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Title: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Yadda on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 9:02am Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign for President !!! IMAGE..... BREAKING - Bernie is to be investigated by FBI, after he is elected POTUS !!!!! Its a certainty. Isn't it ??? :D Quote:
Oh no!!!!!! Oh no!!!!!! Oh no!!!!!! This clearly means, that after Bernie Sanders is elected POTUS, that the FBI will have to investigate, whether, or how, Bernie Sanders, conspired to help the Russian efforts to have him elected POTUS !! Take it to the bank ! |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by chimera on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 9:20am
TASS news Moscow:
Police were called to break up a fist fight in the SHF (State Hacking Facility, St Petersburg) between Dems and Rep factions. The deciding vote will come from V Putin ( Rep., White House). |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 9:47am
If Russia is helping Sanders it would be because they think Trump a better chance of beating Sanders and them a better chance if diminishing the Dem vote if Sanders is nominated.
However it does not really matter why they support the guy they own Trump or if they impact Sanders or anyone else. The thing is that they need to be stopped from having any influence. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by chimera on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 11:03am
Bloomberg is the man to back for his donations to Russia's central bank Sberbank Russi. Trump is on skid row.
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Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 12:15pm
They tried to help Trump too, the problem is Trump took no action against their assistance, welcomes it, aked for it, met with their officials for further dirt on his political opponent and since being President has been soft on them, taking Putin's word over his own intelligence agencies and not sanctioning Russia when there was evidence of their wrongdoing.
Do you think Sanders will do the same? One of these things is not like the other. But yeah, witchhunt innit. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by chimera on Feb 22nd, 2020 at 12:26pm
You gotta feel sorry for the Pentagon trying to corrupt the Russian democratic structures.
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Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Richdude on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:21am
Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign for President !!!
Obviously! Bernie is a commie and being supported by Vlad - a covert Marxist. Anyone who doubts this is a fool! Special Council needed - Maxine Waters should chair the inquiry. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:51am Richdude wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:21am:
No it is you who suffers that Problem. We hear that the Russians are not commies anymore ? The Russians can support Bernie for whatever reasons they like even if only to expose themselves and fracture the Democrat vote and turnout. The difference here is that where Trumps response to assistance from the Russians was to say yes please how much and by organising meetings and discussion and openly asking for certain actions as well as providing the Russians with polling information to assist their targeting of action against the polling areas of greatest benefit to Trump. Instead of that type of response from Bernie we see him telling the Russians to P1ss Off and get out of US elections. This is a rather stark difference between the two and one of many reasons that Trump was never ever fit to be President of the USA. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 9:28am
IF it's true, you have to ask why. You can be a tard and fall for the RW Narratives and Fake News, OR, you can use your brain.
Trump was supported by Russia for two reasons, it gave them someone weak they can manipulate in the White House but also it would plunge the US into Chaos internally, and it's done just that. Now, what could they possibly do to make thing even more chaotic? Have Bernie beat Trump. We know Trump has an army of people behind him who will take-up arms should he lose. We know Trump won't leave if he loses. And the Dems, none of their candidates can say what they'll do, what is their plan SHOULD they win AND Trump refuse to leave office. If the Russians or any foreign power is trying to do what was done in 2016 but in 2020, Trump only has himself to blame. He could have taken action to prevent Russia or anyone else from interfering in the elections again, strengthen the system, protect it. But, being the weak ego-driven fool that Trump is, he refused to accept he didn't win alone, that he had help to win, therefore refused to even accept there is an issue and therefore nothing that needs "fixing". Complain all you want Trumptards, this is just the start of you having to deal with all the things you've supported Trump doing and the new precedents they've created not working for you. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Rider on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 9:51am KangAnon wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 9:28am:
You been sleeping thru Muellar and the last 3 years, or just spreading lies? I say lies. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 10:06am Rider wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 9:51am:
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I think you wrong here but have to admit that as a currently practising authority on the topic your view does deserve some consideration. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 10:12am Rider wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 9:51am:
Did you miss the chapters in Mueller where about 10 separate cases of obstruction were laid out or the bits where every man and his dog in the Trump campaign had improper connections to Russia and half of the Trump team have gone to prison for telling lies to cover up for Trump? You would think that if nothing was wrong that they could tell the truth, apparently not. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by chimera on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 10:17am
"So how to explain President Donald Trump’s decision to fire Acting Director of National Intelligence Adm. Joseph Maguire after Maguire defended a subordinate who had briefed Congress on much the same thing ( as the FBI did)?
One important difference provides the answer. Maguire’s aide, Shelby Pierson told the House Intelligence Committee that Russian hackers aren’t just meddling in this year’s U.S. elections, they’re trying to help Trump win re-election, two officials familiar with the testimony tell TIME. In other words, Trump is objecting not to the facts his top intelligence experts are presenting, but to the truth they reveal." ------- Maguire's replacement is a Trumper , no skills. Trump is not demanding oaths of loyalty to him like Hitler. Of course not. I never said it. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by capitosinora on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:57pm
Bernie is a communist
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Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:12pm capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:57pm:
God Bless the USA but support the greatest threat to the USA, hard to understand. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:15pm capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:57pm:
No he once claimed to be a democratic socialist. In the US a democratic socialist would still be politically right of centre, the USA have no left. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Richdude on Feb 24th, 2020 at 3:36am Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:15pm:
Thats such a spectacularly ignorant comment. The US is returning back towards a centered system. The lies of the left are now obvious. Blacks are leaving the Democrat plantation - angry with the Dem lies. People want work - they want a future - not handouts from a shrinking gov fund. To be fair the left do highlight societal problems. But left wing politics has become an industry. It seeks to maintain these issues as it needs these to survive. The left is part of the problem - not a solution. AND there are solutions - ones they don't threaten the lives of millions of people. Ducky - you are a rabid left wing extremist. I think I'm in a better position to make judgments than someone on the other side of the World who gets his news from propaganda outlets. And yes Trump is a centrist and does look after himself. How is that a crime? His decisions do benefit America. The globalist controlled media hate the fact he is taking away their power. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 24th, 2020 at 9:30pm Richdude wrote on Feb 24th, 2020 at 3:36am:
The US is going nowhere near the centre politically. Trump is looking to con 15% to 20% of Blacks to replace the ones who voted for him last time. Trump is maybe the only republican who isn't way out on the far right, Trump is neither right nor left - Trump is for Trump and happy with either direction. Remember 20 years ago Trump was a democrat and Bloomberg was a Republican Mayor. Trump doesn't have political beliefs its all about Trump. At the moment the biggest threat to the USA is Donald Trump. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 24th, 2020 at 11:04pm
The only people who think America is heading back to the centre are comically unaware of how far they're drifting to the far right.
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Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Richdude on Feb 25th, 2020 at 2:32am KangAnon wrote on Feb 24th, 2020 at 11:04pm:
It's natural that people want to be as self-reliant and independent as possible - for themselves, family and neighbors. It's how societies grew and prospered. Its being responsible - you may call it right - wing. It's grass roots socialism that's actually effective and doesn't involve theft. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Karnal on Feb 25th, 2020 at 8:34am Richdude wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 2:32am:
Grass roots socialism, eh? Just think, Bernie's campaign is driven solely by small donations of a few dollars at a time. The corporates and institutional donors won't touch him. The Trump campaign was funded by the Mercers, the corporate oligarchs and the NRA. Even Russia chipped in. Who do you think Trump owes? In Australia, we're willing to pay tax for things like Medicare and the National Disability Insurance Scheme. We'd consider it theft if these things were taken away. What about your country, Rich? |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by capitosinora on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:38pm Dnarever wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 7:12pm:
Who supports whom? please explain. :) |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:45pm capitosinora wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 5:38pm:
A dishonest impeached President, undermining the constitution attacking the separation of power, clearly acting above the law - Yes a fellow named trump is by far the biggest threat the USA have ever faced. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 25th, 2020 at 7:59pm
Russia is helping sanders in the dem primaries just like they did in 2016.
In 2016 the aim was to undermine Clinton. Why this year who knows. The Positive is that Sanders is telling the Russians to p1ss off unlike Trump who was saying yes please. Trumps only problem with help from Russia is that they didn't help more. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Sprintcyclist on Feb 25th, 2020 at 8:05pm Richdude wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 2:32am:
I feel you. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 25th, 2020 at 8:25pm Richdude wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 2:32am:
And yet you support having a guy that can only be described as a strict authoritarian for President ? Much conflicted - Yes. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Richdude on Feb 26th, 2020 at 1:52am Dnarever wrote on Feb 25th, 2020 at 8:25pm:
No! You are confused, which is obvious from your ridiculously delusional comments. If Trump Presidency has a fault is that he does not use his considerable power as President. He's too judicious - cautious, careful that he breaks no law. Thus giving the Dims something REAL to hang him. If he wasn't cautious, Hillary, Obama, Joe, Pelosi, Schiff, Addler, Swalwell, Comey, McCabe, Brennan ..... would be in Gitmo - now! The charges? Politically motivated unwarranted and illegal spying on a Presidential candidate and President, plus staging an attempted coup. AND that is just the start. In their desperation to stop Trump they stepped over the line of political dirty tricks into illegality. If Roger Stone can get 40 months for lying under oath and foolishly reacting by making counter threats over the phone. Clearly, political sabotage. Imagine what the above weasels would receive if the tables were reversed. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 26th, 2020 at 7:36pm Richdude wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 1:52am:
WOW and you call me delusional. Bit of self projection one would conclude. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Karnal on Feb 26th, 2020 at 8:26pm Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 7:36pm:
Not at all, Dnarever. Rudy's got the affidavits. He's about to release them any day now. BREAKING... |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Dnarever on Feb 26th, 2020 at 8:45pm Karnal wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 8:26pm:
When the affidavits that Rudy was waving around were blown up they turned out to be articles from a nutso right wing fake news site - Rudy's mate who had printed the story that Rudy gave him. Yep Just fake news set up by Rudy. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by cods on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:18pm capitosinora wrote on Feb 23rd, 2020 at 6:57pm:
he certainly has a lot of nice things to say about their way of life style ::) ::)... shame it only really favor the few and those who follow the leader obviously come out on top..... better all round to be part of the inner sanctum... ;) ;) |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Karnal on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:23pm Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 8:45pm:
I believe this, but is it actually true? |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Richdude on Feb 27th, 2020 at 12:51am Dnarever wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 8:45pm:
Really? What "news site" reported that ? Politico, CNN, NBC .. the usual crap pretenders. IF Rudy's affidavits were false, he would be in trouble. Making false affidavits is a very serious crime. Given the level of hostility and what's at stake here. His opposition would have made sure he was charged and facing many years of jail. Is anyone suing Rudy? No - game set and match! You haters will believe any crap if it supports your prejudice! Rudy is the mayor who took on the NY mob and won. He straightened out NY and was the best mayor NY had in living memory. No, Rudy has credibility - unlike your fake news sites. Is their a cure for TDS? |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by greggerypeccary on Feb 27th, 2020 at 4:41am cods wrote on Feb 26th, 2020 at 9:18pm:
cods: do you know the difference between communism and socialism? |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by SadKangaroo on Feb 27th, 2020 at 6:34am Richdude wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 12:51am:
Rich, Rudy has no credibility at all. He keeps lying and changing his story. You think he has credibility because you want him to because you can't bare yet another loss in this time where you and the other Trump supporters are supposed to be winning so much you're sick of it. |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Karnal on Feb 27th, 2020 at 7:14am Richdude wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 12:51am:
Now, don't be silly. You can't be sued for waving pieces of paper around. Besides, I've never heard Rudy dish up a concrete fact yet, it's always soon to be revealed. BREAKING... |
Title: Re: Russia Is Trying To Help Bernie Sanders Campaign Post by Karnal on Feb 27th, 2020 at 7:16am KangAnon wrote on Feb 27th, 2020 at 6:34am:
Rich is probably sick of watching the Fox News presenters get a word in when Rudy's on. I feel you, Rich. We're tired of winning too. |
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