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The President Takes a Campaign Donation
From the Pentagon

Trump uses more military funds to pay for the Big, Beautiful Border Wall.


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Nice 'FENCE' Mr. President, Very Nice 'FENCE' Sir!


Source:      NYT      
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That “big, beautiful wall” President Trump never tires of carrying on about is becoming one of the most expensive campaign stunts ever. It is a potentially unconstitutional one as well, as the Defense Department prepares to divert more billions of dollars authorized by Congress from a variety of weapons programs to generate bragging rights for Mr. Trump’s re-election campaign. On Thursday, the Pentagon formally notified Congress that it would divert $3.8 billion to the Department of Homeland Security to build about 177 miles of fencing along the Mexican border. That will bring to nearly $10 billion what the administration has taken from defense accounts for wall construction, after a skeptical Congress authorized only $1.375 billion........continued

Their own Frustrated & Biased MSM has this to say about them:

Source:      NYT    
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..........Congress, aware that the wall is costly nonsense, ought not allow itself to be sidestepped. It could vote down the state of emergency — and the White House veto that would follow. It could then finally embrace its duty to write a long-overdue comprehensive immigration bill, based on American traditions of tolerance and humanity, that would include a reasonable and functional border barrier...........

Congress keeps whingin' that it's Unconstitutional.......yet they haven't even tried to do anything whatsoever about their complaint......they don't even need the Supreme Court, & they know it.

So, why are they sidestepping the issue?

What are they afraid of?

Could it be they know that 'The Wall' is more popular with the People than any of their precious so called 'Pwesidential Candydates'?


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The Navy’s own ability to maintain its attack submarines has been strained in recent years, as the four public naval shipyards are overwhelmed with work on the Ohio-class ballistic missile submarines and the Nimitz-class aircraft carriers, with Los Angeles- and Virginia-class attack subs being the lowest priority work. These SSNs have often seen delayed inductions or delays once in the shipyard due to the workforce being tied up with higher-priority availabilities such as the Mexico-class fence and Trump's limo.

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Is that an American grate ?

Has Mexico coughed up?

*Double post.*

Portions of the U.S.-Mexico wall partially fell along the California border  due to cheap materials . Mexican enemies of America failed to pay a piece of peso and California ought to be Mexican.  The wall fell south of the border and drug-lords are carving up the profits .

Aussie wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:51pm:

Has Mexico coughed up?

It wasn't necessary to threaten Mexico with a continual onslaught of draconian tariffs & the likes any longer. The new trade agreement/treaty ....the 'USMCA'..... was jointly signed into law, & it insured that Mexico, for it's part, would be a very willing 'partner' in helping facilitate America's desires of a safe & maintainable border to the benefit of both nations.

As you know, no longer will asylum seekers be allowed to enter the USA until they are fully vetted & cleared by the USA for entry. While awaiting a determination on their claims for asylum, the asylum seekers must await the verdict in Mexico, regardless how long that may take, & having never been permitted to set one foot onto American soil. If they satisfy American scrutiny, they will eventually be permitted to enter the USA under strict conditions of immigration & assimilation.

Mexico has agreed to accept the cost of their part of this undertaking, on their side of the border. So even though their funds aren't being used to directly pay for the Wall as such, those costs they are footing, is considered their contribution to the American Wall effort, & their financial undertaking in this matter is considered to be quite substantial.  ;)


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Panther wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 7:20pm:

their funds aren't being used for the Wall .. those costs is considered their contribution to the American Wall effort,

Mexico is going to build..the...
Mexico is goin....to..
Trump is going To Build THe WALL !!!

Great video Panther. I wasn't sure if the new wall would be fitted with electronics, but it seems it will be.

Note the open ground that tribes of illegals could run across before, straight into the US. No chance now, not with all that's being installed

chimera wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 6:47pm:

Is that an American grate ?

No no, it's a big beautiful wall, not a fence. Mr Trump promised something you can see from space.

Remember, if there's one thing Mr Trump's good at, it's building things. Mr Trump said.

So he picks up the broken bits and makes the fence great again. A grate wall.

chimera wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 8:25pm:

So he picks up the broken bits and makes the fence great again. A grate wall.

Why not? Mr Trump never said it had to look nice. He never even said it had to stop people climbing over, or digging underneath - or even sawing through.

Panther? That's right, no?

Another stunning failure by Trump and a huge broken promise desperately attempted to be spun into a win by his most insecure of devoted supporters on this forum.

I've grown to expect no less from you Panther.

"Promises made = promises kept".

A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before?

Well done President Trump.

Richdude wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 4:03am:

A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before?

Locked and loaded , rocket man.

Richdude wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 4:03am:

"Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump.

So Mexico is paying for the wall?

Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again?

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:39am:

Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again?

Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 10:14am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"

No, he made it clear that it was Mexico's problem, they would pay for it. It was a key part of the promise.

You're changing the goal posts too.

Do you feel the same way with his Health Care changes? Is that another "Promise Kept"?

The Trump Towering Wall is business as usual. Mega-buck scheme , huge promises , loan is definite.  Loan falls over, huge promises , it's time to pay , Trump is screwed for the cash , extorts from Pentagon and embezzles taxes. 
PR : Mexico paid for Trump's perfect deal , suckers .

Panther wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 6:51pm: Has Mexico coughed up? It wasn't necessary to threaten Mexico with a continual onslaught of draconian tariffs & the likes any longer. The new trade agreement/treaty ....the 'USMCA'..... was jointly signed into law, & it insured that Mexico, for it's part, would be a very willing 'partner' in helping facilitate America's desires of a safe & maintainable border to the benefit of both nations. As you know, no longer will asylum seekers be allowed to enter the USA until they are fully vetted & cleared by the USA for entry. While awaiting a determination on their claims for asylum, the asylum seekers must await the verdict in Mexico, regardless how long that may take, & having never been permitted to set one foot onto American soil. If they satisfy American scrutiny, they will eventually be permitted to enter the USA under strict conditions of immigration & assimilation. Mexico has agreed to accept the cost of their part of this undertaking, on their side of the border. So even though their funds aren't being used to directly pay for the Wall as such, those costs they are footing, is considered their contribution to the American Wall effort, & their financial undertaking in this matter is considered to be quite substantial.  ;) ..

So you think that's Mexico paying for the wall?

I say. Anyone's free to claim asylum at any airport in the US, Panther. They're then released into the community while their application is processed.

The only ones ruled out are those pesky Muslims and shthole countries Mr Trump promised to ban UNTIL WE CAN WORK OUT WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON.

SEND THEM BACK, no?

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chimera wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 10:58am:

The Trump Towering Wall is business as usual. Mega-buck scheme , huge promises , loan is definite.  Loan falls over, huge promises , it's time to pay , Trump is screwed for the cash , extorts from Pentagon and embezzles taxes.  PR : Mexico paid for Trump's perfect deal , suckers .

Indeed, it's business as usual for Mr Trump: taking out a foreign loan to fund a building project.

The only difference here is the US can't declare bankruptcy and pin the debt on somebody else.

Negotiations aren't even underway for the land to build the wall. Estimates have come back at 30 million per mile, factoring in legal costs, etc, and that's just the price of the land.

I guess Mr Trump forgot the first rule in property development: first, buy the land.

Then, and only then, can you promise Mexico will pay.

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 10:20am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept" No, he made it clear that it was Mexico's problem, they would pay for it. It was a key part of the promise. You're changing the goal posts too. Do you feel the same way with his Health Care changes? Is that another "Promise Kept"?

I said it's more important to get the wall/fence built (it's technically a fence) and if Mexico doesn't pay their half of the cost, they are reneging on the universal principle of sharing the cost of a common barrier between two land masses.

On a much lower level, my pensioner mother was billed thousands of dollars by her Local Council for her share of the cost to erect a colorbond fence on her boundary because the Council owned the land on the other side of the fence. The Council never gave her a chance to seek her own quote. She couldn't afford the money the Council was asking so I chipped in half to help her out

Now, who's been paying for the monitoring of the border on the Mexican side for centuries, you think the US has been paying for it? No, the US pays for monitoring their side, and Mexico pays for monitoring the Mexican side, if they do any at all, but sharing costs is how it's supposed to work

Trump can make Mexico pay via a mandatory levy on their vehicles crossing the border until their share is paid if they don't pay voluntarily, but as I said, it's more important to get the barrier built, even if the US pays the whole cost, it will be money well spent

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 10:14am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight]

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Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides ALL Americans.........it provides a huge aid in keeping the foreign sh!thole county's low-lifes, muslim terrorists, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a flyin' royal rats ass who pays for it, or how much it fvvckin' costs.

President Trump is doing all that can be done to keep his promises, & doing the job he was hired to do, in spite of the demon-RAT obstructionists in Congress, & succeeding at that.......We will gladly reward him with 4 more years in the White House!!!


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Mexico has paid every last cent owing on the wall and if not there's  Obama Care. Trump's Act would have beneifited the federal budget by $119 billion over ten years so there's heaps in the bank for the Wall. Then Melania's savings account and Homeless Buffalo Fodder Charity.

Panther wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 11:52am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight] 100% Correct!!!   http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/BullsEye_Right.gif [size=14][font=Georgia][i]Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides.........a huge aid in keeping the sh!thole countries unwanted foreigners, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a rats ass who pays for it, or how much it costs.

Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history.

The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure.

Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

chimera wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 10:58am:

The Trump Towering Wall is business as usual. Mega-buck scheme , huge promises , loan is definite.  Loan falls over, huge promises , it's time to pay , Trump is screwed for the cash , extorts from Pentagon and embezzles taxes.  PR : Mexico paid for Trump's perfect deal , suckers .

That's exactly what his supports are saying, even Trump.

They're claiming the changes from NAFTA to USMCA means that Mexico is paying for the wall.

Sure, they don't know what the changes are nor do they understand how trade and tariffs work but the bottom line is, Mexico isn't paying the wall, not even via the USMCA.  Trump made it very very clear what he meant by Mexico paying for the wall,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7h6WOOh7M

He even said they'd make a one time payment, dashing all these claims about "paying in other ways",


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It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall:

It's still on his website,

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf

And even as recently as the Trump's rally in Wildwood New Jersey last month he said,


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In all due respect to Mexico, we like Mexico very much, and we’ve gotten along great with Mexico, and the President’s a friend of mine, and I think he’s doing a fantastic job. It’s a tough situation. But Mexico is in fact, you will soon find out, paying for the wall. Okay? They’d hit you with that. Now the wall is ultimately and very nicely being paid for by Mexico, and it’s an advantage for Mexico, too, when you think about it.

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Mexico hasn't paid a cent and all these claims of "they're paying in other ways" or "They'll reimburse us" were all made after the election when Trump found out Mexico won't pay so he had to change the goalposts, just like his supporters.

Fact: Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, even claiming they'd make a $5-$10 billion payment.  Mexico has done no such thing and Trump has had to take funds from the military outside of every official level of Government to get the funds for his wall.

chimera wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:04pm:

Mexico has paid every last cent owing on the wall and if not there's  Obama Care. Trump's Act would have beneifited the federal budget by $119 billion over ten years so there's heaps in the bank for the Wall. Then Melania's savings account and Homeless Buffalo Fodder Charity.

Good point, Chimera. Mexico will pay by stopping refugees on their side and taking out a loan from Melania.

Why the leftards don't understand that is anyone's guess. Still, the Real Americans don't care about their government's 4 trill deficit as long as it doesn't go into paying for health care, right?

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 11:56am:

but as I said, it's more important to get the barrier built, even if the US pays the whole cost, it will be money well spent

Which is a broken promise by Trump.  As is the cost of the wall.  He said it would cost him $10-$12 Billion because he's in construction, and Mexico would pay for it because he makes deals.

He's failed on both of those claims.

Now you, he and all his supporters are still trying to claim the wall as a win when it's multiple monumental failures covered by changing goalposts as you've just done.

Trump touted his skill as a negotiation and construction magnate and he has not delivered.

These are indisputable facts with video and direct quotes to back it up.

You don't care because you support Trump, I understand that, but fact is fact.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:52am: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight] 100% Correct!!!   http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/BullsEye_Right.gif Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides.........a huge aid in keeping the sh!thole countries unwanted foreigners, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a rats ass who pays for it, or how much it costs. Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

Millions, upon millions, upon millions of Americans will vote for President Trump in 2020, & they don't give a Royal Rat's Ass who pays for it........or where the President has to creatively get the funds to finance it........He's getting the Job done......Done for America.....Done for Americans!!!

Job Well Done President Trump.......Job Well Done!!

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SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:56am: but as I said, it's more important to get the barrier built, even if the US pays the whole cost, it will be money well spent Which is a broken promise by Trump.  As is the cost of the wall.  He said it would cost him $10-$12 Billion because he's in construction, and Mexico would pay for it because he makes deals. He's failed on both of those claims. Now you, he and all his supporters are still trying to claim the wall as a win when it's multiple monumental failures covered by changing goalposts as you've just done. Trump touted his skill as a negotiation and construction magnate and he has not delivered. These are indisputable facts with video and direct quotes to back it up. You don't care because you support Trump, I understand that, but fact is fact.

Bias doesn't care because he's not an American. Bias just wants to see a big beautiful wall built here in Australia, exactly like America.

Maybe it could keep out the Boongs, eh?

Boongs without ladders, anyway.

"The U.S. Navy (USN) has awarded a contract to Esco Marine, based in Brownsville, Texas, to tow, dismantle and recycle the decommissioned aircraft carrier the Saratoga. The contract was signed May 8, 2014. Under the contract, Esco has agreed to pay 1 cent for the aircraft carrier. The price reflects the net price proposed by Esco Marine, which considered the estimated proceeds from the sale of the scrap metal to be generated from dismantling."

Capone Godfather scrap dealers will be offered 6 US carriers at similar prices . THey will be welded into the California-New Mexico

Panther wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:16pm:

Millions, upon millions, upon millions of Americans will vote for President Trump in 2020, & they don't give a Royal Rat's Ass who pays for it........or where the President has to creatively get the funds to finance it

Exactly, so stop pretending you care about "promises made, promises kept" or lies made by anyone.

You're lying for Trump after all.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:05pm:

Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay?

You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States 

"The U.S. Navy (USN) has awarded a contract to Esco Marine, based in Brownsville, Texas, to tow, dismantle and recycle the decommissioned aircraft carrier the Saratoga. The contract was signed May 8, 2014. Under the contract, Esco has agreed to pay 1 cent for the aircraft carrier. The price reflects the net price proposed by Esco Marine, which considered the estimated proceeds from the sale of the scrap metal to be generated from dismantling."

Capone Godfather scrap dealers will be offered 6 US carriers at similar prices . They will be welded into the California-New Mexico Promised Land giving Godfather some concrete territory in Washington.

Panther wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:16pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:52am: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight] 100% Correct!!!   http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/BullsEye_Right.gif Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides.........a huge aid in keeping the sh!thole countries unwanted foreigners, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a rats ass who pays for it, or how much it costs. Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? Millions, upon millions, upon millions of Americans will vote for President Trump in 2020, & they don't give a Royal Rat's Ass who pays for it........or where the President has to creatively get the funds to finance it........He's getting the Job done......Done for America.....Done for Americans!!! Job Well Done President Trump.......Job Well Done!! http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif     http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif

Those voters probably don't know the REAL reason congress refused to approve the wall: it won't work.

Democrats and Republicans based their decision on a congressional report that showed the border needs a range of measures, including electrical signalling, drones, aerial surveillance and border personnel. Barriers have a role around high population areas, but they're pointless in remote places where people can just go under or over them.

The report was written by the border experts, including the ones who told Mr Trump a wall's no good because you need to see what's on the other side.

Now that's okay. You don't have to agree with everything Mr Trump says, dear. You're allowed to side with the experts occasionally.

Aren't you?

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States

Oh? The constitution doesn't include congressional representatives, erected to protect and defend the constitution?

The president is the Commander in Chief. Unless he can show he needs a wall to stop an invasion, a few steel slats aren't about defending and protecting, dear. The US is not at war with Ghengis Khan, you know.

Those 30,000 troops Mr Trump sent to the border got pretty bored after a while. You can only play so much poker and sleep with so many Mexican prostitutes. Yes, they did some invaluable work practicing their marching and saluting the American flag, but they could have done that back at the base.

You?

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:33pm:

Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:16pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:52am: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight] 100% Correct!!!   http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/BullsEye_Right.gif Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides.........a huge aid in keeping the sh!thole countries unwanted foreigners, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a rats ass who pays for it, or how much it costs. Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? Millions, upon millions, upon millions of Americans will vote for President Trump in 2020, & they don't give a Royal Rat's Ass who pays for it........or where the President has to creatively get the funds to finance it........He's getting the Job done......Done for America.....Done for Americans!!! Job Well Done President Trump.......Job Well Done!! http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif     http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif Those voters probably don't know the REAL reason congress refused to approve the wall: it won't work. Democrats and Republicans based their decision on a congressional report that showed the border needs a range of measures, including electrical signalling, drones, aerial surveillance and border personnel. Barriers have a role around high population areas, but they're pointless in remote places where people can just go under or over them. The report was written by the border experts, including the ones who told Mr Trump a wall's no good because you need to see what's on the other side. Now that's okay. You don't have to agree with everything Mr Trump says, dear. You're allowed to side with the experts occasionally. Aren't you?

Same experts that said Trump couldn't win the Presidency in 2016 became border experts now!! http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif

I want a Southern Border Wall between the USA & Mexico......period.

I will, because I am an American Citizen living in Australia, I repeat, I will vote for President Donald John Trump in November (actually earlier) because that wall WILL protect America, & keep UNWANTED non-Americans out!!!

You have a point there. The ranks of Latino marchers are militant. A loop-hole seems to be the Statue of Liberty where naval landings can be observed with aliens hitting the beaches.  A few machine-guns on the Statue are the minimum,  Space Force or similar will be welcome and bring happy happy clappy.

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:13pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:56am: but as I said, it's more important to get the barrier built, even if the US pays the whole cost, it will be money well spent Which is a broken promise by Trump.  As is the cost of the wall.  He said it would cost him $10-$12 Billion because he's in construction, and Mexico would pay for it because he makes deals. He's failed on both of those claims. Now you, he and all his supporters are still trying to claim the wall as a win when it's multiple monumental failures covered by changing goalposts as you've just done. Trump touted his skill as a negotiation and construction magnate and he has not delivered. These are indisputable facts with video and direct quotes to back it up. You don't care because you support Trump, I understand that, but fact is fact.

The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall", and he's now getting it built. No one really expected Mexico to come to the party with the money. My own belief was that Mexico would be obliged to pay half. However, the new fence is on US land and not precisely on the exact border I believe. If that is the case, my own opinion is that Mexico has the right to refuse payment, but if the new fence is exactly on the border, then Mexico is obliged to pay half, and to pay for monitoring of their side

I personally thought of Trump's statement of getting Mexico to pay for the wall as being neither here nor there, but I could sense that he'd get the money from somewhere no matter what, and he is, and the barrier is getting built, end of story

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

No one really expected Mexico to come to the party with the money. I personally thought of Trump's statement of getting Mexico to pay for the wall as being neither here nor there,

If Trump said it , then...
So Trump trashes lawful process.  So you trash Trump's credibility.
Good work .

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

I personally thought of Trump's statement of getting Mexico to pay for the wall as being neither here nor there, but I could sense that he'd get the money from somewhere no matter what, and he is, and the barrier is getting built, end of story

Lol    ;D

It was his number one, core campaign promise.

The one and only thing he pushed right throughout the campaigning process.

His primary focus was building the wall and getting Mexico to pay for it.

He could talk of nothing else.

Moreover, not one single inch of new wall has been built - not even a centimetre.

All that's been done is the regular maintenance/replacing of damaged sections, which had been going on long before the alleged child rapist became President.

You've been had, and you're too stupid to realise it.

There may be a new lock-up for crooked Hillary built on reclaimed swamp. But never-Trump enemies keep flooding in.  The Tower of London may be the way to go. Paying for it needs a genius.

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"

Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it.

That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim.

My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare?

Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare?

Panther wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:48pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:33pm: Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:16pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Panther wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:52am: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:14am: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39am: Richdude wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:03am: "Promises made = promises kept". A president that keeps his word!! When have you heard  that before? Well done President Trump. So Mexico is paying for the wall? Or are you retroactively changing his promise to suit his actions, ala changing the goalposts, again? Who pays for the wall isn't as important as getting the wall built. Did you see that open ground in the video? How easy would it be for illegals to scurry across flat ground like that? And the old barriers were nothing more than a speed bump. [highlight]A high wall or fence, whatever it's called, is badly needed. And as Rich said, "promise kept"[/highlight] 100% Correct!!!   http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/BullsEye_Right.gif Only the Butt-Hurt, Trump Hating, Leftist, KrustyKruntKrinton supporters get their panties in a twist because Trump didn't make Mexico pay for the wall, as if that means anything to us Americans.....Americans want the WALL first & foremost for the Security it provides.........a huge aid in keeping the sh!thole countries unwanted foreigners, people smugglers, drug cartels & gangs out. We couldn't give a rats ass who pays for it, or how much it costs. Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? Millions, upon millions, upon millions of Americans will vote for President Trump in 2020, & they don't give a Royal Rat's Ass who pays for it........or where the President has to creatively get the funds to finance it........He's getting the Job done......Done for America.....Done for Americans!!! Job Well Done President Trump.......Job Well Done!! http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/CapWave.gif     http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif Those voters probably don't know the REAL reason congress refused to approve the wall: it won't work. Democrats and Republicans based their decision on a congressional report that showed the border needs a range of measures, including electrical signalling, drones, aerial surveillance and border personnel. Barriers have a role around high population areas, but they're pointless in remote places where people can just go under or over them. The report was written by the border experts, including the ones who told Mr Trump a wall's no good because you need to see what's on the other side. Now that's okay. You don't have to agree with everything Mr Trump says, dear. You're allowed to side with the experts occasionally. Aren't you? Same experts that said Trump couldn't win the Presidency in 2016 became border experts now!! http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/chuckle002.gif I want a Southern Border Wall between the USA & Mexico......period. I will, because I am an American Citizen living in Australia, I repeat, I will vote for President Donald John Trump in November (actually earlier) because that wall WILL protect America, & keep UNWANTED non-Americans out!!!

No, dear, experts from the US Border Patrol. They're the ones who chase the illegals round the desert and LOCK THEM UP, you know?

And they're saying a wall isn't going to KEEP UNWANTED NON-AMERICANS OUT.

So I'm curious. Why do you want a wall?

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Great video Panther.

The video shows existing wall being replaced.

It's not new wall being constructed.

They're just doing regular maintenance, which has been going on long before the alleged child rapist became President.

No new segments of wall have been built, and no money has come from Mexico.

Once gain, Trump has failed miserably.

Mexico is offering 2 goal-posts on the border but Trump wants a deal to have US flags on both and have wheels fitted.

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 2:09pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm: The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall" Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it. That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim. My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare? Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare?

What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one

I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period

Does great America matter?  Fiddling the Mexican books and fiddling the Pentagon books is not great.  Except for a crim mentality.

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 3:12pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm: The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall" Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it. That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim. My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare? Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare? What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period

Trump's promise was always to build the wall and have Mexico to pay for it.  He suggested they'd have to make a one off $5-$10 billion dollar payment.  Payment in actual money.

Now not only has he not come good on that, but the costs have also blown out despite him promising he was the only one who could build the wall for $10-$12 billion while his other Republican Primary challengers would need $20-$30 billion to do it.

Well, turns out he needs that too, more even.

But since we're able to pick and choose what promises he makes matter, which need to be kept and which are like "core" promises, I suppose as I said Healthcare would get that same treatment, but what about his lies about Soleimani being an imminent threat, are he just going to pretend he never said that now that a White House memo has been released showing that he wasn't at all an imminent threat?

Like where does this "we will decide what things Trump says needs to be true or not" end?  Is it just campaign promises, or things he says as President too?

Hell, he even admitted after he was exonerated that he sent Giuliano off to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden, one of the things during the investigation and trial he claimed never ever happened.

Does that matter?  Or is he lying about lying? 2 wrongs make a right?

It used to be so simple.  Government officials were held to a strict standard of having to be law-abiding and being punished if their lies were exposed or they were proven to have broken the law.  But not Trump.  His supporters condone his lying, defend it and turn a blind eye to him breaking the law and the Republicans abandoning their oath of office to cover it up.

But with Trump, we just get to rewrite history or just ignore lies we don't like.

What did that become acceptable, and not only that, defended by the tards?

The same tards who wanted to lock Clinton up for being a liar...

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 3:12pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm: The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall" Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it. That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim. My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare? Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare? What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period

Not at all, dear. Mr Trump was very specific on this - he made that point. Specific. He promised a big, beautiful wall, over 30 feet high, from one ocean to the other. A wall the bad people can't get over or under. And right in the middle, he said, we'll put a nice big door where we can invite in anyone we want.

And I know how to build things, he said, believe me.

Mr Trump later considered moats with alligators and snakes, electric fencing, poisoned spikes, etc, but the planners wouldn't let him do it. Too PC, he said. No imagination.

So he settled on repairs to existing border fencing instead. How marvellous and glorious - more American than the State of Liberty, no? Mr Trump will try to fit a door in to let all the nice people in.

But if he had just said "high barrier", do you really think anyone would vote for that?

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 4:06pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm: SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 2:09pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 1:10pm: The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall" Yeah, so you're changing the promise to match the outcome so you can claim it's been kept, shedding all the parts that he hasn't kept, that being the price and who would pay for it. That's the textbook definition of changing the goalposts, which is the entire point of my claim. My next question is, are you doing the same for his moves on Healthcare? Are we celebrating another promise kept because he abolished Obamacare? What goalposts?, you're talking in cliches. The promise was to build a barrier, a high barrier, didn't you watch the drone video? Long stretches of that new high barrier getting concreted into the ground over that open ground that previously had only speed bumps as a barrier, if there was any at all in some places - they'd stop no one I've already given my honest opinion about who should pay. If the fence is exactly on the border line, then both parties should share the costs. Now go and annoy someone else with your health and Obama care. Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier and that's all that matters - period Trump's promise was always to build the wall and have Mexico to pay for it.  He suggested they'd have to make a one off $5-$10 billion dollar payment.  Payment in actual money. Now not only has he not come good on that, but the costs have also blown out despite him promising he was the only one who could build the wall for $10-$12 billion while his other Republican Primary challengers would need $20-$30 billion to do it. Well, turns out he needs that too, more even. But since we're able to pick and choose what promises he makes matter, which need to be kept and which are like "core" promises, I suppose as I said Healthcare would get that same treatment, but what about his lies about Soleimani being an imminent threat, are he just going to pretend he never said that now that a White House memo has been released showing that he wasn't at all an imminent threat? Like where does this "we will decide what things Trump says needs to be true or not" end?  Is it just campaign promises, or things he says as President too? Hell, he even admitted after he was exonerated that he sent Giuliano off to Ukraine to get dirt on Biden, one of the things during the investigation and trial he claimed never ever happened. Does that matter?  Or is he lying about lying? 2 wrongs make a right? It used to be so simple.  Government officials were held to a strict standard of having to be law-abiding and being punished if their lies were exposed or they were proven to have broken the law.  But not Trump.  His supporters condone his lying, defend it and turn a blind eye to him breaking the law and the Republicans abandoning their oath of office to cover it up. But with Trump, we just get to rewrite history or just ignore lies we don't like. What did that become acceptable, and not only that, defended by the tards? The same tards who wanted to lock Clinton up for being a liar...

Yes, but Hillary lied about her email server. Can you believe it?

Okay, maybe not lied, but she didn't tell the whole story. You know that, it's just a fact.

Obama, if you remember, lied about his religion and which country he was born in. Unbelievable, but the leftards let him get away with that, as usual.

Emails, Muslims, being born in Africa, is there anything the leftards won't lie about?

We need Mr Trump in the White House to restore dignity to the office once more, to bring people together again. If Mr Trump can't do that, who can?

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 3:12pm:

Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier ...

No, he's not.

He's repairing the existing "barrier", that's all.

The same repairs that have been going on long before the alleged child rapist become President.

He said he would build a wall, and that Mexico would pay for it.

"I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively.

"I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall."

He lied.

Thoughts?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 5:44pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:12pm: Trump is keeping his promise of building the barrier ... No, he's not. He's repairing the existing "barrier", that's all. The same repairs that have been going on long before the alleged child rapist become President. He said he would build a wall, and that Mexico would pay for it. "I would build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me, and I’ll build them very inexpensively. "I will build a great great wall on our southern border and I’ll have Mexico pay for that wall." He lied. Thoughts?

I think building costs must have gone up. Mr Trump just didn't factor in the cost of all those steel poles. Things just aren't cheap like they used to be, that's not Mr Trump's fault. They are made in America, you know. Mr Trump always buys American.

Don't worry, the Mexicans will pay for it one way or another, Mr Trump always promised that. I bet he stiffs them on a trade deal.

Suck on that, Mexico.

Quote:

Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL

Didn't think that Mexico's military had that much money to throw at a useless expensive pink elephant ?

Whoops - Mexico aren't paying are they, I forgot.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 6:08pm:

Quote: Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL Didn't think that Mexico's military had that much money to throw at a useless expensive pink elephant ? Whoops - Mexico aren't paying are they, I forgot.

https://i.imgflip.com/1yr3kv.jpg

In 2010, Mexicans were 10% of the US, 31,798,258 .  Although Bloomberg has Au$90,000,000, and Trump has Au$4.3 bn. not all citizens have many beans in the cup. But on average they can chuck in a few dimes and Mexicans do around 10% for Unca Donald and Disneyland Fun Park.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 6:08pm:

Quote: Trump uses Military Funds to Pay for the WALL Didn't think that Mexico's military had that much money to throw at a useless expensive pink elephant ? Whoops - Mexico aren't paying are they, I forgot.

No, they are. Mr Trump's planning on ripping them off in some way to get the money back.

It's how you're supposed to do business, you see.

chimera wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 6:14pm:

In 2010, Mexicans were 10% of the US, 31,798,258 .  Although Bloomberg has Au$90,000,000, and Trump has Au$4.3 bn. not all citizens have many beans in the cup. But on average they can chuck in a few dimes and Mexicans do around 10% for Unca Donald and Disneyland Fun Park.

That's another thing. Not only will Mr Trump get them to pay, he'll get them to vote for him as well.

We'll win so much we'll get tired of winning, no?

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States

Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 1:10pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:13pm: Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:56am: but as I said, it's more important to get the barrier built, even if the US pays the whole cost, it will be money well spent Which is a broken promise by Trump.  As is the cost of the wall.  He said it would cost him $10-$12 Billion because he's in construction, and Mexico would pay for it because he makes deals. He's failed on both of those claims. Now you, he and all his supporters are still trying to claim the wall as a win when it's multiple monumental failures covered by changing goalposts as you've just done. Trump touted his skill as a negotiation and construction magnate and he has not delivered. These are indisputable facts with video and direct quotes to back it up. You don't care because you support Trump, I understand that, but fact is fact. The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall", and he's now getting it built. No one really expected Mexico to come to the party with the money. My own belief was that Mexico would be obliged to pay half. However, the new fence is on US land and not precisely on the exact border I believe. If that is the case, my own opinion is that Mexico has the right to refuse payment, but if the new fence is exactly on the border, then Mexico is obliged to pay half, and to pay for monitoring of their side I personally thought of Trump's statement of getting Mexico to pay for the wall as being neither here nor there, but I could sense that he'd get the money from somewhere no matter what, and he is, and the barrier is getting built, end of story

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The overwhelming promise was to "Build a Wall"

Then why are they extending a pre existing fence ? Still no wall even planned to commence ?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States  Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

Of course you're kidding

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:35pm:

That's another thing. Not only will Mr Trump get them to pay, he'll get them to vote for him as well.

A Mex born in US can become El Presidente with a rusting steel unbeautiful from sea to shining sea.  He'll pay.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States  Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

I dare say he'll go down in history as the only alleged child rapist President to be impeached more than once.

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Gotta say this about Trump- he said he'd build that wall and it's getting built. And it's a absolute ripper.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:05pm: Oh? A Republican Congress rejected the wall, followed by a Democrat Congress and a month-long government shut-down, the longest in US history. The Ryan-led Congress put the case most succinctly: Congress would only consider authorising funds for a physical barrier after it could be shown which government programs would be cut to pay for it, as is the Republican policy on all new government expenditure. Why do you think Mr Trump promised Mexico would pay? You just like talking Karnal. The President is responsible for protecting and defending the Constitution. Obstructionist self interested globalist RINOs in the Republican party don't count in the scheme of things. The President has to largely ignore them when it comes to protecting the United States  Fail: No president has ever undermined the constitution the way that Trump has - not even close.

Yes, but you have to break a few eggs to get back at the leftards, no?

And those Mexicans - seriously. They've been playing America like a fool for years.

It's not Mexico's fault, they're just doing what the tinted races do. The Chinks, the Spics, the Towel-Heads, they've been ripping off Whitey since day 1.

The Saudis are okay. And the Turks - and the Russians. They might have done Sept 11, killed America's friends the Kurds, and sabotaged the 2016 erection, but who's sending in rapists, murderers, drug dealers and some, I assume, are good people?

Besides, Mr Trump has investments in Riyadh, Istanbul and Moscow, so he knows how the world works. He's just telling it like it is, no?

A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead???

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philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:02pm:

A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::)

Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::)

"Gotta say this about Trump- he said he'd build that wall and it's getting built."

Yes , President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is quietly proud of his partnership .  The construction by patriotic Mexicans has become a monument to their vision.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::)

Do you mean Lying Hillary?

Be specific, Homo.

chimera wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:11pm:

"Gotta say this about Trump- he said he'd build that wall and it's getting built." Yes , President Andrés Manuel López Obrador is quietly proud of his partnership .  The construction by patriotic Mexicans has become a monument to their vision.

You take that back, Chimera. Mr Trump thought of it first. The Mexicans are just jumping on the bandwagon.

Typical.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) Do you mean Lying Hillary? Be specific, Homo.

syphilitic Hillary babe.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:18pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) Do you mean Lying Hillary? Be specific, Homo. syphilitic Hillary babe.

No, that's someone else. No one would touch the despicable Lying Hillary, she wears pants suits.

You?

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::)

No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!!

:) :) :)

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :)

Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:25pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :) Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact.

Yes but if you mention Hillary the claim will be you are upset about loosing the election....Any criticism of Trump is only because you are a sore looser....I hope Trump wins another term just to see his stupid wall built!!!

:) :) :)

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:17pm:

. The Mexicans are just jumping on the bandwagon.

True , the Mexican Presidential Guard have 26 Military Bandwagons for Frontier Dance and Artillery . However, they jumped at Trump's invitation to siphon off funds from the Mexican Navy , bitter rivals for centuries, and fling it at the gringo ginger's gig . Oh joy happy yi yi.

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:31pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :) Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact. Yes but if you mention Hillary the claim will be you are upset about loosing the election....Any criticism of Trump is only because you are a sore looser....I hope Trump wins another term just to see his stupid wall built!!! :) :) :)

Homo can still ask if you'd prefer Hillary after Mr Trump wins the next erection, Phil. In fact, I think he will.

You?

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:39pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:31pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :) Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact. Yes but if you mention Hillary the claim will be you are upset about loosing the election....Any criticism of Trump is only because you are a sore looser....I hope Trump wins another term just to see his stupid wall built!!! :) :) :) Homo can still ask if you'd prefer Hillary after Mr Trump wins the next erection, Phil. In fact, I think he will. You?

blow it out your ass karnal.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:44pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:31pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :) Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact. Yes but if you mention Hillary the claim will be you are upset about loosing the election....Any criticism of Trump is only because you are a sore looser....I hope Trump wins another term just to see his stupid wall built!!! :) :) :) Homo can still ask if you'd prefer Hillary after Mr Trump wins the next erection, Phil. In fact, I think he will. You? blow it out your ass karnal.

That's deep, Homo. How do you think Mr Trump will get Mexico to pay?

Homo?

You've gone.

Trump-care medical program includes cocaine anaesthetic for voters to numb their minds.  Coca-Cola was named back in 1885 for its “medicinal” ingredient from Mexican Cocaine Inc. and now legal in Mex Macca.

Karnal wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:47pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:44pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:31pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :) Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact. Yes but if you mention Hillary the claim will be you are upset about loosing the election....Any criticism of Trump is only because you are a sore looser....I hope Trump wins another term just to see his stupid wall built!!! :) :) :) Homo can still ask if you'd prefer Hillary after Mr Trump wins the next erection, Phil. In fact, I think he will. You? blow it out your ass karnal. That's deep, Homo. How do you think Mr Trump will get Mexico to pay?

He no longer needs to, but if he did, the mechanisms for tariffs, & fees on money transfer transactions are all still fully available & implementable.

The reason he no longer needs to is because the Mexicans have signed the new trade agreement called USMCA. This NAFTA replacement, as President Trump promised, is in the better interests of the American People.....unlike NAFTA.....

Other separate agreements that Mexico also made were to look after any & all asylum-seekers wishing to enter the USA, to be kept on the Mexican side of the border, while America decides whether their claims were legitimate or not, & also decide their fitness to enter the USA. 

Furthermore, another part of that agreement is that if any asylum-seeker's claim were refused, Mexico, at Mexican expense, would facilitate returning these false asylum seekers to wherever it was they came from.

Being Mexico has to date been quite willing to assist the USA as they have, there isn't any reason to threaten Mexico with the draconian tariffs & fees that might be placed on them if they were less willing.



So again.........Promises Made, Promises Kept!!!! Excellent Job Mr. President, A Very Excellent Job Indeed!!!!!


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He's got the red and white design for the Steel Wall behind him.  Money's in his coat wallet.  thank you Mr Hooker.

Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:03am:

He no longer needs to, but if he did, the mechanisms for tariffs, & fees on money transfer transactions are all still fully available & implementable. The reason he no longer needs to is because the Mexicans have signed the new trade agreement called USMCA. This NAFTA replacement, as President Trump promised, is in the better interests of the American People.....unlike NAFTA.....

So,


SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 12:08pm:

That's exactly what his supports are saying, even Trump. They're claiming the changes from NAFTA to USMCA means that Mexico is paying for the wall. Sure, they don't know what the changes are nor do they understand how trade and tariffs work but the bottom line is, Mexico isn't paying the wall, not even via the USMCA.  Trump made it very very clear what he meant by Mexico paying for the wall, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7h6WOOh7M He even said they'd make a one time payment, dashing all these claims about "paying in other ways", Quote: It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall: It's still on his website, https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf And even as recently as the Trump's rally in Wildwood New Jersey last month he said, [quote]In all due respect to Mexico, we like Mexico very much, and we’ve gotten along great with Mexico, and the President’s a friend of mine, and I think he’s doing a fantastic job. It’s a tough situation. But Mexico is in fact, you will soon find out, paying for the wall. Okay? They’d hit you with that. Now the wall is ultimately and very nicely being paid for by Mexico, and it’s an advantage for Mexico, too, when you think about it.

Video Link

Mexico hasn't paid a cent and all these claims of "they're paying in other ways" or "They'll reimburse us" were all made after the election when Trump found out Mexico won't pay so he had to change the goalposts, just like his supporters.

Fact: Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, even claiming they'd make a $5-$10 billion payment.  Mexico has done no such thing and Trump has had to take funds from the military outside of every official level of Government to get the funds for his wall.[/quote]

You're still talking poo.

Trump lied to the people and now you're trying to rationalise it as usual.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19^th, 2020 at 8:04pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::)

Well they did, actually.

3,000,000 more people voted for Clinton than the alleged child rapist.

I thought you knew that.

SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:15am:

Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:03am: He no longer needs to, but if he did, the mechanisms for tariffs, & fees on money transfer transactions are all still fully available & implementable. The reason he no longer needs to is because the Mexicans have signed the new trade agreement called USMCA. This NAFTA replacement, as President Trump promised, is in the better interests of the American People.....unlike NAFTA..... So, SadKangaroo wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:08pm: That's exactly what his supports are saying, even Trump. They're claiming the changes from NAFTA to USMCA means that Mexico is paying for the wall. Sure, they don't know what the changes are nor do they understand how trade and tariffs work but the bottom line is, Mexico isn't paying the wall, not even via the USMCA.  Trump made it very very clear what he meant by Mexico paying for the wall, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc7h6WOOh7M He even said they'd make a one time payment, dashing all these claims about "paying in other ways", Quote: It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall: It's still on his website, https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/Pay_for_the_Wall.pdf And even as recently as the Trump's rally in Wildwood New Jersey last month he said, [quote]In all due respect to Mexico, we like Mexico very much, and we’ve gotten along great with Mexico, and the President’s a friend of mine, and I think he’s doing a fantastic job. It’s a tough situation. But Mexico is in fact, you will soon find out, paying for the wall. Okay? They’d hit you with that. Now the wall is ultimately and very nicely being paid for by Mexico, and it’s an advantage for Mexico, too, when you think about it. Video Link Mexico hasn't paid a cent and all these claims of "they're paying in other ways" or "They'll reimburse us" were all made after the election when Trump found out Mexico won't pay so he had to change the goalposts, just like his supporters. Fact: Trump said Mexico would pay for the wall, even claiming they'd make a $5-$10 billion payment.  Mexico has done no such thing and Trump has had to take funds from the military outside of every official level of Government to get the funds for his wall.

You're still talking poo.

Trump lied to the people and now you're trying to rationalise it as usual.[/quote]

It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....My America, the Best Country in the World....President Donald Trump's America!!!!

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Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:03am:

So again.........Promises Made, Promises Kept!!!!

Only 17% of the alleged child rapist's campaign promises have been kept.

Among the promises broken: a wall, paid for by Mexico.

Not one single inch of new wall has been built, and not a single peso has come from Mexico.

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greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:33am:

Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:03am: So again.........Promises Made, Promises Kept!!!! Only 17% of the alleged child rapist's campaign promises have been kept. Among the promises broken: a wall, paid for by Mexico. Not one single inch of new wall has been built, and not a single peso has come from Mexico. https://assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com/thumbnails/5egj0xhh-720.jpg

It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....My America, the Best Country in the World....President Donald Trump's America!!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............

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Trump promises to build a wall to stop Ukrainians invading Russia. Ukraine will pay but they refuse to dig any dirt.

Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:33am: Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:03am: So again.........Promises Made, Promises Kept!!!! Only 17% of the alleged child rapist's campaign promises have been kept. Among the promises broken: a wall, paid for by Mexico. Not one single inch of new wall has been built, and not a single peso has come from Mexico. https://assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com/thumbnails/5egj0xhh-720.jpg It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....My America, the Best Country in the World....President Donald Trump's America!!!!

Only 17% of the alleged child rapist's campaign promises have been kept.

Among the promises broken: a wall, paid for by Mexico.

Not one single inch of new wall has been built, and not a single peso has come from Mexico.

Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:33am: Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:03am: So again.........Promises Made, Promises Kept!!!! Only 17% of the alleged child rapist's campaign promises have been kept. Among the promises broken: a wall, paid for by Mexico. Not one single inch of new wall has been built, and not a single peso has come from Mexico. https://assets-jpcust.jwpsrv.com/thumbnails/5egj0xhh-720.jpg It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....My America, the Best Country in the World....President Donald Trump's America!!!! God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............ http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif http://www.33sm.ml/smileys/usa-flag-89.gif https://i.imgur.com/0krOAUL.jpg .

That is one of the many characteristics of Americans I like

Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:26am:

It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....My America, the Best Country in the World....President Donald Trump's America!!!!

Ok, maybe we should put it into terms even your child-like view of politics can understand.

Obama and the Affordable Healthcare Act.

The "core" promise was to ensure everyone was covered including pre-existing conditions.

Obama also said you could keep your doctor. 

During the implementation of the plan, the insurance companies had to make structural changes which meant some doctors that were under their umbrella had to be let go.  This meant if you were using that doctor but your insurer no longer covered them under their umbrella, you can't choose that doctor anymore or your employer may change insurance providers and in some cases, doctors chose not to participate in the networks offered in the marketplaces so they can't be chosen either.

So by the Trump logic, that shouldn't matter because it wasn't the core promise.  Obama passed the ACA and people were able to get coverage, even for pre-existing conditions.

Case closed, queue the spam,


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But wait, those who didn't like Obama from Fox News to Republicans to posters on this forum, they trying to crucify Obama because of this.

What..?

It wasn't a core promise, because I said so, so it doesn't matter, right?

The policy itself didn't include measures that would prevent people from keeping their current plans or their current doctors, but the implementation did.

It's the same with Trump.  He promised Mexico would pay for the wall, with a literal one-time payment of $5-$10 billion for starters.

Now the US Tax Payer is footing the bill with claims of getting the money back from Mexico, claims being made from a man notorious for not paying his bills or when the debt gets too high just giving up and declaring bankruptcy.

So what gives?

Why the huge double standard?

Why is it ok to allow Trump to break his promises and not only that, flat out lie and claim he kept them, but you'll go your opponents like a rabid dog for the same thing?

Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....[b]My America ...

Department of Homeland Security (DHS) data shows that the main source of illegal immigration into the United States are people who arrive legally, by sea and air, and then overstay their visas.

How can a wall stop that?

I'm curious.

Panther wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:03am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:47pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:44pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:39pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:31pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:25pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:22pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:04pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 8:02pm: A wall....Spending billions of dollars to build a wall which will do SFA....I cannot believe people actually voted for this dickhead??? ::) ::) ::) Would you have rathered they voted for Hillary? ::) No....Hillary does not appeal to anyone not even Bonking Bill....The current crop of Politicians in America look like crooks and probably are....Trump is a complete fraud Mr Hammer and I am surprised you support him....I couldn't really care less if Trump gets in for another 4 years mate....I just think he is a dickhead!!! :) :) :) Yes, but if somebody raises the topic of Mr Trump, you're supposed to ask if they'd prefer Hillary, it's just a fact. Yes but if you mention Hillary the claim will be you are upset about loosing the election....Any criticism of Trump is only because you are a sore looser....I hope Trump wins another term just to see his stupid wall built!!! :) :) :) Homo can still ask if you'd prefer Hillary after Mr Trump wins the next erection, Phil. In fact, I think he will. You? blow it out your ass karnal. That's deep, Homo. How do you think Mr Trump will get Mexico to pay? He no longer needs to, but if he did, the mechanisms for tariffs, & fees on money transfer transactions are all still fully available & implementable. The reason he no longer needs to is because the Mexicans have signed the new trade agreement called USMCA. This NAFTA replacement, as President Trump promised, is in the better interests of the American People.....unlike NAFTA..... Other separate agreements that Mexico also made were to look after any & all asylum-seekers wishing to enter the USA, to be kept on the Mexican side of the border, while America decides whether their claims were legitimate or not, & also decide their fitness to enter the USA.  Furthermore, another part of that agreement is that if any asylum-seeker's claim were refused, Mexico, at Mexican expense, would facilitate returning these false asylum seekers to wherever it was they came from. Being Mexico has to date been quite willing to assist the USA as they have, there isn't any reason to threaten Mexico with the draconian tariffs & fees that might be placed on them if they were less willing. So again.........Promises Made, Promises Kept!!!! Excellent Job Mr. President, A Very Excellent Job Indeed!!!!! [move]God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............God Bless AMERICA............God Bless President Donald John Trump............[size=14]God Bless President Donald John Trump....

Trade agreements are for private companies, Panther. The US government doesn't make any money out of them. Sending Mexicans back doesn't increase US revenue either. It COSTS the government money to detain, try and transport them. The US hasn't imposed any tariffs or fees on Mexicans. That's the whole point of NAFTA and its revisions.

No, I'm wondering about making Mexico pay for the Wall.

Do you think Mr Trump just meant he'd punish Mexicans?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 10:39am:

Panther wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:48am: It seems only you, & the other butt-hurt, KrustyKrotchKlinton supporting Trump haters......who go completely apoplectic at the mere mention of his name....are the only ones who actually care who pays for the wall. I don't, just as long as it's built to keep out the UNWELCOME from entering into America.....[b]My America ... Department of Homeland Security (DHS) data shows that the main source of illegal immigration into the United States are people who arrive legally, by sea and air, and then overstay their visas. How can a wall stop that? I'm curious.

9-11 the planes into the wall.

Case closed.

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"The Trump administration is again raiding Pentagon funds in order to defy Congress and pay for the construction of a border wall between the US and Mexico.
The Department of Defence is diverting $US3.8 billion from military projects to pay for the barrier, the Pentagon announced Thursday.
The administration is pulling almost $US1 billion from Navy shipbuilding projects, including the construction of a large amphibious assault ship and a fast transport ship.

In September, the Pentagon approved the reallocation of $US3.6 billion in military construction funds to build a barrier spanning 175 miles along the southern border. On Thursday, the Pentagon announced that “the Secretary of Defence authorised support of $US3.8B to build approximately 177 miles of fencing that will help to protect our borders.”

Among the projects affected this time around are two Navy shipbuilding projects: an America-class amphibious assault ship and a Spearhead-class Expeditionary Fast Transport Ship. The Pentagon is pulling $US650 million and $US261 million, respectively, from the projects.

Another $US180 million are being pulled from a Navy P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol aircraft project."

"Mexican" is Trump's obscene abusive name for the US Navy which gets suckered by his protection racket .  The hatred goes way back to when an aircraft-carrier was used for betting stakes in Trump's casino and he lost way big.

First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall.
Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't.
Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall like he said he would.

Talk about Arthur and Martha.

Bring back the Squad, at least they were a good laugh when they tried to attack.

First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall.
Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay.
Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico.

Talk about Mexur and Mextha.

Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack.

Yes, Chimera, but Matty probably didn't read the bit about Mexico paying.

An easy mishtake to make.

chimera wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 6:51pm:

First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack.

Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad.

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad.

You see? One way or another.

Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too.

They're tinted.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:15pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted.

Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son?

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:04pm:

I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, .

May I suggest slicing say $10billion off the USAF , taking cream off Space Force and the balance from Bloomberg after a session at Guantanamo Bay? Launder it through Trump Treasury Inc , back-load on Mexican Cocaine Submarine Co. , get the President's signature  and load cash on Mexican Air Force bomber , a Pilatus PC9 to Washington.


Why are you not surprised?

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:20pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son?

I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall?

Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps?

Don't answer that. Who's Matty?

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:39pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:20pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son? I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall? Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps? Don't answer that. Who's Matty?

Who is Abu?

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:41pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:39pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:20pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son? I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall? Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps? Don't answer that. Who's Matty? Who is Abu?

He crashed the Islam board and made FD "change his mind", remember?

You can answer about the Wall when you feel ready, dear. It's a hard question, I know.

Year 9 maths, innit.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:48pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:41pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:39pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:20pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son? I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall? Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps? Don't answer that. Who's Matty? Who is Abu? He crashed the Islam board and made FD "change his mind", remember? You can answer about the Wall when you feel ready, dear. It's a hard question, I know. Year 9 maths, innit.

nobody gives a rats ass about your question karnal.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:58pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:48pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:41pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:39pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:20pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son? I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall? Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps? Don't answer that. Who's Matty? Who is Abu? He crashed the Islam board and made FD "change his mind", remember? You can answer about the Wall when you feel ready, dear. It's a hard question, I know. Year 9 maths, innit. nobody gives a rats ass about your question karnal.

What was the question again, never mind.

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:00pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:58pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:48pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:41pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:39pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:20pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son? I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall? Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps? Don't answer that. Who's Matty? Who is Abu? He crashed the Islam board and made FD "change his mind", remember? You can answer about the Wall when you feel ready, dear. It's a hard question, I know. Year 9 maths, innit. nobody gives a rats ass about your question karnal. What was the question again, never mind.

Something about paying for the wall. he's been banging on about it for months Zeej.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:02pm:

Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:00pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:58pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:48pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:41pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:39pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:20pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:15pm: Johnnie wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:04pm: chimera wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:51pm: First the Trump haters were attacking Trump for saying he was going to make Mexico build a wall. Then they were attacking Trump for saying he was going to build a wall but didn't get Mexico to pay. Now they are attacking Trump for building the wall without Mexico. Talk about Mexur and Mextha. Bring back the promise, at least it was a good laugh when they tried to attack. Don't count your chickens until they have well and truly hatched, I wouldn't be surprised if Trump the Cunning makes Mexico pay,, one way or the other. Then we will be in for a good laugh, with or without the Gals from the Squad. You see? One way or another. Matty wants Mr Trump to rip them off too. They're tinted. Trump is a fair man but don't be fooled, you never know what he has got up his sleeve, an Ace of spades,, a wild card, the Joker, the Trump card perhaps. Pick a card any card, do you gamble son? I see. So when you say "pay", do you mean the Mexican government giving Mr Trump 300 bil to pay for his wall? Or do you mean something else? A wild card, a joker, a Trump card perhaps? Don't answer that. Who's Matty? Who is Abu? He crashed the Islam board and made FD "change his mind", remember? You can answer about the Wall when you feel ready, dear. It's a hard question, I know. Year 9 maths, innit. nobody gives a rats ass about your question karnal. What was the question again, never mind. Something about paying for the wall. he's been banging on about it for months Zeej.

Thanks, I can never quite get the gist or tangent in its posts.

Panther wrote on Feb 18^th, 2020 at 7:20pm:

Aussie wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 6:51pm: Has Mexico coughed up? It wasn't necessary to threaten Mexico with a continual onslaught of draconian tariffs & the likes any longer. The new trade agreement/treaty ....the 'USMCA'..... was jointly signed into law, & it insured that Mexico, for it's part, would be a very willing 'partner' in helping facilitate America's desires of a safe & maintainable border to the benefit of both nations. As you know, no longer will asylum seekers be allowed to enter the USA until they are fully vetted & cleared by the USA for entry. While awaiting a determination on their claims for asylum, the asylum seekers must await the verdict in Mexico, regardless how long that may take, & having never been permitted to set one foot onto American soil. If they satisfy American scrutiny, they will eventually be permitted to enter the USA under strict conditions of immigration & assimilation. Mexico has agreed to accept the cost of their part of this undertaking, on their side of the border. So even though their funds aren't being used to directly pay for the Wall as such, those costs they are footing, is considered their contribution to the American Wall effort, & their financial undertaking in this matter is considered to be quite substantial.  ;) ..

You could have saved a lot of words and a little integrity by just saying NO

Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:10pm:

Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ?

why build a wall you can't see behind muppet?

The Mexico GDP figure in the third quarter of 2019 was $253 billion , where Australia had $279 billion.  Mexico tax was about 16%GDP or $160 bn.  The Wall is about $20bn and easily payable without any more from Australia.  The US is not bombing Mexico so there's a saving straight away.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet?

At least it would keep the rabbits out ?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:22pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? At least it would keep the rabbits out ?

don't worry about it then.

chimera wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:20pm:

The Mexico GDP figure in the third quarter of 2019 was $253 billion , where Australia had $279 billion.  Mexico tax was about 16%GDP or $160 bn.  The Wall is about $20bn and easily payable without any more from Australia.  The US is not bombing Mexico so there's a saving straight away.

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The Wall is about $20bn

Then they should have built the wall because the fence they are building is optimistically more than double that much.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet?

Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ?

Mexico were meant to pay to build a wall but instead we have the US military paying to building a fence ?

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:13pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet?

I know. You just said it a bit differently when you told me how it would be built, remember?

You described the concrete slabs being trucked in and assembled with admiration - a great engineering feat. You said how only Mr Trump would ever do it, this was America's only chance.

You just left out the bit about why build a wall you can't see behind muppet.

An easy mishtake to make, no?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:29pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ?

This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:32pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures.

I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo.

What made you change your mind?

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:34pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind?

You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:32pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures.

Yes and they are cutting through the fence and using ladders to climb over it already.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind? You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them.

You just make it up as you go - Trump promised an impenetrable wall.

The war in Iraq exceeded $800 billion, while total post-9/11 operations cost more than $1 trillion.

If war were contained to North Korea, the cost of war between the U.S. and North Korea might fall between $800 billion and $1 trillion. If war spreads beyond North Korea, it could easily escalate into the trillions — and significantly add to America’s staggering national debt. This is why Trump sends late-night tweets to the Mexican Treasury , more than to his beloved Kimmy in Pyongyang.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:41pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:39pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind? You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them. You just make it up as you go - Trump promised an impenetrable wall.

A group of cons busted out of Alcatraz!! Nothing is impenetrable. But it can hold wetbacks up. I couldn't give a rats ass if you agree with me or not.

Which is easier?  To fund a future major military operation to secure national borders - or spend money now to build a 'fence'?

This is like the argument about nuking the Ho Chi Minh Trail... better to sow it with radioactive waste and let it perish for many thousand years .... better their zealots than yours...

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:39pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind? You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them. You just make it up as you go - Trump promised an impenetrable wall. A group of cons busted out of Alcatraz!! Nothing is impenetrable. But it can hold wetbacks up. I couldn't give a rats ass if you agree with me or not.

The Great Wall of Wetback.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:39pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind? You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them.

No, I asked you how it would be built, remember? I asked, how do they get all those bricks up so quick? The Great Wall of China took decades.

You told me how it's all pre-assembled and trucked in. You can build it in no time at all. A big concrete wall from coast to coast. It's the only thing that going to work babe, that's what you said.

What made you change your mind to a fence and "a range of obstacles"?

That's what The Democrats wanted.

[quote] However, as of November 2019, while at least 76 miles of existing wall has been replaced or reinforced during Trump's presidency, no new wall has yet been completed./quote]

Don't know if the wall has started but it hadn't 2.5 months ago.

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:46pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:39pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind? You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them. You just make it up as you go - Trump promised an impenetrable wall. A group of cons busted out of Alcatraz!! Nothing is impenetrable. But it can hold wetbacks up. I couldn't give a rats ass if you agree with me or not.

It is Trump you are disagreeing with not me.

I just don't care if an insane President wants to spend most of a trillion dollars building a 3,000 Km fence that won't even keep rabbits out.

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:49pm:

Which is easier?  To fund a future major military operation to secure national borders - ...

No not the G-G and tanks. Again.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:52pm:

Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:46pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:41pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:39pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:34pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:32pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:29pm: Mr Hammer wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:13pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:10pm: Is it some type of fraud to take money to build a wall but to then build a fence instead ? why build a wall you can't see behind muppet? Well now Svenske kocken - how about because that is what you committed to do ? This isn't a just a slapped together fence. It's properly designed and pick from several submissions. it's designed so you can see if people a massing behind it. The wall won't be just one obstacle but a seies of obstacles and measures. I know, but you said a series of obstacles wouldn't work, remember? Just a Wall. You were very specific about that, Homo. What made you change your mind? You are getting me mixed up with somebody else dear. The wall won't be totally people proof. In some places it will . The idea is to hold them up so they can get border patrol out to bag them. You just make it up as you go - Trump promised an impenetrable wall. A group of cons busted out of Alcatraz!! Nothing is impenetrable. But it can hold wetbacks up. I couldn't give a rats ass if you agree with me or not. It is Trump you are disagreeing with not me. I just don't care if an insane President wants to spend most of a trillion dollars building a 3,000 Km fence that won't even keep rabbits out.

So why are you having a conniption fit over it then?