and Arabist philologist. That's our Bwian.
[/quote]



Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  As per usual, you reach into your mud patch to find some more ad hominem insults.  I really do not understand why you bother.  It simply proves your status as  WOFTAM, little man.  Time for you to trot off to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)[

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2019 at 6:26pm
Have a look at Fraser Anning's how to vote advice for the Senate:

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5c6e4286e4afe92de294eb8c/t/5cc9265ad90fb2000164a73a/1556686435296/VIC+Senate.png

How to vote in each state:
https://www.conservativenationalparty.org/

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 6th, 2019 at 7:06pm

Vote to stop Muslim and Sudanese immigration - LOL.
Only Fraser Anning would say that.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Secret Wars on May 7th, 2019 at 10:26am
Sri Lanka is expelling 200 Muslim “clerics” for visa overstating.

Good on them, at least they can connect dots.

Try that here even against that background and the forum cretins would ignore the hundreds of body parts and have a great old time impressing each other with how woke they are by shouting islamaphobe.  ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 7th, 2019 at 10:27am

Secret Wars wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:26am:
Sri Lanka is expelling 200 Muslim “clerics” for visa overstating.

Good on them, at least they can connect dots.

Try that here even against that background and the forum cretins would ignore the hundreds of body parts and have a great old time impressing each other with how woke they are by shouting islamaphobe.  ::)


Oh, I know. Deporting visa overstayers.

As if we'd ever do that.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Secret Wars on May 7th, 2019 at 10:31am



Brian Ross wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 5:35pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:17pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:46pm:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 7:02pm:
Because you missed my point, as you miss the point all the time, Bwian. I pointed out how idiotic your question was because it was premised on IGNORING my IF. 


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I made my answer quite clear to your point.  Aren't you happy with it?  Is that why you ignored the rest of my questions?   Here they are again, Soren:


Quote:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 3:21pm:
The jihadis are NOT heretics, they are the true and orthodox Mohammedans.  That's  why they, only they, set the agenda for Islam.


I'm sure that will be news to the other 1.6 billion Muslims who are not Islamists.  "Jihadis" is a made up Western word which does not exist in Arabic, you realise?  "Mujahedin" is the correct word but of course, then you'd be slighting the Afghan resistence fighters against the Russians, now wouldn't you?  Tell me, do you see them as good Muslims?    ::)


[quote]
But now, as the lost bleating ewe on the foggy hilltop that you are, you are bleating for an answer to your half-witted 'yeah-but-what-about-my-question' idiocy as if it was your lost little lamb.
We see this stupidity from you in response to whatever the topic is. I think gandalf and the bugger karnal taught this blatant idiocy to you, they are fond of deploying it as much as you are. Or perhaps its innately yours and they are imitating you. Or most probably it's common to all dishonest and stupid people.

Either way, you ARE stupid, Bwian, don't try to deflect. Well, try, of course, you will. But we see you, Bwian, we do see just how stupid you are.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  As per usual, you reach into your mud patch to find some more ad hominem insults.  I really do not understand why you bother.  It simply proves your status as  WOFTAM, little man.  Time for you to trot off to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)

:D :D :D :D

Mail order 'doktor of wank' (second class, $10) and Arabist philologist. That's our Bwian.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  As per usual, you reach into your mud patch to find some more ad hominem insults.  I really do not understand why you bother.  It simply proves your status as  WOFTAM, little man.  Time for you to trot off to your little kiddies' playground.   ::)[/quote]

Hehehe, Brian the apologist dick. Muhammad doing his jihadi video and calling himself a jihadist just before going out to dismember some unbelievers and the best Brian can do is to tell ‘im he’s doing it wrong and that he’s not reeeeaalllly a jihadist.

Suppose the stupidity works for Brian, cos before the attack Brian will be pontificating that he wasn’t actually jihadist and after the attack Brian will be eye rolling that he isn’t reeeeally a Muslim.

Either way, nuffin to do wiv nuffin.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by xeej on May 7th, 2019 at 10:35am
After all the racist islamophobe white supremacist attacks, the petitions to have him banned from parliament, Penny Wongs ranting and raving on the floor of parliament (is she made in Taiwan?), eggboys assault and his crowd funding to jail him plus the entire media and almost every politicians attempt to take him down he survives easily and comes out with the slogan: VOTE TO STOP MUSLIM AND SUDANISE IMMIGRATION.
hehehe.


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Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Secret Wars on May 7th, 2019 at 10:44am

Mattyfisk wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:27am:

Secret Wars wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:26am:
Sri Lanka is expelling 200 Muslim “clerics” for visa overstating.

Good on them, at least they can connect dots.

Try that here even against that background and the forum cretins would ignore the hundreds of body parts and have a great old time impressing each other with how woke they are by shouting islamaphobe.  ::)


Oh, I know. Deporting visa overstayers.

As if we'd ever do that.


Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be leading the cretin cheer squad shouting islamaphobia if in the aftermath of an Islamic body part extravaganza the government elected to eject Muslim cleric overstayers.

You would be the first standing on body parts and virtue signalling how woke you are.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 7th, 2019 at 6:54pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


I'll take that as a 'no' then - in the form of 'never ever'.

Very sly but no cigar.

You have never once shown us where the jihadis are not impeccably orthodox. You always only ever give the bromide about vast majority, tiny minority and their feelings.

(Shame and pride, respectively)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 7th, 2019 at 7:28pm

Frank wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 6:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


I'll take that as a 'no' then - in the form of 'never ever'.

Very sly but no cigar.

You have never once shown us where the jihadis are not impeccably orthodox. You always only ever give the bromide about vast majority, tiny minority and their feelings.

(Shame and pride, respectively)


Its not sly asking for an honest and straight answer for once Frank.

Have another go if you like - on what logic do you judge a tiny minority of a group who are universally rejected by the majority, as "impeccably orthodox"?

Do you assess other groups in this way, or is just muslims?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 7th, 2019 at 8:45pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 7:28pm:

Frank wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 6:54pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 6th, 2019 at 10:25am:

Frank wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 11:54am:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 4th, 2019 at 9:01am:

Frank wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 8:19pm:
That's the rub.  The murderers are Islamically impeccable.  Therefore the non-murderers are Islamically doctrinal backsliders and cowards (semi- apostates).


Can you at least for once just give me some semblence of logic for why this is the case - rather than inanely parroting it ad nauseum? You too moses, if you are reading.

How many other groups do you judge as being perfectly exemplified by a tiny minority who are universally rejected by the majority?

The jihadis are the orthodox Muslims. They adhere to the Koran and Mohammed's  example most keenly and conscienciously. 

If they were heretics or apostates they would have been eliminated long ago by the supposed 'vast majority of true Muslims'.


I'll take that as a 'no' then - in the form of 'never ever'.

Very sly but no cigar.

You have never once shown us where the jihadis are not impeccably orthodox. You always only ever give the bromide about vast majority, tiny minority and their feelings.

(Shame and pride, respectively)


Its not sly asking for an honest and straight answer for once Frank.

Have another go if you like - on what logic do you judge a tiny minority of a group who are universally rejected by the majority, as "impeccably orthodox"?

Do you assess other groups in this way, or is just muslims?



They are not universally rejected.   The 'vast majority' is very sly and hedging.  The jihadis are never shown to be ideologically unIslamic. There is no concerted effort to ostracise them, to show that they are Koranically or otherwise incorrect, etc.

Because they aren't. On the contrary - Islamic jihad is world-wide and they are everywhere part of local Muslim communities which produce, support, maintain and grow them. Jihadis do not come from anywhere but their own local Islamic communities.


That's the logic.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 3rd, 2019 at 12:10pm:

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 7:04pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 2:37pm:

freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
So Islam differs from Nazism in that Islam also claims to be a religion?


Seems I need to dumb it down even more. Try this then:

- The core tenets (exemplified by the 5 pillars) of Islam are entirely about a personal journey of submission to God - through prayer, belief in oneness of God, fasting, alms giving and pilgrimage

- the core tenets of Nazism are entirely about emphasising one people's superiority over others and using violence to assert that superiority.

put even more simply - Islam is at its core entirely spiritual and personal, whereas Nazism at its core is entirely political and temporal


freediver wrote on May 2nd, 2019 at 12:30pm:
Can you explain how freedom adheres directly to the core tenet of Islam?


You can't reach true spiritual harmony (submission) if you are bothered by petty differences and squabbles with other humans. And if you are not bothered by these temporal matters, then you are by default accepting of the idea of 'each to his own', and the right of any individual to live how they like, provided they are not interfering with other's rights to the same.


Who told you what the core tenets of Nazism are?


OK, lets try the FD method of debating then...

have you ever met a nazi who isn't reflexively supportive of a racial supremacist ideology of hate and furthermore advocates violence to this end?


Not that I recall Gandalf. See how easy it is to give a straight answer?

Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't reflexively support genocide?

You you think it is a bit hypocritical of you to demand control of the careful PR turd polishing for Islam, while denying Nazis the same?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 7th, 2019 at 11:07pm
https://www.conservativenationalparty.org/policies

The objects of Fraser Anning’s Conservative National party are as follows:


i) the vision of Sir Henry Parkes of Australia as an English speaking, predominantly European Christian Commonwealth, as originally described in 1901 when Australia as a nation was founded;

ii) social cohesion by an immigration program that gives preference to those best able to integrate and assimilate;

iii) traditional family values, including recognising marriage as only the union of a man and a woman and the sanctity of human life at all ages, including both the unborn and the elderly;

iv) government through the democratic consent of the governed;

v) individual freedom, including unrestricted freedom of speech, association and belief;

vi) private enterprise;

vii) private property as an inviolable natural right;

viii) universal home-ownership as a national objective;

ix) Australian ownership of our infrastructure, manufacturing and agriculture;

x) widely distributed ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange through owner operated farms, small business and co-operatives;

xi) collective bargaining in agriculture and industry;

xii) orderly marketing of agricultural products;

xiii) the development of rural and regional infrastructure and the re-industrialisation of Australia;

xiv) an end to usury through the establishment of a not-for-profit government bank;

xv) the right to own firearms and use them in self-defence;

xvi) welfare as a safety net but restricted to citizens;

xvii) citizens initiated referenda and voluntary voting;

xviii) decentralisation of power and competitive federalism;

xix) a fair taxation system that encourages productivity and savings and rewards hard work;

xx) the restoration of Australia’s national sovereignty through repudiation of coercive international treaties and a foreign policy that puts Australia first;

xxi) a capable and well-resourced military and strong support for our veterans. 

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 7th, 2019 at 11:09pm

Secret Wars wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:44am:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:27am:

Secret Wars wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 10:26am:
Sri Lanka is expelling 200 Muslim “clerics” for visa overstating.

Good on them, at least they can connect dots.

Try that here even against that background and the forum cretins would ignore the hundreds of body parts and have a great old time impressing each other with how woke they are by shouting islamaphobe.  ::)


Oh, I know. Deporting visa overstayers.

As if we'd ever do that.


Don’t tell me you wouldn’t be leading the cretin cheer squad shouting islamaphobia if in the aftermath of an Islamic body part extravaganza the government elected to eject Muslim cleric overstayers.

You would be the first standing on body parts and virtue signalling how woke you are.


Oh, I know. That's moi, dear. Virtue signalling and body parts.

You're rather virtuous yourself, no? Most woke, dear.

I blame Islam, but that's just moi.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 8th, 2019 at 11:50am

freediver wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm:
Not that I recall Gandalf.


Then you have obviously never met a nazi.

Its starting to make sense now. All this while you bending over backwards to depict Nazis as not so bad, morally superior to muslims etc - I assumed you were just spinelessly apologising for them. Now I'm thinking you simply have no clue what a nazi actually is.


freediver wrote on May 7th, 2019 at 9:44pm:
you think it is a bit hypocritical of you to demand control of the careful PR turd polishing for Islam, while denying Nazis the same?


Here's my take FD: 100% of nazis are racist violent shitheads. They literally wouldn't be nazis if they weren't racist and violent shitheads.

You arguing that its possible for them to be something other than that only proves that you are clueless about what it actually takes to be a nazi.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 8th, 2019 at 2:57pm
gandi wrote:

Quote:
You arguing that its possible for them to be something other than that only proves that you are clueless about what it actually takes to be a nazi.


gandi we all know that there are muslims who can and do cite the qur'an as their justification for beheading innocent people, slaughtering innocent men women & children with suicide bombs, driving trucks into crowds with the intention of killing as many innocents as possible, killing people simply because they are not muslim, raping little girls with forced child marriage or once again because they are not muslim, killing random innocent people with knives /machetes, etc.etc..

So we've established that there are muslims who are utterly depraved evil people.

Now do you think that the people who say, there are muslims who are something other than the above depraved evil muslims, are clueless about what it actually takes to be a muslim?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 8th, 2019 at 3:14pm
moses I'll try and explain this as simply as possible.

"what it takes" to be a muslim - only requires adherence to a core set of beliefs and behaviours. These are most succintly articulated by the 5 pillars: belief in the oneness of God, dedication to prayer, alms giving, dedication to fasting and pilgrimage. If you adhere to these fundamental principles, no one can accuse you of not being a muslim.

As for 'what it takes" to be a nazi - it requires you to adhere to a violent and hateful ideology of racial supremacy. Thats not my biased spin, thats literally what it is moses. Do you actually dispute that?

Yes it is true that in addition to the 5 pillars, some muslims add on killing infidels and obligatory violence. But it is absolutely indisputable that this is a minority view of 'what it takes' to be muslim. And even the jihadis and Islamists can't dispute the fact that the 5 pillars - the 5 decidely *NON* violent, *NON* hateful principles of personal spiritual fulfillment - are absolutely crucial to being a muslim before anything else.

For nazis on the other hand - racism and violence and hate are not "optional add-ons" to a core set of non-violent, spiritual beliefs and practices that all adherents believe are the most important features of the ideology. Its violence, racism and hate - or its not Nazism. Its as simple as that.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 8th, 2019 at 3:29pm
Yet the qur'an, despite your protests gandi, can and does actuate utterly depraved human rights atrocities against the non muslim.

In that sense islam is absolutely no different to nazi ideology.

You (muslims / nazis) both are guilty of human rights atrocities.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 8th, 2019 at 3:58pm
No I can't see the premise of only one section of islam (5 pillars) matters, as being true.

There is a section of islam which causes islamic atrocities.

Now if you are going to say the bad bits don't matter gandi, why won't you denounce them as being inconsequential, wrong and not fit for the 21st century?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 5:33pm

moses wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:58pm:
No I can't see the premise of only one section of islam (5 pillars) matters, as being true.

There is a section of islam which causes islamic atrocities.

Now if you are going to say the bad bits don't matter gandi, why won't you denounce them as being inconsequential, wrong and not fit for the 21st century?


Appears you don't know or understand Islam very well at all, Moses.   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 8th, 2019 at 7:27pm

Quote:
Then you have obviously never met a nazi.


I nearly got assaulted by one when I was in Germany. I didn't stop to discuss politics.


Quote:
Its starting to make sense now. All this while you bending over backwards to depict Nazis as not so bad, morally superior to muslims etc - I assumed you were just spinelessly apologising for them. Now I'm thinking you simply have no clue what a nazi actually is.


Like you, I am happy to generalise about Nazis. Just as I am about Muslims.


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Here's my take FD: 100% of nazis are racist violent shitheads. They literally wouldn't be nazis if they weren't racist and violent shitheads.


Are they violent even if they do not act violently?


Quote:
You arguing that its possible for them to be something other than that only proves that you are clueless about what it actually takes to be a nazi.


People exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility. Like peace-loving Muslims. But even you reflexively support genocide.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 8th, 2019 at 7:59pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.





Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 8:23pm

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.


Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example.  ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 8th, 2019 at 8:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.


Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example.  ::)

Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 8:44pm

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.


Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example.  ::)

Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.


Not a parallel at all, Soren.  Naziism was effectively eliminated as a valid political movement by a world war, where millions were murdered by the Nazis and millions more died trying to stop them.   Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.  Islamism is an invalid, violent off-shoot and is not popular with most Muslims at all, despite what your Islamophobia might make you believe.   ::) ::)



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 8th, 2019 at 9:07pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.


Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example.  ::)

Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.


Not a parallel at all, Soren.  Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.  ::) ::)

:D :D

Unmoored mong, you.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 8th, 2019 at 9:08pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)


It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.

Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Islam only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Muslims.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 8th, 2019 at 9:09pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)

Stupid cant.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 9:30pm

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:07pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:44pm:

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:23pm:

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:59pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 3:42pm:
Islam = the 5 pillars as its core. There is precisely zero relation to violence and hate in any of these 5 pillars. Take away these 5 fundamentals, and there is no Islam - even the jihadis agree with this.

Nazism = racial supremacist ideology of hate as its core principle. This has a 100% relationhip with violence and hate. Take away this principle and there is no Nazism.

Can you see the difference yet?

Can you yet perceive why I think its fair to label 100% of nazis as violent shitheads, but not fair to similarly smear 100% of muslims?

Looking at Islam's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by the Koran and Mohammed's example.


Looking at Naziism's history, it is full of violence and hate justified by Mein Kamph and Hitler's example.  ::)

Very apt parallel, Bwian, thank you.


Not a parallel at all, Soren.  Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.  ::) ::)

:D :D

Unmoored mong, you.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You really need to stop projecting, Soren.  It just goes to show how unhinged you are from reality.  Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground, please.  The growups want to have a proper adult discussion.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 9:31pm

Frank wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:09pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)


Stupid cant.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  You really need to stop projecting, Soren.  It just goes to show how unhinged you are from reality.  Run along, back to your little kiddies' playground, please.  The growups want to have a proper adult discussion.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 9:33pm

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)


It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.


How Muslims treat one another in a Muslim country is in reality, a Muslim affair, FD.

Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...    ::)


Quote:
Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Islam only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Muslims.


Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Mr Hammer on May 8th, 2019 at 9:38pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)


It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.


How Muslims treat one another in a Muslim country is in reality, a Muslim affair, FD.

Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...    ::)

[quote]
Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Islam only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Muslims.


Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.   ::)[/quote]
By Brian Big Balls

Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that... 


And with a load of help from the US Air Force. Without this precision bombing they'd still be trying to take Mosul.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Secret Wars on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 8th, 2019 at 10:56pm

Secret Wars wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 



All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm

Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 


All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.


What do you think is happening now, Bobby?  Daesh and the other Islamists represent an equivalent to the Counter-Reformation movement of the Papists.  The moderate, mainstream Muslims represent the Reformation of the Protestants.    Yet most Islamophobes just lump them all in together.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 8th, 2019 at 11:34pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 


All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.


What do you think is happening now, Bobby?  Daesh and the other Islamists represent an equivalent to the Counter-Reformation movement of the Papists.  The moderate, mainstream Muslims represent the Reformation of the Protestants.    Yet most Islamophobes just lump them all in together.    ::) ::)



I hope you're right Brian -
peace depends on it.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 9th, 2019 at 10:55am

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Quote:
Then you have obviously never met a nazi.


I nearly got assaulted by one when I was in Germany. I didn't stop to discuss politics.


Why did he try and assault you then?

Did it have anything to do with him being a "reflexive supporter of a racial supremacist ideology". I really can't understand why you would question that this is a necessary prerequisite to be a nazi.


Quote:
Like you, I am happy to generalise about Nazis. Just as I am about Muslims.


And this makes absolutely no sense. Nazis are 100% racist and violent. Take those away and there is no nazism. Its as simple as that. No nazi believes in equality among the races. No nazi believes in peaceful coexistence among different races and culture. Generalising them as racist shitheads is not unfair, it is perfectly reasonable.

Yet to similarly generalise about muslims is insane. They come from all walks of life, from all cultures from all corners of the globe. The *ONLY* thing that unites them all is belief in the oneness of God, the need to worship that one God, and the personal spiritual requirements to
fulfill that worship (and even those methods differ from muslim to muslim). So you could generalise all muslims as monotheistic in the Abrahamic tradition - but thats about it. It is particularly insane to brand the "genocide supporter" blanket generalisation on them, because it is based on an assumed blind adherence to the actions of the Prophet - without even bothering to find out a) how they interpret the alleged incident of genocide (and if they even believe it happened) and b) if they actually do believe that "supporting" the alleged genocide is even a necessary aspect of supporting their prophet.

As I keep saying, it singularly denies individual muslims of individual agency. A 'mindless collective' is in fact the perfect description of what you reduce muslims to.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 9th, 2019 at 10:58am

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 7:27pm:
People exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility. Like peace-loving Muslims. But even you reflexively support genocide.


Look at you FD. You start out with "all muslims support genocide", no question, no exceptions - and now you're acknowledging muslims with "all sorts of moral flexibility".

Apparently not completely "all sorts" eh? We may have peace lovers in our ranks - but we absolutely draw the line at rejecting genocide.  :D

I don't think you could sound more ridiculous if you tried.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


Quote:
Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...


They would not have been stopped without non-Muslim interference. They would have reverted the area to traditional Muslim society.


Quote:
Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.


Slavery was only brought to an end in Muslim countries by foreign, largely Christian intervention, including several wars. There has never been a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement.

On the other hand, it was largely Christians who brought slavery to an end in the west, often citing their religion as a motive.

Once more, Islamic apolagists, stooped in ignorance, evangelise their ignorance with religious zeal, impervious to fact or reason.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 9th, 2019 at 4:40pm
Moderates islamists jihadists fundamentalists ???

They are all muslims following islam.

Moderates trying to hide from the various bits of filth and perversion in the qur'an.

The others, the Jihadists islamists fundamentalists, all strictly adhere to these segments of depravity in islam.

The moderates then kill the jihadists islamists fundamentalists for following these degenerate teaching of islam.

So the jihadists in return then kill moderates.

So it goes on, muzzies murdering their kids, slaughtering other muslims and non muslims, millions of them in refugee flight, becoming an ever increasing problem for the rest of the globe.

Their doctrine / islam / qur'an / allah / muhammad is the root cause of all their problems.

The jihadists etc., aren't concerned with the degeneracy in the qur'an, they love to live by the depraved guidelines.

The moderates don't have the  moral courage to question the evil in their doctrine, which gives rise to the utterly depraved behaviour of the jihadists islamists fundamentalists.

So for the moment the bloodshed, human rights atrocities will continue.

Until the day the world gets sick and tired of the muzzies and the loony leftard apologists, then demands that muslims take responsibility for their evil doctrine and its' engendered terrorism etc..

Slowly but surely the world is turning against them, so we just have to hang on for a bit longer.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 9th, 2019 at 5:01pm

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


Quote:
Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...


They would not have been stopped without non-Muslim interference. They would have reverted the area to traditional Muslim society.


Yeah, FD, just like the Kurds were tolerated to create Kurdistan in northern Iraq, right and the Sh'ia Iraqis were tolerated to created a separate Sh'ia Iraq?  You really do have a strange idea of what happens in the world, FD.   ::)


Quote:
[quote]Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.


Slavery was only brought to an end in Muslim countries by foreign, largely Christian intervention, including several wars. There has never been a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement.
[/quote]

Then, you're right.  Now? How the hell do you know, anything, FD?  Your ignorance is appalling, you realise?  You wear it proudly like a badge of honour.    ::)

Once more, Christian apologists, stooped in ignorance, evangelise their ignorance with religious zeal, impervious to fact or reason.    ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 9th, 2019 at 7:06pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 


All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.


What do you think is happening now, Bobby?  Daesh and the other Islamists represent an equivalent to the Counter-Reformation movement of the Papists.  The moderate, mainstream Muslims represent the Reformation of the Protestants.    Yet most Islamophobes just lump them all in together.    ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D

That is really stupid, Bwian.

The civil war within islam is exactly the same it was the day Mo died. There is no Reformation, only schism over succession.
There are no 'moderates', only apostates and backsliders in Islam. There is Allan's final word, that's it. And Mo's example.

What 'moderates' moderate Muslims, BTW? Tell us, great mail order skolar of comparative religion (ie stupidity on stilts).



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 9th, 2019 at 7:17pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:33pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:08pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 8:48pm:

Quote:
Islam is a world religion which has, by and large, come to a peaceful accommodation with the rest of the world.


It took several wars to stop Muslim countries treating non-Muslim countries as nothing more than a source of slaves. The only real difference is that the Germans stopped being Nazis after they lost. Islam is what you get when the Germans hold on to Nazism. Islam has only ever 'accommodated' when it was forced to.

You are attempting to use your ignorance of history as an argument in favour of Islam Brian.


I am less ignorant of history than you have been proved to be, FD.

Part of reaching an "accommodation" is in part the evangelising of Islam through force was stopped.  Now, we just need Christianity to be stopped in it's evangelising.  All sky daddy followers are the same it seems.  They just can't stop wanting to save the world for their sky daddy.   Tsk, tsk. ::)


It was not stopped Brian. It is still happening. For example, apostasy is still a crime in Malaysia. ISIS was recently using the more traditional method of rape evangelism.


How Muslims treat one another in a Muslim country is in reality, a Muslim affair, FD.

Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...    ::)


:D :D :D


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 9th, 2019 at 7:27pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


Quote:
Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...


They would not have been stopped without non-Muslim interference. They would have reverted the area to traditional Muslim society.


Yeah, FD, just like the Kurds were tolerated to create Kurdistan in northern Iraq, right and the Sh'ia Iraqis were tolerated to created a separate Sh'ia Iraq?  You really do have a strange idea of what happens in the world, FD.   ::)

[quote]
[quote]Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.


Slavery was only brought to an end in Muslim countries by foreign, largely Christian intervention, including several wars. There has never been a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement.
[/quote]

Then, you're right.  Now? How the hell do you know, anything, FD?  Your ignorance is appalling, you realise?  You wear it proudly like a badge of honour.    ::)

Once more, Christian apologists, stooped in ignorance, evangelise their ignorance with religious zeal, impervious to fact or reason.    ::)
[/quote]
You are NOT pointing to a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement, Bwian. Point it out. Go on.


You are rending your clothes, once more, like a self-righteous git without actually pointing to any evidence to support your idiotic assertions.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 9th, 2019 at 8:14pm

Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 11:34pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 


All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.


What do you think is happening now, Bobby?  Daesh and the other Islamists represent an equivalent to the Counter-Reformation movement of the Papists.  The moderate, mainstream Muslims represent the Reformation of the Protestants.    Yet most Islamophobes just lump them all in together.    ::) ::)



I hope you're right Brian -
peace depends on it.



I wonder if Gandalf can tell us about the reformation of Islam?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 9th, 2019 at 8:39pm

Frank wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 7:06pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 11:05pm:

Bobby. wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Secret Wars wrote on May 8th, 2019 at 9:58pm:
Islam is a world religion which by and large, cannot even come to a peaceful accomodation with itself.

The civil wars and regimes shitfights of the Middle East  are not so much Uncle Sam and colonialism as the woke apologists would have it, but Sunni/Shia conflicts where the west has picked a less loathsome side. 


All Abrahamic religion has violence at its roots.
We got over it after the Spanish Inquisition but
it still plagues Islam.
They need a reformation like we had.


What do you think is happening now, Bobby?  Daesh and the other Islamists represent an equivalent to the Counter-Reformation movement of the Papists.  The moderate, mainstream Muslims represent the Reformation of the Protestants.    Yet most Islamophobes just lump them all in together.    ::) ::)

;D ;D ;D

That is really stupid, Bwian.

The civil war within islam is exactly the same it was the day Mo died. There is no Reformation, only schism over succession.

There are no 'moderates', only apostates and backsliders in Islam. There is Allan's final word, that's it. And Mo's example.

What 'moderates' moderate Muslims, BTW? Tell us, great mail order skolar of comparative religion (ie stupidity on stilts).


Spoken as always from the depths of your pit of ignorance, Soren.  You obviously know nothing about the history of Islam and it's development over the 1400+ years since the death of Mohammed.   You appear to have swallowed the guff of the Islamists quite happily, Soren.  Fester in your ignorance.   As always, you resort to ad hominem insult rather than rational debate.  Run along back to the little kiddies' playground where you belong.  The Adults would like an Adult conversation for a change.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 9th, 2019 at 8:45pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


Quote:
Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...


They would not have been stopped without non-Muslim interference. They would have reverted the area to traditional Muslim society.


Yeah, FD, just like the Kurds were tolerated to create Kurdistan in northern Iraq, right and the Sh'ia Iraqis were tolerated to created a separate Sh'ia Iraq?  You really do have a strange idea of what happens in the world, FD.   ::)

[quote]
[quote]Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.


Slavery was only brought to an end in Muslim countries by foreign, largely Christian intervention, including several wars. There has never been a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement.
[/quote]

Then, you're right.  Now? How the hell do you know, anything, FD?  Your ignorance is appalling, you realise?  You wear it proudly like a badge of honour.    ::)

Once more, Christian apologists, stooped in ignorance, evangelise their ignorance with religious zeal, impervious to fact or reason.    ::)
[/quote]

Of course I am right Brian. This is all easy enough to find out.

Why did you respond to my comments about Muslims spreading Islam through sex slavery by highlighting the ability of modern Muslims to tolerate (even that is a stretch) other Muslim groups? Was there a point in there?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 10th, 2019 at 3:08pm
loony leftard apologist wrote:

Quote:
You obviously know nothing about the history of Islam and it's development over the 1400+ years since the death of Mohammed


Gee I mean what is islam today 1400 odd years after muhammad?

Well now lets see: muslims number one global terrorists - muslim poverty abounds - muslim inbreeding a huge problem - muslim refugees are a world wide problem - muslims slaughter their own children in the hundreds of thousands with their incessant warfare  - muslims today in the 21st century practice suicide bombing of innocents - muslims commit the most inhumane depraved acts of human rights atrocities because their qur'an tells them to - muslims attack innocent men women and children (soft targets) with the sole intention of slaughtering as many of the innocents as possible with their attacks, muslims have reduced their homelands into pile of worthless rubble, etc. etc..

Then they believe in talking trees and rocks, flying donkeys, evil spirits live in the toilet, women have to sit with their legs together in toilet (presumably to stop the jinns getting in), practice child marriage, practice F.G.M., practice bacha bazi (boy play) with the bacha bereesh (boys without beards) for a bit of you know what, believe that the jihadists will get straight into paradise replete with hour'is with big tits and little boys, plus a host of other extremely stupid 7th century belief.

So yes we see the muzzies have actually gone backwards, while every body else is marching along with modernity.

Too dumb to realize that their problems are all caused by their beliefs, instead they actually think that the way up is to sink deeper and deeper into the stupidity that islam is.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 10th, 2019 at 6:44pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?


I've never met a Muslim who doesn't support genocide. Have you?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 10th, 2019 at 10:35pm

moses wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 3:08pm:
loony leftard apologist wrote:

Quote:
You obviously know nothing about the history of Islam and it's development over the 1400+ years since the death of Mohammed


Gee I mean what is islam today 1400 odd years after muhammad?


What you mean, Moses?  You mean what you always have.  You have no understanding of how Islam is today because you, like Soren, know SFA about how it got here.  Islam today is a mishmash of competing views and interpretations of what Mohammed meant when he said his various revelations.  Islam is not one, unified religion.  Like Christianity, it has schismed and split across multiple fracture lines.

Your views, like Soren's are coloured by your Islamophobia - a disease that prevents you from seeing the reality of the world in favour of your fantasies where your hatred of Islam and Muslims is real and colours your perceptions.  I would seek help, if I was you but you're not, are you?  You have lost yourself so deeply into your invention that you cannot even perceive reality.

To you, Muslims are subhumans, to be hated and vilified at every opportunity.  You have even lost sight of the central tenants of your own religion, Moses.   

Run along, your nursemaid is calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where your childish antics are tolerated.    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 11th, 2019 at 1:05am

freediver wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?


I've never met a Muslim who doesn't support genocide. Have you?


That's because he's so creative, FD.

You?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 11th, 2019 at 9:18am

Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 10:35pm:

moses wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 3:08pm:
loony leftard apologist wrote:

Quote:
You obviously know nothing about the history of Islam and it's development over the 1400+ years since the death of Mohammed


Gee I mean what is islam today 1400 odd years after muhammad?


What you mean, Moses?  You mean what you always have.  You have no understanding of how Islam is today because you, like Soren, know SFA about how it got here.  Islam today is a mishmash of competing views and interpretations of what Mohammed meant when he said his various revelations.  Islam is not one, unified religion.  Like Christianity, it has schismed and split across multiple fracture lines.

Your views, like Soren's are coloured by your Islamophobia - a disease that prevents you from seeing the reality of the world in favour of your fantasies where your hatred of Islam and Muslims is real and colours your perceptions.  I would seek help, if I was you but you're not, are you?  You have lost yourself so deeply into your invention that you cannot even perceive reality.

To you, Muslims are subhumans, to be hated and vilified at every opportunity.  You have even lost sight of the central tenants of your own religion, Moses.   

Run along, your nursemaid is calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where your childish antics are tolerated.    ::) ::)

They are not subhuman.
But they believe in a violent, oppressive, essentially  soul and mind-deforming creed dreamt up by a bloody, horny warlord.

What it does to their spirits can be seen  on their faces.



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 11th, 2019 at 9:32am

Frank wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 7:27pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 5:01pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


Quote:
Daesh was stopped - by other, fellow Muslims from using forced evangelism as a strategy, FD, just in case you missed that...


They would not have been stopped without non-Muslim interference. They would have reverted the area to traditional Muslim society.


Yeah, FD, just like the Kurds were tolerated to create Kurdistan in northern Iraq, right and the Sh'ia Iraqis were tolerated to created a separate Sh'ia Iraq?  You really do have a strange idea of what happens in the world, FD.   ::)

[quote]
[quote]Again, for those too ignorant and too unwilling to learn - Christianity was only stopped where it was forced to do so by non-Christians.


Slavery was only brought to an end in Muslim countries by foreign, largely Christian intervention, including several wars. There has never been a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement.


Then, you're right.  Now? How the hell do you know, anything, FD?  Your ignorance is appalling, you realise?  You wear it proudly like a badge of honour.    ::)

Once more, Christian apologists, stooped in ignorance, evangelise their ignorance with religious zeal, impervious to fact or reason.    ::)
[/quote]
You are NOT pointing to a significant Muslim anti-slavery movement, Bwian. Point it out. Go on.


You are rending your clothes, once more, like a self-righteous git without actually pointing to any evidence to support your idiotic assertions.

[/quote]
Bwian, where was that significant anti-slavery movement in Islam? You forgot to share your knowledge?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 11th, 2019 at 2:09pm

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 9:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 10:35pm:

moses wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 3:08pm:
loony leftard apologist wrote:

Quote:
You obviously know nothing about the history of Islam and it's development over the 1400+ years since the death of Mohammed


Gee I mean what is islam today 1400 odd years after muhammad?


What you mean, Moses?  You mean what you always have.  You have no understanding of how Islam is today because you, like Soren, know SFA about how it got here.  Islam today is a mishmash of competing views and interpretations of what Mohammed meant when he said his various revelations.  Islam is not one, unified religion.  Like Christianity, it has schismed and split across multiple fracture lines.

Your views, like Soren's are coloured by your Islamophobia - a disease that prevents you from seeing the reality of the world in favour of your fantasies where your hatred of Islam and Muslims is real and colours your perceptions.  I would seek help, if I was you but you're not, are you?  You have lost yourself so deeply into your invention that you cannot even perceive reality.

To you, Muslims are subhumans, to be hated and vilified at every opportunity.  You have even lost sight of the central tenants of your own religion, Moses.   

Run along, your nursemaid is calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where your childish antics are tolerated.    ::) ::)

They are not subhuman.
But they believe in a violent, oppressive, essentially  soul and mind-deforming creed dreamt up by a bloody, horny warlord.

What it does to their spirits can be seen  on their faces.


Correlation not causation. Inferior culture, innit. Islam is not a race.

Just tinted.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 11th, 2019 at 3:19pm

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 9:18am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 10:35pm:

moses wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 3:08pm:
loony leftard apologist wrote:

Quote:
You obviously know nothing about the history of Islam and it's development over the 1400+ years since the death of Mohammed


Gee I mean what is islam today 1400 odd years after muhammad?


What you mean, Moses?  You mean what you always have.  You have no understanding of how Islam is today because you, like Soren, know SFA about how it got here.  Islam today is a mishmash of competing views and interpretations of what Mohammed meant when he said his various revelations.  Islam is not one, unified religion.  Like Christianity, it has schismed and split across multiple fracture lines.

Your views, like Soren's are coloured by your Islamophobia - a disease that prevents you from seeing the reality of the world in favour of your fantasies where your hatred of Islam and Muslims is real and colours your perceptions.  I would seek help, if I was you but you're not, are you?  You have lost yourself so deeply into your invention that you cannot even perceive reality.

To you, Muslims are subhumans, to be hated and vilified at every opportunity.  You have even lost sight of the central tenants of your own religion, Moses.   

Run along, your nursemaid is calling you back to your little kiddies' playground where your childish antics are tolerated.    ::) ::)

They are not subhuman.
But they believe in a violent, oppressive, essentially  soul and mind-deforming creed dreamt up by a bloody, horny warlord.

What it does to their spirits can be seen  on their faces.


Can it, Soren?  Really?  So, how has it affected these children?







How about these Muslim women?



https://static.independent.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/08/04/16/nialamohammad.jpg?w968

https://www.itsnicethat.com/system/files/032018/5a9d49a57fa44c36a5002bfb/images_slice_large/YumnaAlArashi-Face-Photography-ItsNiceThat-15.jpg?1520257687



How about these Muslim men?





Soren, you have a really distorted idea about what it is to be Muslim.  Your Islamophobia colours your perspective at every step...   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 11th, 2019 at 6:02pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)


Oh, they call them spawn, dear. They're guilty of outbreeding us, you see.

That's why we have to CESTERETE THEM.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 11th, 2019 at 7:52pm

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


I blame Islam. Cesterete them.

CRITICALLY, of course.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 11th, 2019 at 9:04pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


I blame Islam. Cesterete them.

CRITICALLY, of course.

Eat more shite. That's  all you ever want, paki. Uncritical shite eating.


Gobble.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 11th, 2019 at 9:44pm

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 9:04pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 7:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


I blame Islam. Cesterete them.

CRITICALLY, of course.

Eat more shite. That's  all you ever want, paki. Uncritical shite eating.

Gobble.


Thanks, dear boy, I couldn't eat another thing.

Is Paki correlation or causation?

Good heavens, it's not a race, is it?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe. The word only exists for Islam, because Islam demands special treatment. What any other religious groups is expected to tolerate in the name of free speech or simply being civilised, sends Muslims apeshit, and brings out the apologists whining about how unfair it is.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 12th, 2019 at 11:49am
We hear so often about Muslims as victims of abuse in the West and combatants in the Arab Spring’s fight against tyranny. But, in fact, a wholly different kind of war is underway—an unrecognized battle costing thousands of lives.
Christians are being killed in the Islamic world because of their religion. It is a rising genocide that ought to provoke global alarm.
https://www.newsweek.com/ayaan-hirsi-alithe-global-war-christians-muslim-world-65817

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)



Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Bobby. on May 12th, 2019 at 2:10pm

Frank wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 11:49am:
We hear so often about Muslims as victims of abuse in the West and combatants in the Arab Spring’s fight against tyranny. But, in fact, a wholly different kind of war is underway—an unrecognized battle costing thousands of lives.
Christians are being killed in the Islamic world because of their religion. It is a rising genocide that ought to provoke global alarm.
https://www.newsweek.com/ayaan-hirsi-alithe-global-war-christians-muslim-world-65817


Don't worry -
Trump is starting anew war against Islam right now:
http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1557617484/0#0


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 12th, 2019 at 6:37pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)

You are mocked for being incredibly idiotic.


Any PC ~phobia is a made-up nonsense word. Islamophobia is a opportunistic - like most things about Muslims - attempt to get on the victimhood bandwagon. Being an opportunist yourself who knows none the better, you are banging on about Islamophobia so tendentiously that an Muslim would be ashamed to imitate you for fear of being - yes, mocked.

Christians are actually murdered by Muslims all across the Islamic world. But farting in the general direction of Muslims is your concern above all else, well ahead of all the Islamic murders. To that you are blind and deaf.   You are siding with the Islamists because some Christian brothers clipped you around your empty-headed ears 100 years ago. And now you are all supercilious, mail-order qualified hair-splitting shill for Islam.

Talk about psychic deformity.






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 12th, 2019 at 10:28pm

Frank wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:37pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)

You are mocked for being incredibly idiotic.


Gee, really?  I'd never have guessed, Soren.   I am surprised.    ::)


Quote:
Any PC ~phobia is a made-up nonsense word. Islamophobia is a opportunistic - like most things about Muslims - attempt to get on the victimhood bandwagon. Being an opportunist yourself who knows none the better, you are banging on about Islamophobia so tendentiously that an Muslim would be ashamed to imitate you for fear of being - yes, mocked.

Christians are actually murdered by Muslims all across the Islamic world. But farting in the general direction of Muslims is your concern above all else, well ahead of all the Islamic murders. To that you are blind and deaf.   You are siding with the Islamists because some Christian brothers clipped you around your empty-headed ears 100 years ago. And now you are all supercilious, mail-order qualified hair-splitting shill for Islam.

Talk about psychic deformity.



Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  Reaching deep into your bucket of mud tonight, aren't you?   Oh, well, off, back to your little kiddies' playground where you can play with your little friends to your heart's content.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 13th, 2019 at 10:55am
Where's Mormor?

Wo bist sie, Mormor?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 13th, 2019 at 1:57pm

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.



Really?  They are it seems to any casual observers to be actually whinging and whining about only one religion, FD.   In their whinges and whining they make no effort to differentiate the moderate from the exteme, the Terrorists from the law abiding.  Muslims are not demanding special treatement, they want equal treatment.   They want their religion to be accorded the same respect that Christianity is, nothing more.   You, however take that to mean they want more than Christianity presently receives.  Could it be because you are an Islamophobe?    ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 13th, 2019 at 3:21pm

freediver wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?


I've never met a Muslim who doesn't support genocide. Have you?


Even your work buddies who you had beers with?

Funny claim to make FD after you specifically said you avoided the topic with them.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 13th, 2019 at 3:31pm
Bump for FD:


polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?


FD can you confirm that you think muslims can "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility" and be hypocrits on Islamic doctrine, but never ever on the issue of supporting genocide - not a single man woman or child in the entire 1.5 billion population of muslims?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 13th, 2019 at 4:21pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 3:31pm:
Bump for FD:


polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?


FD can you confirm that you think muslims can "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility" and be hypocrits on Islamic doctrine, but never ever on the issue of supporting genocide - not a single man woman or child in the entire 1.5 billion population of muslims?


I think we can, G. Moh was a Muselman. Moh killed those Jews.

Ipso facto, Muslims support genocide.

Easy. Scientific, innit.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 13th, 2019 at 4:24pm

Quote:
differentiate the moderate from the exteme,


The qur'an preaches hatred and death of the non believer and hypocrite believers.

So what's the difference between the *moderate* and the extreme?

The extreme follow the hate / death commands to the very letter, rape torture and mass murder is the order of the day for them.

The moderates far from wanting to have a reformation and expunge this evil from their doctrine, simply lie saying it's all misinterpreted, that the bits about rape torture and mass murder signify something else.

How long will the world put up with the lies of the *moderates* before it demands that muslims take responsibility for the innumerable evil verses in their doctrine, which causes the rape torture and mass murder committed by the extremists?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 13th, 2019 at 4:26pm

moses wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 4:24pm:

Quote:
differentiate the moderate from the exteme,


The qur'an preaches hatred and death of the non believer and hypocrite believers.

So what's the difference between the *moderate* and the extreme?

The extreme follow the hate / death commands to the very letter, rape torture and mass murder is the order of the day for them.

The moderates far from wanting to have a reformation and expunge this evil from their doctrine, simply lie saying it's all misinterpreted, that the bits about rape torture and mass murder signify something else.

How long will the world put up with the lies of the *moderates* before it demands that muslims take responsibility for the innumerable evil verses in their doctrine, which causes the rape torture and mass murder of the extremists?


And upon that day, Islam will cease to exist, no?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 13th, 2019 at 4:26pm
The Bible preaches hatred and death of the non believer and hypocrite believers.

So what's the difference between the *moderate* and the extreme?

The extreme follow the hate / death commands to the very letter, rape torture and mass murder is the order of the day for them.

The moderates far from wanting to have a reformation and expunge this evil from their doctrine, simply lie saying it's all misinterpreted, that the bits about rape torture and mass murder signify something else.

How long will the world put up with the lies of the *moderates* before it demands that Christians take responsibility for the innumerable evil verses in their doctrine, which causes the rape torture and mass murder of the extremists?   ::) ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 13th, 2019 at 4:29pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 4:26pm:
The Bible preaches hatred and death of the non believer and hypocrite believers.

So what's the difference between the *moderate* and the extreme?

The extreme follow the hate / death commands to the very letter, rape torture and mass murder is the order of the day for them.

The moderates far from wanting to have a reformation and expunge this evil from their doctrine, simply lie saying it's all misinterpreted, that the bits about rape torture and mass murder signify something else.

How long will the world put up with the lies of the *moderates* before it demands that Christians take responsibility for the innumerable evil verses in their doctrine, which causes the rape torture and mass murder of the extremists?   ::) ::)


I keep asking Moses that, Brian. He says you have to hate the Muselman because the devil tempted prophet Yeheshua in the desert.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 13th, 2019 at 4:33pm
Truth will show the qur'an is a flawed evil book, authored to give doctrinal support to the jihadists in whatever depraved deed they participated, while spreading the revamped moon god allahs' new religion of hate (islam).


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by xeej on May 13th, 2019 at 5:05pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 4:29pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 4:26pm:
The Bible preaches hatred and death of the non believer and hypocrite believers.

So what's the difference between the *moderate* and the extreme?

The extreme follow the hate / death commands to the very letter, rape torture and mass murder is the order of the day for them.

The moderates far from wanting to have a reformation and expunge this evil from their doctrine, simply lie saying it's all misinterpreted, that the bits about rape torture and mass murder signify something else.

How long will the world put up with the lies of the *moderates* before it demands that Christians take responsibility for the innumerable evil verses in their doctrine, which causes the rape torture and mass murder of the extremists?   ::) ::)


I keep asking Moses that, Brian. He says you have to hate the Muselman because the devil tempted prophet Yeheshua in the desert.

They should stone the Devil to death.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 13th, 2019 at 5:06pm
Truth will show the Bible is a flawed evil book, authored to give doctrinal support to the Crusaders in whatever depraved deed they participated, while spreading the revamped moon god Yahweh's new religion of hate (Christianity).   ::) ::)


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 13th, 2019 at 5:38pm
muslims have carried out more than 34999 deadly terrorists attacks in the name of islam, since September 11 2001

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 13th, 2019 at 6:40pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.



Really?  They are it seems to any casual observers to be actually whinging and whining about only one religion, FD.   In their whinges and whining they make no effort to differentiate the moderate from the exteme, the Terrorists from the law abiding.  Muslims are not demanding special treatement, they want equal treatment.   They want their religion to be accorded the same respect that Christianity is, nothing more.   You, however take that to mean they want more than Christianity presently receives.  Could it be because you are an Islamophobe?    ::) ::)


Christianity is mocked mercilessly. Muslims want special treatment for Islam. The respect it gets should have nothing to do with how much respect Christianity gets. It deserves far less, but gets more, due to the constant whining about Islamophobia, and the very real threat of death for mocking it. The very notion that it deserves equal respect to some other religion just because it also claims to be a religion is but one example of the infinite demands for special treatment made for Islam.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 3:21pm:

freediver wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 6:44pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 10th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 6:48pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

freediver wrote on May 9th, 2019 at 12:38pm:
Gandalf are Nazis violent even if they do not act violently?


I mean they advocate and support violence. Whether that means they partake in violence themselves, or cheer on their fellow nazis who do. Either way violence is a nazi's modus operandi, and they absolutely support it 100%.

Can you expand on this acknowledgement of people (presumably including muslims) who "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility", and how it fits in with your insistence that absolutely 100% of muslims, men women and children are of one mind in their unquestioning support of genocide?

Why do you think that muslims can so flagrantly disobey what you believe is the commands in Quranic chapter 9 and elsewhere and be "peace loving muslims", but cannot possibly give any leeway in the whole "must support Muhammad" thing and reject genocide?


It's called hypocrisy Gandalf. It was ISIS policy to target the hypocrits for death first, before the Jews. The Quran itself has plenty of rants against the hypocrits.

What "commands" are you referring to?

Can you clarify that you are retracting this statement?


Quote:
Nazis are 100% racist and violent.


They are 100% racist and 100% support violence. Apologies I wasn't clear the first time.

And what you are saying now is that muslims can not only be 'morally flexible', but also hypocrits on doctrine. Presumably you say all this while maintaining that 100% of muslims, men women and children, will absolutely never ever always support genocide. Can you confirm this?


I've never met a Muslim who doesn't support genocide. Have you?


Even your work buddies who you had beers with?

Funny claim to make FD after you specifically said you avoided the topic with them.


It didn't come up in conversation Gandalf.

How about you. Have you ever met a Muslim who doesn't support genocide?


Quote:
FD can you confirm that you think muslims can "exhibit all sorts of moral flexibility" and be hypocrits on Islamic doctrine, but never ever on the issue of supporting genocide - not a single man woman or child in the entire 1.5 billion population of muslims?


I have already acknowledged the theoretical possibility that I am wrong on this, hence my repeated suggestions that you provide an example to prove me wrong.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 13th, 2019 at 7:22pm

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
I have already acknowledged the theoretical possibility that I am wrong on this


Really FD?

Funny, such acknowledgement doesn't seem clear in the blaring headline "All muslims support genocide".

Is your argument now "all muslims support genocide - until proven otherwise"?

Cause that just doesn't seem fair.


Quote:
my repeated suggestions that you provide an example to prove me wrong.


I don't know FD, to me, the idea that it is incumbent upon muslims to 'prove' they are not genocide supporters before you stop labelling us all as such - just seems like a massive insult. But thats just me.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 13th, 2019 at 7:24pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 7:22pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:43pm:
I have already acknowledged the theoretical possibility that I am wrong on this


Really FD?

Funny, such acknowledgement doesn't seem clear in the blaring headline "All muslims support genocide".

Is your argument now "all muslims support genocide - until proven otherwise"?

Cause that just doesn't seem fair.


I have said the same thing recently, pretty much word for word Gandalf.

I really do want you to try to think of a Muslim you have met who does not support genocide.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 13th, 2019 at 7:32pm
Seriously though FD, do you honestly think these 'tell me who you know' games actually proves anything?

How about we try actual debating with proper arguments and logic?

Like say, something less idiotic than thinking that getting me to present a muslim (or make one up) who doesn't support genocide is actually a good way to refute the idiotic claim that every single muslim, man woman and child support genocide?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 13th, 2019 at 7:32pm

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.



Really?  They are it seems to any casual observers to be actually whinging and whining about only one religion, FD.   In their whinges and whining they make no effort to differentiate the moderate from the exteme, the Terrorists from the law abiding.  Muslims are not demanding special treatement, they want equal treatment.   They want their religion to be accorded the same respect that Christianity is, nothing more.   You, however take that to mean they want more than Christianity presently receives.  Could it be because you are an Islamophobe?    ::) ::)


Christianity is mocked mercilessly. Muslims want special treatment for Islam. The respect it gets should have nothing to do with how much respect Christianity gets. It deserves far less, but gets more, due to the constant whining about Islamophobia, and the very real threat of death for mocking it. The very notion that it deserves equal respect to some other religion just because it also claims to be a religion is but one example of the infinite demands for special treatment made for Islam.


It might have escaped you, FD, but 1.6 billion people believe in Islam which makes it the second largest religion in the world.   It deserves the same respect that Christianity gets from Government and from the MSM.   You may believe otherwise but Muslims get angry when their religion is mocked, just as some Christians do, when Christianity is mocked.    ::)


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 13th, 2019 at 8:26pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 7:32pm:
Seriously though FD, do you honestly think these 'tell me who you know' games actually proves anything?

How about we try actual debating with proper arguments and logic?

Like say, something less idiotic than thinking that getting me to present a muslim (or make one up) who doesn't support genocide is actually a good way to refute the idiotic claim that every single muslim, man woman and child support genocide?


Did you delete that comment about your daughter?

I am making a claim that is impossible to prove but trivial to disprove - if it is wrong. So it is entirely reasonable for me to put the ball in your court and suggest you provide the example that proves me wrong.

Note I am not suggesting you make it up. I am suggesting you find an actual real life Muslim who does not support genocide.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by freediver on May 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.



Really?  They are it seems to any casual observers to be actually whinging and whining about only one religion, FD.   In their whinges and whining they make no effort to differentiate the moderate from the exteme, the Terrorists from the law abiding.  Muslims are not demanding special treatement, they want equal treatment.   They want their religion to be accorded the same respect that Christianity is, nothing more.   You, however take that to mean they want more than Christianity presently receives.  Could it be because you are an Islamophobe?    ::) ::)


Christianity is mocked mercilessly. Muslims want special treatment for Islam. The respect it gets should have nothing to do with how much respect Christianity gets. It deserves far less, but gets more, due to the constant whining about Islamophobia, and the very real threat of death for mocking it. The very notion that it deserves equal respect to some other religion just because it also claims to be a religion is but one example of the infinite demands for special treatment made for Islam.


It might have escaped you, FD, but 1.6 billion people believe in Islam which makes it the second largest religion in the world.   It deserves the same respect that Christianity gets from Government and from the MSM.   You may believe otherwise but Muslims get angry when their religion is mocked, just as some Christians do, when Christianity is mocked.    ::)


No religions "deserves" respect, certainly not on the basis of number of followers, particularly when that is achieved by rape evangelism and beheading apostates.

You claim to be critical of religion in general, but toss that out the window for Islam. The hypocrisy drips from your every post.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 13th, 2019 at 9:03pm
Islam wants to subjugate.
It doesnt want to coexist, it demands submission. That's  what jihad is about, that's  what the Koran and Mohammed are about.
Submit to Islam. That's all there is to Islam.

Well, fvkc that.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 13th, 2019 at 9:59pm

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 7:32pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 6:40pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 9:25pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 6:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 2:07pm:

freediver wrote on May 12th, 2019 at 8:04am:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 10:56pm:

Frank wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 6:13pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 5:41pm:

freediver wrote on May 11th, 2019 at 3:24pm:
Gee thanks Brian. Who would have thought that Muslims can have children?


I am sure you and your fellow Islamophobes dislike them doing that, hey, Freediver?    ::)

What's the difference between Islamophobia and Individualophobia, Bwian?
The ideology and any particular believer of it?


I think the only intellectually and psychologically rational response to Islam is to resist it, at the very least be weary of it - and to CRITICALLY examine it.  That little word, 'critically',  gives you the shivers, Bwian.  A critical examination  - and (the horror!!) rejection - of Islam send you into an apoplexy of convulsive virtue-signalling.


Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Poor, poor, Soren.  I have no qualms at all of anyone being critical of Islam.  However, those criticisms should be based upon reality, not Islamophobic fantasies.  If you applied an equal measure of critical examination to Christianity, I don't doubt you'd be seen as a Christianophobe, Soren.  The problem is, you don't.  You instead choose to persecute Muslims because you refuse to even understand their religion.  You would prefer to merely display your hatred and your desire to well, cesterate them all, right?   ::)


No-one is seen as a Christianophobe.


Really?  Yet I have frequently in this forum been called one, FD.  Does that make the people who called me wrong?  Really?    ::) ::)


I am sure you have, but only as a way of mocking the incredibly stupid things you post.


Ah, so they didn't mean what they said, FD?  Interesting.   ::)


They are not genuine whiners in the sense that people who use the term Islamophobe are. They use the term to mock you or highlight how idiotic it is to demand special treatment for one religion.



Really?  They are it seems to any casual observers to be actually whinging and whining about only one religion, FD.   In their whinges and whining they make no effort to differentiate the moderate from the exteme, the Terrorists from the law abiding.  Muslims are not demanding special treatement, they want equal treatment.   They want their religion to be accorded the same respect that Christianity is, nothing more.   You, however take that to mean they want more than Christianity presently receives.  Could it be because you are an Islamophobe?    ::) ::)


Christianity is mocked mercilessly. Muslims want special treatment for Islam. The respect it gets should have nothing to do with how much respect Christianity gets. It deserves far less, but gets more, due to the constant whining about Islamophobia, and the very real threat of death for mocking it. The very notion that it deserves equal respect to some other religion just because it also claims to be a religion is but one example of the infinite demands for special treatment made for Islam.


It might have escaped you, FD, but 1.6 billion people believe in Islam which makes it the second largest religion in the world.   It deserves the same respect that Christianity gets from Government and from the MSM.   You may believe otherwise but Muslims get angry when their religion is mocked, just as some Christians do, when Christianity is mocked.    ::)


No religions "deserves" respect, certainly not on the basis of number of followers, particularly when that is achieved by rape evangelism and beheading apostates.

You claim to be critical of religion in general, but toss that out the window for Islam. The hypocrisy drips from your every post.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Really?  Oh, poor, poor, Freediver.   Are you offended that someone believes that Islam should be given a fair deal?   Numbers do command respect - a fact of life.  Something however, you refuse to accept.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 14th, 2019 at 10:16am

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 8:26pm:
I am making a claim that is impossible to prove but trivial to disprove - if it is wrong.


To you it literally can't be disproved FD. You have actually revealed this in your response to my question whether or not you would accept a muslim's rejection of genocide. What did you say? You said they would be weasel words and in any case justifying genocide. What was glaringly missing from your answer was any acknowledgement whatsoever that they could ever be actually rejecting genocide. So lets just be honest here. I could post a video of a muslim saying "I don't support genocide" and you will spin it as justifying genocide, and rhetorically ask "ah, but are they rejecting Muhammad??". Lets not pretend otherwise FD.

In any case you still don't understand burden of proof.

You state it as fact, therefore if it is impossible to prove, it is wrong by default.

There was a very simple solution to this - you just had to say something like "Many muslims would probably support genocide because..." or "it is logical that muslims should support genocide (although thats obviously not necessarily the case)" - or even putting a question mark at the end. But just casually throwing it out there as an unquestioned fact - "all muslims support genocide (no ifs, no buts)", you instantly put the burden of proof on yourself. And therefore, you can't simply justify such a baseless statement by this ridiculous argument that its actually incumbent upon me to disprove it.


freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 8:26pm:
Note I am not suggesting you make it up. I am suggesting you find an actual real life Muslim who does not support genocide.


I gave you one, and you sneer and jeer and dress it up as an innocent question - in typical FD fashion. Yes it was unbecoming of me to bring my family into it, but the blanket smearing you are doing is also unbecoming, and you should do better. The point I badly expressed should still be obvious: how many 3 year olds do you know support genocide? How many 3 year old muslims do you think there are? Its just absurd and demeaning, and I won't partake in this game. Like I said, the burden of proof is on you, not me. If you had been a little less (deliberately) insulting in the way you frame what could have been a legitimate question ("shouldn't muslims support genocide?"), I might have indulged you. But I will not dignify the incredibly offensive notion that genocide supporting should be deemed the default position of muslims, and that this is unquestioned truth until such time as I can present one who is not. If you tell me you can't see how absurd and offensive that is, and deliberately offensive, then I would say you are lying.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by polite_gandalf on May 14th, 2019 at 10:19am

Frank wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Islam wants to subjugate.
It doesnt want to coexist, it demands submission. That's  what jihad is about, that's  what the Koran and Mohammed are about.
Submit to Islam. That's all there is to Islam.

Well, fvkc that.


absolutely, never ever, on stilts.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by moses on May 14th, 2019 at 3:00pm
Sahih Muslim Book 41 Hadith 6985

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (Peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him;



Sahih al-Bukhari Book 56 Hadith 791

Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar:

I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, 'O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!' "


Both of these are part and parcel of islams' holy writings, teaching that muhammad told the muslims that the day will come when they will annihalate the Jews.

The unintelligent muslim cretins actually believe that stones will talk to them in those days of genocide against the Jews.

The extremist muslims don't back away from these teachings they revel in them, while the moderates lie and make excuses for this proof of the perverted death cult doctrine of islam.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 14th, 2019 at 7:41pm

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:19am:

Frank wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Islam wants to subjugate.
It doesnt want to coexist, it demands submission. That's  what jihad is about, that's  what the Koran and Mohammed are about.
Submit to Islam. That's all there is to Islam.

Well, fvkc that.


absolutely, never ever, on stilts.

Read the Koran, bozo. But you won't. Never ever. On stilts.

You have signed up to an oppressive, sinister creed. You have signed up to Moloch.






Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 8:52pm

Frank wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:19am:

Frank wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Islam wants to subjugate.
It doesnt want to coexist, it demands submission. That's  what jihad is about, that's  what the Koran and Mohammed are about.
Submit to Islam. That's all there is to Islam.

Well, fvkc that.


absolutely, never ever, on stilts.

Read the Koran, bozo. But you won't. Never ever. On stilts.

You have signed up to an oppressive, sinister creed. You have signed up to Moloch


The old boy's onto you, G. He once read the first two pages of the Holy Quran. He said it was a frightful old bore, understandably.

The old boy, you see, reads Kraut and some English. Arabic's still a bit of a mystery to him, the poor thing. He's a jolly NASBer.

He'll learn Pakistani eventually.

You?

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 14th, 2019 at 9:01pm

Mattyfisk wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:19am:

Frank wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Islam wants to subjugate.
It doesnt want to coexist, it demands submission. That's  what jihad is about, that's  what the Koran and Mohammed are about.
Submit to Islam. That's all there is to Islam.

Well, fvkc that.


absolutely, never ever, on stilts.

Read the Koran, bozo. But you won't. Never ever. On stilts.

You have signed up to an oppressive, sinister creed. You have signed up to Moloch


The old boy's onto you, G. He once read the first two pages of the Holy Quran. He said it was a frightful old bore, understandably.

The old boy, you see, reads Kraut and some English. Arabic's still a bit of a mystery to him, the poor thing. He's a jolly NASBer.

He'll learn Pakistani eventually.

You?



Clap hands, here comes Paki
Clap hands, good time Paki,
Clap hands, her comes Paki now.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Karnal on May 14th, 2019 at 9:46pm

Frank wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 9:01pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 8:52pm:

Frank wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 7:41pm:

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14th, 2019 at 10:19am:

Frank wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:03pm:
Islam wants to subjugate.
It doesnt want to coexist, it demands submission. That's  what jihad is about, that's  what the Koran and Mohammed are about.
Submit to Islam. That's all there is to Islam.

Well, fvkc that.


absolutely, never ever, on stilts.

Read the Koran, bozo. But you won't. Never ever. On stilts.

You have signed up to an oppressive, sinister creed. You have signed up to Moloch


The old boy's onto you, G. He once read the first two pages of the Holy Quran. He said it was a frightful old bore, understandably.

The old boy, you see, reads Kraut and some English. Arabic's still a bit of a mystery to him, the poor thing. He's a jolly NASBer.

He'll learn Pakistani eventually.

You?



Clap hands, here comes Paki
Clap hands, good time Paki,
Clap hands, her comes Paki now.


That'll win the multicultural dance contest for shure, old chap.

Rich tapestry, innit.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by aquascoot on May 15th, 2019 at 7:54am
Anning has recognised that , if you are an independant senator, all attention is good attention.

you want to be on the extremes because , as people become increasingly tribal, they will vibe with the most extreme.

so if you are a member of PETA and you want to progress, you want to be the most extreme

and if you are a green senator, you want to be the most extreme and outrageous.
SHY would have a bigger following then other green senators.

and if you are going up against multiculturalism (and plenty of people are) then you want to be the one who gets the most eyeballs.

anning getting egged might make the left smirk but it may well get him enough extra votes to get him over the line.
if SHY got egged, would her green voters be less likely to vote for her?
hardly.

i wouldnt be surprised if Anning got egged by a stooge who was his nephew and was a supporter.
if i was anning, i would pay someone to egg me every day.
i would pay someone to put a few rounds thru my front door.

its all about eyeballs now .
the fantasy entertainment industrial complex

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by xeej on May 15th, 2019 at 8:07am
Annings latest slogan,, "want a Muslim neighbor, vote Labor" with a picture of a muslim family with a dozen or so kids.

Anning is going straight for the jugular and thanks to eggboy he now has a platform.

Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Frank on May 17th, 2019 at 6:35pm

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
No religions "deserves" respect, certainly not on the basis of number of followers, particularly when that is achieved by rape evangelism and beheading apostates.

You claim to be critical of religion in general, but toss that out the window for Islam. The hypocrisy drips from your every post.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Really?  Oh, poor, poor, Freediver.   Are you offended that someone believes that Islam should be given a fair deal?   Numbers do command respect - a fact of life.  Something however, you refuse to accept.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)



Ask this question, cat-frightetingly idiotic Bwian, when  when Islam gives a 'fair deal' to the infidels.

Until then  - which is when hell freezes over - keep quiet about your bottomless idiocy.


Title: Re: Fraser Anning speaks out against Muslims.
Post by Brian Ross on May 17th, 2019 at 11:15pm

Frank wrote on May 17th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 9:59pm:

freediver wrote on May 13th, 2019 at 8:28pm:
No religions "deserves" respect, certainly not on the basis of number of followers, particularly when that is achieved by rape evangelism and beheading apostates.

You claim to be critical of religion in general, but toss that out the window for Islam. The hypocrisy drips from your every post.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Really?  Oh, poor, poor, Freediver.   Are you offended that someone believes that Islam should be given a fair deal?   Numbers do command respect - a fact of life.  Something however, you refuse to accept.  Tsk, tsk.   ::)


Ask this question, cat-frightetingly idiotic Bwian, when  when Islam gives a 'fair deal' to the infidels.

Until then  - which is when hell freezes over - keep quiet about your bottomless idiocy.




Oh, dearie, dearie, me.  Rolling deep into your private patch of mud at the little kiddies' playground, hey, Soren?  Enjoy yourself.  Your Islamophobia really does need treatment - badly.   ::) ::)

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