Jasin wrote...

Racism is ultimately the goal of everyone. We just don't want to admit it. A victim in one part of the world, is a perpetrator in another part of the world.

Then is it really racism or cultural protectionism?

Does one culture have the right to usurp another?
I know it happens, but should it happen?

I confess, that I am on two minds on this one...

A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race.
Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is.
A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives.
That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it.

Power is a Culture that also protects the Race.

All races are equal.
If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'.

...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised.

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 10:18pm:

Jasin wrote...

There's your problem right there

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 4:16pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 10:18pm: Jasin wrote... There's your problem right there

What do you think then?

*chewin popcorn

Jasin wrote on Sep 1^st, 2020 at 11:07pm:

A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race. Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is. A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives. That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it. Power is a Culture that also protects the Race. All races are equal. If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'. ...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised.

Can't help noticing - you have a knife stuck in your head. Must alter your perceptions, no?

Frank wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:20pm:

Jasin wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 11:07pm: A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race. Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is. A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives. That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it. Power is a Culture that also protects the Race. All races are equal. If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'. ...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised. Can't help noticing - you have a knife stuck in your head. Must alter your perceptions, no?

你根本不知道

Jasin wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 6:29pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 3rd, 2020 at 6:20pm: Jasin wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 11:07pm: A woman gives birth to babies. She is the Maker of Race. Is a mother who saves her children over that of anothers... is she a racist? For what Racism stands for in this world atm - yes she is. A man has to give birth to innovation and systems for understanding. He has to build Shelters, to Pyramids, to Space Shuttles, to Nukes and Improbability Drives. That is the 'orthodox' of it, but not the only way of it. Power is a Culture that also protects the Race. All races are equal. If one race numbers only 10,000 globally, while another numbers over a billion. Chances are the rarer race has a billion times more Power in the world. Everything 'equalizes'. ...despite the wars and land grabs, etc. They are but fleeting moments of occupations as this 'Cell' of a world 'divides' - as if just recently fertilised. Can't help noticing - you have a knife stuck in your head. Must alter your perceptions, no? 你根本不知道

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"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically.  Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome.  It is what allows humans to interbreed.  "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc.  Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.   

There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it.  Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others.

Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race".  It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified.  Humanity has been show to be only one species.  Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 1:43pm:

"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically.  Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome.  It is what allows humans to interbreed.  "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc.  Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.    There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it.  Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others. Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race".  It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified.  Humanity has been show to be only one species.  Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect.

I agree BR, but most people use  ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture?

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 4:45pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4th, 2020 at 1:43pm: "Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically.  Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome.  It is what allows humans to interbreed.  "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc.  Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.    There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it.  Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others. Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race".  It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified.  Humanity has been show to be only one species.  Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect. I agree BR, but most people use  ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture?

The terms are not interchangeable.   They can "protect" their own culture as long as it does not involve violence/hatred/etc.   Most White Racists believe that is impossible for some unfathomable reason.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:10pm:

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4th, 2020 at 4:45pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4th, 2020 at 1:43pm: "Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically.  Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome.  It is what allows humans to interbreed.  "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc.  Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.    There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it.  Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others. Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race".  It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified.  Humanity has been show to be only one species.  Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect. I agree BR, but most people use  ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture? The terms are not interchangeable.   They can "protect" their own culture as long as it does not involve violence/hatred/etc.   Most White Racists believe that is impossible for some unfathomable reason.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

By your reasoning, racism does not exist between people of the same race... Anti-culturalism on the other hand....???? :-[ :-[ :-[

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4^th, 2020 at 5:42pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 4th, 2020 at 5:10pm: Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 4th, 2020 at 4:45pm: [quote author=Brian_Ross link=1598962726/8#8 date=1599191023]"Race" is a social construct that has no basis genetically.  Genetically we are all humans, we all draw on the one genome.  It is what allows humans to interbreed.  "Race" as used by Racists relies on superficial aspects of human development to differentiate using skin colour, eye shape, frizziness of hair, etc.  Genetically there is no real difference between Africans, Europeans, Asians, Polynesians and Indigenous Australians.    There is only one "race", the human one and we are all members of it.  Every effort to differentiate between the "races" has occurred in an effort to belittle people and to allow one "race" to lord it over others. Scientifically, Genetics has allowed humanity to recognise that we are all one "race".  It has revolutionised the science of taxonomy and cleared the doubtful aspects of how different species are classified.  Humanity has been show to be only one species.  Racists attempt to claim that different "races" are somehow different species which is clearly incorrect. I agree BR, but most people use  ''Race'' to mean ''Culture''. And surely people have a right to protect their culture? The terms are not interchangeable.   They can "protect" their own culture as long as it does not involve violence/hatred/etc.   Most White Racists believe that is impossible for some unfathomable reason.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

By your reasoning, racism does not exist between people of the same race... Anti-culturalism on the other hand....???? :-[ :-[ :-[/quote]

The first sentence in my introductory post covers your comment and question.   Racism is a social construct.   A social construct can be selfcontradictory.   ::) ::)

War is an act of Racism.
Ask most soldiers and they will say that 'hatred' of the enemy is what softens the blow of killing fellow humans (ourselves) by detachment (no longer human).

Our human lives are not as finely distinguished as Elves, Dwarves and Orcs which are apparently obvious.

Black Bantu and Yellow Han incorporate racism by enforcing their distinctive look and behaviour over other races. The both keep an untainted gene-pool as their foundation. Hell, the Bantu hack into a number of other separate races and are trying to kill Albino's from their inferior influence like a mutation. Maybe one day, as Red-Haired Ranga males are not allowed to be Presidents - they become their dominating  breeding Race.

...the sanctuary of the less successful breeding races would be in the power of Culture. A Blonde Aryan President with the Power of Politics at his hand, in a nation filled mostly with little Red Ranga's with sexually orientated mass production art works for a low income.

In Asia, it would be a Black Mathematician ruling as the Cultural Power over a country side of little yellow sports people (no longer under military/political oppression in polluted conditions).

A Jonah-Lomu big yellow Champion of Sport ruling over a nation of little black farmers.

Historically, Racism is in itself a natural selection. The Neanderthal (Euro-Mid East), Denisovians (Asia) and Ophirians (Africa) existed then were basically dissolved by out-coming Sapien variations of like Khoi-Sans into Africa, the Haplo-Group that extended into early Tibetans, Japanese (Ainu), Adamaman Islanders, Aboriginal Australians and even as far as Northern America (Clovis Indian) to some degree.
These early offspring (the First Born) carried traits that would also be replaced by a new Wave of Sapiens that became the Negroid (Africa, Melanesia), Caucasoid (Europe, Mid-East, India, West Asia), Mongoloid (East and South Asia, the Americas, Polynesia).

Somewhere blurry in between the First Born Sapiens and the Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid emergence... CULTURE began to influence of how successful these Races become. Humanity was creating its own natural selection by all that it created in the form of Culture.
As one of the most basic examples. The success of the Sapiens over Neanderthal was that Sapiens 'culturally' followed the food and water systems, while the Neanderthals stayed isolated in their Cave Zones. Moving around created more interaction amongst Sapien tribes than what the Neanderthal achieved with Cave Dwelling. If a Cave Clan's area created little in food provision due to a bad season - then violent raids would be needed into other Cave Clan territories. It was less so among the Sapiens.

2/3rds of Europe's population is Blue Brunette (light skinned) - Europe is Racially Blue, but Culturally Grey through the Music Industry which is rising in power while things like Religion, Politics, Military fall away and crumble like an Athenian ruin.

     O               O               O               O
Europe         Mid-East     Asia          Namerica
(Blue)            (Brown)    (Yellow)     (Red)



      O               O               O              O
Africa             Sahul        Oceania      Samerica
(Black)           (White)      (Grey)        (Green)

This would be the Racial Map by majorities.
But not the Cultural Map.
x8 Islands of pure race, while the waters of those 'mixed, coloured, mongrel, mutant' races flow in-between like Purple People Eaters.

The Cultural Map would have a Dot of Grey in Europe, Green in Middle-East, Black in Asia, White in Namerica, Yellow in Africa, Red in Sahul, Blue in Oceania and Brown in Samerica.

Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 3^rd, 2020 at 4:42pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 3rd, 2020 at 4:16pm: Nom de Plume wrote on Sep 1st, 2020 at 10:18pm: Jasin wrote... There's your problem right there What do you think then?

Your question is too vague to give a meaningful answer to
One culture usurping another. Is that:

- ISIS killing and destroying anything contradicting it's culture?
- European colonialists converting and conquering the new world?
- Far right populists insisting on assimilation?
- The USA through popular culture gradually changing the world to a homogeneous Hollywood culture? 

Good points there Barny but Hollywood is crumbling.
It's imploding into crime, corruption, rioting, murder and looting.
Also - there are Pro-Trump Blacks on the scene like Public Enemy. Burn Hollywood Burn.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=burn+hollywood+burn+song&&view=detail&mid=53663AA119E51A1C7B1653663AA119E51A1C7B16&&FORM=VRDGAR&ru=%2Fvideos%2Fsearch%3Fq%3Dburn%2Bhollywood%2Bburn%2Bsong%26FORM%3DHDRSC3

And then there's that Ranga Johnny Lydon and his Burn Hollywood Burn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZj9bi7YNmI

Trump rides a Black Horse and it's his Blacks that will rise to Greatness... not Hollywoods and the Media's.

Great topic, and a taboo one that is not discussed enough.

As I travel the world, i have often wondered abut race and our behaviour to differences.

i feel that while scientifically we are all one race, that is we are one species. Evolution due to isolation has formed variations in our appearances, beliefs and culture overtime. Some are due to a small initial population that moved to an area without genetic introductions from outside.

I believe that race and the discriminations of a person based on race is racism. We have evolved to fear people who are different. Remember when we were kids, the kid that looked or acted different to everyone else, didn't fit the mold of your peer group got a hard time. We fear difference and we use difference politically to define a threat. It allows us to identify which pack we belong to and those that are different are not in our pack or tribe.

I have talked to white supremists and at the heart of the hatred is the fear around things like:
- They are taking our jobs
- They cannot speak our language (fear because we don't know what they are saying)
- They don't because one of us (stay in their own culture)
- They are  spreading their religion
- They are taking over
- I dont want my daughter to marry one

I live in the ME were racism is a way of life. They use it here like an underground Caste system.

So they use it to categized people and what work they will do and their place in society.

I think racism is born in fear, is communicated and passed down intergenerationally so the kids will (some will) adopt the attitudes of their parents or peer group is the real root cause of racism. The fear of difference is built into us. It is a survival skill from the past. It will linger on I am afraid.

Intellectually I can rise above it. (Most times) However my instincts always go to alarm when i encounter difference. Particularly a difference that I do not understand or that threatens my status quo in live. I try not to act out on this instinctive reaction, but it is there. The trict is to be self aware.

To answer the OP.

I believe the goals of racism is to protect your own driven by fear of the unknown.

Sometimes it is just to have someone to blame or to hate for your own situation with no goal except to blame someone.

Super Nova wrote on Sep 5^th, 2020 at 11:48pm:

To answer the OP. I believe the goals of racism is to protect your own driven by fear of the unknown.

I tried the "unknown" and it didn't suit me, I didn't fear it. I lived in the western suburbs of Sydney for decades and watched it become more and more multicultural multi-ethnic based over that time. I couldn't get used to it so I moved out of that area to where I could live among my own kind, traditional Aussies, which is what I'd been used to most of my life from the time I was born

It was a simply matter of doing what was best for me. I'm better off for it, more peaceful, much more stable and content

There was a life cycle I went through. I started out in a traditional Aussie town, and ended up back in a traditional Aussie town (a village to be more precise). It was like coming home again, and I wondered why I ever lived in the big city for so long, then again it was my parents who went there when I was a kid, I had no choice but to tag along

It wasn't racism why I moved, it was freedom of choice, choosing to live elsewhere, in a place I liked better, where there are people I could easily relate to and connect with, my fellow traditional Aussies. It was all about being with my own kind, because that's what I've always been used to

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 6^th, 2020 at 2:38am:

Super Nova wrote on Sep 5th, 2020 at 11:48pm: To answer the OP. I believe the goals of racism is to protect your own driven by fear of the unknown. I tried the "unknown" and it didn't suit me, I didn't fear it. I lived in the western suburbs of Sydney for decades and watched it become more and more multicultural multi-ethnic based over that time. I couldn't get used to it so I moved out of that area to where I could live among my own kind, traditional Aussies, which is what I'd been used to most of my life from the time I was born It was a simply matter of doing what was best for me. I'm better off for it, more peaceful, much more stable and content There was a life cycle I went through. I started out in a traditional Aussie town, and ended up back in a traditional Aussie town (a village to be more precise). It was like coming home again, and I wondered why I ever lived in the big city for so long, then again it was my parents who went there when I was a kid, I had no choice but to tag along It wasn't racism why I moved, it was freedom of choice, choosing to live elsewhere, in a place I liked better, where there are people I could easily relate to and connect with, my fellow traditional Aussies. It was all about being with my own kind, because that's what I've always been used to

Hi Bias,

I have done the same. I have moved to a suburb that is more like me and more aussie. I get it. Is it racist to be with your own and in a culture that is yours? I don't think so. But it is what we do. If we act out on the feelings against those that are different then we are racist.

Having the feeling in my opinion is not racist. Speaking out, acting in a bias way towards them, inciting others is what we need to avoid. Moving to be with your own is not.

I grew up with Wogs and I had a really good friend who was Chinese, a true blue in the end, they ran the local Chinese Restaurant (no surprise there)

All the kids become true blue so after a generation or 2 they were fully aussie IMO. Ok, sometime with a bit of wog in there but they were aussie.

They wante to assimilate. They wanted to be aussie.

The new crowd seem to want to subvert our culture with their own.

So I don't care if you are wogs, chinese or black. if you are one of us, you are an aussie.

If you want to remain different and try to change my society. Then I am against you.

So for me it is about culture and values, not colour of your skin or race.

Racism is fear of the different. It has no goals.

One of mankind’s baser instincts.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2020 at 5:33pm:

Racism is fear of the different. It has no goals. One of mankind’s baser instincts.

Nothing to do with fear. Are dark skinned people scared of caucasians?

EVERYTHING to do with fear, fear of the different.

Lee King wrote on Sep 6^th, 2020 at 5:44pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 5:33pm: Racism is fear of the different. It has no goals. One of mankind’s baser instincts. Nothing to do with fear. Are dark skinned people scared of caucasians?

We dominated the planet. Enslaved them historically. We built economic system that favour the white man. We historically diminished them to be a subhuman species. They fear our power, our wealth and our lifestyle.

While at an individual level, out on the streets they may not fear us. As an advanced society that we know how to fit in and work for our improved lifestyle that sometimes discriminates against some and the fact we have repressed them in the past, then yes I think they do.

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6^th, 2020 at 6:18pm:

EVERYTHING to do with fear, fear of the different.

It definitely is.
It started off as a prehistoric fear of different tribes (Bias's story is basically a modern day version of that)
But like most instincts from our cavemen past, we now have intellects that are able to override that subconscious fear

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Fear of the "other" drives racism in it's most simplistic form.  Fear of the "other" leads, eventually to genocide and the destruction of the "other".  We have seen that here, in Australia with the genocide of the Tasmanian Indigenous people.  There are no full blood Tasmanian Indigenous people left as a consequence.   Many seem to think that was a good idea and want to repeat it with their constant screams that Indigenous Australians are so much better off than they are.

We have also seen it overseas, with the Genocide of the Jews under the Nazis and other Fascist governments during WWII.   Thankfully that was stopped and the Nazis destroyed.  Their heinous beliefs, overturned.

Fear of the "other" drives racism.  It's possible, probable outcomes are so horrendous we must fight against it where ever it occurres.   As I have already posted, there are no races.  Genetically we are all near identical in our genetic makeups.  We can all interbreed and we should.   ::)

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 7^th, 2020 at 12:09pm:

Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 6:18pm: EVERYTHING to do with fear, fear of the different. It definitely is. It started off as a prehistoric fear of different tribes (Bias's story is basically a modern day version of that) But like most instincts from our cavemen past, we now have intellects that are able to override that subconscious fear

In my case it wasn't fear that I felt, It was apprehension of the future of the big cities after I'd researched multiculturalism and mixed race togetherness in a confined space such as the Sydney metropolitan area

Using my modern day intellect, I decided the big city was no longer the right place for me to live in. The conclusions from my comprehensive research, which included visiting rural towns and cities to compare with living in Sydney, were telling me that Sydney is now nothing more than a "Keynsian economic city" devoid of any real purpose other than tax collection by governments (and tax avoidance by small businesses), collection of fines, incoherent motorway systems, queues for social handouts, and incomprehensible English spoken through a multitude of strange foreign accents. And of course, there is a great reluctance of relevant Health authorities to enforce health laws in multi-ethnic suburbs, the condition of many take-away food shops is just disgusting, and they're being allowed to stay that way, why, I don't know

My move out of Sydney validated all my research, we now see Sydney with a virus which came from a foreign country, then to the Eastern suburbs where jet-setters live and then spread out to the western suburbs. I was already far enough away not to catch it or having to put up with all the restrictions

The high rate of crime is another reason people might want to get out of the big cities

But, others should do their own personal research, it will invariable have some differences to mine, it's just that mine told me what to do and I have no regrets doing what I did as a result of my research

There is one rural city I'd never live in though, that's the one with the Sicilian mafia that planned the assassination of Donald McKay, they were still active there until just recently, and probably still are

Bias_2012 wrote on Sep 7^th, 2020 at 5:31pm:

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 12:09pm: Jovial Monk wrote on Sep 6th, 2020 at 6:18pm: EVERYTHING to do with fear, fear of the different. It definitely is. It started off as a prehistoric fear of different tribes (Bias's story is basically a modern day version of that) But like most instincts from our cavemen past, we now have intellects that are able to override that subconscious fear In my case it wasn't fear that I felt, It was apprehension of the future of the big cities after I'd researched multiculturalism and mixed race togetherness in a confined space such as the Sydney metropolitan area Using my modern day intellect, I decided the big city was no longer the right place for me to live in. The conclusions from my comprehensive research, which included visiting rural towns and cities to compare with living in Sydney, were telling me that Sydney is now nothing more than a "Keynsian economic city" devoid of any real purpose other than tax collection by governments (and tax avoidance by small businesses), collection of fines, incoherent motorway systems, queues for social handouts, and incomprehensible English spoken through a multitude of strange foreign accents. And of course, there is a great reluctance of relevant Health authorities to enforce health laws in multi-ethnic suburbs, the condition of many take-away food shops is just disgusting, and they're being allowed to stay that way, why, I don't know My move out of Sydney validated all my research, we now see Sydney with a virus which came from a foreign country, then to the Eastern suburbs where jet-setters live and then spread out to the western suburbs. I was already far enough away not to catch it or having to put up with all the restrictions The high rate of crime is another reason people might want to get out of the big cities But, others should do their own personal research, it will invariable have some differences to mine, it's just that mine told me what to do and I have no regrets doing what I did as a result of my research There is one rural city I'd never live in though, that's the one with the Sicilian mafia that planned the assassination of Donald McKay, they were still active there until just recently, and probably still are

Hey I know that town. I grew up near there, very near.

It was a town of wogs vs skips.

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7^th, 2020 at 2:28pm:

Fear of the "other" drives racism in it's most simplistic form.  Fear of the "other" leads, eventually to genocide and the destruction of the "other".  We have seen that here, in Australia with the genocide of the Tasmanian Indigenous people.  There are no full blood Tasmanian Indigenous people left as a consequence.   Many seem to think that was a good idea and want to repeat it with their constant screams that Indigenous Australians are so much better off than they are. We have also seen it overseas, with the Genocide of the Jews under the Nazis and other Fascist governments during WWII.   Thankfully that was stopped and the Nazis destroyed.  Their heinous beliefs, overturned. Fear of the "other" drives racism.  It's possible, probable outcomes are so horrendous we must fight against it where ever it occurres.   As I have already posted, there are no races.  Genetically we are all near identical in our genetic makeups.  We can all interbreed and we should.   ::)

Cultures don't interbreed and you are against cultural interbreeding, a.k.a. assimilation, anyway.


"We now live in a post-truth society. One of the fascinating aspects of our dystopia is the way in which a very stupid lie — such as ‘white people created racism’ — becomes a truth, and a truth which in the end becomes unassailable. In order for the claims of victimhood to have proper purchase, it is an article of faith for the monstrously woke, along with easily disprovable canards such as ‘colonialism is the cause of Africa’s poverty’ and ‘white people who don’t think they’re racist are even more racist because of their denial’ and so on.

The problem is that these palpable idiocies become ‘fact’. So, for example, if you look up the topic of racism on Wikipedia, it will tell you in the introduction: ‘Racism is a relatively modern concept, arising in the European age of imperialism, the subsequent growth of capitalism, and especially the Atlantic slave trade, of which it was a major driving force.’ That neatly accords with Ms Jolly’s assessment and chucks in a good dig at capitalism as well.

Sadly, I didn’t have the time to look up ‘evil’ on Wikipedia. My guess is that it will say: ‘Evil was invented by the white, male, capitalist Manchester businessman Josiah Wright in late March 1792, just before teatime. Before then it did not exist.’ There are probably similar entries for ‘filth’, ‘ordure’, ‘nastiness’, ‘hatred’ and ‘venality’. All of them invented by the white man and imposed upon a previously happy planet.

This is not so far-fetched as you might think — indeed it is vital to the supporters of the post-truth society to insist that all bad stuff started with white men and that the world existed in a prelapsarian state of decency, civility, fraternity and equality until we came along and wrecked everything. This bizarre notion both underpins the concept of white privilege and implies the absolute necessity of cringing white guilt.

However, if you look up a range of other topics on Wikipedia, you will find very different answers. This is another important facet of the post-truth society: the ability to hold two contradictory facts in one’s head at the same time and believe them both to be true. So, for example, if you check out ‘racism in Africa’ you will find historic reports of racism dating back centuries, including the persecution of pygmies by the dominant Bantu people in the Congo, the persecution of black sub-Saharan Africans in Mauritania, the bedevilled status of Nubians in both Kenya and Sudan, and much more.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/how-a-lie-becomes-truth


Incidentally, in a World Values Survey in 2013, the UK was ranked among the least racist countries in the world, alongside Australia.

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Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2020 at 6:38pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Fear of the "other" drives racism in it's most simplistic form.  Fear of the "other" leads, eventually to genocide and the destruction of the "other".  We have seen that here, in Australia with the genocide of the Tasmanian Indigenous people.  There are no full blood Tasmanian Indigenous people left as a consequence.   Many seem to think that was a good idea and want to repeat it with their constant screams that Indigenous Australians are so much better off than they are. We have also seen it overseas, with the Genocide of the Jews under the Nazis and other Fascist governments during WWII.   Thankfully that was stopped and the Nazis destroyed.  Their heinous beliefs, overturned. Fear of the "other" drives racism.  It's possible, probable outcomes are so horrendous we must fight against it where ever it occurres.   As I have already posted, there are no races.  Genetically we are all near identical in our genetic makeups.  We can all interbreed and we should.   ::) Cultures don't interbreed and you are against cultural interbreeding, a.k.a. assimilation, anyway.

Really, Soren?  Would you care to quote me where I have typed that?  Here, here is a space for you to do so:

Quote:

You will of course provide a link to the statement as well, just to make sure it is kosher...  ::) ::)

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7^th, 2020 at 9:51pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 6:38pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Fear of the "other" drives racism in it's most simplistic form.  Fear of the "other" leads, eventually to genocide and the destruction of the "other".  We have seen that here, in Australia with the genocide of the Tasmanian Indigenous people.  There are no full blood Tasmanian Indigenous people left as a consequence.   Many seem to think that was a good idea and want to repeat it with their constant screams that Indigenous Australians are so much better off than they are. We have also seen it overseas, with the Genocide of the Jews under the Nazis and other Fascist governments during WWII.   Thankfully that was stopped and the Nazis destroyed.  Their heinous beliefs, overturned. Fear of the "other" drives racism.  It's possible, probable outcomes are so horrendous we must fight against it where ever it occurres.   As I have already posted, there are no races.  Genetically we are all near identical in our genetic makeups.  We can all interbreed and we should.   ::) Cultures don't interbreed and you are against cultural interbreeding, a.k.a. assimilation, anyway. Really, Soren?  Would you care to quote me where I have typed that?  Here, here is a space for you to do so: Quote: You will of course provide a link to the statement as well, just to make sure it is kosher...  ::) ::)

So you ARE for assimilation!
Good. Sorry to have misunderstood you. I was under the impression that you were for multiculturalism = cultural separatism, the maintenance of mutually exclusive cultures.

There is only one goal of racism and that is to serve to bolster a superiority complex in the individual so ignorant as to be afflicted.

mothra wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 9:26am:

There is only one goal of racism and that is to serve to bolster a superiority complex in the individual so ignorant as to be afflicted.

Racism in Africa is multi-faceted and dates back several centuries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa



Racism in Asia has roots in events that have happened from thousands of years ago to the present.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Asia

Frank wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 10:14am:

mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 9:26am: There is only one goal of racism and that is to serve to bolster a superiority complex in the individual so ignorant as to be afflicted. Racism in Africa is multi-faceted and dates back several centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa Racism in Asia has roots in events that have happened from thousands of years ago to the present. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Asia

Yes.

Your point?

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 10:15am:

Frank wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 10:14am: mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 9:26am: There is only one goal of racism and that is to serve to bolster a superiority complex in the individual so ignorant as to be afflicted. Racism in Africa is multi-faceted and dates back several centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa Racism in Asia has roots in events that have happened from thousands of years ago to the present. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Asia Yes. Your point?

http://www.ozpolitic.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1598962726/32#32

Frank wrote on Sep 7^th, 2020 at 10:02pm:

Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 9:51pm: Frank wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 6:38pm: Brian Ross wrote on Sep 7th, 2020 at 2:28pm: Fear of the "other" drives racism in it's most simplistic form.  Fear of the "other" leads, eventually to genocide and the destruction of the "other".  We have seen that here, in Australia with the genocide of the Tasmanian Indigenous people.  There are no full blood Tasmanian Indigenous people left as a consequence.   Many seem to think that was a good idea and want to repeat it with their constant screams that Indigenous Australians are so much better off than they are. We have also seen it overseas, with the Genocide of the Jews under the Nazis and other Fascist governments during WWII.   Thankfully that was stopped and the Nazis destroyed.  Their heinous beliefs, overturned. Fear of the "other" drives racism.  It's possible, probable outcomes are so horrendous we must fight against it where ever it occurres.   As I have already posted, there are no races.  Genetically we are all near identical in our genetic makeups.  We can all interbreed and we should.   ::) Cultures don't interbreed and you are against cultural interbreeding, a.k.a. assimilation, anyway. Really, Soren?  Would you care to quote me where I have typed that?  Here, here is a space for you to do so: Quote: You will of course provide a link to the statement as well, just to make sure it is kosher...  ::) ::) So you ARE for assimilation! Good. Sorry to have misunderstood you. I was under the impression that you were for multiculturalism = cultural separatism, the maintenance of mutually exclusive cultures.

Those are your definitions, Soren, not mine.  Stop erecting strawman arguments, please.  They are silly and betray your thinking far more than mine.  Tsk, tsk.   ::) ::)

Frank wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 10:14am:

mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 9:26am: There is only one goal of racism and that is to serve to bolster a superiority complex in the individual so ignorant as to be afflicted. Racism in Africa is multi-faceted and dates back several centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa Racism in Asia has roots in events that have happened from thousands of years ago to the present. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Asia

The stupidity of the racist is right on show here.
Apparantly because some Asians and some Africans are racist, this justifies being racist against ALL Asians and Africans.
Racism is objected to no matter who displays it, whether they are Asian, African, European or American

The_Barnacle wrote on Sep 8^th, 2020 at 4:11pm:

Frank wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 10:14am: mothra wrote on Sep 8th, 2020 at 9:26am: There is only one goal of racism and that is to serve to bolster a superiority complex in the individual so ignorant as to be afflicted. Racism in Africa is multi-faceted and dates back several centuries. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Africa Racism in Asia has roots in events that have happened from thousands of years ago to the present. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_Asia The stupidity of the racist is right on show here. Apparantly because some Asians and some Africans are racist, this justifies being racist against ALL Asians and Africans. Racism is objected to no matter who displays it, whether they are Asian, African, European or American

All Lives Matter is correct, then?

Yellow Hans want to dominate Asia.
Black Bantu want to dominate Africa.
2/3rds of Europe's population is Blue Brunette.