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Greens could see 'big increase' in vote, like in Germany, Di Natale says :)

August 4, 2019
Sydney Morning Herald

Greens leader Richard Di Natale says there is a "real possibility" his party could see a big increase in votes, like Germany's Greens party which recently saw its vote double in just two years. :)

Senator Di Natale told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age he thinks there are "a lot of parallels" between the Australian and German situations. The Greens leader said both countries have witnessed a convergence between their two major parties alongside concern about climate change.

Greens leader Richard Di Natale says the election result was a "complete shock" to him.

"I can see that there's real possibility of the Greens seeing that big increase - a similar increase to the increase we saw in Germany," Senator Di Natale said.

The German Greens polled 9 per cent in the country's 2017 general election. In the recent European elections, they received a record 20.5 per cent, prompting headlines about a "Green wave". Political analysts say the German Greens' result can be explained by increasing concerns about climate change as well as the party's positioning as a "real alternative" to the parties of government.

Similarly, in Australia, the Greens are billing themselves as the "real opposition" in addition to their environmental campaigning. Senator Di Natale is scathing of Labor's recent support for the Coalition's tax package, which passed Parliament last month.

"Labor's approach at the moment is basically to give up on the position on opposition," Senator Di Natale said. "They are showing that they are closer to the Liberal Party than they are to the Greens."

While Labor wanted to make changes to the tax package, they did not get enough support in the Senate to pass their amendments.

At the 2019 election, the Greens captured 10.40 per cent of lower house first preferences, a slight increase on their 2016 result. In the Senate, it received 10.19 per cent of first preferences, with a swing of 1.57 per cent. It retained all six of its senators up for re-election. But despite hopes the party would increase its House of Representatives' count, it still only has one lower house MP.

In the wake of the election, the Greens have seen about a ten per cent spike in membership, adding more than 1700 new members. Senator Di Natale says this is "clearly a response to the election".

"For a lot of people the way to respond to what was for many of them a devastating result, was to actually take some action."

Labor sources say the party has also seen a post-election membership bounce of about six per cent. It is understood the ALP now has more than 60,000 members for the first time since the mid-1990s. The Liberal Party is also understood to have seen its membership grow by several thousand after the May 18 result.

Before the election, Senator Di Natale was preparing to negotiate with a Shorten Labor government to try to strengthen Australia's climate change response.

"The result was a complete shock to me, as I suspect it was as much to the Prime Minister."

Senator Di Natale said he had had an informal meeting with Scott Morrison since the election, but noted that "frankly, we don't see many areas of common ground".

"If at some point the Liberal Party recognise that they need to start acting on the breakdown of our climate, then we'd be very happy to begin a dialogue."

Asked what his party does from here on climate change, Senator Di Natale said: "We have to continue to work with the climate movement. And we will work outside the Parliament, as a party that is very connected to a number of groups [in the community]."

"This election was described as a 'climate election'. Every election from this point on will be a climate election. We're breaking record, on record, on record, [with] extreme weather, drought. And I think the community's only going to become increasingly concerned about the lack of action."

The Coalition plans to to cut greenhouse gas emissions by 26 to 28 per cent by 2030, based on 2005 levels. Labor has a target of 45 per cent, while the Greens are calling for a 63 to 82 per cent target. Environmentalists say the Greens' target is the only one consistent with keeping global warming below 1.5 degrees. Scientists say this level of warming must be met to avoid catastrophic impacts, including the destruction of the Great Barrier Reef.Greens could see 'big increase' in vote, like in Germany, Di Natale says

And we could also see the whole world turn into chocolate, but never stop hoping!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOziWm_MJ9k

Every now and again the Australian greens do come up with some good ideas. They are also a alternative to labor Tweedledee, and liberal Tweedledum. :)

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Greens could see 'big increase' in vote, like in Germany, Di Natale says

Greens leader Richard Di Natale says there is a "real possibility" his party could see a big increase in votes, like Germany's Greens party which recently saw its vote double in just two years. :)

Senator Di Natale told The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age he thinks there are "a lot of parallels" between the Australian and German situations. The Greens leader said both countries have witnessed a convergence between their two major parties alongside concern about climate change.

Greens leader Richard Di Natale says the election result was a "complete shock" to him.

"I can see that there's real possibility of the Greens seeing that big increase - a similar increase to the increase we saw in Germany," Senator Di Natale said.

The German Greens polled 9 per cent in the country's 2017 general election. In the recent European elections, they received a record 20.5 per cent, prompting headlines about a "Green wave". Political analysts say the German Greens' result can be explained by increasing concerns about climate change as well as the party's positioning as a "real alternative" to the parties of government.

They're not comparing like with like here. Results for elections for the European Parliament do not necessarily correspond with the results in European national elections. Same with state and Federal politics in Australia - different issues produce different results.

Doc Dick is facing extinction and so he beckons to the moon.

The next move for the almost extinct Greenies is to merge with the almost extinct Labor Party.

While I would not mind seeing an increased Green vote I can see no reason for it to happen. Particularly while the current Greens are so average and have little to offer.

It is so logical.

Both Labor and the Greenies are of no significance anymore and are surplus to requirements.

So why don't they amalgamate into one totally insignificant irrelevant nothing ?

and Shorty is getting ready to "lead" this seething rotting scungy brothel.

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Greens leader Richard Di Natale says there is a "real possibility" his party could see a big increase in votes, like Germany's Greens party which recently saw its vote double in just two years.

......the number of reffos doubled as well?

Swagman wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:12am:

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Greens leader Richard Di Natale says there is a "real possibility" his party could see a big increase in votes, like Germany's Greens party which recently saw its vote double in just two years.

......the number of reffos doubled as well?

Nope.

Quite the opposite, in fact.

....because now they'e citizens voting Green

Swagman wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:30am:

....because now they'e citizens voting Green

That makes no sense whatsoever.

.....you require both sides of the brain :D

Swagman wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

.....you require both sides of the brain :D

You were sooooo wrong about refugee numbers increasing, it's not funny.

And now you follow it up with absolute nonsense which makes no logical sense whatsoever.

You should have quit while you were behind.

juliar wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:55am:

We're discussing Germany.

Dnarever wrote on Aug 4^th, 2019 at 9:05pm:

While I would not mind seeing an increased Green vote I can see no reason for it to happen. Particularly while the current Greens are so average and have little to offer.

A few spectacular climate-related catastrophes might change people's minds. And that will have flow-on effects that will also play to the Greens platform - increased refugees, health crisis, economic downturn etc. That said, it will likely result in a rise in the far-right as well. Its possible that Australian politics (as well as in the west in general) will soon be dominated by both extremes.

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

.....you require both sides of the brain :D

....it makes sense. The Reffos aren't Reffos anymore.

They are green voting citizens. Your own stats back this theory.... :D

Swagman wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 2:15pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:41am:

Swagman wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:36am:

.....you require both sides of the brain :D

....it makes sense. The Reffos aren't Reffos anymore.

They are green voting citizens. Your own stats back this theory.... :D

They aren't asylum seekers anymore.

They're always refugees.

Poor Gweggy's mind has seen better days and he just can't understand what is happening anymore.

So he just keeps embarrassing himself.

His failing mind still can't understand the difference between Labor's country shopping illegal invaders who try to sneak into Australia because they could never pass the airport security check and the genuine people with identification who pass the airport security check.

Gweggy is very disappointed that Shorty did not get in and RESTART the BOATS!!!

Gweggy doesn't understand the first thing about Illegal Invaders and genuine refugees that Australia selects. He just trots out Labor slogans from 50 years ago.

juliar wrote on Aug 5^th, 2019 at 10:55am:

Yes Yes I know you have no idea of how to quit while you are behind.

DNA is shooting in the dark and like Gweggy has very little idea of what is going on.

Thank Goodness Dutto is in charge and STOPPING the BOATS otherwise we would be over run by Illegal Invaders.

Green could see a massive rise in their vote?

Err ...

whiteknight wrote on Aug 4^th, 2019 at 1:50pm:

Greens could see 'big increase' in vote, like in Germany, Di Natale says :)

And impact on the climate can be attributed to the increased voice of the Greens in Germany? In other words, what difference have Green policies made to the climate?? Anywhere.

Zero.

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