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Title: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 11th, 2019 at 7:28pm
With this forum going understandably quite and another threat I was chatting in here, it got me thinking about my favourite conspiracy theory.
After all, that's what drew me to this subforum in the first place. To me, a good conspiracy first has to be something that can't be easily disproven, like the Flat Earth, Chemtrails, the idea of "False Flag attacks" or QAnon and has just enough plausibility that under the right circumstances it could be true. So what are your favourite conspiracy theories? Mine would have to be 9/11, but not how you probably think. The conspiracy theory goes that the hijackers really did take control of the planes and fly them into the towers etc, the conspiracy theory comes in to play in the aftermath, where the Government are so embarrassed that under their watch they didn't even know it was happening until it was too late, exposing the massive security vulnerabilities under their watch that THEY were the ones who started the conspiracy theories that it was an inside job. They did it to hide their incompetence! True or not it is my favourite. To me it seems far more plausible than an actual inside job, with the building being brought down using controlled demolition and the secret being kept in even that era of leaks to the press etc, and it would help the Government and the country, in general, save face after such a humiliating admission that it was a legitimate attack and none of the agencies even saw it coming. QAnon, while easily disprovable is extremely fascinating and terrifying at the same time, and ranks in at a close 2nd. Anyone else got any favourites? |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by John Smith on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:39pm
my favorite is the global conspiracy from the left .... apparently ongoing for well over 50 yrs now, and affecting every social policy across the world ........... and still mostly undiscovered. Those guys running that must be absolute geniuses :D :D :D
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by AiA on Aug 12th, 2019 at 1:53am John Smith wrote on Aug 11th, 2019 at 8:39pm:
My favourite is that John Smith is actually a cancer of the vulva who grew legs. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by cods on Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:09am
I detest them all....
they are only for the gullible ::) |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:15am
I'd have to agree with you there, but the psychology of it all is very interesting.
How people fall victim to it and how hard it can be to help them recover from it. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 12th, 2019 at 11:26am
My favourites would be David Ickes theory about reptile people and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion
David Ickes because its so laughably hilarious. Something like 9/11 has no evidence, but it FEELS like it could be true just because the US government have done dodgy crap in the past. The Protocols since its been repeatedly proven to be a hoax but people still trot it out even now. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by John Smith on Aug 12th, 2019 at 5:47pm AiA wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 1:53am:
you dreaming about me again are you! |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 12th, 2019 at 5:54pm
My favourite two are that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone and that the Nazis killed 6 million plus Jews.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:19pm Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
Holocaust denial? Really... I mean, it's a conspiracy theory I suppose, but, I can't really think of another that is more telling about the beholder than that but those that come close are in the same vein... oof |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:26pm
I'm not a holocaust denier. I read an article that stated that the settlers of Australia killed 20 million Aborigines. I don't believe that. That doesn't mean I don't believe they didn't kill thousands of Aborigines. Careful with the strawman, luv.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:34pm Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:26pm:
So what you're saying is that you feel, based on your opinions, that the official record of events is wrong, because it suits you? Or you just find the conspiracy intriguing, much like myself and the version of 9/11 conspiracy that interested me. I don't for a second believe it to be true, but it is, "my favourite". I don't want to jump to the wrong conclusion about you sweetheart, just asking. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Frank on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:35pm
Conspiracy theories about the rise of the right are becoming ever more fanciful and the language in which they are expressed ever less temperate. Frank Figliuzzi, a former FBI assistant director no less, attacked Trump in a TV interview last week for announcing flags would be flown at half-mast until August 8 as a mark of respect for the victims of two mass shootings.
“That’s 8/8,” said Figliuzzi. “The numbers eight and eight are very significant in the neo-Nazi and white supremacist movement … The letter H is the eighth letter in the alphabet. So, for them it stands for ‘Heil Hitler’.” The conviction that America’s 45th president is on the verge of becoming America’s first fuhrer is no longer confined to the fruitcake fringe. Tony Blair’s former media adviser, Alastair Campbell, accused Trump of “doing that stuff” Hitler did on the ABC’s Q&A last month. “I’m not saying he’s going to go out and kill six million people. I’m saying the seeds of fascism are being sown.” The exaggerated rhetoric betrays a sense of despair on the progressive left that its message is not cutting through. The gospel of wokeness remains unappealing to most of the voting population, whose concerns are of a more practical kind. The haste to adopt conspiracy theories to explain the right’s success is a sign of a strengthening paranoia among the people who depend on The Saturday Paper to reinforce their prejudices. The rate of rhetorical inflation means to be described as a mere conservative is almost a term of endearment. The left’s real enemies occupy a sliding scale from hard right to far right to extreme right. Beyond that one steps into the domain of fascism, an increasingly crowded place these days as the entry bar slips lower. Titania McGrath, the fictional creation of comedian Andrew Doyle and pseudonymous author of the book Woke: A Guide to Social Justice, rejoices that the word “Nazi” has been broadened to include “anybody who voted for Brexit, has ever considered supporting the Conservative party or refuses to take The Guardian seriously”. As a consequence, she writes, “there are now more Nazis living in modern Britain than even existed in 1930s Germany”. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:49pm SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:34pm:
Not at all. I disagree with the official record because there is so much contrary evidence I find more compelling. Governments and media have been known to lie. That's not a conspiracy theory; that's history 101. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by miketrees on Aug 12th, 2019 at 9:59pm
Jesse Owen was a guinea pig for steroid use
Usd to humiliate Hitler st the 36 games Dennis Conners threw the Americas Cup so he could take it to his home port |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:30am
There are some great ones, I might have to change my top 10...
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:43am Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 5:54pm:
We aid your favourite conspiracy theories, not favourite records of fact |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:55am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:43am:
I have never really been into conspiracy theories but that 6 million number isnt even possible Spot |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 13th, 2019 at 8:04am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:43am:
They are conspiracy theories. Governments, media and stupid people conspiring together to falsify history. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:02am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 7:55am:
Why? |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:02am Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 8:04am:
So evidence to dispute this and go. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:04am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:02am:
Google the world population at that time and work it out yourself Spot |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:05am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:04am:
It was about 2.3 billion, so less than 1% of the population. Again, why? |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Sir Spot of Borg on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:50am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:05am:
There werent 6 million jews - at least not in and around germany Spot |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 13th, 2019 at 10:08am Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:50am:
They were from all over Europe - not just Germany. There was close to 10 million Jews in Europe at the start of the war. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:08pm Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 9:50am:
Ukraine had 840,000 Jews in 1959, a decrease of almost 70% from 1941 (within Ukraine's current borders) So by 1941 there were 2.7 million Jews in Ukraine alone. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:10pm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_during_World_War_II
The estimated pre-war European Jewsih population was nearly 10 million. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:27pm
Epstein is still alive.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:30pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:27pm:
Please, just no. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:39pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:30pm:
I heard it this morning from a reliable source. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:41pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:39pm:
A reliable source - it_is_the_moron? ::) |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:44pm greggerypeccary wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:41pm:
Master Light - if you please. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:01pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 12:44pm:
He's a source I'll give them. Reliable, about as far from it as humanly possible. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:27pm
So the Clintons faked his death, to get him into real protective custody so he can give evidence against Trump.
Knew it. #confirmed. All this talk of Trump having a plan and bringing on the Storm was simply a distraction to hide the truth, who the real white hats are, it's THE CLINTONS! They've just been letting Trump take as much rope as he wants, over and over, and it starting to tighten around his neck! All the missing money from their foundation has been going into finding and exposing the deep state and the elites who have been shunning Trump but he always wanted to be a part of. It all makes sense now! KangAnon is back baby! |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:35pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:01pm:
He is responsible for more conspiracy theories posted in this Fringe section than anyone else. None have been disproven yet. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bobby. on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:36pm SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:27pm:
master Light has spoken Quote:
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:45pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
Fixed |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:32pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:35pm:
None, other than flat earth, chemtrails, his Alien contact threads, fakes images from "ancient Egypt", the false flag attacks, anti-vaxxing, juicing, Hillary Clinton already being executed, yet still how running for office - zombie president!, moon landing, JFK juniour still alive, his threads about prominent women that he disagreed with politically being born men, and some of those he even debunked himself, like the flat earth and then his solar watch thread can't coexist. But sure, none have been disproven... What can be said with confidence is that none have been proven. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Zen Kangaroo on Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:37pm Bobby. wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:36pm:
I knew it, the Clintons were the White Hats after all and Trump has been the target of the storm from day 1. What better way to stop him being a flight risk than to lose the election and get him stuck in the Oval Office while they continue to work behind the scenes with the resources of their foundation, stacking his administration with incompetent boob after incompetent boob that Trump never bothered to vet until there was enough public outcry to limit the damage he could inflict while the case was being made against him. Q is probably Chelsea stringing along the mouth breathers getting them all riled up but at the last minute will shift their gaze back onto Trump. Brilliant! Every dog has its day! The storm IS coming after all! |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by John Smith on Aug 13th, 2019 at 4:41pm SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 13th, 2019 at 3:27pm:
;D ;D ;D |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by miketrees on Aug 14th, 2019 at 11:29pm
Maybe JFK was killed by a fantasticly rich Greek tycoon that fancied his wife
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by mothra on Aug 18th, 2019 at 5:31pm |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by UnSubRocky on Aug 30th, 2019 at 4:59pm SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 6:19pm:
It is not Holocaust denial. It is called "revisionism". You can say that there were not 6 million Jewish people killed during the Nazi regime, and not be considered a denialist. A considerable number of people have trouble trying to understand how 2/3rds of the European Jewish population can be killed off within 12 years of the Nazis in power. That is 500,000 Jewish people per year dying of unnatural/premature causes. I find it difficult to think that 100,000 people could die prematurely from persecution over a 50 year period. But, I highly doubt that 500,000 deaths (or people going missing) can be unnoticed each year for 12 years, until the Soviets discovered this. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 30th, 2019 at 6:12pm
The Red Cross put the figure at a quarter of a million. As far as 6 million Jews being killed in the last year and a half of the 'final solution'; there just isn't the evidence to support that.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by KangAnon on Aug 30th, 2019 at 7:30pm
The Red Cross accept the 6 million death toll.
They have said that ~270k number was only a fraction of the death toll. You're quoting a Facebook meme that you never bothered to fact check. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 30th, 2019 at 7:43pm
Actually, petal, I don't know of any such meme. My knowledge of Red Cross' current position might be out-dated. Either way, I still haven't seen any evidence to support 6 million Jews being killed. Concordance amongst Jewish historians, notwithstanding.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 30th, 2019 at 7:48pm SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 7:30pm:
If you look it up everybody concedes that nobody really has an accurate figure. There's a few arguments. One is that many died in camps from disease and weren't exterminated. The other is that many non jews are contained in these figures. I've read investigations into the holocaust where many historians put the figure between 500,000 and 6 million. Considering the politics surrounding sympathy for the founding of Israel and post war legal proceedings against certain countries there was definitely a reason to fudge these figures. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by greggerypeccary on Aug 30th, 2019 at 7:54pm Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 6:12pm:
Incorrect, as usual. Not sure why you bother. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by KangAnon on Aug 30th, 2019 at 8:05pm
Ok, so there was a viral Facebook post that claimed that Red Cross documentation showed 271,000 people died in Nazi concentration camps, rather than the widely accepted figure of around six million.
If you type out the link they cite as evidence in the meme it takes you at an article that includes a 1979 document which it claims lists the true concentration camp death toll. In fact the documentation from 1979 shows the number of death certificates that had been issued for prisoners in 13 Nazi concentration camps. The number of death certificates represents only a fraction of the total death toll for various reasons because there were over 1200 sites that executed the prisoners. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) have stated, “The ICRC accepts the Holocaust as fact and does not dispute in any way the official number of lives that were lost.” After the Second World War, an organisation called the Special Registry Office based in the German town of Bad Arolsen was authorised to formally issue death certificates for prisoners of Nazi concentration camps. The Special Registry Office (which still operates today) primarily draws upon the collections of the International Tracing Service (ITS) which maintains an archive on victims of the Nazis. The International Committee of the Red Cross (ICRC) managed the ITS until 2012 (hence the link between the Red Cross and these figures). No single data source holds an authoritative estimate for the number of Jews murdered during the Holocaust, but six million is an accepted rough estimate. This does not include non-Jews systematically murdered during the Holocaust such as the Roma and disabled people. The problem is that the sources that push the claim that the death doll was a fraction of what is accepted all stem from anti-Semitic groups claiming to be legitimate but are just pushing their standard message. The number is false, the Jews are lying, what else are they lying about, did the holocaust even happen? That's how it always goes and sadly this time, despite the please of accuracy and intellectual pursuits, it's still the same whether you realise it or not, or are a willing participant or not. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 30th, 2019 at 9:16pm
I read about the Red Cross disputing the '6 million' figure about 5 years ago. Shove the viral meme thing up your lily-livered a.r.s.e.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by KangAnon on Aug 31st, 2019 at 8:36am Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 9:16pm:
It doesn't matter where you read it, the number was never a total count of the death toll and the Red Cross themselves have had to come out and correct the record because the misinformation spread like wildfire through the expected communities. I don't care where you saw it from. People with an agenda to push took it out of context and those reading it were too quick to accept the opinions these people, you know because it gelled with their internal biases. Holocaust revisionism is just another chapter entitled "How to deny the Houlacost openly in public" from the same book the deniers use. Edit: Full Disclosure, my grandfather was Jewish. He renounced his faith, changed his name and fled to Australia after the war. I've always gone to him with questions since our Primary and even High School history classes left a lot of information out and he taught me how to find out more information on this and many other subjects. Before the Internet, we'd go to libraries etc, there were a lot more resources in Melbourne back then. I'm happy to continue on this topic but know that you'll be greeted with facts you may not like, but they'll be facts, not just opinions that I agree with. That's pretty much the bases of all my posts here, be ready. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Aug 31st, 2019 at 5:05pm cods wrote on Aug 12th, 2019 at 10:09am:
You are right there Cods. A lot is misinformation thrown in to 'confuse' it away from the 'Fact' and a lot of it is speculation searching for the 'Fact'. Although there is a 'Fact' out there - one doesn't see the truth of it until it has taken into account the misinformation and speculation. Take 9/11 for example. Kanganon has described his attraction for the 'misinformation' thrust in to cause confusion away from the truth and to make all 'speculations' look silly and stupid. Operation Blue Book (UFO's) was one of the first such 'official' efforts of misinformation. Take UFO's themselves for example. Most people who live the 'American Dream' wether there in the USA itself or overseas in other nations - all 'see things in the sky' because besides the USA being the best in Aviation and having the Bald Eagle as its 'spirit animal', there is their exemplary Astronomical & Space endeavors. Seeing things in the sky, are just American thoughts of Heaven. ...unlike us Australians sent here 'down under' (into the Abyss). In the end. 9/11 was just a simple act of Terrorists attaining airplanes and going kamikazi. The Middle-East just flexing their muscle and reminding North America who the #1 Military 'region' of the world is (Namerica just being a Law Enforcer), no matter how hard the American 'poor' try to replicate with their mass shooting sprees in shopping centers. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Aug 31st, 2019 at 5:07pm SadKangaroo wrote on Aug 31st, 2019 at 8:36am:
I'll pass. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Aug 31st, 2019 at 5:37pm
And Jesus wept from upon the Christian Cross and said unto his Jewish people.
"Wait till me little bro Hitler gets yas - ya buggers!" Now I like that one ;) |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Jovial Monk on Sep 1st, 2019 at 8:55pm
My favorite conspiracy involves tens of thousands of scientists not ONE of whom has broken the silence.
Yes, silly conspiracy theory believed in by sad little brainless deniers, like Booby here, who believe it is all a conspiracy. How whacked out can you get? No, the globe is not cooling, it is warming. No, a Grand Solar Minimum will NOT cause an ice age since a GSM cools by a maximum of 0.2°C and AGW warms by 0.2°C/decade. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Sep 1st, 2019 at 9:26pm Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 1st, 2019 at 8:55pm:
*"I'm on a Mexican Radio... what did he say?" ::) |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 11:42am Mr Hammer wrote on Aug 30th, 2019 at 9:16pm:
Reference? |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 11:52am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 11:42am:
type in INTERNATIONAL RED CROSS (IRC) DOCUMENT. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 12:19pm
Only shows up links to the Red Cross. Anything on the actual disputed thing?
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 1:57pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 12:19pm:
The actual document has been downloaded for all to see. The fact of the matter is that the victors write up most history on war. It's only years later that more neutral perspectives come to light. I'd be careful fully believing many historical accounts of WW2 Europe written up post war. Especially Jewish deaths. It's not insensitive. It's just that politics was mucking around with actual reality. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 3:30pm Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 1:57pm:
So wheres the link, is it that fing hard. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 3:31pm
A google search instead found this
International Committee of the Red Cross Holocaust deniers misrepresent and omit information contained in ICRC reports that contradict their claims.[80] Critics argue that Richard Harwood in his "Did Six Million Really Die?" pamphlet could only claim that the ICRC had found no evidence of a policy to exterminate Jews by ignoring key sections of the 1948 report, where the ICRC explicitly states that the systematic extermination of Jews was Nazi policy.[81] Harwood disputed the notion that homicidal gas chambers were disguised as shower facilities by citing references in the report where ICRC officials inspected bathing facilities. He used their responses to argue that showers functioned as showers and were not part of a killing installation. However this is considered misrepresentation by critics, as the passage Harwood cited is in reference to Allied camps for civilians in Egypt and thus had nothing to do with Nazi concentration camps.[82] A letter from the Sonderstandesamt (special registry office) at Bad Arolsen regarding only deaths at Nazi concentration camps that were registered by this institution (not to be confused with the numbers of deaths officially registered in the camps themselves). This and similar correspondence is frequently misrepresented as the absolute death toll of the Holocaust by deniers. Note that the English translations are not a part of the original document and are incorrect: the document does not come from the Red Cross. "Anzahl" means "count", "number" and not "Total Deaths". Harwood also claimed that Die Tat, a Swiss tabloid newspaper, published statistics that concluded the number of people who died in Nazi prisons and camps from 1939 to 1945 based on ICRC statistics was "300,000, not all of whom were Jews".[83] The January 19, 1955 edition of Die Tat did indeed give a 300,000 figure, but this was only in reference to "Germans and German Jews" and not nationals of other countries.[84] In the 1978 official bulletin, entitled "False Propaganda", the ICRC denounced Holocaust denial and confirmed that the agency "Never published—or even compiled—statistics of this kind which are being falsely attributed to it" and stated that its mission was "to help war victims, not to count them",[85][86][87] and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[85][87] The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[85][87] and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls, since the Nazis destroyed much documentation, and that many deaths occurred in camps where prisoners were generally not registered.[85][87] The ICRC considers this misrepresentation as "propaganda",[85][87] and because these claims regarding the ICRC were used for the defense of Ernst Zündel at his trial in 1985, critics state that despite the agency's attempts to demonstrate the truth, Holocaust deniers have continued to rely on ICRC based disinformation.[84] Archives of the International Tracing Service (located in Bad Arolsen) responding to such misrepresentation can be found here.[88] In 1979, the ICRC stated a second time that they have "never tried to compile statistics on the victims of the war",[89] nor "certified the accuracy of the statistics produced by a third party",[89] and state that the authors of such material have "falsified" both claims that the document originates from the ICRC and refers exclusively to Jews.[89] As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has also addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating: The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.[90] — Françoise Perret, Comité International de la Croix-Rouge, to Jacob Gewirtz, August 22, 1975. SO I guess that ends, unless you want to continue this charade |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by The_Barnacle on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 4:18pm Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 1st, 2019 at 8:55pm:
Not only that, but apparently they are willing to put their reputation and careers on the line by deliberately falsifying data. This includes the Bureau of Meteorology, the Met Office and NASA. Luckily a bunch of plucky keyboard warriors with Google and youtube are able to put the scientists in their place. ;D |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 7:55pm
Jewish Holocaust?
Well Jesus did say his little Bro' Hitler would get revenge, to them long ago. ;D :D |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 8:50pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 3:31pm:
I've read the offic8al stuff, too. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 7:35am Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 2nd, 2019 at 8:50pm:
So I take that as yes. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Mr Hammer on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 8:28am
Don't argue with fools; people won't know the difference.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 9:01am Mr Hammer wrote on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 8:28am:
I always ignore that rule with people on here. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 7:21pm
*Blow dart's Bojack Horseman in the neck with a nice dose of Vampyro Teuthis Infernalis mucus.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bojack Horseman on Sep 4th, 2019 at 7:31am Jasin wrote on Sep 3rd, 2019 at 7:21pm:
Cool, bioluminescence |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Marla on Sep 4th, 2019 at 7:35am
There is no one better than Captain Mark Richards of the "Secret Space Command"
For over 30 years, Captain Mark Richards has been and still is, a prisoner of the war between on and off planet races that have dominated Earth for centuries. He is an honorable officer of the Navy, who because of his rebellion against the Draco and Reptoids (Luciferian alliance) is considered a threat to their operations. He was framed for a murder he is accused of having masterminded while he was on a mission off-planet in service to humanity. He was Captain of a starship enterprise type vessel, fighting the war against aliens bent on the takeover of Planet Earth. I am the only journalist who has interviewed him in person while he is in prison.–Kerry Lynn Cassidy, Project Camelot" http://projectcamelotportal.com/2019/03/01/mark-richards-captain-secret-space-program-all-9-interviews/ |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Bobby. on Sep 9th, 2019 at 11:47am
Charles Manson did 9/11 using demonic, telepathic powers.
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Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Sep 9th, 2019 at 7:39pm
When White Men thought they were superior in their little Europe (because they believed the Middle-Eastern Religious lies) when they discovered the entire rest of the planet was covered in Darkies.
Only when the White Man realises that he is the 'inferior' - that he will receive 'half the world'. It pays not to be a Jealous God. ;) |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by Super Nova on Sep 25th, 2019 at 4:21pm Jasin wrote on Sep 9th, 2019 at 7:39pm:
Love it. Then they realized they were descendants of darkies out of Africa and all is lost. |
Title: Re: Your Favourite Conspiracy Theory Post by .JaSin. on Sep 25th, 2019 at 11:18pm Super Nova wrote on Sep 25th, 2019 at 4:21pm:
Genetically we are like children to the ancient San Bushmen. You could say they have 42 differentials of DNA, where us Negroids, Caucasoids, Mongoloids and even Australoids of 150,000 years ago have just 16 to 25 different DNA strains of connection. Besides the fact that all Vaccines should be based on the San Bushman's genetic make-up and not on some 'base' of just 18 in variation. And yet many 'nationalised' races of today exhibit mass breeding without any internal penetration from other races. These are the 'Male' Races where their genetic evolutionaring is moving backwards - towards the 'One' true Gene only. ::) The World is a funny place sometimes. :( |
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