Trump said coronavirus "affects virtually nobody".

Meanwhile, in the US:

6,890,000 cases

205,000 deaths (including his own brother)

https://dynaimage.cdn.cnn.com/cnn/c_fill,g_auto,w_1200,h_675,ar_16:9/https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.cnn.com%2Fcnnnext%2Fdam%2Fassets%2F160115151441-donald-trump-shrug.jpg

Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths.

Well done, Trump.

You really do need to get over your fixation with Trump.

Do you genuflect toward your bust of him every night still???

Alan Jones says:

He said politicians have “thrived on fear” and that is why they have never once said
99 per cent of cases are mild.



https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193370388001

when is someone going to look at INDIA... do we blame trump for that as well... :-/

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:20am:

Alan Jones says: He said politicians have “thrived on fear” and that is why they have never once said 99 per cent of cases are mild. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193370388001

Can't stand Alan Jones!  Another old bloke who should have retired years ago!

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:42am:

Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:20am: Alan Jones says: He said politicians have “thrived on fear” and that is why they have never once said 99 per cent of cases are mild. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193370388001 Can't stand Alan Jones!  Another old bloke who should have retired years ago!

the thing is nef  people like Jones and Bolt   they have contacts  and I mean serious contacts.....so they do know a little more than the rest of us.....even is it is a little one sided.... :) :)

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:44am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:42am: Bobby. wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:20am: Alan Jones says: He said politicians have “thrived on fear” and that is why they have never once said 99 per cent of cases are mild. https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6193370388001 Can't stand Alan Jones!  Another old bloke who should have retired years ago! the thing is nef  people like Jones and Bolt   they have contacts  and I mean serious contacts.....so they do know a little more than the rest of us.....even is it is a little one sided.... :) :)

Probably so, but I could never stand Alan Jones and now find that Bolt is beginning to droan on and on and on.  I've given up on watching Sky News in the evening and have it on "mute" during the day, after I have seen what the News is for the day.  I don't want to smash my TV with something I throw at it.  ;)

I refuse to watch Your ABC News or anything on that channel.  ;D

give SBS a try   they have more international news I find..

the news is so gloom and doom     it gets me down sometimes... its the same here...all negatives  yet here we are all with a roof over our heads.cars in garages

more than one TV set and computer..food to waste...we really go without nothing! yet its not good enough ..

when we get through this it will become a distant memory for most of us.....but only if we allow it to..... and god help us if we dont learn from it...

I can see a lot of people thinking they all of us can go back to living how its was.....I dont think>

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:34am:

when is someone going to look at INDIA...

When it becomes as bad as the US, I guess.

The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world.

He lied and did nothing, and as a result his own brother and more than 200,000 other Americans are dead.

He has so much blood on his tiny little hands.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:09am:

cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:34am: when is someone going to look at INDIA... When it becomes as bad as the US, I guess. The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world. He lied and did nothing, and as a result his own brother and more than 200,000 other Americans are dead. He has so much blood on his tiny little hands.

the US is the same as here mate...

its the States that are running this show   not the bossman..

put the bloody blame where it belongs..for a change..you paranoia is showing..

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:26am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:09am: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:34am: when is someone going to look at INDIA... When it becomes as bad as the US, I guess. The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world. He lied and did nothing, and as a result his own brother and more than 200,000 other Americans are dead. He has so much blood on his tiny little hands. the US is the same as here mate... its the States that are running this show   not the bossman.. put the bloody blame where it belongs..for a change..you paranoia is showing..

Ah, no.

The US is not the same as here.

The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world.

We are one of the least affected.

The blame for the United States' terrible handling of the COVID pandemic lies completely with Trump.

His apathy, lies, inaction and incompetence has resulted in the deaths of over 200,000 Americans.

There is nobody else to blame but Trump.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:35am:

cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:26am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:09am: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:34am: when is someone going to look at INDIA... When it becomes as bad as the US, I guess. The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world. He lied and did nothing, and as a result his own brother and more than 200,000 other Americans are dead. He has so much blood on his tiny little hands. the US is the same as here mate... its the States that are running this show   not the bossman.. put the bloody blame where it belongs..for a change..you paranoia is showing.. Ah, no. The US is not the same as here. The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world. We are one of the least affected. The blame for the United States' terrible handling of the COVID pandemic lies completely with Trump. His apathy, lies, inaction and incompetence has resulted in the deaths of over 200,000 Americans. There is nobody else to blame but Trump.

have you checked  VICTORIA  stats.. lately??....


seriously you are paranoid greg   its time to see someone....this blame game doesnt make sense   you blame trump for everything thats bad... yet other countries   you ignore..

you need help mate..

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:38am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:35am: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:26am: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:09am: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 7:34am: when is someone going to look at INDIA... When it becomes as bad as the US, I guess. The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world. He lied and did nothing, and as a result his own brother and more than 200,000 other Americans are dead. He has so much blood on his tiny little hands. the US is the same as here mate... its the States that are running this show   not the bossman.. put the bloody blame where it belongs..for a change..you paranoia is showing.. Ah, no. The US is not the same as here. The United States - under Trump - is the worst COVID affected country in the world. We are one of the least affected. The blame for the United States' terrible handling of the COVID pandemic lies completely with Trump. His apathy, lies, inaction and incompetence has resulted in the deaths of over 200,000 Americans. There is nobody else to blame but Trump. have you checked  VICTORIA  stats.. lately??.... seriously you are paranoid greg   its time to see someone....this blame game doesnt make sense   you blame trump for everything thats bad... yet other countries   you ignore.. you need help mate..

Concentrate, cods.

The US is the worst affected country in the world.

No other country has performed as badly as the US.

None.

Trump failed.

https://occupydemocrats.com/wp-content/uploads/EUc1RU9XQAE9RTD.jpeg

you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. AND HEALTH IS MANAGED BY EACH STATE......



yet you refuse to acknowledge that small detail...

I agree he has said some stoopid things....rather than cause PANIC....I get that   but you sheet all the blame to him  which show you need help sunshine.

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:55am:

you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. AND HEALTH IS MANAGED BY EACH STATE...... yet you refuse to acknowledge that small detail... I agree he has said some stoopid things....rather than cause PANIC....I get that   but you sheet all the blame to him  which show you need help sunshine.

A real leader knows how to handle a crisis without creating panic.

That's actually Trump's job, and he failed miserably at it.

There weren't just two options: 1) create panic, 2) do nothing and lie.

There was a third option: 3) act like a leader, take control, inform & reassure the public with the truth without causing hysteria. What most other world leaders did.

He chose option 2.

He downplayed the virus at the beginning and then, when it became obvious just how bad it was getting, he openly encouraged people to gather in large crowds, ignore social distancing rules, and to not wear a mask.

He is 100% to blame for the position America is now in.

He and he alone is responsible for his brother's death, and the deaths of more than 200,000 more Americans.

If he's re-elected in November, he'll probably go on to kill at least two or three million innocent people.

MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;)

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am:

MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;)

PILE UP THE BODIES.  It's what righties do   :'(

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:32am:

MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;)

what goose he is....he makes it up.....so he can keeep sulking.. and spitting his dummy   who does that remind me of..I wouldnt care if he lived there...

but its all they have got isnt   they are not in charge of anywhere thats of note.....and looking at Sth America... ::) ::) ::)..pity he doesnt spend some time down there pointing his finger at the leaders...mostly CORRUPT.

Russia and China are making inroads where it wont be long before they are draining Venezuela of all its oil..

and have their ships tied up in Sth American  ports...but lets slag off  Trump......much more important.. ::) ::)

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 8:55am:

you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION..

Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am:

cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:55am: you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths.

  yes its those bad Govenors..

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:00am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 9:32am: MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;) what goose he is....he makes it up.....

No.

America is the worst affected country in the world.

More than 200,000 Americans have died from COVID.

Trump did downplay the virus.

He did encourage people to gather in crowds, avoid social distancing rules, and to not wear masks.

He did lie to the public about the virus.

He did fail as leader.

Nothing made up, dear.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:04am:

cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:00am: Neferti wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 9:32am: MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;) what goose he is....he makes it up..... No. America is the worst affected country in the world. More than 200,000 Americans have died from COVID. Trump did downplay the virus. He did encourage people to gather in crowds, avoid social distancing rules, and to not wear masks. He did lie to the public about the virus. He did fail as leader. Nothing made up, dear.

I saw your mate, Biden state that 200 MILLION Americans had died of CoVid19.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

OK you have driven me out of this thread..I guess your happy now....your constant bleating and repeating gets us nowhere  its all yours pet.going round in circles isnt for me.

Neferti wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:06am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:04am: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:00am: Neferti wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 9:32am: MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;) what goose he is....he makes it up..... No. America is the worst affected country in the world. More than 200,000 Americans have died from COVID. Trump did downplay the virus. He did encourage people to gather in crowds, avoid social distancing rules, and to not wear masks. He did lie to the public about the virus. He did fail as leader. Nothing made up, dear. I saw your mate, Biden state that 200 MILLION Americans had died of CoVid19.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

yeah I saw that nef  I didnt see a correction either...


;D ;D ;D ;D

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:02am:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:00am: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 8:55am: you are one sicko due... they also have a HUGE POPLUATION.. Only 4% of the world's population, yet the US has 22% of all COVID deaths.   yes its those bad Govenors..

Nothing to do with them.

Trump lied to the American people, not the Governors.

Trump downplayed the virus, not the Governors.

Trump told people not to wear masks, not the Governors.

Trump encouraged people to gather in large crowds, not the Governors.

Trump told people to inject themselves with bleach, not the Governors.

Trump said that there were only 15 cases and that it would soon be zero, not the Governors.

Trump said that the virus would miraculously disappear in April, not the Governors.

Trump said that it affects virtually nobody, not the Governors.

Trump seems to be tripping over himself to find the right narative.

He knows he stuffed it up at the beginning by trivialising it and insisting it would all be over soon.

Now he knows that it is not trivial, and has devastated real communities - not least of all key parts of his own base.

So he somehow has to find a way of saying "yeah ok its bad - but my dismissive attitude at the beginning still wasn't wrong".

So we get the confused language we are hearing now:
- some people really are badly affected
- it has had a real impact on communities
- still, it only affects the very old and people with pre-existing conditions
- therefore, it affects "virtually nobody"

in short, a bizarre combination of "its bad and we need to take it seriously - but we can still trivialise it by focusing on how many people will actually be hit (directly) by the virus"

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 9:40am:

Neferti wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 9:32am: MAINTAIN THE RAGE. it's what lefties do.  ;) PILE UP THE BODIES.  It's what righties do   :'(

Nah!  I remember the ALP having a Mass Debate way back.  ;D ;D ;D

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:24am:

Trump seems to be tripping over himself to find the right narative. He knows he stuffed it up at the beginning by trivialising it and insisting it would all be over soon. Now he knows that it is not trivial, and has devastated real communities - not least of all key parts of his own base. So he somehow has to find a way of saying "yeah ok its bad - but my dismissive attitude at the beginning still wasn't wrong". So we get the confused language we are hearing now: - some people really are badly affected - it has had a real impact on communities - still, it only affects the very old and people with pre-existing conditions - therefore, it affects "virtually nobody" in short, a bizarre combination of "its bad and we need to take it seriously - but we can still trivialise it by focusing on how many people will actually be hit (directly) by the virus"

Yep.

He's really struggling.

His "speeches" are getting more and more bizarre.

Not only is he struggling to find a narrative, but he's also fumbling over very basic words - even his own name.

There's no doubt in my mind that he did indeed suffer a series of mini-strokes back when he was unexpectedly rushed to hospital last year (?).

His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had.
Plenty of articles stating it. No articles state anything remotely close to death from covid.
Don't see why you have to keep lying about it.  ;D

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:46am:

His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had. Plenty of articles stating it.

Nope.  Incorrect.

The articles say he died after he had a fall and bleeding on the brain.

They don't, however, say the fall or the bleeding was the cause of his death.

Elvis died after taking a dump, but his cause of death wasn't defecation.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:59am:

Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:46am: His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had. Plenty of articles stating it. Nope.  Incorrect. The articles say he died after he had a fall and bleeding on the brain. They don't, however, say the fall or the bleeding was the cause of his death. Elvis died after taking a dump, but his cause of death wasn't defecation.

its good to know he died AFTER the fall and not before...that would have been awkward.

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 12:00pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:59am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:46am: His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had. Plenty of articles stating it. Nope.  Incorrect. The articles say he died after he had a fall and bleeding on the brain. They don't, however, say the fall or the bleeding was the cause of his death. Elvis died after taking a dump, but his cause of death wasn't defecation. its good to know he died AFTER the fall and not before...that would have been awkward.

Indeed.

The point is, however, that nobody is saying that the fall or the bleeding on the brain actually caused his death.

Don't you think it's interesting that there is no official cause of death, and that Mr. Trump could only manage to spare ten minutes for his brother's funeral?

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 7:34am:

when is someone going to look at INDIA... do we blame trump for that as well... :-/

go for it ... you can quote the indian PM and tell us whats happening .

polite_gandalf wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 10:24am:

Trump seems to be tripping over himself to find the right narative. He knows he stuffed it up at the beginning by trivialising it and insisting it would all be over soon. Now he knows that it is not trivial, and has devastated real communities - not least of all key parts of his own base. So he somehow has to find a way of saying "yeah ok its bad - but my dismissive attitude at the beginning still wasn't wrong". So we get the confused language we are hearing now: - some people really are badly affected - it has had a real impact on communities - still, it only affects the very old and people with pre-existing conditions - therefore, it affects "virtually nobody" in short, a bizarre combination of "its bad and we need to take it seriously - but we can still trivialise it by focusing on how many people will actually be hit (directly) by the virus"

trump will flip and flop depending on what poll he's just read.

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 12:41pm:

cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 12:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:59am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:46am: His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had. Plenty of articles stating it. Nope.  Incorrect. The articles say he died after he had a fall and bleeding on the brain. They don't, however, say the fall or the bleeding was the cause of his death. Elvis died after taking a dump, but his cause of death wasn't defecation. its good to know he died AFTER the fall and not before...that would have been awkward. Indeed. The point is, however, that nobody is saying that the fall or the bleeding on the brain actually caused his death. Don't you think it's interesting that there is no official cause of death, and that Mr. Trump could only manage to spare ten minutes for his brother's funeral?

have you seen his death cert? greg  I do hope thats what your quoting...after all not everyone wants the death details in the arket place do they?

cods wrote on Sep 23^rd, 2020 at 6:09pm:

greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 12:41pm: cods wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 12:00pm: greggerypeccary wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:59am: Captain Caveman wrote on Sep 23rd, 2020 at 10:46am: His brother died from bleeding on the brain as a result from a fall he had. Plenty of articles stating it. Nope.  Incorrect. The articles say he died after he had a fall and bleeding on the brain. They don't, however, say the fall or the bleeding was the cause of his death. Elvis died after taking a dump, but his cause of death wasn't defecation. its good to know he died AFTER the fall and not before...that would have been awkward. Indeed. The point is, however, that nobody is saying that the fall or the bleeding on the brain actually caused his death. Don't you think it's interesting that there is no official cause of death, and that Mr. Trump could only manage to spare ten minutes for his brother's funeral? have you seen his death cert? greg  I do hope thats what your quoting...after all not everyone wants the death details in the arket place do they?

Quoting?

What are you talking about?

I said there is no official cause of death.

If you can find an official cause of death, I'll shout you a trip to Tasmania.