https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-said-to-bulldoze-plane-crash-site-before-ukrainian-investigators-arrive/

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Ukraine says US has given it 'important' evidence
Iranian bulldozers clear plane crash site before Ukrainian investigators arrive
Tehran continues to claim crash was an accident, Pompeo joins Western officials insisting they have evidence that the Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian missile.

Iran has used bulldozers to clear away debris at the site of Ukrainian airliner crash, potentially destroying evidence as Tehran continues to deny Western allegations that one of its own missiles downed the jet, killing all 176 people on board.

Photos from the site show at least one bulldozer clearing away wreckage and Giancarlo Fiorella of Bellingcat, a journalism website that focuses on fact-finding, said the group had verified pictures of other bulldozers at work at the scene, calling it “distressing.”

“It’s distressing, this is a potential crime scene, if this was a shoot down you don’t want to disturb the crash site before a thorough investigation has taken place,” he told the UK’s Channel 4 news. “The presence of heavy machinery, the bulldozing of the wreckage is very distressing.”

https://edition.cnn.com/middleeast/live-news/us-iran-news-intl-01-10-2020/index.html


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The SA-15 surface-to-air missile system — which US officials say shot down the plane in the early hours of Wednesday —is a Russian-made air defense system known as Tor.

The short-range, ground-based missile system, also known as Gauntlet by NATO, integrates the radar and missile launcher on a vehicle, according to Jane's by IHS Markit.

Its short-range missiles are designed to hit targets at altitudes of up to 6,000 meters (19,685 feet) and a range of up to 15 km (9.3 miles), and can destroy a number of targets — helicopters, guided missiles and tactical and naval aircraft.

It is unclear whether the missile defense system was positioned around Imam Khomeini International Airport.

What Iran is saying: Iran dismissed the allegation as a "big lie" today. Ali Abedzadeh, the head of the Iran Civil Aviation Organization, said videos showing an object hitting the aircraft could not be confirmed scientifically.

Iran plane crash: 'More time needed for investigation' - Ukraine.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51067545


It is too soon to draw any conclusions on what brought down a Ukrainian passenger plane in Iran on Wednesday, Ukraine's foreign minister has said.

"We have so many different versions of what could [have] happened to the plane that we need some time to really understand," Vadym Prystaiko said.

His comments come a day after Western powers said they had strong evidence that the plane was hit by an Iranian missile - a claim rejected by Tehran.

All 176 people on board were killed.

The crash of Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 near Tehran airport came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:35am:

Iran plane crash: 'More time needed for investigation' - Ukraine. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51067545 It is too soon to draw any conclusions on what brought down a Ukrainian passenger plane in Iran on Wednesday, Ukraine's foreign minister has said. "We have so many different versions of what could [have] happened to the plane that we need some time to really understand," Vadym Prystaiko said. His comments come a day after Western powers said they had strong evidence that the plane was hit by an Iranian missile - a claim rejected by Tehran. All 176 people on board were killed. The crash of Ukraine International Airlines flight PS752 near Tehran airport came just hours after Iran carried out missile strikes on two airbases housing US forces in Iraq.

Quote:

so many different versions of what could [have] happened

yep

IF it happened at all


Then we look around

which entity wants war?

Pick one

I pick izrael

as do most commenters online elsewhere


So
(1) IF it happened at all

(2) which entity would be most motivated

I've never heard of Israel calling for the death & destruction of all it's surrounding hostile Arab neighbours.

That cannot be said of Iran who along with others have always done it.... with the addition of the Great Satan America.

Trigger happy Iranians after the Yanks got a drone through & popped off one of their head terrorists.

Got all the gear but can't make a determination about what type of aircraft it's shooting at.

Much like the Russians & Flight MH17 over the Ukraine.  ::)

Gnads wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 6:36am:

I've never heard of Israel calling for the death & destruction of all it's surrounding hostile Arab neighbours. That cannot be said of Iran who along with others have always done it.... with the addition of the Great Satan America. Trigger happy Iranians after the Yanks got a drone through & popped off one of their head terrorists. Got all the gear but can't make a determination about what type of aircraft it's shooting at. Much like the Russians & Flight MH17 over the Ukraine.  ::)

The Iranians are trigger happy.
They shot down their own people
and are now trying to bulldoze the evidence.

doesnt matter what they hide  or someone finds.. it wont change a thing....they are all dead, and i think the world knows   this was a mistake one awful accident....

the MH17 was not a mistake.....

stop being judgemental..

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 9:15am:

doesnt matter what they hide  or someone finds.. it wont change a thing....they are all dead, and i think the world knows   this was a mistake one awful accident.... the MH17 was not a mistake..... stop being judgemental..

But The Iranians are cheats.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 9:19am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:15am: doesnt matter what they hide  or someone finds.. it wont change a thing....they are all dead, and i think the world knows   this was a mistake one awful accident.... the MH17 was not a mistake..... stop being judgemental.. But The Iranians are cheats.

so what??.....nothing will change anything..

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 9:40am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:19am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:15am: doesnt matter what they hide  or someone finds.. it wont change a thing....they are all dead, and i think the world knows   this was a mistake one awful accident.... the MH17 was not a mistake..... stop being judgemental.. But The Iranians are cheats. so what??.....nothing will change anything..

I know Cods but it's further evidence that you can't trust muzzies.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 9:53am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:40am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:19am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:15am: doesnt matter what they hide  or someone finds.. it wont change a thing....they are all dead, and i think the world knows   this was a mistake one awful accident.... the MH17 was not a mistake..... stop being judgemental.. But The Iranians are cheats. so what??.....nothing will change anything.. I know Cods but it's further evidence that you can't trust muzzies.

the Mh17 wasnt shot down by muzzies...

Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:07am:

Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.

Greggy - if you had a boil on your arse
or a bee sting on your face -
you'd blame it on Trump.
You're sick.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:09am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House. Greggy - if you had a boil on your arse or a bee sting on your face - you'd blame it on Trump. You're sick.

This is 100% Trump's fault.

If he hadn't murdered that Iranian General, that missile would never have been in the air.

The alleged child rapist has the blood of another 176 innocent victims on his hands.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:07am:

Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.

   you agree with the ABC   I see...

so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::)

...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it.. 

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..

This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence.
It's not about Trump.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:11am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..

If Trump didn't murder that Iranian General, the missile that took down the plane would never have been launched.

This is 100% the alleged child rapist's fault.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump.

There would be no evidence and no need for a bulldozer if the alleged child rapist hadn't murdered that Iranian General.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:14am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  If Trump didn't murder that Iranian General, the missile that took down the plane would never have been launched. This is 100% the alleged child rapist's fault.

so you give no credit to Solomeini  for killing American and attacking the American Embassy... I get it.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump.

every thread greg posts in is about trump...

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. every thread greg posts in is about trump...

This is a Trump thread.

If he didn't murder that Iranian General, those plane passengers would still be alive.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:44am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:42am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. every thread greg posts in is about trump... This is a Trump thread. If he didn't murder that Iranian General, those plane passengers would still be alive.

lets be fair about this if the Iranian General you so admired didnt kill AMERIKANS in BAGHDAD..

and promise of more to come.......then!!!!!!

but dont let facts get in the way... ::)

I should have started this in the
environment forum  -
at least then I could delete
Greggy's garbage.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:57am:

I should have started this in the environment forum  - at least then I could delete Greggy's garbage.

no no no that isnt the answer and its what lefties do..

I do not believe in doing that...if you only want to hear one side  go to monks site.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 11:00am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:57am: I should have started this in the environment forum  - at least then I could delete Greggy's garbage. no no no that isnt the answer and its what lefties do.. I do not believe in doing that...if you only want to hear one side  go to monks site.

But Greggy hijacks nearly every thread and
turns it into an anti-Trump thread.


http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1578117896/186#186

... looks guilty, this clearing of debris.... clearly open government is a poisonous concept in Iran... oh, well.. start the clock ticking....

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 11:37am:

... looks guilty, this clearing of debris.... clearly open government is a poisonous concept in Iran... oh, well.. start the clock ticking....

Iran is a terrorist country run by terrorist Muslims.

They lie and cheat -
they even bulldoze away evidence from a crime scene.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:44am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:42am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. every thread greg posts in is about trump... This is a Trump thread. If he didn't murder that Iranian General, those plane passengers would still be alive. lets be fair about this if the Iranian General you so admired didnt kill AMERIKANS in BAGHDAD.. and promise of more to come.......then!!!!!! but dont let facts get in the way... ::)

My son asked my take on the Iran thing ..... I said it seems to me Iran made half a point by sending missiles against US bases - but killed nobody.  Like to see where the hits were in actual relation to the bases.. but I'd say this was more of a token gesture than a real attempt to kill Americans.. they're not that stupid..  On the other hand, they can play a long game, and wait for the Americans to strike back - which Trump will not do since he is waiting for the Iranians to make themselves the guilty ones for starting a war by directly killing US personnel.

US 1 - Iran 0 .....

Hmm  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0vviH-Nu-8

Some good hits there.. my theory might include a large measure of pure luck that nobody was killed.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:51am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:44am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:42am: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. every thread greg posts in is about trump... This is a Trump thread. If he didn't murder that Iranian General, those plane passengers would still be alive. lets be fair about this if the Iranian General you so admired didnt kill AMERIKANS in BAGHDAD.. and promise of more to come.......then!!!!!! but dont let facts get in the way... ::)

Nobody loved the Iranian General who was murdered, cods.

However, that doesn't give the alleged child rapist the authority to assassinate him.

He acted illegally, without the support of Congress.

The lives of those 176 people were snuffed out because of one "person" - Donald Trump.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 11:55am:

Nobody loved the Iranian General who was murdered, cods. However, that doesn't give the alleged child rapist the authority to assassinate him. He acted illegally, without the support of Congress. The lives of those 176 people were snuffed out because of one "person" - Donald Trump.

Soleimani had hands drenched in the blood of
1000s of innocent human beings.

Also - it's a WAR - not a trial in court.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 12:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 11:55am: Nobody loved the Iranian General who was murdered, cods. However, that doesn't give the alleged child rapist the authority to assassinate him. He acted illegally, without the support of Congress. The lives of those 176 people were snuffed out because of one "person" - Donald Trump. Soleimani had hands drenched in the blood of 1000s of innocent human beings. Also - it's a WAR - not a trial in court.

Trump is catching up on the death count.

And no, it's not a war.

The US is not at war with Iran.

Trump ordered the General's murder, pure and simple.

One more crime committed by the alleged child rapist.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:13am:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump.

I'd hazard every plane crash site gets cleaned up immediately afterwards. They've got the black box.

What more do they need?

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 1:47pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. I'd hazard every plane crash site gets cleaned up immediately afterwards. They've got the black box. What more do they need?

They need to find parts that were in a missile.
They also need to see evidence of shrapnel damage on the aircraft parts.

forgiven

namaste

https://pics.me.me/just-once-how-often-do-planes-crash-a-trump-blonde-59168817.png

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 2:06pm:

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 1:47pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. I'd hazard every plane crash site gets cleaned up immediately afterwards. They've got the black box. What more do they need? They need to find parts that were in a missile. They also need to see evidence of shrapnel damage on the aircraft parts. forgiven namaste

True.

Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 2:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 2:06pm: Mattyfisk wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 1:47pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:13am: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:11am: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 10:07am: Another 176 lives lost, thanks to the alleged child rapist in the White House.    you agree with the ABC   I see... so trump pulled the trigger that launched that rocket... ::) ...he should sit back and JUST watch a madman kill Americans....  got it..  This thread is about Iranians cheating by bulldozing evidence. It's not about Trump. I'd hazard every plane crash site gets cleaned up immediately afterwards. They've got the black box. What more do they need? They need to find parts that were in a missile. They also need to see evidence of shrapnel damage on the aircraft parts. forgiven namaste True.

So you agree that that Iranians are cheating by bulldozing evidence at a crime scene?

Is that typical of tinted Muslims?

Obviously Iran didn't learn with the strike killing that murdering prick salami.
Perhaps a few nukes may do the trick. Level every military base they've got with nukes.
I bet they listen then.



These Iran sympahthetics getting around are a crack up. Some twisted fkkks. Traitors apologising to Iran for killing that murdering mongrel salami. Muslim scum c@#ts. Regardless of his position...intelligence sources around the globe knew this farqwit was behind some cowardly attacks.....so they sorted him.
Such a pitty the sympathetics are to piss weak to live by their beliefs and go roam amongst the ones they care so much about. I don't understand why they stay in Australia around the people they hate....just farqoff to your paradise you scabby fkkers. 🤨

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 2:42pm:

Obviously Iran didn't learn with the strike killing that murdering prick salami. Perhaps a few nukes may do the trick. Level every military base they've got with nukes. I bet they listen then. These Iran sympahthetics getting around are a crack up. Some twisted fkkks. Traitors apologising to Iran for killing that murdering mongrel salami. Muslim scum c@#ts. Regardless of his position...intelligence sources around the globe knew this farqwit was behind some cowardly attacks.....so they sorted him. Such a pitty the sympathetics are to piss weak to live by their beliefs and go roam amongst the ones they care so much about. I don't understand why they stay in Australia around the people they hate....just farqoff to your paradise you scabby fkkers. 🤨

X2

Iran has now admitted to shooting down this jet and killing hundreds, and these rag heads want nuclear bombs.
Trump should deliver them one free of charge.

Proverbs 28:13
"He that covereth his sins shall not prosper....."

Johnnie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 2:56pm:

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 2:42pm: Obviously Iran didn't learn with the strike killing that murdering prick salami. Perhaps a few nukes may do the trick. Level every military base they've got with nukes. I bet they listen then. These Iran sympahthetics getting around are a crack up. Some twisted fkkks. Traitors apologising to Iran for killing that murdering mongrel salami. Muslim scum c@#ts. Regardless of his position...intelligence sources around the globe knew this farqwit was behind some cowardly attacks.....so they sorted him. Such a pitty the sympathetics are to piss weak to live by their beliefs and go roam amongst the ones they care so much about. I don't understand why they stay in Australia around the people they hate....just farqoff to your paradise you scabby fkkers. 🤨 X2 Iran has now admitted to shooting down this jet and killing hundreds, and these rag heads want nuclear bombs. Trump should deliver them one free of charge.

I bet Israel  already has the coordinates
of Iranian targets programmed into
its nuclear missiles.
They just have to press the button.

Yadda wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 2:58pm:

Proverbs 28:13 "He that covereth his sins shall not prosper....."

Soleimani had hands drenched in the blood of
1000s of innocent human beings. 

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:01pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 2:56pm: Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 2:42pm: Obviously Iran didn't learn with the strike killing that murdering prick salami. Perhaps a few nukes may do the trick. Level every military base they've got with nukes. I bet they listen then. These Iran sympahthetics getting around are a crack up. Some twisted fkkks. Traitors apologising to Iran for killing that murdering mongrel salami. Muslim scum c@#ts. Regardless of his position...intelligence sources around the globe knew this farqwit was behind some cowardly attacks.....so they sorted him. Such a pitty the sympathetics are to piss weak to live by their beliefs and go roam amongst the ones they care so much about. I don't understand why they stay in Australia around the people they hate....just farqoff to your paradise you scabby fkkers. 🤨 X2 Iran has now admitted to shooting down this jet and killing hundreds, and these rag heads want nuclear bombs. Trump should deliver them one free of charge. I bet Israel  already has the coordinates of Iranian targets programmed into its nuclear missiles. They just have to press the button.

So long as the wind doesn't blow the fallout this way I'm cool with that.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:28am:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-said-to-bulldoze-plane-crash-site-before-ukrainian-investigators-arrive/ https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/01/AP_20008370755881-640x400.jpg Ukraine says US has given it 'important' evidence Iranian bulldozers clear plane crash site before Ukrainian investigators arrive Tehran continues to claim crash was an accident, Pompeo joins Western officials insisting they have evidence that the Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian missile. Iran has used bulldozers to clear away debris at the site of Ukrainian airliner crash, potentially destroying evidence as Tehran continues to deny Western allegations that one of its own missiles downed the jet, killing all 176 people on board. Photos from the site show at least one bulldozer clearing away wreckage and Giancarlo Fiorella of Bellingcat, a journalism website that focuses on fact-finding, said the group had verified pictures of other bulldozers at work at the scene, calling it “distressing.” “It’s distressing, this is a potential crime scene, if this was a shoot down you don’t want to disturb the crash site before a thorough investigation has taken place,” he told the UK’s Channel 4 news. “The presence of heavy machinery, the bulldozing of the wreckage is very distressing.”

It looks like one front end loader too me not bulldozers....It doesn't appear to be clearing anything???

:-? :-? :-?

philperth2010 wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:18pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 4:28am: https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-said-to-bulldoze-plane-crash-site-before-ukrainian-investigators-arrive/ https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2020/01/AP_20008370755881-640x400.jpg Ukraine says US has given it 'important' evidence Iranian bulldozers clear plane crash site before Ukrainian investigators arrive Tehran continues to claim crash was an accident, Pompeo joins Western officials insisting they have evidence that the Ukrainian airliner was shot down by an Iranian missile. Iran has used bulldozers to clear away debris at the site of Ukrainian airliner crash, potentially destroying evidence as Tehran continues to deny Western allegations that one of its own missiles downed the jet, killing all 176 people on board. Photos from the site show at least one bulldozer clearing away wreckage and Giancarlo Fiorella of Bellingcat, a journalism website that focuses on fact-finding, said the group had verified pictures of other bulldozers at work at the scene, calling it “distressing.” “It’s distressing, this is a potential crime scene, if this was a shoot down you don’t want to disturb the crash site before a thorough investigation has taken place,” he told the UK’s Channel 4 news. “The presence of heavy machinery, the bulldozing of the wreckage is very distressing.” It looks like one front end loader too me not bulldozers....It doesn't appear to be clearing anything??? :-? :-? :-?

The link says


Quote:

Photos from the site show at least one bulldozer clearing away wreckage and Giancarlo Fiorella of Bellingcat, a journalism website that focuses on fact-finding, said the group had verified pictures of other bulldozers at work at the scene, calling it “distressing.” “It’s distressing, this is a potential crime scene, if this was a shoot down you don’t want to disturb the crash site before a thorough investigation has taken place,” he told the UK’s Channel 4 news. “The presence of heavy machinery, the bulldozing of the wreckage is very distressing.”

OK - Iran has come clean - no need for bulldozers:


https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-admits-it-unintentionally-shot-down-ukrainian-jetliner/

Iran admits it ‘unintentionally’ shot down Ukrainian airliner, killing 176
Tehran says its military downed plane, blaming ‘human error,’ after denying it played a part for several days; crash came hours after Iranian missile attack on US forces in Iraq
By Agencies and TOI staff      Today, 5:59 am


Iran announced Saturday that its military “unintentionally” shot down the Ukrainian jetliner that crashed earlier this week outside Tehran, killing all 176 aboard, after the government had repeatedly denied Western accusations that it was responsible.

The plane was shot down early Wednesday, hours after Iran launched a ballistic missile attack on two military bases housing US troops in Iraq in retaliation for the killing of Iranian general Qassem Soleimani in an American airstrike in Baghdad. No one was wounded in the attack on the bases.

A military statement carried by Iranian state media said the plane was mistaken for a “hostile target” after it turned toward a “sensitive military center” of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. The military was at its “highest level of readiness,” it said, amid the heightened tensions with the United States.

"I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....."

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:19pm:

"I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....."

It sounds like crap.
The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area
would have had access to the local airport's radar information.
They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff
and known exactly where it was.

They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits.

The missile would never have been fired if Trump didn't murder the Iranian General.

The alleged child rapist is to blame, 100%.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits.

They are definitely halfwits.

Johnnie wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 8:55pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. They are definitely halfwits.

Muslim halfwits.

No wonder Trump won't ever let them have nukes.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 9:20pm:

Johnnie wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 8:55pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. They are definitely halfwits. Muslim halfwits. No wonder Trump won't ever let them have nukes.

Why does the alleged child rapist get to decide who has nukes?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 8:12pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. The missile would never have been fired if Trump didn't murder the Iranian General. The alleged child rapist is to blame, 100%.

Trump wouldn't have had to act if these Muslims kept their noses clean.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 9:46pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 9:20pm: Johnnie wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 8:55pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. They are definitely halfwits. Muslim halfwits. No wonder Trump won't ever let them have nukes. Why does the alleged child rapist get to decide who has nukes?

Better him than you.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits.

I bet Iran would not have come clean had that video of the plane being shot down not existed.
The pers okn that shot the footage is most likely dead now.

Captain Caveman wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 5:18am:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:19pm: "I cannot tell a lie before Allah - it was an accident that someone pushed the button....." It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. I bet Iran would not have come clean had that video of the plane being shot down not existed. The person that shot the footage is most likely dead now.

Yes - I think he gave out his real name to the world's media.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-protest-against-regime-in-tehran-after-iran-admits-it-shot-down-plane/

Hundreds protest against regime in Tehran

after Iran admits it shot down plane
Crowds call for supreme leader to resign as anger mounts over government’s conduct; police said to use force to quell demonstration
By TOI staff and Agencies      Today, 6:16 pm



Hundreds protested against the Iranian regime in Tehran Saturday after the government acknowledged that it accidentally shot down the Ukrainian jetliner that crashed earlier this week, killing all 176 people aboard.

The admission came after Iranian officials had repeatedly denied Western accusations and mounting evidence that it was responsible.

Videos posted to social media showed demonstrators outside Tehran’s Amirkabir University chanting against the regime and urging Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei to resign. Calls included “Death to the dictator,” “Shame on you Khamenei, leave the country,” “Death to the liars,” and “Shame on the Revolutionary Guards, let the country go.”

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 7:26pm:

It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits.

They should have grounded all civilian planes until it was safe, there was an Iraqi commander who wanted to ground all civilian planes his request was refused.

The Islamic regime wanted to use civilian planes as human shields. The US would not launch Tomahawk missiles in return to Irans missile attack with heavy civilian air traffic in the area.

Did Rouhani hint at using planes for human shields?

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Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 4:45pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. They should have grounded all civilian planes until it was safe, there was an Iraqi commander who wanted to ground all civilian planes his request was refused. The Islamic regime wanted to use civilian planes as human shields. The US would not launch Tomahawk missiles in return to Irans missile attack with heavy civilian air traffic in the area. Did Rouhani hint at using planes for human shields?

Sounds highly likely.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 5:02pm:

Baronvonrort wrote on Jan 12th, 2020 at 4:45pm: Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 7:26pm: It sounds like crap. The controllers of surface to air missiles in a suburban area would have had access to the local airport's radar information. They should have been tracking that aircraft from takeoff and known exactly where it was. They either did it deliberately or they were halfwits. They should have grounded all civilian planes until it was safe, there was an Iraqi commander who wanted to ground all civilian planes his request was refused. The Islamic regime wanted to use civilian planes as human shields. The US would not launch Tomahawk missiles in return to Irans missile attack with heavy civilian air traffic in the area. Did Rouhani hint at using planes for human shields? Sounds highly likely.

If the US had retaliated Iran would have blamed the US for this plane being shot down.


Quote:

An Iranian commander says repeated requests to close the country's airspace were denied before a civilian passenger plane was "unintentionally" shot down outside Tehran. "Requests were made but due to some considerations it was not done and at the same time with the flights, the war situation continued to exist." After initially denying responsibility, Iran has admitted to downing a Ukraine International Airlines Boeing 737-800 bound for Kiev amid US hostilities in the region on Wednesday, killing all 176 people on board. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-11/iran-admits-to-shooting-down-ukrainian-plane/11860508