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Title: lots of sharks around Post by freediver on Jun 7th, 2020 at 11:47am
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@NSWSharkSmart SLS advise fatal shark bite at KINGSCLIFF, Tweed at 10:41 am on 7 Jun 2020. SLS has closed beach for 24 hours. I've been saying for a while now there are more sharks around. Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff in northern NSW https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-07/surfer-dies-in-shark-attack-near-kingscliff/12330334 A surfer has died after a shark attack in northern New South Wales. The attack is thought to have occurred in the past hour on Salt Beach, just south of Kingscliff. Surf Lifesaving New South Wales has released no other details. Kingscliff local Stuart Gonsal had just arrived at the beach ready for a surf, when he found out about the fatal attack. "We came down and we hadn't got in the water and police were immediately hauling people in," Mr Gonsal said. "A lot of people were still stuck out the back there. "Then an ambulance was here and we found out there was a fatal shark attack on the southside of the rock wall. "We were going to get in, we're not going to now for sure. Mr Gonsal said there had been a lot of fishing boats out on the water and there was "a fair bit of action out there in terms of fish today". "It took a while to get all the people out of the water." |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7th, 2020 at 11:52am Very sad. Channel 7 "News" will be wetting themselves, though. The only thing they like better than a shark attack story is a 'footballer behaves badly' story. Or maybe ever 'car drives through fence' story. But yes, very sad for that victim and his/her family. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jun 7th, 2020 at 12:05pm
Another great Marketing effort by the notorious Australian Tourism Board. When people get killed by Crocodiles, Sharks, Snakes, Spiders and Box Jellyfish - the Tourism into Australia spikes considerably. Overseas Tourists love that 'Dangerous Australian Adventure' here in the most virulent region of the world. Deadly and Wild Australia is a thrill-deal for the overseas Tourists.
We need to feed the Crocs and Sharks more Canoeists and Surfers. Let Chinese Tourists wander freely into the bush stealing native plants with the Snakes and Spiders. Let em step on Stone Fish and swim with Sting-Rays. This is a great day for Australian Tourism! 8-) :D |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gordon on Jun 7th, 2020 at 12:08pm
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jun 7th, 2020 at 12:12pm
Maybe let the illegal immigrants land ashore by boats. Make a great front page "Only two Boat People left... a total of 25 illegal immigrants died trying to find their way through the Australian bush as Speartooth Glyphis Sharks and Crocodiles, Snakes and Spiders anything else that has a bite did so."
Australian Tourism would BOOM! :D |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by The_Barnacle on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:12pm freediver wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 11:47am:
providing a news report of someone being killed by a shark isn't evidence that there are more sharks around |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by The_Barnacle on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:13pm Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 12:05pm:
Do you have any evidence of this? Or is this just another of your brain farts? |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:18pm The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:12pm:
You obviously don't know Sharks Barnacle. You wouldn't even notice one at a Pool table. Wanna come Diving? I'll show you the evidence if you like? Or are you just going to sit on your rock? ;) |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by The_Barnacle on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:21pm Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:18pm:
Yes I've been diving before But that still isn't evidence that there are more sharks around |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:30pm The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:21pm:
Due to Shark Finning. The Global Evidence is that there is 'less'> sharks. Around Australia's more Protected Waters - there is an increase in Shark numbers. As there is also in other sea and ocean bearing nations that implement Sanctuary Zones and Protected Zones in their waters. Due to Humanity's devouring of many 'chains' in the food chains. There will be niche's made and that means new species will emerge to fill them. Things become accelerated. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by The_Barnacle on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:40pm Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:30pm:
No Jasin, that's not how it works. You are just making crap up again and pretending they are facts. The shark is an apex predator, if there is less food for the sharks to eat, there will be fewer sharks Once again you haven't provided any evidence that there are more sharks around |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:43pm
Great White Shark numbers have been decimated around South African waters.
It's the Orca predating on them. Food is indeed hard to find in the Big Blue. The Orca know no 'boundaries' in the water when it comes to having to adapt. The violence of the deep is far more than what happens on land, besides what comes from one of their species like Man. Even Whale Sharks are pushing the envelope. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jun 7th, 2020 at 2:32pm The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:12pm:
It's evidence. The last fish I speared, a large barracuda, go swallowed whole by a big tiger shark. I managed to get it back out, but it was in pretty poor shape. At least the last two times I went spearfishing I left a spot because of sharks. There are also more crocs. We even have croc warning signs on the Mary River, abut 3 hours north of Brisbane. One stop away from the sunshine coast. A guy I know just moved to the area from Darwin. Was not happy coming all that way south and still can't swim at the nearest spot because of crocs. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by greggerypeccary on Jun 7th, 2020 at 4:04pm Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 12:12pm:
Illegal immigrants come to Australia by plane. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Jun 7th, 2020 at 8:04pm
As an English visitor lady said once:- "When they talk about sharks, I think of fish and chips."
Got two Great Whites, about half a dozen Grey Nurses, and maybe a Tiger or two here... regulars.... nobody's been bitten yet... yet.. but the Great Whites were about ten feet from some surfers a week or so ago... spotted on a drone and water cleared... |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by J.D. on Jun 8th, 2020 at 4:56pm
I don't know if there are any more sharks but there sure is a lot more shark bait these days.
CULL THEM |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 9th, 2020 at 9:44am
I've been saying for a while now there are more sharks around.
By around do you mean more sharks in general, or because of poor fish stocks for them offshore, more sharks coming onshore. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jun 9th, 2020 at 10:09am The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:12pm:
The coastal region from Kingscliffe, Ballina & Byron have been the hotspot for shark attacks recently. So I believe there is an increased number of sharks to increase the number of attacks. The Great Whites follow the Humpback whale migrations ...... & we know they have increased in numbers in the last 20 years. Why wouldn't it follow that there would then be an increase in predator numbers? Orcas have been as far north as Hervey Bay. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jun 9th, 2020 at 10:10am Johnnie wrote on Jun 8th, 2020 at 4:56pm:
;D Smorgas....boards? |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 9th, 2020 at 10:16am Gnads wrote on Jun 9th, 2020 at 10:09am:
More sharks close to the beaches, not more sharks overall. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jun 9th, 2020 at 6:40pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 9th, 2020 at 9:44am:
More sharks within a few kilometres of the coast. I expect that is where most of them have always been. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jun 9th, 2020 at 7:12pm
Raratonga and other Island Nations that have made their surrounding waters more 'Sanctuary' and 'Zones' have seen an increase in Shark numbers and the Stats with heavily 'shark finned' areas have been decimated. Sharks comes to these areas true - because of the greater abundance in food from these Zones. Most Sharks are NOT deepwater (unlike the Oceanic White-Tip or 'Sailor's Shark'). So naturally 'Coastal' stretches attract Sharks.
There has been an increase in Grey Nurse Sharks (also preyed on by Great Whites) thanks to Spear-Fishing restrictions. As have many other species like the Blue Devil Fish. There is less and less 'food' out there in the Chain of Life. Suddenly there are hardly any Great Whites around South Africa because the Orca have preyed on them over the last decade. Orca get shot near Mexico because the Fishermen see the Orca as a 'competitor'. There is an increase in Sharks due to many factors now. Probably still not as numerous before Man learned how to obliterate species and their numbers over the recent centuries. But with more and more people going into the water in various ways and methods - contact between Shark and Human will become more and more. How it pans out is up to us. ...snorkling with just a hand-spear, to which I never use (its just an added 'comfort') at a popular spot where 'holidayers' from affair come to frolic and try their luck at spearfishing. Like bubbles churning from all the Holiday Spearos pumping in about 50 in a day (just a long weekend squeeze) at one spot. Such activity had summoned a large female Great White to come 'in'. She times it well. Seems to know when the Public Holidays are around. The hairs on the back of my neck prickle, I know I'm being watched. The fish and the sounds underwater suddenly become subdued and I move to exit the water 40m away. The following weekend at the same spot, my mate is dragged 20m underwater before he managed to unclip his fish line (x5 fish), by the Great White. He took it like Chuck Norris in his stride. Stewart Island, NZ. I had asked one of the locals about scuba diving solo around here as it looked great. The answer was "sure" - many do and the Great Whites are rarely seen or bother. The Orca are the 'Apex' Predator in NZ waters and the GW's are more 'polite'. But at that time I was there, there were Cage Diving for 'Research' underway off the Bluff area across the strait. That 'research' ultimately showed it's true nature as Great White Sharks were being 'chummed' and lured by food for CAGE TOURISM. Within just 8 years - Great White activity increases in the 'violent' nature the Great Whites had changed in their behaviour and numbers because they now associated Humans with FOOD. A new behaviour of ramming 'tinnies' and other boats for food and creating an environment that no Scuba Diver would now do alone. The increase of Food (chum) given to the Sharks have given them the right environment to breed more, just like Kangaroos do. There is an increase in Sharks around Australian Coastal waters. Yes, some come from other 'stressful' parts of the world, where natural food and numbers for breeding are 'scarce'. Fish can 'hear' a Bommie 26km away. I'm pretty sure Sharks can 'know about' this big continent's offerings. The factor is. Are we going to enter their world sensibly? Or are we gonna 'ask for it' when they feel they should bite? Shelly Beach, Port Lincoln - 50m out. I have two very large Kingfish hug me like baitfish do when Kingfish are after them. So what's hunting these big 80kg Kingfish? ...I got out pretty quick. ;) My arse went from 50c to 5c. :P |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Bojack Horseman on Jun 9th, 2020 at 7:40pm freediver wrote on Jun 9th, 2020 at 6:40pm:
Oh well, don't want top get eaten by sharks don't go in the water. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jun 10th, 2020 at 7:45am Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 9th, 2020 at 10:16am:
So only the prey animals increase in numbers not the hunters? Goes against all the documentary evidence I've ever seen that shows that when conditions are good & prey animals flourish the amount of hunters increase proportionally. Predators have to breed to replace the aged & dying as well. Checks & balances. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jun 10th, 2020 at 7:57am Jasin wrote on Jun 9th, 2020 at 7:12pm:
That's what I've said from day dot when they started the heavy chumming for Great White research in Sth Aust. e.g. shark attack victim Rodney Foxes involvement. That method shouldn't be used for shark viewing tourism...... as it shouldn't be used for the Crocodile tourism where they feed them to get them to jump up out of the water in the wild in certain rivers in the Nthn Territory & other locations. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 11th, 2020 at 5:10pm
Two more shark attacks and a drowned spearo. I think the more sharks thing is real now.
Different news outlets initially said the Indian Head victim was either spearfishing or scuba diving. They seem to have changed it to spearfishing. Either way, it's a bad idea up there. Even the surfers don't get in. Teen killed in shark attack at Wilsons Headland north of Coffs Harbour, Wooli Beach closed https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-11/teenager-killed-in-shark-attack-in-coffs-harbour/12446198?fbclid=IwAR1mizNoirJv50C4VyzLFhXCVFjB4J23EMD-ISN9TzBgbAxkSWh49qp9DjA Posted 1 hour ago, updated 15 minutes ago A teenage boy is dead after being bitten by a shark while surfing off of NSW's mid-north coast. Man killed in shark attack off Fraser Island, Queensland police confirm https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-04/man-killed-in-shark-attack-off-fraser-island/12423134 Published: 04/07/2020 Updated: 6 July 2020 Queensland Police have confirmed a man has been killed in a shark attack off Fraser Island, off the coast from Hervey Bay. Police say the 36-year-old Sunshine Coast man was spearfishing in the waters near Indian Head when he was attacked. https://7news.com.au/news/qld/scuba-diver-attacked-by-shark-on-fraser-island-c-1144787 Spearfisher dies in Fraser Island shark attack It comes after a 23-year-old Queensland Parks and Wildlife ranger was killed in a shark attack in the same area in April. What caused Alex 'Chumpy' Pullin to drown? https://7news.com.au/sport/olympics/what-caused-alex-chumpy-pullin-to-drown-c-1155679 Updated: 9 July 2020 World champion snowboarder Alex ‘Chumpy’ Pullin drowned while spearfishing on Wednesday and one possible cause of his death is a shallow water blackout. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jul 11th, 2020 at 5:53pm Prime Minister for Canyons wrote on Jun 9th, 2020 at 10:16am:
Links? Don't give me that bs .... when a predators prey increases in numbers .... so do the predators. You must live under a rock. Humpback whales have increased greatly in numbers since the international whaling ban & Australias own bans & protections since 1986 .... it's only commonsense that that shark numbers, especially Great Whites would increase proportionately. Further to that another predator of humpback whales has been found in waters far further north than ever before ... following the whale migration ... Orcas/Killer whales.(As far north as Hervey Bay) Get out of your bs cocoon & try telling the truth for once. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jul 11th, 2020 at 5:55pm freediver wrote on Jul 11th, 2020 at 5:10pm:
Indian Head has be well known locally as a haven for big sharks for decades. ::) People who dive there are idiots. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 12th, 2020 at 2:19am
The Great Whites following the whales is interesting... here we have a massive shallow 'inlet' to the Great Lakes, and the whales tend to be way out... that massive sand bank complex also ruins the surf for boardriders (as far as I'm concerned - too much shore break and not much else). I've found better surfing waves at Catherine Hill Bay south of Swansea.... farken cold in winter without a 'dry' suit (wetsuit).
Further north where the headlands jut out into the sea is far more advantageous for whale watching and board riding, and also far more dangerous for shark attacks. Notice how the surfing Meccas are also shark attack Meccas? Perhaps oddly, we've had a pair of Great Whites here for some time... just sizing up the boardriders... one of whom was a schoolteacher just across the road... but I think they've moved on with the whales now... haven't seen them... don't want to unless on the breakwater..... Bring Back the Biff! Put the shark on the table!! |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Pedro Curevo on Jul 12th, 2020 at 5:59am
More people drown from waves than being chomped by a shark and considering that humans and over fishing have wiped out 90% of the marine top predators a few human fatalities is not a bad ratio.
Also on record there has been no shark fatalities at patrolled beaches in recent times. With surfing it is time of day that has higher risk such as dawn or dusk, and when there is less light with cloud cover as was the case with the young bloke attacked at Wilsons Headland. From my own experience with snorkelling..(no longer spear fish, rather observe sea life, as fish seem to know that a diver hasn't a spear gun or hand spear), or surfing in low light levels is when it feels ominously shark presence. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 12th, 2020 at 9:38am Quote:
I don't think there has ever been any kind of fatality between the flags. The lifesafers always drag them up the beach either side of the flags, just in case. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by The_Barnacle on Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:34am Pedro Curevo wrote on Jul 12th, 2020 at 5:59am:
Although infrequent, shark attacks attract a high level of public and media interest, and often have serious consequences for those attacked. Data from the Australian Shark Attack File were examined to determine trends in unprovoked shark attacks since 1900, particularly over the past two decades. The way people use the ocean has changed over time. The rise in Australian shark attacks, from an average of 6.5 incidents per year in 1990–2000, to 15 incidents per year over the past decade, coincides with an increasing human population, more people visiting beaches, a rise in the popularity of water-based fitness and recreational activities and people accessing previously isolated coastal areas. There is no evidence of increasing shark numbers that would influence the rise of attacks in Australian waters. The risk of a fatality from shark attack in Australia remains low, with an average of 1.1 fatalities year–1 over the past 20 years. The increase in shark attacks over the past two decades is consistent with international statistics of shark attacks increasing annually because of the greater numbers of people in the water. https://www.publish.csiro.au/mf/fulltext/MF10181 |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:41am
So in 2011 there was no evidence of an increase in shark numbers in 2020? I guess I should start burleying up then...
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by The_Barnacle on Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:58am freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:41am:
What would cause shark numbers to suddenly increase after 2011 when there was no evidence of increasing numbers before 2011? |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Valkie on Jul 12th, 2020 at 12:06pm
If you go into the swamp, you get mozzie.
If you go into the sea, there are other nasty bities. If you go into Granville, the raving lunatic terrorists will get you. If you go into Melbourne, you re an idiot. The sea is the sharks domain, leave them alone Stats prove, if you don't want to be eaten by a shark. Don't swim early in the morning or after dusk. This is when most surfers tend to surf. If you really really don't want to be eaten by a shark, Only swim in fresh water. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 12th, 2020 at 12:34pm The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:58am:
I don't think 9 years is sudden. There are plenty of explanations. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 13th, 2020 at 6:03am freediver wrote on Jul 12th, 2020 at 12:34pm:
The Silent Invasion of Basa and the restrictions on hunting of the snark have lead to a severe shortage of shark steaks in fish shops.... instead of us eating them they're eating us... |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jul 13th, 2020 at 8:14am The_Barnacle wrote on Jul 12th, 2020 at 11:58am:
You just keep your head buried in your backside the increase hasn't been sudden ... humpback whales have increased in numbers - predators increase in numbers ::) Shark attacks therefore increase because of the increased chance of interactions with humans why don't you go & ask a few pro-fisherman regarding shark numbers that they see? This from 2015. https://www.goldcoastbulletin.com.au/lifestyle/beaches-and-fishing/pro-fishermen-traditional-owners-call-for-shark-culling-in-gold-coast-canals-to-prevent-human-deaths/news-story/6599317993853492ef8ae1362c9d7500 https://www.finder.com.au/australias-most-dangerous-beaches-for-shark-attacks |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jul 13th, 2020 at 8:59am
They learned in North America that National Parks need Wolves. Too much Reindeer and not enough Wolves ruins a National Park in many ways.
Sharks 'Globally' have been decimated (eg: Shark Finning, etc). But there are areas where Shark populations have recouperated - like Australia. Sharks are needed to keep the Aquatic environment in good health. Great Whites have been filmed congregating off rocky 'points' either side of a beach where heaps of Surfers congregate also. The Sharks get a 'oxygen high' from all the white-wash off the points and don't bother the Surfers (South Africa)... mostly. Great Whites are also hitting Surfers in 'twos' now and upon two occassions this has been filmed. As I said, Orca are now adapting to the new global conditions of less 'usual' prey and are now decimating GW's around South Africa (which also has a river filled with big Bull Sharks, who never touch swimmers along the river, because there is a 'symbiotic relationship' with the Fisherman that they get their 'cut'.) - in the last 10 years. Orca are also moving into the Great Australian Bight and increasing their toll on the 'former' Apex GW's there. Also, they think that the GW's in South Africa are also cannibalising each other out of hunger. The adult females hitting the adolescents who enter their territory. Bronzies in Jervis Bay recognise 'Spearos' and often hound the spearos off their fish (as do Wobbys). But swimmers, divers and snorklers are sussed out, not harrassed. The smell of dead fish is the obvious decision maker for the Sharks. Surfing or diving in poor viz conditions is not a wise choice. Animals (as seen in Singapore) are adapting to Human existence. So yes, Shark Numbers are increasing in our waters, but not Globally. Yes - more people are entering the water (especially whities, because this land is Aboriginal land ;) :D) - so naturally the stats will rise. I dive often solo. Never really been bothered by Sharks to any great extent. They come in, take a look and move on. I have a big pair of eyes on the back on my scuba tank. I know of one diver who always took an umbrella with him with big eyes velcroed on it. When sharks got too close, he would open it up and off they would go quickly. Surprise is the shark's method (unless Reef shark, then its 'numbers'). There are many offers of deterrents against sharks. Killing (spear, powerhead) is the primitive method. But things like Shark Shields, Cages - seem a more 'passive' method. I am working on another method (but more about that later) - but without chumming to bring the sharks in (which defeats the purpose), I haven't had a direct opportunity yet to test it. It is a 'passive' method. There is the Krait Wetsuits and Boards which are out and are said to work. Just killing Sharks or staying out of the water are dead end options. Humanity has the need to live underwater, but we need to do it the proper way. WE NEED TO EVOLVE. Education is the key. Like a female naturalist photographer in Africa who discovered (and it has been filmed) that a charging Lion (male in the clip) will stop metres from her (and her scared shaking Bantu ranger with a gun) if she holds her gaze defiantly with the lion and doesn't move an inch. The Lion moved away. Do that to a male Silverback Gorilla and he'll rip your head from your shoulders. The same is with Sharks. Know your species and their habits. The 'educated' thing to do when canoeing/kayaking Croc infested Rivers is not to be the last in the pack because a Croc can leap up and take you out of your kayak from behind. Swimming at dawn/dusk is a no go (poor light conditions) and especially falling behind in the swimmers pack (like what happened at Tathra) is also not wise. Sharks are there to clean up the sick, old and injured. There is so much to learn from Sharks. God knows I've bitten a few over-achievers in my time, from 'down under' ;) |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jul 13th, 2020 at 9:35am Jasin wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 8:59am:
Predation on their own has always been a thing .. GWs are no exception. Whilst there is a lot of reasoned thought in your post ... you have to go & farque it up with bs about the number of whiteys in Aboriginal lands waters ::) ... we have had a marked increase in the number of tinted race migrants in the last 10 to 15 years or more ....obviously they & Aboriginals don't swim? ::) Quote:
Famous last words? ;D |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Jul 13th, 2020 at 9:41am
Of course, I say it in 'jest' about Aboriginals owning the land. It's eventually a 'shared' experience, like the English language (although some Whities think they have 'entitlement' over that too). But the world has a while to go before all is well and ordered. Yellows think they own 'cities' like citi-zens.
My last word would be "Ouch" I'm sure. ;) :D I usually take my reg out and drone out a 'growl' if I see a shark get too curious. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 13th, 2020 at 12:45pm Jasin wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 9:41am:
Ah - so you DID smile when you said that.... they can have their 'special relationship to the lend' as long as they STFU about it for a change.... I think we've all heard enough of this nonsense fueled by the likes of Piltdown Pascoe... You don't like the White Man's Way? Then accept no part of it including your massive football contract and everything else, go your own way, and if there's a clash of civilisations and you lose - blame yourself. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 13th, 2020 at 11:30pm
Wouldn't be caught dead in Kingscliff...
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2020 at 5:56pm
It's a nice place. Good rock hopping spot. And good for a surf. I got chased out of the water by a small great white one time.
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by J.D. on Jul 14th, 2020 at 7:15pm
another SHARK!!! attack today, Mick Fanning would have just given it a backhander and catch the next wave in.
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 14th, 2020 at 7:55pm
Must have been on the good painkillers already...
Woman injured in suspected shark attack near Fitzroy Island off Cairns airlifted to hospital https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-14/woman-shark-attack-fitzroy-island-off-cairns-qld/12453730 A woman believed to have been bitten by a shark off Fitzroy Island in Far North Queensland had been relaxing on a day off from "doing a shark documentary". She suffered injuries to her lower left leg and has been airlifted to Cairns Hospital, where paramedics said she was in a stable condition. As she was wheeled past reporters, the woman yelled: "I still love sharks! Sharks are beautiful." |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Jul 15th, 2020 at 8:13am Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Jul 13th, 2020 at 11:30pm:
Well this one was a tad closer to Coffs coastaly but as the crow flies closer to Grafton. but you'd know that. ;) |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Jul 15th, 2020 at 12:19pm Gnads wrote on Jul 15th, 2020 at 8:13am:
Mooni? Sad all round.... bastard of a thing to happen to anyone, but it does. For that matter I wouldn't be caught dead in Byron Bay that haven for poseurs and low-lifes who flock to the banner of anything built on BS and sand... should've been made a national park and handed to the Abos... they've got Crowdy Bay and now you can park a yacht there and nobody collects mooring fees or anything... |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 19th, 2020 at 5:00pm
sharknado:
Tasmania shark attack: boy survives being 'grabbed' by a shark from a fishing boat https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/17/tasmania-shark-attack-boy-survives-being-grabbed-by-a-shark-from-a-fishing-boat A boy who was grabbed by a shark from a boat off Tasmania’s north-west coast has suffered arm, head and chest injuries. The 10-year-old was taken to hospital on Friday afternoon following the attack near Stanley. “The boy ... was aboard a six-metre vessel on a fishing expedition about 5km from shore with his father and two other men when a shark grabbed him from the boat,” Ambulance Tasmania said in a statement. The boy’s father jumped into the water and the shark swam away, the statement said. The boy was wearing a life jacket at the time of the attack. He suffered cuts and is reported to be in a stable condition. A few hours before the attack police had issued a shark warning for the area. “Please be advised there has been a large shark sighted in the Stanley area,” they warned. “If swimming or undertaking fishing and other marine activities please take necessary precautions.” According to the Australian Shark Attack File, maintained by the Taronga Conservation Society, the last injury from a shark bite in Tasmania was in 2012. Friday’s incident is the latest in a string of shark attacks in Australian waters. A shark documentary-maker on Tuesday was mauled by a shark while swimming at a resort island during a day off in far north Queensland. The 29-year-old woman was bitten on the left leg at Fitzroy Island near Cairns. “I still love sharks, sharks are beautiful,” the woman told reporters as she was wheeled into Cairns hospital in a stable condition. She suffered a possible fracture of the left ankle and some lacerations, paramedics said. On Saturday, a teenager died while surfing at Wilsons Headland at Wooli Beach, off northern NSW, which was Australia’s fifth fatal shark attack this year. The previous weekend, a 36-year-old Sunshine Coast man died after being mauled while spearfishing off Queensland’s Fraser Island. Last month, the Gold Coast surfer Rob Pedretti, 60, died after he was attacked at Salt Beach at South Kingscliff in northern NSW. A shark also killed the 23-year-old Queensland wildlife ranger Zachary Robba in April off North West Island in the southern Great Barrier Reef. Experienced diver Gary Johnson, 57, was killed by a shark near Cull Island in Esperance on Western Australia’s south coast in January. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Jul 19th, 2020 at 5:11pm
'Unexplainable' death shocks local community
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-06/esperance-shark-attack-victim-identified-as-local-gary-johnson/11843148 6 JanJanuary 2020 A woman who watched on as her husband was fatally attacked by a shark while the couple dived together off WA's south coast said he was at home in the ocean and understood the risks. The attack happened moments after the couple entered the water on a scuba diving outing near Cull Island off the Esperance coast. Police said Ms Milligan was next to her husband in the water when the attack happened. A number of items including a scuba tank have been retrieved from the water by police, but they are yet to locate Mr Johnson's body. Apparently the December attack was a lemon shark, not a shovel nose. Queensland parks and wildlife officer dies after being bitten by a shark at Great Barrier Reef https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/apr/07/man-dies-after-being-bitten-by-a-shark-near-great-barrier-reef This article is more than 3 months old A shark has killed a Queensland parks and wildlife officer during a work trip at the southern end of the Great Barrier Reef. The premier, Annastacia Palaszczuk, has paid tribute to the 23-year-old, who died in hospital on Monday night a few hours after he was mauled near North West Island. In early January a nine-year-old girl was attacked by a shark off the same island. She suffered a bite wound to the back of her leg and puncture wounds to her foot. A lemon shark was suspected of that attack. And in late December a shovelnose shark bit a man in shallow waters at North West Island. He suffered minor injuries to his right hand and leg. There have been a series of shark attacks on the Great Barrier Reef over the past 18 months. Last October two British backpackers were attacked while snorkelling at Hook Island in the Whitsunday Islands. One of the men lost his foot. In March last year a 25-year-old man suffered serious thigh injuries when a shark attacked him at Hardy Reef, near Hamilton Island, also in the Whitsundays chain. In November 2018 a Victorian doctor, Daniel Christidis, 33, was killed at Cid Harbour at Whitsunday Island. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Oct 10th, 2020 at 7:24pm
Hope lost for finding shark attack victim Andrew Sharpe alive off Esperance on Western Australia's south coast
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-10/search-for-shark-attack-victim-resumes-esperance-kelp-beds-wa/12750054 WA police say they have lost all hope of finding much-loved surfer Andrew Sharpe alive after he was attacked by a shark on Friday morning at a surf break near Esperance on Western Australia's south coast. After a second day of searching, authorities have recovered two pieces of wetsuit, believed to be that of Mr Sharpe's, in the ocean near where he was surfing, but police said it would have to be tested for DNA. On Friday, a piece of his surfboard was also washed ashore with "obvious signs of shark attack". In 2014, 23-year-old surfer Sean Pollard was attacked by a shark at the beach, losing his arm and other hand. Three years later, 17-year-old Laeticia Brouwer died after being bitten by a white shark in the same area. https://www.9news.com.au/national/shark-attack-north-beach-perth-teen-pulled-under-reveals-fear-he-would-die/ed13b24c-5585-4eb0-b6c8-fbf6ce36cd86 9:48pm Oct 5, 2020 A teenage boy says he was sure he was going to die in an encounter with a shark while surfing on a northern Perth beach. https://www.9news.com.au/national/gold-coast-shark-attack-coolangatta-hero-first-responders-nick-slater-death-great-white-mauling-queensland-news/364f40ec-38e2-4e00-8728-af65c65be835 A teenage schoolboy, a tradesman and an occupational therapist have been revealed as the heroic first responders who tried to save the life of a Gold Coast real estate agent who had been mauled by a shark. Nick Slater, 46, had been surfing off Greenmount Beach in Coolangatta last week when he was attacked by a great white. https://www.9news.com.au/national/shark-attacks-australia-natural-cause-factors-water-temperatures-weather-research-science/13671606-a464-40d1-ae82-c2991cb81c86 Sep 10, 2020 A change in water temperatures may be behind the highest number of fatal shark attacks Australia has seen in years, marine researchers said. Six people have so far been killed by sharks this year across the country. The last time the number of fatalities were close to that number was in 2014. In total, 19 shark-related incidents have already been recorded this year compared to 23 for the entirety of 2019. Professor Robert Harcourt from Macquarie University's Marine Research Centre told 9News.com.au the uptick in fatal attacks this year is a sign more sharks are swimming closer to shore, suggesting natural currents may have shifted ocean temperatures. "When there's a lower sea surface temperature — when the water's basically cooler compared to surrounding areas — you tend to get more white sharks closer to shore because they're feeding on the animals in the water like salmon and that's when we tend to get a spike in humans getting bitten as well," Professor Harcourt said. "When we get a year like this, when we seem to be getting a spate of shark incidents, it tends to suggest that the cold waters are constrained closer to shore, so it just means that everything is a little bit closer." "We're not a natural prey of any marine critter but if they're coming in to hunt salmon, and now is peak salmon period for Australian salmon… then you get sharks coming into feed upon them and the human leg is about the same size as a nice tasty salmon. Early analysis of a tooth lodged in Mr Slater's surfboard has led Queensland Fisheries department to believe the shark was a 3.5-metre great white. Early analysis of a tooth lodged in Mr Slater's surfboard has led Queensland Fisheries department to believe the shark was a 3.5-metre great white. A tiger shark was also caught in nets off the Gold Coast, but there is no proof it was responsible for the fatal attack. The incident also followed two fatal attacks in NSW earlier this year, two other deaths in Queensland and one in Western Australia. Perth-based shark biologist Amanda Elizabeth told 9News.com.au there are variables linked to the severity of shark attack-related deaths in a calendar year, such as emergency response times. However, said there are natural factors that also contribute to incident numbers. "Things like rainfall have an effect... shark attacks tend to peak about high rainfall, about 100mm," she said. "You get these upwellings and the sharks are moving to inshore, where it's a bit cooler. "With great whites, even though there's an increase in the warmer temperatures because there's more people there, more of the great white attacks actually happen where the water is cooler. "There's a lot of attacks by great whites that are done in that juvenile, sub-adult stage and that's because they're transitioning from a fish diet to a mammalian diet, and they're testing what they can and can't eat. "It's not uncommon for them to take a bite (to) see what they're supposed to be eating." Across Australia, shark attack prevention measures currently include a range of measures such as nets, drum lines and overhead drone surveillance. Professor Harcourt has said that Australian researchers are also actively working to develop scientific models that could suggest where danger zones may pop up at certain times of the year. "What we are trying to do is actually build models that allow us to make better predictions for when people are likely to get bitten," he said. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Oct 10th, 2020 at 7:28pm
https://www.9news.com.au/national/shark-attacks-australia-natural-cause-factors-water-temperatures-weather-research-science/13671606-a464-40d1-ae82-c2991cb81c86
Sep 10, 2020 Shark-related incidents around Australia in 2020 According to the Taronga Conservation Society's Australian Shark Attack File, these are all of the shark-related incident bites that have been recorded so far this year. January, non-fatal at Gallows Beach in Coffs Harbour, NSW January, fatal at Gulli Island in Esperance, WA January, non-fatal at North West Island in Gladstone, Queensland January, non-fatal at Windang Beach in Wollongong, NSW January, non-fatal at Geordie Bay on Rottnest Island, WA April, non-fatal at Surf Beach in Kiama, NSW April, fatal at North West Island in Gladstone, Queensland April, non-fatal at Steps Surf Break, Lighthouse Bay in Exmouth, WA April, non-fatal at Killick Creek in Crescent Head, NSW May, non-fatal at Bells Beach in Victoria June, non-fatal at Tantabiddi Beach in Ningaloo, WA June, fatal at Casuarina Beach in Kingscliff, NSW July, fatal on Fraser Island on the Sunshine Coast, Queensland July, fatal at Wooli Beach on Wilsons Headland on the NSW Mid North Coast July, non-fatal on Fitzroy Island in Cairns, Queensland July, non-fatal in Stanley, on the Tasmanian North West Coast August, non-fatal at Shelly Beach in Port Macquarie, NSW September, fatal at Greenmount Beach in Coolangatta, Queensland |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by JaSin. on Oct 10th, 2020 at 7:32pm The_Barnacle wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 1:13pm:
No. It was reported on one of those morning news breakfast shows many years ago and gave an example of the recent spike in Crocodile attacks up north and how Tourism up north also spiked not long after with a lot from overseas. It was many Crocodile Park Shows that sprang up from this spike. My brain has never farted. Didn't know yours could for you to know such a thing exists. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 11th, 2020 at 12:00am
Time to put the shark back on the table as 'fish and chips'.... dash of lemon and real salt, thanks...
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Gnads on Oct 11th, 2020 at 6:04am freediver wrote on Jul 19th, 2020 at 5:11pm:
Yes ... Shovel Noses are "Rays" with the same type of downward facing mouth used by bottom feeders. They don't attack people. Calling them "sharks" is a misnomer. |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Oct 11th, 2020 at 8:14am
It's a happy shark.
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Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by freediver on Oct 25th, 2020 at 6:19pm
With all the wet weather, I'm predicting a sharknado soon.
Man in critical condition after shark attack off Townsville https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-25/man-critical-condition-shark-attack-off-townsville/12811430 A 59-year-old man is undergoing surgery at Townsville University Hospital after being attacked by a shark off the North Queensland coast this afternoon. The South Mission Beach man was spearfishing at Britomart Reef, about 45 minutes east of Hinchinbrook, when he was bitten on the upper thigh just after midday. A distress beacon alerted paramedics, who met the man at Dungeness boat ramp near Lucinda. QAS senior operations supervisor Ray Hardy said: "On arrival, he didn't have a pulse, so I would say that's not a good place to be in." It took emergency crews more than hour to stabilise the man, who was suffering from catastrophic bleeding, before he was airlifted to Townsville University Hospital. Critical care doctor David Humphreys said the man suffered a significant shark bite to his upper thigh and pelvic region. "There was a makeshift tourniquet placed by, I believe, one of the other members of the vessel," Dr Humphreys said. "Our concern was catastrophic bleeding which we did our best to arrest, get control of. "He remained in a critical condition after our interventions and he's now undergoing emergency surgery here in the hospital." Dr Humphreys said it was his first time treating a shark attack victim. "This is sort of the type of work that we do, nevertheless it still has an emotional impact on the crew … and obviously particularly for the bystanders, other emergency services and his friends and family," he said. "He sustained catastrophic injuries from this so obviously confronting for everyone involved." Queensland Police said the man had been out fishing with a local group. Emergency search for woman swept off rocks at Injidup Beach in Western Australia https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-25/emergency-search-for-missing-woman-swept-off-rocks-in-wa/12811718 |
Title: Re: Surfer dies in shark attack in Kingscliff Post by Jest on Oct 25th, 2020 at 9:21pm Jasin wrote on Jun 7th, 2020 at 12:05pm:
You do know that to be a sucessful contrarian its not just a matter of thinking the opposite of what good sense and everyone else says, you also have to be right. Im just thinking here, even assuming that tourists do in fact flock to places where their chances of getting eaten by sharks are the highest, is Tourism Australia flogging a dead horse trying to get them here during corona virus. Just a thought :D :D :D. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by JaSin. on Oct 25th, 2020 at 9:25pm
Look. I'm just stating what I saw on a morning program show in regards to this subject and the fact is that Australian Tourism experiences a spike from overseas wanting to go to the 'Wild Oz Experience' of dangerous animals in conjunction with a spat of killings from Crocs, Sharks and other biteys. Aussie Safari, etc. Having worked in the Back Packer Industry, I can agree with this in seeing and hearing what clicks for Back Packers here in Australia besides booze, raves and sex.
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by freediver on Oct 25th, 2020 at 9:34pm
We provide a safe place for spoilt Eurobrats to have gentle brush with death.
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by JaSin. on Oct 25th, 2020 at 9:37pm
Taking a naked run through Everleigh St Redfern is high on the Back Packer Oz Safari list.
It's like Running of the Bulls they tell me. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Ye Grappler on Oct 26th, 2020 at 1:56pm
21 shark attacks in 2020 - 30 and the sharks get free steak knives...
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by freediver on Nov 6th, 2021 at 3:39pm
Not sure where this is from:
1980 -1999 in Aus Fatalities 15 Non Fatalities 60 2000-2016 in Aus Fatalities 32 Non Fatalities 220 Teenager missing after shark attack at Port Beach in Fremantle https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-06/wa-shark-attack-port-beach-in-fremantle-teenager-missing/100600386 Water police and rescue helicopters are searching for a teenager after a shark attack off Port Beach in Fremantle. It is believed the male teenager was swimming next to a dinghy at the time. Authorities believe he was attacked by two sharks, a great white and a tiger. Swimmers and witnesses at the scene are visibly shocked. At least five Water Police and Sea Rescue boats and two helicopters are scouring the area and an ambulance has been sent to the scene. Witness Alex Dodds, who was at Port Beach this morning, said he was shocked to find out about the incident. "Apparently they're looking for a body, so sounds pretty bad. Hopefully they can find it," he said. "I was coming down for my first swim post-op, six weeks ago. First time back in the ocean after my [shark] attack, so pretty heavy. "I was attacked up in Leeman in June by a big great white, so it's close to home. The attack comes on the anniversary of a shark attack that claimed the life of local swimmer Ken Crew off Cottesloe Beach in 2000. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Gordon on Nov 6th, 2021 at 4:45pm
Went for an early morning SUP today. Coming back from Shark Beach around Shark Point then across to Shark Island, guess what I saw?
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Lisa Jones on Nov 6th, 2021 at 5:04pm
A lot of sharks on OzPol.
And PA. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Bias_2012 on Nov 6th, 2021 at 5:04pm
Shark attack near Perth today
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Gordon on Nov 6th, 2021 at 5:36pm |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:34pm Bias_2012 wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 5:04pm:
A 16 year old taken by two different kinds of shark, so I've heard. Poor bugger :'( Happened at Port Beach, in Fremantle. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:39pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:34pm:
So now they've developed teamwork? |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:42pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:39pm:
Dunno. That's just what I've been told by someone who was on-site. Could be bullshit; we'll have to wait and see. So sad to see a kid die like that, just having fun on a Saturday morning. Unfortunately though, that's the risk you take when you enter their territory. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:04pm greggerypeccary wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 6:42pm:
My bad. Lots of bad information coming out. The 16 year old was the witness, apparently. The victim is a 57 year old man. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:08pm
If there are "lots of sharks around" its either a good sign of a healthy environment or the oceans are dying and the predators are taking over, time to hang up the snorkel.
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by greggerypeccary on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:11pm Johnnie wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 7:08pm:
Yes. It's their territory. Any death as a result of an attack is extremely sad. However, that's the chance you take. Once sharks start walking onto land and killing people in their homes, I might start listening to the culling argument. Until then, just stay out of the water. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by freediver on Nov 7th, 2021 at 9:59am freediver wrote on Nov 6th, 2021 at 3:39pm:
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Gnads on Nov 7th, 2021 at 10:16am freediver wrote on Nov 7th, 2021 at 9:59am:
You being a GW shark puts you in the know ;D |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Ye Grappler on Nov 7th, 2021 at 10:26pm
I had a thought ... offshore here there is a buoy with a light on it - the light flashes on top when a shark is close. Tagged sharks trigger it.
Thought to meself - if most (can't do all) sharks were tagged with a beeper... and some wise person designed and built a waterproof wrist alarm, with solar power to keep it charged.... on the same wavelength ... it would trigger whenever a shark came within a certain distance.... Been mighty close to a shark while surfing meself.... as close as - "how far under my board did that big sucker just go" - it dived and went under me from about ten feet away, FFS... my feet were firmly on the board and I'm glad it was a longboard 9'3" with buoyancy.. nothing if the bastard decided to give it a bite and a nudge ..... a White Tip - not a Great White - but still pretty big and hungry... You've never seen a surfer hit the beach so fast.... walked on water .... |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Mr Bundy on Nov 8th, 2021 at 6:47pm Grappler Truth Teller Feller wrote on Nov 7th, 2021 at 10:26pm:
SHARKS are fierceful animals but if they get in your way just punch them in the head like Mick did. https://youtu.be/M6i0os6u0M0 |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Pedro Curevo on Nov 10th, 2021 at 2:29am
Question has to be asked....what is driving more sharks in closer to shore looking for food...?
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Gnads on Nov 10th, 2021 at 6:27am Johnnie wrote on Nov 8th, 2021 at 6:47pm:
He was just lucky. |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Gnads on Nov 10th, 2021 at 6:28am Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 2:29am:
They’re pharken hungry… yeah? |
Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by rhino on Nov 10th, 2021 at 10:16am Pedro Curevo wrote on Nov 10th, 2021 at 2:29am:
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Title: Re: lots of sharks around Post by Pedro Curevo on Nov 10th, 2021 at 5:57pm
When you have illegal foreign boats fishing in Australian Marine Parks protected zones and waters then sharks will get hungry.
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