Just apply the Tony Schwartz test...

Trump's statements and actions


1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental.
2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest.
3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything.

pay attention

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 9:56pm:

pay attention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo

We are, dear. While the chodes are swallowing the tactics you're selling, we're paying attention, we're asking questions, we're curious.

You?

Such a terrible man and somehow he accomplished what Obama couldn't or wouldn't. Abracadabra, manufacturing jobs coming back. We need more skilled craftsmen and fewer soyboys with paper diplomas and no marketable abilities! In far too many cases they can take their diplomas and $2.50 to Starbucks and buy a tall coffee of the day!

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 7:05pm:

Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything.

What a stupid ignorant OP!

Karnal wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:11pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 9:56pm: pay attention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo We are, dear. While the chodes are swallowing the tactics you're selling, we're paying attention, we're asking questions, we're curious. You?

No you're not paying attention and the evidence for that is crystal clear
If the intellectual left
Hollywood
The establishment in Washington
And the mainstream media were paying attention
They would have been very comfortable with the result of the 2016 election

You really should study the thoughts of William James and the pragmatists
The only original group of American philosophers

You constantly accused trump of not telling the truth
Trump's lies are usually inconsequential and white lies
Sort of like telling your children but the stork delivers babies
It's more a bulshit story than a lie

But what William James said was
How can we know the truth
We can't because we are ignorant

The only way we can no a truth is to run an experiment judge the outcome of the experiment
And then the outcome of the experiment is true enough
And posit that is the truth

In 2016
A giant experiment was run in the democracy of the United States of America
And the fact that trump won that game
Is true enough
We can't know anything more true than that

The fact that the intellectual left
The mainstream media
The establishment in Washington
Can't or won't accept that as the truth
Shows that is they who have lost the ability to know up from down
Trump derangement syndrome is really no more than a psychological diagnosis of people who cannot accept the truth
So if we are going to talk about liars
Trump's lies are small and inconsequential
The lies of the left go write to their core
They embody that lie
They are living that lie
They are nothing but lie

There's an idea in the old testament at the burning bush represents a similar story to the phoenix
A story of burning off all that is a lie
And being reborn

But if we took a torch to those of the intellectual left and burnt off what was a lie
They would probably perish
They are 99% Deadwood

Trump
Sure he's got a few twigs of Deadwood
He likes to tell a few fibs
Embellish the truth

But his core is pretty rock solid
He paid attention
From William James perspective he looked at the game that was being played
And then he played that game
And he won that game
So trump like it or not is the truth
The truth is that trump won the 2016 election
And trump resides in the oval office
The left should have come to terms with this by 6 a.m. the day after the election
And yet here we are nearly 4 years down the track
And they still have not even begun the slow methodical demolition of the presuppositions that leaves them living a total and complete catastrophic lie

You almost convinced yourself there. Could you repeat it please?

Rock solid?

Mr Trump used to be pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-drug reform, pro-free trade, and of course, very pro-Clinton. Mr Trump was a New York liberal. The Clintons attended his wedding to Melania.

If you could provide the new criteria for rock solid, dear, it would be grand.

Richdude wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 1:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP!

Yes... "Donald Trump doesn't lose... Period!

Other than two marriages, 3 casino, an airline, a football league, 4 magazines, a vodka brand, a university and a charity"... Apart from all that, Donald Trump never loses anything... Never loses and never wrong".

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:51am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 1:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP! Yes... "Donald Trump doesn't lose... Period! Other than two marriages, 3 casino, an airline, a football league, 4 magazines, a vodka brand, a university and a charity"... Apart from all that, Donald Trump never loses anything... Never loses and never wrong".

Another triggered soul.


Follow these steps......
Make your way to the closest bridge over a river more than 3m deep.
Tie a besser block around ankles using good quality rope....or ratchet strap.
Jump in and tread water.....surely that's easier than living don't you think? 🤣🤣🤣
Loser.

Captain,
Been on holidays in North Korea have you?

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:51am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 1:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP! Yes... "Donald Trump doesn't lose... Period! Other than two marriages, 3 casino, an airline, a football league, 4 magazines, a vodka brand, a university and a charity"... Apart from all that, Donald Trump never loses anything... Never loses and never wrong".

Lol    ;D

President Donald Trump's ever-elusive tax returns got slightly demystified Tuesday, as the New York Times released a report detailing one decade of Trump's finances from his days as a real estate tycoon.

And, spoiler alert: he's not the “VERY successful businessman” he's claimed to be. According to the Times report, which is based on printouts from Trump’s official Internal Revenue Service tax transcripts, rather than the actual tax returns themselves, the now-president lost $1.17 billion from 1985 to 1994—more money than “nearly any other individual American taxpayer.”

DONALD TRUMP MAY BE ONE OF THE BIGGEST LOSERS IN AMERICA

Karnal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:40am:

Rock solid? Mr Trump used to be pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-drug reform, pro-free trade, and of course, very pro-Clinton. Mr Trump was a New York liberal. The Clintons attended his wedding to Melania. If you could provide the new criteria for rock solid, dear, it would be grand.

There you go being all logical and thinking that the world of politics revolves around logic
It doesn't
You really need to embrace that fact

The world of politics revolves around 2 things
People's emotional state
And the core personality of the candidates

Trump is certainly not rock solid like an idealogue with a rigid ideology

But he is totally rock solid in his core personal philosophies
He always project strength and power
He always buzzes off his own awesomeness
He always has self belief
He never back pedals and apologises
He is always at the cause and never at the effect
He always penetrates the world and does not allow the world to penetrate him

He always re frames things to project to the world his underlying philosophy
That the Donald is awesome

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:12am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 6:40am: Rock solid? Mr Trump used to be pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-drug reform, pro-free trade, and of course, very pro-Clinton. Mr Trump was a New York liberal. The Clintons attended his wedding to Melania. If you could provide the new criteria for rock solid, dear, it would be grand. There you go being all logical and thinking that the world of politics revolves around logic It doesn't You really need to embrace that fact The world of politics revolves around 2 things People's emotional state And the core personality of the candidates Trump is certainly not rock solid like an idealogue with a rigid ideology But he is totally rock solid in his core personal philosophies He always project strength and power He always buzzes off his own awesomeness He always has self belief He never back pedals and apologises He is always at the cause and never at the effect He always penetrates the world and does not allow the world to penetrate him He always re frames things to project to the world his underlying philosophy That the Donald is awesome

And yet, 3,000,000 more people voted for Hillary.

Thoughts?

"People's emotional state"
About 47% voters had emotional trump syndrome. Senate majority has it. The US shoots, hunts, has nukes and votes.

Mortdooley wrote on Jan 27^th, 2020 at 10:53pm:

Such a terrible man and somehow he accomplished what Obama couldn't or wouldn't.

Tell me, did Trump inherit two wars and a GFC as Obama did?  ::)

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 10:12am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 6:40am: Rock solid? Mr Trump used to be pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-drug reform, pro-free trade, and of course, very pro-Clinton. Mr Trump was a New York liberal. The Clintons attended his wedding to Melania. If you could provide the new criteria for rock solid, dear, it would be grand. There you go being all logical and thinking that the world of politics revolves around logic It doesn't You really need to embrace that fact The world of politics revolves around 2 things People's emotional state And the core personality of the candidates Trump is certainly not rock solid like an idealogue with a rigid ideology But he is totally rock solid in his core personal philosophies He always project strength and power He always buzzes off his own awesomeness He always has self belief He never back pedals and apologises He is always at the cause and never at the effect He always penetrates the world and does not allow the world to penetrate him He always re frames things to project to the world his underlying philosophy That the Donald is awesome

Right, so just to be clear, the Donald isn't really rock-solid on abortion, guns, drugs, being a leftard or locking Hillary up.

Anyway, they're just "logical" issues, nothing the electorate gets emotionally triggered by or anything.

No, the Donald is rock-solid on the awesomeness of the Donald, that's it. That's why he deserves four more years.

Is that right, dear?

Karnal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 12:58pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 10:12am: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 6:40am: Rock solid? Mr Trump used to be pro-choice, anti-gun, pro-drug reform, pro-free trade, and of course, very pro-Clinton. Mr Trump was a New York liberal. The Clintons attended his wedding to Melania. If you could provide the new criteria for rock solid, dear, it would be grand. There you go being all logical and thinking that the world of politics revolves around logic It doesn't You really need to embrace that fact The world of politics revolves around 2 things People's emotional state And the core personality of the candidates Trump is certainly not rock solid like an idealogue with a rigid ideology But he is totally rock solid in his core personal philosophies He always project strength and power He always buzzes off his own awesomeness He always has self belief He never back pedals and apologises He is always at the cause and never at the effect He always penetrates the world and does not allow the world to penetrate him He always re frames things to project to the world his underlying philosophy That the Donald is awesome Right, so just to be clear, the Donald isn't really rock-solid on abortion, guns, drugs, being a leftard or locking Hillary up. Anyway, they're just "logical" issues, nothing the electorate gets emotionally triggered by or anything. No, the Donald is rock-solid on the awesomeness of the Donald, that's it. That's why he deserves four more years. Is that right, dear?

Exactly,

He "sets the tone" for the country.

He attacks the mainstream media, the intellectual elite, Hollywood and the Washington establishment.

Not by trying to convince the electorate with boring facts, because , as William James would agree, we are too ignorant to know the facts.

What we can know is " what game can we all play that is a game people want to keep playing across time"
And "who is the best player by the rules of that game"

Clearly, the people of real America don't want to play the game of "identity politics" .

They want to play the game of small government, less PC ideology and more fun and entertainment from the " entertainer in chief "

Now you can scald them,
Or you can do what trump did.


Pay attention to the new game.
Hone your skills
And be a popular kid because you are playing a game other people want to play

Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald?

Karnal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 3:24pm:

Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald?

because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant.

he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic

thats whats entertaining.

trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch.

how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones?
maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 3:35pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots

So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 3:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy

he flip flops in an interesting way.
so do all heroic figures.
harry potter
the terminator
batman
hans solo
indiana jones
bilbo the hobbit
hawkeye pierce
dr house.
frank castle
dirty harry.


all these guys were highly chaotic
highly unpredictable
entertaining and
loveable rogues.

donald has "paid attention" to the personalities we like.

we dont like goody two shoes and pedants.

gweggy or yourself could never get elected to the oval office....too sqaure

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:56pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy he flip flops in an interesting way. so do all heroic figures. harry potter the terminator batman hans solo indiana jones bilbo the hobbit hawkeye pierce dr house. frank castle dirty harry. all these guys were highly chaotic highly unpredictable entertaining and loveable rogues. donald has "paid attention" to the personalities we like. we dont like goody two shoes and pedants. gweggy or yourself could never get elected to the oval office....too sqaure

I know I can't. I'm not a US citizen

And by god I missed your word jumble

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 3:56pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy

Not as much as aqua flip-flops though.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 4:20pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:56pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy he flip flops in an interesting way. so do all heroic figures. harry potter the terminator batman hans solo indiana jones bilbo the hobbit hawkeye pierce dr house. frank castle dirty harry. all these guys were highly chaotic highly unpredictable entertaining and loveable rogues. donald has "paid attention" to the personalities we like. we dont like goody two shoes and pedants. gweggy or yourself could never get elected to the oval office....too sqaure

Too Slovenian.

Donald and our Bridget play Monopoly with an oval board with fast lane around Jail.

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 4:21pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 4:20pm: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:56pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy he flip flops in an interesting way. so do all heroic figures. harry potter the terminator batman hans solo indiana jones bilbo the hobbit hawkeye pierce dr house. frank castle dirty harry. all these guys were highly chaotic highly unpredictable entertaining and loveable rogues. donald has "paid attention" to the personalities we like. we dont like goody two shoes and pedants. gweggy or yourself could never get elected to the oval office....too sqaure I know I can't. I'm not a US citizen

thats what a square would say

Hitler was square but had a go. In 1942, German military leaders did briefly investigate and consider the possibility of a cross Atlantic attack against the U.S.—most cogently expressed with the RLM's Amerika Bomber trans-Atlantic range bomber design competition, first issued in the spring of 1942—proceeded forward with only five airworthy prototype aircraft created between two of the competitors, but this plan had to be abandoned due to both the lack of staging bases in the Western Hemisphere, and Germany's own rapidly decreasing capacity to produce such aircraft as the war wore on.

Richdude wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 1:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP!

Having sourced it from Schwartz himself, in one of his apologies for having degraded himself and insulted his profession by ghost-writing 'The Art of the Deal', I think he's not coming from a position of ignorance...

Schwartz has publicly confessed his sins for having had anything to do with Trump...

Self-confession 'before god and man'... Americans love that sort of thing, don't they?

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 4:22pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:56pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:35pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 3:24pm: Yes, but why do you think Mr Trump changed his rock-solid stance on all those things if the electorate are only interested in the Donald? because , unlike the rigid "ideologically possessed" idealogue, trump doesnt cling onto ideas like an anally retentive pedant. he flows like water, he is unpredictable and chaotic thats whats entertaining. trump could step straight into game of thrones as a character and we would all watch. how would liz warren or sleepy joe go as a character in game of thrones? maybe they could get a job on the set, polishing donalds boots So basically you're saying he flip-flops. I agree horse boy Not as much as aqua flip-flops though.

Aquascoot's just vibing with the Donald. You watch, when Mr Trump armits he's really a card-carrying, white racial supremacist, Aquascoot will praise him for being a Real American. When Mr Trump confesses he's been Putin's Manchurian candidate all along, Aquascoot will congratulate him for being good for Russians too. When Mr Trump says, okay, I raped that kid, Aquascoot will say good on him for sowing his wild oats.

Actually, I'm pretty sure Aquascoot's said all these things.

Aquascoot, you see, has been consistent all along.

Just heard of this...

'A Very Stable Genius'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpYhm0JXj_M

The title is from a quote by Trump, himself, about... himself...

And just when you thought Americans are wired to not get irony...

One of Trump's greatest personal tragedies is that he's capable of hilarious self-deprecation but cursed to never be aware of it...

A truly subconscious accomplished comedian.

That's just Mr Trump practicing affirmations.

You know, like: every day, in every way, things just keep getting better and better.

Repetition, that's the key. Tell your subconscious something nice and you start to believe it.

Neitzsche said all this years ago - not in an actual book or anything, but you can find it on Wikipedia somewhere.

The Donald discovered the principle a few years later and turned it into his spiritual classic, the Art of the Deal.

5 years is the minimum, leftards.

Karnal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 7:43pm:

That's just Mr Trump practicing affirmations. You know, like: every day, in every way, things just keep getting better and better. Repetition, that's the key. Tell your subconscious something nice and you start to believe it. Neitzsche said all this years ago - not in an actual book or anything, but you can find it on Wikipedia somewhere. The Donald discovered the principle a few years later and turned it into his spiritual classic, the Art of the Deal. 5 years is the minimum, leftards.

Well... Just like all of us... We're all susceptible to the dopamine hit delivered by hyperbolic self-deception... Its just a question of degree.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 7:49pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 7:43pm: That's just Mr Trump practicing affirmations. You know, like: every day, in every way, things just keep getting better and better. Repetition, that's the key. Tell your subconscious something nice and you start to believe it. Neitzsche said all this years ago - not in an actual book or anything, but you can find it on Wikipedia somewhere. The Donald discovered the principle a few years later and turned it into his spiritual classic, the Art of the Deal. 5 years is the minimum, leftards. Well... Just like all of us... We're all susceptible to the dopamine hit delivered by hyperbolic self-deception... Its just a question of degree.

I know. For some, it's a real spiritual experience, just like a hit of LSD.

Open your minds, leftards.

Karnal wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 7:49pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 7:43pm: That's just Mr Trump practicing affirmations. You know, like: every day, in every way, things just keep getting better and better. Repetition, that's the key. Tell your subconscious something nice and you start to believe it. Neitzsche said all this years ago - not in an actual book or anything, but you can find it on Wikipedia somewhere. The Donald discovered the principle a few years later and turned it into his spiritual classic, the Art of the Deal. 5 years is the minimum, leftards. Well... Just like all of us... We're all susceptible to the dopamine hit delivered by hyperbolic self-deception... Its just a question of degree. I know. For some, it's a real spiritual experience, just like a hit of LSD.

Just like a hit of meth I'd guess would be closer.

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:19pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 8:10pm: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 7:49pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 7:43pm: That's just Mr Trump practicing affirmations. You know, like: every day, in every way, things just keep getting better and better. Repetition, that's the key. Tell your subconscious something nice and you start to believe it. Neitzsche said all this years ago - not in an actual book or anything, but you can find it on Wikipedia somewhere. The Donald discovered the principle a few years later and turned it into his spiritual classic, the Art of the Deal. 5 years is the minimum, leftards. Well... Just like all of us... We're all susceptible to the dopamine hit delivered by hyperbolic self-deception... Its just a question of degree. I know. For some, it's a real spiritual experience, just like a hit of LSD. Just like a hit of meth I'd guess would be closer.

That's okay. You need a little something on the "narrow road to success". Back in Mr Trump's day it was coke. Everybody was doing it.

Mr won't touch it, of course, but if it helps you to hear the truth, it's all good.

Mr Trump said that in the Art of the Deal. Check it on Wikipedia if you don't believe me.

George W Bush had to beat Jeb to get George Snr to approve G W. So the Sadam Hussein war was better than George Snrs war and made George W the greatest.

Donald reached the sky with dad's millions but it still wasn't Donald's money.  It needs... smash Kin Jong Un , flatten Iran,  put Democrats in the bin, shaft Biden and his boy, zap Mexico - Bolivia, bankrupt China, time is nearly up.

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aquascoot wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 6:17am:

Karnal wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 10:11pm: aquascoot wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 9:56pm: pay attention https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LR6EA91zLo We are, dear. While the chodes are swallowing the tactics you're selling, we're paying attention, we're asking questions, we're curious. You? No you're not paying attention and the evidence for that is crystal clear If the intellectual left Hollywood The establishment in Washington And the mainstream media were paying attention They would have been very comfortable with the result of the 2016 election You really should study the thoughts of William James and the pragmatists The only original group of American philosophers You constantly accused trump of not telling the truth Trump's lies are usually inconsequential and white lies Sort of like telling your children but the stork delivers babies It's more a bulshit story than a lie But what William James said was How can we know the truth We can't because we are ignorant The only way we can no a truth is to run an experiment judge the outcome of the experiment And then the outcome of the experiment is true enough And posit that is the truth In 2016 A giant experiment was run in the democracy of the United States of America And the fact that trump won that game Is true enough We can't know anything more true than that The fact that the intellectual left The mainstream media The establishment in Washington Can't or won't accept that as the truth Shows that is they who have lost the ability to know up from down Trump derangement syndrome is really no more than a psychological diagnosis of people who cannot accept the truth So if we are going to talk about liars Trump's lies are small and inconsequential The lies of the left go write to their core They embody that lie They are living that lie They are nothing but lie There's an idea in the old testament at the burning bush represents a similar story to the phoenix A story of burning off all that is a lie And being reborn But if we took a torch to those of the intellectual left and burnt off what was a lie They would probably perish They are 99% Deadwood Trump Sure he's got a few twigs of Deadwood He likes to tell a few fibs Embellish the truth But his core is pretty rock solid He paid attention From William James perspective he looked at the game that was being played And then he played that game And he won that game So trump like it or not is the truth The truth is that trump won the 2016 election And trump resides in the oval office The left should have come to terms with this by 6 a.m. the day after the election And yet here we are nearly 4 years down the track And they still have not even begun the slow methodical demolition of the presuppositions that leaves them living a total and complete catastrophic lie

Indeed.
The only thing the Dems are offering is racour and spite.
Same by their partisans here.
Will that win? 

Richdude wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 1:15am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP!

But it's true...

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:07am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 1:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP! But it's true...

Undeniably true.

For his entire life, Trump has only ever done things that will be of some benefit to himself.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 8:07am: Richdude wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 1:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP! But it's true... Undeniably true. For his entire life, Trump has only ever done things that will be of some benefit to himself.

Mr Trump is notoriously stingy when it comes to charity, but do you know?

Back in the day, he'd rock up to New York charity PR gigs and push his way onto the stage.

Yes, there were the papers and the TV news covering a drive for MS or kids with cancer or whatever, and there would be Mr Trump, pushing his way into the stage to have his photo taken for the tabloids.

One time, he even talked some guy into letting him present the big cheque. It'll make the news if I do it, he said.

Mr Trump never mentioned the guy who gave the money.

Mr Trump, you see, was desperate to break into the New York establishment, but he didn't want to do the one thing they expect: giving back. You know, nobless oblige.

So Mr Trump faked that too. His chauffeur would drop him out the front, and he'd storm in at the end to make the photo. His PR guy "John Barron" would then announce his attendance to the gossip columns, who'd publish the photo.

Cunning, no? Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

:D :D :D :D :D

What a bunch of gossiping old women you are!

Back to your knitting, old bints.

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 4:49pm:

What a bunch of gossiping old women you are! Back to your knitting, old bints.

Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Tsk, tsk. ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 4:49pm: What a bunch of gossiping old women you are! Back to your knitting, old bints. Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Tsk, tsk. ::)

Aaaaaand the gossiping old mad woman downs the knitting needles and rushes in, on cue!!!!

She IS contributing, don't you know?! Oh yes!!  Eye-rolling and tut-tutting are very important contributions to ANY debate.

Brian told me so, to coin a phrase.

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 5:20pm:

Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 4:49pm: What a bunch of gossiping old women you are! Back to your knitting, old bints. Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.

Not even a tsk tsk tsk?  ::) ::) ::)

Come now, old boy, at least try.

Karnal wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 7:36pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:20pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 4:49pm: What a bunch of gossiping old women you are! Back to your knitting, old bints. Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Not even a tsk tsk tsk?  ::) ::) ::) Come now, old boy, at least try.

"Scalding" as carried out by Bwian is a trademark of the leftie intellectual.

But " real Americans and Australians " find it kind of disgusting.
Why do lefties do things which alienate voters and mean they lose elections.
The rogan case is a classic example.

I think the psychology of the situation explains why.

The leftie intellectual is kind of bitter and resentful.

Businessmen and politicians do have an impact on the world , but the leftie intellectual just has the constant emotional state of being sad, angry, frustrated , bitter and resentful.

And emotional states are super addictive.

The leftie intellectual , at a subconscious level , may be aware that if his team won an election , then he would have no excuse to continue in his sorry emotional state.

And that would be annoying.

So he has to sabotage success by pissing off the fine people of "real America and Australia" so he can remain in stasis and not have to change.

We call this a " success barrier" and I think it is very common on the intellectual left

aquascoot wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:08pm:

Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 7:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:20pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 4:49pm: What a bunch of gossiping old women you are! Back to your knitting, old bints. Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Not even a tsk tsk tsk?  ::) ::) ::) Come now, old boy, at least try. "Scalding" as carried out by Bwian is a trademark of the leftie intellectual. But " real Americans and Australians " find it kind of disgusting. Why do lefties do things which alienate voters and mean they lose elections. The rogan case is a classic example. I think the psychology of the situation explains why. The leftie intellectual is kind of bitter and resentful. Businessmen and politicians do have an impact on the world , but the leftie intellectual just has the constant emotional state of being sad, angry, frustrated , bitter and resentful. And emotional states are super addictive. The leftie intellectual , at a subconscious level , may be aware that if his team won an election , then he would have no excuse to continue in his sorry emotional state. And that would be annoying. So he has to sabotage success by pissing off the fine people of "real America and Australia" so he can remain in stasis and not have to change. We call this a " success barrier" and I think it is very common on the intellectual left

Gist: Bwian is an outlet for prog fkwittery.

Relentless fkwittery. Hard to say which one is the defining characteristic coz the fkwittery IS relentless and uncompromising.

aquascoot wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:08pm:

"Scalding" as carried out by Bwian is a trademark of the leftie intellectual.

Scalding is so yesterday.

Mocking is where it's at these days.

https://media.giphy.com/media/lF5li31f8WdKo/giphy.gif

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:26pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 8:08pm: "Scalding" as carried out by Bwian is a trademark of the leftie intellectual. Scalding is so yesterday. Mocking is where it's at these days. https://media.giphy.com/media/lF5li31f8WdKo/giphy.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWDvcVEZiGc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=877CXbk0MN4

Frank wrote on Jan 29^th, 2020 at 8:16pm:

aquascoot wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 8:08pm: Karnal wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 7:36pm: Brian Ross wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 5:20pm: Frank wrote on Jan 29th, 2020 at 4:49pm: What a bunch of gossiping old women you are! Back to your knitting, old bints. Anything valuable to add to the thread, Soren?  No, it doesn't appear so.  Not even a tsk tsk tsk?  ::) ::) ::) Come now, old boy, at least try. "Scalding" as carried out by Bwian is a trademark of the leftie intellectual. But " real Americans and Australians " find it kind of disgusting. Why do lefties do things which alienate voters and mean they lose elections. The rogan case is a classic example. I think the psychology of the situation explains why. The leftie intellectual is kind of bitter and resentful. Businessmen and politicians do have an impact on the world , but the leftie intellectual just has the constant emotional state of being sad, angry, frustrated , bitter and resentful. And emotional states are super addictive. The leftie intellectual , at a subconscious level , may be aware that if his team won an election , then he would have no excuse to continue in his sorry emotional state. And that would be annoying. So he has to sabotage success by pissing off the fine people of "real America and Australia" so he can remain in stasis and not have to change. We call this a " success barrier" and I think it is very common on the intellectual left Gist: Bwian is an outlet for prog fkwittery. Relentless fkwittery. Hard to say which one is the defining characteristic coz the fkwittery IS relentless and uncompromising.

Does this count as scolding, Aquascoot?

Over the years - the more the Schmedia Lefties (use the Democrats - the gullible twatts that they are) attack Trump, the better he gets and more respected he becomes in the eyes of International Nations.

He is the quintessential 'American' little Battler.
His best weapon is the Shield of K.I.S.S and these over-intellectual Lefties keep trying to hammer him (mostly with 'personal' attacks from his hair, to his wife  ::)).

I've never seen a President get attacked from a Political Faction under the sway of the Lefty Schmedia of Entertainment and everything 'Fake' about USA Culture, like what I've seen with Trump.

He is like a Lightning Rod - that shows everyone what Assange revealed: the Corruption 'within' USA Politics.

Remember when Celebrities began their attacks with his first few months in power.
Now that they realise what absolute Noobs they are and that they know SweetFA about Politics - they kinda keep their mouths shut these days.
Even the African-American is pretty quiet too.

He's a Fire Starter ok.
He's put a torch to all that is old, corrupt and holding the USA back.

China, Iran and many other nations like the NEW USA under Trump.

...but there's always the bitter, selfish backstabbers.

Reckon if the Democrats got into power and ousted Trump - the World will fall straight into WORLD WAR 3 and the stupid Democrats and their wormtongue Media experts will know stuff all what to do about it. Billions will die!

The Media has been poisoning the mind of Politics for far too long.

Jasin wrote on Jan 31^st, 2020 at 8:36pm:

Over the years - the more the Schmedia Lefties (use the Democrats - the gullible twatts that they are) attack Trump, the better he gets and more respected he becomes in the eyes of International Nations.

Lol    ;D

His popularity has steadily declined over the last 3 years.

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31^st, 2020 at 8:40pm:

Jasin wrote on Jan 31st, 2020 at 8:36pm: Over the years - the more the Schmedia Lefties (use the Democrats - the gullible twatts that they are) attack Trump, the better he gets and more respected he becomes in the eyes of International Nations. Lol    ;D His popularity has steadily declined over the last 3 years.

Coming from a turd like you who says he will leave the Forum if Trump wins.

No-one believes a word you say.

Trump's popularity grows.
Even the people of Iran listen to his advice.
...unlike Media jocks like you, who haven't a clue how to manage Peace in the Middle-East.
Go play a guitar loser.

Jasin wrote on Jan 31^st, 2020 at 8:52pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Jan 31st, 2020 at 8:40pm: Jasin wrote on Jan 31st, 2020 at 8:36pm: Over the years - the more the Schmedia Lefties (use the Democrats - the gullible twatts that they are) attack Trump, the better he gets and more respected he becomes in the eyes of International Nations. Lol    ;D His popularity has steadily declined over the last 3 years. Trump's popularity grows. Even the people of Iran listen to his advice.

"Business is booming at Iran’s largest flag factory which makes US flags for Iranian protesters to burn."

Business booms at Iran factory making US flags for burning

;D

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28^th, 2020 at 8:51am:

Richdude wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 1:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP! Yes... "Donald Trump doesn't lose... Period! Other than two marriages, 3 casino, an airline, a football league, 4 magazines, a vodka brand, a university and a charity"... Apart from all that, Donald Trump never loses anything... Never loses and never wrong".

  Yes Trump has lost but he picked himself up and carried on. That's character - he learnt and didn't blame anybody like the Lucifer and Saul Alinsky loving Hillary.

Besides if you've never lost - you've never lived!

Trump is a billionaire with a beautiful family and is POTUS!

So tell us NON - why are you a winner in comparison?

Ah! The new Dem script. "Trump thinks only of himself" ...... and 330 million Americans.


Now here's the rub folks for those with working brains (TDS sufferers excluded).

These are the facts of Trumps administration that you won't see in the MSM!

- During the 8 years of Bush's administration average household income rose about $400 total.

- Obama's 8 years was a little better about $900 total.

- Trump has had just under 3 years and the annual household income increase is over $10,000 total.

That is amazing and is testament to just how effective this President has been - DESPITE the harassment from the deranged.

Richdude wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 12:30am:

Trump is a billionaire ...

I call bullshit on that.

You made the claim, now it's up to you to prove it.

Go ahead.

Richdude wrote on Feb 1^st, 2020 at 12:30am:

NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 8:51am: Richdude wrote on Jan 28th, 2020 at 1:15am: NorthOfNorth wrote on Jan 27th, 2020 at 7:05pm: Just apply the Tony Schwartz test... Trump's statements and actions 1. will have an utter disregard for the truth and an air of a lack of conscience about that fact. Any correlation with the truth will be coincidental. 2. will be driven entirely by what he would perceive as his immediate self interest. 3. even when patently false, their repetition over time will betray his inability to ever admit that he is wrong about anything. What a stupid ignorant OP! Yes... "Donald Trump doesn't lose... Period! Other than two marriages, 3 casino, an airline, a football league, 4 magazines, a vodka brand, a university and a charity"... Apart from all that, Donald Trump never loses anything... Never loses and never wrong".   Yes Trump has lost but he picked himself up and carried on. That's character - he learnt and didn't blame anybody like the Lucifer and Saul Alinsky loving Hillary. Besides if you've never lost - you've never lived! Trump is a billionaire with a beautiful family and is POTUS! So tell us NON - why are you a winner in comparison? Ah! The new Dem script. "Trump thinks only of himself" ...... and 330 million Americans. Now here's the rub folks for those with working brains (TDS sufferers excluded). These are the facts of Trumps administration that you won't see in the MSM! - During the 8 years of Bush's administration average household income rose about $400 total. - Obama's 8 years was a little better about $900 total. - Trump has had just under 3 years and the annual household income increase is over $10,000 total. That is amazing and is testament to just how effective this President has been - DESPITE the harassment from the deranged.

Here's one for you, Aquascoot.

Real household income has risen $2200 over Trump's term in office.

In 2016, it stood at $61,779. In 2019, $63,699.

In 2008, it was $59,382. It then dropped and stagnated after the GFC, rising in 2015/16. The same trajectory has continued.

Figures are totalled at the end of the US financial year in September. Erections are held in November. Trump's erection in 2016, therefore, could not possibly have accounted for the rise in real household income.

Click for the figures.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MEHOINUSA672N

Lies, damn lies and statistics!

Here you go Karnal from the Heritage Foundation.

What is undisputed here is that trumps Presidency has produced amazing growth and prosperity for the average American - particularly for the poor.

The latest Census Bureau Current Population Survey data now show that middle-class incomes, after adjusting for inflation, have surged by $5,003 since Donald Trump became president in January 2017. Median household income has now reached $65,976 – an all-time high and up more than 8 percent in 2019 dollars under the Trump presidency.

This data was compiled by the statisticians at Sentier Research, an economic research group whose founders have more than 30 years of experience at the Census Bureau in analyzing the monthly income numbers.

I reported last week in the Wall Street Journal that real median family income had soared by $4,146 under Trump through July 2019. The just-released August numbers from Sentier show a huge monthly gain of $857 in income per household.

These numbers contrast sharply with the 16 years prior to Trump’s presidency. In the eight years that George W. Bush was president, median income barely showed any gain, up just $401 thanks to the deep recession of 2008.

In the seven and a half years that Barack Obama was president, and not including the end of the recession, which Obama inherited, incomes inched up by $1,043 (June 2009 – January 2019). This means that in the 16 years before the Trump presidency, incomes rose by about $1,500 while in less than three years middle incomes have risen three times faster.

The contrast is even sharper when measured on a monthy basis. The monthly rise in incomes under Bush was $4. That number was $11 under Obama and $161 under Trump.

These income numbers are PRE-TAX, so they do NOT include the impact of the Trump tax cut. The Heritage Foundation estimates that the average household has saved $1,400 a year on their federal taxes from the 2017 Trump tax cut. This means many working-class families now have a $6,000 higher after-tax, and after-inflation paycheck today.

These surges in income, especially in the last several months, have occurred at exactly the time when many liberal economists and media talking heads were shouting “recession.” In reality middle-class families were enjoying a near-unprecedented income windfall and “the gains in income levels in recent months,” Sentier reports, “have been accelerating.“

These higher wage and salary incomes are no doubt related to the very tight labor market, which has given workers new bargaining power to ask for higher pay. Today there are more than seven million unfilled jobs in America – the highest number of surplus jobs in American history.

These latest income numbers also squarely contradict the claims by Democratic presidential candidates, such as former Vice President Joe Biden and Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders, who claim that all the gains from the Trump economy have gone to the rich and large corporations. Warren claimed earlier this year that workers had to work "two or three or four jobs" just to keep their incomes from falling.

No, this has been one of the biggest middle-class success stories in modern times, and it is a testament to the success of the Trump tax, regulatory and energy policies.


https://www.heritage.org/markets-and-finance/commentary/middle-class-incomes-surging-thanks-trump-policies

This is what a REAL President does.

Doesn't hinder business and in doing so destroy the career prospects of aspiring youth. Doesn't indulge in the insanity of installing 3rd bathrooms for transgender's. Ignores the screams of the PC zombies. Exposes corruption and the lies of the left. And more.

Richdude wrote on Feb 2^nd, 2020 at 12:58am:

This is what a REAL president does.

What, lie about household income and other easily checkable facts?

You may be right, dear.

Actually, you are.