One for Aqua from Psychology Today:

A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support



https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE

I think they're approaching it from the wrong side.

People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people.

Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.

its interesting as this  person claims its Trump who has divided the nation.....

the way I read it its the Demons that have done that...with their 3 years of "lets get Trump"....I thought they were elected to keep the country rolling along???   hummm not so!apparently its all about them and their wounded souls...

its an amazing country.the absolute worst of everything comes from AMERIKA..

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.

What did Hillary lie about, Gordon?

I'm curious. Take your time.

cods wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:03am:

its interesting as this  person claims its Trump who has divided the nation..... the way I read it its the Demons that have done that...with their 3 years of "lets get Trump"....I thought they were elected to keep the country rolling along???   hummm not so!apparently its all about them and their wounded souls... its an amazing country.the absolute worst of everything comes from AMERIKA..

You do realise the Republicans did just that when Obama was in right?

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.

Hilary received over 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so there goes that theory.

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. .

Senate votes (wink, wink) not to impeach . Jest foolin' here, folks.

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.

Really?

Then why did 3,000,000 more people vote for the "unpalatable alternative"?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:39am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Really? Then why did 3,000,000 more people vote for the "unpalatable alternative"?

Gordon's gone, Greggery.

"6. The Power of Mortality Reminders and Perceived Existential Threat

A well-supported theory from social psychology, known as Terror Management Theory, explains why Trump’s fear mongering is doubly effective. The theory is based on the fact that humans have a unique awareness of their own mortality. The inevitably of one’s death creates existential terror and anxiety that is always residing below the surface. In order to manage this terror, humans adopt cultural worldviews — like religions, political ideologies, and national identities — that act as a buffer by instilling life with meaning and value.

Terror Management Theory predicts that when people are reminded of their own mortality, which happens with fear mongering, they will more strongly defend those who share their worldviews and national or ethnic identity, and act out more aggressively towards those who do not. Hundreds of studies have supported this hypothesis, and some have specifically shown that triggering thoughts of death tends to shift people towards the right.

Not only do death reminders increase nationalism, they may influence voting habits in favor of more conservative presidential candidates. And more disturbingly, in a study with American students, scientists found that making mortality salient increased support for extreme military interventions by American forces that could kill thousands of civilians overseas. Interestingly, the effect was present only in conservatives.

By constantly emphasizing existential threat, Trump may be creating a psychological condition that makes the brain respond positively rather than negatively to bigoted statements and divisive rhetoric."



This forum, in a nutshell.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 10:33am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:39am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Really? Then why did 3,000,000 more people vote for the "unpalatable alternative"? Gordon's gone, Greggery.

Ah.

mothra wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 11:11am:

"6. The Power of Mortality Reminders and Perceived Existential Threat A well-supported theory from social psychology, known as Terror Management Theory, explains why Trump’s fear mongering is doubly effective. The theory is based on the fact that humans have a unique awareness of their own mortality. The inevitably of one’s death creates existential terror and anxiety that is always residing below the surface. In order to manage this terror, humans adopt cultural worldviews — like religions, political ideologies, and national identities — that act as a buffer by instilling life with meaning and value. Terror Management Theory predicts that when people are reminded of their own mortality, which happens with fear mongering, they will more strongly defend those who share their worldviews and national or ethnic identity, and act out more aggressively towards those who do not. Hundreds of studies have supported this hypothesis, and some have specifically shown that triggering thoughts of death tends to shift people towards the right. Not only do death reminders increase nationalism, they may influence voting habits in favor of more conservative presidential candidates. And more disturbingly, in a study with American students, scientists found that making mortality salient increased support for extreme military interventions by American forces that could kill thousands of civilians overseas. Interestingly, the effect was present only in conservatives. By constantly emphasizing existential threat, Trump may be creating a psychological condition that makes the brain respond positively rather than negatively to bigoted statements and divisive rhetoric." This forum, in a nutshell.

That's interesting, Mother, but do you think the knuckleheads here are really scared?

Every time you point out the lack of terror attacks here they say, well yes, we're okay now, but...

They're more worried about the sight of the tinted races than they are of being killed. It's a form of virtue signalling. They need somebody to feel superior to. The ones who complain never actually know any.

Remember, the most Jew-hating Germans in the Nazi era were the ones who didn't know any Jews. I doubt people feared sinister Jews stealing Christian children or whatever. The propagated threat of the Jew was a way to drum up hate more than fear.

The haters are always the most insecure in their own sense of identity - particularly their class. They translate this into race, and do you know?

The biggest haters are nearly always immigrants themselves. Check them out on this site. Nearly all of them live in a different country to the one they grew up in.

They long for an idyllic past that was never really there. They yearn so hard to be respected, in the same way they believe the authority figures in their own childhoods were.

its a good balanced article A1A and it agrees with many of my ideas.

trump understand that people vote their psychology and they vote their temperament.

policies arent all that important.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:04am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. What did Hillary lie about, Gordon? I'm curious. Take your time.

A better question is - when has Hillary ever told the truth?

It's not really about whether Hillary lies more than Trump lies

It's all about the person's energy and their ability to maintain a frame and control the frame

Hillary just has really wack energy

The most important part of that psychological analysis was that after watching Trump perform for an hour people were still engaged and their physiology reveals they are in a state of positive regard
Another words watching Trump perform makes people feel good
and people vote their psychology and their emotional state and their temperament


This was on display last night in the democratic debate
One would have thought that Bloomberg was a possible alternative to Trump
If one thought that one would have been thinking wrong

Bloomberg is not engaging
Bloomberg goes on the defence
Bloomberg elicits negative emotion in his audience

In fact the whole democratic debate it's just full of whack energy
It's not engaging
And watching it gives you a mild feeling of disgust

The whole pretext of this article is back-to-front
you don't need a psychological analysis of Trump supporters
you need a psychological analysis of trump's powers of persuasion
And those are at the Pinnacle
Those Powers are off the Richter scale
They are superhuman
Definitely worth studying for 5 years
Maybe mayor Bloomberg could do that

aquascoot wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 6:33am:

The whole pretext of this article is back-to-front you don't need a psychological analysis of Trump supporters you need a psychological analysis of trump's powers of persuasion And those are at the Pinnacle Those Powers are off the Richter scale They are superhuman Definitely worth studying for 5 years Maybe mayor Bloomberg could do that

Bloomberg net worth: US$62.8bn

Combined net worth of all US presidents ever: US$5bn

Who has superpowers?

mothra wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 9:13am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. Hilary received over 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so there goes that theory.

Why do you support someone like this, Moths?

About six months after her initial interviews in 1999, Broaddrick told the Drudge Report that mere weeks after the alleged assault, Hillary Clinton had tried to thank her for her silence on the matter at a political rally:

"[Hillary] came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.' I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase -- looking less friendly and repeated her statement — 'Everything you do for Bill'. I said nothing. She wasn't letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering."

https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 7:49am:

mothra wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:13am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. Hilary received over 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so there goes that theory. Why do you support someone like this, Moths? About six months after her initial interviews in 1999, Broaddrick told the Drudge Report that mere weeks after the alleged assault, Hillary Clinton had tried to thank her for her silence on the matter at a political rally: "[Hillary] came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.' I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase -- looking less friendly and repeated her statement — 'Everything you do for Bill'. I said nothing. She wasn't letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering." https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick

Someone who awkwardly tries to comfort a victim of sexual harassment or someone who brags about grabbing them by the pussy because he's a star?

Gee, Gordon, that's a hard one.

Awkward?

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 8:06am:

Awkward?

What do you call it? Hillary's done more apologising for her husband's escapades than any wife in history.

Trump's wives normally file for divorce. His mistresses just take a payout and sign the non-disclosure agreement.

And his supporters lap it all up while they condemn Hillary for her husband's infidelities.

You?

Karnal wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 8:11am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 8:06am: Awkward? What do you call it? Hillary's done more apologising for her husband's escapades than any wife in history. Trump's wives normally file for divorce. His mistresses just take a payout and sign the non-disclosure agreement. And his supporters lap it all up while they condemn Hillary for her husband's infidelities. You?

Apologising for infidelity is same as covering for rape?

How very Muslim of you.

As she tells the story, they spent only a few minutes chatting by the window -- Clinton pointed to an old jail he wanted to renovate if he became governor -- before he began kissing her. She resisted his advances, she said, but soon he pulled her back onto the bed and forcibly had sex with her. She said she did not scream because everything happened so quickly. Her upper lip was bruised and swollen after the encounter because, she said, he had grabbed onto it with his mouth.

"The last thing he said to me was, 'You better get some ice for that.' And he put on his sunglasses and walked out the door," she recalled.

Karnal wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 8:11am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 8:06am: Awkward? What do you call it? Hillary's done more apologising for her husband's escapades than any wife in history. Trump's wives normally file for divorce. His mistresses just take a payout and sign the non-disclosure agreement. And his supporters lap it all up while they condemn Hillary for her husband's infidelities. You?

Simple!

  Hillary wasn't going to let Bill's indiscretions get in the way of her Presidential ambitions. Anything and everything was swept under the carpet.

Kama finally caught up with her in 2016.

Hillary's mentor was satanist and communist Saul Alinsky. I'm not a fan - you?

Bobby Azarian Ph.D is absolutely full of crap.

AiA wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 7:29am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:33am: The whole pretext of this article is back-to-front you don't need a psychological analysis of Trump supporters you need a psychological analysis of trump's powers of persuasion And those are at the Pinnacle Those Powers are off the Richter scale They are superhuman Definitely worth studying for 5 years Maybe mayor Bloomberg could do that Bloomberg net worth: US$62.8bn Combined net worth of all US presidents ever: US$5bn Who has superpowers?

No doubt that Bloomberg is a more successful businessman then the Donald
Doubtful at Bloomberg is a more successful public speaker than the Donald

Go back and read the article
There's something about Trump that people enjoy watching
They remain in a heightened state of pleasure for seriously long periods of time

I just can't imagine Bloomberg on The apprentice

Bloomberg would put a sedative to sleep
Bloomberg makes sleepy Joe look like a kid with ADHD

Everyone is just playing catch up football
The Donald has created a paradigm shift
He has stirred up The hornet's nest in Washington
Democrats are perpetually reacting to the Donald

It's one of those crazy things
the Donald says that he needs Twitter to punch through because the mainstream media won't cover him
No one has ever receive more coverage than the Donald

He has celebrity status and star status
the paparazzi just don't follow people like Elizabeth Warren and Pete buttigieg around
They just don't have that star quality

aquascoot wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:04am:

AiA wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 7:29am: aquascoot wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:33am: The whole pretext of this article is back-to-front you don't need a psychological analysis of Trump supporters you need a psychological analysis of trump's powers of persuasion And those are at the Pinnacle Those Powers are off the Richter scale They are superhuman Definitely worth studying for 5 years Maybe mayor Bloomberg could do that Bloomberg net worth: US$62.8bn Combined net worth of all US presidents ever: US$5bn Who has superpowers? No doubt that Bloomberg is a more successful businessman then the Donald Doubtful at Bloomberg is a more successful public speaker than the Donald Go back and read the article There's something about Trump that people enjoy watching They remain in a heightened state of pleasure for seriously long periods of time I just can't imagine Bloomberg on The apprentice Bloomberg would put a sedative to sleep Bloomberg makes sleepy Joe look like a kid with ADHD Everyone is just playing catch up football The Donald has created a paradigm shift He has stirred up The hornet's nest in Washington Democrats are perpetually reacting to the Donald It's one of those crazy things the Donald says that he needs Twitter to punch through because the mainstream media won't cover him No one has ever receive more coverage than the Donald He has celebrity status and star status the paparazzi just don't follow people like Elizabeth Warren and Pete buttigieg around They just don't have that star quality

You are right: Bloomberg is no entertainer, and Trump is all entertainer.

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 6:45pm:

mothra wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 11:11am: "6. The Power of Mortality Reminders and Perceived Existential Threat A well-supported theory from social psychology, known as Terror Management Theory, explains why Trump’s fear mongering is doubly effective. The theory is based on the fact that humans have a unique awareness of their own mortality. The inevitably of one’s death creates existential terror and anxiety that is always residing below the surface. In order to manage this terror, humans adopt cultural worldviews — like religions, political ideologies, and national identities — that act as a buffer by instilling life with meaning and value. Terror Management Theory predicts that when people are reminded of their own mortality, which happens with fear mongering, they will more strongly defend those who share their worldviews and national or ethnic identity, and act out more aggressively towards those who do not. Hundreds of studies have supported this hypothesis, and some have specifically shown that triggering thoughts of death tends to shift people towards the right. Not only do death reminders increase nationalism, they may influence voting habits in favor of more conservative presidential candidates. And more disturbingly, in a study with American students, scientists found that making mortality salient increased support for extreme military interventions by American forces that could kill thousands of civilians overseas. Interestingly, the effect was present only in conservatives. By constantly emphasizing existential threat, Trump may be creating a psychological condition that makes the brain respond positively rather than negatively to bigoted statements and divisive rhetoric." This forum, in a nutshell. That's interesting, Mother, but do you think the knuckleheads here are really scared? Every time you point out the lack of terror attacks here they say, well yes, we're okay now, but... They're more worried about the sight of the tinted races than they are of being killed. It's a form of virtue signalling. They need somebody to feel superior to. The ones who complain never actually know any. Remember, the most Jew-hating Germans in the Nazi era were the ones who didn't know any Jews. I doubt people feared sinister Jews stealing Christian children or whatever. The propagated threat of the Jew was a way to drum up hate more than fear. The haters are always the most insecure in their own sense of identity - particularly their class. They translate this into race, and do you know? The biggest haters are nearly always immigrants themselves. Check them out on this site. Nearly all of them live in a different country to the one they grew up in. They long for an idyllic past that was never really there. They yearn so hard to be respected, in the same way they believe the authority figures in their own childhoods were.

Oh i think they're absolutely terrified. Terrified their male, white privilege is under threat.

Just last night, major culprit Grappler informed me that you can't give someone rights without taking them away from someone else. Yes, they really think like this.

I would go further as to say the more introspective among them may even fear the audit, not just the prospect of having to share a society with those they think inferior.

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 7:49am:

mothra wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:13am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. Hilary received over 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so there goes that theory. Why do you support someone like this, Moths? About six months after her initial interviews in 1999, Broaddrick told the Drudge Report that mere weeks after the alleged assault, Hillary Clinton had tried to thank her for her silence on the matter at a political rally: "[Hillary] came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.' I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase -- looking less friendly and repeated her statement — 'Everything you do for Bill'. I said nothing. She wasn't letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering." https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick

Why on earth would me stating that Hilary received 3,000,000 million more votes than \Trump, thus negating your comment that the public got what they wanted, translate into me supporting Hillary? I didn't make it up to pimp her .. it's just a simple fact.

More Americans wanted Clinton as POTUS than Trump, so you're just wrong.

Where have i ever stated any support for Hilary? Ever?

mothra wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:42am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 7:49am: mothra wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:13am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. Hilary received over 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so there goes that theory. Why do you support someone like this, Moths? About six months after her initial interviews in 1999, Broaddrick told the Drudge Report that mere weeks after the alleged assault, Hillary Clinton had tried to thank her for her silence on the matter at a political rally: "[Hillary] came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.' I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase -- looking less friendly and repeated her statement — 'Everything you do for Bill'. I said nothing. She wasn't letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering." https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick Why on earth would me stating that Hilary received 3,000,000 million more votes than \Trump, thus negating your comment that the public got what they wanted, translate into me supporting Hillary? I didn't make it up to pimp her .. it's just a simple fact. More Americans wanted Clinton as POTUS than Trump, so you're just wrong. Where have i ever stated any support for Hilary? Ever?

Irrelevant, who is POTUS?

Seems Hillary has dodged defending her rapist husband just as well as dodged the sniper bullets at Sarajevo  ;D

Irrelevant? What, the answer to your question?

Kinda makes your question look pretty foolish, no?

POTUS = President of the United States.

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:54am:

mothra wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:42am: Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 7:49am: mothra wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 9:13am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. Hilary received over 3,000,000 more votes than Trump, so there goes that theory. Why do you support someone like this, Moths? About six months after her initial interviews in 1999, Broaddrick told the Drudge Report that mere weeks after the alleged assault, Hillary Clinton had tried to thank her for her silence on the matter at a political rally: "[Hillary] came directly to me as soon as she hit the door. I had been there only a few minutes, I only wanted to make an appearance and leave. She caught me and took my hand and said 'I am so happy to meet you. I want you to know that we appreciate everything you do for Bill.' I started to turn away and she held onto my hand and reiterated her phrase -- looking less friendly and repeated her statement — 'Everything you do for Bill'. I said nothing. She wasn't letting me get away until she made her point. She talked low, the smile faded on the second thank you. I just released her hand from mine and left the gathering." https://www.vox.com/2016/1/6/10722580/bill-clinton-juanita-broaddrick Why on earth would me stating that Hilary received 3,000,000 million more votes than \Trump, thus negating your comment that the public got what they wanted, translate into me supporting Hillary? I didn't make it up to pimp her .. it's just a simple fact. More Americans wanted Clinton as POTUS than Trump, so you're just wrong. Where have i ever stated any support for Hilary? Ever? Irrelevant, who is POTUS? Seems Hillary has dodged defending her rapist husband just as well as dodged the sniper bullets at Sarajevo

Tell us again how Americans didn't vote for the "unpalatable alternative".

;D

Who is POTUS?

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:59am:

Who is POTUS?

Tell us again how Americans didn't vote for the "unpalatable alternative".

  ;D


Go on.

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 9:59am:

Who is POTUS?

Clearly not, as you asserted, the person most Americans wanted.

mothra wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:01am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59am: Who is POTUS? Clearly not, as you asserted, the person most Americans wanted.

Happens every time.

They say "Trump is popular".

It's proven he's not.

They change the subject to "Well, he's the President".

So fricken funny to watch them tie themselves up in knots   ;D

Karnal wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 8:04am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. What did Hillary lie about, Gordon? I'm curious. Take your time.

Maybe something to do with the thousands of emails she had deleted from the many hard drives she had Acid Washed, oh yes and smashed to bits by her cohorts.......

Good enough for you clown.......?


Matty signing off.....no?

'Allo 'Allo

mothra wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:01am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59am: Who is POTUS? Clearly not, as you asserted, the person most Americans wanted.

Hi Greg why do you pretend to be mothra

aquascoot wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:28am:

mothra wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:01am: Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59am: Who is POTUS? Clearly not, as you asserted, the person most Americans wanted. Hi Greg why do you pretend to be mothra

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582245627

aquascoot wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:28am:

mothra wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:01am: Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59am: Who is POTUS? Clearly not, as you asserted, the person most Americans wanted. Hi Greg why do you pretend to be mothra

My god. You've cracked it.

How clever are you?

mothra wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:59am:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:28am: mothra wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 10:01am: Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 9:59am: Who is POTUS? Clearly not, as you asserted, the person most Americans wanted. Hi Greg why do you pretend to be mothra My god. You've cracked it. How clever are you?

He seems to have developed bone spurs.

He's not up to a challenge: http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1582245627

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:06am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:04am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. What did Hillary lie about, Gordon? I'm curious. Take your time. Maybe something to do with the thousands of emails she had deleted from the many hard drives she had Acid Washed, oh yes and smashed to bits by her cohorts....... Good enough for you clown.......?

Not at all, it's standard State Department policy for IT upgrades and deleted classified emails. The FBI requested devices and computers going back 6 years. Of course the State Department didn't keep all those old phones and laptops. Of course the IT department disposed of them. That's the policy, dear.

Hillary never lied about it at all. If she did, she would have been charged with lying to the FBI - like Roger Stone, like Mike Flynn, like Paul Manafort, like Michael Cohen (who did a deal to get this charge dropped).

Now we know what you'll say. Oh, that's because Hillary's Deep State and the FBI have to be nice to her (by investigating her emails and even announcing this fact two weeks before a presidential erection). They're only mean to Mr Trump's staff. It's one rule for elites like Hillary and another for working class guys like Mr Trump, so unfair.

I mean, it's not as if Mr Trump has a Justice Department to protect his friends with or anything, now is it?

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:06am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:04am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. What did Hillary lie about, Gordon? I'm curious. Take your time. Matty signing off.....no?

Oh. You've gone.

Fuzzball wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 10:06am:

Karnal wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 8:04am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. What did Hillary lie about, Gordon? I'm curious. Take your time. Maybe something to do with the thousands of emails she had deleted from the many hard drives she had Acid Washed, oh yes and smashed to bits by her cohorts....... Good enough for you clown.......? Matty signing off.....no? 'Allo 'Allo

Claiming she landed under sniper fire was a good one.

AiA wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 6:38am:

One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE

Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well.

Absolutely nailed it.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 12:57pm:

AiA wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:38am: One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well. Absolutely nailed it.

Here we have aquasccot:

3. America’s Obsession with Entertainment and Celebrities

Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction to entertainment and reality TV.

To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With the Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next.

He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says.

They are happy as long as they are kept entertained.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:57pm: AiA wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:38am: One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well. Absolutely nailed it. Here we have aquasccot: 3. America’s Obsession with Entertainment and Celebrities Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction to entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With the Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained.

Bobby:

5. The Fear Factor: Conservatives Are More Sensitive to Threat

Science has  shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening.

A 2008 study in the journal Science found that conservatives have a stronger physiological reaction to startling noises and graphic images compared to liberals.

A brain-imaging study published in Current Biology revealed that those who lean right politically tend to have a larger amygdala — a structure that is electrically active during states of fear and anxiety.

And a 2014 fMRI study found that it is possible to predict whether someone is a liberal or conservative simply by looking at their brain activity while they view threatening or disgusting images, such as mutilated bodies.

Specifically, the brains of self-identified conservatives generated more activity overall in response to the disturbing images.

These brain responses are automatic and not influenced by logic or reason.

As long as Trump continues to portray Muslims and Hispanic immigrants as imminent threats, many conservative brains will involuntarily light up like light bulbs being controlled by a switch.

Fear keeps his followers energized and focused on safety. And when you think you’ve found your protector, you become less concerned with offensive and divisive remarks.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:20pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:57pm: AiA wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:38am: One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well. Absolutely nailed it. Here we have aquasccot: 3. America’s Obsession with Entertainment and Celebrities Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction to entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With the Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained. Bobby: 5. The Fear Factor: Conservatives Are More Sensitive to Threat Science has  shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening. A 2008 study in the journal Science found that conservatives have a stronger physiological reaction to startling noises and graphic images compared to liberals. A brain-imaging study published in Current Biology revealed that those who lean right politically tend to have a larger amygdala — a structure that is electrically active during states of fear and anxiety. And a 2014 fMRI study found that it is possible to predict whether someone is a liberal or conservative simply by looking at their brain activity while they view threatening or disgusting images, such as mutilated bodies. Specifically, the brains of self-identified conservatives generated more activity overall in response to the disturbing images. These brain responses are automatic and not influenced by logic or reason. As long as Trump continues to portray Muslims and Hispanic immigrants as imminent threats, many conservative brains will involuntarily light up like light bulbs being controlled by a switch. Fear keeps his followers energized and focused on safety. And when you think you’ve found your protector, you become less concerned with offensive and divisive remarks.

Panther:

7. The Dunning-Kruger Effect: Humans Often Overestimate Their Political Expertise

Some who support Donald Trump are under-informed or misinformed about the issues at hand.

When Trump tells them that crime is skyrocketing in the United States, or that the economy is the worst it’s ever been, they simply take his word for it.

The Dunning-Kruger effect explains that the problem isn’t just that they are misinformed; it’s that they are completely unaware that they are misinformed, which creates a double burden.

Studies have shown that people who lack expertise in some area of knowledge often have a cognitive bias that prevents them from realizing that they lack expertise.

As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task.

This includes political judgment.” These people cannot be reached because they mistakenly believe they are the ones who should be reaching others.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:20pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:57pm: AiA wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:38am: One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well. Absolutely nailed it. Here we have aquasccot: 3. America’s Obsession with Entertainment and Celebrities Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction to entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With the Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained.

I will miss the entertainment factor as with Tony A.

There is a lot to be said for Ludicrous humor in real life except for how dangerous it is.

Capable, patriotic, hard working, a good sense of justice, honest, reliable, can see a winner a mile away, realistic.

Yep, that is us.

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 1:48pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:20pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:57pm: AiA wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:38am: One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well. Absolutely nailed it. Here we have aquasccot: 3. America’s Obsession with Entertainment and Celebrities Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction to entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With the Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained. Bobby: 5. The Fear Factor: Conservatives Are More Sensitive to Threat Science has  shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening. A 2008 study in the journal Science found that conservatives have a stronger physiological reaction to startling noises and graphic images compared to liberals. A brain-imaging study published in Current Biology revealed that those who lean right politically tend to have a larger amygdala — a structure that is electrically active during states of fear and anxiety. And a 2014 fMRI study found that it is possible to predict whether someone is a liberal or conservative simply by looking at their brain activity while they view threatening or disgusting images, such as mutilated bodies. Specifically, the brains of self-identified conservatives generated more activity overall in response to the disturbing images. These brain responses are automatic and not influenced by logic or reason. As long as Trump continues to portray Muslims and Hispanic immigrants as imminent threats, many conservative brains will involuntarily light up like light bulbs being controlled by a switch. Fear keeps his followers energized and focused on safety. And when you think you’ve found your protector, you become less concerned with offensive and divisive remarks. Panther: 7. The Dunning-Kruger Effect: Humans Often Overestimate Their Political Expertise Some who support Donald Trump are under-informed or misinformed about the issues at hand. When Trump tells them that crime is skyrocketing in the United States, or that the economy is the worst it’s ever been, they simply take his word for it. The Dunning-Kruger effect explains that the problem isn’t just that they are misinformed; it’s that they are completely unaware that they are misinformed, which creates a double burden. Studies have shown that people who lack expertise in some area of knowledge often have a cognitive bias that prevents them from realizing that they lack expertise. As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task. This includes political judgment.” These people cannot be reached because they mistakenly believe they are the ones who should be reaching others.

Sprintcyclist:

11. Trump Taps into the Nation’s Collective Narcissism

Collective narcissism is an unrealistic shared belief in the greatness of one’s national group.

It often occurs when a group who believes it represents the ‘true identity’ of a nation — the ‘ingroup,’ in this case White Americans — perceives itself as being disadvantaged compared to outgroups who are getting ahead of them ‘unrightfully.’ This psychological phenomenon is related to relative deprivation (#6).

A study published last year in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science found a direct link between national collective narcissism and support for Donald Trump.

This correlation was discovered by researchers at the University of Warsaw, who surveyed over 400 Americans with a series of questionnaires about political and social beliefs.

Where individual narcissism causes aggressiveness toward other individuals, collective narcissism involves negative attitudes and aggression toward ‘outsider’ groups (outgroups), who are perceived as threats.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:29pm:

Capable, patriotic, hard working, a good sense of justice, honest, reliable, can see a winner a mile away, realistic. Yep, that is us.

Patriotic?

Yep, that's you, Sprint. You've been praising your prime minister since she was erected, no?

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:41pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:48pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:41pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 1:20pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 12:57pm: AiA wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 6:38am: One for Aqua from Psychology Today: A Complete Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/mind-in-the-machine/201812/complete-psychological-analysis-trumps-support?fbclid=IwAR3WEDF-LA9a1gDOHmjHLQg4c-nutrx4ESJY4Ew2ru3dazWhlJ9VfoCVCyE Amazing every paragraph highlighted a different member we have here. The video was very good as well. Absolutely nailed it. Here we have aquasccot: 3. America’s Obsession with Entertainment and Celebrities Essentially, the loyalty of Trump supporters may in part be explained by America’s addiction to entertainment and reality TV. To some, it doesn’t matter what Trump actually says because he’s so amusing to watch. With the Donald, you are always left wondering what outrageous thing he is going to say or do next. He keeps us on the edge of our seat, and for that reason, some Trump supporters will forgive anything he says. They are happy as long as they are kept entertained. Bobby: 5. The Fear Factor: Conservatives Are More Sensitive to Threat Science has  shown that the conservative brain has an exaggerated fear response when faced with stimuli that may be perceived as threatening. A 2008 study in the journal Science found that conservatives have a stronger physiological reaction to startling noises and graphic images compared to liberals. A brain-imaging study published in Current Biology revealed that those who lean right politically tend to have a larger amygdala — a structure that is electrically active during states of fear and anxiety. And a 2014 fMRI study found that it is possible to predict whether someone is a liberal or conservative simply by looking at their brain activity while they view threatening or disgusting images, such as mutilated bodies. Specifically, the brains of self-identified conservatives generated more activity overall in response to the disturbing images. These brain responses are automatic and not influenced by logic or reason. As long as Trump continues to portray Muslims and Hispanic immigrants as imminent threats, many conservative brains will involuntarily light up like light bulbs being controlled by a switch. Fear keeps his followers energized and focused on safety. And when you think you’ve found your protector, you become less concerned with offensive and divisive remarks. Panther: 7. The Dunning-Kruger Effect: Humans Often Overestimate Their Political Expertise Some who support Donald Trump are under-informed or misinformed about the issues at hand. When Trump tells them that crime is skyrocketing in the United States, or that the economy is the worst it’s ever been, they simply take his word for it. The Dunning-Kruger effect explains that the problem isn’t just that they are misinformed; it’s that they are completely unaware that they are misinformed, which creates a double burden. Studies have shown that people who lack expertise in some area of knowledge often have a cognitive bias that prevents them from realizing that they lack expertise. As psychologist David Dunning puts it in an op-ed for Politico, “The knowledge and intelligence that are required to be good at a task are often the same qualities needed to recognize that one is not good at that task — and if one lacks such knowledge and intelligence, one remains ignorant that one is not good at the task. This includes political judgment.” These people cannot be reached because they mistakenly believe they are the ones who should be reaching others. Sprintcyclist: 11. Trump Taps into the Nation’s Collective Narcissism Collective narcissism is an unrealistic shared belief in the greatness of one’s national group. It often occurs when a group who believes it represents the ‘true identity’ of a nation — the ‘ingroup,’ in this case White Americans — perceives itself as being disadvantaged compared to outgroups who are getting ahead of them ‘unrightfully.’ This psychological phenomenon is related to relative deprivation (#6). A study published last year in the journal Social Psychological and Personality Science found a direct link between national collective narcissism and support for Donald Trump. This correlation was discovered by researchers at the University of Warsaw, who surveyed over 400 Americans with a series of questionnaires about political and social beliefs. Where individual narcissism causes aggressiveness toward other individuals, collective narcissism involves negative attitudes and aggression toward ‘outsider’ groups (outgroups), who are perceived as threats.

Instead of psycho babble to analyze others Greg.

I think you would be better off asking yourself why you need to lie all the time?

Are you so sure of yourself that you need to lie? I think not!

Richdude:

4. “Some Men Just Want to Watch the World Burn.”

Some people are supporting Trump simply to be rebellious or to introduce chaos into the political system.

They may have such distaste for the establishment and democrats like Hillary Clinton that their support for Trump is a symbolic middle finger directed at Washington.

These people may have other issues, like an innate desire to troll others or an obsession with schadenfreude.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 2:29pm:

Capable, patriotic, hard working, a good sense of justice, honest, reliable, can see a winner a mile away, realistic. Yep, that is us.

Supporting the guy who is trashing the constitution is hardly patriotic, The guy undermining the separation of power and working to bully and master the other branches as well as influencing trial results and pardoning its mates is about as far from a sense of justice as you can get.

Yes you fit nicely into several categories 

What did Greggery lie about, Rich? We'll do a multiple choice.

A. Mr Trump is an alleged child rapist, as proven in a filed affidavit.

B. The much-loathed Hillary got three mil more votes than Mr Trump.

C. Mr Trump said he'd get Mexico to pay for the Wall.

D. Mr Trump raped Ivana after she recommended some hair-transplant QUACK she read about in Health & Beauty Magazine.

E. Mr Trump smears orange make-up on before each Air Force One media stop.

F. Mr Trump has already spent more days playing golf than Obama did in eight years.

G. Mr Trump is a three time bankrupt who finds a way to stiff some loser in every deal he does.

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable..

I  doubt that... that excuse might work here where voting is compulsory, but in the US, if both candidates suck, there is no need to vote for either of them.

oh another lefty GROUP HUG...

I will leave you too it....


I know what will happen when you get another bollocking in NOV.... ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:45pm:

oh another lefty GROUP HUG... I will leave you too it.... I know what will happen when you get another bollocking in NOV.... ;D ;D ;D

you'd better hurry up cods, your wine in getting warm

John Smith wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:49pm:

cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:45pm: oh another lefty GROUP HUG... I will leave you too it.... I know what will happen when you get another bollocking in NOV.... ;D ;D ;D you'd better hurry up cods, your wine in getting warm

no need Mr Littledick  I dont drink.....

did you find what you have been looking for???..

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:45pm:

oh another lefty GROUP HUG... I will leave you too it.... I know what will happen when you get another bollocking in NOV.... ;D ;D ;D

I honestly don't know how you're not embarrassed to carry on as you do.

cods wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:51pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:49pm: cods wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:45pm: oh another lefty GROUP HUG... I will leave you too it.... I know what will happen when you get another bollocking in NOV.... ;D ;D ;D you'd better hurry up cods, your wine in getting warm no need Mr Littledick  I dont drink..... did you find what you have been looking for???..

still fantasizing about my dick i see  ;D ;D ;D


and no, sadly i haven't found it. Trying to find a sensical post from you is impossible

I wonder when the Democrats will start putting their energy into finding an awesome candidate who can beat Trump rather than putting down anyone who voted for Trump and ensuring he winds again?

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 5:45pm:

I wonder when the Democrats will start putting their energy into finding an awesome candidate who can beat Trump rather than putting down anyone who voted for Trump and ensuring he winds again?

Did you like the paragraph about you ?

Many people Trumps age wind I wouldn't hold that against him so much.

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 5:45pm:

I wonder when the Democrats will start putting their energy into finding an awesome candidate who can beat Trump rather than putting down anyone who voted for Trump and ensuring he winds again?

Nope. Not an option.  We are talking about swamp rats you know....

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 5:49pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 5:45pm: I wonder when the Democrats will start putting their energy into finding an awesome candidate who can beat Trump rather than putting down anyone who voted for Trump and ensuring he winds again? Did you like the paragraph about you ? Many people Trumps age wind I wouldn't hold that against him so much.

I wouldn't vote for Trump but I understand why he was voted POTUS. Do you?

Let's do one on Rich, shall we? Rich lied when he said:

A. Obama shipped $4 billion US dollars in shrinkwrapped pallets to Tehran as part of the nuclear weapons deal.

B. Hillary gave the order to have Gaddafi murdered by a mob of angry Libyan militia members.

C. Seth Rich simultaneously downloaded the contents of 19 email servers from around the globe onto a single thumb drive, as proven by the "download speeds".

D. Hillary ordered her staff to smash up her phones and computers with a hammer after she was served a subpoena by the FBI.

E. Hillary approved the sale of Uranium One when she was Secretary of State.

F. Obama never submitted his birth certificate to stand in the 2008 & 2012 presidential erections.

G. The Clintons use their Foundation as a personal slush fund, despite the use of independent directors, board members, annual audits, accreditation for US tax exemption status and a published rating of A- by charity rating agencies.

H. Mr Trump's been tougher on Russia than any other president ever, believe me.

I. Hunter Biden laundered Burisma money through a maze of shelf companies and bank accounts in Eastern Europe to end up in the coffers of his yet-to-be named criminal co-conspirators in the US, including Sleepy Joe.

J. Those papers Rudy's always waving around on Fox & Friends have writing on them.

K. All of the above.

Gordon wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 6:01pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 5:49pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 5:45pm: I wonder when the Democrats will start putting their energy into finding an awesome candidate who can beat Trump rather than putting down anyone who voted for Trump and ensuring he winds again? Did you like the paragraph about you ? Many people Trumps age wind I wouldn't hold that against him so much. I wouldn't vote for Trump but I understand why he was voted POTUS. Do you?

No, you clearly don;t.

At least not unless the correction of why you stated he was elected earlier in this thread has taken seed.

Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly???

:) :) :)

John Smith wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 4:42pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.. I  doubt that... that excuse might work here where voting is compulsory, but in the US, if both candidates suck, there is no need to vote for either of them.

At least someone admits compulsory voting can have unpalatable side effects for a voter

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 7:47pm:

John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:42pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.. I  doubt that... that excuse might work here where voting is compulsory, but in the US, if both candidates suck, there is no need to vote for either of them. At least someone admits compulsory voting can have unpalatable side effects for a voter

nothing unpalatable about it. Voting is the price you pay for living in this great country. Make voting voluntary and you could end up in a sheat hole like the USA.

Besides, You can always opt for an informal vote if you really don't like any of the candidates.

Rider wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 5:50pm:

Gordon wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 5:45pm: I wonder when the Democrats will start putting their energy into finding an awesome candidate who can beat Trump rather than putting down anyone who voted for Trump and ensuring he winds again? Nope. Not an option.  We are talking about swamp rats you know....

Yes Trump is king swamp rat very hard to beat. Most corrupt swamp dwelling president ever.

Half the trump team are criminals and he is breaking them out of prison.

Gordon wrote on Feb 20^th, 2020 at 7:44am:

I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person.

They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48

John Smith wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 7:57pm:

Bias_2012 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 7:47pm: John Smith wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 4:42pm: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.. I  doubt that... that excuse might work here where voting is compulsory, but in the US, if both candidates suck, there is no need to vote for either of them. At least someone admits compulsory voting can have unpalatable side effects for a voter nothing unpalatable about it. Voting is the price you pay for living in this great country. Make voting voluntary and you could end up in a sheat hole like the USA. Besides, You can always opt for an informal vote if you really don't like any of the candidates.

You're flip flopping, read what you said in the first place ....

"that excuse might work here where voting is compulsory"


Here's a contradiction if ever I've seen one ....

"nothing unpalatable about it. Voting is the price you pay"

Voting is supposed to be a human right, not a flammin price

Australia still has an establishment swamp running the show, you can vote for them if you want, it's a pity the bush fires didn't reach the big cities and burn the mongrels out 

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 6:07pm:

Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly??? :) :) :)

yes

athos wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48

I could not agree more, Athos.

Fck the USA, no?

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 6:07pm:

Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly??? :) :) :)

Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS?

I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration?

After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump?

Karnal wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 11:57pm:

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm: Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly??? :) :) :) Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS? I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration? After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump?

No....However many Trump supporters have genuine concerns about illegal immigrants and the Democrats ignore them with accusations....Trump is going over the top but he is the only option for a lot of Americans....The problem is those with genuine concerns that do not align with the political left are ridiculed and there opinions are rejected out of hand....Who is listening to them and giving many Americans no other option???

:-? :-? :-?

From Psychology Today -

"Suicide, stress, divorce -- psychologists and other mental health professionals may actually be more screwed up than the rest of us."

"The problem is that mental health professionals—particularly psychologists—do a poor job of monitoring their own mental health problems and those of their colleagues. In fact, the main responsibility for spotting an impaired therapist seems to fall on the patient, who presumably has his or her own problems to deal with. That's just nuts."

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/articles/199707/why-shrinks-have-problems

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 5:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:57pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm: Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly??? :) :) :) Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS? I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration? After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump? No....However many Trump supporters have genuine concerns about illegal immigrants and the Democrats ignore them with accusations....Trump is going over the top but he is the only option for a lot of Americans....The problem is those with genuine concerns that do not align with the political left are ridiculed and there opinions are rejected out of hand....Who is listening to them and giving many Americans no other option??? :-? :-? :-?

a hero of the democratic party who demanded the deportation of illegal migrants for undercutting union wages

Cesar Chavez (born César Estrada Chávez, locally ˈsesaɾ esˈtɾaða ˈtʃaβes]; March 31, 1927 – April 23, 1993) was an American labor leader, community organizer, and Latino American civil rights activist. Along with Dolores Huerta, he co-founded the National Farm Workers Association (NFWA), later renamed the United Farm Workers (UFW) union.

how would he go with the current leftie intellectual elite ?

The UFW during Chavez's tenure was committed to restricting import of immigrant labor. On a few occasions, concerns that illegal immigrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chavez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale.[117] In its early years, the UFW and Chavez went so far as to report illegal immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 5:34pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:57pm: philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21st, 2020 at 6:07pm: Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly??? :) :) :) Good point, Phil. But do you think the Democrats should LOCK THEM UP, SEND THEM BACK and REMOVE THEIR KIDS? I'm curious. Do you think the Democrats should try to be as pathological as the Trump administration? After all, they haven't got a hope anyway. Mr Trump will win. Do you really think the Democrat candidate should destroy their credibility for a generation, Hillary-style (when she voted to invade Iraq), in the vain attempt to match Mr Trump? No....However many Trump supporters have genuine concerns about illegal immigrants and the Democrats ignore them with accusations....Trump is going over the top but he is the only option for a lot of Americans....The problem is those with genuine concerns that do not align with the political left are ridiculed and there opinions are rejected out of hand....Who is listening to them and giving many Americans no other option??? :-? :-? :-?

Separating families and putting young children into cages isn't aimed at people with genuine concerns.

aquascoot wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 6:21pm:

The UFW during Chavez's tenure was committed to restricting import of immigrant labor. On a few occasions, concerns that illegal immigrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chavez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale.[117] In its early years, the UFW and Chavez went so far as to report illegal immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers

Deflection seldom works well.

Besides the article is unlikely to help you.

You would keep a team of research psychologists occupied for decades.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 6:48pm:

aquascoot wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:21pm: The UFW during Chavez's tenure was committed to restricting import of immigrant labor. On a few occasions, concerns that illegal immigrant labor would undermine UFW strike campaigns led to a number of controversial events, which the UFW describes as anti-strikebreaking events, but which have also been interpreted as being anti-immigrant. In 1969, Chavez and members of the UFW marched through the Imperial and Coachella Valleys to the border of Mexico to protest growers' use of illegal immigrants as strikebreakers. Joining him on the march were Reverend Ralph Abernathy and U.S. Senator Walter Mondale.[117] In its early years, the UFW and Chavez went so far as to report illegal immigrants who served as strikebreaking replacement workers Deflection seldom works well. Besides the article is unlikely to help you. You would keep a team of research psychologists occupied for decades.

this union hero of the democratic party EVEN TRIED TO BUILD A WALL

the United Farm Workers set up a "wet line" along the United States-Mexico border to prevent Mexican immigrants from entering the United States illegally and potentially undermining the UFW's unionization efforts.[123] During one such event, in which Chavez was not involved, some UFW members, under the guidance of Chavez's cousin Manuel, physically attacked the strikebreakers after peaceful attempts to persuade them not to cross the border failed

philperth2010 wrote on Feb 21^st, 2020 at 6:07pm:

Trump is the only politician who is going hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem....I don't see any Democrat taking a hard line on illegal immigration which will sink them come the election....Trump is dictating the narrative and Democrats are reacting with accusations....Trump is the only option for a lot of Americans so I would not judge "most" Trump supporters too harshly??? :) :) :)

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hard against illegal immigration which a lot of Americans rightly or wrongly believe is a problem.

I suspect that Like Australia illegal immigration is a political tool that in reality isn't a problem at all, just good for elections to lock in the paranoid redneck voting block.

athos wrote on Feb 22^nd, 2020 at 10:08am:

Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48

You are totally wrong, President Trump is different.
He has moral integrity.

Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support

Whites - Nah, He got HUGE support from 'non-whites'.
Now millions more of them are employed .....

Men, Nah - as above.

Christians - Yes. He is a good solid Christian. That aligns with the above observations.

Achievers - yep, He achieves.

Patriots- Yep, He is ON Americas side.



I'm struggling here. Can anyone help?

capitosinora wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 7:04pm:

athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity.

There has never been a politician with less integrity.

Sprintcyclist wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 7:06pm:

Psychological Analysis of Trump's Support Whites - Nah, He got HUGE support from 'non-whites'. Now millions more of them are employed ..... Men, Nah - as above. Christians - Yes. He is a good solid Christian. That aligns with the above observations. Achievers - yep, He achieves. Patriots- Yep, He is ON Americas side. I'm struggling here. Can anyone help?

Yes - Take option "d" none of the above.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 7:18pm:

capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity.

Let me introduce you to logic. Its the language of the universe - you cannot deny it.

There has never been a President who has fulfilled or is fulfilling his pre-election promises as Trump has. NEVER! Wall, sanctuary cities, redressing trade imbalances, taxes overturning insane left wing programs................

You endlessly grind out these mindless stimulus response knee jerk reactions. Are you insane Ducky?

Logic
That's truly laughable

People don't vote based on logic

They vote based on their temperament there  emotions
And their personal psychology

Go talk to a 17 year old and tell them to turn off the rap music and listen to Beethoven because logically he produces superior music
Argue tell ur blue in the face

Understand the game you're playing and then play that game
If you win then what you are presenting is basically the truth
Trump sits in the oval office
Trump has played the game of American politics
So by the definition of the game itself Trump is the truth

The truth is not contained in 100 pages of civil service data
The truth is contained in the results of the winner of the game that we have all decided to play
That game is called American politics
Trump has understood the game
And Trump is the truth

If you cannot accept that
You have a derangement syndrome
Trump has entered your brain like a virus
He is in your head and you can't get him out
Richard Dawkins talks about the idea of memes as some sort of mind virus
That's the Donald

aquascoot wrote on Feb 24^th, 2020 at 6:21am:

Logic That's truly laughable People don't vote based on logic They vote based on their temperament there  emotions And their personal psychology Go talk to a 17 year old and tell them to turn off the rap music and listen to Beethoven because logically he produces superior music Argue tell ur blue in the face Understand the game you're playing and then play that game If you win then what you are presenting is basically the truth Trump sits in the oval office Trump has played the game of American politics So by the definition of the game itself Trump is the truth The truth is not contained in 100 pages of civil service data The truth is contained in the results of the winner of the game that we have all decided to play That game is called American politics Trump has understood the game And Trump is the truth If you cannot accept that You have a derangement syndrome Trump has entered your brain like a virus He is in your head and you can't get him out Richard Dawkins talks about the idea of memes as some sort of mind virus That's the Donald

People who vote for Trump use logic because it'll
be more employment and money in their pockets as simply as that.
Trump is simply superior.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23^rd, 2020 at 7:18pm:

capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity.

Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered.

capitosinora wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 5:48pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered.

He is up to about 17% delivered.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 7:32pm:

capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered.

True, but Mr Trump never meant the other 87%. He was just having a bit of a laugh, no?

Karnal wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 9:17pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. True, but Mr Trump never meant the other 87%. He was just having a bit of a laugh, no?

Was Lock her up an election promise or just a Trump cult chant ?

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 9:21pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. True, but Mr Trump never meant the other 87%. He was just having a bit of a laugh, no? Was Lock her up an election promise or just a Trump cult chant ?

Sounds like a core erection promise to me. Lock her up, send them back, drain the swamp.

87% to go. He still has until October, you know.

Karnal wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. True, but Mr Trump never meant the other 87%. He was just having a bit of a laugh, no? Was Lock her up an election promise or just a Trump cult chant ? Sounds like a core erection promise to me. Lock her up, send them back, drain the swamp. 87% to go. He still has until October, you know.

Think it may have been a mis quote about the swamp. Seems that Trump has been extending the swamp, he has built more swamp than wall a lot more.

Karnal wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. True, but Mr Trump never meant the other 87%. He was just having a bit of a laugh, no? Was Lock her up an election promise or just a Trump cult chant ? Sounds like a core erection promise to me. Lock her up, send them back, drain the swamp. 87% to go. He still has until October, you know.

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He still has until October, you know.

Yes sometimes more:


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Eliminate the federal debt in 8 years

In this case he has 4.5 years still but to this point he has added about $3 Trillion in debt maybe he was misquoted again ?


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Grow the economy by 4 percent a year

Not even in his dreams.


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Balance the federal budget 'fairly quickly'

Whoopsy - its going the other way, a lot the other way.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 9:51pm:

Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:33pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:21pm: Karnal wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 9:17pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. True, but Mr Trump never meant the other 87%. He was just having a bit of a laugh, no? Was Lock her up an election promise or just a Trump cult chant ? Sounds like a core erection promise to me. Lock her up, send them back, drain the swamp. 87% to go. He still has until October, you know. Think it may have been a mis quote about the swamp. Seems that Trump has been extending the swamp, he has built more swamp than wall a lot more.

It's a lie. You show me where Mr Trump ever said he'd drain any swamps.

Go on, tell me that.

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25^th, 2020 at 7:32pm:

capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered.

Totally wrong and misleading

Building wall  - delivered
New economical agreement with China in US favour - Delivered
New economical agreement with Canada and Mexico in US favour - Delivered
Recovering US economy - Delivered
More jobs for US workers and reducing unemployment - Delivered
catting taxis - Delivered
No more new wars - Delivered

Draining and defeating liberal swamp - underway

Excluding the last one 100% Delivered

:)

capitosinora wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:24am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. Totally wrong and misleading Building wall  - delivered

Incorrect.

Not a single inch of new wall has been built.

.

A picture tells a thousand words


and all over world news right now


is the photo of the Indian PM bear-hugging Trump

a full body embrace

took Trump aback as you can tell

So that's the esteem in which Trump is regarded

a full body embrace, as in:  'Saviour, you've come to us.  Please never leave us.  We need you.  You are a god to us.  We revere you.  I, the PM reveres you and wish to spend the rest of my days in your arms '

Trump was touched and a little concerned, as you can see.  But he allowed the Indian PM to hug him because he understands that to the rest of the world, he, Trump, is regarded as a a big father figure, a saviour, as someone to be loved and respected


and now poor India is frantically building hasty walls to spare Trump the sight of its wrecked civilization and to hide its own shame -- because it respects Trump so greatly and believes his brilliant blue eyes should be spared the sight of itself

and that's just India

would be the same wherever Trump went

Giant of a man who inspires confidence in others through the air he expels

a once in a lifetime colossus and embodiment of white greatness


doesn't take any analysis


just one look at the India PM explains it all

PZ547 wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 1:02pm:

. A picture tells a thousand words and all over world news right now is the photo of the Indian PM bear-hugging Trump

And Trump slipping his hand inside his clothes.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/1024/branded_news/6A0F/production/_111015172_p084l6pt.jpg

Where have I seen that before?

https://media.vanityfair.com/photos/585ae85c32afd6313e4308fa/master/w_1600%2Cc_limit/trump-women-sisters-01.jpg

capitosinora wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:24am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. Totally wrong and misleading Building wall  - delivered New economical agreement with China in US favour - Delivered New economical agreement with Canada and Mexico in US favour - Delivered Recovering US economy - Delivered More jobs for US workers and reducing unemployment - Delivered catting taxis - Delivered No more new wars - Delivered Draining and defeating liberal swamp - underway Excluding the last one 100% Delivered :)

Building wall
Not building wall, repairing fencing. Not an inch of new land has been purchased for a wall, despite the longest government shutdown in US history. Mr Trump's already abandoned the idea of a big beautiful wall in favour of "steel slats".

New economical agreement with China in US favour
No agreement with China and a worse deal for America since China introduced retaliatory tariffs. American companies and farmers have lost billions in trade, and in the foreseeable future. A deal is projected to be years away.

New economical agreement with Canada and Mexico in US favour
Minor NAFTA updates, but okay.

Recovering US economy
The US economy was recovering in 2015, when it beat the current growth rate.

More jobs for US workers and reducing unemployment
True - on a trajectory from 2015, when Mr Trump said the Department of Labour stats were FAKE. Now? Oh, now they're telling the truth.

catting taxis
The tax cuts were a long-term plan of Republicans in congress. Mr Trump just signed it.

No more new wars
Oh. Was that a promise? I thought he was promising to end the current ones.

Draining and defeating liberal swamp
And impeached for creating his own swamp - the only president in US history to bribe another country with military aid to investigate a rival politician's son. The only president to call for foreign countries to hack his political opponents. The only president to watch his lawyer jailed for an election felony ordered by him. The only presidential candidate to have multiple senior members of his team convicted for lying to the FBI and congress. The only president...

We won't go on, dear. Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?

Apr 13, 2019 - Senior Congress leader Prithviraj Chavan has lambasted the Narendra Modi government, calling it the "most corrupt" in the history of India.

Don Don you got to be saving me with promptly. Save oh great Donald save, the dirty judges breathe on my neck.

capitosinora wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:24am:

Building wall  - delivered New economical agreement with China in US favour - Delivered New economical agreement with Canada and Mexico in US favour - Delivered Recovering US economy - Delivered More jobs for US workers and reducing unemployment - Delivered catting taxis - Delivered No more new wars - Delivered Draining and defeating liberal swamp - underway Excluding the last one 100% Delivered :)

Yes, he did well on the catting taxis. Got onto that one straightaway. Learn to read and write English my Serbian friend before you attempt dialogue with your superiors.

capitosinora wrote on Feb 26^th, 2020 at 10:24am:

Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:32pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:48pm: Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:18pm: capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:04pm: athos wrote on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 10:08am: Gordon wrote on Feb 20th, 2020 at 7:44am: I think they're approaching it from the wrong side. People voted for Trump because the alternative was so unpalatable.  Hillary and Trump are both liars but when Trump lies, he winks while Hillary thinks she's fooling people. Hillary and Trump are both arseholes but Trump owns it while Hillary tries to sell her self as being a moral person. They all try to do this Clinton's dynasty, Bush's dynasty.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bZzM4s0Hgs&feature=youtu.be&t=48 You are totally wrong, President Trump is different. He has moral integrity. There has never been a politician with less integrity. Everything what Trump promised so far he delivered. He is up to about 17% delivered. Totally wrong and misleading Building wall  - delivered New economical agreement with China in US favour - Delivered New economical agreement with Canada and Mexico in US favour - Delivered Recovering US economy - Delivered More jobs for US workers and reducing unemployment - Delivered catting taxis - Delivered No more new wars - Delivered Draining and defeating liberal swamp - underway Excluding the last one 100% Delivered :)

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Building wall  - delivered

Not sure what it is up to now but till last November there hadn't been one foot of new wall built. They did replace some old fence.


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New economical agreement with Canada and Mexico in US favour - Delivered

Not sure that dishonestly and without morals undermining other countries economies to prop up his own is such a great thing to do. Nothing to be proud of here.


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New economical agreement with China in US favour - Delivered

Trump started a trade war that hurt the USA the Trade deal was a big time back down by Trump to try to save the election. Trump is pretending that he somehow won - he didn't he capitulated.


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Draining and defeating liberal swamp - underway

In the current round of claimed swamp draining Trump is mainly getting rid of people that he appointed himself. The biggest swamp monster is a chubby Orange man named Trump - always was.

Capitosinora's gone, Dnerever. Good video though.