There’s over 15,000 signatures already, so please support this for supermarkets to have shopping aisles for Australian priducts only.
This makes it easier to know what is actually Australian made.  👍

https://www.gopetition.com/banners/shopping-isles-for-australian-made.html

Yeah not much aussie made available to us because its all getting exported

Spot

They could at least explain why I should attempt to restrict buying to Australian made items. Until they can show a plausible reason I won't be participating.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 7:56am:

Yeah not much aussie made available to us because its all getting exported Spot

not if China gets pizzed off with us... :) :)

I laughed yesterday in Coles  nice navel oranges....on looking where they came from its said

of mixed origin...

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 7:56am:

Yeah not much aussie made available to us because its all getting exported Spot

Yes, true that. It's called comparative advantage.

crocodile wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 7:58am:

They could at least explain why I should attempt to restrict buying to Australian made items. Until they can show a plausible reason I won't be participating.

Same here.

Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient

Spot

I would have thought the plausible explanation was obvious?

We are too reliant on Chinese products.

I believe the petition is about making Australian products available in certain aisles not about banning all imported products.

That's called being able to make a choice.

And  there is a lot of deceptive labeling on products as to real origin or country of manufacture.

i.e. the Kiwis buying in Chinese vegetables & repackaging as a product of NZ & the exporting it here.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 8:45am:

Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot

Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky.

crocodile wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky.

exporting is well and good but thats food. Where have all our factories gone? No more rag trade. no more car manufacturing etc etc

Spot

crocodile wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:08am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky.

Indeed.

So, should China follow our lead and buy only Chinese made?

I mean, if it's good for us then surely it's good for every other country too.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:08am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky. exporting is well and good but thats food. Where have all our factories gone? No more rag trade. no more car manufacturing etc etc Spot

So what. We have a comparative advantage in food and minerals and China has a comparative advantage in manufactured items. What's the big deal.

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:31am:

crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:08am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky. Indeed. So, should China follow our lead and buy only Chinese made? I mean, if it's good for us then surely it's good for every other country too.

Fukk me. Peccerhead shows sense. Can't be too bad after all.

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:28am:

crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:08am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky. exporting is well and good but thats food. Where have all our factories gone? No more rag trade. no more car manufacturing etc etc Spot

You should acquaint yourself with opportunity cost and comparative advantage. David Ricardo had this all worked out two centuries ago.

I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production.

Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items.

An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice.

Shopping aisles?

Be lucky to get half of one aisle.  :(

crocodile wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:38am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:28am: crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:08am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky. exporting is well and good but thats food. Where have all our factories gone? No more rag trade. no more car manufacturing etc etc Spot So what. We have a comparative advantage in food and minerals and China has a comparative advantage in manufactured items. What's the big deal.

Im just trying to answer the question of why we dont have a lot of aussie made available. We export to china and they import to us. i suspect they are more self-sufficient though.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 10:01am:

crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:38am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:28am: crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:08am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky. exporting is well and good but thats food. Where have all our factories gone? No more rag trade. no more car manufacturing etc etc Spot So what. We have a comparative advantage in food and minerals and China has a comparative advantage in manufactured items. What's the big deal. Im just trying to answer the question of why we dont have a lot of aussie made available. We export to china and they import to us. i suspect they are more self-sufficient though. Spot

They're not self sufficient in the goods and services where they have no comparative advantage. Same as us. That's why we export a shitt ton of food and minerals to them.

Captain Nemo wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:51am:

Shopping aisles? Be lucky to get half of one aisle.  :(

Yep !!

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

:'(

Gordon wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice.

That's a relatively minor issue. It has more to do with the opportunity cost rather than absolute cost that determines production.

I try to buy Australian whenever possible, locally made is even better and I am willing to pay more for it.  However the big supermarkets don't make it easy. Australian goods are on the top or bottom shelves or otherwise made hard to spot while the foreign crap is front and centre.   Aisles for local goods is great in theory but may be hard to implement in practice as it would mean co-locating all different types, drygoods, meat, dairy etc.  Better to clearly label Australian goods and have them in the most accessible positions.

Gordon wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:48am:

I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice.

I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::)

I don't think we need an aisle for australian made

we just need honesty with labelling

It shouldn't show the aussie flag or colours if it's not made in OZ
It should CLEARLY and in large letters say if it's made in Oz, or made from oz products.

Anything made with oz and imported products should not be allowed to advertise as aussie made

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 4:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:48am: I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice. I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::)

Wow, thank you Brian. It's truly amazing watching you display your immense intellect. Just one question though, is it an Aussie made Isle?

John Smith wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 4:51pm:

I don't think we need an aisle for australian made we just need honesty with labelling It shouldn't show the aussie flag or colours if it's not made in OZ It should CLEARLY and in large letters say if it's made in Oz, or made from oz products. Anything made with oz and imported products should not be allowed to advertise as aussie made

So the John Smith Sauce Co makes sauce from local ingredients except for 1 type of Chilli that won't grow here that he puts 1g of in each vat. John Smith can't put this in the Aussie aisle.

I reckon half the aisle would by all baby formula! 😁
Me also reckons the Chinese will love that aisle 👍

Remember Scotty saying there’s 3 times the amount of our population of food Australia produces?

So, today I went to Coles to find this high grade sushi stuff that they were supposedly letting into supermarkets at a discounted price because of restaurants being closed.

I asked at the deli, coz I’m looking looking looking... and I ask about it, no one knows what I’m on about. Get asked where did I hear it from.
I said it was on tv. Plus forum I’m on also mentioned it.

Then defeatedly I said, maybe just the inner city supermarkets not for us out here.

So, has anyone seen or bought any such specialty yet?

Newsflash!

Thousands of Australian children are becoming ill from consuming 'imported' foods and drinks. Parents are becoming mentally ill from using 'imported' goods.
Make a good lawsuit.  ;)

...but then there's the problem of 'cars'. We no longer have an 'australian-made' production.  :P

Setanta wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 5:43pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 4:47pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:48am: I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice. I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::) Wow, thank you Brian. It's truly amazing watching you display your immense intellect. Just one question though, is it an Aussie made Isle?

Funny how you leap to Gordon's defence, Set.  Funny how you won't do the same for me.  Makes me think you have favourites.  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Setanta wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 5:43pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 4:47pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:48am: I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice. I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::) Wow, thank you Brian. It's truly amazing watching you display your immense intellect. Just one question though, is it an Aussie made Isle? Funny how you leap to Gordon's defence, Set.  Funny how you won't do the same for me.  Makes me think you have favourites.  ::) ::)

Where was I defending anyone? I thanked you for your incredibly insightful and educational post and praised your enormous and profound intellect. You didn't answer my question though, is it an Aussie made Isle?

Brian Ross wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 9:33pm:

Funny how you leap to Gordon's defence, Set.  Funny how you won't do the same for me.

I don't think anyone would defend you Brian.

Must be pretty quiet at your forum I wonder why nobody stays there.  ::) ::) ::)

Setanta wrote on May 1^st, 2020 at 11:23pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 9:33pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 5:43pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 4:47pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:48am: I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice. I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::) Wow, thank you Brian. It's truly amazing watching you display your immense intellect. Just one question though, is it an Aussie made Isle? Funny how you leap to Gordon's defence, Set.  Funny how you won't do the same for me.  Makes me think you have favourites.  ::) ::) Where was I defending anyone? I thanked you for your incredibly insightful and educational post and praised your enormous and profound intellect. You didn't answer my question though, is it an Aussie made Isle?

You questioned my (mild) attempt at criticism of Gordon, Set.  That amounts to a defence.  Keep trying, it is amusing watching your antics as you make excuses.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

I hope no supermarket deliberately makes grocery shopping more complicated by doing this.

Remember Tricky Dicky Smith went for the Buy Australian agenda.

His products and other Australian products were very expensive in comparison upon this.

Many businesses and products will exploit the 'Buy Australian Only' with jacked up prices like a Petrol Station.

Brian Ross wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 2:03pm:

Setanta wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 11:23pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 1st, 2020 at 9:33pm: Setanta wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 5:43pm: Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 4:47pm: Gordon wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:48am: I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice. I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::) Wow, thank you Brian. It's truly amazing watching you display your immense intellect. Just one question though, is it an Aussie made Isle? Funny how you leap to Gordon's defence, Set.  Funny how you won't do the same for me.  Makes me think you have favourites.  ::) ::) Where was I defending anyone? I thanked you for your incredibly insightful and educational post and praised your enormous and profound intellect. You didn't answer my question though, is it an Aussie made Isle? You questioned my (mild) attempt at criticism of Gordon, Set.  That amounts to a defence.  Keep trying, it is amusing watching your antics as you make excuses.  Tsk, tsk.  ::)

If I was having a go at you, you know that doesn't have to mean I was defending Gordon's spelling mistake, that'd be a bit silly. Taking the piss out of your comment doesn't mean I was defending Gordon, they are not mutually inclusive.

If you think I was defending his spelling error, why didn't I defend him from this comment? See if you can tell the difference between that comment and yours.

Setanta wrote on May 2^nd, 2020 at 8:00pm:

If I was having a go at you, you know that doesn't have to mean I was defending Gordon's spelling mistake, that'd be a bit silly. Taking the piss out of your comment doesn't mean I was defending Gordon, they are not mutually inclusive. If you think I was defending his spelling error, why didn't I defend him from this comment? See if you can tell the difference between that comment and yours.

Consistency is not your stock in trade, Set.  ::)

You leapt to defend Gordon.  We both know why I am pissed off at you.  Now, run along and have a go at some other soul.  You are damned by your inaction as much as your actions.  ::) ::)

Coles just delivered my order. They replaced all the things i ordered with coles brand of same saying they were out of the others.

Bit desperate to sell their own brand

Spot

Brian Ross wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:05pm:

Setanta wrote on May 2nd, 2020 at 8:00pm: If I was having a go at you, you know that doesn't have to mean I was defending Gordon's spelling mistake, that'd be a bit silly. Taking the piss out of your comment doesn't mean I was defending Gordon, they are not mutually inclusive. If you think I was defending his spelling error, why didn't I defend him from this comment? See if you can tell the difference between that comment and yours. Consistency is not your stock in trade, Set.  ::) You leapt to defend Gordon.  We both know why I am pissed off at you.  Now, run along and have a go at some other soul.  You are damned by your inaction as much as your actions.  ::) ::)

You are blinded by your own pomposity self aggrandisement. As I said, check the difference between the post I linked to and yours, therein lays the answer. You still haven't said whether it's an "Aussie made isle".

crocodile wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 6:17pm:

John Smith wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 4:51pm: I don't think we need an aisle for australian made we just need honesty with labelling It shouldn't show the aussie flag or colours if it's not made in OZ It should CLEARLY and in large letters say if it's made in Oz, or made from oz products. Anything made with oz and imported products should not be allowed to advertise as aussie made So the John Smith Sauce Co makes sauce from local ingredients except for 1 type of Chilli that won't grow here that he puts 1g of in each vat. John Smith can't put this in the Aussie aisle.

that's right. Surprisingly, you caught on quicker than you usually do

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:08pm:

Coles just delivered my order. They replaced all the things i ordered with coles brand of same saying they were out of the others. Bit desperate to sell their own brand Spot

Well that’s interesting.
Can you go do a quick check at the shop just to see what’s in the shelves?
See if they are truthful.

Sophia wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:18pm:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 1:08pm: Coles just delivered my order. They replaced all the things i ordered with coles brand of same saying they were out of the others. Bit desperate to sell their own brand Spot Well that’s interesting. Can you go do a quick check at the shop just to see what’s in the shelves? See if they are truthful.

I would like to but im a bit sick ATM - hopefully only a cold.

I wonder if woollies is doing same thing?

Spot

Setanta wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:14pm:

Brian Ross wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 1:05pm: Setanta wrote on May 2nd, 2020 at 8:00pm: If I was having a go at you, you know that doesn't have to mean I was defending Gordon's spelling mistake, that'd be a bit silly. Taking the piss out of your comment doesn't mean I was defending Gordon, they are not mutually inclusive. If you think I was defending his spelling error, why didn't I defend him from this comment? See if you can tell the difference between that comment and yours. Consistency is not your stock in trade, Set.  ::) You leapt to defend Gordon.  We both know why I am pissed off at you.  Now, run along and have a go at some other soul.  You are damned by your inaction as much as your actions.  ::) ::) You are blinded by your own pomposity self aggrandisement. As I said, check the difference between the post I linked to and yours, therein lays the answer. You still haven't said whether it's an "Aussie made isle".

Jayzuz!!!!!!  Pot meet kettle.  You did leap to excuse Gordon.  it is obvious.  Yet, there you are, pretending you did not.  Let me know next time you jump in to excuse someone you don't like.

I'd love to know why Brian Ross has the shites with you.  Probably the same reason many others do.

Nope. I dont think there should be an aussie made aisle. I think there should be an aisle for things made elsewhere. There shouldn't be so much non-aussie made stuff that aussie-made is the minority.

Spot

Aussie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:38pm:

Setanta wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 1:14pm: Brian Ross wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 1:05pm: Setanta wrote on May 2nd, 2020 at 8:00pm: If I was having a go at you, you know that doesn't have to mean I was defending Gordon's spelling mistake, that'd be a bit silly. Taking the piss out of your comment doesn't mean I was defending Gordon, they are not mutually inclusive. If you think I was defending his spelling error, why didn't I defend him from this comment? See if you can tell the difference between that comment and yours. Consistency is not your stock in trade, Set.  ::) You leapt to defend Gordon.  We both know why I am pissed off at you.  Now, run along and have a go at some other soul.  You are damned by your inaction as much as your actions.  ::) ::) You are blinded by your own pomposity self aggrandisement. As I said, check the difference between the post I linked to and yours, therein lays the answer. You still haven't said whether it's an "Aussie made isle". Jayzuz!!!!!!  Pot meet kettle.  You did leap to excuse Gordon.  it is obvious.  Yet, there you are, pretending you did not.  Let me know next time you jump in to excuse someone you don't like. I'd love to know why Brian Ross has the shites with you.  Probably the same reason many others do.

I made no excuse for Gordon, I did not even mention him. I responded to Brian's post.
You're one to talk about people having the shites with anyone. The most beloved ozpol poster ever! ;D

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 1:32pm:

Sophia wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 1:18pm: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 1:08pm: Coles just delivered my order. They replaced all the things i ordered with coles brand of same saying they were out of the others. Bit desperate to sell their own brand Spot Well that’s interesting. Can you go do a quick check at the shop just to see what’s in the shelves? See if they are truthful. I would like to but im a bit sick ATM - hopefully only a cold. I wonder if woollies is doing same thing? Spot

Corona Alert!!!
Member Spot infected!!!
Abandon your posts!!!
Ban the Spot !!!

Quote:

I made no excuse for Gordon, I did not even mention him. I responded to Brian's post. You're one to talk about people having the shites with anyone. The most beloved ozpol poster ever!

And what was the Post of Brian's you responded to...relevant to?  Keep kidding yourself Setanta.

Brian obviously has the shites with you....not me.  I'd love to know why.

Brian Ross wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 4:47pm:

Gordon wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:48am: I'm totally cool with buying anything from anywhere in the world  when there is no competitive aussie option. Economies of scale etc make sense for production. Food how ever for me is 99% (aprox) local only. I'll make exceptions for a few specialty items. An Aussie made isle is a great idea not so people can ONLY buy Australian but to help with that choice. I think you have the wrong word, Gordon.  Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::)

(a) happy? Try not to have another 2 minutes to Wapner fit.

Aussie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 2:54pm:

Quote: I made no excuse for Gordon, I did not even mention him. I responded to Brian's post. You're one to talk about people having the shites with anyone. The most beloved ozpol poster ever! And what was the Post of Brian's you responded to...relevant to?  Keep kidding yourself Setanta. Brian obviously has the shites with you....not me.  I'd love to know why.

Why not just ask him if he has and why. Too hard?

My first response to him addressed nothing but this part of his comment as is plainly clear.

Quote:

Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::)

crocodile wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 9:40am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:31am: crocodile wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 9:08am: Sir Spot of Borg wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 8:45am: Well we kinda need to get rid of our dependency on china - just like other countries suddenly finding they are no longer self sufficient Spot Don't think so. We export $58 billion more to China than they export to us. You have things arse a peaky. Indeed. So, should China follow our lead and buy only Chinese made? I mean, if it's good for us then surely it's good for every other country too. Fukk me. Peccerhead shows sense. Can't be too bad after all.

Some people just don't get it.

Setanta wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 3:07pm:

Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 2:54pm: Quote: I made no excuse for Gordon, I did not even mention him. I responded to Brian's post. You're one to talk about people having the shites with anyone. The most beloved ozpol poster ever! And what was the Post of Brian's you responded to...relevant to?  Keep kidding yourself Setanta. Brian obviously has the shites with you....not me.  I'd love to know why. Why not just ask him if he has and why. Too hard? My first response to him addressed nothing but this part of his comment as is plainly clear. [quote]Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::)

[/quote]

Okay. I'll ask you to show how simple it is.  You tell me why he has the shites with you, as he says that you know why very well.

Aussie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 3:49pm:

Setanta wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 3:07pm: Aussie wrote on May 3rd, 2020 at 2:54pm: Quote: I made no excuse for Gordon, I did not even mention him. I responded to Brian's post. You're one to talk about people having the shites with anyone. The most beloved ozpol poster ever! And what was the Post of Brian's you responded to...relevant to?  Keep kidding yourself Setanta. Brian obviously has the shites with you....not me.  I'd love to know why. Why not just ask him if he has and why. Too hard? My first response to him addressed nothing but this part of his comment as is plainly clear. [quote]Australia is already an isle - an island continent in fact.  ::) ::)

Okay. I'll ask you to show how simple it is.  You tell me why he has the shites with you, as he says that you know why very well.
[/quote]

I'm not here to show you anything and I'm not interested in what he thinks or why he may be pissed, you are, go for it.

I don't think you are here for anything other than to snipe and for buttons.

Aussie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 5:30pm:

I don't think you are here for anything other than to snipe and for buttons.

bingo

Aussie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 5:30pm:

I don't think you are here for anything other than to snipe and for buttons.

Yeas.

How is the petition going! another fizzer, we should start making stuff so as we could at least fill up one isle.

Dickmite on the left, Dickcheese on the right.

Johnnie wrote on May 3^rd, 2020 at 7:22pm:

How is the petition going! another fizzer, we should start making stuff so as we could at least fill up one isle.

I just checked, when I put that petition up for our attention, there were over 15,000 signatures, now 3 days later there are over 19,500 signatures.
3 days for about 4,500 new signatures.

Will keep watch and update on this, but do these petitions ever get anything in place?
Anyone know?

The supermarkets will do it if it gets them more money.

freediver wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 8:49am:

The supermarkets will do it if it gets them more money.

Local products often cost more. Not always. It is easy to assume that a higher retail price attracts a higher profit. This is generally the case. Unfortunately, there are two things working against it.

The obvious one is that higher prices reduce demand.
The less obvious is that demand is reduced by opportunity cost rather than absolute cost.

Belgarion wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 12:35pm:

I try to buy Australian whenever possible, locally made is even better and I am willing to pay more for it.  However the big supermarkets don't make it easy. Australian goods are on the top or bottom shelves or otherwise made hard to spot while the foreign crap is front and centre.   Aisles for local goods is great in theory but may be hard to implement in practice as it would mean co-locating all different types, drygoods, meat, dairy etc.  Better to clearly label Australian goods and have them in the most accessible positions.

Exactly.

I can't see it happening.

crocodile wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 10:30am:

freediver wrote on May 4th, 2020 at 8:49am: The supermarkets will do it if it gets them more money. Local products often cost more. Not always. It is easy to assume that a higher retail price attracts a higher profit. This is generally the case. Unfortunately, there are two things working against it. The obvious one is that higher prices reduce demand. The less obvious is that demand is reduced by opportunity cost rather than absolute cost.

The real issue is that shoppers do not actually want products grouped by country of origin. They want convenience. They do not want to waste their time with two separate versions of the supermarket.

freediver wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 11:23am:

crocodile wrote on May 4th, 2020 at 10:30am: freediver wrote on May 4th, 2020 at 8:49am: The supermarkets will do it if it gets them more money. Local products often cost more. Not always. It is easy to assume that a higher retail price attracts a higher profit. This is generally the case. Unfortunately, there are two things working against it. The obvious one is that higher prices reduce demand. The less obvious is that demand is reduced by opportunity cost rather than absolute cost. The real issue is that shoppers do not actually want products grouped by country of origin. They want convenience. They do not want to waste their time with two separate versions of the supermarket.

Especially when the Australian offerings like the Dick Smith 'Buy Aussie' era were more expensive with no proof of higher quality.

Only Australian Foods can get some sort of 'quality for price' justification.
But there are many Aussie products that are a rip-off and crap compared to overseas stuff.
Hell, it took a couple of school girls to prove that Ribena had  absolutely no 'Vitamin B1, B2, etc' as they stated in their adverts.

Maybe we need aisles that shelve 'Quality' goods regardless of country?

In NZ they have a chain that although expensive, give the consumer the choice to purchase 'good stuff' while those who prefer not to 'spend as much' enjoy the Pack n' Save style.

nothing annoys me more than going to my usual shop and finding its been rearranged  >:( >:( >:( >:(...to me its the worst thing a shop can do....look at Bunnings every shop is the same....you know exactly where you want to go ....

very few people go to mooch round grocery shops... its a place to get in and out of as quick as possible....

hey I saw toilet rolls on the shelf for the first time in  a while.....I should have taken a selfie.. :)

Haha IGA are the opposite of bunnings. They are all different. Some of them arrange by brand which is extremely annoying.

Spot

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 11:36am:

Haha IGA are the opposite of bunnings. They are all different. Some of them arrange by brand which is extremely annoying. Spot

my local is too small  two people in an aisle and its full...

not sure about brand arranging I dont notice things like that..

greggerypeccary wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 10:33am:

Belgarion wrote on Apr 30th, 2020 at 12:35pm: I try to buy Australian whenever possible, locally made is even better and I am willing to pay more for it.  However the big supermarkets don't make it easy. Australian goods are on the top or bottom shelves or otherwise made hard to spot while the foreign crap is front and centre.   Aisles for local goods is great in theory but may be hard to implement in practice as it would mean co-locating all different types, drygoods, meat, dairy etc.  Better to clearly label Australian goods and have them in the most accessible positions. Exactly. I can't see it happening.

I had thought of this, but realized that all packaged food comes in their own boxes labelled from where it comes from, so it wouldn't be so hard to distinguish Australian made products from those that come from overseas.

For instance, when on the 2nd last cruise, we did the ship tour, we were also shown where the refrigerated section was with all the foods in boxes etc.
I was taking an interest in reading where everything came from, it was all clearly labelled.
For instance, whatever came from the so many different countries, it actually intrigued me.
I wondered why so many different options from all over the place.
Then I saw something that amazed me even further, strawberries, came from my home place!
Wow, there you go.
And all easily locatable and where it came from, every cool store item of food stuff.
So I can't see why it would be so difficult for a supermarket.

No guesswork needed really.

cods wrote on May 4^th, 2020 at 11:43am:

Sir Spot of Borg wrote on May 4th, 2020 at 11:36am: Haha IGA are the opposite of bunnings. They are all different. Some of them arrange by brand which is extremely annoying. Spot my local is too small  two people in an aisle and its full... not sure about brand arranging I dont notice things like that..

The petition is aimed at bigger supermarkets, such as Coles, Woolworths, and IGA.

Sophia wrote on Apr 30^th, 2020 at 7:45am:

There’s over 15,000 signatures already, so please support this for supermarkets to have shopping aisles for Australian priducts only. This makes it easier to know what is actually Australian made.  👍 https://www.gopetition.com/banners/shopping-isles-for-australian-made.html

consumer boycotts rarely make much difference
It's easy to virtue signal on social media but in the end people aren't prepared to pay twice as much for the same item

They can be very effective. It is rarely the case that the alternative costs twice as much. The difference with buy Australia is that not many people actually care that much. Though it is enough for some businesses to stay in business despite being overpriced.

freediver wrote on May 7^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

They can be very effective. It is rarely the case that the alternative costs twice as much. The difference with buy Australia is that not many people actually care that much. Though it is enough for some businesses to stay in business despite being overpriced.

It isn't really effective across the economy, only individually. By paying a higher price it also has a higher opportunity cost meaning less available funds to be spent on other commodities. In the end, someone misses out.

The target company usually realises the error of their way pretty quickly, and their grovelling apology is accepted.