Gosh AnAl will have a fit and tell ScoMo to get off his turf!!!!

While AnAl spins aimlessly gibbering something about imaginary sports rorts, ScoMo is firing off BIG decisions like a machine gun. The voters are enchanted by their hero they selected. ScoMo is displaying Churchillian characteristics.

"We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender."



Coronavirus: PM looks to nationalise failing firms
SIMON BENSON 9:52PM MARCH 19, 2020

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Australian Prime Minister Scott Morrison and Australian Treasurer Josh Frydenberg speak to the media. Picture: AAP

Scott Morrison is heading down a road that may require him to do what was politically unimaginable only three weeks ago.

Some companies may end up having to be nationalised, if even only temporarily.

The government isn’t there just yet. But people should be under no illusion as to what might be coming down the pipeline.

It may sound dramatic but it may be necessary and, in the end, the smart and right thing to do.

The $105bn rescue package announce­d on Thursday may be just the first instalment in trying to avoid extended weakness that leaves a damaged economy.

There are privately run bus ­services, even airports and airlines and basic economic infrastructure that, if they are about to fail in the hands of private enterprise, may ultimately have to be transferred into taxpayers’ hands for a time.

Virgin could be one example of a company, if it were to go to the wall, that the government might consider a “strategic” priority.

There is no way it will allow Australia to return to a virtual ­single-carrier environment in a post-virus world.

Bailouts or buying dead ducks for a dollar. Then privatising them again on the other side of the crisis. These are the doomsday-button economic issues now occupying the minds of the Prime Minister and Josh Frydenberg.

If it all goes pear-shaped, what are the smart plays today to ensure how the country maintains a functioning economy at the end of all this?

Just as we had been warned to expect Orwellian impositions on our social fabric, which we are now living, so too people will have to accept that the economic response will include things that would otherwise have been inconceivable.

These changes are massive and they have turned political ideology on its head.

Economist Chris Richardson puts it bluntly. The way the world worked last month is now “ancient history”.

“It’s a new world,” Richardson says. “And with the Reserve Bank now mostly out of ammo in a virus world when the Australian economy is already weak, governments are going to have to do what was previously unthinkable. We will have to get over our old ways of thinking.

“And the nations that do this fast enough, to get over old ways of thinking, will be the ones that fare better. The government is going to have to spend vast amounts of money without batting an eyelid.”

Morrison now finds himself in the grip of depression economics. In that respect, he may end up being the leader for the times. He is pragmatic enough to pivot quickly and with flexibility into a new political paradigm without any hand-wringing over dogma.

And he has been able to adapt to the new political reality largely because the Liberal Party is a different party than it once was. It is no longer encumbered by the old ideological hang-ups.

You could hardly call Morrison, or his Treasurer, a hard-core economic rationalist.

The son of a copper, Morrison is a different political animal.
As one of his colleagues said: “He won’t be wrestling with his conscience about spending money to improve people’s lives, keeping them in jobs and saving the small businesses that employ them.”

Whatever it takes.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/politics/coronavirus-pm-looks-to-nationalise-failing-firms/news-story/665ad44fa48748d5085f9c33387e89f1

Bare bones Capitalism has it's limits and as humans are essentially social creatures some form of Socialism is only natural . Lets hope some good comes of all this! Perhaps a few essential services will come back into Public hands.


In the preceding years after the 2008 financial crisis, instead of having a war chest of substantial cash on hand or paying of company debt, many corporations engaged in share buyback schemes that were highly profitable for both their CEO's and shareholders.

Now these same companies are being bailed out by the general public!

Calls are currently being made for corporations that receive public funded bailouts to have future share buybacks blocked until this public money is re-payed. This could put a stop to public funds being essentially transferred to the Corporate CEO's and stockholders accounts, as was the case after the 2008 financial crisis. 

So yes it's happening again, in many incidences the ruthless drive for corporate profits has left companies heavily leveraged and vulnerable to this current shock. Will they get away with another public money grab or will they be held to account and more closely fettered to the public good? 


No doubt if left to their own devices it will be more of the same with companies feeding at the public trough for a while then once again sailing close to the wind with more financial scheming, engineering and profiteering.

The problem is that the Libs are in charge this time.  They don't do what is needed given how much they attacked Labor for doing it during the GFC.

And we'll all be much worse off because of it.

The Libs won't be able to run from it this time.  They either need to follow suit and have all their dickhead supporters such it up and admit, even to themselves, that Labor's approach really was as good as everyone said, or many of us will lose our homes, our savings and our super.

Good luck friends.  With Scumo at the wheel we're in for a rough ride.

Confusion rains as Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo hops along.

juliar wrote on Mar 20^th, 2020 at 2:18pm:

Confusion rains as Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo hops along.

We'll see if you open your eyes during the inevitable disaster that will be of the Libs making.  Will you still blindly support them in your confusion of what is real and what isn't?

Time will tell.

But looking back in the history books we see that Labor were in charge when the nation faced some of the greatest challenges and they got us through, including:

GFC
Deregulation of the 80's
WWII
The Great Depression

And each time the Libs took a partisan approach criticising what Labor did.

Will they follow Labor and take the proven steps or stubbornly stick to their same partisan lines and wreck the joint?

Juliar, do you really have faith in the current leadership to do the right thing?

Have you forgotten what happened during the bushfires?  Have you forgotten that Scumo lost all credibility after he was caught in lie after lie and ran his response like a marketing campaign?

Call me confused all you want, but you're not taking this situation seriously, as usual. 

If all you ever see is opportunities to attack those you disagree with you'll be nothing but a typical ignorant Libtard.

You should rename yourself to that, Libtard.

It suits you.

Just maybe the Commonwealth bank and the airports will be non-profit services for common wealth.  Unless they become ancient history.

Poor Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo is still confused and apologizing for something or other.

juliar wrote on Mar 20^th, 2020 at 5:29pm:

Poor Skippy the Greeny Kangyroo is still confused and apologizing for something or other.

So you can't read or you just choose to troll over answering questions?

A Reverse Back-Flip Swann Dive sure looks that way...

What is needed is a government that will re-build this nation for itself first.. Sinn Fein - ourselves alone... we ain't got nobody but each other... and those who don't want to crew the ship can leave over the side at any time.

In the UK House of Commons, Sinn Féin holds seven of Northern Ireland's 18 seats, making it the second-largest bloc after the DUP.
These don't sit and are available for Canberra.  There are also plenty in Dublin ready to go by ship as Australians themselves.

chimera wrote on Mar 21^st, 2020 at 5:53am:

In the UK House of Commons, Sinn Féin holds seven of Northern Ireland's 18 seats, making it the second-largest bloc after the DUP. These don't sit and are available for Canberra.  There are also plenty in Dublin ready to go by ship as Australians themselves.

Not sitting?  They've been DUP'd!  Canberra could do with a few Fennians... Ourselves Alone!  Erin Go Bragh!

Ireland until doomsday. It has 3 corona deaths.
Slàinte Mhaith.

My village could do with some money

These are what our village needs to bring it out of the 1940s and into the 2000s

Street lighting
Storm water drainage
Curb & guttering
Footpaths
Sealed street roads (presently dirt)
Mobile reception
Wooden bridges upgraded
Power outages reduced to two/yr instead of 34/yr
Stronger satellite signals
Road dust reduction
Aust Post mailing box
A public telephone that works

With a bit of luck Morrison might allot a few dollars for my village in his 5th stimulus for these luxuries

Abandoned mining camps are sad but low rental.  Can you buy some concrete mix and do some gutters?

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 9:04am:

My village could do with some money These are what our village needs to bring it out of the 1940s and into the 2000s Street lighting Storm water drainage Curb & guttering Footpaths Sealed street roads (presently dirt) Mobile reception Wooden bridges upgraded Power outages reduced to two/yr instead of 34/yr Stronger satellite signals Road dust reduction Aust Post mailing box A public telephone that works With a bit of luck Morrison might allot a few dollars for my village in his 5th stimulus for these luxuries

Does your area already vote Liberal or National?

chimera wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 9:15am:

Abandoned mining camps are sad but low rental.  Can you buy some concrete mix and do some gutters?

We'd be thrown in jail - there are strict rules, no unauthorized work can be done on govt land. We vote people in via compulsory voting to get these jobs done except democracy don't work too well out here. We need a new type of "People Power", one with power

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 9:20am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 9:04am: My village could do with some money These are what our village needs to bring it out of the 1940s and into the 2000s Street lighting Storm water drainage Curb & guttering Footpaths Sealed street roads (presently dirt) Mobile reception Wooden bridges upgraded Power outages reduced to two/yr instead of 34/yr Stronger satellite signals Road dust reduction Aust Post mailing box A public telephone that works With a bit of luck Morrison might allot a few dollars for my village in his 5th stimulus for these luxuries Does your area already vote Liberal or National?

National - the most useless party God ever put on this Earth

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 10:15am:

chimera wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 9:15am: Abandoned mining camps are sad but low rental.  Can you buy some concrete mix and do some gutters? We'd be thrown in jail - there are strict rules, no unauthorized work can be done on govt land. We vote people in via compulsory voting to get these jobs done except democracy don't work too well out here. We need a new type of "People Power", one with power

Forget voting based on party or policies. Keep voting out existing Mp's and Councillors until one decides to act. As long as they feel they're safe because people will vote for them anyway, you're remain a low priority and nothing will get done.

It came out a couple of years ago that liberal party Mp's have access to a computer programme that tells them how you vote based on past experience, social media posts etc. If you call a for example,a  liberal party mp, and the programme tells him you vote liberal, the receptionist will probably tell you he's busy or unavailable. Same goes for a labor voter calling. If their computer programme tells them you're a swinging voter or undecided, he'll take your call. Their logic is that He hasn't got time to talk to everyone who calls, especially during an election campaign, so he only talks to those whose vote he can hope to gain.

The labor party will have their own version of the same programme.

John Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 10:23am:

[quote author=bias_2012 link=1584657793/15#15 date=1584836105] Forget voting based on party or policies. Keep voting out existing Mp's and Councillors until one decides to act. As long as they feel they're safe because people will vote for them anyway, you're remain a low priority and nothing will get done.

As we've seen with the sports rorts scandal you are pretty much ignored if you are in a safe seat.

The best tactic is to always vote against the sitting member

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 10:15am:

We'd be thrown in jail - there are strict rules, no unauthorized work can be done on govt land.

You're
1) prisoner
2) hospital patient
3) military in bush exercise
4) squatter in national park
5) resident of Russia
6) on Manus island.

How comfortable is the jail?

John Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 10:23am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 10:15am: chimera wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 9:15am: Abandoned mining camps are sad but low rental.  Can you buy some concrete mix and do some gutters? We'd be thrown in jail - there are strict rules, no unauthorized work can be done on govt land. We vote people in via compulsory voting to get these jobs done except democracy don't work too well out here. We need a new type of "People Power", one with power Forget voting based on party or policies. Keep voting out existing Mp's and Councillors until one decides to act. As long as they feel they're safe because people will vote for them anyway, you're remain a low priority and nothing will get done. It came out a couple of years ago that liberal party Mp's have access to a computer programme that tells them how you vote based on past experience, social media posts etc. If you call a for example,a  liberal party mp, and the programme tells him you vote liberal, the receptionist will probably tell you he's busy or unavailable. Same goes for a labor voter calling. If their computer programme tells them you're a swinging voter or undecided, he'll take your call. Their logic is that He hasn't got time to talk to everyone who calls, especially during an election campaign, so he only talks to those whose vote he can hope to gain. The labor party will have their own version of the same programme.

"you're remain a low priority and nothing will get done"

Yes that's it, we are low priority, we are not Australian tax payers or rate payers or deserving of luxuries like footpaths or street lighting

We don't live in a spot for tourists or campers who get a free ride when they come here. We are not the residents who pick up the tab for those visitors. Perhaps we don't exist at all, maybe we only exist in imaginations

My rate's bill has a fee for sewerage, that might be alright, except there's no sewerage here, not for a small village like ours. Why am I paying a fee for sewerage?

The Council abolished "Wards", so what's left is a clique of Councilors looking after themselves and whatever the State govt dictates. Rate payers come a poor second

Actually, we should take things into our own hands and charge the tourists and campers a fee to enter the village, then all the begging from 1949-on would cease and work around the village could begin, hiring contractors

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 11:46am:

Yes that's it, we are low priority, we are not Australian tax payers or rate payers or deserving of luxuries like footpaths or street lighting

keep voting the bastards out

John Smith wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 11:47am:

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 11:46am: Yes that's it, we are low priority, we are not Australian tax payers or rate payers or deserving of luxuries like footpaths or street lighting keep voting the bastards out

You don't understand, the next lot just join the one big happy Council clique, they take it in turns to be Mayor and they're under the thumb of the Council Manager and the State govt, what they say goes

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 10:17am:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 9:20am: Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 22nd, 2020 at 9:04am: My village could do with some money These are what our village needs to bring it out of the 1940s and into the 2000s Street lighting Storm water drainage Curb & guttering Footpaths Sealed street roads (presently dirt) Mobile reception Wooden bridges upgraded Power outages reduced to two/yr instead of 34/yr Stronger satellite signals Road dust reduction Aust Post mailing box A public telephone that works With a bit of luck Morrison might allot a few dollars for my village in his 5th stimulus for these luxuries Does your area already vote Liberal or National? National - the most useless party God ever put on this Earth

Sorry mate.

Unless it's a marginal seat none of that is likely to get done :(

Good luck.

As I've said many times, all viable societies are a mix of socialist and capitalist - a government can only push the ultra-capitalist line so far before it breaks down, same as the opposite end of the spectrum does.

Double the pension NOW!

The_Barnacle wrote on Mar 22^nd, 2020 at 11:00am:

The best tactic is to always vote against the sitting member

Not always. What if they get off their arses and actually do something?

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 11:24am:

As I've said many times, all viable societies are a mix of socialist and capitalist - a government can only push the ultra-capitalist line so far before it breaks down, same as the opposite end of the spectrum does. Double the pension NOW!

What is the logic behind that?

Aren't pensioners in the highest risk group, shouldn't they be staying home?

I mean, everyone should...

Wouldn't it be better to target the payments more across the board, or is this more of an in general thing?

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 11:43am:

Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 11:24am: As I've said many times, all viable societies are a mix of socialist and capitalist - a government can only push the ultra-capitalist line so far before it breaks down, same as the opposite end of the spectrum does. Double the pension NOW! What is the logic behind that? Aren't pensioners in the highest risk group, shouldn't they be staying home? I mean, everyone should... Wouldn't it be better to target the payments more across the board, or is this more of an in general thing?

You mean raising the pension to double?  They'll find a way of spending it either during or after.  Someone has to save the clubs once the crisis is over.

More of an in general thing... pensioners who double as carers should get a better deal for a start.

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 11:43am:

What is the logic behind that?

many pensioners are actually pretty good at online shopping :D :D

Morrison is landing at Gallipoli now, he's calling for the ANZAC spirit, with half the population ethnic, and half those born overseas. With Turks the enemy, and muslims and darkies etc etc, he's expecting everyone to know all about the sacredness and intimate understanding of the ANZAC spirit. As a politician he should know better than to sully a spirit belonging only to the Anzacs, not to politicians who caused the death of tens of thousands of young Aussie men

This is not being socialist, it's just being desperate with an insulting twist

John Smith wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 12:05pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on Mar 23rd, 2020 at 11:43am: What is the logic behind that? many pensioners are actually pretty good at online shopping :D :D

My mother has trouble with grocery shopping but packages arrive all the time for her from her old ppls (innovations) catalogue

Spot

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 12:06pm:

Morrison is landing at Gallipoli now, he's calling for the ANZAC spirit, with half the population ethnic, and half those born overseas. With Turks the enemy, and muslims and darkies etc etc, he's expecting everyone to know all about the sacredness and intimate understanding of the ANZAC spirit. As a politician he should know better than to sully a spirit belonging only to the Anzacs, not to politicians who caused the death of tens of thousands of young Aussie men This is not being socialist, it's just being desperate with an insulting twist

he was prolly told to say that by someone equally stupid. He is a religious cultist with no empathy. You cant expect normal human stuff from him

Spot

Scommo just released a version of George Michael's 'Faith'. Don't be like George Michael, folks. If you feel the need to spill your beans a la Alan Jones' style, grab a Wet One and clean up after yourself. There's an epidemic on, you know? An epidemic of f.u.c.kery.

Bias_2012 wrote on Mar 23^rd, 2020 at 12:06pm:

not to politicians who caused the death of tens of thousands of young Aussie men

170 years after lime juice was used on ships ,  bully beef (tinned corned beef), rice, jam, cocoa, tea, some bread and above all hard tack fed the Australian soldiers at Gallipoli. This led to scurvy , dysentery , typhoid and low spirits.  Toilet rolls were a problem.