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Title: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:21pm
https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/unemployed-aussies-are-too-picky-employers-struggle-to-fill-roles-013300704.html?utm_source=Campaign_Monitor&utm_medium=Edm&utm_campaign=DailySnap_Newsletter&utm_term=DailySnap_Newsletter&ncid=dailysnapshotau_dailysnaps_yaptekbs7gs
"Employers are “screaming out” for workers but are struggling to find them, the Employment Minister has claimed, pointing the finger at applicants. Minister Michaelia Cash on Monday released the results of a survey from the Department of Employment which reported that nearly half (45 per cent) of employers had trouble recruiting in 2018. That was an increase on previous years. Around 60 per cent of recruiters looking to fill lower-skilled positions said they were struggling with jobseekers poor applications and presentation skills. The report also found some applicants were approaching the interview too casually and had poor communication skills, were less enthusiastic and dressed inappropriately. "We have an economy of opportunity and employers are screaming out for workers who are eager for a job," Cash told The Australian on Monday. "Our focus will always be to get people off welfare and into work. Taxpayers expect nothing less," she continued. "The Morrison Government strongly believes that the best form of welfare is a job." The report comes as Newstart, the unemployment benefit, occupies headlines. Cash last week said 78 per cent of those on Newstart have been suspended at least once in the last year for not showing up to jobs or interviews and for not looking for work. She said the figures show the system works as people resumed looking for work after the punishment. “It's all about ensuring that, as an unemployed person, you're either actively looking for work ... or, alternatively, you're participating in an activity that will help you into employment," she told 2GB radio. However, the Australian Council of Social Service (ACOSS) chief executive Cassandra Goldie said perspective was required. "I hope the minister understands that when you have the kind of findings that she's released today, it is the system that's the problem, and the automation has become brutal for people." The latest jobs figures from 18 July found that 500 jobs were created in Australia in June, an unexpectedly small amount. The unemployment figure is also stagnating at 5.2 per cent. The underemployment rate - or number of people who aren’t working as many hours as they would like - is also stuck at 8.2 per cent, something Labor’s employment spokesman Brendan O’Connor condemned. “There are more than 1.8 million Australians looking for work, or more work, but unable to find it," O'Connor said. "The Reserve Bank, backed by economists and state governments, has implored the government to lift investment in infrastructure to give the economy a shot in the arm, but the government has failed to act.” Absolutely a laugh a minute this LNP 'government'... |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Dnarever on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:40pm Quote:
Maybe if they work out that low skilled jobs won't attract high skill applicants ? Though I would be willing to bet that more than half of the problem is that they are telling a pack of lies there is no shortage of job applicants at all. These would be the same employers and employer groups who were telling lies about penalty rates. No credibility at all. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Dnarever on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:45pm Quote:
Here is an example of the perfect low paid worker, people this stupid are not easy to find. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 5th, 2019 at 8:06pm
This from a government with 43 ministers out of.. what was it? 78 seats or something? So bloody top heavy it will roll over at the slightest wave ...
We need an assistant minister for superannuation? Or for that matter a minister for superannuation? The same party group that lambasted 'feather-bedding' for workers.... |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 5th, 2019 at 8:08pm Dnarever wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:45pm:
Maybe they couldn't afford the train fare to get there... imagine the kind of person who would crow over taking money from the poorest in the land..... No wonder Howard stole the guns.... |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:28pm
It is all because of the self entitlement crap their Greeny teachers fill their heads with at school.
So when they leave school they expect to be looked after and work is not part of their vocabulary. Hence employers don't want them and much prefer to hire Asians and foreigners instead as they have a work ethic. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by crocodile on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:41pm Quote:
Sounds like low skills. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by xeej on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:48pm
Let the dole bludgers bludge, there are only enough jobs to go around.
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Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:13pm Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
Dole bludgers need to practice denizen xeej's work ethic. Xeej works harder with his tongue and lips than with his hands and mind. Productivity rises at xeej's workplace when xeej is absent because there are fewer mistakes. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:30pm
LarfTillUFart excels again.
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Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by xeej on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:44pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:13pm:
I don't know about that. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:55pm Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:44pm:
xeej evidently doesn't work in the knowledge industry. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 5th, 2019 at 10:56pm
LarfTillUFart excels again. Is he on NewStart ?
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Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bobby. on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:01pm Johnnie wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:48pm:
And that is just how employers like it so that they can screw employees knowing that another job is almost impossible to get. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:12pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:01pm:
Bobbi, nearly every one of your posts is hypocritical according to your own philosophy: “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bobby. on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:32pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:12pm:
It wasn't an extraordinary claim - it's common sense. |
Title: Re: Employers too choosy.... Post by Bam on Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:20am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 7:21pm:
What scrutiny has been placed on the recruitment methods of these employers? Some examples of recruitment methods that don't work that employers are known to use: * Putting a job ad on their Facebook page for a day or two. Why no takers? * Putting a handwritten notice on their shop window. That sometimes works but often doesn't. * Employers being far too picky about applicants. Sooner or later they'll understand that dressing "appropriately" is not always possible when unemployment benefits are among the lowest in the OECD while housing costs are among the highest. And the role doesn't specifically need "5 years" of experience. If an applicant has 4 years of experience, don't spurn them, interview them! What works: * Recruitment at central locations such as popular websites. * Jobs fairs. * Employers not being as picky about applicants. It's pretty clear that the lazy Thatcherite bogan muppet "Minister" hasn't given any consideration to scrutinising employers more closely. Nor has she spent any time at all meeting with long-term unemployed workers. She's just doing her usual blame-the-victim rubbish while remaining clueless and incompetent. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Laugh till you cry on Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:22am Bobby. wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 11:32pm:
That is an extraordinary claim. Bobbi is victimizing himself with his own philosophy. It's like shooting yourself in the foot deliberately to distract and divert. |
Title: Re: Employers too choosy.... Post by Valkie on Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:42am Bam wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:20am:
We tried to fill three low skilled store positions earlier this year. Of the 85 applicants, we chose 8 for interviews for several reasons. Applications that were obviously nothing more than a churned out response, sometimes even with incorrect details such as who we were. Applications that had incorrect or no contact details, how do we contact them? Zero responses when we contacted them, some were even quite rude. Of the 8 we managed to contact, only 2 turned up on time, 2 were even no shows. We employed 1, the rest were a waste of our time. One even old us we were thieves for trying to employ him at a low wage, he wanted more than our trades people. We filled the jobs with a disabled person, who works well and an older gentleman, who was bored on his pension. When we employ now, we respond to every single applicant. Responses are sent to centerlink. And, not one abbo has ever applied for any jobs we have offered. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 6th, 2019 at 5:54am
'Ere, 'ere! Who changed my title?
Nice to see that 'you' modified your approach... BTW - what kind of jobs were these? |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:54am
The conundrum for the Lefties is that Mrs Cash is telling the TRUTH. She should know what is actually happening on the ground.
The Lefties know what is happening at Centrelink. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 6th, 2019 at 10:20am
Something doesn't add up. Here the ALP Mrs Swanson cries how tough it is and so on.
If this was true you would think the dole bludgers would be eager to get a better paying job. But they don't make any effort at all and just go thru the required and then walk away. Over the Hill old timers face age discrimination when asking for a job. Newstart $277.85 a week benefit is too low to make ends meet to get back into workforce Meryl Swanson MP JULY 31 2019 - 7:00AM Meryl Swanson MP says the 'Newstart' allowance is too low. "So low that people can't afford the clothes, transport and basics they need to get back into the workforce." I can't imagine what it's like to live on $277.85 a week. Rent, petrol, groceries, school supplies, phone and internet bills, electricity, water - these things all add up and in my two-adult, two-children household, they add up to well over $39 a day - the amount of money that someone on Newstart receives. Newstart is the name of Australia's unemployment benefit. Australians over 22 years may be eligible if they can prove they're unemployed, looking for work, not on strike and own under a certain amount in assets. Half of the people on Newstart are 45 or older, one-quarter has an illness or disability and more than 100,000 people are single parents. Out of the 20 electorates with the most people on Newstart, more than half are in regional areas of Australia. Newstart is too low. So low that people can't afford the clothes, transport and basics they need to get back into the workforce. A study of over 500 Newstart recipients recently revealed that more than half skip more than five meals a week and almost all didn't turn their heater on in winter. In the same survey, one respondent even said when times were tough, they showered once a week to save money. If the dollar amount of welfare is forcing Australians into poverty, that amount is too low. Since we returned to Parliament in July, the rate of the Newstart Allowance has popped up a lot. Not only in the media, but also in the senate where a motion was passed calling on the Government to increase the $277 a week amount. Unfortunately, this won't happen unless the Liberal-National Government pass it in the House of Representatives. The prime minister and the treasurer have made it very clear they won't let that happen. Why? Because they say "the best kind of welfare is a job". [color=#0000ff]In parts of the electorate of Paterson - which covers Kurri Kurri, Maitland and Port Stephens - the unemployment rate is almost double the national average. So while most Newstart recipients in our community would like a job, they can't get one even when they try. It's reasonable to ask how Australia compares to other nations to track how we're doing with welfare payments. But it isn't good news. On average, we're spending less than half of what similar countries spend on employment services behind nations like the UK, Canada, Korea, the US, Portugal and Japan.[/color] This week it was revealed that "Nationals MPs have defied the prime minister by secretly conducting their own costings on boosting the Newstart allowance". Not only does the Labor party believe Newstart is too low, so too does the Government's own party members. https://www.cessnockadvertiser.com.au/story/6298646/newstart-benefit-too-low-to-make-ends-meet/?fbclid=IwAR12OGrANONZIOG9fmEkj0zbQMSpYthU-hU2nY44P8zSjCY9zsP6m2tovec |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bam on Aug 6th, 2019 at 4:26pm |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by stunspore on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:34pm
Recent articles state the answer is no.
But the truth never topped the Coalition anyway. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Dnarever on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:36pm crocodile wrote on Aug 5th, 2019 at 9:41pm:
Yes exactly what they were looking for ? |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bam on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:53pm Dnarever wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 8:36pm:
They're probably still thinking that Jobactive is actually useful. It isn't. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Dnarever on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:22pm juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:54am:
If she had any idea of what she was talking about she would not be yabbering so much garbage. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 7th, 2019 at 10:55am
Now DNA can't deny this.
Something doesn't add up. The ALP Mrs Swanson cries how tough it is and so on. If this was true you would think the dole bludgers would be eager to get a better paying job. But they don't make any effort at all and just go thru the required and then walk away. Over the Hill old timers face age discrimination when asking for a job. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:06am juliar wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 9:54am:
She should, but she doesn't. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:15am
Gweggy you shouldn't be so choosy.
But as you are over the hill you can't be too choosy. Wouldn't it be better to take a job that pays more than Newstart ? Then why don't the dole bludgers ? |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:13pm
Cowra Meat Works needs people.
On 2GB right now. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by xeej on Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:59pm Laugh till you cry wrote on Aug 6th, 2019 at 12:22am:
What do you find extraordinary about the claim? |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bam on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:43pm juliar wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:13pm:
The Howard government wrecked the employment market in Australia the moment they smashed the CES. If the CES was still around, employers could advertise in the morning, be interviewing that afternoon and starting the new workers the next day. Now we have the Jobactive failure that wastes billions to do far less than the CES used to do. Notice how little the current incompetent government is really doing to connect workers to jobs? What little they do is geared towards lining the pockets of their mates. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 8th, 2019 at 1:29am juliar wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:13pm:
Funny thing - the sister's boyfriend had a job at a meat works out West.. he was finished up in two weeks and came back saying, "They only want to keep Islanders and such who will bend the rules to earn a buck or two - they don't like real Aussie workers who expect to play fair and by the rules." Funny that..... must be the secret behind our real open borders to all losers... |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Ye Grappler on Aug 8th, 2019 at 1:29am greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 11:06am:
She has no connection with the truth - she and the truth are undergoing a trial separation.... |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bam on Aug 8th, 2019 at 10:35am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 1:29am:
It is time to wean unscrupulous employers off the teat of black market labour. They're the ones driving down the wages of everyone else. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bobby. on Aug 8th, 2019 at 12:47pm Johnnie wrote on Aug 7th, 2019 at 1:59pm:
The low dole money is there to scare the hell out of people so they become obedient workers who are eager to bend over and take it from the boss. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by juliar on Aug 8th, 2019 at 2:51pm
If the dole was so terrible then why do the dole bludgers make no effort to take jobs being offered ?
It all sounds like a Greeny Labor beat up. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Aug 8th, 2019 at 3:04pm juliar wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 2:51pm:
There are a lot of reasons a job is unsuitable that arent mentioned int he article. eg: 1: Too far to get to and/or outside public transport hours 2: Not enough hours to cover the cost of transport 3: Expected to work weekends without penalty rates 4: Employer expects too much (eg 5 years experience or soemthing) Those are just some of the reasons - its not like those online job seeker places send you to suitable jobs Spot |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Dnarever on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:05pm juliar wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 2:51pm:
Your dole bludgers are a fiction and you would know nothing about the effort put in. Just more right wing lunacy. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by rhino on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:51pm
employers expect too much sometimes, I have come to believe the average worker in Australia is a bit less than average on the IQ front, thats just the way it is. Between meth, steroids and energy drinks that they all seem to guzzle constantly, a diet of junk food and a lifetime of avoiding any physical labour has turned the average young Australian into a mentally unstable, selfie snapping, out of shape emotional retard.
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Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Dnarever on Aug 8th, 2019 at 10:03pm rhino wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:51pm:
And then there is the other absolutely normal 98.5% of them. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by Bam on Aug 8th, 2019 at 10:06pm rhino wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 9:51pm:
Like requiring applicants to have completed a Certificate IV in Retail to take an entry-level job at the minimum wage serving customers in a shop. Employers are asking for more and more qualifications but aren't willing to pay for them. Not through higher rates of pay, not through education levies, nothing. |
Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by rhino on Aug 8th, 2019 at 11:21pm Dnarever wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 10:03pm:
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Title: Re: Dole Bludgers too choosy.... Post by rhino on Aug 8th, 2019 at 11:24pm Bam wrote on Aug 8th, 2019 at 10:06pm:
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