And they do - a win for the people and a lose for tyranny!

Reason triumphs!

https://youtu.be/DTqipTcwxyA

This is just the start - the globalists will lose!

https://youtu.be/ed19xCA-beE

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 2:41am:

And they do - a win for the people and a lose for tyranny! Reason triumphs! https://youtu.be/DTqipTcwxyA This is just the start - the globalists will lose!

Appealing to these cops reason and conscience worked!

If law enforcement no longer respond to their corrupt governors - the game is over.

US citizens should thank him for his service, but that doesn't mean he's an expert on infectious disease or the economy.

He's perpetuating the growing spread of the virus.  He's part of the problem.

But he says what you like so that's all you need, right?

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 8:48am:

US citizens should thank him for his service, but that doesn't mean he's an expert on infectious disease or the economy. He's perpetuating the growing spread of the virus.  He's part of the problem. But he says what you like so that's all you need, right?

No! I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth!

He reminds all that the constitution is the highest law of the land. That the governor is acting illegally and that the police need to take note. Which they did.

The law is based on morality - wheres the morality in locking up people, destroying their businesses, losing their homes ... there is none. Especially as I see it - a fraud.

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 9:30am:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 8:48am: US citizens should thank him for his service, but that doesn't mean he's an expert on infectious disease or the economy. He's perpetuating the growing spread of the virus.  He's part of the problem. But he says what you like so that's all you need, right? No! I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth! He reminds all that the constitution is the highest law of the land. That the governor is acting illegally and that the police need to take note. Which they did.

I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth!


All this statement does is prove Sad correct. What is the truth, it seems to be in this context anything you agree with.


And if its constitutionally invalid take it to the Supreme Court

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 9:34am:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:30am: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 8:48am: US citizens should thank him for his service, but that doesn't mean he's an expert on infectious disease or the economy. He's perpetuating the growing spread of the virus.  He's part of the problem. But he says what you like so that's all you need, right? No! I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth! He reminds all that the constitution is the highest law of the land. That the governor is acting illegally and that the police need to take note. Which they did. I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth! All this statement does is prove Sad correct. What is the truth, it seems to be in this context anything you agree with. And if its constitutionally invalid take it to the Supreme Court

Hello! Anybody home? Are the lights on in Horsy's cave?

You don't have to take it to the supreme court. Its obviously an open obvious abuse of the constitution. The right to address grievances, the right to congregate and the right to free speech.

The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!

These people have chosen to express themselves peacefully - ignoring imposed "security" measures.

This virus has been used as a vehicle to impose draconian measures and those responsible need to be shot - dead!

The right to die?

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 9:49am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:34am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:30am: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 8:48am: US citizens should thank him for his service, but that doesn't mean he's an expert on infectious disease or the economy. He's perpetuating the growing spread of the virus.  He's part of the problem. But he says what you like so that's all you need, right? No! I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth! He reminds all that the constitution is the highest law of the land. That the governor is acting illegally and that the police need to take note. Which they did. I like the fact that he's telling the truth and thats why you don't like him - being anti-truth! All this statement does is prove Sad correct. What is the truth, it seems to be in this context anything you agree with. And if its constitutionally invalid take it to the Supreme Court Hello! Anybody home? Are the lights on in Horsy's cave? You don't have to take it to the supreme court. Its obviously an open obvious abuse of the constitution. The right to address grievances, the right to congregate and the right to free speech. The right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness! These people have chosen to express themselves peacefully - ignoring imposed "security" measures. This virus has been used as a vehicle to impose draconian measures and those responsible need to be shot - dead!

Are you a Supreme Court judge? I thought only they could say things like Its obviously an open obvious abuse of the constitution.


Plus which amendment is about grievances?

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 9:51am:

The right to die?

Yes that right to!

Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer?

What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung!

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 9:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years?

Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:00am:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0

That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections

Its not rocket science Horsy!

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy!

No its epidemiology and that's why they use case fatality rate. Notice how I've used the term case fatality rate?


Thanks for playing

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:36am:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:27am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy! No its epidemiology and that's why they use case fatality rate. Notice how I've used the term case fatality rate? Thanks for playing

Umm... yes I did notice that Bojack.
Thats for registered patients.

But many people who have the virus are unregistered - they don't see their doctor or go to hospital. The ones that are the mild cases or can't afford to. Those are unregistered.

Only a fraction of those who have the disease go to hospital. So the figure of between 1 - .05% are realistic.

And then for hundredth time!

Last year in the US 80,000 people died from the flu and resulting pneumonia. Thats 80,000 and that wasn't including unrelated conditions bundled in to exaggerate the numbers for political purposes.

The Demon Rats have turned this into (or always was) a political issue. And politics has nothing to do with truth.

Was Trump responsible for that as the Demon Rats are now claiming for 2020?

    

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 9:58am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung!

So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then?

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 1:30pm:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:36am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:27am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy! No its epidemiology and that's why they use case fatality rate. Notice how I've used the term case fatality rate? Thanks for playing Umm... yes I did notice that Bojack. But people who have the virus and are unregistered - they don't see their doctor or go to hospital. The ones that are the mild cases or can't afford to. Those are unregistered. Only a fraction of those who have the disease go to hospital. And then for hundredth time! Last year in the US 80,000 people died from the flu and resulting pneumonia. Thats 80,000 and that wasn't including unrelated conditions bundled in to exaggerate the numbers for political purposes. Was Trump responsible for that as the Demon Rats are now claiming for 2020!

That's 80000 in a year.  How long has COVID 19 been in the US?

Careful how you answer because the same answer to this question is also used to gauge the length of Trump's inaction in the beginning.

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 1:33pm:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung! So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then?

Thats called tongue in cheek son! Emphasizing the fact of course people in their 80's have a greater death rate than younger.

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 1:45pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:33pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung! So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then? Thats called tongue in cheek son! Emphasizing the fact of course people in their 80's have a greater death rate than younger.

So when you say something that isn't true it's just tongue in cheek huh?

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:27am:

Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy! Quote: That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital.

Or diagnosed by a Doctor.

You do understand that the 0.1% for the Flu is measured in the same way ? They do not count the cases they don't know about ? you know the apples compared to apples method.

Carona deaths v known cases = 7% AND Flu deaths V known cases = 0.1%

Dnarever wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 8:58pm:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:27am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy! Quote: That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Or diagnosed by a Doctor. You do understand that the 0.1% for the Flu is measured in the same way ? They do not count the cases they don't know about ? you know the apples compared to apples method. Carona deaths v known cases = 7% AND Flu deaths V known cases = 0.1%

What I'm saying is that this virus has been weaponized. The number of deaths have been exaggerated.

This fact is born out by my previous posts where people who died with other conditions have had their diagnosis changed to covid-19. Because the corona virus was found in their system.

The Demon Rats have politicized this issue as they do with most.

If this lockdown continues as Democrat governors want the result will be far worse than any pandemic. The supermarkets are already starting to run low on food.

However remember - its all Trumps fault!

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 1:57pm:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:33pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung! So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then? Thats called tongue in cheek son! Emphasizing the fact of course people in their 80's have a greater death rate than younger. So when you say something that isn't true it's just tongue in cheek huh?

I really have to spell things out for you Sad. I'm being facetious!

The average age of deaths from this virus is 80 - 82 YO. Of course the rate of death will be higher and this is where much of the conflated figures are coming from.

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:32pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 8:58pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:27am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy! Quote: That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Or diagnosed by a Doctor. You do understand that the 0.1% for the Flu is measured in the same way ? They do not count the cases they don't know about ? you know the apples compared to apples method. Carona deaths v known cases = 7% AND Flu deaths V known cases = 0.1% What I'm saying is that this virus has been weaponized. The number of deaths have been exaggerated. This fact is born out by my previous posts where people who died with other conditions have had their diagnosis changed to covid-19. Because the corona virus was found in their system.

On what evidence do you base your assertion that these people died from other conditions? All your "evidence" shows is that the cause of death has been changed to death from Covid 19 if they were found to have the Covid 19 virus. Sounds fair to me. They contracted and suffered from Covid 19, then they died. Sure has hell not going to write death by accident on the death certificate are they you dufus?

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:38pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:57pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:33pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung! So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then? Thats called tongue in cheek son! Emphasizing the fact of course people in their 80's have a greater death rate than younger. So when you say something that isn't true it's just tongue in cheek huh? I really have to spell things out for you Sad. I'm being facetious! The average age of deaths from this virus is 80 - 82 YO. Of course the rate of death will be higher and this is where much of the conflated figures are coming from.

People are dying in the Us currently at 3 times the normal rate. Whichever demographic that represents it is not being inflated, coflated or any other flated. They are dying, and its because of the virus. There is nothing "fake" about the number of people dying.

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:32pm:

Dnarever wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 8:58pm: Or diagnosed by a Doctor. You do understand that the 0.1% for the Flu is measured in the same way ? They do not count the cases they don't know about ? you know the apples compared to apples method. Carona deaths v known cases = 7% AND Flu deaths V known cases = 0.1% What I'm saying is that this virus has been weaponized. The number of deaths have been exaggerated. This fact is born out by my previous posts where people who died with other conditions have had their diagnosis changed to covid-19. Because the corona virus was found in their system. The Demon Rats have politicized this issue as they do with most. If this lockdown continues as Democrat governors want the result will be far worse than any pandemic. The supermarkets are already starting to run low on food. However remember - its all Trumps fault!

Quote:

The number of deaths have been exaggerated.

No the deaths have been under quoted by at least 30%.

rhino wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:40pm:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:32pm: Dnarever wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 8:58pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:27am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:00am: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 containment for 5 years? Case fatality rate currently sits at about 7% so where this 1% BS came from who knows https://www.bing.com/search?q=coronavirus&form=EDGEAR&qs=PF&cvid=558866bf8b1a403597bbf839cf7f5d80&cc=AU&setlang=en-US&DAF0=1&plvar=0 That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Many don't go to hospital - in fact many just have a runny nose. Depending on the strength of their immune system. And then there are those with the antibodies which is a large proportion of the population. thus you have the figure of .05 - 1 % fatality on AQLL covid-19 infections Its not rocket science Horsy! Quote: That 7% fatality rate is for those admitted to hospital. Or diagnosed by a Doctor. You do understand that the 0.1% for the Flu is measured in the same way ? They do not count the cases they don't know about ? you know the apples compared to apples method. Carona deaths v known cases = 7% AND Flu deaths V known cases = 0.1% What I'm saying is that this virus has been weaponized. The number of deaths have been exaggerated. This fact is born out by my previous posts where people who died with other conditions have had their diagnosis changed to covid-19. Because the corona virus was found in their system. On what evidence do you base your assertion that these people died from other conditions? All your "evidence" shows is that the cause of death has been changed to death from Covid 19 if they were found to have the Covid 19 virus. Sounds fair to me. They contracted and suffered from Covid 19, then they died. Sure has hell not going to write death by accident on the death certificate are they you dufus?

You haven't read my previous posts.

We all have this corona virus its part of us. Trillions of viruses live in us - all the time.

Having the virus doesn't mean the virus is actively multiplying or this virus is causing the illness. How could it? You would have to take hundreds of samples over a period of time.

These doctors brilliant as they are - are in a dark room with a candle.

Here's Jon Rappaport - pullitzer prize winner who has spent 30 years studying this topic.

I want to make a vital distinction that clears up confusion.

When people---for example, medical researchers---are playing a game to further their purpose, and the game is a fraud, you have two ways to go.

You can ENTER THEIR GAME, temporarily, to show how, in their own terms, by their own standards, they are contradicting themselves and committing fraud.

Or you can STAND OUTSIDE THEIR GAME, and show how the very structure and rules and assumptions of the game, to begin with, are riddled with lies.

In this article, I'll do both.  And I'll make it clear when I'm INSIDE and when I'm OUTSIDE.

Why bother?  Because it clarifies the mind.  That's always a good thing. It's especially good during this wall-to-wall criminal event called COVID-19.

And readers deserve to know whether a writer is actually accepting the game the bad guys are playing; or whether he's just momentarily dipping into the game, in order to reveal its absurdities.

OK, here we go.  Let's look at CASE NUMBERS.

Now, I'm inside their game.  I'm assuming, as they do, that a case of COVID-19 is real.  It means something.  It denotes disease, infection, as a result of a virus.  Ditto for a case of the flu, or what is called ILI, influenza-like illness.  These cases are also real, they denote infection and illness as a result of a virus.

Start with Europe and just plain seasonal flu.  Not COVID.  According to the World Health Organization (WHO) Europe, "During the winter months, influenza may infect up to 20% of the population..."

The population of Europe is 741 million people.  This works out to 148 million cases of ordinary flu.  Not once.  Every year.  EVERY YEAR.

As of May 2, 2020, the number of COVID cases in Europe is 1,361,853, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.  Suppose we multiply that number by 2, or 4, or 20, to arrive a yearly figure for COVID cases in Europe.  Does it approach, even vaguely, 148 million cases of flu---year after year after year?

According to the European Centre, the number of COVID cases in Italy is 209,328.

According to sciencedirect[dot]com, "In the winter seasons from 2013/14 to 2016/17, an estimated average of 5,290,000 ILI [influenza-like illness] cases occurred in Italy, corresponding to an incidence of 9%." That's 5 million plus each year.  Not just once.

Multiply the number of COVID cases in Italy by whatever number you choose, and see what it takes to arrive at the flu-case level for a year.  Year after year.

Finally, let's look at figures for ordinary flu, for the whole planet.  A study published in the journal, Pharmacy and Therapeutics, states, "Influenza is a highly contagious respiratory illness that is responsible for significant morbidity and mortality. Approximately 9% of the world's population is affected annually, with up to 1 billion infections, 3 to 5 million severe cases, and 300,000 to 500,000 deaths each year."

However, WHO Europe pegs the death figure higher: "A recent study found that worldwide up to 650,000 people die of respiratory diseases linked to seasonal influenza each year..."

Right now, the COVID global death toll stands at 245,000.  For roughly half a year.  So, for 2020, COVID could approach the number of seasonal flu deaths.  What about the next 10 or 20 years?  Flu deaths are astronomically high every year.

All in all, on what basis---comparing seasonal flu and COVID---do we now have a COVID planetary lockdown, versus no lockdowns for seasonal flu at any time?  It makes no sense.

Given the long-term track record of the flu, and the official response, meaning no lockdowns, it makes absolutely zero sense to have a lockdown now.  The official numbers don't support it.

Given the game of official case numbers, and accepting those numbers---for example, one BILLION flu infections year after year---the refusal to administer widespread lockdowns for flu MEANS there should be no COVID lockdown now.

The numbers game traps and contradicts and implicates itself.  It yields up: NO LOCKDOWN NOW.

But there IS a lockdown now.

All right.  Let me step outside the numbers game.  I'll take up a position far enough away to analyze its basis.

And I'll simply say: ALL COVID-19 case numbers are meaningless.

Why?

ONE: Researchers never properly discovered a new virus in China in the first place.  Their claim of having done so is false.

TWO: The widespread diagnostic test for the virus in a patient, the PCR, is riddled with irreparable flaws.  It spits out false-positives, because the test reacts to the presence of irrelevant germs that have nothing to do with a purported COVID.  Most importantly the test has never been vetted, in the real world, for its claimed ability to detect whether a patient is ill or is going to become ill.

THREE: Many diagnoses of COVID in patients are based on no tests at all, but rather eyeball assessment, guesswork, unproven assumptions, outright lying, or, in China, CT scans of the lungs, which prove nothing about the presence of COVID or any other supposedly causative virus.

To explore the particulars of my reasons ONE and TWO, you need to read my prior articles on the fake COVID pandemic.  The link to my COVID articles is below.  In particular, I suggest reading, "Two vital experiments that have never been done," for my refutation of both the discovery of a new virus and the validity of the PCR test.

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Therefore, again, ALL case numbers of COVID are meaningless.

Likewise, all seasonal flu or flu-like numbers are meaningless.  As just one illustration of this fact, I have published, many times, Peter Doshi's shocking investigation of US flu deaths.  Doshi reported in the online BMJ, on December 10, 2005, "...CDC claims 36,000 Americans annually die from flu...Meanwhile, according to the CDC's National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), "influenza and pneumonia" took 62,034 lives in 2001---61 777 of which were attributed to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was flu virus positively identified..."

After both stepping outside the numbers game, and momentarily stepping into it, what are we left with?  We know that people have been falling ill, for a long, long time, with respiratory problems of various kinds.  The human race has survived, without a lockdown on the scale we have now, and without the deaths caused by economic devastation.  If you wanted to enable general immunity (aka health), regardless of how you define and describe it, you would now promote people being in close contact with one another.  If you wanted to postpone immunity/health, you would lock people up and separate them.

As for the true causes of illness and disease, I have commented on that subject in other places.  It's not the purpose of this article.  I will say this: In modern times, we must never ignore poisonous vaccination campaigns; other toxic medical treatments, including many drugs; the insults delivered by pesticides, GMOs, industrial pollutants, and electromagnetic technologies; and the promotion of fear.  Germ theory is not king.  It never was.

Ok, I got it. Bipolar.

rhino wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 11:18pm:

Ok, I got it. Bipolar.

You got bipolar!

I'm sorry to hear that Rhino.

Interesting HCQ costs peanuts - so its made illegal to prescribe.

Fauci's favorite Remdisiver costs $4,640 to purchase and $10 to produce - nice!

Get the picture? Its not about saving lives  - its money!

https://youtu.be/L1khWA6Cw-8

There's a special place in hell for Fauci and co!

rhino wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 11:18pm:

Ok, I got it. Bipolar.

Its hard to get hard figures Rhino for the reasons I've stated.

What we do know is that deaths from other conditions are falling coinciding with an increase in Covid-19 deaths.

Hospitals are empty and going broke for lack of business. There are 2 cases in this county and 1 death. She was 91 YO.

Would the democrat/media complex lie about the severity of this crises? Can I sell you the London Bridge?

This is an example of what I mean Rhino.

Its the number of tests being performed - not the number of persons being tested.

Virginia: The number of COVID-19 cases jumped 15% overnight last Friday due to a change in how cases are counted. The Department of Health announced it now is counting the number of positive virus tests instead of the number of people who test positive. If one person is tested three-times and all three tests are positive, the records now show three cases. Other states, including North Carolina, have been reporting numbers that way for several months.

Virginia sees jump in COVID-19 testing

https://www.nbc12.com/2020/05/01/virginia-is-seeing-jump-covid-testing/

Richdude wrote on May 6^th, 2020 at 10:38pm:

SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:57pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:33pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung! So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then? Thats called tongue in cheek son! Emphasizing the fact of course people in their 80's have a greater death rate than younger. So when you say something that isn't true it's just tongue in cheek huh? I really have to spell things out for you Sad. I'm being facetious! The average age of deaths from this virus is 80 - 82 YO. Of course the rate of death will be higher and this is where much of the conflated figures are coming from.

Just like Trump was being sarcastic?

Sure......

Different set of rules again huh....

SadKangaroo wrote on May 7^th, 2020 at 7:49am:

Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 10:38pm: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:57pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:45pm: SadKangaroo wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 1:33pm: Richdude wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:58am: Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on May 6th, 2020 at 9:51am: The right to die? Yes that right to! Last time I heard the fatalities were under 1% and falling - less that the flu. And the average age of deaths in the US is 80 - 82. Far far higher than in young people - very perplexing and disturbing! Maybe Bojack with his fact based, peer reviewed thought processes can give us an answer? What happens if there is an outbreak of the cold - or God forbid herpes! Level 4 underground containment for 5 years? Achtung! So next on the agenda is legalised euthanasia and abortion then? Thats called tongue in cheek son! Emphasizing the fact of course people in their 80's have a greater death rate than younger. So when you say something that isn't true it's just tongue in cheek huh? I really have to spell things out for you Sad. I'm being facetious! The average age of deaths from this virus is 80 - 82 YO. Of course the rate of death will be higher and this is where much of the conflated figures are coming from. Just like Trump was being sarcastic? Sure...... Different set of rules again huh....

Oh Boy! Stupid is as stupid does!

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Latest news from that highly regarded news propaganda disinfo news source - NBC. Tells us all we need to know about this crises.

The reason why hospital doctors are being paid $30,000 to diagnose each dead patient. Is because the gov wants to reimburse hospitals for there lack of business!

Umm... I think you need to think through that narrative a little more carefully!