I predict that this will de-escalate the tension between the US and Iran. This also demonstrates how difficult it is for a government to deceive people who can go online.

Iran admits to shooting down Ukrainian passenger plane unintentionally

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/01/10/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-intl-hnk/index.html

(CNN)Iran unintentionally shot down the Ukrainian plane that crashed near Tehran this week, killing 176 people, the nation's state media reported.

The general staff of Iran's armed forces said the crash Wednesday was due to human error. Iran targeted the passenger plane unintentionally, Press TV said.

"A sad day. Preliminary conclusions of internal investigation by Armed Forces: Human error at time of crisis caused by US adventurism led to disaster," Iranian Foreign Minister Javad Zarif tweeted. "Our profound regrets, apologies and condolences to our people, to the families of all victims and to other affected nations."

All the people on board the Boeing 737-800 were killed when the Kiev-bound plane crashed shortly after takeoff from Imam Khomeini Airport. The victims include 82 Iranians, 63 Canadians, 11 Ukrainians, 10 Swedes, four Afghans, three Germans and three British nationals.

Fragments of the plane had been taken to a hangar off-site to "reconstruct" it for the investigation, said Ali Abedzadeh, the head of Iran's Civil Aviation Authority. The victims' remains have been sent to a forensic lab for DNA testing.

US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo has said Washington believes it is "likely" Iran was responsible for the downing of the Boeing 737-800 and that an "appropriate response" would come when a "final determination" is made.

CNN obtained a video that appears to show a missile strike an object in Tehran's night sky, around the same time that the Ukrainian plane crashed early Wednesday, and separate footage that captures the moment of the crash.

The crash came just hours after Iran fired missiles at Iraqi military bases housing US troops in retaliation for a drone strike at Baghdad airport that killed Iranian commander Qasem Soleimani, who was one of Iran's most powerful and influential military leaders.

Hours after the missile operation in Iraq, US military flights around Iranian borders increased and Iranian military officials reported seeing aerial targets coming toward Iran's strategic centers, according to a statement released by Iranian armed forces headquarters.

Defense centers around Iran reported seeing increased radar activity which caused a heightened sensitivity in the aerial defense centers of the country, the statement reads.

The Ukrainian flight took off from Imam Khomeini Airport and came close to a sensitive Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps military center at an altitude and flight condition that resembled hostile targeting, which led to it getting unintentionally hit, it added.

Iranian authorities are in possession of the two flight data recorders, also known as black boxes, which Prystaiko said Ukrainian investigators have seen but don't have access to. He added that Iran was, however, cooperating, and that he expected Ukraine could "extract and analyze" the data and recordings.

The last words of the pilot were "peaceful and that everything was OK," he said.

Prystaiko said Ukrainian investigators have access to the recording of the conversation between the control tower and the Ukrainian International Airlines crew.

The recent escalated hostilities between the US and Iran have complicated the thorny task of investigating the crash. US government investigators, for example, cannot fly into Tehran and meet with government officials without a license. That prohibition is due to longstanding sanctions rather than the most recent events, according to two US officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity.

Pompeo and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin announced on Friday that President Donald Trump was authorizing yet more sanctions on Iran.

The Iranian government, which under international protocol has control of the investigation, had earlier said it would not work with the US or Boeing in the probe, but on Friday reversed its position.

If Iranian authorities are unable to reconstruct and analyze the information from the fight data recorders, they said they would seek help from international partners Russia, France, Canada or Ukraine.

Ukrainian investigators were given access to the black boxes on Friday, according to Ukraine's foreign minister, but had yet to start examining the information, which includes recordings of communications between the pilot and Tehran flight control.

The exchange of attacks between Tehran and Washington -- both on Iraqi soil -- marked a dramatic escalation of tensions between the adversaries and raised fears of another proxy war in the Middle East.

A US official familiar with the intelligence said the aircraft was downed by two Russian-made SA-15 surface-to-air missiles. The US saw Iranian radar signals lock onto the jetliner, before it was shot down.

The US increasingly believes this was accidental.

The US, Britain, Canada, Sweden and the European Commission have called for an independent and credible investigation.

Israel newspaper reporting the same thing:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/iran-admits-it-unintentionally-shot-down-ukrainian-jetliner/

At least that will stop them trying to bulldoze
the crime scene.

At least they are more honorable than the friggin Russians!

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:41pm:

At least they are more honorable than the friggin Russians!

You can' trust Russians.

It was another Russian missile too.
Why does Russia sell them to halfwits?

can you imagine this lot with Nuclear Weapons... >:( >:( >:( >:(

They have denied shooting down this plane for days they only admitted to it after realising the whole world knew they shot it down.

How hard would it have been to check the missile rack to see if one was missing?

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Never would have happened if Trump didn't murder that Iranian General.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

can you imagine this lot with Nuclear Weapons... >:( >:( >:( >:(

The alleged child rapist has them.


https://media.giphy.com/media/lF5li31f8WdKo/giphy.gif

never would have happened had gregs mate Solomeini   NOT  bombed the American Embassy in Baghdad and threatened more..

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:08pm:

Never would have happened if Trump didn't murder that Iranian General.

Greggy,
Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTdMgBMam0

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:11pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:08pm: Never would have happened if Trump didn't murder that Iranian General. Greggy, Either you're with us or you're with the terrorists. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyTdMgBMam0

Trump is a terrorist, and I'm certainly not with him.

cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 4:09pm:

can you imagine this lot with Nuclear Weapons... >:( >:( >:( >:(

People should be asking what type of leader does Iran have who will launch a ballistic missile attack on another country just to " save face".

The Iranian regime claimed 80 killed with 200 wounded with their reports they used 2007 pics of soldiers being treated in Iraq. They lied there were zero casualties from that missile attack.

They have lied about shooting down this plane for days only  admitting to it after the whole world knew what happened.

What makes anyone think this Islamic regime hasn't lied about compliance on any nuclear deal?

Check the date this was posted.

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greg needs to read the other side sometime...

[url][https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/ending-irans-regional-ransom-tehran-united-states/11852446/url]


your HERO   wasnt all as sweet as you like to make out.........and he was called a terrorist by world leaders.........you sir are the only one who calls Trump a terrorist....somehow I dont think that puts you in the same class as the world leaders >:( >:(


Quote:

The Quds Force which Soleimani led has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United States. Soleimani himself was sanctioned by the United Nations and sanctioned by the European Union and was on U.S. terror watchlists.

The Islamic regime has been rounding up those who took photos and charging them with espionage.

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cods wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

greg needs to read the other side sometime... [url][https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/ending-irans-regional-ransom-tehran-united-states/11852446/url] your HERO   wasnt all as sweet as you like to make out.........and he was called a terrorist by world leaders.........you sir are the only one who calls Trump a terrorist....somehow I dont think that puts you in the same class as the world leaders >:( >:( Quote: The Quds Force which Soleimani led has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United States. Soleimani himself was sanctioned by the United Nations and sanctioned by the European Union and was on U.S. terror watchlists.

Trump is a terrorist.

And you are a terrorist sympathiser.

Moreover, the murdered General was no hero of mine - just another lie you've made up about me (which you do on a daily basis).

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:25pm:

cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:20pm: greg needs to read the other side sometime... [url][https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/ending-irans-regional-ransom-tehran-united-states/11852446/url] your HERO   wasnt all as sweet as you like to make out.........and he was called a terrorist by world leaders.........you sir are the only one who calls Trump a terrorist....somehow I dont think that puts you in the same class as the world leaders >:( >:( Quote: The Quds Force which Soleimani led has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United States. Soleimani himself was sanctioned by the United Nations and sanctioned by the European Union and was on U.S. terror watchlists. Trump is a terrorist. And you are a terrorist sympathiser. Moreover, the murdered General was no hero of mine - just another lie you've made up about me (which you do on a daily basis).

SadKangaroo said

Quote:

That said, I have been contacted many years ago by someone claiming to be from the Executive Council Australian Jewry because I'd had some "conflicts" with It_Is_The_Light. For Light, many of his conspiracies about Hitler being a secret Jew or the Jews controlling everything has him being monitored.

dear Greggy - are you being monitored too?

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:25pm: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:20pm: greg needs to read the other side sometime... [url][https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/ending-irans-regional-ransom-tehran-united-states/11852446/url] your HERO   wasnt all as sweet as you like to make out.........and he was called a terrorist by world leaders.........you sir are the only one who calls Trump a terrorist....somehow I dont think that puts you in the same class as the world leaders >:( >:( Quote: The Quds Force which Soleimani led has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United States. Soleimani himself was sanctioned by the United Nations and sanctioned by the European Union and was on U.S. terror watchlists. Trump is a terrorist. And you are a terrorist sympathiser. Moreover, the murdered General was no hero of mine - just another lie you've made up about me (which you do on a daily basis). SadKangaroo said [quote] That said, I have been contacted many years ago by someone claiming to be from the Executive Council Australian Jewry because I'd had some "conflicts" with It_Is_The_Light. For Light, many of his conspiracies about Hitler being a secret Jew or the Jews controlling everything has him being monitored.

dear Greggy - are you being monitored too?[/quote]

https://img.memecdn.com/You-are-being-monitored_o_83614.jpg

'Iran admits shooting down plane'



Only because the [nearly] 'immovable object' met a     resolute      'irresistible force'.


The [nearly] 'immovable object' [in this case], was a fascist religious autocracy - called, THE [VIRTUOUS ONLY] ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF IRAN.


The 'irresistible force' [in this case], was an informed, worldwide, online public opinion.


informed = = having or showing knowledge.      (of a judgement) based on a sound understanding of the facts.




Proverbs 14:34
Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.

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Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 5:40pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:25pm: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:20pm: greg needs to read the other side sometime... [url][https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/ending-irans-regional-ransom-tehran-united-states/11852446/url] your HERO   wasnt all as sweet as you like to make out.........and he was called a terrorist by world leaders.........you sir are the only one who calls Trump a terrorist....somehow I dont think that puts you in the same class as the world leaders >:( >:( Quote: The Quds Force which Soleimani led has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United States. Soleimani himself was sanctioned by the United Nations and sanctioned by the European Union and was on U.S. terror watchlists. Trump is a terrorist. And you are a terrorist sympathiser. Moreover, the murdered General was no hero of mine - just another lie you've made up about me (which you do on a daily basis). SadKangaroo said [quote] That said, I have been contacted many years ago by someone claiming to be from the Executive Council Australian Jewry because I'd had some "conflicts" with It_Is_The_Light. For Light, many of his conspiracies about Hitler being a secret Jew or the Jews controlling everything has him being monitored.

dear Greggy - are you being monitored too?

[/quote]


Nah, bobby.


greggery is really an     agent provocateur    working for the Australian AFP.

He posts outrageous and illogical abuse about anyone not LEFTIST, so as to draw out persons of a similar ideological inclination.

And those clowns are all being identified through their IP, and put on a list of 'persons of interest' for ASIO.

Public, online political forums, like OzPol, are perfect 'fishing grounds' for such people, for the security services.



agent provocateur = = a person employed to induce suspected offenders to commit criminal acts and thus be convicted.

IMAGE.....
https://pics.me.me/technical-difficulties-please-stand-by-while-we-figure-out-how-45923549.png


"TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES....
Please stand by while we figure out how to blame Trump"

bloody hell.. the stupidity is spreading. It's not just light with the dumb conspiracies :D

John Smith wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:33pm:

bloody hell.. the stupidity is spreading. It's not just light with the dumb conspiracies :D

Its ok JS.

It is certain, that [all of] the crowd at Monk's forum, have already been added to that list.

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 3:44pm:

Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 3:41pm: At least they are more honorable than the friggin Russians! You can' trust Russians. It was another Russian missile too. Why does Russia sell them to halfwits?

Hard to say. Why does Uncle sell them to the Saudis?

FD?

Oh. You won't say.

Yadda wrote on Jan 11^th, 2020 at 10:30pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:40pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:25pm: cods wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 5:20pm: greg needs to read the other side sometime... [url][https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-09/ending-irans-regional-ransom-tehran-united-states/11852446/url] your HERO   wasnt all as sweet as you like to make out.........and he was called a terrorist by world leaders.........you sir are the only one who calls Trump a terrorist....somehow I dont think that puts you in the same class as the world leaders >:( >:( Quote: The Quds Force which Soleimani led has been designated a terrorist organization by Canada, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and the United States. Soleimani himself was sanctioned by the United Nations and sanctioned by the European Union and was on U.S. terror watchlists. Trump is a terrorist. And you are a terrorist sympathiser. Moreover, the murdered General was no hero of mine - just another lie you've made up about me (which you do on a daily basis). SadKangaroo said [quote] That said, I have been contacted many years ago by someone claiming to be from the Executive Council Australian Jewry because I'd had some "conflicts" with It_Is_The_Light. For Light, many of his conspiracies about Hitler being a secret Jew or the Jews controlling everything has him being monitored. dear Greggy - are you being monitored too?

Nah, bobby.


greggery is really an     agent provocateur    working for the Australian AFP.

He posts outrageous and illogical abuse about anyone not LEFTIST, so as to draw out persons of a similar ideological inclination.

And those clowns are all being identified through their IP, and put on a list of 'persons of interest' for ASIO.

Public, online political forums, like OzPol, are perfect 'fishing grounds' for such people, for the security services.



agent provocateur = = a person employed to induce suspected offenders to commit criminal acts and thus be convicted.



[/quote]


Doesn't worry me - ASIO know me full well..... AFP are reserve grade...

Karnal wrote on Jan 12^th, 2020 at 10:28pm:

Bobby. wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 3:44pm: Redmond Neck wrote on Jan 11th, 2020 at 3:41pm: At least they are more honorable than the friggin Russians! You can' trust Russians. It was another Russian missile too. Why does Russia sell them to halfwits? Hard to say. Why does Uncle sell them to the Saudis? FD? Oh. You won't say.

They want Mussos to kill Mussos?  As old as time.... this small group wanting to kill another small group..

Then there was that time the YANKS shot down an Iranian domestic aircraft ...

Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy.



Date: 3 July 1988

Fatalities: 290

Survivor: 0

Operator: Iran Air

Locations: Iran, Strait of Hormuz


The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location. The incident occurred during the final stages of the Iran–Iraq War, which had been ongoing for nearly eight years. Vincennes had entered Iranian territory after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.[2][3][4][5][6][7]

The reason for the shootdown has been disputed between the governments of the two countries. According to the United States government, the crew of USS Vincennes had incorrectly identified the Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat, a U.S.-made jet fighter that had been part of the Iranian Air Force inventory since the 1970s. While the F-14s had been supplied to Iran in an air-to-air configuration,[8][9] the crew of the guided missile cruiser had been briefed that the Iranian F-14s were equipped with air-to-ground ordnance.[10] Vincennes had made ten attempts to contact the aircraft on both military and civilian radio frequencies, but had received no response.[11] According to the Iranian government, the cruiser negligently shot down the aircraft, which was transmitting IFF squawks in Mode III, a signal that identified it as a civilian aircraft, and not Mode II as used by Iranian military aircraft.[12][13] The event generated a great deal of criticism of the United States. Some analysts blamed the captain of Vincennes, William C. Rogers III, for overly aggressive behavior in a tense and dangerous environment.[11][14] In the days immediately following the incident, US President Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to the Iranian government, expressing deep regret.[15] However, the United States continued to insist that the Vincennes was acting in self-defense in international waters.

In 1996, the governments of the United States and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice which included the statement "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident..."[16] As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it still agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.[17] The shootdown was the deadliest aviation disaster involving an Airbus A300.[18][19][20]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

How quickly we forget.   IRAN admits to shooting down a plane with what turns out to be a rudimentary missile system and control.    Yet the US was silent for months on the shooting down of asn Iranian civilian plane with one of the most sophisticated control systems in the world at that time.   Fine to blame the bloke at the end of the missile for panicking and firing, but what about the non emotional guidance system on the yank ship?

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uss+vincennes+shooting+of+iran+flight+655

Vic wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:36pm:

How quickly we forget.   IRAN admits to shooting down a plane with what turns out to be a rudimentary missile system and control.    Yet the US was silent for months on the shooting down of asn Iranian civilian plane with one of the most sophisticated control systems in the world at that time.   Fine to blame the bloke at the end of the missile for panicking and firing, but what about the non emotional guidance system on the yank ship? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uss+vincennes+shooting+of+iran+flight+655

it might have something to do with what hostilities were going on at the time.....I cant  remember the shooting down of 655.. how bad is that?... :'(


any type of story like this is a tragedy...one doesnt cancel out the other..

cods wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 3:28pm:

Vic wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 1:36pm: How quickly we forget.   IRAN admits to shooting down a plane with what turns out to be a rudimentary missile system and control.    Yet the US was silent for months on the shooting down of asn Iranian civilian plane with one of the most sophisticated control systems in the world at that time.   Fine to blame the bloke at the end of the missile for panicking and firing, but what about the non emotional guidance system on the yank ship? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uss+vincennes+shooting+of+iran+flight+655 it might have something to do with what hostilities were going on at the time.....I cant  remember the shooting down of 655.. how bad is that?... :'( any type of story like this is a tragedy...one doesnt cancel out the other..

Whaaaaaat!!!!!  You posted in another Thread that it was some exculpation that the Yanks paid compensation to the victims of that flight!

See your Post # 5.

Link.

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Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 4:02pm:

1

2 ;D

Aussie wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 4:00pm:

cods wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 3:28pm: Vic wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 1:36pm: How quickly we forget.   IRAN admits to shooting down a plane with what turns out to be a rudimentary missile system and control.    Yet the US was silent for months on the shooting down of asn Iranian civilian plane with one of the most sophisticated control systems in the world at that time.   Fine to blame the bloke at the end of the missile for panicking and firing, but what about the non emotional guidance system on the yank ship? http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uss+vincennes+shooting+of+iran+flight+655 it might have something to do with what hostilities were going on at the time.....I cant  remember the shooting down of 655.. how bad is that?... :'( any type of story like this is a tragedy...one doesnt cancel out the other.. Whaaaaaat!!!!!  You posted in another Thread that it was some exculpation that the Yanks paid compensation to the victims of that flight! See your Post # 5. Link.

after I was reminded about it....whats wrong with that?....... shame on me I cant remember every plane being shot down........what a crime! >:(

Lee King wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 4:10pm:

Aussie wrote on Jan 13th, 2020 at 4:02pm: 1 2 ;D

hes following me again dont encourage him!

Vic wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 1:36pm:

How quickly we forget.   IRAN admits to shooting down a plane with what turns out to be a rudimentary missile system and control.    Yet the US was silent for months on the shooting down of asn Iranian civilian plane with one of the most sophisticated control systems in the world at that time.

The time was 1988. Mobile phones are more sophisticated.

Captain Nemo wrote on Jan 13^th, 2020 at 9:11am:

Then there was that time the YANKS shot down an Iranian domestic aircraft ... Iran Air Flight 655 was a scheduled passenger flight from Tehran to Dubai via Bandar Abbas that was shot down on 3 July 1988 by an SM-2MR surface-to-air missile fired from USS Vincennes, a guided-missile cruiser of the United States Navy. Date: 3 July 1988 Fatalities: 290 Survivor: 0 Operator: Iran Air Locations: Iran, Strait of Hormuz The jet was hit while flying over Iran's territorial waters in the Persian Gulf, along the flight's usual route, shortly after departing Bandar Abbas International Airport, the flight's stopover location. The incident occurred during the final stages of the Iran–Iraq War, which had been ongoing for nearly eight years. Vincennes had entered Iranian territory after one of its helicopters drew warning fire from Iranian speedboats operating within Iranian territorial limits.[2][3][4][5][6][7] The reason for the shootdown has been disputed between the governments of the two countries. According to the United States government, the crew of USS Vincennes had incorrectly identified the Airbus as an attacking F-14 Tomcat, a U.S.-made jet fighter that had been part of the Iranian Air Force inventory since the 1970s. While the F-14s had been supplied to Iran in an air-to-air configuration,[8][9] the crew of the guided missile cruiser had been briefed that the Iranian F-14s were equipped with air-to-ground ordnance.[10] Vincennes had made ten attempts to contact the aircraft on both military and civilian radio frequencies, but had received no response.[11] According to the Iranian government, the cruiser negligently shot down the aircraft, which was transmitting IFF squawks in Mode III, a signal that identified it as a civilian aircraft, and not Mode II as used by Iranian military aircraft.[12][13] The event generated a great deal of criticism of the United States. Some analysts blamed the captain of Vincennes, William C. Rogers III, for overly aggressive behavior in a tense and dangerous environment.[11][14] In the days immediately following the incident, US President Ronald Reagan issued a written diplomatic note to the Iranian government, expressing deep regret.[15] However, the United States continued to insist that the Vincennes was acting in self-defense in international waters. In 1996, the governments of the United States and Iran reached a settlement at the International Court of Justice which included the statement "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident..."[16] As part of the settlement, even though the U.S. government did not admit legal liability or formally apologize to Iran, it still agreed to pay US$61.8 million on an ex gratia basis in compensation to the families of the Iranian victims.[17] The shootdown was the deadliest aviation disaster involving an Airbus A300.[18][19][20] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

Interview with Iranian commander who says Iran was to blame for flight 655 being shot down here - https://twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1216242852013002752

F14 was about to take off to join battle the US knew this, F14 aborted take off with technical issue flight 655 took off in its place the US did not know F14 aborted take off.

Iranian commander says Iran was to blame for not grounding all civilian flights while a battle was going on. Military and civilian aircraft were taking off from same airport while battle was underway.