Gnads wrote on Nov 30^th, 2019 at 12:35pm:

Hexafluorsiliic Acid is a contaminated industrial waste ...... and that's what they put in public water supplies & call fluoride. What they put in toothpaste is sodium fluoride, but at least it's pharmacy grade Dentists get you to rinse thoroughly whenever they give you a topical fluoride treatment. They know it's toxic. what comes from nature is calcium fluoride .... but local authorities don't use that ......... they use toxic industrial waste. The state that has had fluoride in their water the longest - TASMANIA-(66 years) has the highest adult tooth decay rate in the country.

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 11:00am:

Quote: Why don't you tell me why you accept the toxic contaminated industrial waste from the fertilizer & Aluminium industries dumped into public water supplies as being fluoride? Because that's what it is? It's like getting water from recycled sewage. It's still water.

For the record, my dentist specifically says NOT to rinse out my mouth for at least an hour after a topical fluoride treatment. If you do, you've wasted your time getting the treatment

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 12:35pm: Hexafluorsiliic Acid is a contaminated industrial waste ...... and that's what they put in public water supplies & call fluoride. What they put in toothpaste is sodium fluoride, but at least it's pharmacy grade Dentists get you to rinse thoroughly whenever they give you a topical fluoride treatment. They know it's toxic. what comes from nature is calcium fluoride .... but local authorities don't use that ......... they use toxic industrial waste. The state that has had fluoride in their water the longest - TASMANIA-(66 years) has the highest adult tooth decay rate in the country. freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 11:00am: Quote: Why don't you tell me why you accept the toxic contaminated industrial waste from the fertilizer & Aluminium industries dumped into public water supplies as being fluoride? Because that's what it is? It's like getting water from recycled sewage. It's still water. For the record, my dentist specifically says NOT to rinse out my mouth for at least an hour after a topical fluoride treatment. If you do, you've wasted your time getting the treatment

what type of Fluoride Treatment is it ?

1. Sodium Fluoride ?

2. Calcium Fluoride ?

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I don't know if you realise Light, but you posted a picture of flouride being used to treat sewage.

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 1:33pm:

I don't know if you realise Light, but you posted a picture of flouride being used to treat sewage.

not sure if you know the difference between sodium fluoride and calcium fluoride freediver ..

which do you think is in most toothpastes and drinking water from the household tap ?

Ooh I know that one. One has sodium in it and the other calcium?

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 1:41pm:

Ooh I know that one. One has sodium in it and the other calcium?

wrong , thanks for playing .

next time you may want to research before commenting , yet either way

be at peace

Yet master Light,
I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s.
She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water
many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump.
After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities.

Their teeth were so much better.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 2:36pm:

Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better.

yes the school teacher was paid to tell lies ..

you may remember the flouride pill everyone was forced to take at school in the 70s ?

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 2:38pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:36pm: Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better. yes the school teacher was paid to tell lies .. you may remember the fluoride pill everyone was forced to take at school in the 70s ?

No - the teacher was not paid to tell lies -
it was an independent observation.


I don't remember such a fluoride pill.

ok, lets research the facts then ..

http://wakingscience.com/2016/02/fluoride-officially-classified-as-a-neurotoxin-in-worlds-most-prestigious-medical-journal/

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Fluoride Officially Classified as a Neurotoxin in World’s Most Prestigious Medical Journal
By Waking Science | February 10, 2016

The movement to remove industrial sodium fluoride from the world’s water supply has been growing in recent years, with evidence coming out against the additive from several sources.
Now, a report from the world’s oldest and most prestigious medical journal, The Lancet, has officially classified fluoride as a neurotoxin — in the same category as arsenic, lead and mercury.

The news was broken by author Stefan Smyle, who cited a report published in The Lancet Neurology, Volume 13, Issue 3, in the March 2014 edition, by authors Dr. Phillippe Grandjean and Philip J. Landrigan, MD. The report, which was officially released in 2014 and published in the journal, can be viewed by clicking here.http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneur/article/PIIS1474-4422(13)70278-3/fulltext#article_upsell

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Fluoride Classified Along with Mercury, Lead and Others

As noted in the summary of the report, a systematic review identified five different similar industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxicants: lead, methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, arsenic, and toluene.

The summary goes on to state that six additional developmental neurotoxicants have also  now been identified: manganese, fluoride, chlorpyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, tetrachloroethylene, and the polybrominated diphenyl ethers. The authors added that even more of these neurotoxicants remain undiscovered.

Also in the report, they note that neurodevelopmental disabilities, including attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, dyslexia, and other cognitive impairments, are now affecting millions of children worldwide in what they call a “pandemic of developmental neurotoxicity.”

Because of the documented health risks of fluoride, many people have launched campaigns to remove the chemical from their water supplies, to varying degrees of success.

Such initiatives usually begin through the are often controversial and emotionally charged because of the reputation fluoride still enjoys among mainstream dentistry practitioners.

In addition to fluoride in city water supplies, the substance can also be found in certain foods, especially in heavily processed brands of tea that may be grown in polluted areas (see this list for more info).

If you’ve ever noticed the warnings on toothpaste labels you probably know just how serious fluoride poisoning can be, especially for children if they swallow too much at one time.

Because of this threat, many parents have begun eschewing fluoridated toothpaste brands altogether and are using more natural brands such as Earthpaste, Desert Essence, Uncle Harry’s Toothpaste Dr. Bronner’s toothpaste line, or even making their own from a combination of ingredients such as coconut oil, organic neem leaf powders, essential oils like peppermint or cinnamon, and other natural ingredients.

The fluoride added to our water supply is mostly seen as a cumulative toxin that accumulates in our bodies and can manifest itself in problems over time, including dental fluorosis, or far worse health problems.

Global Fluoride Prevention Strategy Recommended

In the Lancet report, the authors propose a global prevention strategy, saying that “untested chemicals should not be presumed to be safe to brain development, and chemicals in existing use and all new chemicals must therefore be tested for developmental neurotoxicity.”

They continue: “To coordinate these efforts and to accelerate translation of science into prevention, we propose the urgent formation of a new international clearinghouse.”

The report coincides with 2013 findings by a Harvard University meta-analysis funded by the National Institutes of Health that concluded that children in areas with highly fluoridated water have “significantly lower” IQ scores that those who live in areas with low amounts of fluoride in their water supplies.

Sodium fluoride in drinking water has also been linked to various cancers. It is functionally different than the naturally-occurring calcium fluoride, and commonly added to drinking water supplies and used by dentists who posit that it is useful for dental health.

Fluoridation is Actually Uncommon in Europe

Currently, fluoride is added to water supplies across much of North America, but as this list of countries that ban or reject water fluoridation shows, the practice is actually not too common, or banned entirely throughout most of Europe and in several other developed nations across the world.

Since most places in America still add fluoride to the water a high quality water filter is recommend to filter out the fluoride, and it can be especially important to avoid exposing yourself to too much fluoride in your daily shower or bath.

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FLUORIDE: The MOST TOXIC substance for humans!

http://www.chrisbeatcancer.com/fluoride-is-poison/

Fluoride: How A Toxic Poison Ended Up In Our Water Supply

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/

Fluoridation / Fluoride
Toxic Chemicals In Your Water

Note: For more information on health-building techniques, please see the Holistic Healing Web Page.


Fluoride compounds which are put in water (fluoridation), toothpaste and supplement tablets (including some vitamins) were never tested for safety before approval. Recent independent research by scientists not associated with dental trade organizations has shown the following:

Neurotoxic and Lowers IQ
In 1995, neurotoxicologist and former Director of toxicology at Forsyth Dental Center in Boston, Dr. Phyllis Mullenix published research showing that fluoride built up in the brains of animals when exposed to moderate levels. Damage to the brain occured and the behavior patterns of the animals was adversely effected. Offspring of pregnant animals receiving relatively low doses of fluoride showed permanent effects to the brain which were seen as hyperactivity (ADD-like symptoms). Young animals and adult animals given fluoride experienced the opposite effect -- hypoactivity or sluggishness. The toxic effects of fluoride on the central nervous system was subsequently confirmed by previously-classified government research. Two new epidemiological studies which tend to confirm fluoride's neurotoxic effects on the brain have shown that children exposed to higher levels of fluoride had lower IQs.

A study published in Brain Research shows that rats drinking only 1 part per million fluoride (NaF) in water had histologic lesions in their brain similar to Alzheimer's disease and dementia. In addition, evidence was seen pointing to possible damage to the blood brain barrier from extended fluoride exposure. This study was the third in a series of papers published by Varner et al. Brain Research Vol. 784 No. 12 p 284-298 (1998). Results of this recent study and other studies showing significant dangers from low-level fluoride exposure were presented at a recent scientific symposium.

Causes Cancer
The Department of Health in New Jersey found that bone cancer in male children was between two and seven times greater in areas where water was fluoridated. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) researchers confirmed the bone cancer-causing effects of fluoride at low levels in an animal model. A new study has shown that fluoridation of water is linked to uterine cancer deaths.

Changes Bone Structure and Strength
Fluoride gradually builds up in the bones and causes adverse changes to the bone structure. Quite a few studies have shown that fluoridation leads to increases in hip fractures. The tensile strength of the hip is destroyed over time by fluoride ingestion.

Causes Birth Defects and Perinatal Deaths
A toxicologist in the United Kingdom recently found that perinatal deaths in a fluoridated area was 15% higher than in neighboring non-fluoridated areas. The fluoridated area had a higher socio-economic status and would have been expected to have less perinatal deaths. The fluoridated area also had a 30% higher rate of Down's Syndrome. Chile banned fluoridation because of research by the world-reknowned researcher, Dr Albert Schatz, which showed a link to infant deaths due to fluoridation.

Proven Ineffective
Fluoride compounds in water and in supplements do not provide any significant cavity-protecting effects. All of the recent large-scale studies of water fluoridation have shown that there are no positive effects. That is why countries without fluoridation have shown an equal improvement in dental health as those with fluoridation. (See Research Item #5.) There is scientific evidence that excessive fluoride exposure leads to increased levels of caries. Even pro-fluoridation scientists admit that there is not any properly-conducted research showing that fluoride supplements help prevent cavities. (Note: check vitamins carefully to be sure they do not include fluoride.)

Impairs Immune System
Independent research has shown that fluoride impairs the functioning of the immune system. In the United States, where toxic fluoride compounds are regularly added to water and given to children since the 1960s and 1970s, we are beginning to see an overwhelming number of people of that generation who are developing chronic immune system disorders.

Causes Acute Adverse Reactions
Several double-blind studies have shown that fluoridated water can often cause acute adverse reactions (in addition to the chronic poisoning effects discussed below). Some of the effects seen in double-blind studies include: gastrointestinal symptoms, stomatitis, joint pains, polydipsia, headaches, visual disturbances, muscular weakness, and extreme tiredness. An enlightening review of a book by one famous and well-respected researcher from The Netherlands who found adverse reactions in double-blind experiments can be read here.

Causes Initial Stages of Skeletal Fluorosis
Fluoride can cause severe skeletal fluorosis at high levels. Chronic, long-term exposure to levels of fluoride commonly found in water and food in the U.S. can cause the beginning stages of skeletal fluorosis including: pains in bones and joints, sensations of burning, pricking, and tingling in the limbs, muscle weakness, chronic fatigue, gastrointestinal disorders, reduced appetite, backache, osteoarthritis, etc. In fact, decades of ingestion of fluoride from water and other common sources can be expected to cause these symptoms in large numbers of people based on calculations of fluoride intake and excretion. (Keep in mind that fluoride is a cumulative poison since it builds up in the body of years.) Very few healthcare practitioners are capable of diagnosing such a condition because healthcare practitioners are not trained to test for or recognize the effects chronic poisoning from fluoride.

Increases Lead and Arsenic Exposure
Fluoride compounds put into water are often contaminated with lead, arsenic and radio nuclides since the fluoride compounds are toxic waste byproducts which largely come from pollution scrubbers of fertilizer plants. A study published in 2000 showed that the dumping of toxic silicofluoride compounds into water ("fluoridation") causes an increase in blood lead levels in children.

Fluoride Causes Osteoarthritis
In a study published in Rhuematology International in 2001, researchers found a link between fluoride exposure and the development of osteoarthritis. The level of exposure that caused osteoarthritis is common in the United States.

Contributes to the Development of Repetitive Stress Injury
A clinical study in New Zealand showed that fluoride ingestion may be a contributing factor in the development of Repetative Stress Injury (RSI) since such ingestion may encourage the development of apatite crystal formation. Elimination of fluoride plus regular supplementation of magnesium appeared to help RSI patients considerably.

Causes Permanent Disfigurement of the Teeth in Many Children
A very large and increasing number of children are experiencing dental fluorosis which is a permanent adverse structural change to the teeth.

Inhibits Key Enzymes
As fluoride builds up in different parts of the body over decades it can disrupt the actions of many key enzymes. This fact has been known for a long time.

Supresses Thyroid Function
Fluoride was given at low levels during the early to mid 20th century as an effective way of supressing thyroid function and treating hyperthyroidism. Articles and research can be found on the Thyroid web page.

Causes Large Numbers of Acute Poisonings
Fluoride is an extremely poisonous substances at exceptionally low doses and has caused a large number of acute poisonings. This is why a poison warning is now required on fluoridated toothpastes sold in the U.S.

Independent Experts Oppose Dumping Fluoride Into Water
Over 1500 professionals at the US EPA, including toxicologists and risk assessment experts voted unanimously to oppose the fluoridation initiative in California because of the health risks involved. See summary or official EPA union statement. Even the Candian Dental Association Consultant and Researcher urged people to avoid drinking fluoridated water.

Unethical
Fluoridation amounts to forced medication of the water supply. Such practices demonstrate a complete lack of ethics on the part of its promoters. Studies as early the 1930s showed extreme hazards to man and the environment due to fluoride dumping and exposure. Companies and organizations involved used the promotion of "fluoridation" as a way to avoid lawsuits due to dumping toxic wastes and later for economic gain. Please read the short history of fluoridation for more detailed information.

Banned in Many Countries
Fluoridation is not legal or not used in the overwhelming number of countries including industrialized countries. Please see Fluoride Status of Countries web page.

Many independent researchers, organizations, holistic healthcare experts and a growing number of dentists who avoid the use of toxic substances are warning their patients to avoid fluoridated water and fluoridated toothpaste and to definately not give children any fluoride since they appear to be more susceptible to the neurological toxicity from fluoride.

If your water department adds toxic fluoride compounds to the water, the best course of action is usually to drink and cook with bottled "spring" water. Carbon filters do not remove fluoride compounds to any significant extent. Avoid putting fluoridated water in humidifiers. Many non-organic juices have large amounts of fluoride from pesticide residues. It is best to juice your own vegetables and fruits from organic produce or go to a health food store to purchase organic juices.

http://www.holisticmed.com/fluoride/nobenefit.html

Fluoridated Water Does Not
Prevent Tooth Decay
by Mark D. Gold

dear master Light,
thou hath bombarded me with too much information in one go.

Rest easy and be at peace until I can digest it all.

namaste

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Alzheimer's sufferer Pineal gland turned to stone after fluoride intake for many years

the Pineal gland should be the same consistency as a raisin ..


Quote:

The pineal gland is a small structure inside the brain that influences the sleep cycle by secreting the hormone melatonin. But claims have spread that the pineal gland also can produce DMT, a claim that has been used as a biological explanation for dreams,

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Thousands of people have been admitted to hospital with burns caused by fluoridated water:

https://fluorinefacts.info

I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years.

The filters are biologically cleaned
Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned.

After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it.

This black shite came out, sticky and thick.
It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank.

To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters

White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite.

This is the water we during, you drink.

Not me, only clean filtered water.
Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean.

grooooooooooooan   isnt this the same as those who believe DLS is the cause of skin cancer melanoma ..

I am surprised light gets out of bed to be honest   he appears to live in fear of everything....

just think light if aliens dont get cha..fluoride will...it all depends on which arrives first.....

light  I have bad news for you......yes pet you will die... :( :( :(... I know of no one who has avoided it..

cods wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:13pm:

you will die... :( :( :(... I know of no one who has avoided it..

That's because they drank fluoride.

Light what water do you shower with?

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 12:35pm: Hexafluorsiliic Acid is a contaminated industrial waste ...... and that's what they put in public water supplies & call fluoride. What they put in toothpaste is sodium fluoride, but at least it's pharmacy grade Dentists get you to rinse thoroughly whenever they give you a topical fluoride treatment. They know it's toxic. what comes from nature is calcium fluoride .... but local authorities don't use that ......... they use toxic industrial waste. The state that has had fluoride in their water the longest - TASMANIA-(66 years) has the highest adult tooth decay rate in the country. freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 11:00am: Quote: Why don't you tell me why you accept the toxic contaminated industrial waste from the fertilizer & Aluminium industries dumped into public water supplies as being fluoride? Because that's what it is? It's like getting water from recycled sewage. It's still water. For the record, my dentist specifically says NOT to rinse out my mouth for at least an hour after a topical fluoride treatment. If you do, you've wasted your time getting the treatment

You're dentist is a tool.

You rinse immediately after ... he may say after that not to rinse any further.

It's not fluoride put in our water supplies ... thank goodness not mine anyway .....it's industrial waste fluorosilic acid that comes from wet scrubbers from the stacks from fertilizer  & aluminium industries.

Even the pro-fluoridists admit that.

They are not allowed to let it go into the air, streams or rivers or landfill but they can dump it in public water supplies & it's not a pollutant?

Funny how our sewage water ends up back in the river systems.

It's contaminated with heavy metals & arsenic.

And more & cities & communities are rejecting fluoride.


Quote:

Most developed nations, including the vast majority of western Europe, do not fluoridate their drinking water. Cities that do not fluoridate their water include: Amsterdam, Barcelona, Basel, Berlin, Copenhagen, Florence, Frankfurt, Geneva, Glasgow, Helsinki, London, Montreal, Oslo, Paris, Rome, Stockholm, Tokyo, Vancouver, Venice, Vienna, and Zurich. Since health authorities in North America have refused to let go of the fluoridation paradigm, local communities are doing the work for them. Since 2010, over 240 communities have rejected the practice, including large communities like  Calgary, Alberta (pop. 1.3 million), Windsor, Ontario (pop. 279,000), Portland, Oregon (pop. 900,000), Wichita, Kansas (pop. 385,000), and Bucks County, Pennsylvania (385,000).

There are many many more around the globe.
http://fluoridealert.org/content/communities_2010/

http://fluoridealert.org/content/europe-statements/

freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:35pm:

Light what water do you shower with?

the argument of the conquered ,

your defeat is accepted .

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freediver wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 1:33pm:

I don't know if you realise Light, but you posted a picture of flouride being used to treat sewage.

That was a water treatment plant ... not sewage.

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 2:36pm:

Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better.

Complete bs.  ;D

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 2:46pm:

it_is_the_light wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:38pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:36pm: Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better. yes the school teacher was paid to tell lies .. you may remember the fluoride pill everyone was forced to take at school in the 70s ? No - the teacher was not paid to tell lies - it was an independent observation. I don't remember such a fluoride pill.

And she was incorrect.

Fluoride chemicals in drinking water is not a magic panacea for dental caries.

The state that has had fluoride the longest , TASMANIA , has the highest rates of adult tooth decay in the country.

Valkie wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:13pm:

I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years. The filters are biologically cleaned Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned. After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it. This black shite came out, sticky and thick. It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank. To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite. This is the water we during, you drink. Not me, only clean filtered water. Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean.

well at least you are a clever racist ..

good for you  :)

Valkie wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:13pm:

I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years. The filters are biologically cleaned Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned. After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it. This black shite came out, sticky and thick. It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank. To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite. This is the water we during, you drink. Not me, only clean filtered water. Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean.

Ordinary under the sink filters can not remove fluoride from town water supplies.

They only way to remove fluoride is through reverse osmosis filtration ... residential systems will remove 85% to 90% of the fluoride ..... but it wastes a lot of water in the process.

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:36pm: Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better. Complete bs.  ;D

That was from a person that I deeply respect.
Apologise.

This is the  S6 toxic shyte the put in public water supplies.

Some sourced form China ...(& a lot of Australian councils sourced their supply from there) has been even more contaminated with substances unknown that have gummed up the treatment plants.

And 1 part per million pffft .... this can & does happen.

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/water-treatment-error-causes-fluoride-overload-20090514-b4bm.html

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Bobby. wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:58pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:36pm: Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better. Complete bs.  ;D That was from a person that I deeply respect. Apologise.

As that maybe ....they are incorrect.

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 7:03pm:

This is the  S6 toxic shyte the put in public water supplies. Some sourced form China ...(& a lot of Australian councils sourced their supply from there) has been even more contaminated with substances unknown that have gummed up the treatment plants. And 1 part per million pffft .... this can & does happen. https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/national/queensland/water-treatment-error-causes-fluoride-overload-20090514-b4bm.html

classic Beta test to see if the public give AF

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:56pm:

Valkie wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:13pm: I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years. The filters are biologically cleaned Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned. After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it. This black shite came out, sticky and thick. It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank. To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite. This is the water we during, you drink. Not me, only clean filtered water. Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean. Ordinary under the sink filters can not remove fluoride from town water supplies. They only way to remove fluoride is through reverse osmosis filtration ... residential systems will remove 85% to 90% of the fluoride ..... but it wastes a lot of water in the process.

Based on the tests I have seen
More than 90% of the pollutants, including fluoride, are removed through the 3 filters.

You woukd be surprised exactly what is in drinking water.
I'm actually leaning toward tank water for future use.

Valkie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2019 at 4:07am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:56pm: Valkie wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:13pm: I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years. The filters are biologically cleaned Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned. After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it. This black shite came out, sticky and thick. It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank. To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite. This is the water we during, you drink. Not me, only clean filtered water. Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean. Ordinary under the sink filters can not remove fluoride from town water supplies. They only way to remove fluoride is through reverse osmosis filtration ... residential systems will remove 85% to 90% of the fluoride ..... but it wastes a lot of water in the process. Based on the tests I have seen More than 90% of the pollutants, including fluoride, are removed through the 3 filters. You woukd be surprised exactly what is in drinking water. I'm actually leaning toward tank water for future use.

You should be doing this immediately.
Don't use the crap from the council tap.....not to mention that they charge YOU to poison YOUR water.
There is a reason fluoride is banned. It isn't because the dentists in those countries are going broke.

Valkie wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2019 at 4:07am:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:56pm: Valkie wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:13pm: I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years. The filters are biologically cleaned Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned. After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it. This black shite came out, sticky and thick. It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank. To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite. This is the water we during, you drink. Not me, only clean filtered water. Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean. Ordinary under the sink filters can not remove fluoride from town water supplies. They only way to remove fluoride is through reverse osmosis filtration ... residential systems will remove 85% to 90% of the fluoride ..... but it wastes a lot of water in the process. Based on the tests I have seen More than 90% of the pollutants, including fluoride, are removed through the 3 filters. You woukd be surprised exactly what is in drinking water. I'm actually leaning toward tank water for future use.

3 filters will remove 90% of all other pollutants...

but unless you have a reverse osmosis or the filtration systems mentioned in this link you will not get rid of fluoride.

https://www.alkaway.com.au/learning-centre/water-filtration/fluoride-removal/

Please believe me they all have pros & cons on a number of fronts.

The only way to 100% remove fluoride from community/public water supplies is to not have it in the first place.

Is yours filter one like this?

https://www.truwater.com.au/hydrotwist-aquarium-reverse-osmosis-5-stage-purifier-a5000?language=en&currency=AUD&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9Njwv66V5gIVjYuPCh2bbABnEAYYAyABEgLYbfD_BwE

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2bSL5VQgM

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 7:04pm:

Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:58pm: Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 2:36pm: Yet master Light, I spoke to a school teacher back in the 1980s. She said that before fluoride was added to drinking water many school kids had every tooth turned into a rotten stump. After fluoride hardly any kids had cavities. Their teeth were so much better. Complete bs.  ;D That was from a person that I deeply respect. Apologise. As that maybe ....they are incorrect.

Researchers from the Australian Research Centre for Population Oral Health (ARCPOH) have presented study results examining the effectiveness of water fluoridation on children’s dental health.

This study spanned four Australian states - Queensland, Victoria, Tasmania and South Australia. The study found that:

- children of 5 and 6 years of age who have lived more than half their lives in fluoridated areas have 50 per cent less tooth decay in their baby teeth, compared to children who have not lived in fluoridated areas

- children who are twelve and thirteen years old who have lived more than half their lives in fluoridated areas have 38 per cent less tooth decay in their adult teeth, compared to children who have not lived in fluoridated areas.

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 12:15pm:

Gnads wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 12:35pm: Hexafluorsiliic Acid is a contaminated industrial waste ...... and that's what they put in public water supplies & call fluoride. What they put in toothpaste is sodium fluoride, but at least it's pharmacy grade Dentists get you to rinse thoroughly whenever they give you a topical fluoride treatment. They know it's toxic. what comes from nature is calcium fluoride .... but local authorities don't use that ......... they use toxic industrial waste. The state that has had fluoride in their water the longest - TASMANIA-(66 years) has the highest adult tooth decay rate in the country. freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 11:00am: Quote: Why don't you tell me why you accept the toxic contaminated industrial waste from the fertilizer & Aluminium industries dumped into public water supplies as being fluoride? Because that's what it is? It's like getting water from recycled sewage. It's still water. For the record, my dentist specifically says NOT to rinse out my mouth for at least an hour after a topical fluoride treatment. If you do, you've wasted your time getting the treatment

My dentist says the same thing.

He has never told me to rinse after a topical fluoride treatment.

He always tells me to wait at least 30 minutes before eating, drinking, or rinsing, which makes perfect sense.

Gnads wrote on Dec 1^st, 2019 at 6:44pm:

freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 1:33pm: I don't know if you realise Light, but you posted a picture of flouride being used to treat sewage. That was a water treatment plant ... not sewage.

That's what a water treatment plant treats, sewerage. What did you think was going on in  there?

Gnads wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2019 at 7:14am:

Valkie wrote on Dec 2nd, 2019 at 4:07am: Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:56pm: Valkie wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:13pm: I have only drunk filtered water for the last 30 years. The filters are biologically cleaned Chemically cleaned and toxin cleaned. After 12 months I once cut open a used filter to see what was in it. This black shite came out, sticky and thick. It has permanently stained my garage floor and stank. To be sure I cut up a couple of new filters White, except for the carbon filter, no smell, no black shite. This is the water we during, you drink. Not me, only clean filtered water. Costs a bomb for the filters, but it's clean. Ordinary under the sink filters can not remove fluoride from town water supplies. They only way to remove fluoride is through reverse osmosis filtration ... residential systems will remove 85% to 90% of the fluoride ..... but it wastes a lot of water in the process. Based on the tests I have seen More than 90% of the pollutants, including fluoride, are removed through the 3 filters. You woukd be surprised exactly what is in drinking water. I'm actually leaning toward tank water for future use. 3 filters will remove 90% of all other pollutants... but unless you have a reverse osmosis or the filtration systems mentioned in this link you will not get rid of fluoride. https://www.alkaway.com.au/learning-centre/water-filtration/fluoride-removal/ Please believe me they all have pros & cons on a number of fronts. The only way to 100% remove fluoride from community/public water supplies is to not have it in the first place. Is yours filter one like this? https://www.truwater.com.au/hydrotwist-aquarium-reverse-osmosis-5-stage-purifier-a5000?language=en&currency=AUD&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI9Njwv66V5gIVjYuPCh2bbABnEAYYAyABEgLYbfD_BwE

Not quite that fancy ...no.

greggerypeccary wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2019 at 1:30pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 12:15pm: Gnads wrote on Nov 30th, 2019 at 12:35pm: Hexafluorsiliic Acid is a contaminated industrial waste ...... and that's what they put in public water supplies & call fluoride. What they put in toothpaste is sodium fluoride, but at least it's pharmacy grade Dentists get you to rinse thoroughly whenever they give you a topical fluoride treatment. They know it's toxic. what comes from nature is calcium fluoride .... but local authorities don't use that ......... they use toxic industrial waste. The state that has had fluoride in their water the longest - TASMANIA-(66 years) has the highest adult tooth decay rate in the country. freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 11:00am: Quote: Why don't you tell me why you accept the toxic contaminated industrial waste from the fertilizer & Aluminium industries dumped into public water supplies as being fluoride? Because that's what it is? It's like getting water from recycled sewage. It's still water. For the record, my dentist specifically says NOT to rinse out my mouth for at least an hour after a topical fluoride treatment. If you do, you've wasted your time getting the treatment My dentist says the same thing. He has never told me to rinse after a topical fluoride treatment. He always tells me to wait at least 30 minutes before eating, drinking, or rinsing, which makes perfect sense.

Not my dentist or should I say the several dentists over my life time.

You are leaving a concentrated toxin in your mouth.

rhino wrote on Dec 2^nd, 2019 at 2:14pm:

Gnads wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 6:44pm: freediver wrote on Dec 1st, 2019 at 1:33pm: I don't know if you realise Light, but you posted a picture of flouride being used to treat sewage. That was a water treatment plant ... not sewage. That's what a water treatment plant treats, sewerage. What did you think was going on in  there?

;D No a water treatment plant treats water... to make it potable & safe for public consumption.

A sewage treatment plant treats sewage... water to a level to make it safe to be discharged into a river or the ocean.

Do you think all public water supplies come from sewerage farms?

They are 2 different things you plonker.