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Title: New donation page Folau
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm

The ICL has a link to donate to Israel Folau.

Already up to $1,370,120.22

Can you imagine the outrage from leftists if a muslim was sacked for saying poofters go to hell?

https://www.acl.org.au/donate_izzy

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:46am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

I have asked would he get this support of he was a Muslim....I dont think it got any replies...

we very much do have double standards and when its acceptable for a millionaire to go begging for donation so he can hire the very TOP QC without denting his fortune.......I couldnt be more disgusted...

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by PZ547 on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:28am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

WHAT? you mean I cannot criticise I have to agree at all costs.... I dont work like that....look at the venum spat out in this thread alone and now there are 3 threads on this guy....hes a millionaire...7 times over...and we have people here cheering and applauding him begging for more money all because he hates homosexuals....

I dont hate homosexuals..not one has ever done me any harm...NOT ONE...

you say God willing.....really? where in the bible does he HATE anyone?.....news to me...

I dont see this as a vote for Christianity.....the last time I looked TOLERANCE was one of the acceptable ideals of being a christian......and this campagne has not a thing to do with TOLERANCE<

this is about greed pure greed....

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:30am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

Cods is most certainly not the one being hateful here.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by PZ547 on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:30am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

Cods is most certainly not the one being hateful here.

Posts speak for themselves

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:32am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:30am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

Cods is most certainly not the one being hateful here.

Posts speak for themselves

Yes they do. And she is clearly challenging hatefulness.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Yadda on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:04am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

Can you imagine the outrage from leftists if a muslim was sacked for saying poofters go to hell?

Yes i can.

And many moslems are just not willing to wait for poofters go to hell,
they also kill them, and threaten to kill them too.

.....but not our 'Aussie' moslems, mind you.

All of our 'Aussie' moslems, are the tolerant moslems.

Scott Morrison, et al, won't allow the 'killer moslems' to come into Australia.

Honest!

/sarc off

.

"ISLAM ES PAZ"

IMAGE.....

Everyone knows that true ISLAM, is a religion of peace.

/sarc off

.

IMAGE.....

Ali Kadri - Islamic Council of Queensland vice-president,
features in The Mosque Next Door on SBS.

Quote:

"There's no underlying religious text or reasons why [moslems] go out and kill people......"

- Ali Kadri
------- >
https://www.northernstar.com.au/news/we-wont-stop-terrorist-attacks-by-blaming-islam/3259588/

.

polite_gandalf wrote on May 14^th, 2016 at 10:59am:

Quote:

"Peace summarises everything in Islam..."

Thanks Yadda - good quote. :)

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by PZ547 on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:06am

Hi Yadda :)

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Yadda on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:16am

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:32am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:30am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

Cods is most certainly not the one being hateful here.

Posts speak for themselves

Yes they do.

And she is clearly challenging hatefulness.

And cods is very tolerant too, .....of the followers of ISLAM.

Coz cods hates hate, ......if the haters are not moslems.

Deuteronomy 27:25
Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Psalms 7:11
God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.

Psalms 11:5
The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

Psalms 15:1
LORD, who shall abide in thy tabernacle? who shall dwell in thy holy hill?
2 He that walketh uprightly, and worketh righteousness, and speaketh the truth in his heart.
3 He that backbiteth not with his tongue, nor doeth evil to his neighbour, nor taketh up a reproach against his neighbour.
4 In whose eyes a vile person is contemned; but he honoureth them that fear the LORD. He that sweareth to his own hurt, and changeth not.

Psalms 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil:...

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:26am

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

mothra wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:30am:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:06am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Pot - Kettle

you're the one sounding hateful

Someone else taken over your ID lately?

Cods is most certainly not the one being hateful here.

Posts speak for themselves

you must spend more time reading your own posts pz.... as you think you do reading mine....GOD WILLING..I dont think so!

I do believe in karma...and like it or not these threads are spreading hate and fear and PANIC...

most have lost sight of what this is all about and now people think its ok for a multi millionaire to go begging for money to pay a top LEGAL...on a SITE CLEARLY FOR THE REAL IN NEED .. >:( >:(

he thumbed his nose at his employer.....is that what you want for all Australians?

.... you kid yourself if you think this is about FOS or freedom of religion...

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

GOD willing....seriously.... ::) ::)

not my god anyway...and I always thought of myself as a Christian....now I dont know! I am in shock to be honest....

GREED IS A SIN... Israel is not WITHOUT SIN>>

whos kidding who!

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:54am

Not bad for a legal defence estimated to only cost 500,000 dollars and is about a guy who owns 7 mill in property.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:05am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.

Don't forget, he plays rugby frequently on the Sabbath.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:10am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.

Don't forget, he plays rugby frequently on the Sabbath.

Hypochristian

(N) A person who states that they are a Christian, believe in Christian values, and may even preach the gospel, yet are hateful and unforgiving.

Such a person will often talk of the love of Jesus, will talk of morals, will talk of doing good, but will hold people to high expectations, may be judgmental, and extremely prideful.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:16am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

~~Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.~~

Who could fold you in half and stuff you up your own arse...... ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:20am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Woah!, watch out for the reverse karma.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:33am

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

Nah, I'd be saying sucked in as well.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:35am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

~~Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.~~

Who could fold you in half and stuff you up your own arse......

Oh, he's violent too, is he?

Interesting.

We're learning something new about this hypochristian every day.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:36am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:35am:

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:16am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

~~Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.~~

Who could fold you in half and stuff you up your own arse......

Oh, he's violent too, is he?

Interesting.

We're learning something new about this hypochristian every day.

Nah he's not that violent, Fuzzball is just being himself.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:40am

I notice bobby hasnt come in to support

Israels Greed Sin...

its not unlike bobbys death wish for crims..... ::) ::) when the Bible clearly says

Revenge will be mine I will repay.....

we cant have a bet each way.....

and Israel is not behaving like a true Christian he is behaving like a mere man who has many faults...

just like everyone he claims are sinners..

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:40am:

Bobby came in with this one, nothing more need be said.
I am glad I am none of those below.

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Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:03am

So I'm guessing you're a virgin?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:18am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:03am:

So I'm guessing you're a virgin?

That doesn't necessarily follow.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:21am

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:03am:

So I'm guessing you're a virgin?

That doesn't necessarily follow.

Have a think, it will.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:22am

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:03am:

So I'm guessing you're a virgin?

That doesn't necessarily follow.

Have a think, it will.

Am I allowed to root a wife.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:23am

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:22am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:03am:

So I'm guessing you're a virgin?

That doesn't necessarily follow.

Have a think, it will.

Am I allowed to root a wife.

Whose wife?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:23am

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:40am:

Bobby came in with this one, nothing more need be said.
I am glad I am none of those below.

he didnt mention intolerators. did he?/ I know I made that word up...it would fit too many christians I am thinking...

what about GREEDY PEOPLE>..does israel think they are sinners? nah why would he?..

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:36am

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:00am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:40am:

Bobby came in with this one, nothing more need be said.
I am glad I am none of those below.

Its not about him being greedy, its about truth justice and the Australian way, in dollar terms.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:41am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:23am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:22am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:21am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:18am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 11:03am:

So I'm guessing you're a virgin?

That doesn't necessarily follow.

Have a think, it will.

Am I allowed to root a wife.

Whose wife?

Curse the thought.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 1:29pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

They are afraid to complain when they get thrown off a building, so common sense would probably kick in and they would realise they do not even believe in hell and cannot possible get offended by it.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:12pm

This is a good time to reflect on our lives and give money.

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Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Gordon on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:26pm

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

This is a good time to reflect on our lives and give money.

Yeah I'm screwed. I'm an atheist and a former/retired but unrepentant fornicator.

I've never been much of a drinker but back in my party days I enjoyed the recreational drugs and I enjoy a spliff when I'm up at the beach house a few times a year.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Gordon on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:26pm

Pushing $2m now

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:34pm

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

This is a good time to reflect on our lives and give money.

Good idea.

GoFundMe

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:44pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

This is a good time to reflect on our lives and give money.

You are probably safe, the poofs will surely go straight to Hell.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Gordon on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:50pm

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

This is a good time to reflect on our lives and give money.

You are probably safe, the poofs will surely go straight to Hell.

I also rooted a married woman when I was single and I voted for Kerry Phelps in the election.

I'm screwed.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by xeej on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 3:00pm

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:50pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:44pm:

Gordon wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:26pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 2:12pm:

This is a good time to reflect on our lives and give money.

You are probably safe, the poofs will surely go straight to Hell.

I also rooted a married woman when I was single and I voted for Kerry Phelps in the election.

I'm screwed.

Its not looking good for you Gordon.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 3:04pm

Voting for Kerry Phelps. It's the ninth circle for you, old boy.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by John Smith on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 3:40pm

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:05am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:03am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:29am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:31am:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 7:47am:

Johnnie wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:35pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 25^th, 2019 at 9:02pm:

There is a clear message getting through here.
God willing.

when you HATE as much as you do beware what you wish for...karma has a funny way of coming back at you

Well said [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

He's a very greedy little man.

Plus, he eats prawns and has tattoos; not even a real Christian.

Don't forget, he plays rugby frequently on the Sabbath.

you mean he 'used to play rugby frequently on the Sabbath' ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by John Smith on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 3:46pm

Quote:

The Australian Charities and Not-for-profits Commission has been asked to investigate the Australian Christian Lobby over its role in helping Israel Folau raise more than a million dollars for his legal fight against Rugby Australia (RA).

Folau raked in more than $1.5 million in donations on Tuesday through a relaunched ACL fundraising platform, despite having a GoFundMe page banned on Monday due to a breach of the website’s terms and conditions.

It was also revealed on Tuesday that Australia’s largest crowdfunding platform, MyCause, also knocked back an initial request from Folau’s camp to relaunch his fighting fund.

The renewed support for Folau comes as Gillian Triggs, the former Australian Human Rights Commission president, said she believed it was important to protect the rugby union star's right to freedom of speech.

"I don't think employers should have that power [to sack someone] and I don't think that one should lose one’s job for putting a view in good faith that you have put, particularly as a reflection that could be a religious view," said Ms Triggs on ABC News.

“It is a very wide view. It encompasses a lot of us - we're all going to go to hell. I think it is really foolish and disproportionate to prevent him from preaching something that I think he probably believes quite deeply as a matter of religious expression."

A number of complainants, however, have confirmed to the Herald that they have raised their concerns with the charities commission over the fundraising role played by the ACL.

In a statement, the commission said it "expected all registered charities to meet their obligations under the ACNC Act and the Governance Standards".

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/rugby-union/charity-watchdog-could-investigate-australian-christian-lobby-over-folau-fundraiser-20190625-p5217h.html

:D :D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Fuzzball on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 3:55pm

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:28am:

WHAT? you mean I cannot criticise

Yes you can, but so can everybody else without you yapping on about 'Karma' etc because you don't agree......

And if you think that idiot Mothball won't jump on you in the future you're wrong.....she's just following Pessary, Arsie etc........

Freedom of Religion
Freedom of Speech

He has every right to voice his religious beliefs, without losing his career for doing so........

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 4:12pm

Wow.
People are scared. Investigations are starting. 😱

Amazing what money does....and gets done. Truly amazing.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 4:24pm

Quote:

He has every right to voice his religious beliefs,

Yep.

Quote:

without losing his career for doing so........

Self evidently...incorrect.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:04pm

I just put this on the site home page:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/index.html

Homofascism
June 26 2019

Homofascism: the belief that, in the interests of inclusiveness, people should lose their job for having an unpopular religious belief.

Support among the Australian public for Rugby Australia firing Israel Folau appears to be ultimately based on the view that his comments were 'not inclusive'. Rugby Australia cited a violation of it's inclusiveness policy in justifying excluding him from the game. The hypocrisy of supporting real harm (losing a job) in exchange for harm that cannot be demonstrated (statements about the afterlife) seems lost to such people. Alternatively, many people offer a technical, contractual justification. Ignoring that the contractual justification rests on an inclusiveness policy, this also fails the reciprocity test. If the situation were reversed and the majority of the population were reactionary, conservative and religious, would those who now support Folau losing his job on technical grounds also support someone losing their job for raising the ire of the majority by saying that gays don't go to hell? Probably not.

As well as the ethical hypocrisy, Israel Folau's firing raises many problems with freedom of speech and workplace discrimination. We could all face the situation of our employer demanding that we are, or must become, a full-time ambassador for the company we work for. They could then make all sorts of absurd demands, for example that we refrain from sharing our religious, political, sexual or other views with our friends, outside of work hours. In Israel's case this is compounded by the abuse of monopoly power. Folau cannot simply get another rugby union job without leaving the country. Rugby Australia has a monopoly on employment in Australia and is abusing that power to impose its preferred social and political points of view.

Israel Folau set up a gofundme account to raise funds for a legal challenge. This raised further controversy, mostly based on accusations of greed (because Israel could have sold off half his assets to pay the legal fees). The account was suspended by the gofundme website. Ironically, they cited their discrimination policy as justification. All donations were refunded. While gofundme will not support freedom of speech, they will raise funds for a kid who physically assaulted a senator (to be fair, the senator also had unpopular opinions, so at least they are consistent in that regard). The Australian Christian Lobby donated $100,000 and set up an alternative donation page, which raised over $1 million on the first day. This was a dramatic increase in the rate of donations via the gofundme website, and indicates that increased efforts to discriminate in the workplace on the basis of religion are generating significant pushback from members of the public who are religious or who value freedom of religion, freedom of speech or freedom of conscience.

Discuss (and where to donate)

Alan Joyce, CEO of Qantas, has been accused of pulling strings behind the scenes to get Folau fired. He recently denied the claims (after the public backlash), at the same time as publicly supporting Folau's firing on behalf of Qantas. Here is a previous article about a scam that Qantas appears to still be running in collaboration with its partner airlines. The scam works like this: Qantas staff reassure a passenger that certain baggage fees will not be charged. Partner airlines hold the customer to ransom at check-in and demand the fee on behalf of Qantas. They instruct the passenger to approach Qantas for a refund. Both airlines then deny responsibility for the mistake and no refund is issued. Thanks Alan for joining the morality police, but can you please stop defrauding your customers?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/qantas-american-airlines-last-minute-surprise-fees-check-in.html

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:22pm

Typical FD misrepresentation of the facts.

(Put that on the site home page...and expect no more from me on it.)

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:26pm

The home page is not for your wunaway efforts Aussie. Try putting it into a sentence.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:45pm

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:26pm:

The home page is not for your wunaway efforts Aussie. Try putting it into a sentence.

Okay.

That crap is typical of FD misrepresentation of the facts.

So....bung that up FD.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 10:32pm

What facts am I misrepresenting?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:16am

freediver wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 9:04pm:

Misleading bits highlighted.

Absurd bits in red.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:34am

Fuzzball wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 3:55pm:

cods wrote on Jun 26^th, 2019 at 8:28am:

WHAT? you mean I cannot criticise

He breached Rugby AU's Code of Conduct.

End of.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:10am

Let's see what the judge says, shall we?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:12am

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:10am:

Let's see what the judge says, shall we?

Commissioner.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:27am

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:12am:

Mr Hammer wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:10am:

Let's see what the judge says, shall we?

Commissioner.

Well, Conciliator first (they don't make decisions, though). Then a FWC Commissioner.

I would hope that he doesn't waste everyone's time and take it to the Federal Court.

However, he seems to be a massive attention whore, and the happy clappers are donating plenty of money to him, so maybe he will.

I suppose he needs to fill in the time between handing in his forms at Centrelink.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:52am

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

1. Folau made some remarks AR found were outside its Code of Conduct.

2. They counselled Folau to not do so while taking their money.

3. Folau made further comments AR found were outside its Code of Conduct.

4. They asked Folau to show cause.

5. He was granted all his rights under natural justice/procedural fairness.

6. He had a fair hearing.

7. AR tore up his Contract.

8. Folua is a multi-millionaire.

9. He went to GoFundMe seeking $M3 in support to feed Lawyers.

10. GoFundMe found his doing so was outside its Terms and Conditions.

11. ACL mounted a campaign for funds so Folau could feed Lawyers, now capped at $M2 and it is being successful.

The rest is speculative and is gilding the lilly.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm

I have not misrepresented any of the facts. Not being a spineless apologist for this attack on freedom of speech is not the same as misrepresenting the facts.

Nemo, is your earlier cartoon trying to imply that Folau is stepping on freedom of expression?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:20pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Using the "freedom of expression" notion to present views that hurt other groups, yes.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:25pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

But was his contract legal?

There are many types of illegal contracts.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:26pm

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:29pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

But was his contract legal?

There are many types of illegal contracts.

The Code of Conduct is legal, and he breached it.

That's why he was sacked.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:36pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Being an agent provocateur in falsely suggesting this is an attack on freedom of speech is the same as misrepresenting the facts.

OzPol is a good comparative. Just like you have Rules about what Members may say here and you are able to enforce them, the AR has its Rules about what its Members may say and it is able to enforce them.

You say that if 'I' don't like your Rules, no-one is forcing 'me' to stay here ~ if Folau does not like the AR Rules, no-one is forcing him to abide by them. He walks and does what he likes.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:37pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

But was his contract legal?

There are many types of illegal contracts.

The Code of Conduct is legal, and he breached it.

That's why he was sacked.

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:38pm

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:38pm:

Better text would have been:

"I don't agree with what you do and I'll defend to your death my right to stop you doing it."

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm

It is surprising to see so many leftists suddenly supportive of an employers right to circumscribe what an employee writes in a social media account. Not enough privilege points for Israel, like name like country. 8-)

He wasn’t criticising on commenting on anything to do with his employment, he just posted on his page widely accepted tenets of his religion and he can support them in scripture.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:45pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

He breached the Code of Conduct.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:47pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

All he had to do was NOT post that on his page as expected by AR Code of Conduct.

BTW...widely accepted tenets? If you mean widely accepted as part of the fire and brimstone OT, sure. If you meant the content is widely accepted as truthful, nah.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:47pm

When Izzy goes to court he will be asked to swear an oath on the bible.

For some reason he isn't allowed to quote this book.

As an atheist and reformed drunken fornicator who has been guilty of adultery I have no problem with izzy posting a meme.

It appears only the poofters are butthurt over what he posted.

Some poofter humour lol.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=6xxiK6Z4eXs

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:54pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

Widely accepted to any one who has a passing knowledge of Christianity that they are the beliefs of some Christians as I am sure even a dope like you could work out. ::)

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

He breached the Code of Conduct.

Some deep thinking there. ::)

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:00pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

When Izzy goes to court he will be asked to swear an oath on the bible.

For some reason he isn't allowed to quote this book.

He didn't quote the Bible.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights

Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

https://www.humanrights.com/course/lesson/articles-12-18/read-article-18.html

It's good to see Izzy can afford a real legal team instead of a taxi driver from the gold coast who pretends to be a lawyer. Little Pecca also claimed he was a lawyer with his previous sock Uncle Meat it turned out he was just a union clerk. Why do these leftards pretend to be lawyers?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:08pm

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:58pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:45pm:

Secret Wars wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:44pm:

He breached the Code of Conduct.

Some deep thinking there. ::)

No need to overthink it.

The Code of Conduct applies to everyone in the organisation, and he breached it.

It happens to people in other workplaces all the time.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:11pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

I've never claimed to be a lawyer, ever.

I studied law at university.

That doesn't make me a lawyer.

And, I've never been employed by a Union (I was a shop steward once, many years ago).

Finally, Uncle Meat wasn't a sock.

Let's see how many things you get wrong in your next post.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

But was his contract legal?

There are many types of illegal contracts.

The Code of Conduct is legal, and he breached it.

That's why he was sacked.

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Bump.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Baronvonrort on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:25pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

But was his contract legal?

There are many types of illegal contracts.

The Code of Conduct is legal, and he breached it.

That's why he was sacked.

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Bump.

The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:26pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:25pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:14pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:37pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:29pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:25pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:03pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 11:45am:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:22am:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 9:17am:

So it is your opinion I am misrepresenting, not the facts?

Nope. You are misrepresenting - gilding the Lilly so to speak - in the highlighted bits.

What are the real facts Aussie?

But was his contract legal?

There are many types of illegal contracts.

The Code of Conduct is legal, and he breached it.

That's why he was sacked.

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Bump.

The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia.

Lol ;D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:36pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:25pm:

The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia.

I shouldn't laugh. I apoligise.

Let's do this the proper way.

Here's Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

"Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance."

And here's the Rugby Australia Code of Conduct (under 'C'):

https://australia.rugby/about/codes-and-policies/all-codes-and-policies

So, which part number, on what page, violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Caveman on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:50pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:47pm:

EXACTLY!
Who else on that list is offended except the bloody fart sniffers.
That is what I believe is behind this movement for Folau.
Alphabet community have had their say. Australia has had enough.

Back in ya box and SHUT THE FARRRK UP POOFS AND ASSOCIATED LETTERS!

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Secret Wars on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:08pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

According to resident geniuses if you have a contract or it’s in the code of conduct then yes.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Had other things to do and in that time lost a long post I had half finished to address some of Mr Wars stuff. Out of context now.

To answer your question.....as if you could not answer it yourself (you do claim to have a brain don't you).......No.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

It's perfectly legal for an employer to sack an employee for breaching their Code of Conduct.

Happens all the time.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:15pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:36pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:25pm:

The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia.

Does anyone know where Baronvonrong got this idea from?

Is the fleecer posting that claim on social media or something?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:22pm

Not sure what you mean by that. He did post some crap on his social media page.

This on Instagram (whatever that it.)

Link.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:22pm:

Not sure what you mean by that. He did post some crap on his social media page.

This on Instagram (whatever that it.)

Link.

Baron claimed that:

"The code of conduct violates Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights therefore it's not legal in Australia."

I'm just wondering where he got that nonsense from?

Did he come up with it himself, or is it something that's being shared on social media, or reported in the news?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Raven on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

Article 18 protects not only the ‘traditional’ religious beliefs of the major religions, but also non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as the right not to profess any religion or belief. The right recognised in Article 18 is simultaneously an individual right, and a collective right.

It has both an ‘internal’ dimension (the freedom to adopt, hold or change a belief), and an ‘external’ dimension (the freedom to manifest that belief in worship, observance, practice or teaching).

While the internal dimension is absolute, the external dimension can be subject to certain limitations. Namely freedom to manifest one's religion or beliefs may be subject only to such limitations as are prescribed by law and are necessary to protect public safety, order, health, or morals or the fundamental rights and freedoms of others.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:49pm

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

Nobody is trying to deny the fleecer his human rights.

And, Rugby AU's Code of Conduct certainly doesn't violate Article 18 of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

I'm really not sure what Baronvonrong is going on about.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:52pm

Nice:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?attachments/folau-png.89771/

(Bloody size thing schits me! >:( )

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:

Nice:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?attachments/folau-png.89771/

(Bloody size thing schits me! >:( )

That link doesn't work properly.

It just goes to some forum - there's no picture (.png).

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:57pm

Now click on the link IN YOUR POST.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:58pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:56pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:52pm:

Nice:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?attachments/folau-png.89771/

(Bloody size thing schits me! >:( )

That link doesn't work properly.

It just goes to some forum - there's no picture (.png).

Now it says:

"You must be logged in to do that."

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Hi Aussie,
of course the answer is no and that is the example
often given to university students studying law.

It's an example of an illegal contract.

In the same way the court or even the High Court
may decide that a contract taking away your religious rights to
quote from the Bible is illegal.

Do you agree?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:57pm:

Now click on the link IN YOUR POST.

Only members can see whatever it is you're posting.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:09pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:10pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Raven on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm

One of those attacking the code this week was Sydney’s Anglican archbishop, Glenn Davies, who eloquently defended Folau’s “right as a citizen to speak of what he believes without threat to his employment”.

You know the same archbishop who compelled 34 Anglican headmasters and headmistresses last year to sign an open letter demanding the law allow them to sack gay teachers and expel gay students.

They want one rule for them and one for the rest of us. Folau is free as a footballer to vilify homosexuals without losing his job but were he coaching rugby at a Sydney Anglican school and tweeting approval of gays it might well see him shown the door.

In other words if you are demanding rights for yourself which you won’t extend to others, that’s not freedom. It’s privilege.

And we are all in this debarcle because Folau changed his mind. For a million bucks a year, he agreed to go easy on denouncing, among other vices, the evils of homosexuality. But why say yes in the first place if it's profound violation of his rights and his faith? And why does he expect more millions from Rugby Australia because he’s copped the ordinary consequences of going back on his word?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:49pm:

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:43pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:02pm:

Why are poofters and their supporters trying to deny Izzy his human rights?

Quote:

does that also include comparing skimperly clad women to a dish of cat meat?... ::) ::)

why do they not understand?.. ::) ::)

no one is stopping Folau preaching or saying what hes been saying...

if it is acceptable for Folau to post his beliefs on who should go to HELL....in the public marketplace..

then it will be ok for every Tom Dick and Harry to do the same thing?.....

all I know is IF a muslim dared to say all homosexuals will go to HELL...I can see a lynch mob.. :-/

and there would be no go fund me for them to hire a QC

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:13pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Israel Folau quoted directly from the Bible and
lost his job for it.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:14pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:13pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:10pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:08pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:06pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:02pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:13pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 2:03pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:57pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 1:56pm:

Is it legal to take a pound of flesh
as penalty for non payment of a debt?

Can you help Baronvonrong, Bobby?

How does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct violate Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights?

Answer my question.
I notice that Aussie is avoiding it.
( he's supposed to be a lawyer.)

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

let Aussie answer - you don't know.

Rugby AU's Code of Conduct doesn't take away anyone's rights to quote from the Bible.

So why are you persisting with this straw-man?

Israel Folau quoted directly from the Bible ...

First of all, no he didn't.

And secondly, show us the text in Rugby AU's Code of Conduct that takes away an employee's right to quote from the Bible.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:16pm

Raven wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:12pm:

good one raven whatever happened to Christianity it is nothing like I was brought up to believe in...

something about do unto others....

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Treat other people with the concern and kindness you would like them to show toward you. This saying has come to be called the Golden Rule.

it seems not to exist anymore... :(

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:19pm

bobs where does it talk about
drunks
fornicators
homosexuals...

not sure about the word liars...

as far as I know none of these words existed in days of yore....Folau is taking snippets and making a mountain out of them...

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:21pm

cods wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:19pm:

And 'Hell awaits you'.

I don't remember ever reading that in the Bible.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by cods on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:26pm

I dont even know what church he belongs too Israel I mean....is it one of the news fangled groups...who make up their own version of the bible.. :D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Mr Hammer on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:27pm

Are you siding with the luvvies, Cods?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:32pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Have we established that he can read?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:33pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

I've read the Bible twice, and I don't remember ever seeing that anywhere.

The closest thing to it would be Corinthians 6.9, I guess.

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

I can't find anything there saying that "Hell awaits you", or even a mention of the word "hell".

Moreover, I've read through Rugby AU's Code of Conduct, and there's absolutely nothing in there about restricting employees' religious freedoms.

In fact, the word 'religion' isn't mentioned in it at all.

Bobby, have you been drinking today?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:35pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:33pm:

nor abusers of themselves with mankind,"

Well that's open for some serious interpretation.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Raven on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:48pm

Galatians 5:19-21

19Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Or maybe Leviticus 11:10?

"And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination to you:"

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by PZ547 on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

The drinking and nights on the town as a young NRL player trying to fit in are way behind him. If he could he’d get rid of his large tribal tattoo across his right breast, shoulder and upper arm, and it’s not because he’s any less proud of his Tongan heritage.
The small tattoos of a clockface, a rose, a crucifix and rosary beads would go too

Images for Tongan tribal tattoos LINK Google Images

And why would anyone (looking at the idiot) imply Folau is unable to read -- apart from more of the idiot's bile in every direction, virtually every topic

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:54pm

BOBBY?????????????

WHERE ARE YOU BOBBY?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:59pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

Who gives a flying fuq about his tribe's rituals? He was born in Australia. That's his Tribe. It is HIS Bible which dictates the tatoos are taboo.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:02pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

And why would anyone (looking at the idiot) imply Folau is unable to read --

Well, he clearly didn't read Rugby AU's Code of Conduct.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by John Smith on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:04pm

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:10pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:59pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

Who gives a flying fuq about his tribe's rituals? He was born in Australia. That's his Tribe. It is HIS Bible which dictates the tatoos are taboo.

I'm guessing God doesn't like this sort of thing too much:

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:16pm

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

Ah. So the Bible is adaptable.

Thanks for that.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:19pm

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:16pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

Ah. So the Bible is adaptable.

Thanks for that.

The Bible is extremely adaptable.

There is a quote both for and against almost every situation known to Human kind. ;D

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:19pm

cods wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:26pm:

I dont even know what church he belongs too Israel I mean....is it one of the news fangled groups...who make up their own version of the bible.. :D

This one, I believe:

https://worldagfellowship.org/

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by mothra on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:21pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:16pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

Ah. So the Bible is adaptable.

Thanks for that.

The Bible is extremely adaptable.

There is a quote both for and against almost every situation known to Human kind. ;D

And if you're Catholic, you can do whatever you like, tell a priest about it and do it all over again!

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Captain Nemo on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:27pm

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:41pm

I wonder if Folau has read these very relevant texts?

Link.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:59pm

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:21pm:

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:19pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 4:16pm:

PZ547 wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:53pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:31pm:

mothra wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:28pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Is it Leviticus 19:28?

https://biblehub.com/leviticus/19-28.htm

Folau didn't read that one.

Thought we'd covered that, or at least I know I referred to it

Folau's tribal tattoos are discussed in this article in The AustralianLINK

Quote:

Ah. So the Bible is adaptable.

Thanks for that.

The Bible is extremely adaptable.

There is a quote both for and against almost every situation known to Human kind. ;D

And if you're Catholic, you can do whatever you like, tell a priest about it and do it all over again!

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:24pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

No problem Aussie -

1 Corinthians 6:9–10 English Standard version

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

Or the original version:

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 King James Version (KJV)

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Also check out:
https://caldronpool.com/israel-folau-slammed-for-quoting-the-apostle-paul-calls-for-him-to-be-sacked-for-believing-the-bible/

“Those that are living in sin will end up in Hell unless you repent,” Folau added in the caption. “Jesus Christ loves you and is giving you time to turn away from your sin and come to him.” The post ends with citations from Galatians 5:19-21, Acts 2:38, and Acts 17:30.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:29pm

Galatians 5:19-21 King James Version (KJV)

19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Acts 2:38 King James Version (KJV)

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Acts 17:30 King James Version (KJV)

30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:06pm

Captain Nemo wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:20pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Using the "freedom of expression" notion to present views that hurt other groups, yes.

So in the twisted mind of the homofascism apologist, putting your lucrative job at risk by standing up for your principles and speaking your mind is actually going after the money and trampling freedom of expression?

Do you think freedom of expression only covers those forms of expression that no-one can claim butthurt over?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:11pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:24pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 3:25pm:

Bobby...you love demanding that I answer your questions. Please cite that part of the Bible where it says:

Do you know what 'quote' means, Bobby?

And, where does the Bible say "Hell awaits you"?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:12pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

"His" quote is a meme....created by another and adopted by him.

Will he go to Hell for being covetous.....desirous of getting and holding material possessions Bobby? How shall he repent? Ten Hail Mary's and he carries on as if there was not a $M7 investment portfolio in his back pocket and a $M2 bank roll he went out of his way to solicit...so that he can keep what he covets...his material possessions, Bobby?

Oh let me at him FWC.........!!!!

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:14pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:36pm:

freediver wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 12:15pm:

It is an attack on freedom of speech Aussie.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:18pm

Is that all you can come up with.......a motherhood piece of drivel?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.

Now - do you agree that Folau lost his job for quoting directly from the Bible?

Also - as a lawyer is it possible that his contract was illegal?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:21pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.

"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:22pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

Aussie,
you wrote -
"that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby."

It clearly is a collection of quotes directly from the Bible.

No, it is not.

Where does the Bible say "Hell awaits you"?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:24pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.

"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.

Do you know the difference between 'quote' and 'interpretation', Bobby?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Bobby. on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:31pm

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:24pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:21pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

He didn't quote the Bible, Bobby.

Read it yourself.

"Hell awaits you" is nowhere to be found.

"shall not inherit the kingdom of God."

means going to hell.

Do you know the difference between 'quote' and 'interpretation', Bobby?

Oh, and where does Rugby AU's Code of Conduct mention 'religion'?

I haven't seen the contract but clearly Folau was sacked for
breaking that contract by
making quotes from the Bible.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by freediver on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:38pm

permanent location for homofascism:

http://www.ozpolitic.com/articles/homofascism.html

Quote:

Homofascism

June 26 2019

Homofascism: the belief that, in the interests of inclusiveness, people should lose their job for having an unpopular religious belief.
Support among the Australian public for Rugby Australia firing Israel Folau appears to be ultimately based on the view that his comments were 'not inclusive'. Rugby Australia cited a violation of it's inclusiveness policy in justifying excluding him from the game. The hypocrisy of supporting real harm (losing a job) in exchange for harm that cannot be demonstrated (statements about the afterlife) seems lost to such people. Alternatively, many people offer a technical, contractual justification. Ignoring that the contractual justification rests on an inclusiveness policy, this also fails the reciprocity test. If the situation were reversed and the majority of the population were reactionary, conservative and religious, would those who now support Folau losing his job on technical grounds also support someone losing their job for raising the ire of the majority by saying that gays don't go to hell? Probably not.

As well as the ethical hypocrisy, Israel Folau's firing raises many problems with freedom of speech and workplace discrimination. We could all face the situation of our employer demanding that we are, or must become, a full-time ambassador for the company we work for. They could then make all sorts of absurd demands, for example that we refrain from sharing our religious, political, sexual or other views with our friends, outside of work hours. In Israel's case this is compounded by the abuse of monopoly power. Folau cannot simply get another rugby union job without leaving the country. Rugby Australia has a monopoly on employment in Australia and is abusing that power to impose its preferred social and political points of view.

Israel Folau set up a gofundme account to raise funds for a legal challenge. This raised further controversy, mostly based on accusations of greed (because Israel could have sold off half his assets to pay the legal fees). The account was suspended by the gofundme website. Ironically, they cited their discrimination policy as justification. All donations were refunded. While gofundme will not support freedom of speech (or for that matter, a genuinely inclusive inclusiveness policy), they will raise funds for a kid who physically assaulted a senator (to be fair, the senator also had unpopular opinions, so at least they are consistent in that regard). The Australian Christian Lobby donated $100,000 and set up an alternative donation page, which raised over $1 million on the first day. This was a dramatic increase in the rate of donations via the gofundme website, and indicates that increased efforts to discriminate in the workplace on the basis of religion are generating significant pushback from members of the public who are religious or who value freedom of religion, freedom of speech or freedom of conscience.

Discuss (and where to donate)

Alan Joyce, CEO of Qantas, has been accused of pulling strings behind the scenes to get Folau fired. He recently denied the claims (after the public backlash), at the same time as publicly supporting Folau's firing on behalf of Qantas. Here is a previous article about a scam that Qantas appears to still be running in collaboration with its partner airlines. The scam works like this: Qantas staff reassure a passenger that certain baggage fees will not be charged. Partner airlines hold the customer to ransom at check-in and demand the fee on behalf of Qantas. They instruct the passenger to approach Qantas for a refund. Both airlines then deny responsibility for the mistake and no refund is issued. Thanks Alan for joining the morality police, but can you please stop defrauding your customers?

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by Aussie on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Aussie wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 6:32pm:

So...that meme is not a direct quote from the Bible at all is it Bobby.

Did Israel read this one?

Quote:

Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Me says he is a covetor of material things like money Bobby. You?

His quote from the Bible stands up to close scrutiny -
do you deny this?

I suppose he's guilty of liking material possessions
but that is a sneaky diversion by you!

Jayzuz you have a fuqqing hide Bobby. You ignore the prick's greed and keep crapping on with this schit.

Okay.....I'll answer. Fuqqed if I will ever be called a Bobby.

He did not quote from the Bible. He posted a meme created by another who made a cocktail of misquotes from the Bible, and one phrase, the Hell reference for which there is no direct reference. The Bible does not mention Hell.

There is no 'contract' Bobby. There is a Code of Conduct he accepted, and there is nothing illegal in that Code.

Ask yourself this Bobby.....if Folau did not have the profile RA gave him, and he was 'Aussie,' a nobody.....would we be having this discussion? Nah. This whole thing is BECAUSE he was an iconic marque poster boy RA player and he sought to exploit that.

RA did not give a rat's arse when he profited by supporting poofs or eating prawns. There was no breach then. In fact, what he did then was inclusive, supportive and RA would have applauded.

Title: Re: New donation page Folau
Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:39pm

Bobby. wrote on Jun 27^th, 2019 at 7:31pm: