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Title: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 18th, 2020 at 6:40pm COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do not ? WWW search.... Tom Cotton: China Lying About Magnitude, Origin Of Coronavirus, ‘Worse Than Chernobyl’ Quote:
So far, 1,872 reported dead. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:27am
Nothing.
Question answered |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Fuzzball on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:32am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:27am:
He didn't ask what YOU know. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:34am Fuzzball wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:32am:
I know he asked what Tom Cotton knows. And I answered it. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:56am Quote:
Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:27am:
Oh really ? bojack, I'm just asking a question [based upon what a person has reputedly declared]. question = = a sentence worded or expressed so as to elicit information. You are making a statement. A statement based upon what knowledge ? statement = = a definite or clear expression of something in speech or writing. a formal account of facts or events, especially one given to the police or in court. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:57am
How about we flip it the other way, wheres the evidence he knows anything other than making a random statement?
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Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:12am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:57am:
How about we flip it the other way...... bojack, You declared that Tom Cotton doesn't know anything. Where is your evidence ....that Tom Cotton doesn't know anything ? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:23am Yadda wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:12am:
Well he hasn't produced any evidence of anything, so therefore based on the available evidence, he doesn't know anything. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Fuzzball on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:43pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:23am:
So says Judge Buttcrack..... ;D |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:47pm Fuzzball wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:43pm:
Or so says the lack of anything being produced by Yadda to show that Cotton knows anything. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by PZ547 on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:01pm
Tom Cotton revealed himself to be a pretty clued-in guy during the televised meeting with military brass last week
the fact he was talking facts while most others who'd be expected to have their fingers on the pulse were continuing to waffle reassurance about it's just the flu |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:05pm PZ547 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:01pm:
Who said it was just the flu? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by PZ547 on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:09pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:05pm:
sounds as if you have a lot of catching up to do |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:11pm PZ547 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:09pm:
Not really, how about just stating who said it was just the flu. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:42pm Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 6:40pm:
Nothing, from what I've read. What do you think he knows? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by PZ547 on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:44pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:11pm:
as I've said already, if you don't know means you have a lot of catching up to do. Catch up with American posters, for example. That's where you'll learn about the 'it's only the flu' meme |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Bojack Horseman on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:46pm PZ547 wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:44pm:
Sorry I didn't know you were talking about Americans. I assumed you meant intelligent people. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Aussie on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:50pm
Let me see.....knowing a bit about BH's profession and qualifications, and knowing what people post here.....this is a tough choice to make.
:D |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by PZ547 on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:54pm Aussie wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:50pm:
so ends another OzPol thread give yourselves a pat Do you do it so people will depart OzPol for those other forums? is it working? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by PZ547 on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:08pm |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:18pm Fuzzball wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:43pm:
Buttcrack or not, it's the logical conclusion. Using the conspiritard logic of, "I ask the question, implying an answer, now you go look for anything to justify that answer, ignoring anything that doesn't, thereby doing 'research' and now you're special" then sure, he knows more but no proof is required. He could bust this whole thing wide open if he wanted to, BOOOM! |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:57pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:18pm:
sadkanga, That, is a misrepresentation of what was presented in the OP. What was said in the OP, WAS A STATEMENT [by Tom Cotton], NOT A QUESTION. in OP.... Quote:
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Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 19th, 2020 at 5:38pm Yadda wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 4:57pm:
[/quote] The thread title is, "What does Tom Cotton know, that we do not". If you go to analyse what he's written, basically he's not bringing any new evidence to the table. He's questioning the evidence presented by China, which everyone is, and sources like the WHO or the CDC are reporting what China is saying but accompanying that with corroborated research that has been done outside of China. He's saying the evidence doesn't show that the outbreak originated from the Food Market at Wuhan, but offers no evidence of where it did come from. So he is questioning the official story by China, which is wise and prudent until there is a review of their findings or parallel research (again peer-reviewed) that comes to the same conclusion, but he's offering no evidence that could lead to a competing hypothesis to the origin of the outbreak. So, as Bojack said in answer to the question you posted as the thread title, Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 10:27am:
I stand by my comment. The sort of question you've asked is what conspiratards do which often leads them to the sort of conclusions like, "Well, we don't know what the UFO is, therefore it must be aliens" No. There is no evidence to suggest that, and a lack of evidence can't prove that either. But people will see the conspiracies online and posit that it's man-made and it escaped, or Trump covertly infected China to help with trade negotiations, etc etc. All with Zero evidence to corroborate but it makes the reader/poster feel special because now they think they know that Tom Cotton does. They are now better than those who don't know, they're special. They keep digging and before you know it, they share it, it snowballs and then eventually people start drinking bleach in the form of MMS to "cure" COVID-19. (Yes, this is happening, but no, it's not where all paths lead. It is, however, what happens when QTards intersect with these COVID-19 conspiratards) This is why it's important now, to stand up for the truth and rely on the facts and trusted sourced like the CDC and the WHO before the dullards and the gullible poison their children or let them die just like the other dangerous conspiracy theories. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Karnal on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:18pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 12:47pm:
Yes, but Yadda did provide you with a definition of the word question, dear. Take it or leave it. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Karnal on Feb 19th, 2020 at 11:20pm greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 19th, 2020 at 3:42pm:
question = = a sentence worded or expressed so as to elicit information |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Richdude on Feb 20th, 2020 at 3:31am
I don't know what he knows - if anything.
What I do know is that the CCP is suppressing and punishing those posting alternative info. Even pressuring Facebook, Youtube, Twitter and other online media to censure material. How much control has China have over American media? Also we know that 740 million Chinese are in lockdown and if this is a virus with a very long gestation period - we are all in peril. Yet the CCP refuses to allow CDC personal in to China and REAL info out. The World needs to know what's going on in China - they have a duty to humanity. Isn't totalitarian'ism wonderful!! |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:09am Richdude wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 3:31am:
Citation needed. Most accepted sources are putting the number at 500 million and even then, that's not people "locked down", that's people subjected to restricted movement. The only cities locked down are Wuhan, Huanggang, Ezhou and a few others in Hubei province. Shanghai and Beijing have only put movement restrictions in place for some smaller communities such as building blocks or neighbourhoods. Accurate information is important, especially when you're going on about us not knowing what is real coming out of China. You flippantly spreading incorrect information with the justification of "well we know", nah mate. Do a better job. Quote:
After supporting Trump firing all those doing their duty during the Impeachment investigation, you've lost the right to complain about totalitarianism. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 20th, 2020 at 11:12pm Yadda wrote on Feb 18th, 2020 at 6:40pm:
WWW search.... CORONAVIRUS : 50 000 DEAD, 1.5M INFECTED AND 250M QUARANTINED ACCORDING TO CHINESE BILLIONAIRE Is this a joke ? Or the truth ? When dealing with China, a brutal, authoritarian regime, which we know, routinely lies about itself, and about the circumstances of its citizen-slaves, how can we know where the truth lays ? Who can we trust ? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:51am
Still no infections in Indonesia, God is great.
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Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by mortdooley on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:53am
Is it time to stock up, stay home and lock our doors?
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Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:55am
Do bats fly south in winter.
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Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:54am Mortdooley wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:53am:
I went to the supermarket today and there were no baked beans, I saw someone cough and I freaked out, I am heading back into the bush. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:08am Johnnie wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:51am:
LOL |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:20am Johnnie wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:54am:
Within every supermarket i have entered recently, i have been able to locate a hygiene wipe dispenser. It is always located close to one of the entrances. SUGGESTION; Take one of these [wet] hygiene wipes, and wipe down the trolley handle [everywhere, that you will touch the handle.]. There is a lot of 'stuff' going around on peoples hands! Unless they are frequently washing their hands, most peoples hands have pathogens GROWING on them, like open petri dishes! |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:35am Yadda wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:20am:
While I can't stand parents wet wiping down the slide at the park before their kid can use it, even before COVID-19, we should have been wiping down the trolley handles. I've had to take 5 flights in the last few weeks, every time at the airport I've had to go to the toilet after/before the flight, I swear I'm like 1 of maybe 2 people who actually wash their hands after using the toilet, the rest just fix their hair in the mirror and walk out. It's bloody disgusting. I won't try to politicise the issue, but most of them look like they fit a certain mould too... But poor hygiene is sadly, very Australian. Yet people in these threads are happy to call people of entire ethnicities dirty... |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Richdude on Feb 21st, 2020 at 3:31pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:35am:
You haven't traveled much have you Sad. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:18pm Richdude wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 3:31pm:
All throughout South East Asia, India, the US and the UK (England and Scotland). Many in the more poverty-stricken areas of South East Asia, the people may not have the means as we do, but they at the least don't wear their shoes inside, try to if they have access to clean water bathe before they enter their beds, travelling through their public Transport (discounting India) there is very little BO smell, unlike in Australia. These countries are in general more respectful of their countries, their people and their family (even if the value of human life may be less). This leads to people growing up appreciating more what they have and try to make it last, keep it and themselves clean and don't rely on "48-hour protection" deodorant because they bathe more. It sounds like you're the one who hasn't travelled. I've been on many aid trips and charity awareness trips, including the Kokoda challenge, not just touristy places. I've stayed with locals and in 5-star accommodation. Honestly, if you had travelled on more than like a sex holiday and took a detour off the tourist tracks, you'd get a better idea of our neighbours and just how lucky we are. It's easy to think we're #1 and we're doing everything right, but boy reality is very different. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:52pm COVID-19 official, worldwide tally of DEAD 2020-Jan-29 170 2020-Feb-08 725 2020-Feb-09 813 2020-Feb-10 910 2020-Feb-11 1018 2020-Feb-12 1113 2020-Feb-12 1116 2020-Feb-13 1369 2020-Feb-15 1526 2020-Feb-16 1669 2020-Feb-17 1775 2020-Feb-18 1872 2020-Feb-19 2008 2020-Feb-20 2129 2020-Feb-21 2247 |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 21st, 2020 at 8:07pm
There is no sign of any letup.
They are now pouring thousands of gallons of disinfectant down the sewers and septic tanks in China because they have found out that the bat virus can also live in human sh!t, wash your hands boys and girls. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59pm Johnnie wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 8:07pm:
Citation needed about the sewer comment |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:05pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59pm:
It was widely reported. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Karnal on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:21pm Richdude wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 3:31pm:
Where to, Rich? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:25pm Johnnie wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:05pm:
Wuhan, capital city of Hubei province, has used about 1,964 tons of disinfectant as of Tuesday to sterilize the city's drainage and sewage treatment facilities during the novel coronavirus epidemic. The city kicked off disinfection work on Jan 29 to prevent pathogens from entering the sewer. The local water authority established a team of experts to formulate disinfection standards and clarified epidemic emergency management work to ensure the safety of drainage facilities, outflow areas, sewage treatment facilities and maintenance staff. The water authority also tasked a second disinfection operation for the sewage in some key areas, including designated hospitals, mobile cabin hospitals and temporary renovated schools and hotels to reduce the risk of virus entering the sewage. https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202002/20/WS5e4e00c1a310128217278fae.html |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 8:24am Johnnie wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:25pm:
"Widley reported", but one state-run source with a questionable reputation. If it's true, good on them, although it's a little "Security Theatre" to either make their own population feed like they're doing something, the International Community or both. SARS could survive on surfaces and in feces for up to 12 hours. So far, and it's still being researched, COVID-19 is able to survive no longer than 2 hours on surfaces and we're yet to have an answer for feces. I just find it typically disappointing that information coming out of China that those who want to sensationalise the issues and spread fear gets ignored when it doesn't suit their agenda, like the infection rate dropping, but have no issue believing and then sharing information such as fogging in the streets or "disinfecting" the outside of planes (both untrue or totally meaningless when it comes to stopping a virus) when they can use it to forward their agenda. How much you like what a source is saying has nothing to do with how reliable or trustworthy they are. It's the same backwards logic, hypocrisy and double standards used to defend Trump and attack his opponents. I've looked for a second source and at least via English Language websites I've not been able to find any. My Mandarin is just enough to greet and farewell people, thank them and order certain foods... |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by xeej on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 2:09pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 8:24am:
Don't shoot the messenger. The link was in English. Just because there is a slight drop in infections over the last couple of days don't get your hopes up, there are outbreaks everywhere, I just heard the chief of the WHO on the ABC saying we have a small window of opportunity to contain this virus. When I saw this news item it came up as one of the main news items of the day, I thought it was out there with drastic measures taken, I don't know how disinfecting the sewer system will help at the end of the line where microbes are used as treatment, the microbes will all be dead. When you asked for citation I to struggled to find that one link, it was possibly a bit to out there? As for your Trump rant,, whatever. The Chinese need to cleanup their act, there have been four major disease outbreaks there in the last 20yrs and we all know why. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by AiA on Feb 26th, 2020 at 11:56am
It's only a matter of time when Don dons a stethoscope - he is the best at everything.
Today hero Rush Limbaugh said that CoV is a plot against Trump :) |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 26th, 2020 at 3:51pm these figures relating to Iran, correct as of today..... COVID-19 Confirmed Cases by Country/Region Iran = 95 Deaths, in Iran = 16 Death rate in Iran, 16/95*100 = 16.84% !!!!! Not correct ? |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:22pm Yadda wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 3:51pm:
Correct, but you cannot draw conclusions from that alone. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by Yadda on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:39pm KangAnon wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:22pm:
What ? Are you suggesting that we can't believe the information [about COVID-19, in Iran] which is being released by the Iranian regime ? Or can we, ....believe the information [about COVID-19, in Iran] which is being released by the Iranian regime ? What does this all mean ? I'm confused. I blame COVID-19. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 27th, 2020 at 6:31am Yadda wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:39pm:
No, I said you can't draw any conclusions from that. The death rate is like the top-level information you give to a manager who failed up in a company during a meeting because he doesn't know or understand what else is going on. You need to far more information before you can draw any conclusion from that one number. You need to know the demographics of the deceased. Their ages, their medical records, treatment etc. The death rate is what scares people and put them into a panic for no reason and this can cause more fatalities. |
Title: Re: COVID-19 - What does Tom Cotton know, that we do n Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2020 at 8:40am AiA wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 11:56am:
Yes, I saw that. Don, Rudy, and Rush should all be sharing a padded cell somewhere. |
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